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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.08.14 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 14/08/2010 12:50:47 Try and reason with them, this is a mail from an esteemed colleague and pvp god
Food for Thought From: Enn DeeKay Sent: 2010.08.13 23:57 To: HELM Alliance,
HELM = Help Every Loyal Member
What do you think it means when we find we have a disloyal member or members?
Thieves, spies, traitors, trouble-makers, disruptors, leadership challengers and underminers (of who we are and what we stand for), agents provocateur and saboteur - we simply have no tolerance for such people.
When our loyal membership is put in a bad position by the disloyal our determination and implacability hardens.
The mechanisms of HELM Justice start their slow turn, the heavy cogs of weighty matters begin the reluctant process that results in the dark side of the force that is HELM coming to the fore, The bright side of HELM flares with indignation and ignites the passion for the justice that is available to us.
The whole come together in a ruthless combination to protect what we have built and are achieving.
We'll protect the good citizens of New Eden with the knowledge of what we've discovered and experienced at the hands of the treacherous.
We'll hunt constantly and consistently. The losses of the Disloyal will mount; the New Eden corporations open to the Disloyal will shrink.
Decency is what we strive for in our community. So when you seek to tarnish that in any way we turn our backs the better to protect the Disloyal from our disgust at their actions and behavior which spit on our gratitude and generosity of spirit, dragging it to a place we'd rather rise from as a group.
For those who read this and rush to the mistaken judgment of "censorship, control" and "an inability to criticize or speak freely of your good intentions to improve our alliance" you are mistaken. There is no censorship in HELM. Speak your mind with respect and dignity for who we all are and refrain from personal attack, injury or insult. Debate the idea with sound reasoning, and if you have a "bone to pick" with me or anybody take it private to sort it out. You will receive a fair hearing, and when what you offer has value, it will be put in place.
At this moment of writing some of the most influential people no-longer-with-us are those who presented great ideas badly. The ideas were done great justice, given the value and import it deserved and these are now part of the fabric and operation of the HELM alliance. Sadly some of those who first voiced those ideas are not, but in the end it was their choice to make a bad presentation.
To the Loyal, fear not, for we are fair. We do not sink to the level of the Disloyal, though we will show them that we are perfectly capable of ruthless action that for their temporary fizzle in the dark costs them dear in the long term. We are reluctant to take action against former friends, but when we know the extent of their perfidy, well we will not shirk from our duty to our community.
There is only one recourse for those who create for themselves the bill of Disloyal. Total honesty with the leaders of the HELM, and reparations for any damage or loss of confidence and that doesn't necessarily mean in simple currency. The recovery of a damaged character is a long row to hoe and there are few with the integrity and fortitude that are capable of that effort. Those that do are in the end elevated to a level few imagine possible.
So, if you're one of those who pretends to be a friend while working internally to undermine us; think carefully before you continue. Cease, or be honest and we'll help you to abandon that path of treachery you find yourself treading.
Only the honest and true can survive with us.
Sometimes you have to flush.
The HELM has horns for a reason.
tdlr: Talk to spies and help these damaged people rebuild their standing within the alliance.
Also the horns that he speaks of? well they are 'War Protocols' and they involve staying docked or risk being fined.
hi Norman
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:10:00 -
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I'm glad you like to listen to yourself talk. That means there's one person who does.
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seany1212
Stylo Corporation
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: seany1212 on 14/08/2010 14:14:34
Originally by: Tryce Jaor Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 14/08/2010 12:50:47 Try and reason with them, this is a mail from an esteemed colleague and pvp god
I stopped reading after i saw this sentence and looked up this http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Enn+DeeKay
you need a new god.
You guys make squeeky noises when you pop, and that's enough motivation as far as I'm concerned. |
RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:18:00 -
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:36:00 -
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I think that if you have a problem with space, being a pod pilot probably isn't the smartest of career moves ---
☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻ |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:38:00 -
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For 250M isk I can fix all of your spy problems.
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
Ohh Yeah
The Compass Reloaded HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.14 15:25:00 -
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Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
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Clyde Shelton
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Posted - 2010.08.14 16:50:00 -
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I'm gonna pull the whole thing down. I'm gonna bring the whole fuckin' diseased, corrupt temple down on your head. It's gonna be biblical.
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whispous
Gallente NibbleTek RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.08.14 16:51:00 -
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OH WOW
HE'S IN THE TOP 200,000 players :o
All bow to Enn DeeKay
PVP GOD
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.08.14 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 14/08/2010 17:12:25
i found a publicly available pic, on a public internet page of the PVP GOD!
http://tinyurl.com/34xult3
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Creepy Goat
Collateral. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.14 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ohh Yeah Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
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Eno Lacigol
Amarr DAEDALUS X Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.14 17:47:00 -
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Need help with your Spy problems?
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Clyde Shelton
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Posted - 2010.08.14 19:04:00 -
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This... Tetrodotoxin. Should be nicely into your system by now. Isolated from the liver of a Caribbean Puffer Fish. So, it paralyzes you... and leaves all the other neurological functions perfectly intact. In other words, you can't move... but you feel everything. It does absolutely nothing to blunt the pain... and you're about to experience more of that, than you could ever fucking imagine.
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Hemasteroids
Can't let you do that Star Fox
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Posted - 2010.08.14 19:13:00 -
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HELM Alliance sounds awesome. Can I join?
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Spruillo
Gallente Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.14 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Spruillo on 14/08/2010 19:59:57 I'm a pvp god too, soon as I finish production efficiency V anyway. fear and respect me in advance k? Cause I'll fly up and shoot the hell out some fools just for lookin at me wrong and Im not jokin.
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talaxian
Binary Star Navy Binary Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:35:00 -
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To be or not to beû that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles And, by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep No more û and by a sleep to say we end The heartache and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to û ætis a consummation Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause. There's the respect That makes calamity of so long life. For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, ThÆ oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely, The pangs of disprized love, the law's delay, The insolence of office, and the spurns That patient merit of thÆ unworthy takes, When he himself might his quietus make With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscovered country from whose bourn No traveller returns, puzzles the will And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience does make cowards of us all, And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, And enterprises of great pitch and moment With this regard their currents turn awry, And lose the name of action.ùSoft you now! The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons Be all my sins remembered
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Lexa HeIIfury
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:41:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208875
P.S - Enn, I am now a shareholder in your prestigious organization. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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talaxian
Binary Star Navy Binary Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:00:00 -
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There's an old saying, Fortune favors the bold. Well, I guess we're about to find out
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.15 01:37:00 -
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all we can say with any certainty is LOLHELM
thank you and good night sweet prince
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talaxian
Binary Star Navy Binary Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.15 11:53:00 -
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Is this a dagger which I see before me, The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee. I have thee not, and yet I see thee still. Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible To feeling as to sight? or art thou but A dagger of the mind, a false creation, Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain? I see thee yet, in form as palpable As this which now I draw. Thou marshall'st me the way that I was going; And such an instrument I was to use. Mine eyes are made the fools o' the other senses, Or else worth all the rest; I see thee still, And on thy blade and dudgeon gouts of blood, Which was not so before. There's no such thing: It is the bloody business which informs Thus to mine eyes. Now o'er the one halfworld Nature seems dead, and wicked dreams abuse The curtain'd sleep; witchcraft celebrates Pale Hecate's offerings, and wither'd murder, Alarum'd by his sentinel, the wolf, Whose howl's his watch, thus with his stealthy pace. With Tarquin's ravishing strides, towards his design Moves like a ghost. Thou sure and firm-set earth, Hear not my steps, which way they walk, for fear Thy very stones prate of my whereabout, And take the present horror from the time, Which now suits with it. Whiles I threat, he lives: Words to the heat of deeds too cold breath gives.
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.15 12:00:00 -
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lettuce be honest, HELM is frightened. Why else would they hide in Eldulf, too afraid to go back to normal hisec.
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Nora Rage
Golden Clover Astrogeologists
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Posted - 2010.08.15 12:11:00 -
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http://www.allforart.com/galore/galore/alliance.html
My favourite part of the internet. All Enn Deekays work. |
Unidentified Character
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Clyde Shelton
This... Tetrodotoxin. Should be nicely into your system by now. Isolated from the liver of a Caribbean Puffer Fish. So, it paralyzes you... and leaves all the other neurological functions perfectly intact. In other words, you can't move... but you feel everything. It does absolutely nothing to blunt the pain... and you're about to experience more of that, than you could ever fucking imagine.
No one got this?
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Misanth
Reaper Industries Asset Liberation Front.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:33:00 -
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Why are you making fun of the PvP GOD? Maybe now he'll come after you. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Unidentified Character
Originally by: Clyde Shelton
This... Tetrodotoxin. Should be nicely into your system by now. Isolated from the liver of a Caribbean Puffer Fish. So, it paralyzes you... and leaves all the other neurological functions perfectly intact. In other words, you can't move... but you feel everything. It does absolutely nothing to blunt the pain... and you're about to experience more of that, than you could ever fucking imagine.
No one got this?
From "Law Abiding Citizen" right?
As for the OP... I stopped reading at 'Underminers'.... Not because of your monster post, but because I was thinking about how I could become one of your 'Undermines', sounds like a great career choice for my next direction in Eve...
Jint Hikaru, Underminer!
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Misanth
Reaper Industries Asset Liberation Front.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jint Hikaru As for the OP... I stopped reading at 'Underminers'.... Not because of your monster post, but because I was thinking about how I could become one of your 'Undermines', sounds like a great career choice for my next direction in Eve...
Jint Hikaru, Underminer!
Sounds.. gay. And as much as I like boys, this sounds nasty even for someone like me. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:53:00 -
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its threads like these that make C&P so much fun to visit.
careful guys, he popped an incursus today. that could've been you! ♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:42:00 -
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Kill the spy first, then fix your buildings.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:45:00 -
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So can someone TL;DR the first post? Clearly I haven't read it yet.. Is he asking for someone to fix his spy problem? I have a umm, little background knowledge on spying and I'm getting pretty good at picking other spys..
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.17 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin So can someone TL;DR the first post? Clearly I haven't read it yet.. Is he asking for someone to fix his spy problem? I have a umm, little background knowledge on spying and I'm getting pretty good at picking other spys..
allow me to make it short and sweet.
HELM is at war with Tryce Jaor's corporation, Hirogen Raiders, and Enn Deekay is as most of you know a bit of a muppet in virtually every respect. One aspect of him that causes the most mirth is his long, rambling evemails and this is a prime example of one. That's about it
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.08.17 18:50:00 -
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Any corp or alliance that tries to fine you for undocking during a war isn't worth being in.
Yes, there are good ways to handle a war, yes, travel in packs, etc. But any corp or alliance that tries to control how you play that much, to the point of imposing fines, is not worth the trouble.
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Xenuria
Gallente The Sanatarium
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Posted - 2010.08.17 19:00:00 -
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If you want help with understanding spies and how they work then I can help you.
However if you are trying to say that you have a spy problem then I can point you in the right direction.
Most of the spies in eve are not very sophisticated at all and keep all of their recon inside the boundaries of the eve world. Some people, myself for example see the eve game world as only one point of entry to valuable information regaurding a corporation or specific target.
Most corps and alliances use a VOIP (voice over IP) client like ventrilo or T3. Some still prefer text based clients like irc or mibbit.
The infiltration of these non-eve environments and the subsequent grooming of the individuals that frequent them is often more sophisticated then the meta-games in eve.
If somebody is suspicious then ask them about themselves and check the information they give you over the course of 2 weeks. In most cases the info is bogus and a quick background check will prove that.
however more sophisticated spies already have hundreds of pre-configured identities that can trace to actual legitimate people and thus makes the spy more illusive.
I am not going to go into any specifics here but if you mail me ingame I will explain things to you.
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Surgicalshot
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Posted - 2010.08.18 04:34:00 -
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"allow me to make it short and sweet.
HELM is at war with Tryce Jaor's corporation, Hirogen Raiders, and Enn Deekay is as most of you know a bit of a muppet in virtually every respect. One aspect of him that causes the most mirth is his long, rambling evemails and this is a prime example of one. That's about it"
I somewhat have to agree, i just left the corp and the HELM alliance today. Now, i have to say the HELM alliance is pretty cool, a good group of guys. However, enn deekay in my opinion is not the best leader, he's a nice guy but he has MAJOR ego issues. He's good at flyin fleet's around however his strategic/diplo skills are horribad. first off, this hirogen war or w/e was NOT with the HELM alliance, it was with ENN, if it wasnt for him it wouldnt have even happened, the same applies to previous wars. If you look at post from a couple years's ago to recent ones and post of his enemies you will see that clear as day. because of ENN, the corp takes the burden. 2nd, why the hell did we move to eld, this was the plan, move to eldoff or w/e the f it's called ( crap peice of space btw )to avoid war target's (they just follwed us) and when they come there to attack, defend! for 6 people, 6! moved an entire alliance for 6 war target's, couldnt we of stayed out of butt F*** nowhere and done the pretty much the same thing in the a space we were already in since they just followed us around? the blues in system wont do crap besides provide intell becuz they are not in the war.
he also goes around sayin commander and cheif/ ceo blah blah blah it's a video game man, your not a ceo, sit your ass down, then you got the long ass emails he sends you ( see above ) and it's /bore and on top of that he tells his corpmates what to do all the freakin time, move here, stay here, dont buy anything without an escort, stare at this gate for 4 hours then come to realization that you just wasted your time, i play this game to have fun, not to have to go around stayin in a crappy system 10 jumps out doing nothing because that's what you want. he also pushes his /playtime as a reason for him being right and to and put's his corpmates down. / end rant
p.s enn, you have so many freakin spies in your alliance and i know who some are, it's funny but that sad thing is, there really isnt a reason for there to be any spies, there is really no big plans of motion happening anytime soon, no action, no dice.
I wish you luck GalOre, there really are some good pilot's in there.
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Lexa HeIIfury
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Posted - 2010.08.18 07:04:00 -
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PVP GOD -------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.08.18 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Lightningshade on 18/08/2010 07:24:50 Edited by: Lightningshade on 18/08/2010 07:24:14
Originally by: Xenuria
Most corps and alliances use a VOIP (voice over IP) client like ventrilo or T3. Some still prefer text based clients like irc or mibbit.
Only the restarted fkin alliances and corps used text based for fleet command.
edit :- And the deaf, but I really dont care about either group.
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talaxian
Binary Star Navy Binary Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.18 20:10:00 -
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IN AN AWESOME TWIST OF EVENTS ENN WROTE ANOTHER LONG EVEMAIL.
MOAR AT 10!
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.08.18 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury PVP GOD
i don't even know where to start =/ ♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
Time2Whine
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Posted - 2010.08.19 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria The infiltration of these non-eve environments and the subsequent grooming of the individuals that frequent them is often more sophisticated then the meta-games in eve.
...grooming?
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.19 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury PVP GOD
i don't even know where to start =/
Focus on what he did right and go from there. It makes a much shorter list.
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.19 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury PVP GOD
i don't even know where to start =/
Focus on what he did right and go from there. It makes a much shorter list.
it wouldnt even constitute a list, hell...it would be blank
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Doctor Miyage
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:07:00 -
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I helped blow up a couple of Myrmidons and a Scorpion once. Can I be a PVP God too?
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:00:00 -
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It's so funny how mad Enn Deekay gets. Every time he gets on he talks about Karl Zahn and Hirogen Raiders. Every other word is nasty and he, for all he says about not getting angry, is fuming under his bonnet
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.08.20 23:36:00 -
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The Xziles has declared war on Hirogen Raiders. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
So HELM, not good enough to defeat us on your own. Your leader is a good pvper yes? And you trust him and his 10 minute rants at Karl Zahn who he doesn't hate, despite constantly calling him a 'louse' and a 'little sh**'
but i digress
We are Hirogen Raiders, contact me if you do not trust anything that Enn says, for example:
1. Hit squads to kill Karl Zahn = lie 2. Counter intelligence = lie (you have been collecting our alts via killboards, that is all) 3. Karl stole billions of isk = lie (he stole 1 tower and a few mods about 250million isk maximum)
Stop believing his, well frankly lies, convo me, members of HELM for the truth
regards
Tryce
Meh
TJ
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Migomi Hysatacks
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Posted - 2010.08.21 01:02:00 -
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I heartily endorse this event or product.
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.21 16:27:00 -
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HELM suffer more embarrassing losses, more at 10
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Iam Terrible
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Posted - 2010.08.21 17:04:00 -
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One day I, too, want to become a PVP-god like this♥
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.21 18:49:00 -
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well ui always knew HELM were terrible ever since we face****d a fleet of theirs with no losses while we were out and about in molden heath, guess this is more confirmation.
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php |
Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.22 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Darek Castigatus well ui always knew HELM were terrible ever since we face****d a fleet of theirs with no losses while we were out and about in molden heath, guess this is more confirmation.
yeah its not hard at all apparently. everyone's doing it
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Raven Split
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Posted - 2010.08.22 21:27:00 -
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Man these guys suck more than we do, post this new news at 10 damnit this comedy routine is hilarious.
You guys should take up comedy writing professionally, seriously dude!
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.08.22 21:54:00 -
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PvP god is so pr0 he has NEGATIVE points on battleclinic. All hail! - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
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Enn DeeKay
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Posted - 2010.08.22 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia Any corp or alliance that tries to fine you for undocking during a war isn't worth being in.
Yes, there are good ways to handle a war, yes, travel in packs, etc. But any corp or alliance that tries to control how you play that much, to the point of imposing fines, is not worth the trouble.
At last an intelligent response. I'm afraid that those who report these things are at best functional illiterates. They read, but only badly and never really understand what it is they are reading. HELM has no fines for undocking during a war. Never has had. Never will have. As I've explained before some FCs pop those who disobey orders in fleets and so on. I'd rather have the ship still in my fleet, so I find those who disobey orders. The ISK goes to Ship Replacement Fund to benefit the entire alliance and those good pilots who fly well in fleets, and might lose one occasionally.
I've found this to be extremely effective and a great way to ensure that orders are listened to and carried out; it's a better solution than doing what most FCs do when an idiot disobeys an order, namely: primary the offender and blow his ship up.
The trash that people will believe on these forums simply makes those who comment without knowing the truth as foolish as those who misinterpret. Pack mentality, collective think and push-button thinking is what most of this yap-yap amounts to.
But if you guys and gals would all rather play Post Forum Trash than play the game, you do that, it's your dollar in the subscription.
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Enn DeeKay
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Posted - 2010.08.23 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tryce Jaor The Xziles has declared war on Hirogen Raiders. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Aw don't cry. Really, they are perfectly capable of identifying nasty little worms that need eradication on their own. They don't need us to point them in the direction of pest eradication.
We had nothing to do with this war dec. But you think what you like, I mean you've already swallowed everything that Karl Zahn told you and licked your lips like the good little c********* you are. If you're already that low down, there's really no further to go.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor So HELM, not good enough to defeat us on your own. Your leader is a good pvper yes? And you trust him and his 10 minute rants at Karl Zahn who he doesn't hate, despite constantly calling him a 'louse' and a 'little sh**'
Heh. Hate? No. Identify as the character he is, yes. All the labels given apply and stick well with a good piece of duct tape. Want to read the transcripts with him? The many attempts to reason with him? To see the daily snarky, snide remarks he made about everybody and everything? I'd post it but I have better things to do with my time, than feed his exposed and naked ego.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor but i digress
Aye, the moment you posted you did.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor We are Hirogen Raiders, contact me if you do not trust anything that Enn says, for example:
1. Hit squads to kill Karl Zahn = lie
Nope.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor 2. Counter intelligence = lie (you have been collecting our alts via killboards, that is all)
We got all the counterintel we needed from one of your buddies, Rob3rtoyfd (never trust a drunk). He told us about the planned Afronnie heist, that failed and exposed two of your spies.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor 3. Karl stole billions of isk = lie (he stole 1 tower and a few mods about 250million isk maximum)
Ah, so now we know how much he got. We frankly though he had lifted more. But it's enough to know that he's a thief, and have it admitted. Thank you. But thief is thief no matter whether it's one ISK or 500 Billion ISK. And all we care to know is that he is a thief. How much or how little is irrelevant.
That you hang with thieves, believe what they say and invite them into your corp, is laughable.
Originally by: Tryce Jaor Stop believing his, well frankly lies, convo me, members of HELM for the truth
I didn't tell any lies. You've confirmed the truth, Tryce. Thank you very much.
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Enn DeeKay
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Posted - 2010.08.23 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury PVP GOD
Talk about the functionally illiterate. This is a prime example.
The original first sentence of the post by Tryce Jaor was not at all referring to me. None of you have read this correctly at all. Who Tryce was referring to was his source, and that source was not me. It was Rob3rtoyfd, Warlord of Tabbetzur. But you all misinterpreted it and simply make it clear that you should all go back to school and study English.
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.08.23 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 23/08/2010 11:59:56
Originally by: Enn DeeKay
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury PVP GOD
Talk about the functionally illiterate. This is a prime example.
The original first sentence of the post by Tryce Jaor was not at all referring to me. None of you have read this correctly at all. Who Tryce was referring to was his source, and that source was not me. It was Rob3rtoyfd, Warlord of Tabbetzur. But you all misinterpreted it and simply make it clear that you should all go back to school and study English.
Sorry to burst bubble, but to clear things up, i was referring to you NDK, hence i made no effort to clarify my meaning as everybody else understood this....
best wishes
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.08.23 12:43:00 -
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I'm on par with a PvP God?
I had no idea, I need to go find myself a bigger ego.
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Rachel McTingle
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Posted - 2010.08.23 13:09:00 -
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I love you Enn. you make eve so much more entertaining. What I love most about you is your incredible ego which is backed up by nothing at all. As intelligent as you seem to be you simply cannot grasp one simple fact. If you would just SHUT UP you would cause a lot less grief to yourself and those around you. Hell, your own members have repeatedly referred to you as a horrible leader possessed of a huge ego. How many corps wardeccing you have said that it was all because of you and your mouth?
So maybe ask yourself, why can't you ever leave it alone? Someone questioned your pvp ability on battleclinic, so you spent HOURS posting how much he sucked on every one of his lossmails until you got banned. Was that fun? Doesn't that maybe say something about you that your ego is so huge and fragile that you simply cannot take any insult, real or imagined, without some incredibly over-the-top rambling and inane response?
By the way, how is the "Target Denial Victory" strategy going?
Love and kisses.
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2010.08.23 16:34:00 -
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and awe
someone has been putting units of EMP S under their pillow again for the PvP fairy...
what do people like this do in real-life? Banking, insurance, run for political office maybe?
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Karl Zahn
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Posted - 2010.08.23 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Enn DeeKay
Originally by: Tryce Jaor 3. Karl stole billions of isk = lie (he stole 1 tower and a few mods about 250million isk maximum)
Ah, so now we know how much he got. We frankly thought he had stolen more. But it's enough to know that he's a thief, and have it admitted. Thank you. But thief is thief no matter whether it's one ISK or 500 Billion ISK. And all we care to know is that he is a thief. How much or how little is irrelevant.
That you hang with thieves, Tryce, believe what they say and invite them into your corp, is laughable. But says much of your own character.
Now allow me to clarify for you. I pumped hundreds of millions of isk into Universal Star. You clearly werent aware of this beforehand. When Eudare decided to eject me, reasons irrelevant, I asked for my isk or an equal portion of assets in recompence as Eudare had promised when the corporation was first started. No isk or assets were offered, clearly Eudare decided to revert to theivery, I am not surprised. I decided to sieze a tiny fraction of the isk i had put into the corporation as compensation for being robbed.
I am not the thief, you are harbouring one, I for one want nothing to do with a thief but clearly you do.
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kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.23 19:15:00 -
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Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
first name should be changed to Brain...because that's what happens to everyone who reads the 'wall of text'
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Riedle
Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.08.23 23:00:00 -
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Quote: I mean you've already swallowed everything that Karl Zahn told you and licked your lips like the good little c********* you are
SanFrancisco ****sucka!
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Kingston Black
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Posted - 2010.08.24 00:21:00 -
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I've found this to be extremely effective and a great way to ensure that orders are listened to and carried out; it's a better solution than doing what most FCs do when an idiot disobeys an order, namely: primary the offender and blow his ship up.
when exactly does that happen then, hmm?
I guess being a pvp god you must have a lot of experience in FC'ing then. No alliance in the SC or NC primaries people for disobeying an order, hell half the kills we all get are from lemmings.
But then what do we know we only have a small ammount of space we fought for you have... ohh wait....
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Rachel McTingle
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Posted - 2010.08.24 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: kiki mo Enn DeeKay - PVP GOD
first name should be changed to Brain...because that's what happens to everyone who reads the 'wall of text'
Sniper is formed.
Also, any Enn thread has the obligatory " minimum of 3 posts in a row of senseless chest beating/I'm awesome/I'm a genius compared to you morons" wall of text.
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Migomi Hysatacks
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Posted - 2010.08.24 13:07:00 -
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So, will these hitmen going after Zahn be undocking at all?
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Rachel McTingle
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Posted - 2010.08.24 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Migomi Hysatacks So, will these hitmen going after Zahn be undocking at all?
Undocking? What is this new tactic you speak of?
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Clyde Shelton
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Posted - 2010.08.25 18:28:00 -
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You're the one who makes deals with murders yea? Well I've come to make mine. Release me.
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Scaldari Anitoba
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.25 21:07:00 -
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Actually ive been in fleets where Starcrash (NC) regularly calls primaries on friendlies who are not following his instructions. One of the many reasons i never fly in his fleets anymore hehe
Kingston Black.... when exactly does that happen then, hmm?
I guess being a pvp god you must have a lot of experience in FC'ing then. No alliance in the SC or NC primaries people for disobeying an order, hell half the kills we all get are from lemmings.
But then what do we know we only have a small ammount of space we fought for you have... ohh wait....
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Migomi Hysatacks
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Clyde Shelton
Release me.
OHSHI-!
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Clyde Shelton
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Posted - 2010.08.27 22:12:00 -
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I'm just gettin' warmed up.
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.09.03 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 03/09/2010 21:15:30 Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 03/09/2010 21:15:05 Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 03/09/2010 21:14:40 From: CONCORD Sent: 2010.08.29 22:27
CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
and then.....
Vort3x. has declared war on HELM Alliance. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. For your convenience we have included the appropriate CONCORD War Rules:
AND THEN.....
Be Advised.... From: Enn DeeKay Sent: 2010.09.03 09:48 To: Zack Lonewolf,
Your comments using my real name and accusing me of theft on your profiel are libellous.
They have been screenshot and I will be taking this up with CCP, the GMS and my attorneys, unless you publish a sincere public apology to me on the forums and withdraw from the corporation and cease and desist on all hostile activities in this game against me, HELM and any HELM entity. Shouldn't have used my real name.
Libel and Defamation * (there was a wiki link her)
You've gone too far when you can't leave real life at the log-in.
Learn to the play the game in the game and leave real life out of it.
This is your one and only chance to set this right. If you do not act immediately and send me the link with your apology you will feel the full real world consequence that arises when you violate the rights of another.
Be grateful I give you this ONE opportunity.
And if you do not remember you had the chance.
Don't be more of a fool than you already are.
1.Multiple petitions against us have failed, 1 worked but was then reversed 2.The only thing we did was post a publicly available drawing ingame, http://www.marcellelacour.com/art_gallery/art_gallery_portrep.html# (he is allegedly the 2nd image called NDK, writer..)
3. Stop threatening us.... it wont work..
from our CEO:
Zack Lonewolf > This is a computer game if you are actually going to to and sue us because i have accused you of stealing in game money (isk) from a friend then ill laugh myself right through the court you drooling lunatic....
Regards
Verah, err tryce
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.09.03 21:36:00 -
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a NEW MAIL from Enn
Re: Re: Be Advised.... From: Enn DeeKay Sent: 2010.09.03 21:29 To: Eudare Meswime, Zack Lonewolf,
(1) You have made your decision and were warned of the consequences.
(2) Once again you are mistaken: I have not filed a single petition to date on any member of Hirogen or Vort3x
(3) Get your facts straight. Stop being gullible and lsitening to the lies of Karl Zahn.
(a) I never stole anything from him. How could I, I was not a member of his corp and he never loaned me any ISK so I never stole anything and where is the proof of the theft? You fools will believe anything that twisted sociopath will say. He was booted from UPAY because he was a disruptive antisocial force in the alliane and that is all. In the process of leaving he then committed an act of corp theft. Whatever he had told you is a pack of lies.
(b) I never removed him form the corp Universal Star, his CEO - Eudare Meswime - did.
(c) Defamation occurs when you use a real name - learn how to read English. The game is a part of real life and the real world, that you have defamed my character and my real identify means you have committed a real world crime. Therefore you are subject to real world laws. Again stop being more of a fool than you alaready are.
I will pursue this matter and you are the architect of the consequences.
I'm sure you will regret making this decision and ignoring my generosity and act of good will.
You should have stuck to playing a good honest clean game per the rules of the game and the laws that appliy internationally and otherwise, and left real life at the log-in.
Own the consequences of your own decision because it is you who are responsible for what will now occur.
Should be a landmark case. Enjoy it. You had your chance.
we are threatened :(
I can recommend some good lawyers from Crane, Poole and Schmitt to help you?
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.05 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Hilly22222 on 05/09/2010 11:21:07 lawl, what an ass
internet spaceships - srs bsns
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.05 14:24:00 -
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Its not defamation if you are speaking the truth?
Its idiots like this that drag RL laws and suits into games that make stupid crap like those "internet bully" laws get passed.
Enn DeeKay, I hope you die in a horrible car fire while all your loved ones watch you burn in screaming agony. [/in game] ♥
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Tryce Jior
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Posted - 2010.09.05 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Enn DeeKay You fools will believe anything that twisted sociopath will say.
Um, libel much? Hypocrite...
Originally by: Enn DeeKay (c) Defamation occurs when you use a real name - learn how to read English. The game is a part of real life and the real world, that you have defamed my character and my real identify means you have committed a real world crime. Therefore you are subject to real world laws. Again stop being more of a fool than you alaready are.
I will pursue this matter and you are the architect of the consequences.
I'm sure you will regret making this decision and ignoring my generosity and act of good will.
You should have stuck to playing a good honest clean game per the rules of the game and the laws that appliy internationally and otherwise, and left real life at the log-in.
Own the consequences of your own decision because it is you who are responsible for what will now occur.
Should be a landmark case. Enjoy it. You had your chance.
No court would take this up, you idiot. Your name was publicly available information. Perhaps CCP won't like it, and they might issue some form of punishment, but this is in no way a legal matter.
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.09.09 18:08:00 -
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The Vort3x "war of attrition" - How goes the war? From: Enn DeeKay Sent: 2010.09.09 01:00 To: HELM Alliance,
The war goes like this:
The war targets log in between 1800 and 22:00 (occasionally up to as late as 0200 but never later).
They dock in stations in Eldulf, Illamur and Osoggur. They smack in local. The usual lies, and fantasies of a deluded Karl Zahn and his manipulated cronies who have bought hook-line-and-sinker the hollow tale of lies that Karl Zahn has spun to get them to do his bidding. Zahn claims the reasons for the war being in the first 3 weeks because of the "Tyrant Enn DeeKay", 'worst leader in history of EVE" "architect of 3 failure cascades" etc. Then in the 4th week of war it becomes (1) Enn Deekay stole ISK from Karl and (2) "Enn DeeKay is blah, blah....blahhhhh" and (3) We will free the members of HELM from ENn DeeKay's tyranny by shooting those members, even though our real target is Enn DeeKay (on whom they have no kills and whom they have never really pursued).
We see this switch of "war against a tyrant" to "war for ISK" as a simple sign of weakness as boredom takes its toll on the camped in Vort3x pilots. And it puts the lie to Karl Zahn's "the isk is nothing" lie.
The truth is Enn DeeKay never stole ISK from Karl. Karl has never loaned Enn any ISK, and Enn was never in his corp to steal any ISK. Karl Zahn doesn't deal in truth. When his cronies were challenged on these facts they switched their story to "Eudare is to blame" "Eudare is the thief" (we'll check this but I doubt it) and "Enn DeeKay is responsible." Liars never have a straight story and they adapt their story as it is exposed for the fabrication it is to try and cover their tracks and create even more confusion to disguise their exposed immoral and reprehensible position.
If Karl Zahn had any legitimate claim - and had not committed a corporate theft and then declared war on HELM and then carried out and introduced metagaming into EVE using real world information in a misguided attempt to hurt or harm Enn DeeKay in a game - then HELM may have considered his extortion demand. However, he has not followed the usual diplomatic procedures. He should have declared that he wanted this ISK (an unspecified ammount) . No such communication has ever been received by HELM. I am awaiting Eudare Meswime's return from vacation and move to confirm that Karl actually made a demand for recompense. But I sincerely doubt that any members of the CEO council would be willing to pay Karl Zahn, and I doubt that Karl ever wrote an EVEMail to make such a claim on Eudare. ANd if he had, following the fact of theft, it is simply extortion.
Karl claims he will continue to war dec HELM forever, we don't mind. Hes' footing the bill for his bruised and battered little ego and its' costing us nothing. Karl Zahn is permaKOS to HELM as are his alts and we will hunt them repeatedly when we are good and ready.
But then, there are other actions open to us should Karl in fact do this.
The truth is this: Karl Zahn started this war. The real reasons are not known (though Karl has claimed them as above but there is no truth to these simple fabrications, and why would there be? Karl is not about to tell his new buddies that he is an antisocial asshat, is he?).
But we suspect that the real "reason" for thsi war is simply this: Karl Zahn was expelled from his original corp for antisocial behavior. This has bruised his excessively fragile ego and he has now spun a tale of deception that has involved Tryce Jaor, LXBT and some others, who have as nasty a character as Karl's. We are certainly happy that Karl has found a group of players to fly with that are more suited to his own antisocial temperatment and character. The very fact that he is compelled to use private information in a game that violates real world ethics and international law, and that he encourages such behaviro in others is a measure of his real world psychological condition, and were I his buddies in g
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.09.09 18:11:00 -
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game, I'd be pretty concerned at playing with such an obviously unbalanced psychotic criminal individual who has no regard for law or EULA or simple gamesmanship and sportsmanship.
In 5 weeks of war Karl Zahn and Tryce Jaor have killed approximately 6 ships. This is "a great war of attrition" that "Hurts our members" and "Enn Deekay is to blame" - if we are to believe LXBT who seems to think his sexual proclivities have something to do with playing EVE and are of any concern to me. They aren't. They never will be. The ships killed were mainly rookies or stupid errors made by a lack of team work and coordination. They are to be expected and we are addressing them as a team.
HELM members continue to mission, mine and prepare for zero-zero. We have replaced any losses as an alliance and issued ships to those who qualify for fleet ops. Our members do not hurt, those who have the guts to log in and play are doing just fine. Our security remains intact and robust and the "Spaimaster Zahn" has had his plot to steal and spy on HELM foiled on 3 occasions. He has no spies in HELM and even if he did they lack the ability to crack our security. systems and procedures Many thanks to Deirquiere Dolg and others who have helped us design a workable security system.
HELM is learning to fight well and become a strong better coordinated defense force. We keep our opponents separated and docked up. Some of them are now conspcious in their absence from any fleet engagements and that suits us just fine.
Karl Zahn's stated intention to destroy HELM and Enn DeeKay is failing and their every attempt to intimidate and harass has been blocked, foiled and come to naught. Some of their members are now under Real World investigation for international crimes as they are so immature as to be incapable of leaving the real life at the log-in. Action will be taken against them and it will start with CCP.
So how does the war go? Personally, I think it goes very well. We do not dock up and run away. We are fighting back sensibly, picking our fights and we are working together better than ever to become effective. It is simply a matter of time before we are effective enough to destroy Vort3x fleets. Many of our members are now using Level 4 agents and making excellent gains as they learm the game and have fun.
What do you think? EVEMail me.
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Tryce Jaor
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Posted - 2010.09.09 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tryce Jaor on 09/09/2010 19:02:58 Analysis from Hirogen Raiders Corp:
There are far too many lies and and rubbish in that mail, it would take hours to analyse and point them all out... im sure you educated (well, observant members of C+P)people can see them.. its over 1000 words btw that mail
We have also killed a lot more than 6 ships.. http://raider.eve-kill.net/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=6664
onward!
T
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Hilly22222
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.09 20:40:00 -
[77]
HAHAHAHA
man, he's an idiot
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Rachel McTingle
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Posted - 2010.09.09 22:47:00 -
[78]
Target Denial Victory
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The Gate
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Posted - 2010.09.10 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: The Gate on 10/09/2010 01:48:17 AHAHAHAHA, oh dear hold on I have to take a few breaths to calm my laughter so i can actually type.
*Breaths*
Quote: We see this switch of "war against a tyrant" to "war for ISK" as a simple sign of weakness as boredom takes its toll on the camped in Vort3x pilots.
The only camping you guys have done is in Cov ops, Screenshotting our ships as we sit outside.
Quote: But I sincerely doubt that any members of the CEO council would be willing to pay Karl Zahn
BTW - The CEO Council consists entirely of Enn Deekay and his alter-ego's.
Quote:
HELM is learning to fight well and become a strong better coordinated defense force. We keep our opponents separated and docked up. Some of them are now conspcious in their absence from any fleet engagements and that suits us just fine.
You keep us serperated and docked up ahaha , o'really? Do you just take everything we are doing to you and just say that your doing it, cause thats all Im getting here.
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