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Baeran Draconis
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:55:00 -
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Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I had thought that down the road I may get into it , but just not yet. And if any missions took me into LoSec space, I'd be willing but would actually equip my ship to take into account possible gankers where I might at least be able to warp out if needed.
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP even on my mind when this coward that is too afraid to go to LoSec space to PVP but instead hunts in HiSec mission areas for unprepared and unsuspecting players who don't understand what the hells going on till its too late and their millions of isk worth of tech II gear and battle cruiser have been trapped and vaporized and looted.
I realize this game is geared towards PVP but people like that punk shouldn't be able to access others mission areas to bring their PVP attempts against others who want nothing to do with it. The very way they went about it shows they were knew the players in the areas they were hunting would not be equipped nor prepared nor willing to PVP with them knowingly.
Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
In any case, I've got a load of frigates, cruisers and a strip miner plus millions of isk and other tech II gear thats just going to rot because quite frankly I've had enogh with the way some of the players in this game act and the way the devs leave the game designed so they can get away with it.
I know the lack of my monthly payments won't matter to CCP but I can only assume there have been, and will continue to be, others who feel the same as I do and maybe one day enough will say the hell with it to actually make CCP take notice and actually get some changes made but, until then, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman...."Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home!"
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:56:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:58:00 -
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This game isn't for everyone. No shame in recognizing that and moving on.
The shame comes when you post about it on the forums.
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Korlis Bane
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:01:00 -
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I agree that everyone should be able to enjoy the game at their own pace, and do what they want to do without being screwed over... That being said, MAY I have your stuff? |
Derptanooga
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP...
So.... why DID you attack him?
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:07:00 -
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should have said you were quitting cause of lag
might have had a bit more merit to your most
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...nah probably would have still be a waste of a post
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phermeldahyde
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: XXSketchxx should have said you were quitting cause of lag
might have had a bit more merit to your most
... Just like ur post....... Way to go you have just proven to the eve community you are 13.
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...nah probably would have still be a waste of a post
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:13:00 -
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Liar Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:13:00 -
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*Sniff* Classic. In the wake of dominion, tyrannis and the epic trolls zulu and zymurgist I had thought all the good old fashioned whines were dead. Sure we had the one cloak thread in W&T that wouldn't die but for awhile there it was all fleet lag, clickfest and 18 months. Where were the goon recruitment tear threads? Where were the ninja salvager whines? I had thought perhaps eve was no longer churning through people who didn't engage their brains before posting. Had STO suckered them all away? But lo and behold we were graced by this thread. Thank you. It's good to see that people can still rage quit over the parts of the game that we love.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:22:00 -
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Cthulu bless the op, he finally put a combo breaker on all the other whines.
Oh yeah incase you didn't read the eve info before you joined, when you sign up for eve, you consent to pvp.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
I find this pretty interesting considering you never leave hi-sec and are emo-rage quitting after losing a single ship. I think you are the chicken-crap. Have fun in whatever meaningless game you go to, I hear STO is good, ahahahahahahahaha. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Antaris Xenal
Gallente Fear Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:04:00 -
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Great troll. Would not read again. I can't believe you all fell for it.
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Lord XSiV
Amarr Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lord XSiV on 05/08/2010 06:08:20 This is one of those 'plebes' who think that anything non-consensual should be dealt with capital punishment that I mentioned in another post about how incarna might benefit eve. The previous posters have not come close to stepping on him enough so I will try and fill the gap.
First off, you should know the rules by now, the only safe place in Eve is docked or logged off. You put your ship at risk the second you hit that undock button
Second, since you are a clueless carebear, Eve isn't the game for you. Try wack-a-mole, hello kitty online or something else completely inane. It would be more your style as you have chosen the way of the coward.
Thirdly, you actually got this one right, your money doesn't mean squat to CCP. You see you were meant to be content (aka bait, target, etc) for the original idea of Eve being a hardcore mmo game. Even with all the changes from that original ideal, you in your stupidity, still managed to screw it up and died. Now you are emo raging like a carebear. Oh and you money stinks as well; it isn't worth as much as the rest of ours.
Lastly, reconsider who you throw insults out at as it is obvious that it is you the one who is acting 'too chicken-crap' to play the game as intended.
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Galan Amarias
Amarr Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Antaris Xenal Great troll. Would not read again. I can't believe you all fell for it.
This, 7-10 should have talked about faction fits not T2
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:18:00 -
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In before angry fleet fight guy says 'screw you guys! At least you can pvp..'.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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letmeon
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis stuff
4/10 cause some people bit (was gonna be 2/10)
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki *Sniff* Classic. In the wake of dominion, tyrannis and the epic trolls zulu and zymurgist I had thought all the good old fashioned whines were dead. Sure we had the one cloak thread in W&T that wouldn't die but for awhile there it was all fleet lag, clickfest and 18 months. Where were the goon recruitment tear threads? Where were the ninja salvager whines? I had thought perhaps eve was no longer churning through people who didn't engage their brains before posting. Had STO suckered them all away? But lo and behold we were graced by this thread. Thank you. It's good to see that people can still rage quit over the parts of the game that we love.
Yes, YES! OH GOD YES!
I also want to express my thanks to the OP for admitting not wanting to know about pvp mechanics and subsequently becoming a victim to them and not blaming himself for it. And I also miss Goon recruitment threads. Maybe Hydra corps should start scamming new members?
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Moka Combatir
Amarr Ethereal Skies HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:28:00 -
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1. You could have avoided the PvP by *NOT* taking the bait and shooting the flashy red guy.
2. Nobody said highsec was supposed to be completely safe and free from PvP anyway. Highsec is safer, not safe.
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Whiny McEmokid
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: letmeon
Originally by: Baeran Draconis stuff
4/10 cause some people bit (was gonna be 2/10)
to be fair one was Lord XSiV.
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Mark Raynor
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:36:00 -
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There should be a warning in nice, big, red letters somewhere when you create a new account, or use a client install for the first time about stuff like this.
- Hi-sec is not 100% safe.
- You will, eventually, lose ships.
- You will, eventually, get podded.
- Undocking from a station is consent to PVP.
- People will eventually, lie to you.
- Trust nobody. At best, trust but verify.
- People will shoot at you, even if you don't do anything to them.
- At the risk of using a cliche, EVE is a sandbox full of land mines. Sooner or later, something's getting blown off.
I could go on, but the point is made.
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium This game isn't for everyone. No shame in recognizing that and moving on.
So it's like CCP is saying out loud: "Your euros/dollars are not good enough for us."
It's really shame CCP don't realize the potential in PvE-side and they can't see the huge mass of players who would love it if it's done right.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Redana
Originally by: Felix Esperium This game isn't for everyone. No shame in recognizing that and moving on.
So it's like CCP is saying out loud: "Your euros/dollars are not good enough for us."
It's really shame CCP don't realize the potential in PvE-side and they can't see the huge mass of players who would love it if it's done right.
by right you mean instanced so nobody can bother you while you print isk?
Eve Pve has come a long way, while staying relatively true to Eves nature (lvl 4s in high sec withstanding).
Wspace is awesome for people that don't mind a tad bit of risk for some seriously fun and rewarding pve. There are also plexes in 0.0 that are fairly challenging and not very well documented, resulting in delightfully whiney threads in Missions and Complexes forum from time to time.
Lvl 5 missions need a rework IMO. Also some higher level missions that require some real piloting in like a frigate or cruiser would be cool (akin to the pirate epic arcs).
But if you think CCP should sell out and make a PVE server or pve areas that are 100% pvp free, then you really should find another game. Let another game fill that "niche."
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Moka Combatir
Amarr Ethereal Skies HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Redana
Originally by: Felix Esperium This game isn't for everyone. No shame in recognizing that and moving on.
So it's like CCP is saying out loud: "Your euros/dollars are not good enough for us."
It's really shame CCP don't realize the potential in PvE-side and they can't see the huge mass of players who would love it if it's done right.
CCP (and the majority of current players) would rather if such potential players stay elsewhere rather than changing the game to accomodate more potential PvE-focused players.
They had an idea for a world that was supposed to be harsh, dark, with multiple elements of both PvP and PvE (designed in a way where you could avoid neither). That's what Eve is, that's hopefully what it will continue to be.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:55:00 -
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Can I haz your stuffz too? You said lets pvp as soon as you shot back, if you don't WANT to know anything about "pvp" then that is what happens... This game is not for those who don't want to know anything. Also funny how the person emo raging about being shot at cause he only wants to hide in HS in his missions that no one should be able to enter... is calling the people who blew him up "chicken-crap" who is running away? lol them or you?
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:58:00 -
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I think the consentual level for PvP is perfect in Eve. If you know what you're doing, you can easily avoid PvP. If you really want to push the issue, there are ways to force PvP (wardecs, etc).
The only problem that arises is when people pick on noobs who don't have a firm grasp on game mechanics and don't know how to avoid PvP and they grief them out of the game.
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Guilliman R
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:45:00 -
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Bye |
Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:57:00 -
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Personally I feel sorry for the guy. This happens to just about every second new player, and it would be nice if they were better informed as to exactly how the game mechanics work before getting baited, flipped, ninja'ed etc.
I blame CCP!
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Your Client
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:58:00 -
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WE LOVES THE TEARS!!!!
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 05/08/2010 08:12:49
Originally by: Bomberlocks Personally I feel sorry for the guy. This happens to just about every second new player, and it would be nice if they were better informed as to exactly how the game mechanics work before getting baited, flipped, ninja'ed etc.
no matter what the actual event is, there comes a time in all EvE player's lives when something happens to them that makes them feel like this guy. Those that "get" EvE will keep playing (and get their revenge), those that don't will quit.
To the OP: STO seems to be getting better (from what I'm reading), that might be more your speed? .
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OmniBeton
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:17:00 -
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Eve is PVP oriented. Go play World of Whiners
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:28:00 -
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did you know relise that this is a pvp oriented game no where is safe
allso stuff me has? -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |
RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:30:00 -
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how does the OP have millions of isk worth of t2 gear and not know who to play --
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:31:00 -
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Marks out of 10 are so 2009, so I wont score you on it. However, I do think you gave yourself away with the 'coward' and 'chicken-****' parts. Even the weakest, most pathetic of individuals wouldn't dare come out with something as lame as that, IMO. Not bad otherwise.
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Kehro Urgus
Gallente Ab Obice Saevior
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS how does the OP have millions of isk worth of t2 gear and not know who to play
Easily. I played for nearly a year and had well over a billion in assets before seeing anyone in my missions. Still, I think the OP should've known better, and reacted more reticently with the knowledge he didn't.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:45:00 -
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Playing a pvp game and complaining about pvp is like going swimming and complaining about getting wet. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
Tough luck that you chose a game which explicitly enables PvP all the time then. (It's not like this is a well kept secret or anything.)
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
omgevenmoarfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:49:00 -
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M3 W4NTZ0RZ H4F UR STUFFZ G13F N40 N00B
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Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Connolly on 05/08/2010 09:24:47
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
Today I was standing at a street and wanted to cross it. Now I don't know anything about traffic rules and I don't WANT to know anything about them. I saw the traffic light turn red and then crossed the road and got hit by a bus.
I fully support other peoples choice to drive buses (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I though that down the road I may start learning the traffic rules, but not just yet.
So in other words: I didn't feel like reading a guide, using my brain or paying attention while playing so I got killed. Now I feel all sad and think it's the games fault.
All I can say is: NERF BUSES!
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But seriously mate. How is it the games fault if someone warps into your mission, you actually chose to target them and then open fire and consequent get killed. I think you would even manage to fail at WOW by accidentally deleting your character and then whining on the forums that you clicked delete and didn't know that clicking delete would delete the character - I mean, who could have guessed? ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
These are the people you are giving your money to. |
Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:18:00 -
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PvP game and so called pvpers. Most of you guys warp out when red or two shows up in local. Yup, you almost got popped... It's better come back later or with the fleet. Then the reds jumps out. And that is PvP.
In Wow arena or battleground. At least you're able to see the enemy and feel the PvP. |
Dyzzy Dyvyl
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:25:00 -
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Let this be a lession to all u carebear that just sit in highsec running mission and not doing anything for the real PVP comunity of eve. Sorry but this is a space game and its made around PVP. If u dont agree why do almost all ships have the ability to fix guns to them?? You may be able to say its for PVE but PVE is a drain on the servers that use PVP ppl need. So if u are like this guys who started this thread please go to your login screens and remove your chars. The game does not need you. I do not need you. The servers deff do not need you not gtfo
Regards,
Ps. death to all carebears
ôWise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.ö |
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Rath Blazit
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:30:00 -
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In the immortal words of Randy Marsh.... "See ya!"
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:32:00 -
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Troll posted. Can't even get away from Trolls on Forums!
... wait.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jojo Redana PvP game and so called pvpers. Most of you guys warp out when red or two shows up in local. Yup, you almost got popped... It's better come back later or with the fleet. Then the reds jumps out. And that is PvP.
In Wow arena or battleground. At least you're able to see the enemy and feel the PvP.
Hmm yes, battlegrounds and arena's are awesome, especially after doing them for a few million times.
What am I still doing in EVE? I should get back to WoW asap, seriously !
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Patri Andari on 05/08/2010 09:45:06 PLEASE DON'T GO!
I support the OP (well kinda) Hear me out!
Before you fired on that nasty loot stealing bandit you should have received a message:
WARNING: By firing on this dude you open yourself up to PVP. He/She can fight back and might rip you a new one! If you do not want to risk your shinny stuff just ignore him/her and walk away dude!
Do you wish to proceed with this dumb ass action?
Yes/No
Then all is good, right?
Patri
I'll Roshambo You For That Titan! |
Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: CyberGh0st Hmm yes, battlegrounds and arena's are awesome, especially after doing them for a few million times.
What am I still doing in EVE? I should get back to WoW asap, seriously !
Yeah and the harsh death penalty and the fact you don't simply respawn after being killed really makes WOW PVP interesting. Always something new and since WOW players are all very intelligent the tactics they come up with are usually also totally revolutionary.
Please, by all means. Do go back to WOW. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
These are the people you are giving your money to. |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Connolly Edited by: Miss Connolly on 05/08/2010 09:32:48
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
Today I was standing at a street and wanted to cross it. Now I don't know anything about traffic rules and I don't WANT to know anything about them. I saw the traffic light turn red and then crossed the road and got hit by a bus.
I fully support other peoples choice to drive buses (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I though that down the road I may start learning the traffic rules, but not just yet.
So in other words: I didn't feel like reading a guide, using my brain or paying attention while playing so I got killed. Now I feel all sad and think it's the games fault.
All I can say is: NERF BUSES!
Edit:
But seriously mate. How is it the games fault if someone warps into your mission, you actually chose to target them and then open fire and consequent get killed. I think you would even manage to fail at WOW by accidentally deleting your character and then whining on the forums that you clicked delete and didn't know that clicking delete would delete the character - I mean, who could have guessed?
It's people like you that destroy this game by giving CCP a reason to further dumb it down so even you WOW noobs can't fail. Please, just go play some nice single player game where you can activate god mode and feel like a king. You're doing yourself and the EVE community a big favour that way.
Also, you can keep your (remaining) assets. I'd much rather go bait a few mission runners and loot their wrecks - in the hopes that they'll make a thread like this so I can farm some extra carebear tears to fuel my epeen.
Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say about the OP.
I'm personally glad that such a person, if they are real, would leave the game as they give carebears a bad name and make the lame notion of 'tears' a reality.
------------------------------------------------------- 5 minute forum time delay is a crime against humanity. |
Peter XZ
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I had thought that down the road I may get into it , but just not yet. And if any missions took me into LoSec space, I'd be willing but would actually equip my ship to take into account possible gankers where I might at least be able to warp out if needed.
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP even on my mind when this coward that is too afraid to go to LoSec space to PVP but instead hunts in HiSec mission areas for unprepared and unsuspecting players who don't understand what the hells going on till its too late and their millions of isk worth of tech II gear and battle cruiser have been trapped and vaporized and looted.
I realize this game is geared towards PVP but people like that punk shouldn't be able to access others mission areas to bring their PVP attempts against others who want nothing to do with it. The very way they went about it shows they were knew the players in the areas they were hunting would not be equipped nor prepared nor willing to PVP with them knowingly.
Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
In any case, I've got a load of frigates, cruisers and a strip miner plus millions of isk and other tech II gear thats just going to rot because quite frankly I've had enogh with the way some of the players in this game act and the way the devs leave the game designed so they can get away with it.
I know the lack of my monthly payments won't matter to CCP but I can only assume there have been, and will continue to be, others who feel the same as I do and maybe one day enough will say the hell with it to actually make CCP take notice and actually get some changes made but, until then, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman...."Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home!"
Done psychology, analysed your post, you'll be back
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dyzzy Dyvyl Let this be a lession to all u carebear that just sit in highsec running mission and not doing anything for the real PVP comunity of eve. Sorry but this is a space game and its made around PVP. If u dont agree why do almost all ships have the ability to fix guns to them?? You may be able to say its for PVE but PVE is a drain on the servers that use PVP ppl need. So if u are like this guys who started this thread please go to your login screens and remove your chars. The game does not need you. I do not need you. The servers deff do not need you not gtfo
Regards,
Ps. death to all carebears
Beleave it or not we need carebears around to produce stuff and keep the market going, so telling all carebears to gtfo don't really help you/me or anyone that plays this game you TOOL
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HalfArse
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:18:00 -
[49]
Edited by: HalfArse on 05/08/2010 10:22:30 lol, out of all the people complaining about incarna, i bet high sec gankers arnt amoung them - its going to be a massacare when the wow hordes turn up....were going to be swimming in tears and whine threads :P
also this:
Originally by: Miss Connolly
It's people like you that destroy this game by giving CCP a reason to further dumb it down so even you WOW noobs can't fail. quote]
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:48:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
Wrong game, get out.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:49:00 -
[51]
Nothing wrong with players who want to stick to HiSec and avoid PVP. Thats what brings variety to Eve....
HOWEVER.... Eve is a better place without the OP.
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Foulque
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Can I have your stuff?
Share the riches man, hes got MILLIONS of isk, can I at least get a stirp miner II? ________
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Kehro Urgus
Gallente Ab Obice Saevior
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:04:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Foulque
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Can I have your stuff?
Share the riches man, hes got MILLIONS of isk, can I at least get a stirp miner II?
I think he intends to use it to grief his neighbours in facebook's Farmville.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:06:00 -
[54]
Cya and good riddance, It sounds like this is the game for you http://www.hellokittyonline.com
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d026
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:11:00 -
[55]
some ahve asked before.. but still have stuff yours i can have plxplx?
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Illwill Bill
Raven Dynasty Reloaded LLC
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Felix Esperium This game isn't for everyone. No shame in recognizing that and moving on.
The shame comes when you post about it on the forums.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:42:00 -
[57]
Edited by: BrundleMeth on 05/08/2010 11:44:44 The usual replies confirm my believe that 99% of forum posters are creeps...
No I don't want your stuff but I might be interested in your character for ISK...
Originally by: Miss Connolly ... Please, just go play some nice single player game where you can activate god mode...
This can be fun when you just want to shoot people with little hassle...
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Creepy Goat
Collateral. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:00:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Creepy Goat on 05/08/2010 12:00:10
Originally by: BrundleMeth This can be fun when you just want to shoot people with little hassle...
You can do this in EvE. The OP is a perfect example.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb Focused Intentions
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:04:00 -
[59]
Troll?
Anyway, I'm posting because I don't want other players to read this and get ideas, so...
EVE is a PvP game where you compete against other players in all sorts of different ways. This can and will include combat. Combat can be avoided by common sense and game skill. If you suck you will die.
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Denidil
Gallente Rape Pillage and Burn
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:07:00 -
[60]
as someone else said.. pvp is only somwhat bad when some carebear newbie who doesn't know the rules gets ganked and driven from the game. That being said whenever i catch a newbie flagged in high sec (aka they stole from a can or something) i make a point of ganking them.
then giving them friendly advice on how to not fail at eve.
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Teschan
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:09:00 -
[61]
Wtf? Allow me to flip this thread back to the FOTM whine,
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex, either way pvp areas are too laggy (hurrrrrrrrrrrrr) so I don't blame him for wanting a spot of action over in carebearland.
This thread is now about the lag.
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Sinister Mephisto
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:09:00 -
[62]
I agree with OP, let's give pve players what they want and finally get that mission isk nerf that is so very needed. |
My Postman
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:10:00 -
[63]
I feel a lot of hate in this thread,
Also inb4 captain stupid and his "it¦s surprise pvp".
Further i sense at least one foult of yours. Saying you don¦t want to know anything about pvp will make you die a lot of times. You don¦t want to pvp? Ok, fine.
But not KNOWING about game mechanics is exactly what happend to you. You should¦nt open fire if you are not sure about it. There are a lot of a**hats out there (more than in other mmo¦s imo), waiting for easy prey. Don¦t be easy prey! There are ways to make ninjas yelling in local you know?
Get a cloaked alt in your pocket, in a pvp fitted high alpha BC (dont forget he has to be same corp). When ninja gets blinky to you pop him. Get epic whining in local. If you feel for it, and you are willing to take the sec hit, pod him and make him lose his +4 implants and get an epic hate mail.
TL;DR There is always something you can do about, if you want to. Of course you have to know what to do, not to stick your head in the "sandbox".
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:14:00 -
[64]
Well......bye. |
OT Smithers
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:20:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Teschan
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex
I prefer calling it "surprise sex"
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nu artiste
Gallente Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:25:00 -
[66]
I quitted EvE for about a year, when I realized that eve catered to Half-ass Myrmidon pirates. They were faster than a frigate, deadlier than a battleship, could instantly recharge the shields of the drones, carried 5 Large drones, used NOSF to their cap advantage (it drained the victims cap fully) and were sensor boosted like mad.
Eve was very unfair to me, because I started trying to fight this kind of pirates. And there was nothing to deal with them, they could disengage at anytime in combat.
Now this is not possible, it has been rebalanced to more specific role of a battlecruiser - be a cheaper than BS platform. Speed, Cap warfare, DPS and fast locking on one ship is fairly stupid.
Everything will find equilibrium over time, nothing can stay unfavorably unbalanced for an uncertain amount of time.
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Dang, it's been really slack lately. Either the carebears are hardening up, or I'm just getting a bad run of them. Either way, when I fool them into shooting me while they're running missions, they're just not posting tears on the forum (or even in local).
To remedy this, here's some fictional tears.
Fixed the OP.
+1 For grammar, spelling and general ease of reading. +1 For not being another post about CCP not giving a damn.
Final score: 2/10
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:38:00 -
[68]
So...YOU attacked him and now you are whining about pvp? Stop whining. |
Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:39:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
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happyshopper111
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:40:00 -
[70]
Great that you choose not too understand any game mechanics at all in your thread. Prehaps eve is a little too sophisticated for you. Ever tried noughts and crosses?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:59:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Tippia on 05/08/2010 14:00:24
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players.
This has nothing to do with new players. This is about players who choose not to learn what the game is and then complain about how it does not live up to their expectations. The OP's complain makes about as much sense as someone whining that he can't do Farmville in CS, in spite of the fact that there are/were both groceries and chickens in CS Italy.
Quote: Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
àand there's plenty of room for those. They just have to understand that, whether they like it or not, this game is a sandbox, and as a result, anything and everything they do can be stomped all over by other players. They also need to realise that the are already PvPing. Every time they use the market; every time they mine; every time they build something; every time they do anything other than clicking on the "request mission" and "complete mission" buttons, they are engaging in PvP. This game is suffused to the core with player-vs-player competition and wouldn't function for a second without it.
If they don't want to engage in this kind of PvP, it is impossible for them to play this game, and the game cannot cater to their wishes. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Mr SmartGuy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:59:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
If you don't like PvP, why did you subscribe to a PvP game in the first place?
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 14:55:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
The OP isn't a new player. He's just a permanent noob.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Aristeia Cersei
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:42:00 -
[74]
I smell troll.. there are no loss mails's anywhere with the name Baeran Draconis.
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Gashblight
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:46:00 -
[75]
Quote: ...I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack.
You initiated pvp and lost then decided in burning a burning rage to come cry about it on the forums. I haven't read through the post but how's that working out for you?
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:50:00 -
[76]
Undocking is consent to PvP...sorry your butthurt, but welcome to eVe.
btw...can I haz yer stuffz?
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Shaalira D'arc
Gallente Sephray Industries Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:52:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Aristeia Cersei I smell troll...
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Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:00:00 -
[78]
By admitting you wanted to know nothing about PvP, you have admitted to being willfully ignorant of how the game works. Your ship's loss is YOUR fault, nobody elses.
Yes, you canceled. Way I see it, that's one less person who would potentially try and get the soul stripped from this game. Good luck with your endeavors. --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |
Sourpsalm
Gallente Pubs 'n Clubs
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:03:00 -
[79]
Originally by: OT Smithers
Originally by: Teschan
Highsec ganking is pvp in the same way that rapȅ is sex
I prefer calling it "surprise sex"
Well, it shouldn't be a surprise when you show up dressed like a who... erm, shoot a can flipper and flag yourself.
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:21:00 -
[80]
To the OP: may I suggest joining EvE University (a training corp) before you quit?
The thing that really disappoints me about this thread is that so many players want to kick the OP when he is down. So the guy got baited and acted like a stupid noob and is showing the frustration. That does not make him inferior, it means he lacks experience and/or game knowledge.
With the right kind of encouragement, players like the OP could become contributors to this game. Instead, many of our player base posting here choose to make sure he experiences maximum frustration thus potentiating his departure.
EvE is brutal. Learn to survive or die. Show no mercy!!! Cool. But do we have rub salt into their wounds when they feel like they want to quit? One less sub = that much less money to keep the game going.
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:26:00 -
[81]
You could try the PVE server instead? -----------------------------
>>where the frack is my ship?<< |
Muddy Miner
Gallente Tiny Fleet
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:28:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I had thought that down the road I may get into it , but just not yet. And if any missions took me into LoSec space, I'd be willing but would actually equip my ship to take into account possible gankers where I might at least be able to warp out if needed.
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP even on my mind when this coward that is too afraid to go to LoSec space to PVP but instead hunts in HiSec mission areas for unprepared and unsuspecting players who don't understand what the hells going on till its too late and their millions of isk worth of tech II gear and battle cruiser have been trapped and vaporized and looted.
I realize this game is geared towards PVP but people like that punk shouldn't be able to access others mission areas to bring their PVP attempts against others who want nothing to do with it. The very way they went about it shows they were knew the players in the areas they were hunting would not be equipped nor prepared nor willing to PVP with them knowingly.
Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
In any case, I've got a load of frigates, cruisers and a strip miner plus millions of isk and other tech II gear thats just going to rot because quite frankly I've had enogh with the way some of the players in this game act and the way the devs leave the game designed so they can get away with it.
I know the lack of my monthly payments won't matter to CCP but I can only assume there have been, and will continue to be, others who feel the same as I do and maybe one day enough will say the hell with it to actually make CCP take notice and actually get some changes made but, until then, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman...."Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home!"
Contract all your stuff to Muddy Miner please, and thank you. EMO Rage Quitting EvE? The R.S.O. is here for you! |
Nemeron
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
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LOL hes not leaveing the game. if he was he wouldnt have spent so long posting his pathetic rant....
Look up his char ingame and i bet you he's still there flying his whatever in high sec! and if he is go and loot his wrecks cos he's an easy kill by the sounds of it and you will prolly get great emo rage in private chat
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Muddy Miner Contract all your stuff to Muddy Miner please, and thank you.
Wow... How original...
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Rowbin Hod
Cloak and Daggers Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:32:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:41:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 05/08/2010 16:42:25
Originally by: Rowbin Hod
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
I think your perceptions are somewhat skewed...My point is that, its nothing that the rest of us didn't have to go through. It happened to me when I first started out...no rage-quit thread, just asked the vets what hasppened. Lots-o-trolls yes, but good advice too.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:43:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Rowbin Hod It's unfortunate that attictudes like this get lost in deluge of tripe posted by the tards in here who believe in death to all carebears and would like their new apoc to just emerge from nowhere... magically.
The problem is that the attitude in question is misinformed.
Again, the OP is not a newbie ù he' a n00b. A loss of the former might be a problem; a loss of the latter is not. Wilful ignorance is not an excuse and it's not a problem the game can (or should) solve.
As for carebears, the game would carry on just fine without them. They provide nothing useful that isn't covered by the industrialists. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:51:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Tippia <snip>As for carebears, the game would carry on just fine without them. They provide nothing useful that isn't covered by the industrialists.
I respectfully disagree. Think in terms of all the lost subs : carebears provide subs, which is, in fact, very useful. Gameplay may be improved or unaltered by the loss of all carebears, as an arguable matter, but the game will not be helped by loss of so many subs.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:53:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Edited by: Khavi Kitamatsu on 05/08/2010 13:39:28 Sad that the EVE community is actually shooting themselves in the foot with the attitudes toward new players. For every player that gives EVE a go and is pushed away from the game is another $14.99 taken from development of this game.
Whether you agree with the OP or not some players are not here for PvP and would rather just play PvE. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is their play style...many players do not care for PvP.
CCP claims that EVE is a new player friendly, yet with a community like this and attitudes like this...is it any wonder why EVE has one of the highest turn-over rates for new players.
Actually, I agree with you. CCP would have better customer retention rates if they would actually bother to make a tutorial explaining game mechanics to nubs.
Of course, CCP is more interested in listing to themselves talking to a mirror, and have come to the conclusion that shiney is more exiting than hard work.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:56:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Urgg Boolean I respectfully disagree. Think in terms of all the lost subs : carebears provide subs, which is, in fact, very useful. Gameplay may be improved or unaltered by the loss of all carebears, as an arguable matter, but the game will not be helped by loss of so many subs.
Fair enough, as far as it goes, but the argument I responded was that without carebears, there would be no shiny new Apocs, which is just plain old wrong. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:59:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Urgg Boolean To the OP: may I suggest joining EvE University (a training corp) before you quit?
The thing that really disappoints me about this thread is that so many players want to kick the OP when he is down. So the guy got baited and acted like a stupid noob and is showing the frustration. That does not make him inferior, it means he lacks experience and/or game knowledge.
With the right kind of encouragement, players like the OP could become contributors to this game. Instead, many of our player base posting here choose to make sure he experiences maximum frustration thus potentiating his departure.
EvE is brutal. Learn to survive or die. Show no mercy!!! Cool. But do we have rub salt into their wounds when they feel like they want to quit? One less sub = that much less money to keep the game going.
The problem with this is, the OP admitted to an unwillingness to learn. I would agree if the OP came in with the same story but asked for help, advice, or how the mechanics of the game functioned. However....
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
This, well, isn't a way to get anyone's help really. It's a blantant flag that says, "I want things my way, they are the only way possible, and if you don't like it, I'm taking my ball and going home".
I think the person's analogy about crossing the street is apt. Sure you may never want to drive, and hey, it's fine if you don't. However, if you want to travel around a city, you should at least learn the basics enough so you can cross the street without getting hit.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:01:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Shawna Gray on 05/08/2010 17:01:28
Originally by: Bomberlocks Actually, I agree with you. CCP would have better customer retention rates if they would actually bother to make a tutorial explaining game mechanics to nubs.
Of course, CCP is more interested in listing to themselves talking to a mirror, and have come to the conclusion that shiney is more exiting than hard work.
Dont you guys ever get bored of posting the same whine in every thread?
The "new player experience" has actually recieved quite a few changes over the years. No amount of tutorials would save the OP and his kind though.
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Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:45:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Shawna Gray Edited by: Shawna Gray on 05/08/2010 17:01:28
Originally by: Bomberlocks Actually, I agree with you. CCP would have better customer retention rates if they would actually bother to make a tutorial explaining game mechanics to nubs.
Of course, CCP is more interested in listing to themselves talking to a mirror, and have come to the conclusion that shiney is more exiting than hard work.
Dont you guys ever get bored of posting the same whine in every thread?
The "new player experience" has actually recieved quite a few changes over the years. No amount of tutorials would save the OP and his kind though.
Recently did a poll on a very well known website that caters to MMORPG players and you know what one of their biggest gripes with EVE was? The player community. Is it any wonder why when you have vitriolic comments slamming this poor guy; and he is just a new player trying to make it in the game. Another thing that came up was that EVE's so called new player experience is poorly implemented. When a player has to go outside a game to see what skills they should train in order to be proficient in a particular field of endeavor, be it salvager, miner, or trader, then there is something inherently wrong with that system. CCP needs to redo their new player experience from the ground up so that new players can get up, and running in the game within a shorter amount of time, and with clearly and concise paths to follow to obtain the players goal.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:37:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Is it any wonder why when you have vitriolic comments slamming this poor guy; and he is just a new player trying to make it in the game.
6 months old is new? News to me.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:38:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu
Recently did a poll on a very well known website that caters to MMORPG players and you know what one of their biggest gripes with EVE was? The player community. Is it any wonder why when you have vitriolic comments slamming this poor guy; and he is just a new player trying to make it in the game.
He is not a new player he is a noob. Its the equivalent of playing wow and making a ragequit post because the game has elves and not enough spaceships.
Quote:
Another thing that came up was that EVE's so called new player experience is poorly implemented. When a player has to go outside a game to see what skills they should train in order to be proficient in a particular field of endeavor, be it salvager, miner, or trader, then there is something inherently wrong with that system.
Yes maybe they should make a ingame Evemon. But its not that hard to figure out without either.
Quote:
CCP needs to redo their new player experience from the ground up so that new players can get up, and running in the game within a shorter amount of time, and with clearly and concise paths to follow to obtain the players goal.
Why? Eve is not a game with a straight path.
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Junko Sideswipe
Haters Gonna Hate
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:40:00 -
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The amount of butthurt you can cause to carebear ******s gives me such a feeling of joy that I can't help but feel twinges of pleasure in my lower regions. This is why I get ecstatic about CCP adding new features to the game and ignoring bugs, because it brings in new idiots like this guy and drives the all the e-honor no-fun-allowed scumbags to unsubscribe their accounts, keeping them out of my way. Keep the morons flooding in CCP, and I will never stop playing this game.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:43:00 -
[97]
Moved from general discussion
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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el Sabor
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:45:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
It's not about knowing how to PvP. It's about know the difference between a player and a NPC on the overview. Look at it this way; you won't make the mistake again. Most of us have made similar mistakes early on.
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Ifly Uwalk
Caldari Empire Tax Collection Agency
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:43:00 -
[99]
Why was this moved from GD? Did you actually read the OP Adida?
Ifly
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:46:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Ifly Uwalk Why was this moved from GD? Did you actually read the OP Adida?
Ifly
'I quit' threads always get moved to oope.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Cybrin Scorpius
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:47:00 -
[101]
The danger of EVE makes it quite interesting and exciting. The trick is to get killed a whole bunch of times then you realize getting killed doesn't matter, it's just a game and have fun with it.
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Ifly Uwalk
Caldari Empire Tax Collection Agency
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:06:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ifly Uwalk Why was this moved from GD? Did you actually read the OP Adida?
Ifly
'I quit' threads always get moved to oope.
Mkay. Did not know this.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:13:00 -
[103]
T3 + ECCMs = no one can scan for you.
GL with Hello Kitty Online though.
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Reinhold on 05/08/2010 21:23:26 For as much as the OP doesn't deserve to play a game as cool and as brutal as EVE, his detractors might do well to realize that change will come. Carebears happen, and they will only increase in number as that is really the only direction that the EVE playerbase can realistically grow. CCP doesn't exist to maintain the game in a state that caters to your thirst for tears. They will either find a way to expand subscription numbers without hurting the PvP too much or they will sellout to a big company like EA who will dictate changes from on high without any understanding of EVE culture. You thing CCP is out of touch? You have not seen the lost of your favorite game yet to the "destroyer of worlds."
Seriously, long term, I would write off being able to significantly PvP in hisec space. Our only hope is that they add something like Medium Sec space, make it what hisec is now and then restrict the definition of hisec to something like .8-1.0 systems. At which point hisec will likely become completely safe to the point of being sterile with soccer moms wandering around armed with anti-bacterial handwipes and neosporin, taking care of ever booboo that happens.
Incarna is the tip of the PvE iceberg. I expect all of Incarna to be a nice safe PvE based space game, but don't think for a minute that they will forever reserve all of flying spaceships to PvP only. The carebears will get some kind of space to fly around in and pretend they are cool. And when they come up to a gate that leads to PvPland they will get a big red warning the size of Rhode Island on their screen telling them to turn back. Of course there will be those who ignore it, get blow'd up and will come back here to complain and all will make fun of them too. For there is nothing new under the sun... any of them. But don't doubt that the change will come.
Our only hope is that instead of dumbing down the entire game, CCP will instead only make a few regions that are safe for the "young civilian short transport" pilots.
Pray. Pray like your universe depends on it.
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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from general discussion
Rofl, account cancellation threads are now being moved to OOPE? derp.
Also, adding to all the, "Dont shoot stuff just cause its red, htfu, eve is full of risk, etc etc" Signature removed due to non-EVE related.Applebabe |
Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:43:00 -
[106]
Yah know, I joined this game years ago, before wormholes and all that. And I remember clear as day all the warning dialog boxes that pop up every time I was about to do something that would flag me. Hell, I remember being scared ****less to leave the newbie system because of the dialog box that warned me that certain protections would be lifted.
The game holds your hand plenty. And anybody with half a mind doesn't have to search far for the particulars. Hell, you can learn about silly mistakes if you just watch local. I'm generally pretty tolerant of newbies. But it's hard to drum up any sympathy for the OP for the following reasons.
1) He couldn't tell the difference between an NPC and a flashing red player. The UI feedback is very obvious. 2) The game gives you plenty of warning when your new whenever you flag yourself. 3) He admitted flatout that he refused to learn anything about PvP in a game where you can be attacked anywhere.
Far as I'm concerned, good riddance. If you don't want to PvP, that's fine by me. But at least have the smarts to acknowledge that you can be attacked anywhere and arm yourself with the knowledge necessary to prevent yourself from losing everything. This guy evidently didn't want to do that. --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:44:00 -
[107]
Its the main problem with eve, I think its either going to change or the game will fail. High-sec for mining and industry, low-sec and null-sec for pvp, thats my opinion.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:49:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Incarna is the tip of the PvE iceberg. I expect all of Incarna to be a nice safe PvE based space game, but don't think for a minute that they will forever reserve all of flying spaceships to PvP only.
Seeing as how Incarna is not a game ù it's an expansion to eve; how the PvP content has already been discussed; how it's certainly never been described as safe; and how adding PvE to it would add a whole lot of work for very little profità
àadjust your expectations.
Quote: The carebears will get some kind of space to fly around in and pretend they are cool.
They already have. Now, as it happens, non-PvP space will never have anything cool inside it by very design ù it simply can't because nothing of any use comes out of non-PvP activities in EVE.
Quote: Pray. Pray like your universe depends on it.
No need. Removing all-encompassing PvP from EVE removes the underlying mechanics of the game ù it will cease to exist. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:49:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Edited by: Dr Reinhold on 05/08/2010 21:23:26 For as much as the OP doesn't deserve to play a game as cool and as brutal as EVE, his detractors might do well to realize that change will come.
Why? They could have done so ages ago but have kept on beeing different and grown from it. There are a ton of PVE grinding games already that isnt as successfull. EVE without pvp is just missions online and honestly that is a game that truly sucks.
Quote:
Carebears happen, and they will only increase in number as that is really the only direction that the EVE playerbase can realistically grow.
Why? Its a market thats already full of games.
Quote: They will either find a way to expand subscription numbers without hurting the PvP too much or they will sellout to a big company like EA who will dictate changes from on high without any understanding of EVE culture.
Ah the old doomsday prophet. If EA is that stupid I dont care. EVE is nothing without pvp.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:56:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Undertow Latheus
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from general discussion
Rofl, account cancellation threads are now being moved to OOPE? derp.
Um, they have been for years.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Its the main problem with eve, I think its either going to change or the game will fail. High-sec for mining and industry, low-sec and null-sec for pvp, thats my opinion.
EVE will not fail if they don't change anything. It has run fine for years. But it won't grow either and people don't seem to get that stagnation is really not an option for a real world business.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:32:00 -
[112]
It works fine for people who like to fight, but for the people who don't want to fight the so called "carebears", its not really working.
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:34:00 -
[113]
This ****ing thread goes to 4 pages but my thread with hot pictures of Hermione dies after like 5 posts? ****ing nerds.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:37:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix It works fine for people who like to fight, but for the people who don't want to fight the so called "carebears", its not really working.
What you are saying is that you dont really want to play EVE, but another spaceship game.
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:41:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 05/08/2010 21:49:47 Seeing as how Incarna is not a game ù it's an expansion to eve; how the PvP content has already been discussed; how it's certainly never been described as safe; and how adding PvE to it would add a whole lot of work for very little profità
àadjust your expectations.
Listen to what you are saying. It is a expansion that will add no gaming experience to the game? If there is little profit to be had in a PvE oriented Incarna then how much less will there be in a glorified chat room? Why do you think they put it off for years? Probably because nobody had come up with a reasonable justification for it until recently. It may start out as simple in the first iteration but don't bet that it will be nothing but a chat room with avatars. They are not making that much money off the RP crowd. If you conception of what Incarna is going to be is really that boring then perhaps you should consider the possibility that it is your expectation that is off.
Quote: They already have. Now, as it happens, non-PvP space will never have anything cool inside it by very design ù it simply can't because nothing of any use comes out of non-PvP activities in EVE.
And yet, seemingly against all odds, an enormous number of carebears force themselves to enjoy hours upon hours of uncool and useless activities.
How can you honestly claim that nothing useful comes from PvE? You are including Ratting and Missioning in your definition of PvE right? That is after all how most people finance their PvP.
You need to develop the ability to see the world from outside yourself. You may not find any value in PvE portions of the game. Perhaps you see them as no more than a necessary evil that slows you from getting to PvP. Not everyone is like that. Some people like doing the things you find boring. It is a sandbox after all and not everyone is you.
Quote: No need. Removing all-encompassing PvP from EVE removes the underlying mechanics of the game ù it will cease to exist.
I think you greatly overstate the possibility. "If we can't kill anyone anywhere all the time the world will end!" Probably not. You can't gank the guy who is docked and yet the game continues on. I wouldn't worry about loosing the ability to gank anywhere any time. Even L2 has that same ability. I just expect that it will carry graver penalties and some of the more common tricks for luring the unsuspecting will get closed up. And even then, only in the highest security systems.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Its the main problem with eve, I think its either going to change or the game will fail. High-sec for mining and industry, low-sec and null-sec for pvp, thats my opinion.
It can't. Doing that would destroy the market, and thus the entire game.
More hyperbole. The world is not going to end. Chill. Breath. Take a valium. First, high sec will still have its dangers, those dangers just might not be in the form of players. And allowing for safe industrial and marketing areas will hardly destroy the economy. Civilizations institute law and order for the very purpose of encouraging economy and growth. EVE is actually very artificially dangerous. No real world industrial power would put up with that much destruction and crime in its commercial and industrial areas. At least not during business hours.
If they made hisec space completely safe it would probably greatly improve the enconomy. I wouldn't worry about that. But it would also make for a more boring game so don't bet on completely safe. Safer, perhaps safe from PvP, but not 100% safe.
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Isha Subula
Minmatar Viscosity -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:42:00 -
[116]
Carebears are a part of eve. That being said. So is PVP. The warning when you went to fire your weapons should have been a clue. You will be back. And you will probably be a PVP'er when you return
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Shawna Gray on 05/08/2010 22:55:54
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Civilizations institute law and order for the very purpose of encouraging economy and growth.
Real world comparisons are generally stupid in any game. In the real world stuff break, or gets used up in some way so you have to buy more stuff. Most stuff are definetly not built to last as they need you to buy stuff again. In eve stuff has unlimited lifespan unless some other player destroys it. PVP is the driving force of the market in EVE. Without it the game is nothing but missions online. That would even made wow seem like a brilliant and original game.
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:56:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Shawna Gray
Originally by: Joe Phoenix It works fine for people who like to fight, but for the people who don't want to fight the so called "carebears", its not really working.
What you are saying is that you dont really want to play EVE, but another spaceship game.
First there isn't another spaceship game out there with the same depth of economic simulation. Those who like building things will come here and do their best.
Second, you need to come to grips with the idea that EVE is more than JUST PvP. Yes, there is PvP everywhere and you can't avoid it but that is not the same as EVE being nothing but PvP.
Third, EVE is not a charity for Player Killers. If they can make more money off of carebears then they will, sooner or later. I simply suggest that this is in fact the case and that they realize that. However, I don't believe that it involves and either or choice. Economics is not a zero sum game. There will be both.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:02:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Dr Reinhold
First there isn't another spaceship game out there with the same depth of economic simulation. Those who like building things will come here and do their best.
Yes you can thank the pvp centric nature of EVE for that.
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Second, you need to come to grips with the idea that EVE is more than JUST PvP. Yes, there is PvP everywhere and you can't avoid it but that is not the same as EVE being nothing but PvP.
Everything except missions is pvp. The rest is pointless without pvp.
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Third, EVE is not a charity for Player Killers. If they can make more money off of carebears then they will, sooner or later. I simply suggest that this is in fact the case and that they realize that. However, I don't believe that it involves and either or choice. Economics is not a zero sum game. There will be both.
You simply dont understand the Game mechanics. A PVE server of EVE would be a massive failure. CCP might be getting a lot of **** lately but they are not that stupid. Craploads of mmos have been made to lure in the "vast" numbers of carebears but they all fail. EVE dont.
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:10:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Shawna Gray Edited by: Shawna Gray on 05/08/2010 22:55:54
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Civilizations institute law and order for the very purpose of encouraging economy and growth.
Real world comparisons are generally stupid in any game. In the real world stuff break, or gets used up in some way so you have to buy more stuff. Most stuff are definetly not built to last as they need you to buy stuff again. In eve stuff has unlimited lifespan unless some other player destroys it. PVP is the driving force of the market in EVE. Without it the game is nothing but missions online. That would even made wow seem like a brilliant and original game.
PvP losses are indeed the main driver of the economy. However that doesn't mean safe regions are economically insulated from that driver. Some people would be happy to help supply that need from a safe distance in exchange for higher overhead and lower profits.
Also, other drivers could be put in place to help. Wear and tear could be implimented. Additional taxes or tariffs would likely pop up in the safer regions. Safety costs money after all.
Real world comparisons are not always accurate when compared to a game but they are also not always inaccurate just because it is a game. EVEs economy is pretty significant and complex. Chances are strong that it is effected by similar factors.
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:16:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Shawna Gray
You simply dont understand the Game mechanics. A PVE server of EVE would be a massive failure. CCP might be getting a lot of **** lately but they are not that stupid. Craploads of mmos have been made to lure in the "vast" numbers of carebears but they all fail. EVE dont.
At what point did I suggest a PvE server?
And I am not so sure you can claim WoW to be a failure by any credible metric. A craptastic quest grind but not a failure.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:50:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Tippia on 05/08/2010 23:51:57
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Listen to what you are saying. It is a expansion that will add no gaming experience to the game?
Where do you get that from?
Quote: If there is little profit to be had in a PvE oriented Incarna then how much less will there be in a glorified chat room?
Who cares. There's profit to be had from the PvP orientation of Incarna.
Quote: Why do you think they put it off for years?
Because the WoD team has been slacking off, tbhà
Quote: Probably because nobody had come up with a reasonable justification for it until recently.
They had plenty of justification for it two years ago.
Quote: If you conception of what Incarna is going to be is really that boring
Where do you get that from?
Quote: And yet, seemingly against all odds, an enormous number of carebears force themselves to enjoy hours upon hours of uncool and useless activities.
Yes, but the stuff they do relies 100% on things that can only ever come as a product of PvP.
Quote: How can you honestly claim that nothing useful comes from PvE? You are including Ratting and Missioning in your definition of PvE right? That is after all how most people finance their PvP.
Missioning, yes. Ratting no. Because having access to it relies on PvP, and getting those profits before someone else does is PvP. Missions are indeed the only essentially PvE activity in the game, and that's one of the main problems with them.
Quote: You need to develop the ability to see the world from outside yourself. You may not find any value in PvE portions of the game. Perhaps you see them as no more than a necessary evil that slows you from getting to PvP.
àagain, where do you get that from? This is the third time you completely read me wrong.
Quote: I think you greatly overstate the possibility. "If we can't kill anyone anywhere all the time the world will end!" Probably not.
That's just it: PvP in EVE goes so far beyond just shooting people, it's not even funny. It suffuses every last activity you can engage in (except mission runningà and even then there are PvP parts to it that the carebears want expunged for no adequate reason). Quote: More hyperbole. The world is not going to end. Chill. Breath. Take a valium. First, high sec will still have its dangers, those dangers just might not be in the form of players. And allowing for safe industrial and marketing areas will hardly destroy the economy.
Vast overproduction. Reduced demand (vastly reduced, even, for some high-end items). Complete inability for new entities to find a place in the market (can't remove the competition). Complete inability for interdiction of logistics. Nearly all of the balancing mechanics wiped out. Oh, it would wreck things to no end all right.
Quote: Civilizations institute law and order for the very purpose of encouraging economy and growth.
Irrelevant. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Kate Mosh
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:56:00 -
[123]
His loss.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:00:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Kate Mosh His loss.
♥ double tankà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Olleybear
Minmatar I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:02:00 -
[125]
There are only 2 things I can agree with the OP on. Everything else makes me boggle.
1st is missions shouldn't be so easy to scan down. 5 seconds and you have a warp in on a ship in a deadspace pocket makes it way to easy to gank mission runners. No, I'm not saying make it impossible to scan down mission runners or anything like that. Its simply out of balance atm imho.
2nd is OP is correct about hi-sec griefers not being pvp'ers and they really do seem to be afraid of low-sec.
I tried oh so hard to get a group of hi-sec griefers to follow me to low sec for some pew pew. They outnumbered be 4 to 1. They wouldn't do it. All they managed to do was smack in local even more. I now have 4 more people on my block list.
As for OP choosing to stay ignorant, well... again I boggle.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:24:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Dr Reinhold Originally by: Shawna Gray
What you are saying is that you dont really want to play EVE, but another spaceship game.
First there isn't another spaceship game out there with the same depth of economic simulation. Those who like building things will come here and do their best.
Try X3: Terran conflict as a spaceship game with combat and complex economy it makes EVEs basic "go kill ten NPCs and come back to me" and FedEx missions and PVE look like a bad joke and the economic and trade mechanics are almost as complicated as they are here, just without the input of real people. Players like you say they want to play EVE yet you whine about the core mechanics that drive the game like item loss and resource competition so what you really want is another game.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:43:00 -
[127]
This ragequit, if real, reminds me of an ex's son who tried to "duel" me like this was WOW, and got his new BC Concorded.
Then he got into another new BC he bought within 5 minutes because he was whining in local and some people sent him ISK, and he undocked before 15 minutes was up, and got the Concord (sans lube) again!
I still remember him jumping up and down at his computer "That's it! I'm not playing this game any more!!".
By the way, would the autotarget module have anything to do with attacking the red flashy?
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Kate Mosh
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:52:00 -
[128]
Olleybear. They must have looked at your BC KB. Last drake you killed in low sec you used 4 BCs and a falcon. How do you claim this type of pvp is better than a frigate killing a BC in high sec? The mission runner wasn't looking for pvp, but I doubt the Drake pilot was looking for a 5v1 either.
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Olleybear
Minmatar I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:23:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Kate Mosh Olleybear. They must have looked at your BC KB. Last drake you killed in low sec you used 4 BCs and a falcon.
The kill you are pointing out happened almost 2 months after what I was describing. The falcon was the guys own corpmate and from when the falcon pilot was in a carrier. Notice the firbolgs?
Also, pointing out a km where someone is in a gang doesn't mean that person doesn't go pvp 1 v 1. I'm going to assume you saw that I do indeed have a few 1 v 1 kills and you just chose to ignore them when you posted.
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Kate Mosh
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:37:00 -
[130]
1v1?
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Winged Crime
Minmatar The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.06 06:50:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Baeran Draconis Ok, I've had it with this game! I don't know anything about PVP because I don't WANT to know anything about it.
A short time ago I was running a mission in a high security area, minding my own business and salvaging my wrecks when I suddenly noticed a red flashing ship and reflexivly lock target and attack, only to realize its another player who it turned out had purposely scanned me down to my mission area and looted one of my wrecks which turned them "red" to me, which I knew nothing about before as, mentioned already, I know nothing about PVP (or its tactics) and don't want to know.
I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same) but I also expect the same support for my own choice not to engage in it. I had thought that down the road I may get into it , but just not yet. And if any missions took me into LoSec space, I'd be willing but would actually equip my ship to take into account possible gankers where I might at least be able to warp out if needed.
But in a High Security mission area, I had no such equipped ship nor was anything dealing with PVP even on my mind when this coward that is too afraid to go to LoSec space to PVP but instead hunts in HiSec mission areas for unprepared and unsuspecting players who don't understand what the hells going on till its too late and their millions of isk worth of tech II gear and battle cruiser have been trapped and vaporized and looted.
I realize this game is geared towards PVP but people like that punk shouldn't be able to access others mission areas to bring their PVP attempts against others who want nothing to do with it. The very way they went about it shows they were knew the players in the areas they were hunting would not be equipped nor prepared nor willing to PVP with them knowingly.
Instead, they were too chicken-crap to go to areas others would take them on willingly or to places that at least people who entered them were aware of the chance for PVP
In any case, I've got a load of frigates, cruisers and a strip miner plus millions of isk and other tech II gear thats just going to rot because quite frankly I've had enogh with the way some of the players in this game act and the way the devs leave the game designed so they can get away with it.
I know the lack of my monthly payments won't matter to CCP but I can only assume there have been, and will continue to be, others who feel the same as I do and maybe one day enough will say the hell with it to actually make CCP take notice and actually get some changes made but, until then, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman...."Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home!"
I fail to see how being sold the dream of open online roleplay gaming for years and then being told "but you can only attack people in this area because otherwise some people might be upset" is fun or good for the future of gaming.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:22:00 -
[132]
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from general discussion
This is a very "hidden" way of censorship. OOPE? Well done Adida!
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:17:00 -
[133]
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 08/08/2010 23:21:08
Originally by: Kate Mosh His loss.
LOL he is for real? I seriously thought we were getting trolled :p
So if you don't want to know anything about PvP, why didn't you just warp out? If you start shooting someone it is your own fault.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Olleybear There are only 2 things I can agree with the OP on. Everything else makes me boggle.
1st is missions shouldn't be so easy to scan down. 5 seconds and you have a warp in on a ship in a deadspace pocket makes it way to easy to gank mission runners. No, I'm not saying make it impossible to scan down mission runners or anything like that. Its simply out of balance atm imho.
2nd is OP is correct about hi-sec griefers not being pvp'ers and they really do seem to be afraid of low-sec.
I tried oh so hard to get a group of hi-sec griefers to follow me to low sec for some pew pew. They outnumbered be 4 to 1. They wouldn't do it. All they managed to do was smack in local even more. I now have 4 more people on my block list.
As for OP choosing to stay ignorant, well... again I boggle.
So you're saying that he has to go to low-sec to avoid griefers? Yes that is true, griefers are cowards.. but i don't think its a great idea.
Eve will change soon enough, that or i think we will see alot more threads like this one.
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Khalia Nestune
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.08.09 07:13:00 -
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Quote: I fully support other people's choice to enjoy PVP (with others who want the same)
You are in the wrong game.
As another player said, undocking is consent to be involved in PvP.
On a different note, you died because you didn't understand game mechanics That's too bad, but it's your problem.
<NELSON> Ha-ha! </NELSON>
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