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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.27 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 27/07/2010 23:37:43 Hi there.
I've come here today to look for gmod animators (no duh) to help produce a feature length movie with our alliance(think clear skies but ten times better). We have started creating all of the sets/props etc but we are having a problem with the charector animation. We have a fue people who can animate to a good level of quality (no noobs with a phys-gun kinda thing) but at the rate we're going right now we will be finished in 2089.
If you are interested in helping us out please contact me. you'll get your name in the credits of what it hopefully going to be a very big movie.
these are a couple of picture take on set (the bridge of a rokh battleship).
http://yfrog.com/j4bridge2qj
http://yfrog.com/1qbridge3gj
Hope you decide to help.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
these are a couple of picture take on set (the bridge of a rokh battleship).
http://yfrog.com/j4bridge2qj
http://yfrog.com/1qbridge3gj
don't mean to be rude but I think your Rokh captain needs to consult an interior designer or ten
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.28 00:14:00 -
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Thats just the structure, everything else hasn't been added in yet.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 27/07/2010 23:37:43 Hi there.
I've come here today to look for gmod animators (no duh) to help produce a feature length movie with our alliance(think clear skies but ten times better). We have started creating all of the sets/props etc but we are having a problem with the charector animation. We have a fue people who can animate to a good level of quality (no noobs with a phys-gun kinda thing) but at the rate we're going right now we will be finished in 2089.
If you are interested in helping us out please contact me. you'll get your name in the credits of what it hopefully going to be a very big movie.
these are a couple of picture take on set (the bridge of a rokh battleship).
http://yfrog.com/j4bridge2qj
http://yfrog.com/1qbridge3gj
Hope you decide to help.
Linkified.
That will be all I can do to assist
Slade
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:52:00 -
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Looks like it was made straight in the editor instead of planning and sketching it out first.
As it stands, Source is not the best engine for this kind of thing, and as good as Clear Skies was, it's interiors were still rather clunky. You have to do a lot of planning before you even open the editor to make a good map in Source.
I strongly suggest that you do this before continuing with the build you have now, because you will regret it once the time comes to actually record footage. If you want to beat Clear Skies, "good enough" is not good enough.
Pleaase mind that i'm not saying this to be an ass, but if you want it to be good you really can't be satisfied with 'satisfactory'.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Marconus Orion
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:59:00 -
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So you want a bunch of people to help you make a recruitment trailer for your alliance?
How much REAL money are you willing to pay?
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion So you want a bunch of people to help you make a recruitment trailer for your alliance?
How much REAL money are you willing to pay?
This x100000000.
Assuming you aren't just trolling* and are actually delusional enough to think that you have a valid project, let me explain something to you:
Anyone who has the skills to do what you need has more than enough work already.
If you want to get a skilled animator, you need to do one of two things:
1) Convince them that your project is so amazing that they really want to be part of it. For example, if the guy who made Clear Skies asked for some help, he'd probably get it. You, on the other hand, haven't even come close to doing this. All you have is a couple screenshots that look like the result of giving a 10 year old about 5 minutes with a map editor (IOW, like complete ****), and a vague promise that your project will somehow be far better than Clear Skies. In other words, you've done nothing to show that you are any different than any of the countless other people who get a "good" idea and come to a forum begging for help from the people who actually know what they're doing (probably because you are one of them).
And guess what: we don't help them. 99.9999% of their projects will be dead within six months, and the few that survive will turn out to be complete garbage. Show up with some impressive progress and a credible plan for finishing it, or you'll just be ignored like all the rest.
2) Get our your wallet. We don't care how much of a laughable failure your project is if you're paying well enough. Like it or not, that's the only way you're going to get expert help if you can't meet the standards in option #1.
PS: when I say "pay", I mean "cash up front", not "I promise I'll pay you once you do all the work for me".
*On a side note, any bets on whether Joe has been nothing but a troll the whole time and is finally dropping all pretense of being anything else vs. Joe sold his character to someone who wanted to buy the ultimate troll character? -----------
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:12:00 -
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Creepy Goat
Collateral. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Creepy Goat on 28/07/2010 12:55:15 Joe Phoenix.
That is all.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix (think clear skies but ten times better)
No.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Looks like it was made straight in the editor instead of planning and sketching it out first.
As it stands, Source is not the best engine for this kind of thing, and as good as Clear Skies was, it's interiors were still rather clunky. You have to do a lot of planning before you even open the editor to make a good map in Source.
This firstly.
If you really want anyone to help you, you have to prove that you've at least got some of the puzzle figured out. As it stands, I absolutely guarentee you that nobody with the skillset you're looking for, or even aspiring towards will be very interested in any way with your project after looking at what you've presented so far.
Maybe if you nail the level design, you might get somewhere. ATM however Merin is right, what you have so far could have been thrown together in 5 minutes by a 10-year old.
For comparison, some screenies from my first ever Source map which was pretty rubbish.
So get working on ya Rokh
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion So you want a bunch of people to help you make a recruitment trailer for your alliance?
How much REAL money are you willing to pay?
No its certainly not a recruitement movie.
Allykat i think somthing can be arranged if you contact me.
And merin, this isn't C&P
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 29/07/2010 02:57:45
Originally by: Creepy Goat Edited by: Creepy Goat on 28/07/2010 12:55:15 Joe Phoenix.
That is all.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix (think clear skies but ten times better)
No.
/thread
But that said, good luck with it. There needs to be more EVE machinima beyond the standard PvP videos.
Edit:
Originally by: Rawr Cristina first ever Source map
That's a damn sight better than most 'first ever map's...
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.07.29 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Thats just the structure, everything else hasn't been added in yet.
Forget all these losers and their 'details'.
I'm psyched about this project and have complete confidence in you.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Thats just the structure, everything else hasn't been added in yet.
Forget all these losers and their 'details'.
I'm psyched about this project and have complete confidence in you.
Thank you, i think (hope) that was sincere.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix http://yfrog.com/j4bridge2qj
http://yfrog.com/1qbridge3gj
Work in progress right? Right?!
<My tools>
CCP Zymurgist > lol thats great Dan O'connor
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: Joe Phoenix http://yfrog.com/j4bridge2qj
http://yfrog.com/1qbridge3gj
Work in progress right? Right?!
That depends if we can get the people we need to finish the project.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix If I can find someone else to do 99.9% of the work, then I will be happy to "lead" the project and take credit for it.
If I have to do any hard work myself, then this is as far as it goes.
Fixed your post.
You aren't really helping your case with this kind of attitude. If you actually want help and aren't just a troll*, then you need to start by showing what YOU are going to do. His comment was just a polite way of saying "what you have now is pathetic, are you going to do more or is this the best you can do?", you should take it that way and then prove him wrong.
*I know there's a good chance that Joe is really just a troll, but I've seen plenty of people begging for help with posts that are just as bad as this one, and meaning it 100% seriously. -----------
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Maybe if you nail the level design, you might get somewhere. ATM however Merin is right, what you have so far could have been thrown together in 5 minutes by a 10-year old.
Want to know something more fun?
I can honestly say i can whip up that same "structure" in Duke Nukem 3D in about 5 minutes.
But that's more a testament of how basic Source's bsp is than how good Duke3D is.
That said, Duke3D is still the only game ever made which can render actual portals.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Ella C'Tronix
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Posted - 2010.07.30 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Maybe if you nail the level design, you might get somewhere. ATM however Merin is right, what you have so far could have been thrown together in 5 minutes by a 10-year old.
Want to know something more fun?
I can honestly say i can whip up that same "structure" in Duke Nukem 3D in about 5 minutes.
But that's more a testament of how basic Source's bsp is than how good Duke3D is.
That said, Duke3D is still the only game ever made which can render actual portals.
ever heard of descent? :)
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Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:07:00 -
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Think I'll wait for the next clear skies rather. The two linked examples are so utterly basic and uninspired (no offense) that i doubt high quality animators will come to your aid.
If you are going to post examples, at least wait until you've got something proper. ---------------
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Reverse Psychology. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Maybe if you nail the level design, you might get somewhere. ATM however Merin is right, what you have so far could have been thrown together in 5 minutes by a 10-year old.
Want to know something more fun?
I can honestly say i can whip up that same "structure" in Duke Nukem 3D in about 5 minutes.
But that's more a testament of how basic Source's bsp is than how good Duke3D is.
That said, Duke3D is still the only game ever made which can render actual portals.
I loved editing in Duke3D, was lots of fun and you could make huge, detailed maps really quickly with all kinds of triggers and events and the like. Still I miss the Doom editor more, back in the days when level design was fun, even for lil' 10 year old me.
In comparison, Hammer is a b*tch to use and I hated it.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:28:00 -
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Even as a basic structure it still looks better then the clear skies bridge.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Reiisha Looks like it was made straight in the editor instead of planning and sketching it out first.
As it stands, Source is not the best engine for this kind of thing, and as good as Clear Skies was, it's interiors were still rather clunky. You have to do a lot of planning before you even open the editor to make a good map in Source.
This firstly.
If you really want anyone to help you, you have to prove that you've at least got some of the puzzle figured out. As it stands, I absolutely guarentee you that nobody with the skillset you're looking for, or even aspiring towards will be very interested in any way with your project after looking at what you've presented so far.
Maybe if you nail the level design, you might get somewhere. ATM however Merin is right, what you have so far could have been thrown together in 5 minutes by a 10-year old.
For comparison, some screenies from my first ever Source map which was pretty rubbish.
So get working on ya Rokh
What is the NPC in your map, it doesn't look like a headcrap but i can't think what else it could be.
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Midge Mo''yb on 02/08/2010 19:00:21 does this count?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kMt59Tpjyc
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
What is the NPC in your map, it doesn't look like a headcrap but i can't think what else it could be.
Hehe, headcrap.
While your bridge design is slightly more detailed then the bridge of Clear Skies, it's still just an outline. So you may want to give people a more complete view for them to base their judgements on.
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Jack bubu
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Even as a basic structure it still looks better then the clear skies bridge.
no it doesnt
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Miriam Letisse
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
What is the NPC in your map, it doesn't look like a headcrap but i can't think what else it could be.
Hehe, headcrap.
While your bridge design is slightly more detailed then the bridge of Clear Skies, it's still just an outline. So you may want to give people a more complete view for them to base their judgements on.
You'll need to pay half-life to understand that referance. We don't want to give away to much since it might kind of spoil it (alot of work has already gone into it).
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/08/2010 23:43:57
Originally by: Joe Phoenix You'll need to pay half-life to understand that referance. We don't want to give away to much since it might kind of spoil it (alot of work has already gone into it).
Translation: we* can't show more, because no work at all has gone into it beyond the 15 minutes or so you see in those pictures, and posting anything else would make this fact obvious enough that even a fraud like you couldn't believe your own lies.
PS: if anyone is actually stupid enough to believe your excuse that showing a more detailed bridge would somehow "spoil" anything, it's a safe bet they're not smart enough to have the animation talent that you so desperately need.
*Where by "we", I mean "Joe and his imaginary friends". -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/08/2010 23:43:57
Originally by: Joe Phoenix You'll need to pay half-life to understand that referance. We don't want to give away to much since it might kind of spoil it (alot of work has already gone into it).
Translation: we* can't show more, because no work at all has gone into it beyond the 15 minutes or so you see in those pictures, and posting anything else would make this fact obvious enough that even a fraud like you couldn't believe your own lies.
PS: if anyone is actually stupid enough to believe your excuse that showing a more detailed bridge would somehow "spoil" anything, it's a safe bet they're not smart enough to have the animation talent that you so desperately need.
*Where by "we", I mean "Joe and his imaginary friends".
Ok merin if you REALLY want me to, i will post updates tommorow.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.08.03 00:10:00 -
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I'm really excited and bet Joe has made incredible progress.
This is set to be "Independence Day" meets "The Matrix" meets "Lord of the Rings" meets Rob Schneider's "The Animal" meets Pixar's "Up" meets "Clear Skies".
I don't know how some of you can't see the blatant genius provided in those deck shots (yes it's rough but like Joe said, they shouldn't give away too much).
Joe, I decided I think I'd like to help. Now I know nothing in the way of animation BUT! I think I would be valuable in the area of story line writing. Here is an example of my literary skills
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ok merin if you REALLY want me to, i will post updates tommorow.
Awesome. I look forward to finding out whether you:
1) Desperately throw something together tonight and hope that another un-detailed skeleton of a HL2 map is enough to convince everyone that your "project" is more than just a fraud.
OR
2) Abandon this thread, pretend none of this ever happened, and then eventually post another thread begging for the same help with the same lack of evidence that your "project" is more than just a bunch of empty promises. -----------
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:58:00 -
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Merin why don't you c)ck off and let Joe get some constructive assistance with his project. I bet he killed you sometime and you are just butthurt.
Joe, I saw your screenies when you posted them in C&P and I am looking forwards to seeing what you can produce. Even a solo project would be entirely possible if you worked on a shorter project. Episodic content would be an ideal way of getting something completed.
I wish you the best of luck.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:17:00 -
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We have currently got 8 people working on the movie (not including myself). 4 of these people are actors the other 4 are dedicated to construction and animation, so the project is looking very good right now :)
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:41:00 -
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updated pictures have been uploaded.
As you can see the set is far from finished and it is only one of dozens under construction.
The bridge is still missing lights, screens, control panels, holographic emitters etc.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/08/2010 21:52:56
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 03/08/2010 21:42:38 Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 27/07/2010 23:37:43 Hi there.
I've come here today to look for gmod animators (no duh) to help produce a feature length movie with our alliance(think clear skies but ten times better). We have started creating all of the sets/props etc but we are having a problem with the charector animation. We have a fue people who can animate to a good level of quality (no noobs with a phys-gun kinda thing) but at the rate we're going right now we will be finished in 2089.
If you are interested in helping us out please contact me. you'll get your name in the credits of what it hopefully going to be a very big movie.
these are a couple of picture take on set (the bridge of a rokh battleship).
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/bridgeupdate.jpg/
http://img695.imageshack.us/i/bridgeupdate2.jpg/
http://img814.imageshack.us/i/bridgeupdate3.jpg/
Hope you decide to help.
Ummm...wheres the pod or is this a pirate?
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:31:00 -
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Clearly you picked option #1: spend another 15 minutes throwing together more garbage that a 10 year old could do in 5 minutes.
But since I'm a nice person, I'll even give you some constructive criticism:
1) Everything is way too blocky. Seriously, look at the bridge of a real warship, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than 100 polygons to model it. For example, the control panels would not just be a solid block running the entire length of the bridge, it would be broken up into sections. Even Clear Skies had way better detail than yours, and you're claiming you're going to do 10x better.
For example, THIS would be a minimum standard of detail, while if you really think you are going to do 10x better than Clear Skies, you need to be aiming for something more like THIS.
2) Your textures SUCK. Seriously, never use tiled textures like that, it just screams "I'm a clueless newbie who doesn't know what he's doing". Likewise, never use the same generic texture on different surfaces, why would the stairs look the same as the control panel? All of your textures need to be custom-drawn specifically for each object. Yes, it takes a lot more time than just "borrowing" a couple generic scifi images and throwing them on everything, but that's what you'll need to do if you want to make something "10x better than Clear Skies".
3) You've still shown absolutely nothing impressive. The tiny little problem you're forgetting is that Clear Skies was awesome because of the plot/acting/etc, not because of the polycount of their bridge models. Adding a few more detail objects to a single bridge model is not going to convince anyone that you have even a remote chance of doing something half as good as Clear Skies. And you sure as hell aren't going to get anyone to think "wow, now I really want to spend countless hours of my time helping this guy" because you spent another 15 minutes on your bridge model.
If you're actually serious about this "project", my advice is to do three things:
1) Drop the delusion of being 10x better than Clear Skies. Nothing you have shown suggests that you can even match Clear Skies in quality, so bragging that you're going to do 10x better is the kind of arrogance that convinces people never to even think about helping you.
2) Drop the expectation of "no noobs with a phys-gun kinda thing". Because, honestly, YOU are a complete noob at this. My comparisons to a 10 year old with a map editor are only slightly exaggerated, your work is newbie-level at best. If you lower your expectations to a realistic level and look for other newbies to learn with as you make your movie (and admit that you have a lot of learning to do), you might actually get some interest. However, posting newbie-level work and arrogantly demanding only the best animators to help you is an easy way to ensure that you never get any help.
3) Put some actual effort into your recruitment post. Forget about "I'll post updates tomorrow", spend the next six months working on your project before you attempt to recruit anyone. And don't just make a few models, make an entire test scene so that people can judge your writing quality/etc.
Of course I think it's a safe bet that, like 95% of people who make "plz halp me" posts like yours, you will completely ignore my advice and then whine more and more desperately for help until you finally decide that it's too much work and give up your project before finishing even a single scene. However, maybe someone else will learn something from my posts, and perhaps find the help they need for a project that actually has a chance of success. -----------
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin my advice is
MY advice is to STFU.
Why have you got a problem with Joe so bad?
Why do you feel so threatened by a work in progress?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Clearly you picked option #1: spend another 15 minutes throwing together more garbage that a 10 year old could do in 5 minutes.
But since I'm a ****, I'll even give you some constructive criticism:
1) Everything is way too blocky. Seriously, look at the bridge of a real warship, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than 100 polygons to model it. For example, the control panels would not just be a solid block running the entire length of the bridge, it would be broken up into sections. Even Clear Skies had way better detail than yours, and you're claiming you're going to do 10x better.
Funny i remember saying that none of the control panels or modules where fitted? oh yes so i did.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank Why do you feel so threatened by a work in progress?
Do you ever have anything constructive to offer, or do you just enjoy posting to hear yourself talk?
PS: I'm not threatened, and I don't really care whose name is on the thread, I'm just correcting yet another arrogant and lazy whiner who comes begging to the forums with a story of how awesome his idea is, if only he could find someone else to do 99% of the real work (for free, of course).
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Funny i remember saying that none of the control panels or modules where fitted? oh yes so i did.
Hint to the illiterate and clueless: read what I posted, and look at the links. I'm talking about the blocky mess that you're going to mount the control panels on, it doesn't matter if the control panels themselves are awesome (of course, judging by the quality of the rest of the bridge, they won't be) when everything behind them is ugly as hell.
Look at the "desk" thingy in the second link (not the detailed control panels, just the surface they're mounted on), then look at yours. See a difference between the two? -----------
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
3) You've still shown absolutely nothing impressive. The tiny little problem you're forgetting is that Clear Skies was awesome because of the plot/acting/etc, not because of the polycount of their bridge models.
If Clear Skies was awesome becuase of the acting then why such the hard on about this guys graphics?
That is a redundant question becuase I know how you like to ride posters Merin, but seriously are you one of the alts that made Clear Skies? I mean I thought it would take more then this thread to get you to come out from under your bridge. I thought it wold take nothing short of Shining showing back up for you to start posting here again.
Slade
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 03/08/2010 23:47:27
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
3) You've still shown absolutely nothing impressive. The tiny little problem you're forgetting is that Clear Skies was awesome because of the plot/acting/etc, not because of the polycount of their bridge models.
If Clear Skies was awesome becuase of the acting then why such the hard on about this guys graphics?
Three reasons:
1) Clear Skies at least had decent graphics, especially considering the limits of the HL2 engine. Joe, on the other hand, doesn't even come close yet. I said that quoted bit mostly to point out that Joe is focusing on the wrong aspect of his project if he wants to convince people to help him.
2) He's claiming to be 10x better than Clear Skies, which means it is entirely fair to judge him by that claim and expect amazing graphics.
3) The awful quality says something very important: he isn't willing to put any effort into it. Seriously, this is probably the most important point here. If you're going to be asking for free help from other people (especially if you're going to demand "no noobs allowed"), you'd better demonstrate that you're willing to put in a lot of effort of your own. By posting screenshots that look like about 15 minutes worth of work at best, Joe is stating that he isn't willing to do this.
If Joe was posting a finished movie with that bridge, I wouldn't be nearly as harsh. But, if he's going to make a bunch of arrogant statements about his work and then demand free help, I'm absolutely going to point out the fact that he's a lazy whiner who doesn't deserve anything. -----------
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.08.04 01:21:00 -
[42]
Woah Merin! There's playful criticism and then there's snide, spiteful and downright *****iness.. no one knows whether it will turn out better than Clear Skies or not but you could at least wait and see rather than jumping down his throat. Slade made a good point too, most people agree that it was the script and voice acting that made Clear Skies great, so why all the foul words on set design?
And I've played Half-Life, Joe.
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:58:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix updated pictures have been uploaded.
As you can see the set is far from finished and it is only one of dozens under construction.
The bridge is still missing lights, screens, control panels, holographic emitters etc.
Added some more bsp with random textures, and copied the same chair to a few random places. Still not impressed.
Finish the bridge. Show us the finished product. Never, ever show "work in progress" unless it's 99% complete, especially where machinima is involved. The bridge still looks like something i can whip up in a few minutes in Duke3D. I can actually do it in Shadow Warrior and make the chairs with voxels.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:55:00 -
[44]
Joe,
I've sent you two evemails - are you getting these?
Regards,
AK EVE-ONLINE VIDEO-MAKING TUTORIALS |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:11:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Joe Phoenix updated pictures have been uploaded.
As you can see the set is far from finished and it is only one of dozens under construction.
The bridge is still missing lights, screens, control panels, holographic emitters etc.
Added some more bsp with random textures, and copied the same chair to a few random places. Still not impressed.
Finish the bridge. Show us the finished product. Never, ever show "work in progress" unless it's 99% complete, especially where machinima is involved. The bridge still looks like something i can whip up in a few minutes in Duke3D. I can actually do it in Shadow Warrior and make the chairs with voxels.
If it was a finished project, i wouldn't be recruiting people to help.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.04 17:04:00 -
[46]
*some guy posts a thread saying he's going to try and make a video*
*neckbeard shows up with walls of angst ridden text for no reason at all*
I dont get it
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.04 18:18:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Gneeznow *some guy posts a thread saying he's going to try and make a video*
*neckbeard shows up with walls of angst ridden text for no reason at all*
I dont get it
Im a little more then just "some guy"
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:00:00 -
[48]
Keep it coming, looking forward to the end result.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.04 22:24:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Barakkus on 04/08/2010 22:25:06 Not to be a bummer, but I think imageshack is infected with a malicious cross-site scripting dealie atm, either that or one of their ads is...tried to look at bridgeupdate3, and ended up with this popping up:
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:00:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Joe Phoenix updated pictures have been uploaded.
As you can see the set is far from finished and it is only one of dozens under construction.
The bridge is still missing lights, screens, control panels, holographic emitters etc.
Added some more bsp with random textures, and copied the same chair to a few random places. Still not impressed.
Finish the bridge. Show us the finished product. Never, ever show "work in progress" unless it's 99% complete, especially where machinima is involved. The bridge still looks like something i can whip up in a few minutes in Duke3D. I can actually do it in Shadow Warrior and make the chairs with voxels.
If it was a finished project, i wouldn't be recruiting people to help.
Apparently you're too illiterate to tell the difference between "finish the bridge" and "finish the entire movie". Either that or you're so hopelessly lazy that you can't even finish a simple bridge without recruiting people to help?
Finishing even a basic thing like your bridge model is a sign that YOU are willing to do some work. On the other hand, posting laughable WIP shots as your recruitment effort shows that you don't really care enough about your own project to bother presenting a good image to the people you are trying to recruit.
Of course even better than finishing the bridge would be doing an entire 1-2 minute scene. Not only would this demonstrate that you're actually investing some effort of your own, it would give you a chance to show off your writing/acting/etc skills (that is, if you actually have any, which I seriously doubt). With a complete preview like that, you might even get someone to volunteer to help you. -----------
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:14:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin 1) Everything is way too blocky. Seriously, look at the bridge of a real warship, it's going to take a hell of a lot more than 100 polygons to model it. For example, the control panels would not just be a solid block running the entire length of the bridge, it would be broken up into sections. Even Clear Skies had way better detail than yours, and you're claiming you're going to do 10x better.
You obviously haven't done much in the way of work in a 3d engine have you?
You don't make billion polygon models for the surrounding area, you make large blocks you anchor details to later, usually flat bitmaps that have the appearance of being "3d". Cutting up what he has now into tons of little polygons is going to be more resource intensive than necessary. Layering less complicated polygons is more efficient that breaking up large areas like his "control" panel into smaller "objects" with higher poly count. Regardless if you see it or not, the engine still has to render all the polygons.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:24:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 04/08/2010 23:26:14
Originally by: Barakkus You obviously haven't done much in the way of work in a 3d engine have you?
Not much for game engines, but I've done enough 3d modeling to know what I'm talking about.
Quote: You don't make billion polygon models for the surrounding area, you make large blocks you anchor details to later, usually flat bitmaps that have the appearance of being "3d". Cutting up what he has now into tons of little polygons is going to be more resource intensive than necessary. Layering less complicated polygons is more efficient that breaking up large areas like his "control" panel into smaller "objects" with higher poly count. Regardless if you see it or not, the engine still has to render all the polygons.
Sorry, but no. The issue is not the polygon count (you can easily do an interesting and detailed surface with poly counts that are reasonable for a game engine), it's the fact that his entire structure is a featureless block. No amount of sticking details on top of it can conceal the fact that the basic structure is just a block.
Just for one trivial example, where do the legs go? There should be a space under the control panels, but Joe has completely ignored this problem. And no, it's not something you can fix just by sticking on a fancy bitmap, since they have to be cut into the surface. -----------
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:43:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Barakkus on 05/08/2010 00:46:34
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Just for one trivial example, where do the legs go? There should be a space under the control panels, but Joe has completely ignored this problem. And no, it's not something you can fix just by sticking on a fancy bitmap, since they have to be cut into the surface.
That's exactly right, he's going to need to cut some stuff here and there depending on what he wants, but he doesn't need to start out with a billion polygons. Creating a scene in a 3d engine is a lot of deception as well. And yes layering on stuff later is what he's going to need to do.
I don't particularly care for joe, or think this is going anywhere but he's on the right track so far starting out his modeling of his "bridge".
Word of advice joe, you might consider working in something like this:
http://www.conitec.com/english/gstudio/
I've done quite a bit with an MMO I wanted to make 8 years ago, it's fairly easy to use and you can import any 3d stuido max, bryce or directx model into the engine. The scripting language is pretty easy to pick up too, and best of all, you can use the free version :) edit: their "free" version may be the trial, the "free" version I used to use was basically the full thing, but it would compile banners into the executable that would show when you started it advertising the engine...might still be that way, if not just find yourself a torrent :P
Good luck on your project.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.05 02:07:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Barakkus That's exactly right, he's going to need to cut some stuff here and there depending on what he wants, but he doesn't need to start out with a billion polygons. Creating a scene in a 3d engine is a lot of deception as well. And yes layering on stuff later is what he's going to need to do.
The problem is either:
1) What he's got now is the first rough blocking-in, which isn't even close to something you'd want to show off in public, or something that will last more than a few minutes before you start cutting those details.
OR
2) He's got a horrible base to start with, and no matter how much he tries to layer on top of it, it's still going to be painfully obvious that the starting point was awful.
And just to demonstrate my point about how pathetic a start we're talking about, I did the following bridge based roughly off his layout in less than an hour. While it's still not something I'd consider even close to a final project (which I'd spend weeks or more on), it's a hell of a lot better start than what Joe has posted. Therefore we must conclude that the "work" he's showing to convince everyone to help him out represents a trivial amount of effort from him.
Image 1
Image 2 -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:19:00 -
[55]
Please merin for the love of god stop posting.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:52:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 05/08/2010 21:52:17
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Please merin for the love of god stop posting.
You are not familiar with Merin I see
I do hope that this project sees fruition though. I would love to see another EVE related movie.
Slade
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:17:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/08/2010 22:17:23
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Please merin for the love of god stop humiliating me and making it obvious to everyone what a hopeless failure my project is, i want to keep my happy delusions of being someone important.
Fixed your post.
Also, no. Even if you weren't the worst CEO in EVE, you're a very good example to everyone who reads this thread of how NOT to make an EVE movie, and therefore far too useful to ignore. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:44:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/08/2010 22:17:23
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Please merin for the love of god stop humiliating me and making it obvious to everyone what a hopeless failure my project is, i want to keep my happy delusions of being someone important.
Fixed your post.
Also, no. Even if you weren't the worst CEO in EVE, you're a very good example to everyone who reads this thread of how NOT to make an EVE movie, and therefore far too useful to ignore.
OH NO! MY FEELINGS! YOU CRUSHED THEM!! THE PAIN!!!! THE PAIN!!!
Seriously merin, stop trying to be the next cayne, your just making yourself look like an even larger *****.
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:52:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix the next cayne
You realize you're the only one obsessed with this person, right?
let me guess, the antagonist in your work is based on him isn't it?
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:12:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Creepy CousinRoger
Originally by: Joe Phoenix the next cayne
You realize you're the only one obsessed with this person, right?
let me guess, the antagonist in your work is based on him isn't it?
Joe = Zed
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:27:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 06/08/2010 16:10:31
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Creepy CousinRoger
Originally by: Joe Phoenix the next cayne
You realize you're the only one obsessed with this person, right?
let me guess, the antagonist in your work is based on him isn't it?
Joe = Zed
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:50:00 -
[62]
Merin, I love you.
Anyway, how is your... uh... 'project' going, Joe? Got voice actors and/or early scenes to show off? Some snippets of script, maybe? Music you want to use? Storyboards?
Ye'llo? |
Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:57:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia I'm really excited and bet Joe has made incredible progress.
This is set to be "Independence Day" meets "The Matrix" meets "Lord of the Rings" meets Rob Schneider's "The Animal" meets Pixar's "Up" meets "Clear Skies".
I don't know how some of you can't see the blatant genius provided in those deck shots (yes it's rough but like Joe said, they shouldn't give away too much).
Joe, I decided I think I'd like to help. Now I know nothing in the way of animation BUT! I think I would be valuable in the area of story line writing. Here is an example of my literary skills
Joe you haven't gotten back to me yet. I'm anxious to get going on this thing.
I know my writing sample wasn't TOO impressive but like you pointed out, don't want to give away too much too soon
THIS THING IS GOING TO ROCK!
Also, I'm getting my feet wet with animation. Let me know what you think.
If these other posers fall through, I think you and me can do this thing ourselves.
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:59:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia I'm really excited and bet Joe has made incredible progress.
This is set to be "Independence Day" meets "The Matrix" meets "Lord of the Rings" meets Rob Schneider's "The Animal" meets Pixar's "Up" meets "Clear Skies".
I don't know how some of you can't see the blatant genius provided in those deck shots (yes it's rough but like Joe said, they shouldn't give away too much).
Joe, I decided I think I'd like to help. Now I know nothing in the way of animation BUT! I think I would be valuable in the area of story line writing. Here is an example of my literary skills
Joe you haven't gotten back to me yet. I'm anxious to get going on this thing.
I know my writing sample wasn't TOO impressive but like you pointed out, don't want to give away too much too soon
THIS THING IS GOING TO ROCK!
Also, I'm getting my feet wet with animation. Let me know what you think.
If these other posers fall through, I think you and me can do this thing ourselves.
Don't call us, we'll call you.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.08.08 03:18:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 08/08/2010 01:12:00 This thread is closed.
DON'T GIVE UP BECAUSE OF THE HATERS!
SOME OF US BELIEVE IN YOU JOE!!!
THIS WAS OUR CHANCE TO REALLY BE SOMEBODY!
LET'S MAKE THIS MOVIE IN SPITE OF EVERYONE THAT DOUBTED US!!! I'LL DO THE ANIMATIONS AND WRITING, YOU DO THE BRIDGE AND THE.... WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE BRIDGE WILL BE ENOUGH OF A PROJECT FOR YOU.... BUT DON'T LET THAT GET YOU DOWN! WE CAN DO THIS!!
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.08 03:27:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 08/08/2010 01:12:00 This thread is closed.
DON'T GIVE UP BECAUSE OF THE HATERS!
SOME OF US BELIEVE IN YOU JOE!!!
THIS WAS OUR CHANCE TO REALLY BE SOMEBODY!
LET'S MAKE THIS MOVIE IN SPITE OF EVERYONE THAT DOUBTED US!!! I'LL DO THE ANIMATIONS AND WRITING, YOU DO THE BRIDGE AND THE.... WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE BRIDGE WILL BE ENOUGH OF A PROJECT FOR YOU.... BUT DON'T LET THAT GET YOU DOWN! WE CAN DO THIS!!
Indeed. I will help by watching whatever you release.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.08 06:19:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia -capslock-
I only asked to see a storyboard or something.
I mean, that's one of the first things you do when directing just about anything. Joe probably already has done a load of them. Right, Joe?
Right...?
Originally by: Joe Phoenix This thread is closed.
Still seems pretty open to me...
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.08 08:46:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 08/08/2010 08:47:21
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Still seems pretty open to me...
This is true. Since Joe doesn't want his thread anymore, the new subject is how hilarious it is when frauds like Joe try to bury their old threads and start a new one to escape all the criticism they receive (not that it works, of course).
Or we could talk about pie. I like blackberry pie. What kind of pie do you like Joe? -----------
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.08 12:03:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Or we could talk about pie.
Steak & Ale pie, best pie.
Ye'llo? |
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
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Posted - 2010.08.08 12:26:00 -
[70]
It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Eve Oracle wants concealed from the public. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. I didn't want to talk about this. I really didn't. But there are three fairly obvious problems with Eve Oracle's inclinations, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity. First, Eve Oracle wants to rid the world of "defective" people. Second, I never thought I would live to see the day that an incompetent wonk like Eve Oracle could manage to construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. And third, the first lies that it told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; Eve Oracle's lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
I will not quibble with Eve Oracle as to whether or not its methods of interpretation obfuscate any attempt to locate responsibility for the consequential decisions of those who have access to the means of power. Instead, I'll simply state that Eve Oracle measures the value of a man by the amount of profit it can realize from him and leave it at that. It is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. Be that as it may, Eve Oracle has announced its intentions to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. While doing so may earn Eve Oracle a gold star from the mush-for-brains serfism crowd, it is not uncommon for it to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole maledicent affair as some great benefit to humanity. I believe it was Hegel who said, "Unless it provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from 'Alice in Wonderland' behave more rationally than Eve Oracle and its hypocritical bootlickers".
I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that Eve Oracle once said that some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before I heard it say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to tell you that Eve Oracle's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in its unilateralism movement will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being utterly unfair, such policies promote replacing Robert's Rules of Order with "facilitated consensus building" at all important meetings. Furthermore, it has made it known that it fully intends to steal our birthrights. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be. I would like to go on, but I do have to keep this letter short. So I'll wrap it up by saying that Eve Oracle fears nothing more than the truth.
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.08 12:35:00 -
[71]
Ah well.. was fun while it lasted to see merin biting time after time.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.08 14:26:00 -
[72]
Originally by: WTFAMILOOKINGAT It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Eve Oracle wants concealed from the public. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. I didn't want to talk about this. I really didn't. But there are three fairly obvious problems with Eve Oracle's inclinations, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity. First, Eve Oracle wants to rid the world of "defective" people. Second, I never thought I would live to see the day that an incompetent wonk like Eve Oracle could manage to construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. And third, the first lies that it told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; Eve Oracle's lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
I will not quibble with Eve Oracle as to whether or not its methods of interpretation obfuscate any attempt to locate responsibility for the consequential decisions of those who have access to the means of power. Instead, I'll simply state that Eve Oracle measures the value of a man by the amount of profit it can realize from him and leave it at that. It is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. Be that as it may, Eve Oracle has announced its intentions to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. While doing so may earn Eve Oracle a gold star from the mush-for-brains serfism crowd, it is not uncommon for it to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole maledicent affair as some great benefit to humanity. I believe it was Hegel who said, "Unless it provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from 'Alice in Wonderland' behave more rationally than Eve Oracle and its hypocritical bootlickers".
I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that Eve Oracle once said that some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before I heard it say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to tell you that Eve Oracle's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in its unilateralism movement will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being utterly unfair, such policies promote replacing Robert's Rules of Order with "facilitated consensus building" at all important meetings. Furthermore, it has made it known that it fully intends to steal our birthrights. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be. I would like to go on, but I do have to keep this letter short. So I'll wrap it up by saying that Eve Oracle fears nothing more than the truth.
You realise rantgenerators are against the rules? _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.08 14:39:00 -
[73]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia -capslock-
I only asked to see a storyboard or something.
I mean, that's one of the first things you do when directing just about anything. Joe probably already has done a load of them. Right, Joe?
Right...?
Originally by: Joe Phoenix This thread is closed.
Still seems pretty open to me...
If you are really interested contact me in game.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:57:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: WTFAMILOOKINGAT It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Eve Oracle wants concealed from the public. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. I didn't want to talk about this. I really didn't. But there are three fairly obvious problems with Eve Oracle's inclinations, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity. First, Eve Oracle wants to rid the world of "defective" people. Second, I never thought I would live to see the day that an incompetent wonk like Eve Oracle could manage to construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. And third, the first lies that it told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; Eve Oracle's lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
I will not quibble with Eve Oracle as to whether or not its methods of interpretation obfuscate any attempt to locate responsibility for the consequential decisions of those who have access to the means of power. Instead, I'll simply state that Eve Oracle measures the value of a man by the amount of profit it can realize from him and leave it at that. It is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. Be that as it may, Eve Oracle has announced its intentions to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. While doing so may earn Eve Oracle a gold star from the mush-for-brains serfism crowd, it is not uncommon for it to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole maledicent affair as some great benefit to humanity. I believe it was Hegel who said, "Unless it provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from 'Alice in Wonderland' behave more rationally than Eve Oracle and its hypocritical bootlickers".
I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that Eve Oracle once said that some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before I heard it say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to tell you that Eve Oracle's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in its unilateralism movement will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being utterly unfair, such policies promote replacing Robert's Rules of Order with "facilitated consensus building" at all important meetings. Furthermore, it has made it known that it fully intends to steal our birthrights. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be. I would like to go on, but I do have to keep this letter short. So I'll wrap it up by saying that Eve Oracle fears nothing more than the truth.
You realise rantgenerators are against the rules?
Yer lol, don't think he wrote this.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:39:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix If you are really interested contact me in game.
Hey, stop dodging. You don't have to reveal any crucial plot points, just show some progress. That'd get you some volunteers for sure.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:30:00 -
[76]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix If you are really interested contact me in game.
Hey, stop dodging. You don't have to reveal any crucial plot points, just show some progress. That'd get you some volunteers for sure.
I would be happy to give you some infomation, but not in public.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:19:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would be happy to give you some infomation, but not in public.
That's just the thing though. The only thing you've shown 'the public' is an extremely early version of a ship's bridge. You're giving the impression that you're putting in very little effort. If you have something that can say "this project is not a dead end", show it off.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:30:00 -
[78]
Trailer should be done in a month or so, will that be enough? :P
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:34:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Trailer should be done in a month or so, will that be enough? :P
We'll see. If everyone hasn't forgotten about it by then, of course.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:43:00 -
[80]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Trailer should be done in a month or so, will that be enough? :P
We'll see. If everyone hasn't forgotten about it by then, of course.
This is of course his plan, and the reason why he promised to release more information in a month, so that hopefully everyone will forget about his promise. Expect to see a new recruitment thread with zero progress posted in a month, where he desperately hopes I won't just post a link to his first thread and broken promise.
PS Joe: paranoia about releasing information (if that information even exists, which I doubt) is not good for your project. Besides the problem of trying to recruit people with nothing to show, releasing stuff gets people interested in your project. Silence just gets them to forget about you and never bother watching the final result. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:54:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Trailer should be done in a month or so, will that be enough? :P
We'll see. If everyone hasn't forgotten about it by then, of course.
This is of course his plan, and the reason why he promised to release more information in a month, so that hopefully everyone will forget about his promise. Expect to see a new recruitment thread with zero progress posted in a month, where he desperately hopes I won't just post a link to his first thread and broken promise.
PS Joe: paranoia about releasing information (if that information even exists, which I doubt) is not good for your project. Besides the problem of trying to recruit people with nothing to show, releasing stuff gets people interested in your project. Silence just gets them to forget about you and never bother watching the final result.
Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
So you can take your trolling crap elsewhere thank you very much
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:02:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
Since nobody with decent animation skills would be delusional enough to actually help you, I call bull**** on this. Especially given your laughable attempt at showing off your bridge model (I wonder why you deleted those pictures), which makes me suspect that your "animation" will also be the result of 15 minutes of work.
So yeah, keep posting those empty promises. If you really had anything to show off, you'd just post it and silence your critics. But we all know you don't. -----------
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:16:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
Since nobody with decent animation skills would be delusional enough to actually help you, I call bull**** on this. Especially given your laughable attempt at showing off your bridge model (I wonder why you deleted those pictures), which makes me suspect that your "animation" will also be the result of 15 minutes of work.
So yeah, keep posting those empty promises. If you really had anything to show off, you'd just post it and silence your critics. But we all know you don't.
May I enquire as to why exactly you feel it is your duty to lead a holy crusade against any luls that may come from this? Stop berating my luls damnit Merin. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:18:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
Since nobody with decent animation skills would be delusional enough to actually help you, I call bull**** on this. Especially given your laughable attempt at showing off your bridge model (I wonder why you deleted those pictures), which makes me suspect that your "animation" will also be the result of 15 minutes of work.
So yeah, keep posting those empty promises. If you really had anything to show off, you'd just post it and silence your critics. But we all know you don't.
No actually its just you and your pathetic griefing atempts. Its ALSO very important that your opinion or infact what you say is completely irrelivant
Now stop posting..
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:23:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Blane Xero May I enquire as to why exactly you feel it is your duty to lead a holy crusade against any luls that may come from this? Stop berating my luls damnit Merin.
Two reasons:
1) He's a very good example of how NOT to run a project. Since people like him are far too common (and post the exact same thread begging for help), it's far more productive to hope that maybe at least one person learns something from his mistakes.
2) Honestly, I don't want to wait a month for my luls. The sooner he posts more hilariously bad attempts at making a movie, the better.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Now stop posting..
I'll stop posting when you stop lying.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:25:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Blane Xero May I enquire as to why exactly you feel it is your duty to lead a holy crusade against any luls that may come from this? Stop berating my luls damnit Merin.
Two reasons:
1) He's a very good example of how NOT to run a project. Since people like him are far too common (and post the exact same thread begging for help), it's far more productive to hope that maybe at least one person learns something from his mistakes.
2) Honestly, I don't want to wait a month for my luls. The sooner he posts more hilariously bad attempts at making a movie, the better.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Now stop posting..
I'll stop posting when you stop lying.
oh no my feeling...
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Jaw Long
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:35:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 01:35:46
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
Cool! Give us a preview then, that'd shut her up.
Edit: Failforums can't remember which character I want to post as dammit.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:38:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Jaw Long Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 01:35:46
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Actually merin our recruitement is going swimmingly thank you. We have already completed a number of animation sequences and it is all coming along nicely.
Cool! Give us a preview then, that'd shut her up.
Edit: Failforums can't remember which character I want to post as dammit.
Don't worry i fully intend on doing so.
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Jaw Long
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:45:00 -
[89]
Looking forward to it. Providing it's better than the first samples you posted...
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:07:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jaw Long Looking forward to it. Providing it's better than the first samples you posted...
There are updated links you know.
Granted it far from finished but the bridge isn't our main focal point at this time.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:22:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Granted it far from finished but the bridge isn't our main focal point at this time.
So why did you post it then? Do you not understand the idea of posting only your best work if you're trying to show off your project?
PS: your "updated links" were just as bad. Spending another 15 minutes on your awful bridge is not much of an improvement. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:28:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Granted it far from finished but the bridge isn't our main focal point at this time.
So why did you post it then? Do you not understand the idea of posting only your best work if you're trying to show off your project?
PS: your "updated links" were just as bad. Spending another 15 minutes on your awful bridge is not much of an improvement.
MY GOD its like training a monkey!!
NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK YOU STUPID LEXBIAN!!!
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Jaw Long
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:43:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 02:44:17 She/he/it is right, though...
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:54:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Jaw Long Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 02:44:17 She/he/it is right, though...
What would be the point of requesting help on a project that has already been completed?
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:06:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Jaw Long Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 02:44:17 She/he/it is right, though...
What would be the point of requesting help on a project that has already been completed?
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Posting legitimate progress =/= finishing the entire project.
We aren't complaining that you aren't waiting until you've finished everything to post, we're objecting to the fact that you have shown ZERO effort of your own invested in this project, and stubbornly refuse to do anything that would convince us otherwise. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:13:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Jaw Long Edited by: Jaw Long on 09/08/2010 02:44:17 She/he/it is right, though...
What would be the point of requesting help on a project that has already been completed?
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Posting legitimate progress =/= finishing the entire project.
We aren't complaining that you aren't waiting until you've finished everything to post, we're objecting to the fact that you have shown ZERO effort of your own invested in this project, and stubbornly refuse to do anything that would convince us otherwise.
ACTUALLY its just you thats complaining
"awaiting next essay"
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:39:00 -
[97]
Forget the movie, I could watch this forever! *movie snacks*
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:41:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix ACTUALLY its just you thats complaining
I'm waiting for some actual substance as well, Joe.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:45:00 -
[99]
yeah joe by posting a thread on OOPE you've entered into a legally binding contract to produce results because if you dont your eve online forum reputation blah blah serious business blah blah you people suck
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:07:00 -
[100]
Worse CEO in all New Eden is hardly much of a reputation to start with.
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 09:59:00 -
[101]
Hi Joe,
Can you check your evemails please?
Thanks,
AK EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:17:00 -
[102]
Thread cleaned of off topic and trolling replies.
Please stay on topic.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:50:00 -
[103]
Originally by: CCP Navigator Please stay on topic.
Pointing out the fact that Joe's refusal to post any credible evidence is not only a terrible method of getting people to help him, but also raises serious doubts that his "project" even exists is entirely on-topic. Likewise for pointing out his refusal to even read the constructive criticism he has been offered (as shown by his replies that completely miss the point of that criticism), and other similar posts that you deleted.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix What would be the point of requesting help on a project that has already been completed?
Posting legitimate progress =/= finishing the entire project.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the concept of putting together a short animation sequence/more screenshots/etc as both a means of "selling" your project to the people you want to help you and of generating interest in your movie in general? Nobody is asking for the entire finished product before they believe you, we just want some evidence of YOUR work beyond 15 minutes with the editor (your bridge images that you were so embarrassed of that you removed them from this thread). -----------
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omgevenmoarfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:45:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
1) Convince them that your project is so amazing that they really want to be part of it. For example, if the guy who made Clear Skies asked for some help, he'd probably get it. You, on the other hand, haven't even come close to doing this. All you have is a couple screenshots that look like the result of giving a 10 year old about 5 minutes with a map editor (IOW, like complete ****), and a vague promise that your project will somehow be far better than Clear Skies. In other words, you've done nothing to show that you are any different than any of the countless other people who get a "good" idea and come to a forum begging for help from the people who actually know what they're doing (probably because you are one of them).
So basically you're only willing to "help" if "help" means bandwaggoning on someone elses success? Very contemptible.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: CCP Navigator Please stay on topic.
Pointing out the fact that Joe's refusal to post any credible evidence is not only a terrible method of getting people to help him, but also raises serious doubts that his "project" even exists is entirely on-topic. Likewise for pointing out his refusal to even read the constructive criticism he has been offered (as shown by his replies that completely miss the point of that criticism), and other similar posts that you deleted.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix What would be the point of requesting help on a project that has already been completed?
Posting legitimate progress =/= finishing the entire project.
Is it really that hard for you to understand the concept of putting together a short animation sequence/more screenshots/etc as both a means of "selling" your project to the people you want to help you and of generating interest in your movie in general? Nobody is asking for the entire finished product before they believe you, we just want some evidence of YOUR work beyond 15 minutes with the editor (your bridge images that you were so embarrassed of that you removed them from this thread).
Merin you just had the majority of your posts removed because you where being a ****, do you not get the message?
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:52:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Merin you just had the majority of your posts removed because you where being a ****, do you not get the message?
Again I will state that you obviously are not familiar with Merin
Slade
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:14:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Merin you just had the majority of your posts removed because you where being a ****, do you not get the message?
Again I will state that you obviously are not familiar with Merin
Slade
Painfully familliar.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 21:26:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Merin you just had the majority of your posts removed because you where being a ****, do you not get the message?
No, Joe. I'm afraid you're the one being an ass right now. We're trying to help you by pointing out the weak points in your project, and how to get more people interested. You've decided to bury your head in the sand rather than listen to criticism, which is making this movie seem more and more like nothing other than a deluded pipe dream.
As for the moderation, the mods probably just got tired of you spamming the report button. Wait, that line sounds familiar...
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.09 22:55:00 -
[109]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Merin you just had the majority of your posts removed because you where being a ****, do you not get the message?
No, Joe. I'm afraid you're the one being an ass right now. We're trying to help you by pointing out the weak points in your project, and how to get more people interested. You've decided to bury your head in the sand rather than listen to criticism, which is making this movie seem more and more like nothing other than a deluded pipe dream.
As for the moderation, the mods probably just got tired of you spamming the report button. Wait, that line sounds familiar...
The reason im not taking advice from merin is because "it" doesn't have an idea what "it" is talking about and is just riding threads like "it" always does.
There might have been somthing useful in there somwhere but really, who is going to read that amount of crap!
That is like diving into a sewage system for a ú1 coin, it's just not worth it!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:12:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 09/08/2010 23:13:48
Originally by: Joe Phoenix The reason im not taking advice from merin is because "it" doesn't have an idea what "it" is talking about and is just riding threads like "it" always does.
Yep, clueless again.
As hard as it might be for you to believe, you are not the first person who has made this exact pathetic attempt at begging for help. There is a world outside the EVE forums, you know. I've had plenty of experience dealing with people like you (complete with begging for my help with their awful failure of a project), and guess what: all of them fail, and for the exact reasons I've listed.
Of course it's much easier to just yell "MERIN = TROLL" and ignore anyone who doesn't mindlessly praise you. Following my advice would require you to invest some actual work into your project, and maybe even admit that you were completely wrong. And we can't have that happening!
Quote: There might have been somthing useful in there somwhere but really, who is going to read that amount of crap!
Try looking at my first post in this thread. Of course if reading a few forum posts is such a difficult burden for you, this does not say good things about your ability to handle the vastly more difficult project of making an entire full-length movie.
Quote: That is like diving into a sewage system for a ú1 coin, it's just not worth it!
Translation: you're afraid that I'm right. It's of course much easier to bury your head in the sand and pretend that your project is perfect. -----------
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:17:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix The reason im not taking advice from merin is because "it" doesn't have an idea what "it" is talking about and is just riding threads like "it" always does.
There might have been somthing useful in there somwhere but really, who is going to read that amount of crap!
That is like diving into a sewage system for a ú1 coin, it's just not worth it!
Just... Lol. I'm not sure what to say. Your sheer concentrated stupid is making my head hurt.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.10 00:59:00 -
[112]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix The reason im not taking advice from merin is because "it" doesn't have an idea what "it" is talking about and is just riding threads like "it" always does.
There might have been somthing useful in there somwhere but really, who is going to read that amount of crap!
That is like diving into a sewage system for a ú1 coin, it's just not worth it!
Just... Lol. I'm not sure what to say. Your sheer concentrated stupid is making my head hurt.
Haha.
You know, i bet you are one of merin's alts. That or there must be a seriously good reason why your tongue is so far up her arse...
"going where no man has gone before"!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.10 01:35:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix You know, i bet you are one of merin's alts. That or there must be a seriously good reason why your tongue is so far up her arse...
"going where no man has gone before"!
Might be because she is presenting valid points, and all you can do in response are personal attacks and flaming. She is being far more credible than you are, or ever have been.
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:25:00 -
[114]
Come on Joe quit holding out on us! Surely you have something other than a half finished quater of a bridge tenth of a bridge no bridge, show us one other piece of work and people might actually stop mocking.
Possibly.
This is the Eve forum after all, mocking is what we do here.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.10 17:23:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 09/08/2010 23:13:48
Originally by: Joe Phoenix The reason im not taking advice from merin is because "it" doesn't have an idea what "it" is talking about and is just riding threads like "it" always does.
Yep, clueless again.
As hard as it might be for you to believe, you are not the first person who has made this exact pathetic attempt at begging for help. There is a world outside the EVE forums, you know. I've had plenty of experience dealing with people like you (complete with begging for my help with their awful failure of a project), and guess what: all of them fail, and for the exact reasons I've listed.
Of course it's much easier to just yell "MERIN = TROLL" and ignore anyone who doesn't mindlessly praise you. Following my advice would require you to invest some actual work into your project, and maybe even admit that you were completely wrong. And we can't have that happening!
Quote: There might have been somthing useful in there somwhere but really, who is going to read that amount of crap!
Try looking at my first post in this thread. Of course if reading a few forum posts is such a difficult burden for you, this does not say good things about your ability to handle the vastly more difficult project of making an entire full-length movie.
Quote: That is like diving into a sewage system for a ú1 coin, it's just not worth it!
Translation: you're afraid that I'm right. It's of course much easier to bury your head in the sand and pretend that your project is perfect.
No your totally right, it is much easier to put MERIN = TROLL that list the reason WHY your a troll
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.10 17:37:00 -
[116]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 10/08/2010 17:41:18
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Personal attack removed.Applebabe
That made my day.
And again with the personal attacks, without even attempting to refute anything stated. You look more like a troll than Merin does. Although given the quality of some of the trolls on these boards, it isn't fair to place you into the same category - that would just be insulting the trolls.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.10 17:53:00 -
[117]
oh no my feeling!!!
Merin PLEASE get off this thread and stop using your alts to do your bidding.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:06:00 -
[118]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 10/08/2010 18:09:53
3516349 FD2C2508D34546399B20B2CBDED234F3DDACE6A0F4E6402BBBB9DCE56257F3CE
Cling to that "YOUR AN ALT" excuse, Joe.
Requesting someone check that API and see if I am, indeed, the same person as Merin.
Actually, you know, I don't need to prove anything. Right, Zedrik?
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:25:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix oh no my feeling!!!
Merin PLEASE get off this thread and stop using your alts to do your bidding.
I love that you assume everyone who agrees with Merin is her alt. Has it not occurred to you that they might actually agree with what Merin is saying? ____________________
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:41:00 -
[120]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix oh no my feeling!!!
Merin PLEASE get off this thread and stop using your alts to do your bidding.
I love that you assume everyone who agrees with Merin is her alt. Has it not occurred to you that they might actually agree with what Merin is saying?
This is Joe we're talking about. He has a thoroughly proven tendency to mix up delusional fantasies and reality.
Ye'llo? |
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:55:00 -
[121]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix oh no my feeling!!!
Merin PLEASE get off this thread and stop using your alts to do your bidding.
I love that you assume everyone who agrees with Merin is her alt. Has it not occurred to you that they might actually agree with what Merin is saying?
This is Joe we're talking about. He has a thoroughly proven tendency to mix up delusional fantasies and reality.
ERM, not sure how?
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Brother Papalazaru
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.10 19:23:00 -
[122]
Hi Joe,
This sounds like fun. I could do some modelling/animation for you. I'm not very good but I am free. Send me a message ingame if you need anything.
couple of examples in here - Linkage |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.10 21:55:00 -
[123]
Sure thing brother.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.11 21:35:00 -
[124]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix oh no my feeling!!!
Merin PLEASE get off this thread and stop using your alts to do your bidding.
I love that you assume everyone who agrees with Merin is her alt. Has it not occurred to you that they might actually agree with what Merin is saying?
This is Joe we're talking about. He has a thoroughly proven tendency to mix up delusional fantasies and reality.
I would still like to know what you are on about..
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.11 21:44:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would still like to know what you are on about..
She's talking about the bit where you assume someone is Merin's alt because they agree with her. However, I don't think it's delusional, I think it's a defence mechanism you're using to offhandedly dismiss opinions that run contrary to your own.
But what do I know? I'm obviously another of Merin's alts. ____________________
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.11 21:52:00 -
[126]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would still like to know what you are on about..
She's talking about the bit where you assume someone is Merin's alt because they agree with her. However, I don't think it's delusional, I think it's a defence mechanism you're using to offhandedly dismiss opinions that run contrary to your own.
But what do I know? I'm obviously another of Merin's alts.
Might have somthing to do with the fact that i KNOW supa is merin alt :P
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.11 21:55:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would still like to know what you are on about..
She's talking about the bit where you assume someone is Merin's alt because they agree with her. However, I don't think it's delusional, I think it's a defence mechanism you're using to offhandedly dismiss opinions that run contrary to your own.
But what do I know? I'm obviously another of Merin's alts.
Might have somthing to do with the fact that i KNOW supa is merin alt :P
No no no. You said earlier "I bet you're one of Merin's alts". That means you don't know, you're only guessing. It's only later that you've started asserting it as fact. ____________________
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.11 22:14:00 -
[128]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I would still like to know what you are on about..
She's talking about the bit where you assume someone is Merin's alt because they agree with her. However, I don't think it's delusional, I think it's a defence mechanism you're using to offhandedly dismiss opinions that run contrary to your own.
But what do I know? I'm obviously another of Merin's alts.
Might have somthing to do with the fact that i KNOW supa is merin alt :P
No no no. You said earlier "I bet you're one of Merin's alts". That means you don't know, you're only guessing. It's only later that you've started asserting it as fact.
It is amazing what you can find out through a little digging.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:37:00 -
[129]
Provide proof. I'm rather interested in what you've come up with.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:44:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 11/08/2010 23:44:20
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Provide proof. I'm rather interested in what you've come up with.
Yeah, I am too. It would be awesome if I could show CCP that I own another account full of characters to sell. Who knows, maybe if your main is worth enough I might even share some of the profits with Joe!
Quote: NEXT RECORDING SESSION IS ON FRIDAY THE 20TH OF AUGUST 18:00 SERVER TIME.
Nice stealth edit there. Does this mean you are actually delusional enough to think that EVE voice offers high enough quality to record anything? Did you completely ignore the comments from people about mic quality?
Oh wait, this is you we're talking about, of course you ignored them. -----------
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:37:00 -
[131]
I take it you have no proof then...?
It would have been really cool to find out I'm actually schizophrenic and have an account I don't actually know about.
Ye'llo? |
Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.12 13:50:00 -
[132]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio I take it you have no proof then...?
It would have been really cool to find out I'm actually schizophrenic and have an account I don't actually know about.
I'm getting the impression that you are filled with angst and bitterness.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.12 17:05:00 -
[133]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 12/08/2010 17:07:16
Originally by: Gneeznow I'm getting the impression that you are filled with angst and bitterness.
Yes. Yes I am. I mean, seriously, it would be awesome! I'd discover I have a whole other main worth of stuff!
You can never have too much stuff.
Come on, Joe! I wanna see that proof so I can hopefully claim that Merin account before she can get mine!
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.12 17:52:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: WTFAMILOOKINGAT It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Eve Oracle wants concealed from the public. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. I didn't want to talk about this. I really didn't. But there are three fairly obvious problems with Eve Oracle's inclinations, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity. First, Eve Oracle wants to rid the world of "defective" people. Second, I never thought I would live to see the day that an incompetent wonk like Eve Oracle could manage to construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. And third, the first lies that it told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; Eve Oracle's lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
I will not quibble with Eve Oracle as to whether or not its methods of interpretation obfuscate any attempt to locate responsibility for the consequential decisions of those who have access to the means of power. Instead, I'll simply state that Eve Oracle measures the value of a man by the amount of profit it can realize from him and leave it at that. It is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. Be that as it may, Eve Oracle has announced its intentions to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. While doing so may earn Eve Oracle a gold star from the mush-for-brains serfism crowd, it is not uncommon for it to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole maledicent affair as some great benefit to humanity. I believe it was Hegel who said, "Unless it provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from 'Alice in Wonderland' behave more rationally than Eve Oracle and its hypocritical bootlickers".
I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that Eve Oracle once said that some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before I heard it say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to tell you that Eve Oracle's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in its unilateralism movement will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being utterly unfair, such policies promote replacing Robert's Rules of Order with "facilitated consensus building" at all important meetings. Furthermore, it has made it known that it fully intends to steal our birthrights. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be. I would like to go on, but I do have to keep this letter short. So I'll wrap it up by saying that Eve Oracle fears nothing more than the truth.
You realise rantgenerators are against the rules?
Yer lol, don't think he wrote this.
Fun fact, I got banned after doing the same thing, but with Pandemic Legion instead of Eve Oracle.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.13 21:20:00 -
[135]
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: WTFAMILOOKINGAT It is imperative that I give you the following information, which Eve Oracle wants concealed from the public. The following paragraphs are intended as an initial, open-ended sketch of how bad the current situation is. I didn't want to talk about this. I really didn't. But there are three fairly obvious problems with Eve Oracle's inclinations, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity. First, Eve Oracle wants to rid the world of "defective" people. Second, I never thought I would live to see the day that an incompetent wonk like Eve Oracle could manage to construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat. And third, the first lies that it told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; Eve Oracle's lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
I will not quibble with Eve Oracle as to whether or not its methods of interpretation obfuscate any attempt to locate responsibility for the consequential decisions of those who have access to the means of power. Instead, I'll simply state that Eve Oracle measures the value of a man by the amount of profit it can realize from him and leave it at that. It is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to work together in an atmosphere of friendship and hope. Be that as it may, Eve Oracle has announced its intentions to make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks. While doing so may earn Eve Oracle a gold star from the mush-for-brains serfism crowd, it is not uncommon for it to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole maledicent affair as some great benefit to humanity. I believe it was Hegel who said, "Unless it provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from 'Alice in Wonderland' behave more rationally than Eve Oracle and its hypocritical bootlickers".
I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that Eve Oracle once said that some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before I heard it say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to tell you that Eve Oracle's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in its unilateralism movement will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being utterly unfair, such policies promote replacing Robert's Rules of Order with "facilitated consensus building" at all important meetings. Furthermore, it has made it known that it fully intends to steal our birthrights. If those words don't scare you, nothing will. If they are not a clear warning, I don't know what could be. I would like to go on, but I do have to keep this letter short. So I'll wrap it up by saying that Eve Oracle fears nothing more than the truth.
You realise rantgenerators are against the rules?
Yer lol, don't think he wrote this.
Fun fact, I got banned after doing the same thing, but with Pandemic Legion instead of Eve Oracle.
This is true.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.14 09:05:00 -
[136]
So, Joe, any progress on that proof that me and Merin are the same person?
Originally by: Joe Phoenix It is amazing what you can find out through a little digging.
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Pi'Ell
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Posted - 2010.08.14 14:21:00 -
[137]
Thats obviously the defence mechanism kicking in. Leave him alone. This is like a real character assasination going on here. I don't know why you all ar mean him like you do but every post I read about Joe, wether that be yours or his, just draws me closer. You lot are just so sour and he Joe nice to you all the time.
Wil lremember his name always <3
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.14 15:07:00 -
[138]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 14/08/2010 15:08:01
Originally by: Pi'Ell Thats obviously the defence mechanism kicking in. Leave him alone.
No.
At least, not until he proves himself capable of doing more than ineffectual posturing.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.14 16:17:00 -
[139]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 14/08/2010 15:08:01
Originally by: Pi'Ell Thats obviously the defence mechanism kicking in. Leave him alone.
No.
At least, not until he proves himself capable of doing more than ineffectual posturing.
Well i could post all the kill logs and chat logs i found but why should i? your constant whinning is bumping my thread
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:04:00 -
[140]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 14/08/2010 20:04:04
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Well i could post all the kill logs and chat logs i found but why should i? your constant whinning is bumping my thread
Bumping a thread that highlights your stupidity is always worth the time.
And yet, you're proving my point. What actual reason do you have for withholding proof of your own claims? On top of that I've yet to see any indication that the original point of this thread ("EVE: Oracle") even exists beyond those couple of (very bad) screenshots you posted. Have you done anything since then?
Ye'llo? |
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:16:00 -
[141]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 14/08/2010 20:04:04
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Well i could post all the kill logs and chat logs i found but why should i? your constant whinning is bumping my thread
Bumping a thread that highlights your stupidity is always worth the time.
And yet, you're proving my point. What actual reason do you have for withholding proof of your own claims? On top of that I've yet to see any indication that the original point of this thread ("EVE: Oracle") even exists beyond those couple of (very bad) screenshots you posted. Have you done anything since then?
We have teams working around the clock to get this movie produce including myself. We have now nearly 20 people working on the project with we believe is going to be huge.
And you answer another question, you bumped my post again, thank you for your help
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:33:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix We have teams working around the clock to get this movie produce including myself. We have now nearly 20 people working on the project with we believe is going to be huge.
And you answer another question, you bumped my post again, thank you for your help
Tell you what, get your 20 'staff' to drop a post each. So far I've only seen a single post showing interest in joining in. If anyone else is indeed working on it, I don't blame them for not wanting to be publicly associated with you.
Glad to be 'helping'.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:31:00 -
[143]
Why waste the time? we have constructive things to be doing.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.15 05:19:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Why waste the time? we have constructive things to be doing.
In other words... those 20 people don't actually exist.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.15 06:04:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Why waste the time? we have constructive things to be doing.
It takes, at most, five minutes to post some evidence of work. Stop making excuses.
PS: you really are clueless if you don't see the value of posting some of the work you've been "doing". -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.15 12:50:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Why waste the time? we have constructive things to be doing.
It takes, at most, five minutes to post some evidence of work. Stop making excuses.
PS: you really are clueless if you don't see the value of posting some of the work you've been "doing".
Yes merin we should all bow down to your masterful art of trolling and pretending to know what the **** you are on about.
Seriously get a life and get off this thread, nobody likes you or cares what you have to say.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.15 13:20:00 -
[147]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 15/08/2010 13:22:41 Pff, I'm better at it than Merin, I didn't get moderated.
Be bothered to actually do something and quit talking out your ass, and you just might be worthy of some sort of respect. People have been trying to hammer that thought into your head for a long time now. In fact, everything you've gone through is a direct result of you being unable to shut your mouth, and unwilling to do very simple things that would have made it all go away.
It's the same now. Get these 20 people you apparently have on this and ask them to drop a post in the thread. Show some good progress on a set or two. It's very little to ask.
Alternatively, admit those 20 people don't exist, stop posting and come back when you've got something to attract the help you're going to need.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.15 14:50:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Yes merin we should all bow down to your masterful art of trolling and pretending to know what the **** you are on about.
In other words, you don't have anything and are desperately trying to insult your critics enough that they give up and stop making this fact painfully obvious. Too bad, it isn't going to work.
PS: it's really amusing how you whine about how you're too busy to post some evidence of your progress, but spend far more time than it would take to post those pictures posting an endless list of excuses for why you aren't going to post them.
Quote: Seriously get a life and get off this thread, nobody likes you or cares what you have to say.
Actually, you have that backwards. YOU are the one nobody cares about. You might notice that this thread now consists of nothing but you evading and me destroying your evasions, nobody cares enough about your pathetic little imaginary "movie" to pay attention to you. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.15 15:14:00 -
[149]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 15/08/2010 13:22:41 Pff, I'm better at it than Merin, I didn't get moderated.
Be bothered to actually do something and quit talking out your ass, and you just might be worthy of some sort of respect. People have been trying to hammer that thought into your head for a long time now. In fact, everything you've gone through is a direct result of you being unable to shut your mouth, and unwilling to do very simple things that would have made it all go away.
It's the same now. Get these 20 people you apparently have on this and ask them to drop a post in the thread. Show some good progress on a set or two. It's very little to ask.
Alternatively, admit those 20 people don't exist, stop posting and come back when you've got something to attract the help you're going to need.
my ass? are you calling me a donkey?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.15 15:37:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Yes merin we should all bow down to your masterful art of trolling and pretending to know what the **** you are on about.
In other words, you don't have anything and are desperately trying to insult your critics enough that they give up and stop making this fact painfully obvious. Too bad, it isn't going to work.
PS: it's really amusing how you whine about how you're to busy to post some evidence of your progress, but spend far more time than it would take to post those pictures posting an endless list of excuses for why you aren't going to post them.
Quote: Seriously get a life and get off this thread, nobody likes you or cares what you have to say.
Actually, you have that backwards. YOU are the one nobody cares about. You might notice that this thread now consists of nothing but you evading and me destroying your evasions, nobody cares enough about your pathetic little imaginary "movie" to pay attention to you.
HAHAHA I am not going to name the 1000 reasons why you've just made an arse out of yourself but you seem to have delusion of adequacy so let me just straighten things out for you.
Joe phoenix - Important and pritty damn awesome guy, running an alliance/corp and filming a successful animated movie, known across eve for a multitude of reasons. 1 in 10 of the forum post are actually about or resolve around him.
Merin Ryskin - useless pathetic troll who sculks around destroying threads while ****ing over manga ****.
To cut this short merin, Nobody cares about you, I don't care about you, the thread readers don't care about you, my film crew don't care about you, your own corp doesn't care about you, NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU!!
So for the love of god i know you will respond to this post because you are so buthurt that you will continue to try to drive this thread into the ground by being an arse but please don't. PS i will not read what you write beucase (here comes the kicker) I DON'T CARE!
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Drunken Noodles
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Posted - 2010.08.16 00:54:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Drunken Noodles on 16/08/2010 00:56:36 Edited by: Drunken Noodles on 16/08/2010 00:54:23 not to go and burst anyones precious ego-bubble, but ive got the script in my hand. its, intense. much more in-depth out than the clear skies script (however, that was good as well.)
want a snippet of it? too bad. maybe, just maybe, we will share our successful recording sessions.
but until the whiners grow up, and provide constructive critisism (what merin has been posting is just total flame, ignoring everything that has been said and is solely focusing on joe as a person; knocking ability, credibility, may have even spotted a RL attack against his sociability), we may provide some contect to receive said criticism, and thus improve our project.
in other words, were gettin this **** done; while you sit there playing wow, flaming forums. g'day.
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Yleryn Myrst
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Posted - 2010.08.16 01:00:00 -
[152]
@ Drunken, you make me so nervous with anticipation :)
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:02:00 -
[153]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 16/08/2010 03:06:33 Having an alt helping is real impressive, Joe... real impressive.
Where's the other 19?
Originally by: Joe phoenix Joe phoenix - Self-important and pretty damn ******ed guy, running a fail alliance/corp and filming an imaginary animated movie, known across eve as the worst CEO in all New Eden. 1 in 10000 of the forum post are actually about or resolve around how much he fails.
FYP.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:38:00 -
[154]
Trolling is not allowed.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:01:00 -
[155]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe Trolling is not allowed.
Thanks for the clear up.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:58:00 -
[156]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe Trolling is not allowed.
Creating a fake film (and in the process claiming to be 10x better than a very popular EVE film), asking for people to help with the fake film (IOW, waste their time), accusing all of his critics of being my alts, etc, that is all trolling.
Pointing out all of these offenses along with the fact that the person involved spends more time making up excuses for why he can't show any evidence of anything than it would take to post some progress images is NOT trolling.
Please get this right and stop deleting legitimate criticism of Joe just because he whines and cries too much. In fact, the forums would be much better off if you gave him a long forum ban for his trolling. -----------
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:15:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 16/08/2010 20:15:27
Originally by: Joe Phoenix (waits for merins post to be removed again!)
You know, it's really hilarious how you were whining and crying about me "spamming the report button" when your duplicate threads were locked, but YOU are the one openly using the report button to silence your critics.
Of course it's always easier to report criticism than to actually post evidence that your "film" even exists. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:20:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 16/08/2010 20:15:27
Originally by: Joe Phoenix (waits for merins post to be removed again!)
You know, it's really hilarious how you were whining and crying about me "spamming the report button" when your duplicate threads were locked, but YOU are the one openly using the report button to silence your critics.
Of course it's always easier to report criticism than to actually post evidence that your "film" even exists.
*waiting for merins post removal again*
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:41:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix *waiting for merins post removal again*
Right on schedule. Glad to know that you have so little shame that you proudly admit to abusing the report function to silence your critics. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:50:00 -
[160]
Its not abuse, it is what the report button was intended for. To remove pointless trolls from legit threads.
*waiting for post to be removed*
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:09:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix To remove pointless trolls
Legitimate criticism is not pointless trolling. If you don't like the criticism you are getting, perhaps you should think about making some changes?
Quote: from legit threads.
Bull****. Your "movie" is a lie, and every time you spend more effort making excuses than it would take to actually post something, it just proves this fact. And that's not even getting into your obvious trolling in other threads. -----------
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:35:00 -
[162]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 16/08/2010 21:35:44
Originally by: Joe Phoenix *waiting for post to be removed*
*waits for Joe to recieve forum ban for post reporting abuse*
On that note, I wonder how long it will be before the thread gets locked for rampant trolling.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:36:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix To remove pointless trolls
Legitimate criticism is not pointless trolling. If you don't like the criticism you are getting, perhaps you should think about making some changes?
Quote: from legit threads.
Bull****. Your "movie" is a lie, and every time you spend more effort making excuses than it would take to actually post something, it just proves this fact. And that's not even getting into your obvious trolling in other threads.
Only in your small mind Merin.
*waiting for post to be removed*.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:10:00 -
[164]
No matter how many times you spam the report button on my posts, it will not change the fact that:
1) Your "movie" is a lie, a fact which you confirm every time you spend more time making excuses than posting some evidence of your work.
2) Silencing your critics is NOT a legitimate use of the report function, nor is legitimate criticism "trolling". Instead, it is the desperate tactic of a liar who knows he has been defeated. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:32:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin No matter how many times you spam the report button on my posts, it will not change the fact that:
1) Your "movie" is a lie, a fact which you confirm every time you spend more time making excuses than posting some evidence of your work.
2) Silencing your critics is NOT a legitimate use of the report function, nor is legitimate criticism "trolling". Instead, it is the desperate tactic of a liar who knows he has been defeated.
Which brings us back to the point that you know nothing and your opinion is irrelivant.
* waiting for even MORE trolling to be removed*
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:48:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Barakkus on 16/08/2010 22:48:31 SupaKudoRio = Merin Ryskin = Lana Torrin = Lady Spank = Ran Khanon = Lexa Hellfury = Zedrik Cayne = Joe Phoenix...
...doesn't take a genius to figure that one out...
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.16 23:21:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Barakkus Edited by: Barakkus on 16/08/2010 22:48:31 SupaKudoRio = Merin Ryskin = Lana Torrin = Lady Spank = Ran Khanon = Lexa Hellfury = Zedrik Cayne = Joe Phoenix...
...doesn't take a genius to figure that one out...
Nearly right, it doesn't take a genius to come to that conclusion.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.16 23:54:00 -
[168]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 16/08/2010 23:55:16
Originally by: Barakkus Edited by: Barakkus on 16/08/2010 22:48:31 SupaKudoRio = Merin Ryskin = Lana Torrin = Lady Spank = Ran Khanon = Lexa Hellfury = Zedrik Cayne = Joe Phoenix...
...doesn't take a genius to figure that one out...
Dammit, you got us... er... me.
I'll take this opportunity to say that this project is indeed a complete fabrication.
Also I'm quitting EVE, send me isk on this character and I'll return ten times the amount.
Edit: For the less bright (i.e. Joe), that was sarcasm.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:04:00 -
[169]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 16/08/2010 23:55:16
Originally by: Barakkus Edited by: Barakkus on 16/08/2010 22:48:31 SupaKudoRio = Merin Ryskin = Lana Torrin = Lady Spank = Ran Khanon = Lexa Hellfury = Zedrik Cayne = Joe Phoenix...
...doesn't take a genius to figure that one out...
Dammit, you got us... er... me.
I'll take this opportunity to say that this project is indeed a complete fabrication.
Also I'm quitting EVE, send me isk on this character and I'll return ten times the amount.
Edit: For the less bright (i.e. Joe), that was sarcasm.
Oh how will i ever deal with your terribly hurtful insult...
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:16:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Oh how will i ever deal with your terribly hurtful insult...
Spam the report button?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:30:00 -
[171]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Oh how will i ever deal with your terribly hurtful insult...
Spam the report button?
Yer that might work.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.17 17:40:00 -
[172]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 17/08/2010 17:42:27
Originally by: Merin Ryskin No matter how many times you spam the report button on my posts, it will not change the fact that:
1) Your "movie" is a lie, a fact which you confirm every time you spend more time making excuses than posting some evidence of your work.
2) Silencing your critics is NOT a legitimate use of the report function, nor is legitimate criticism "trolling".
Trolling comment removed - Adida
Joe, spam more, the mods appear to have missed a bit.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.17 17:45:00 -
[173]
God these mods are so lazy these days!
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.18 00:32:00 -
[174]
Right now that all the trolls have been killed off, we can get back to business.
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Joel Bird'on'fire
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Posted - 2010.08.18 14:01:00 -
[175]
confirming that others will do all the work while i take the credit
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.18 15:48:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Joel Bird'on'fire confirming that others will do all the work while i take the credit
Why would you take any of the credit
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.18 17:20:00 -
[177]
Am I the only one who reads the title and thinks the thread is about database solutions? PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.18 17:38:00 -
[178]
Yes.
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.08.18 22:43:00 -
[179]
Originally by: FunzzeR Am I the only one who reads the title and thinks the thread is about database solutions?
In RL I work exclusively with Oracle software so yes, I did too.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 10:31:00 -
[180]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 10:36:39
Originally by: FunzzeR Am I the only one who reads the title and thinks the thread is about database solutions?
I did, actually. "Oracle...? But EVE runs with a SQL-or-something database, doesn't it?" Then I read the OP and almost did myself an injury from laughing.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Right now that all the trolls have been killed off, we can get back to business.
You had no business in the first place.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 11:41:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 11:41:34 She got tired of being owned, you should too, that is if you are infact not the same person, which i dout.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 12:17:00 -
[182]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 12:17:30
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 11:41:34 She got tired of being owned, you should too, that is if you are infact not the same person, which i dout.
You really are awfully deluded, aren't you?
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Joel Bird'on'fire
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Posted - 2010.08.19 13:36:00 -
[183]
You really are awfully deluded, aren't you?
Confirming i am deluded beyond all help http://yfrog.com/m954857530j |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 13:45:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Joel Bird'on'fire
You really are awfully deluded, aren't you?
Confirming i am deluded beyond all help
You should get that checked out.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:00:00 -
[185]
Edited by: edtheshed on 19/08/2010 14:30:48 haha this thread is so win
now the thread is about cats!
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:26:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix dout.
Doubt. PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:35:00 -
[187]
Originally by: FunzzeR
Originally by: Joe Phoenix dout.
Doubt.
amazing.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:51:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
amazing.
Amazing.
You would be astonished at how quickly trolls would disappear with proper spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 14:58:00 -
[189]
Originally by: FunzzeR
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
amazing.
Amazing.
You would be astonished at how quickly trolls would disappear with proper spelling, capitalization, and punctuation.
You really care that much about lazy typing?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 16:28:00 -
[190]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 16:36:46 EVE is serious business. This is EVE's forum. Ergo, posting here is also serious business.
Be sure to use proper spelling and grammar, as befits serious business.
Seriously.
Funz has a point, making sure your posts are well written keeps the lesser trolls away. I don't think that'll be enough to cure this thread though.
Originally by: edtheshed now the thread is about cats!
A relative of mine has a cute little kitten. She's so adorable!
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 18:19:00 -
[191]
Originally by: edtheshed Edited by: edtheshed on 19/08/2010 14:30:48 haha this thread is so win
now the thread is about cats!
Making random comments will take you many places..
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:05:00 -
[192]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
EVE is serious business. This is EVE's forum. Ergo, posting here is also serious business.
So that's why so serious.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:08:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Making random comments will take you many places..
like this thread
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:18:00 -
[194]
Trolls are attracted to popular places.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:18:00 -
[195]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 19:26:37
Originally by: Miriam Letisse So that's why so serious.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Trolls are attracted to popular places.
A turd (this thread) attracts a lot of flies (trolls) too. I guess those are popular in your eyes as well?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:28:00 -
[196]
You do realise you just called yourself a turd and a flies right? (metaphorically, if you know what that means).
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:46:00 -
[197]
Edited by: FunzzeR on 19/08/2010 19:46:30
Originally by: Joe Phoenix flie
Would you perchance mean "fly"? I have no idea what a "flie" is...
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:54:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 19:30:20 You do realise you just called yourself a turd and a flie right? (metaphorically, if you know what that means).
If not i can always supply a link.
I fail to see how I am a thread (turd). Neither do I see how I am a troll (fly).
Thanks for the laugh, but really, I'd rather go along with the moderators' opinion on the definition of 'troll' than yours. By their standards, I appear not to be.
By all means, though, post that link! I'm interested to see how you came to that conclusion. Same as how I am curious about how you figured I am the same person as Merin (still waiting for that evidence you're apparently withholding, or - more likely - don't have).
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:06:00 -
[199]
ok im sorry for trolling abit back ther
just that this thread makes me laugh cuz your'e tryin to make a serious post, and for reasons i don't know(im not goin to read the whole thread), it has attracted alot negativity
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:17:00 -
[200]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 20:18:03
Originally by: edtheshed for reasons i don't know(im not goin to read the whole thread), it has attracted alot negativity
Have a peek at this. That should explain it well enough. Joe has a, uh... "reputation". (Start from "The Next Investigation" - beware that it is a long read to get the entire story.)
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 21:28:00 -
[201]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Have a peek at this. That should explain it well enough. Joe has a, uh... "reputation". (Start from "The Next Investigation" - beware that it is a long read to get the entire story.)
Edit: TLDR (but still a bit on the long side).
haha that is wicked, impressed by the effort put in by zedrick
i need to read more C&P
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 21:33:00 -
[202]
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 21:33:20 What he doesn't tell you is how the story ends
Edit.
(FYI, 95% of that link is bull****).
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 21:44:00 -
[203]
orly? so he just made up 5 months of text logs?
sounds like ur full of ****
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 21:45:00 -
[204]
Lisson dude i don't care if you are thick enough to believe him or not, all i really care about is the fact that i won and he didn't.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:06:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Lisson dude i don't care if you are thick enough to believe him or not, all i really care about is the fact that i won and he didn't.
I'm afraid you haven't won, Joe. You didn't 'lose', despite rampant failure on your part, but you've never came anywhere near winning.
Your reputation is irreparably ruined. Only people who haven't heard of you (and more do each day as you continue to run your mouth) put any value in your opinions, or even you as a person. You're little more than a running joke.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:33:00 -
[206]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 22:21:47
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Lisson dude i don't care if you are thick enough to believe him or not, all i really care about is the fact that i won and he didn't.
I'm afraid you haven't won, Joe. You didn't 'lose', despite rampant failure on your part, but you've never came anywhere near winning.
Your reputation is irreparably ruined. Only people who haven't heard of you (and more do each day as you continue to run your mouth) put any value in your opinions, or even you as a person. You're little more than a running joke. (Edit: In game, of course.)
Ergh excuse me miss *i'm not very important so i troll thread*, you know nothing of the war niether do you know what REALLY happened. I lost alot of good friends (they quiet game because of that ****) and after all that we WON by holding onto what is ours and not letting others take it away from us. After 8 months of fighting we WON. So you can take your ******ed little arse back to whatever ****hole you come from and overdose on nerophen.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:52:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 19/08/2010 22:53:26
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I lost alot of good friends (they quiet game because of that ****)
Good. Maybe you should follow their example and quit as well? After all, according to you, EVE is dying. Why would you want to be a part of a dying game?
Quote: and after all that we WON by holding onto what is ours and not letting others take it away from us. After 8 months of fighting we WON.
Only because EVE doesn't have a way to completely destroy a corp or force a player to quit the game, and there are always plenty of clueless newbies in the recruitment channel who will join any corp that will take them. You only "won" in the sense that after eight months of humiliating you, everyone got tired of it and moved on to more interesting things. Like watching paint dry.
Of course, for the record:
1) I hated you and killed you before Zedrik made it popular. He just happens to have more patience for dealing with lame WCS-abusers, while I was willing to settle for a short and entertaining war.
and
2) Your fraud of a "movie" is so pathetic that I would have flamed you for it no matter who you are. The fact that you're the worst CEO in EVE just makes it even more entertaining. -----------
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Rollin Forties
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:52:00 -
[208]
Anyone can "win" a war in Eve by never undocking, stop thinking you did something special. Far from it.
The two-pronged approach of also fitting warp stabs is also nothing special.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:54:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ergh excuse me miss *i'm not very important so i troll thread*, you know nothing of the war niether do you know what REALLY happened. I lost alot of good friends (they quiet game because of that ****) and after all that we WON by holding onto what is ours and not letting others take it away from us. After 8 months of fighting we WON. So you can take your ******ed little arse back to whatever ****hole you come from and overdose on nerophen.
Tsk tsk, such foul language.
I'm sorry, did I touch a nerve? Honestly, you only have yourself to blame for... well, just about everything. It was all so simple to avoid. Those friends that quit, though; are you sure they didn't just roll new characters to cleanse themselves of their association with you?
Again, you haven't won. No matter how much you say it, it simply isn't true. Zeddy may not have taken your corp away from you, but what he left behind ensures that you will never be left alone. Simply because you are such a soft, vulnerable target that makes the cutest whining noises when squished.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:07:00 -
[210]
Funny you speak as if zedrik cayne still ownes his corp or has any respect from any players ANYWHERE. Hell he hasn't eve posted a comment on this forum since his arse beating.
PS, winning an 8 month war againest superior forces DOES make you special, don't be upset just because you're not.
Oh and merin, you want to check your logs it was a HAC and a CARRIER vs a t1 fitted drake and it still took you 10 minutes, so don't be so chuffed with your troll arsed self.
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Rollin Forties
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:13:00 -
[211]
No, the word is 'pigheaded'. I think most of us are just fine not being special in the joe way
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:16:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Rollin Forties Anyone can "win" a war in Eve by never undocking, stop thinking you did something special. Far from it.
The two-pronged approach of also fitting warp stabs is also nothing special.
By the way Einstein you need two of them for it to work. Used them once and you little children whine about it for years.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:23:00 -
[213]
Keep talking Joe, I think I might break out some replica IEEE snacks.
Zedrik holds far more respect than you do, even after moving on to pursue his own goals. Not only that, but you were getting your backside handed to you, repeatedly, by... a five-man corp, at most? Yes, you should indeed feel special that you managed to hold out a whole eight months under such impossible odds. As the man said himself, if there was a mechanic in place to force you out of the CEO chair, it would have been used with great prejudice mere weeks into the hostilities.
For your information though, there have been many, many corps before that have held their ground against wars as long as that and even longer. Some even fought back and eventually got a true victory, forcing their enemies to retract the war early and ending with their ISK-wise K:D ratio on a very positive note.
Have you done this? No. The best you've been able to do is fit warp core stabs and run away. Sometimes still dying a horrid death in your extremely poorly fit ships. You've been losing, badly, throughout the war and, quite frankly, Zeddy probably stopped because he had killed you so much that it was simply just getting boring.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:24:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 23:24:43 8 corps. God you are stupid, you can't even get troll facts right.
OH FYI, he LOST his corp, he didn't leave.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:40:00 -
[215]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 19/08/2010 23:42:10
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 19/08/2010 23:24:43 8 corps. God you are stupid, you can't even get troll facts right.
OH FYI, he LOST his corp, he didn't leave.
Oh, I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget exactly who I'm talking to, and don't assume the absolute worst possible self-inflicted situation. 8 wars at once... You had a real knack for making enemies. You still do by the sounds of things.
And a known troll is always a great source of information, right? I'm inclined to believe he handed over the corporation willingly as he left.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:49:00 -
[216]
Quote: PS, winning an 8 month war againest superior forces DOES make you special, don't be upset just because you're not.
You didn't win. The other side got tired of killing you and moved on to more interesting things.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Oh and merin, you want to check your logs it was a HAC and a CARRIER vs a t1 fitted drake and it still took you 10 minutes, so don't be so chuffed with your troll arsed self.
Lol.
No, it was an Ishkur (an AF, not a HAC) and a Chimera, and I only killed you with the Chimera because I thought it would be funny to hotdrop your failDrake. And no, it did not take 10 minutes to kill you.
But I guess it's easier to lie about your losses than to actually post some evidence that your "movie" is anything more than a pathetic attempt at trolling the forums? -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.19 23:55:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Quote: PS, winning an 8 month war againest superior forces DOES make you special, don't be upset just because you're not.
You didn't win. The other side got tired of killing you and moved on to more interesting things.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Oh and merin, you want to check your logs it was a HAC and a CARRIER vs a t1 fitted drake and it still took you 10 minutes, so don't be so chuffed with your troll arsed self.
Lol.
No, it was an Ishkur (an AF, not a HAC) and a Chimera, and I only killed you with the Chimera because I thought it would be funny to hotdrop your failDrake. And no, it did not take 10 minutes to kill you.
But I guess it's easier to lie about your losses than to actually post some evidence that your "movie" is anything more than a pathetic attempt at trolling the forums?
Now you see i don't like supa, but at least he can somtimes be funny, your just a bitter arsed *****.
And no, you HAD to use a carrier because you FAIL!!!
And supa i did it so i could fight all the griefer corps ar once.
If i was surrounded, i could attack in any direction!!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:00:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And no, you HAD to use a carrier because you FAIL!!!
So why did I send you running away in Jita (you know, highsec, where carriers can't go)? Could it possibly be because I blew away half the shields on your WCS-ed Drake before you could even align for warp?
Though I really find it amusing how hotdropping you, killing you, and then podding you because you're too stupid to warp your pod away counts as "failing". Sounds like a pretty successful gank to me.
Quote: If i was surrounded, i could fit wcs and run away in any direction
Fixed your post.
PS: still waiting for you to post some proof that your "movie" even exists. Or should we consider this change of subject your concession that it's all a fraud? -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:01:00 -
[219]
If you're surrounded you can't run away you ******!
And yes i didn't hang out in low-sec because of your terrible fail fitted carrier.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:06:00 -
[220]
ok joe, ill be honest here,
even if what you said is true about those chat logs being 95% made up, your not exactly painting a picture of happiness in this thread are you.
pretty much my only perception of you is from this thread, piece of advice, calm the **** down! you only make it worse with your fail attempts at trashtalking
or just carry on, i mean it is quite entertaining watchin you rage
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:08:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix If you're surrounded you can't run away you ******!
With as many WCS as you fit, sure you can.
Quote: And yes i didn't hang out in low-sec because of your terrible fail fitted carrier.
See, "failfit" is only a term you can use if you beat your enemy and get to see what he was fitted with. Compare the two:
I killed your Drake, and can therefore call it a failfit (because it was). Likewise, I can call your other Drake a failfit because you had at least 3x WCS fitted when you ran away like a little girl (after threatening to kill me).
You did not kill my Chimera, have no clue what I fitted it with, and therefore can not call it a failfit.
See a difference here?
PS: still waiting for you to post some proof that your "movie" even exists. Or should we consider this change of subject your concession that it's all a fraud? -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:11:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix If you're surrounded you can't run away you ******!
With as many WCS as you fit, sure you can.
Quote: And yes i didn't hang out in low-sec because of your terrible fail fitted carrier.
See, "failfit" is only a term you can use if you beat your enemy and get to see what he was fitted with. Compare the two:
I killed your Drake, and can therefore call it a failfit (because it was). Likewise, I can call your other Drake a failfit because you had at least 3x WCS fitted when you ran away like a little girl (after threatening to kill me).
You did not kill my Chimera, have no clue what I fitted it with, and therefore can not call it a failfit.
See a difference here?
PS: still waiting for you to post some proof that your "movie" even exists. Or should we consider this change of subject your concession that it's all a fraud?
Oh no you killed my drake.. yawn.
And no WCSs do not always work, again you FAIL!
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Rollin Forties
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:19:00 -
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So this movie will be about heroically sitting in Jita 4-4 and dieing to HICs in WCS fitted Drakes?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:21:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Rollin Forties So this movie will be about heroically sitting in Jita 4-4 and dieing to HICs in WCS fitted Drakes?
A, I never allowed myself to be camped like a scared animal.
B, What makes you think it's about me?
C, Who the **** are you?
D, i don't really care.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:27:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix A, I never allowed myself to be camped like a scared animal.
Except for that time when you threatened to kill me if I came anywhere near you, and then refused to undock when I pointed out the fact that I was sitting right outside your station. But I guess that doesn't count because you eventually fit a full rack of WCS and ran away like a little girl?
And you know, I bet the other "griefers" did their share of camping you in station, but I'll let them speak for themselves.
Quote: B, What makes you think it's about me?
Because you have such a massive narcissism problem that it has to be about you?
Of course this assumes that your "movie" even exists. Since the thread about your "movie" is now about your failDrakes and how you suck at being a CEO, and you refuse to post any evidence of work on this "movie" to stop the hijack... -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:29:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix A, I never allowed myself to be camped like a scared animal.
Except for that time when you threatened to kill me if I came anywhere near you, and then refused to undock when I pointed out the fact that I was sitting right outside your station. But I guess that doesn't count because you eventually fit a full rack of WCS and ran away like a little girl?
And you know, I bet the other "griefers" did their share of camping you in station, but I'll let them speak for themselves.
Quote: B, What makes you think it's about me?
Because you have such a massive narcissism problem that it has to be about you?
Of course this assumes that your "movie" even exists. Since the thread about your "movie" is now about your failDrakes and how you suck at being a CEO, and you refuse to post any evidence of work on this "movie" to stop the hijack...
Merin this "fake" only existes in your very small mind which is having a massive problem keeping this idea alive and controling you accelerator nerve and breathing.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:31:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 20/08/2010 00:31:27
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Merin this "fake" only existes in your very small mind which is having a massive problem keeping this idea alive and controling you accelerator nerve and breathing.
So why don't you take five minutes and prove us all wrong with some screenshots/videos/etc of your work so far?
The only reason you'd spend so much time making up excuses for why you can't is if you have nothing to show. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:44:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 20/08/2010 00:31:27
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Merin this "fake" only existes in your very small mind which is having a massive problem keeping this idea alive and controling you accelerator nerve and breathing.
So why don't you take five minutes and prove us all wrong with some screenshots/videos/etc of your work so far?
The only reason you'd spend so much time making up excuses for why you can't is if you have nothing to show.
Well you obviously know nothing about 3D design.
Oh btw the WORST CEO thing is just ****ing stupid ok? your attempts at griefing is pointless and you make yourself look stupid.
I mean even more stupid..
I mean you know, less then stupid...
Like somone who licks a frozen lamp post, only it's not funny.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:49:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Well you obviously know nothing about 3D design.
I know more than you, and I believe I demonstrated this fact when an hour of my 3d work was enough to get you to delete your "progress" screenshots in shame.
So fine, maybe they're not finished work. Show us some WIP shots (they don't even have to be rendered, screenshots from your modeling program will be just fine). Show us some concept art. Show us anything.
Oh, and keep flaming me instead of posting some evidence that your "movie" exists. Your desperation is just beautiful. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:52:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Well you obviously know nothing about 3D design.
I know more than you, and I believe I demonstrated this fact when an hour of my 3d work was enough to get you to delete your "progress" screenshots in shame.
So fine, maybe they're not finished work. Show us some WIP shots (they don't even have to be rendered, screenshots from your modeling program will be just fine). Show us some concept art. Show us anything.
Oh, and keep flaming me instead of posting some evidence that your "movie" exists. Your desperation is just beautiful.
Christ can you not wait 2 weeks for our first 5 minute trailer to come out?
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Rollin Forties
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:03:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Well you obviously know nothing about 3D design.
I know more than you, and I believe I demonstrated this fact when an hour of my 3d work was enough to get you to delete your "progress" screenshots in shame.
So fine, maybe they're not finished work. Show us some WIP shots (they don't even have to be rendered, screenshots from your modeling program will be just fine). Show us some concept art. Show us anything.
Oh, and keep flaming me instead of posting some evidence that your "movie" exists. Your desperation is just beautiful.
Christ can you not wait 2 weeks for our first 5 minute trailer to come out?
no, it's going to be hilarious I want to see it now
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:06:00 -
[232]
You want to be a griefer troll little boy? then get the **** off my thread.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:13:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix You want to be a griefer troll little boy? then get the **** off my thread.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:14:00 -
[234]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix You want to be a griefer troll little boy? then get the **** off my thread.
See at least she has some slight plesentries about her (if she is infact not merin), you're just being a ****.
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Rollin Forties
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:22:00 -
[235]
You are under a misconception of what griefing is.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:25:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
See at least she has some slight plesentries about her (if she is infact not merin), you're just being a ****.
Oh, whoops, I forgot who I was talking to. You probably missed the link. Here is is again for you.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:36:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Rollin Forties You are under a misconception of what griefing is.
THIS
FROM A GUY
WHO CAN'T FIX HIM AVATAR PICTURE!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:43:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 20/08/2010 01:43:52
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Also made by somone who might (unsure of his work schedule) be involved in oracle.
If by "involved", you mean "he deleted the email you sent him begging for help", then yes, he will be involved.
edit: wait, by that standard, I'm involved with your "movie". Ugh. Now I feel dirty... -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:44:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Also made by somone who might (unsure of his work schedule) be involved in oracle.
If by "involved", you mean "he deleted the email you sent him begging for help", then yes, he will be involved.
And again you FAIL!
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 01:49:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Also made by somone who might (unsure of his work schedule) be involved in oracle.
If by "involved", you mean "he deleted the email you sent him begging for help", then yes, he will be involved.
And again you FAIL!
Keep telling yourself that.
Of course it's much easier to just spam "you fail" than to post some evidence that your "movie" exists outside of your imagination. -----------
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Joel Bird'on'fire
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Posted - 2010.08.20 02:22:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Also made by somone who might (unsure of his work schedule) be involved in oracle.
If by "involved", you mean "he deleted the email you sent him begging for help", then yes, he will be involved.
And again you FAIL!
Confirming that in the world of Joe anyone who makes him feel inadequte by demonstrating greater skill or knowedge in any field must be wrong.
Confirming that in the world of Joe spamming " you FAIL! " is a defence mechanism to the above.
Confirming that in the world of Joe swearing is cool and makes him look both big and clever.
Also confirming in the world of Joe "Recommened for you" youtube clips will be belived to show evidence of progress
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2010.08.20 03:49:00 -
[242]
Off-topic and trolling posts have been removed.
Please keep your post on topic and in a civil manner.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Zofe Stormcaller
Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.08.20 08:46:00 -
[243]
delete from TRANQUILITY where BUG like %LAG%
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.08.20 09:51:00 -
[244]
Joe,
Check your evemails - again.
AK EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 09:53:00 -
[245]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe Please keep your post on topic
That's a bit hard to do; the topic itself doesn't appear to exist.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 14:51:00 -
[246]
Ofcourse it does, it is hard to see through the trolling but it is there.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 15:03:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Ofcourse it does, it is hard to see through the trolling but it is there.
The claims are there, sure. But you're refusing to show anything you've done (aside from a set that looks like you spent ten minutes on). You're doing nothing but throwing around excuse after excuse in the hopes that everyone will go away.
Post some actual progress and the trolling will stop, it's that easy.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 15:47:00 -
[248]
The last thing i want is that.
And i have already told you the 5 minute trailer will be done in 2 weeks, until then just sit on your hands.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 16:13:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix The last thing i want is that.
And i have already told you the 5 minute trailer will be done in 2 weeks, until then just sit on your hands.
For your sake, I hope it isn't as terrible as the single other thing you've shown so far.
Though, a little bit of advice... make that trailer one minute long, not five. There's a very good reason commercial film studios keep the length of their trailers down.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 17:39:00 -
[250]
Only thing is to make a traditional trailer we would need scenes from the majority of the film which will take much longer. but maybe you're right.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 18:49:00 -
[251]
Joe, don't you ever learn?
Promising a trailer in two weeks is a terrible idea. Two weeks is short enough that we'll all still remember your promise, especially since you keep bumping your thread to remind us. And then what are you going to do when you can't just quietly ignore the deadline? Come up with more excuses for us to laugh at?
What you should have done is promise a trailer in the distant future, long enough for everyone to have forgotten about it by the time the deadline arrives. Say, six months from now, or maybe even longer just to be sure. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 19:05:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Joe, don't you ever learn?
Promising a trailer in two weeks is a terrible idea. Two weeks is short enough that we'll all still remember your promise, especially since you keep bumping your thread to remind us. And then what are you going to do when you can't just quietly ignore the deadline? Come up with more excuses for us to laugh at?
What you should have done is promise a trailer in the distant future, long enough for everyone to have forgotten about it by the time the deadline arrives. Say, six months from now, or maybe even longer just to be sure.
Yes but outside merin world, 2 weeks is more then enough.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 19:13:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Yes but outside merin world, 2 weeks is more then enough.
So you admit that you're only promising a trailer so that everyone will forget about your little "project" and you can quietly disappear and pretend it all never happened?
At least you finally admit that you're nothing more than a troll. -----------
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.20 20:09:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Only thing is to make a traditional trailer we would need scenes from the majority of the film which will take much longer. but maybe you're right.
This is a monumental occasion.
I won't push my luck and risk you suddenly disregarding that advice; I'll be back in two weeks, don't disappoint. *marks calendar*
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 21:18:00 -
[255]
First session was a massive success. Thank you everyone who attended.
Next session will be on Saturday the 28th at 20:00 eve time.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.08.20 21:24:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Vogue on 20/08/2010 21:24:53 I would like to contribute. I am English with a West Midlands accent. I can effect a nice burr on it. Its like a deep mono tone. If you give me some script or I could make something up and record it to mp3 and email it.
Up to you.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.20 21:37:00 -
[257]
Thank i'll contact you in game.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.22 22:15:00 -
[258]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Only thing is to make a traditional trailer we would need scenes from the majority of the film which will take much longer. but maybe you're right.
This is a monumental occasion.
I won't push my luck and risk you suddenly disregarding that advice; I'll be back in two weeks, don't disappoint. *marks calendar*
hmm
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Oricalchum
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Posted - 2010.08.23 16:30:00 -
[259]
Derp
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:48:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Vogue Edited by: Vogue on 20/08/2010 21:24:53 I would like to contribute. I am English with a West Midlands accent. I can effect a nice burr on it. Its like a deep mono tone. If you give me some script or I could make something up and record it to mp3 and email it.
Up to you.
Sent you a message.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:40:00 -
[261]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Only thing is to make a traditional trailer we would need scenes from the majority of the film which will take much longer. but maybe you're right.
This is a monumental occasion.
I won't push my luck and risk you suddenly disregarding that advice; I'll be back in two weeks, don't disappoint. *marks calendar*
Well, it's been two weeks. Give or take a few hours. Lets see what you've accomplished!
Ye'llo? |
Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:52:00 -
[262]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Well, it's been two weeks. Give or take a few hours. Lets see what you've accomplished!
You sure don't waste any time do you.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:30:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse You sure don't waste any time do you.
Early bastard gets the bacon.
I'm just interested to see if Joe really is doing something.
Ye'llo? |
Colonel Evans
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Posted - 2010.09.03 05:01:00 -
[264]
>mfw this thread.
The epic amount of butthurt has really made my day, thanks guys!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.03 06:59:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Colonel Evans -snip-
>mfw this thread.
The epic amount of butthurt has really made my day, thanks guys!
I'm guessing that Joe is going to ignore the thread, sadly. I do hold some hope that he'll prove me wrong and bring something out of decent quality though, I enjoy a good machinima.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:41:00 -
[266]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Colonel Evans -snip-
>mfw this thread.
The epic amount of butthurt has really made my day, thanks guys!
I'm guessing that Joe is going to ignore the thread, sadly. I do hold some hope that he'll prove me wrong and bring something out of decent quality though, I enjoy a good machinima.
Oh don't worry it will be out soon enough.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.05 00:24:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Oh don't worry it will be out soon enough.
Though you utterly failed to get it done in two weeks, as promised. It better be something pretty special.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.05 23:56:00 -
[268]
Not failed, just slightly delayed.
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.06 00:17:00 -
[269]
I'm dissapointed, I was really looking forward to a trailer this week.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.06 00:35:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse I'm dissapointed, I was really looking forward to a trailer this week.
But now it will be all the better for your antisipation.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.07 07:41:00 -
[271]
Quite the delay, huh.
Ye'llo? |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.08 01:07:00 -
[272]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 08/09/2010 01:07:55 Apologies for the double-post-bump, but: Breaking news, Clear Skies 3 is on it's way!
Going to need to step up the pace on Oracle if you still want to release about the same time, Joe.
Ye'llo? |
Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.08 17:02:00 -
[273]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 08/09/2010 01:39:06 Apologies for the double-post-bump, but: Breaking news, I've heard on the rumor mill that Clear Skies 3 will be coming soon.
Going to need to step up the pace on Oracle if you still want to release about the same time, Joe.
Seriously? Awesome!
How soon is SoonÖ? Is it SoonÖ at all or is it just regular soon?
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.10 21:38:00 -
[274]
Been quite a bit more than two weeks now, where's my trailer?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.11 02:47:00 -
[275]
Sadly, if no one else hasn't realized yet... Joe ditched the project. He has asked for people to help him, and because of his ridiculous attitude and *ahem* history, no one wants to give him the time at all.
Neither the trailer or movie ever existed in any form worthy of the terms, and likely never will.
/thread
Unless... you have anything to show us, Joe? Besides more excuses which, frankly, make you look more and more like a pathetic squirt with a king-of-the-universe complex.
Ye'llo? |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 02:06:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 12/09/2010 02:06:21
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Sadly, if no one else hasn't realized yet... Joe ditched the project. He has asked for people to help him, and because of his ridiculous attitude and *ahem* history, no one wants to give him the time at all.
Neither the trailer or movie ever existed in any form worthy of the terms, and likely never will.
/thread
Unless... you have anything to show us, Joe? Besides more excuses which, frankly, make you look more and more like a pathetic squirt with a king-of-the-universe complex.
HAHA oh the quality of your trolling is terrible! seriously at least have some kind of standards! The only reason for the delay is (here comes the kicker) SOME people have lives outside eve.
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.09.12 12:34:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 12/09/2010 02:06:21
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Sadly, if no one else hasn't realized yet... Joe ditched the project. He has asked for people to help him, and because of his ridiculous attitude and *ahem* history, no one wants to give him the time at all.
Neither the trailer or movie ever existed in any form worthy of the terms, and likely never will.
/thread
Unless... you have anything to show us, Joe? Besides more excuses which, frankly, make you look more and more like a pathetic squirt with a king-of-the-universe complex.
HAHA oh the quality of your trolling is terrible! seriously at least have some kind of standards! The only reason for the delay is (here comes the kicker) SOME people have lives outside eve.
Quoting this to officially mark the start of back peddling and excuses.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 15:52:00 -
[278]
If you want somthing thrown together in 5 minutes go onto youtube, there are thousands of **** videos and movies out there. In the mean time, stop trolling and leave this thread open for people what actually want to be constructive ok?
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.09.12 17:06:00 -
[279]
I was being constructive. Namely pointing out the facts that the date you gave is long past, and excuses are starting to be made.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.12 17:59:00 -
[280]
ITT: People thinking they are trolling are actually the ones being trolled. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 18:59:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Blane Xero ITT: People thinking they are trolling are actually the ones being trolled.
You're an idiot.
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:14:00 -
[282]
Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 12/09/2010 20:14:48
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
You're an idiot.
You've obviously never read any of his witty retorts.
And you did promise a trailer in two weeks, anyone working on a project like this knows to add at least a week a month to any deadline so that they have time to work out kinks, should they arise. Take CCP for example, they add an hour or so to every patch time estimate.
But they are professionals.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:30:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 12/09/2010 20:14:48
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
You're an idiot.
You've obviously never read any of his witty retorts.
And you did promise a trailer in two weeks, anyone working on a project like this knows to add at least a week a month to any deadline so that they have time to work out kinks, should they arise. Take CCP for example, they add an hour or so to every patch time estimate.
But they are professionals.
I didn't say there WILL be one, i said their might be one. The trailer will be out soon enough which should be all the better for the wait.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:33:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Blane Xero ITT: People thinking they are trolling are actually the ones being trolled.
You're an idiot.
And you would be the authority on such matters, correct?
Personally, I gave you the chance. However you put much more effort into pulling people into the arguments in the thread than allaying suspicions of falsity. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:35:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I didn't say there WILL be one, i said their might be one. The trailer will be out soon enough which should be all the better for the wait.
Liar.
In your own words:
And i have already told you the 5 minute trailer will be done in 2 weeks, until then just sit on your hands.
Sounds like saying "there will be one" to me... -----------
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:41:00 -
[286]
Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 12/09/2010 20:43:47
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I didn't say there WILL be one, i said their might be one. The trailer will be out soon enough which should be all the better for the wait.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And i have already told you the 5 minute trailer will be done in 2 weeks, until then just sit on your hands.
Hope that refreshes your memory.
Edit: Huh, somehow completely missed Merin's post. Sorry
Double edit: And for some insane reason we both had the same idea on how to emphasise the point.
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:44:00 -
[287]
Did you guys consider that he may not have been happy with the trailer he put together?
Not wishing to take sides, but if he needs more time; then he needs more time...maybe just let the man do his thing and critique it once done?
Just a thought guys, just a thought.
AK EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials Vid - New Tricks |
Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:52:00 -
[288]
Originally by: AlleyKat Stuff
AK
I'm willing to start fresh and withhold all criticism if I can see some semblance of decent work. Even one picture would work, though a blog would be nice. I like reading blogs.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 20:55:00 -
[289]
Originally by: AlleyKat Did you guys consider that he may not have been happy with the trailer he put together?
Not wishing to take sides, but if he needs more time; then he needs more time...maybe just let the man do his thing and critique it once done?
Just a thought guys, just a thought.
AK
Ofcourse they don't, that would require higher brain functions.
And merin its not like i made a blood oath on the subject so Could you please just go right ahead and take your ****ty un-intelligent dribble off this thread.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.12 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: AlleyKat Did you guys consider that he may not have been happy with the trailer he put together?
Oh please, it's perfectly obvious that:
1) This "movie" doesn't exist at all, outside of maybe a vague dream in Joe's mind that he will become famous for more than being the worst CEO in EVE.
2) The promise of a trailer was nothing more than an attempt to stall for time and hope we'd all forget about this shameful thread.
If he really had a trailer in progress, he could easily show something and silence all of his critics. The fact that he does not only proves that we are right.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And merin its not like i made a blood oath on the subject so Could you please just go right ahead and take your ****ty un-intelligent dribble off this thread.
Who said anything about a blood oath? You just claimed that you had only said "maybe", not "will be". I pointed out that you did in fact say "will be". It's hardly unreasonable to correct you when you lie about what you said. -----------
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 22:07:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: AlleyKat Did you guys consider that he may not have been happy with the trailer he put together?
Oh please, it's perfectly obvious that:
1) This "movie" doesn't exist at all, outside of maybe a vague dream in Joe's mind that he will become famous for more than being the worst CEO in EVE.
2) The promise of a trailer was nothing more than an attempt to stall for time and hope we'd all forget about this shameful thread.
If he really had a trailer in progress, he could easily show something and silence all of his critics. The fact that he does not only proves that we are right.
Originally by: Joe Phoenix And merin its not like i made a blood oath on the subject so Could you please just go right ahead and take your ****ty un-intelligent dribble off this thread.
Who said anything about a blood oath? You just claimed that you had only said "maybe", not "will be". I pointed out that you did in fact say "will be". It's hardly unreasonable to correct you when you lie about what you said.
not word for work merin my god are you seriously this dumb?
And by the way the "worst ceo in eve" was a claim by a griefer who later lost his corp because he forgot who had shares in his corp... So i don't think he opinion is rellivant.
Seriously merin i must ask, are you related to a vegitable?
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Etheraletus
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Posted - 2010.09.12 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
If he really had a trailer in progress, he could easily show something and silence all of his critics. The fact that he does not only proves that we are right.
Those that do believe need no proof! And those who won't belive what he is saying wouldn't believe his proof to be true! |
Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.09.12 22:39:00 -
[293]
Originally by: AlleyKat Did you guys consider that he may not have been happy with the trailer he put together?
Not wishing to take sides, but if he needs more time; then he needs more time...maybe just let the man do his thing and critique it once done?
Just a thought guys, just a thought.
AK
I would love to give the benefit of the doubt, but the defensive and redirecting nature of the OP's replies does not give me hope for such a case.
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Etheraletus
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Posted - 2010.09.12 23:13:00 -
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Since i think that only a selected fwe of you did understand my last post I'm going to put it a little more simlpe:
I'm one of the guys actually working with Phoenix on this project and a day doesen't by without him talking about it from the moment I logg on, until the second I get off!
I got parts of the script and i'm recieving more parts as I need them! And befor you ask...NONONONO...I won't send it to any of you as proof of our work!
If neither his or my word are enough for you...then i petty you fools! (YES...i stole this prhase from MR T) |
Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.12 23:29:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 12/09/2010 23:31:22
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
not word for work merin my god are you seriously this dumb?
Since "word for work" doesn't make any sense I'm going to assume you meant word for word, in which case, yes you did say it word for word. That's why it's a quote.
And calling people dumb is like no better than saying LOLZ U'R ALL STUPIDHEADZ. You're better off making an attempt at an argument.
Quote: If neither his or my word are enough for you...then i petty you fools! (YES...i stole this prhase from MR T)
Firsty, who are you? Not trying to say your word means nothing but for it to mean something we have to know who you are. Secondly, it's pity, not petty.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.12 23:39:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Edited by: Miriam Letisse on 12/09/2010 23:31:22
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
not word for work merin my god are you seriously this dumb?
Since "word for work" doesn't make any sense I'm going to assume you meant word for word, in which case, yes you did say it word for word. That's why it's a quote.
And calling people dumb is like no better than saying LOLZ U'R ALL STUPIDHEADZ. You're better off making an attempt at an argument.
Quote: If neither his or my word are enough for you...then i petty you fools! (YES...i stole this prhase from MR T)
Firsty, who are you? Not trying to say your word means nothing but for it to mean something we have to know who you are. Secondly, it's pity, not petty.
I'm fairly sure that he told you. Secondly he doesn't have to explain himself to you.
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Etheraletus
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Posted - 2010.09.13 00:08:00 -
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Since I believe in honesty I'm going to tell you who I am:
I'm that german guy sitting in front of this pc, writing this post! I am NOT the other german guy sitting in front of the other pc, writing a different post!
Seriously...never heard about right click on portrait...show info...read info?
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Saithe
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.13 00:15:00 -
[298]
Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:23:56 Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:15:35 for those of you waiting for the trailer, its being put on hold until i do my recording bit. which i am putting off atm because i am ratting my sec up.
so, yea. when i am done ratting ill get off my ass and record. :) until then, chill the **** out and wait patiently.
[23:57:30] Joe Phoenix > saithe get your arse off C&P and do that recording!! [00:02:32] Saithe > im ratting [00:02:38] Saithe > <b><url=showinfo:14266//1536447657>Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier</url></b> [00:06:11] Joe Phoenix > well then tell the ****s on the forum who can't wait for the trailer
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.13 00:16:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix I'm fairly sure that he told you. Secondly he doesn't have to explain himself to you.
He said he worked with you, as an introduction that absolutely sucks. And if he's trying to aid your cause to prove that there is more here than just talk then he should explain himself or at the very least give us some background on what his part is on the project otherwise he'll forever be "the guy who works with Joe Phoenix". Could just as easily be your alt.
Originally by: Etheraletus Seriously...never heard about right click on portrait...show info...read info?
I happen to be away from Eve right now so I can't login and do that, to me you're just a portrait right now.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.14 18:48:00 -
[300]
Saithe still needs to do the recording....
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.09.14 20:32:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:23:56 Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:15:35 for those of you waiting for the trailer, its being put on hold until i do my recording bit. which i am putting off atm because i am ratting my sec up.
so, yea. when i am done ratting ill get off my ass and record. :) until then, chill the **** out and wait patiently.
[23:57:30] Joe Phoenix > saithe get your arse off C&P and do that recording!! [00:02:32] Saithe > im ratting [00:02:38] Saithe > <b><url=showinfo:14266//1536447657>Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier</url></b> [00:06:11] Joe Phoenix > well then tell the ****s on the forum who can't wait for the trailer
Faked convo is faked. We all know Joe is incapable of spelling so many words correctly at one time.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.15 13:34:00 -
[302]
Fine! Then just give us an update on the bridge.. that should be somewhat ready by now yes?
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Saithe
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.16 09:43:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Saithe Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:23:56 Edited by: Saithe on 13/09/2010 00:15:35 for those of you waiting for the trailer, its being put on hold until i do my recording bit. which i am putting off atm because i am ratting my sec up.
so, yea. when i am done ratting ill get off my ass and record. :) until then, chill the **** out and wait patiently.
[23:57:30] Joe Phoenix > saithe get your arse off C&P and do that recording!! [00:02:32] Saithe > im ratting [00:02:38] Saithe > <b><url=showinfo:14266//1536447657>Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier</url></b> [00:06:11] Joe Phoenix > well then tell the ****s on the forum who can't wait for the trailer
Faked convo is faked. We all know Joe is incapable of spelling so many words correctly at one time.
youre right, i edited a few bigger words in to the convo, but the point is still the same.
words like ****s, forum, trailer, and recording were all edited in. my bad.
heres the original log: [23:57:30] Joe Phoenix > saithe get your arse off C&P and make voice thing!!! [00:02:32] Saithe > im ratting [00:02:38] Saithe > <b><url=showinfo:14266//1536447657>Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier</url></b> [00:06:11] Joe Phoenix > well then back my efame!
(with corrected spelling, of course.)
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Saithe
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.16 09:45:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Saithe still needs to do the recording....
i TOLD you i was going to adlib it the entire way through. spot on, chap! you know... AS WE RECORD ****.
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Sral TBear
Shipwreck Island
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Posted - 2010.09.16 11:29:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 13/09/2010 00:24:53 will hopefully be released shortly after clear-skies three.
For me that was the important part......caaaaant waiiiiit :)
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.09.17 23:41:00 -
[306]
Or you could release the trailer without sound! Anything is good.
Even one picture, that's all I ask.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:42:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Or you could release the trailer without sound! Anything is good.
Even one picture, that's all I ask.
JUST WAIT!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.20 03:21:00 -
[308]
It's still not done?
Don't you think it's quite time to drop the act, Joe? It's been, what, almost two months in all? And you still have absolutely nothing to show that you're doing anything at all besides a mountain of excuses and lies. Some people never change, eh?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.09.28 16:25:00 -
[309]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio It's still not done?
Don't you think it's quite time to drop the act, Joe? It's been, what, almost two months in all? And you still have absolutely nothing to show that you're doing anything at all besides a mountain of excuses and lies. Some people never change, eh?
I know superiority must scare you, so just let the big boys do their work ok?
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Yataro Iwasaki
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Posted - 2010.09.29 01:05:00 -
[310]
Edited by: Yataro Iwasaki on 29/09/2010 01:05:52
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I know superiority must scare you, so just let the big boys do their work ok?
And when will they be arriving exactly?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.09.29 16:09:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Yataro Iwasaki Edited by: Yataro Iwasaki on 29/09/2010 01:05:52
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I know superiority must scare you, so just let the big boys do their work ok?
And when will they be arriving exactly?
It's hard to believe, but Joey considers himself a 'big boy'.
What work? Far as anyone can see, you're sitting on your ass doing nothing.
PS: Yeah, I terrify myself. I have to hide under the bed when I catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.30 10:30:00 -
[312]
wow can't believe this is still going. how have you not done anything yet?
looks like this is not being made then...
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.10.09 23:11:00 -
[313]
Sorry I'm late, still waiting on that trailer Joe..
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.10 02:45:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Sorry I'm late, still waiting on that trailer Joe..
You're still being trolled, Miriam. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.10.10 03:07:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Sorry I'm late, still waiting on that trailer Joe..
You're still being trolled, Miriam.
I can deal with it, "Being Trolled" is my middle name. But I'm hoping that if we keep this thread at the top long enough then that tiny remaining shred of Joes credibility should vanish soon.
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.10.10 13:28:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Joes credibility
I lol'd
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.10 13:34:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Miriam Letisse
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Miriam Letisse Sorry I'm late, still waiting on that trailer Joe..
You're still being trolled, Miriam.
I can deal with it, "Being Trolled" is my middle name. But I'm hoping that if we keep this thread at the top long enough then that tiny remaining shred of Joes credibility should vanish soon.
He never had any to begin with. You're just being trolled, repeatedly, without effort.
And god do I admire him for it. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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