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rowdy buccaneer
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:02:00 -
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I think the gallente bc's need a more pvp like bc
since the Brutix has more turrets maybe it should have a dmg and traking bonus more inline with a megathron!!
I also agree that blasters should have better tracking/range maybe like -electrons best tracking of blasters -Ions middle mix tracking and range -neutrons less tracking of the three but more range!
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Captain Dorja
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:19:00 -
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I think you might be missing out on the best part of Gallente ships. Compare Gallente ships to Amarr ships and you should notice that the Gallente ship will often have a plethora of mid slots that only a Caldari ship could match. Since Gallente ships don't need to tank shields they are some of the easiest ships to fit on things like webs, sebo, tracking computers, and so on. Also let's not forget about the great drone capability of nearly every Gallente ship. With that said, I think your idea on the bottom about the blasters is probably a good one.
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Salena Tarra
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:57:00 -
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What you have said about blasters is already how they are balanced although I do agree that gal BCs suck and this is why you should train minmatar.
Quote: Off-topic posts about biblical figures and climaxes removed. At the very least, they were not mentioned in the same context. Carry on.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:26:00 -
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The problem with gallente BC's is the active rep bonus on them, they really need a hybrid turret falloff bonus instead or perhaps a HP bonus. Though you could also flip things around and say all amarr ships need to lose that worthless 10% cap usage bonus for a real weapon bonus too. So gallente aren't the only ones who got screwed with a worthless (in pvp) bonus. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Camdelma
Gallente THE DISC AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.07.31 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: rowdy buccaneer
maybe like -electrons best tracking of blasters -Ions middle mix tracking and range -neutrons less tracking of the three but more range!
Blasters already work exactly like that. |
Quesa
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Quesa on 31/07/2010 08:24:39
Originally by: Camdelma
Originally by: rowdy buccaneer
maybe like -electrons best tracking of blasters -Ions middle mix tracking and range -neutrons less tracking of the three but more range!
Blasters already work exactly like that.
Oh yes, of course. Why didn't we think of that added 1k optimal on neutrons. How ever are we going to redeem ourselves from this blasphemy.
I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it. -CCP Zulu |
Fistme
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:20:00 -
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Brutix needs a slot, grid, slightly less sig and slightly more speed.
Blasters need more dmg/tracking, not range.
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rowdy buccaneer
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Posted - 2010.08.02 05:30:00 -
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i do agree on the tracking other closer range turrets can go farther than the blasters but the only way to hit some one good is to point and head towards with the mwd and hope you get to them b4 they get out of range
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phantomshura
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.02 08:30:00 -
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blasters need a buff asap they are just useless... they have maybe 3-5% more dps than lazos and x3 times less range plus uber craptastic tracking.
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rowdy buccaneer
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:42:00 -
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what do you think of the brutix having atleast a resistence bonus if not a tracking bonus instead of that armor rep bonus?
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:24:00 -
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U mad? Have you ever had a shield tanked high DPS neutron Brutix on your...rear? No? Well, it will rip you to shredds. Then rip those shredds to shredds. Then burn the shredds. Then **** on the ashes, simple put.
Same goes for a Neutron mega.
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Fettered Soul
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: DuKackBoon U mad? Have you ever had a shield tanked high DPS neutron Brutix on your...rear? No? Well, it will rip you to shredds. Then rip those shredds to shredds. Then burn the shredds. Then **** on the ashes, simple put.
Ok. Can you explain why a shield tanked high DPS neutron Brutix need armor rep bonus?
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:26:00 -
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And what if we change it to a 5% PG bonus? ------------------------------------- I like to fly around and shoot stuff. |
Quesa
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Fettered Soul
Originally by: DuKackBoon U mad? Have you ever had a shield tanked high DPS neutron Brutix on your...rear? No? Well, it will rip you to shredds. Then rip those shredds to shredds. Then burn the shredds. Then **** on the ashes, simple put.
Ok. Can you explain why a shield tanked high DPS neutron Brutix need armor rep bonus?
Tell me why you must use all of the ship bonuses to be considered a "competent" ship fit, in your eyes? Lets not even discuss how badly you were able to follow what he said.
I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it. -CCP Zulu |
Fettered Soul
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Quesa Tell me why you must use all of the ship bonuses to be considered a "competent" ship fit, in your eyes? Lets not even discuss how badly you were able to follow what he said.
I did not say that shield Brutix is a non competent fit. Opposite, it is more viable than armor fit. I just want to support idea to change 7.5% armor rep bonus to something universal for shield and armor fits. In case of shield tanking Brutix and Hyperion waste their second bonus.
P.S. It is clear for me shield fits for blaster ships in some cases are much better then armor fits: 3 damage mods (+TE), velocity, agility. It is very important for ridiculous blaster optimal+falloff
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rowdy buccaneer
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Posted - 2010.08.04 14:48:00 -
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I understand and agree! thats why i suggested the tracking bonus(or atleast a res bonus) Imho i think that would be nice since the bruity is good for fleets vs the myrm tanking while the drones do alot of the work! the main theme i c with the comments is range and tracking not dmg on blasters and i agree!!!
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:24:00 -
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1k dps Brutix do not need more gank. Range buff and blaster shouldn't go in one sentence. If you buff something that's already op to make it more op, everyone will switch to it and it would be zero-sum for you anyway, there's no point.
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Fettered Soul
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99 1k dps Brutix do not need more gank. Range buff and blaster shouldn't go in one sentence. If you buff something that's already op to make it more op, everyone will switch to it and it would be zero-sum for you anyway, there's no point.
it is not OP. 1k dps Brutix is a glass canon with very vulnerable capacitor.
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Mandos2k
Gallente Divinity Within
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fettered Soul
Originally by: Goose99 1k dps Brutix do not need more gank. Range buff and blaster shouldn't go in one sentence. If you buff something that's already op to make it more op, everyone will switch to it and it would be zero-sum for you anyway, there's no point.
it is not OP. 1k dps Brutix is a glass canon with very vulnerable capacitor.
As Ryan Starwing put it once: "... rockets/hybrids are fine they die nice and easy to me."
I wuv that quote. <3
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rowdy buccaneer
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:37:00 -
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one of the grips i see is that both bc's have rep bonuses wich are ok unless youre fighting ina fleet i think a guns or res bonus would be better for the bruity since it has more guns!
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:18:00 -
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Who here would choose another Tier 1 BC over the Brutix?
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trady mctradsytrade
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Posted - 2010.08.14 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius Who here would choose another Tier 1 BC over the Brutix?
oh snap!
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Allestin Villimar
Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.14 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fettered Soul
Originally by: Goose99 1k dps Brutix do not need more gank. Range buff and blaster shouldn't go in one sentence. If you buff something that's already op to make it more op, everyone will switch to it and it would be zero-sum for you anyway, there's no point.
it is not OP. 1k dps Brutix is a glass canon with very vulnerable capacitor.
I wouldn't call it op, but it certainly doesn't need anything. If you're willing to drop some of the dps, you can get a tank good enough to run missions with, and if you just want full dps you can still fit a very nice buffer on it. ...in bed. |
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