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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.07.27 14:46:00 -
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The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us |
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SIEGE RED
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:01:00 -
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You're serious?
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Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:11:00 -
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You guys either have really big balls or you're just plain pants-on-head.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:14:00 -
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still the best online game --
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Doc Robertson
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:15:00 -
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...I voted for big balls
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Syekuda
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:20:00 -
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I hope a CCP dev or mod wont ban me for this but let go of Incarna/Dust 514 for now and work on other pressing issues and I will vote.
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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome.
ISAAC ASIMOV |
Willie Whitehead
Industry XIII Industrial Manufacturing and Research Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: SIEGE RED You're serious?
Pretty much this..
Your gonna have to fix this game first CCP. Listen to the players!
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:47:00 -
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Voted, Perfect Dark --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: SkinSin on 27/07/2010 15:54:29 After the recent "expansions" and revelations about 'dev time'?!?!
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:55:00 -
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Quote: "Tyrannis opens up several new features, including EVE Gate, a front-end and social networking system. With Tyrannis, tools will be accessible via any web browser, allowing players to communicate within the game without being logged into the game. This expansion also introduces new Planetary Interaction, /snip" http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/awards/85-eve-online-tyrannis
The more success CCP has the better my game is, so i'll probably vote. However, I'll vote because I don't know the other games, not because i'm excited with Tyrannis. If it was Apocrypha - or a "devoted to excellence" EVE release (Spaceships etc.) before Incarna - I would climb the Eiffel Tower and wave your corporate banner.
________________________________________________________ Citadel Enterprise - EVE Blog and Private Military Corporations |
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Sir HappyPants
Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:56:00 -
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Acknowledge lag is an ongoing problem and outline the plan to fix it and I will vote for Eve.
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Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:59:00 -
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Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:03:00 -
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invest at least as many resources into EVE as you did into Apocrypha, then we can talk about voting.
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Larg Kellein
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:04:00 -
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For the first time that Eve has been nominated for an award where voting is open to the public, I can't in good conscience vote for it. I still have hope for the game, and as such won't actively be voting against it either, though.
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Rin Kaeda
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:10:00 -
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Two reasons I ain't voting:
1) State of the game, the current state does not qualify you for an award. 2) Register to vote? No thanks, if I can't give my vote anonymously I don't give it.
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5n4keyes
Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:11:00 -
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Thanks for letting us know, Battlefield 1943 gets my vote
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: 5n4keyes Thanks for letting us know, Battlefield 1943 gets my vote
Is that any good? I liked the bad company 2 thing but haven't gotten round to 1943 yet. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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SIEGE RED
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius The more success CCP has the better my game is
Unfortunately, the CSM minutes and Zulu's blog pretty much disprove that. I thought the same, until I actually read all of it.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 27/07/2010 16:18:30 No.
Edit: Long answer; Nnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Ye'llo? |
Maverick77
Ecky Thump Ltd
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:20:00 -
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Quote: EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition.
Sorry but our logs show nothing, please accept our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
were the sweeney son and we aint had any dinner |
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:26:00 -
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This thread saddens me in many ways.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Toanfoal
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
C.
My only vote is for this guy for "best response."
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Ervol Libra
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:37:00 -
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Nope will not do, if you'd put apocrypha I might have but this is still a poor performance release
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Tristana Reid
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:39:00 -
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ur game is broken. why vote for a broken game fix it first. u could bribe isk/free ship/skill points something if we vote and u win.
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Lorieen
AQ Militis Seprentia
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:00:00 -
[25]
Ummm .... wha???
Have you played your game lately in a fleet battle?
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davcin
Caldari davcin Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
...why? ____________________________________________
EVEViewer - view your journal, orders, transactions and allot more |
Gripen
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: SIEGE RED
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius The more success CCP has the better my game is
Unfortunately, the CSM minutes and Zulu's blog pretty much disprove that. I thought the same, until I actually read all of it.
"More money to CCP = better for EVE" motto? It's hard to admit how stupid we were when we believed in it.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:09:00 -
[28]
Oh you are serious?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Come shoot at me, I live in Heimatar. Please? |
MyMainIsBiomass
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:12:00 -
[29]
Vote for Eve-Online?
Yeah, nice troll
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:12:00 -
[30]
<insert_random_childish_comment_about_not_voting_until_blue_in_the_face>
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Jessica Lanson
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:36:00 -
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lol what?
EVE's not been this bad with bugs and lag since pre-QR.
Tyrannis was half finished and I don't even know what PI was meant to be but it's not particularly social or multiplayer, and really isn't how I see EVE.
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Rage Spear
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.07.27 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Rage Spear on 27/07/2010 17:49:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8dBu2L76dA
Even OhMyGodCat is stunned by your hubris...
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cire XIII on 27/07/2010 18:06:14 I find the tone of the OP leaving a bitter taste in my mouth. Your intent is understandable but your choice of words is deplorable. Please stop the "business as usual" commentary and take your vocal community more seriously. I thank you all for the replies that have been made by your staff, but continued attention and, more importantly, measurable action is necessary. We love Eve, but we are not confident in the direction those at the helm are taking. Please continue to restore this confidence and banish "spacial anomalies" back to the void from whence they came.
-Cire
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cire XIII Edited by: Cire XIII on 27/07/2010 18:06:14 I find the tone of the OP leaving a bitter taste in my mouth. Your intent is understandable but your choice of words is deplorable. Please stop the "business as usual" commentary and take your vocal community more seriously. I thank you all for the replies that have been made by your staff, but continued attention and, more importantly, measurable action is necessary. We love Eve, but we are not confident in the direction those at the helm are taking. Please continue to restore this confidence and banish "spacial anomalies" back to the void from whence they came.
-Cire
Said much better than I could -----------------------------------
Originally by: Kali Zero Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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Zso Sahal
Minmatar Multiverse Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:15:00 -
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Well, so far i've voted for Stalker: Call of Pripyat. GSC knows how to spin an engaging tale, AND consistantly put out good content (Clear Sky illustrates the fallacy of putting out unfinished content)
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Ifly Uwalk
Caldari Empire Tax Collection Agency
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:18:00 -
[36]
I would have voted for EvE before Dec 1st 2009.
With that said:
Originally by: Cailais Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
C.
+1
Ifly
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:38:00 -
[37]
in before thread deleted lols
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:39:00 -
[38]
It was with a sinking feeling in my gut I opened this years 'Vote for EVE Online' thread. I kinda suspected what was going to be in it and now that I ve read through some of it I cant say I disagree with much of it.
I remember these threads over the years, the replies used to be pretty enthusiastic and players would try to inspire and urge others on to go vote etc.
Not this time around, CCP.
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.27 19:01:00 -
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I'd vote but I don't think the game deserves the award.
better luck next time.
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TheStarman
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.27 19:50:00 -
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LOL
You guys actually posted this.
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Berneh
LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.07.27 19:52:00 -
[41]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
you must be having a ****ing laugh, fix your game first bellend
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Imweasel09
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Posted - 2010.07.27 19:59:00 -
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Seems zymurgist drew the short straw when they were deciding who should post this. |
Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.07.27 20:03:00 -
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Fix the defects in the game, pay more attention to existing player requests, and then maybe we'll vote. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Zarak1 Kenpach1
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.07.27 20:43:00 -
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fix the lag and maybe i'll vote for eve next year
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.07.27 20:53:00 -
[45]
I voted for Eve.
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
NatteFrost85
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.27 21:10:00 -
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shure, i`ll vote
in 18 months time.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.27 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ti''anla on 27/07/2010 21:27:12 Voted for EVE. So there.
Also, you morons need to realise your pet-hates only fall into certain voting categories, and to exclude EVE as a consideration from all of them is to just be a ****.
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.27 21:41:00 -
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Fleet lag not fixed since Dominion, and lackluster Tyrannis means no votey for you CCP.
I still love Eve, but it's not unconditional. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.27 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ti'anla Edited by: Ti''anla on 27/07/2010 21:27:12 Voted for EVE. So there.
Also, you morons need to realise your pet-hates only fall into certain voting categories, and to exclude EVE as a consideration from all of them is to just be a ****.
Vote for eve Eve wins More publicity More players Middle management justify this as them doing a good job More shoddy features roll out and we're left with the same broken content
Now if CCP fixed the issues and made the game run beautifully, then I'd vote and if eve won best game a number of times in a row with no new content then I think that'd scream a hell of a lot more louder than some expansion or the other. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.27 22:02:00 -
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Sorry guys but Tyrannis is a failure. You don't get my vote. If the game still would be at the Apocrypha stage, then you would get my vote.
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Merouk Baas
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.27 22:43:00 -
[51]
Rofl.
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Gypsy RoseLee
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Posted - 2010.07.27 23:28:00 -
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I vote, but maybe not the way you wanted?
I voted with my wallet, all three of my subscriptions are canceled. Just waiting now for them to run out of subscription time.
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MC187
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Posted - 2010.07.27 23:30:00 -
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half baked clickfest PI system, lagfest fleet fights, old bugs still exist on top of shiny new ones, the almost bi-weekly "database issues". nah, no votey, sorry.
now if someone puts together a petition to tell ccp we want fixes before new content, i'll jump on that. you don't add another floor to a house that has a sketchy foundation right? common sense really.
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Radgette
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Posted - 2010.07.27 23:59:00 -
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lol ye as if i'd vote for this broken pos as it stands, try fixing it even back to pre dominion levels
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Your Client
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Posted - 2010.07.28 00:27:00 -
[55]
Please repost this thread in 18 months. Maybe then I can put some teams into thinking about voting.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
see CCP, some expansions you do really well. Apocrypha was amazing, as was Red Moon Rising although that's going back a bit but I highly doubt you'll find many complaints about either.
As far as Tyrannis goes, you'd have done much better to not dissapoint everyone by promising a whole bunch of exciting features that never made it into the game.
Incarna had better be worth it
- Malyutka (The Virus) - |
Jim Luc
Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 01:29:00 -
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They have games in Europe??
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Icebok
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.28 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Orin Fleet lag not fixed since Dominion, and lackluster Tyrannis means no votey for you CCP.
I still love Eve, but it's not unconditional.
Pretty much this.
Sorry CCP. Need to put in a bit more effort to win my vote.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Luc They have games in Europe??
no we have chat rooms in space (sometimes)
vote for eve? not this time , serve your customers then get there apreciation, that would suit you alot better than go begging for votes and showing you dont care **** about what your customers think or say to you.
thank you for this very enlighting thread about how little you care (not that its a huge suprise)
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.28 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 02:07:00 -
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wow
seriously you don't deserve any awards at all. fix your ****ing game,
Thread is an insult to your loyal playerbase that does not live in empire
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Spinalonga
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 02:09:00 -
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Voting for a game that aint working correctly is just lieing to yerself, coming down to that you suck. Vote for thats works properly. I vote for Luisure Suit Larry 7
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Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.28 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
And I'm sure we'd be behind them if it were early 2009.
Now? Give me a ****ing break. Eve costs money. Money ain't getting any cheaper.
4 days 'till sub expires. Wow me CCP.
Wow me.
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NerdKillin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: NerdKillin on 28/07/2010 03:33:15 Troll OP?
Seriously this game hasnt been award worthy since Apocrypha.
Voted for 1943, it being the only other I had played.
Ask me for my vote again in 18 months, CCP.
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Also fun to notice all the other nominies are +16yr or older games, not baby-fied 12+. Can we get our pleasure hubs and such back now? |
Micia
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 04:35:00 -
[65]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
No.
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UTU |
Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.07.28 04:50:00 -
[66]
Lol. Crowd Control trowing even more oil into the fire.
/walks away shaking head.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.07.28 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
You have it backwards.
They need to get behind the community if they want the community behind them.
Something about their financial forecasts indicating it's better to go chase after a new player base than taking care of their current player base seems to chafe peoples you-know-whats....
So much in Eve needs fixed that WAS WORKING A YEAR AGO, so many suggestions they so desperately wanted to hear from the CSM getting thrown on the backburner...
I'd have voted Eve best game... 10months ago. Now? Combined with their attitude of 'we really do care!' (just not enough to dedicate the proper resources to fix it)
lol thread is lol. It stings to read this stuff and I don't even work at CCP.
But as a wise man once said, sometimes, THE TRUTH HURTS
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Han Lector
Griefer-B-Gone Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 05:27:00 -
[68]
Ha....haha....ahahahahahaha
**** you CCP
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Ae0lian
Caldari Militaris Industries Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 05:52:00 -
[69]
I feel bad for CCP... many of these comment must hurt... but the truth can do that some times.
I voted for EvE cuz I love the game...
But the lag, bugs, and the whole taking over alliances thing.
CCP, the people demand something, and they feel your not giving it to them.... Usally i say its trolls but people are really upset here.
I am upset.
Not asking to dumb the game down like Blizzard did to Warcraft, just fit the bugs.
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Kyusoath Orillian
Haters Gonna Hate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 05:57:00 -
[70]
**** YOU
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Terrimad
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Posted - 2010.07.28 05:58:00 -
[71]
IS THIS A ****ING JOKE?
THIS IS A ****ING JOKE ISN'T IT?
AHAHAH...HA...ha
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:37:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Malcanis on 28/07/2010 06:44:15 hahahaha
no
EDIT: Wait I'll vote in 18 months, how about that?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Ralara
Caldari Vivicide HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:45:00 -
[73]
Well this thread backfired, didn't it?
BTW I e-mailed the URL of this thread to the EGA site ;-)
And no, I'm not voting for eve. Maybe in 18 months. --
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Firkragg
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
Verone the problem is that CCP has been ignoring the complaints of their userbase for a while now and have yet to admit that a bunch of problems like lag and bugs have developed since dominium. And then to add insult to injury they post a dev blog which i assume was meant to placate us but basically just told us that the game will be like this for at least another 18 months.
I personally still love eve and im not going to quit or anything i just wish ccp would pay a bit more attention to the player bases concerns (even something simple as admitting there is a problem and showing that they are doing things to deal with it)
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:55:00 -
[75]
No! Just No!
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Hinkledolph
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:58:00 -
[76]
NO WAY
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capn gump
Caldari ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:01:00 -
[77]
heh
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Aurora Robotnik
Caldari CKSSA Research And Development
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:03:00 -
[78]
FW's still crap. A 50 man fight in what's supposed to be a reinforced node(we were expecting more numbers) still lags the crap out of my client. Maybe not as much as for the recent fights in 0.0 granted, but it's still too much. FIFTY? I've seen more CONCORD NPCs in one spot in Niarja on a regular basis, lag free.
CCP: let's post a thread and pretend we haven't heard anything the players have said. Players: Rabble rabble rabble, constructive feedback and more rabble! CCP: let's ignore that feedback and pretend we haven't heard anything the players have said, and post another thread detailing another wonderful award we won that means nothing to anybody other than us.
So on... so forth... Oh yeah, not voting. Give me a reason to vote - and not a ****ty free ship like the Primae - and I'll do it. But while it's in its current state I can't do it and know my heart is behind it. And if you're still reading then by now you will have realised this is another one of those fail signatures that leads you into thinking it's a part of the post. Move along now, move along. |
Blasphemour
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:06:00 -
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<threatening voice> all will depend on how well and how fast my petition is handled </threatening voice>
Serious... I can't believe that this is posted here... Eve is still an awesome game, or in potential it is... fix client first plz...
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Hardrock Miner
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:08:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Hardrock Miner on 28/07/2010 07:15:43
Originally by: Imweasel09 Seems zymurgist drew the short straw when they were deciding who should post this.
LMAO!! To true, you know he was when he had to post this.
I voted BF 1943! OOORAAA
Fix your game CCP!
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:09:00 -
[81]
So, who in the office won the pool?
This is officially the best thread ever btw
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chingchongchangy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:12:00 -
[82]
Sure I'll vote
FOR NICKOLODEN PARTY BLAST!!!!
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Towering Jehovah
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:17:00 -
[83]
answer my four day old petition, your god awful lag killed my BS while I was ratting. Then I will consider voting for your buggy software
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Dark 0men
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:17:00 -
[84]
The state of my (not) voting for CCP is the best it has ever been.
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:28:00 -
[85]
CCP, you know I love you, but I'm not reinforcing your bad behavior. No. ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster.
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Lin Bao
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:32:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Lin Bao on 28/07/2010 07:31:57
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
this has to be a troll
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Rex Hargrove
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:32:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 28/07/2010 07:32:57 I tried to vote but it took the server 10 minutes to figure out I had arrived on the webpage. Then when I hit the register button, it got stuck so I turned off auto reload on my browser, but that didn't seem to help. Then I figured maybe I'd manually click the heck out of the stop button on my browser so that i could try to hit the vote button again. After 5 minutes that didn't work either so I said screw it and decided not to vote. I would try to close the page and reload it but I don't think I would load before the 11th.
I'm sure you understand.
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Fishslapper
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:32:00 -
[88]
I logged into the website to cast my vote but 20 mins later I still have a blackscreen...
I'm a HUGE fanboy of Eve - but frankly - fix the lag and you'll get my vote. Until then, get stuffed...
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Pneumon Blaster
Gallente Hel's Wing The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:35:00 -
[89]
Voted for Battlefield until EVE gets fixed.
Ah yeah, and I don't play battlefield. :)
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Memorya
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:41:00 -
[90]
lol @ topic ------------------------ "English is a funny language; that explains why we park our car on the driveway and drive our car on the parkway."
English is my 5th. Language.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:42:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 28/07/2010 07:32:57 I tried to vote but it took the server 10 minutes to figure out I had arrived on the webpage. Then when I hit the register button, it got stuck so I turned off auto reload on my browser, but that didn't seem to help. Then I figured maybe I'd manually click the heck out of the stop button on my browser so that i could try to hit the vote button again. After 5 minutes that didn't work either so I said screw it and decided not to vote. I would try to close the page and reload it but I don't think I would load before the 11th.
I'm sure you understand.
Wait until tomorrow. Your browser will mysteriously load by itself, but with half the tabs missing.
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:42:00 -
[92]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Shame really as it's the first year when I will not have voted for EVE Online... this game really does need looking at CCP.
SO many customers cannot be wrong.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:49:00 -
[93]
Sorry Zymurgist, but the state that Eve Online is in right about now, there is no way I could give it a positive vote. Your game is broken, yet you continually ignore the player-base's concern with the lag other other messed up game mechanics.
We all know its about the cash that CCP generates, but as a customer, I can tell you that I'm feeling very ripped off right about now. I'm thinking a lot of people are feeling the same way, especially the guys in 0.0 who can't get a good 30 vs. 30 fight without some sort of module lag.
In fact, I'm hoping that someone goes to one of the gaming sites and talks to a writer about the current state of Eve, so that new prospects to Eve Online know how broken the game is before they drop any coinage on it.
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Kura Accipter
The Littlest Hobos Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:56:00 -
[94]
Thanks for starting my day with a chuckle
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Aralyn Cormallen
Caldari Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 07:59:00 -
[95]
I went to vote, but blackscreened, and after a couple of hours logged off as i couldn't be arsed any more. Non Moritur Cuius Fama Vivat He Dies Not Whose Fame Survives |
QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:00:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
Wrong. The EVE community has been what's kept this game alive for as long as it has been, but frankly CCP don't deserve that support until they fix this game.
For them to post a thread asking us to vote for EVE is nothing less than bare-faced cheek.
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JS LiamElms
Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:01:00 -
[97]
well.. the lag issues....
but really, the amazing lack of new shiney features recently... just lost a lot of interest in eve, so can't see why i could/would want to vote. even though its the only game i play.
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Supay
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:03:00 -
[98]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online for best online game!
Our logs show nothing. .
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Kobran
Gallente Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:09:00 -
[99]
hey 'Zymurgist - Community Representative' u just cant be serious right??
haven't figure out if u do it on purpose..
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Vala Lyles
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:11:00 -
[100]
Sure, I'll vote. I'll do it in the next 18 months or so.
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:11:00 -
[101]
Well, if you can't be bothered to change a few numbers to fix rockets, I really can't be bothered to click a few times to vote.....
I'm sure you understand ------------------------
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Jasmin Soulscream
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:12:00 -
[102]
no, **** off
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The Falcon
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:13:00 -
[103]
voted World of Tanks
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Naru KaTesh
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:16:00 -
[104]
lol what a joke
fix your damn game first
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Srialia
Misfit Toys
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:17:00 -
[105]
Unfortunately my respect for your giant balls does not outweigh my disgust at the utter contempt you've shown your playerbase and our continued efforts to help this game be worthy of winning such a competition. If you take your fingers out of your ears and stop spitting in our faces, maybe you'll deserve more votes.
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RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:30:00 -
[106]
I'll vote World of Tanks just to spite you ****ers. _______________________________________________
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luksajlo
Gallente Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:30:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Supay
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online for best online game!
Our logs show nothing.
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Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:33:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Giovanni DalleBandeNere on 28/07/2010 08:35:49
Originally by: Supay
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online for best online game!
Our logs show nothing.
ehehe this not voting, sorry
edit: 1st serious/important CAOD thread, check it
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nonombre
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:34:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition...vote EVE Online for best online game!
lol? seriously?
Address the glaring issues with playability and game mechanics before even accepting such a nomination. And fix the damn UI
Oh, and just in case you missed it: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1359784
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Caldrion Dosto
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:34:00 -
[110]
These F@#king Guys - CCP
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2010/04/these_****ing_g.html
CCP PR from bad to worse to ****ing hillarious...
And NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo...
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:44:00 -
[111]
Voted Battlefield. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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RX 700
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:50:00 -
[112]
Wait wait ...
We are sorry but ... but ... but ... our logs don`t show anything.
I guess what you give is what you get after all. Don`t worry ... there is no "lag".
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:51:00 -
[113]
I lagged out while voting, sorry. á
I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything. |
mindblow
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:53:00 -
[114]
I really did want to vote for you.. but I'm still at the "entering game black screen" Sig removed, lacks EVE related content. And it scared the bejesus out of me - Mitnal
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Soyemia
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:58:00 -
[115]
in 18 months
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Tropic9
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 08:59:00 -
[116]
Considering the current state of the game + CCP's refusal to even acknowledge most of the issues let alone fix them, EvE Online simply doesn't deserve to win that award.
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Anduin Spartan
Gallente Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:01:00 -
[117]
Dear CCP,
I didn't vote for you. All the reasons have already been give my multiple persons in this thread already. Maybe you should actually take this as a hint that your player base ****in hates you. Fix it and you might get voted for next year. I highly doubt you'll do jack **** to fix your broken piece of **** game that we still play because we have thrown years and years into it. **** you....
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j0nna
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:03:00 -
[118]
Wat a joke.
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Relve
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:15:00 -
[119]
Well I'm unsubscribed. Does that count as a vote?
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motomysz
Nexus Advanced Technologies Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:16:00 -
[120]
God, CCP, please read this and realize you're fucking it up. No, I'm not voting for you.
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Thin Sam
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:19:00 -
[121]
Thanks for the heads up CCP!
I'll be voting for BC2 as it is far better than your game which you managed to royally **** up with stupid, boring and repetitive features.
Strangely enough DICE won't be introducing 8 types of knives, new combat boot styles and a milk farm management sub-game to their game. They actually improve the game.
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Kass Boor
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:20:00 -
[122]
Sorry, but I haven't voted.
I really like Eve, but I haven't played the other games, which I think is true for the grand majority of voters in this contest. They vote on the game they play often without having played the contestants.
I don't like the format of the contests, they claim their readers vote to determine the best game but it ends up being a popularity contest where not the best game wins but the game with the highest number of fanatic voters.
It's like choosing which one of two dishes tastes best when you have only eaten 1.
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StainLessStealRat
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:21:00 -
[123]
First year i wont vote for eve.
This thread is eather a wake up call or the begining of CCP's failscade.
How the Fnck can you be so out of touch with the players feeling toward this game ATM to even think of starting this thread. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:21:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Bobbechk on 28/07/2010 09:22:23 It seems i have accidentally uninstalled all my browsers and thus have to use the ingame browser, problem is i am stuck in C-J and can only play for like 10min when the next station timer runs out
well see if i can vote
[no browsers were used to write this post] ________
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Bitter Veteran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:23:00 -
[125]
I was going to vote for Eve, but after spending 2 hours last night restarting PI chains, another 3 hours waiting for a station to come out of reinforced - then falling asleep as i waited for 30 POS modules to anchor I'm a little tired today.
So I'll sit over here and join the "may vote in 18 months" crowd.
Did you really think this thread was a good idea?
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FatFreddy
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:23:00 -
[126]
I reinstalled Freelancer yesterday.
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Auri Hella
Downwind Trading Guild
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:26:00 -
[127]
Nice troll bro.
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Johan Moisander
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:31:00 -
[128]
+1 age of conan
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:34:00 -
[129]
Nice try CCP.
3/10
+1 for trying +2 for 5 pages of LOL -7 for failing at EVE
Fix your stupid game.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:36:00 -
[130]
I have always voted for EVE but sorry CCP, not this time.
I think you know why.
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Mark LT
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:37:00 -
[131]
Wow. just wow. The audacity to even post this is just.....
EVE, in the state its in atm does not deserve best online game. It doesn't deserve any award except maybe best game to alienate a player base. Get your heads back down to earth where you can actually hear the people who PAY YOU and play your game and get it moving back in the right direction. Until then ask me in 18 months for a damn vote
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Mehira Am'kul
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:40:00 -
[132]
I would love to vote for EVE... but I can't.
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Ivan Rakijas
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:40:00 -
[133]
Yo CCP fix your game, not voting for this broken piece of software this year, maybe next time if ya all behave vOv.
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Morrow Borric
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:43:00 -
[134]
This must be a troll.
After the year of poor service you have given the community you really expect to win an award? For what? Most pointless features clamped onto a broken game?
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:44:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Silence iKillYouu on 28/07/2010 09:46:43 So much hate for CCP
If the game is broken jsut leave.
I love this game its so pwitty
LOL WTF i seen someguy say BC2 is better then eve online. Mate BC2 is so broken i dont know were to start. They release new maps that are jsut the same maps with different game types on them. u press Q and u can follow enemys thru walls u get revived and ur bullet proof. The god dam choppers are usless.
BC2 is a flop
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Mr SmartGuy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:47:00 -
[136]
Voted. Good luck. |
Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:49:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Silence iKillYouu Edited by: Silence iKillYouu on 28/07/2010 09:46:43 So much hate for CCP
If the game is broken jsut leave.
I love this game its so pwitty
LOL WTF i seen someguy say BC2 is better then eve online. Mate BC2 is so broken i dont know were to start. They release new maps that are jsut the same maps with different game types on them. u press Q and u can follow enemys thru walls u get revived and ur bullet proof. The god dam choppers are usless.
BC2 is a flop
Eve.
Online.
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Karunel
Princeps Corp Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:49:00 -
[138]
Maybe in 18 months.
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Comboduck
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:52:00 -
[139]
Eve is in so many ways the best game I've ever played. But the current state of the game is pathetic. I loved 0.0, but have moved out because I couldn't stand losing my friday nights to blackscreens.
No vote, listen to us, the people paying for the game. The current game needs more attention than any other project you might be working on, because we're the ones financing that.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:55:00 -
[140]
Why would I vote for a company which sold it's soul and isn't focussing on the real problems it's core product has?
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Kwa Zulu
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 09:57:00 -
[141]
While EVE is still a great game there are simply too many issues with it right now. It would send a wrong signal to your middle and top management if the game would win an award like that, sorry, been there and seen that happen in tech companies.
Please fix your priorities first, which should be on the current gameplay and not some dress up gadget and other uninteresting expansions. Enabling fleet fights and sov wars would be a big step in the right direction.
Good luck CCP
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R'tur
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:00:00 -
[142]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
If it was i would ..
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:01:00 -
[143]
You're surely having a laugh? Vote for Eve in the state its in?
If you let people suspend their sub before it ran out (like you used to) I wouldn't even be here right now. I was one of the people stupid enough to pay for a year of you ignoring players and adding fluff that doesn't work.
Get a grip. You'd have to be a hopelessly naive fanboi to vote for Eve right now.
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Kendar
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:01:00 -
[144]
I dont give noughty kids a cookie, behave and mabye ill give you one in 18 months or so
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am0n tristessa
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:02:00 -
[145]
I got to the "Hackers are spamming our forums with links leading to key-loggers/Trojans and then ruining the accounts of players that navigate to those links." redirection page and thought better of following the link. Best not to chance adventuring outside eveonline.com in case I find a better online game.
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Tish Magev
NailorTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:06:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Tish Magev on 28/07/2010 10:06:42 LOL
Wait, it isn't April 1st......
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1359784
You've got no chance. No vote this year.
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Dabigredboat
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:06:00 -
[147]
I would have voted for russia's world of tanks but I don't see it on the list.
http://www.daitengu.com/ohgod/dec20bobts.mp3 |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:08:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 28/07/2010 10:08:35
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Are you on crack ? --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |
Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:10:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Darth Vapour on 28/07/2010 10:10:41 My vote got caught in a spatial anomaly and may have been for another game.
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DanMck
Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:13:00 -
[150]
i was going to blow this post up but i couldn't lock it and then after 3 mins when i did i had to manual fire on it and then after another 3 mins i gave up.
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Commander KroMm
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:22:00 -
[151]
Statistics show no correlation between me voting for EVE, and devs fixing **** instead of shoveling more **** in.
In other words, screw you, I'm voting for My Little Pony Happytime Adventures.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:22:00 -
[152]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Gotta be the best troll in a long time
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Daxel Magmalloy
UK Corp -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:23:00 -
[153]
This thread is evidence that CCP have no idea what is going on with their game.
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Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:24:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Imweasel09 Seems zymurgist drew the short straw when they were deciding who should post this.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:27:00 -
[155]
Good job Zymurgist. You managed to make a thread that caused more people to actually vote against you.
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Joshua Abraham
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:40:00 -
[156]
Confirming that Eve online would be the best game ever... If it only worked.
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qRTA Over
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:41:00 -
[157]
Haahhahahahhahhhahhaahahahahhahahah , vote for game that dont work lol
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Lord Morloc
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:43:00 -
[158]
Fix your game first and provide what you advertise.
I lagged out and was looking at a black screen, while trying to vote :)
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Dyzzy Dyvyl
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:46:00 -
[159]
u can **** right off.,...... if u think im going to vote for ccp u can think again the amout of people telling u to **** off is any sign i think call of duity will win. i would rather vote for WoW and i dont even play wow
ôWise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.ö |
TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:50:00 -
[160]
Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 28/07/2010 10:51:39 Ahahahahahahaha.
CCP, you are fuc.king idiots. This is a brilliant troll.
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Heptameron
Gallente Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:50:00 -
[161]
HA! More chance of taking a dump in the Queens handbag than getting my vote this year.....
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kra torii
United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:51:00 -
[162]
Edited by: kra torii on 28/07/2010 10:53:08
Originally by: Ulviirala Vauryndar
Originally by: Imweasel09 Seems zymurgist drew the short straw when they were deciding who should post this.
Edit; Instead of empty quoting, I'll add some content to my post.
When you stop taking a literal dump on your member base, I'll vote for you.
Until then, you get no votes from me.
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Reothyr
Gallente Prospero Excavations
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:52:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Reothyr on 28/07/2010 10:54:11 Voted as a thank you for completely revamping mining and industry and making them genuinely interesting after over half a decade of waiting. My fleet thanks you.
Oh and btw if you have noticed that I have been paying this game with ISK for the past year or so, that's because I decided I won't give you any of my euros anymore.
Yeah the vote - it went to ARMA 2.
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r3voo
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:55:00 -
[164]
Thx for link CCP.
Voted for age of conan. FIX lag first before you ask mad gamers to vote for ya.
Cya
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Sendaton
404 Corporation Not Found
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:56:00 -
[165]
Good luck getting a vote from me.
The instant a CCP dev was quoted as saying there's no evidence that fixing broken content/features earns more cash than new features, that lost it for me right there.
Not to worry! We're only a small portion of the playerbase that actually cares enough about the game to post here. Our opinions in no way reflect the state or enjoyability of the game for other players.
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Freeda Wayne
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:57:00 -
[166]
You must check your players accounts, look for Innominate Nightmare, see what his real name is, investigate a little bit, mail him or phone him, check what really happened and tell us if he/she is still alive or if he/she is dead (and how he/she died). And it's something that you should have done about 3 years ago but you chose to not give a damn about the sentiments of the many who cared about him/her.
Only then, when we will know what happened, we can think that you actually care about what your players are thinking about your game.
You know, there are real persons on the other side of the screen, and not all of them are idiots.
Other than this, keep it up, I like the game.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.07.28 10:59:00 -
[167]
Sry, is not planned to vote eve online in the next 18 months... try again in the next CSM Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Alex's Slave
Gallente The.Usual.Suspects OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:01:00 -
[168]
2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
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Traxio Nacho
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:02:00 -
[169]
Just read the write up for the award for Tyrannis
Quote: Icelandic-based MMO developer CCP announced that the thirteenth free expansion, Tyrannis, for EVE Online has been released to the server.
Might be free but you charge probably about ú2 more than most other MMO's per month.
Quote: Tyrannis opens up several new features, including EVE Gate, a front-end and social networking system. With Tyrannis, tools will be accessible via any web browser, allowing players to communicate within the game without being logged into the game.
Bloody good job CCP added this least now people can still chat while sat looking at a black screen.
Quote: This expansion also introduces new Planetary Interaction, allowing players to scan the surface of planets and place structures on them, accessing the natural resources the planets harbor. With over 65,000 planets available in EVE, thatÆs a lot of new content. (mmocrunch)
NO! it isn't
I can't believe CCP have gotten that stupid that they ask people to vote their expansion for an award when it is probably the second worse one they have ever released.
Doubt anyone from CCP will reply to this thread as they are too busy working on Incarna and Dust Signature removed as it contains profanity. Navigator |
Brocchi
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:03:00 -
[170]
CCP, at least you had the idea of the best MMORPG. But I can't vote for this lagfest. Fix it. May be next year.
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Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:03:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
I chuckled
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:03:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
you my friend, have too much free time.
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:05:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 28/07/2010 11:05:54 Voted. Eve is not perfect and has its portion of problems but it's still the best mmorpg.
For the rest of you whiny *****es... why are you here, hm? Why don't you just GTFO and play those 'superior games' made by 'superior companies'?
Bloody hypocrites.
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Ryan Powers
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:05:00 -
[174]
"Heavy Spacial disortions" are making it impossible for me to vote. They're also making it impossible for my fellow capsuleers, whatever alliance they belong to or language they speak, to murder each other en mass.
May vote in 18 months?
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Manks Girl
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:06:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Lord Morloc Fix your game first and provide what you advertise.
I lagged out and was looking at a black screen, while trying to vote :)
Blackscreening sounds familiar
Pure cheek to post this thread after what paying consumers are being subjected to.
Best troll post of 2010 by ccp.
Regards
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:07:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 28/07/2010 11:05:54 Voted. Eve is not perfect and has its portion of problems but it's still the best mmorpg.
For the rest of you whiny *****es... why are you here, hm? Why don't you just GTFO and play those 'superior games' made by 'superior companies'?
Bloody hypocrites.
A good point well made by the popular eve poster xroxreariad.
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RX 700
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:13:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 28/07/2010 11:05:54 Voted. Eve is not perfect and has its portion of problems but it's still the best mmorpg.
For the rest of you whiny *****es... why are you here, hm? Why don't you just GTFO and play those 'superior games' made by 'superior companies'?
Bloody hypocrites.
CCP alt?
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:16:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Sendaton
The instant a CCP dev was quoted as saying there's no evidence that fixing broken content/features earns more cash than new features, that lost it for me right there.
Senior producer if you check a few people's sigs
But a game moving forward based on that theory does not deserve any awards. Also this attitude demonstrates 0 loyalty to the players so when they expect some loyalty back this time around it isn't there.
As predicted after the last threadnaught the official responses achieved nothing other than persuading a few more people there was no hope and leaving everyone bitter.
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Caneb
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:16:00 -
[179]
My vote was lost due to spatial distortions.
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Higgs Foton
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:19:00 -
[180]
Two expansions ago, when you could have a decent fight with 1500 in local, i would be more then happy to give my vote. With the current crap state of the game (spatial distortions all over the place) i might consider voting for WOW, even though i never played that game. If Hello Kitty online is one of the selected i might even vote for that. But no way i am going to vote EVE now.
FIX LAG!!! Roll back Tyrannis and Dominion! aaargggghh! *insert epic rage* ___________________________________
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Corvac
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:22:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Corvac on 28/07/2010 11:24:45 Voted (for Perfect Dark, althoguh I have never played it, I am sure it is a more worthy winner than EVE anyway)
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:24:00 -
[182]
lol, hell no i'm voting for a bunch of amateurs.
Stop making fun of your paying playerbase and actually fix the game and stop putting in useless additions that no one wants! Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |
Sae Jabar
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:25:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Ryan Powers "Heavy Spacial disortions" are making it impossible for me to vote. They're also making it impossible for my fellow capsuleers, whatever alliance they belong to or language they speak, to murder each other en mass.
May vote in 18 months?
love 2 roleplay lag
*is ccp*
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Christina Aguilera
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:27:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Karunel Maybe in 18 months.
I think the spacial distortions of eve are actually beginning to speak. BC2
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Jacobus Archilles
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:28:00 -
[185]
CCP appear to have been living on their laurels for far too long and in the meantime what has happened?
- Game quality has gone downhill and lag is unacceptable. - Customer service now represents the standard Australian model (i.e they donÆt know what good customer service is). - CCP QAÆs department went on strike after RMR. - It appears that a æbean counterÆ is now running the show at CCP.
Sorry CCP û I love Eve but you donÆt get my vote this time.
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Teschan
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:29:00 -
[186]
Pathetic.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:30:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 28/07/2010 11:05:54 Voted. Eve is not perfect and has its portion of problems but it's still the best mmorpg.
For the rest of you whiny *****es... why are you here, hm? Why don't you just GTFO and play those 'superior games' made by 'superior companies'?
Bloody hypocrites.
We are here because we love the concept of the game and because ccp has caught us and got us adictive, but even the best drug will only keep you "up" for a specific amount of time and when it starts wearing off then comes the drawbacks and headaches.
Voting for this game right now would be the most stupid thing any player could do atm if you think the game needs fixing, and CCP asking us to vote is the most embaressing and most arrogant thing they have ever done in the nearly 6 years iv been playing, specially when its clear to everyone that they do not and will not listen to that player base they so desperatly keep asking for feedback from, i guess the only thing they wanna hear is " im in jita with 1300+ and i have no lag inside my station when chatting to my friends in corp chat"
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:31:00 -
[188]
The spatial distortions wouldn't let me vote for EVE Online. I'll try again in 18 months.
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Bagdon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:33:00 -
[189]
What the hell, CCP? If this wasn't a deliberate attempt to **** people off for some hidden reason, you really should do something about your corporate Tourette's syndrome.
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Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:36:00 -
[190]
I'll vote in 18 months. |
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:36:00 -
[191]
Geez ... that was a brilliant idea ...
I could imagine this going down like this:
CCP manager: ... there is no proof that polished quality sells better then quantity ... CCP Zymurgist: You want me to show you it does ? CCP manager: .. not like you can, but sure, humor me. CCP Zymurgist: Proceeds to posts this
CCP manager cant be quoted after this, forum filter would turn it all into stars anyway.
Yes/No ? ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Stoffl
The Executives
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:36:00 -
[192]
This has to be the most brilliant CCP Trollpoast ever.
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:39:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Sendaton The instant a CCP dev was quoted as saying there's no evidence that fixing broken content/features earns more cash than new features, that lost it for me right there.
Exactly. Any business that doesn't try to keep it's existing customers, but instead ignores them in favour of trying to attract short term new customers is ultimately doomed.
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R'tur
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:39:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
laughed so hard wee wee came out . stop.. no more
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Thunder1971
Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:39:00 -
[195]
You got my vote on several occasions before.
This time you'll need to earn it again...fix the game!
voted for BF1943...pretty sure it is more fun and the screen actually has moving images when you are fighting another group of people.
T "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship". |
Ank Burov
A-Priori Red Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:41:00 -
[196]
Fix lag before, svidomeats.
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Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Caldari Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:43:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Emrys Ap''Morgravaine on 28/07/2010 11:43:17
Originally by: Thunder1971 You got my vote on several occasions before.
This time you'll need to earn it again...fix the game!
voted for BF1943...pretty sure it is more fun and the screen actually has moving images when you are fighting another group of people.
T
Moving images eh? I heard there's some bunch of boffins trying to get some audio at the same time, people are saying its going to be called "talkies"
<inserts collection of meme's here, including Srsly?, U-Mad?, Have you gone full Ret*rd? etc...>
Em.
-=-=-=-=- Reformed Carebear. Much bear, zero care. -=-=-=-=- |
Trolley Snatcha
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:45:00 -
[198]
CCP have done a great job, and continue to improve server stability.
You will have my vote and good luck with the future of EVE.
Keep up the good work. |
Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:49:00 -
[199]
Voted BF1943, might contemplate voting for eve in 18 months' time. Signature removed. |
MyMainIsBiomass
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:52:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Trolley Snatcha CCP have done a great job, and continue to improve server stability.
You will have my vote and good luck with the future of EVE.
Keep up the good work.
Not a CCP alt
No sireee
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Espectro
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:52:00 -
[201]
Voting for EVE but , due to a small lag problem , ETA for my vote is January-2012
I'll check logs, maybe they show where is the problem.
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Smokey Jill
Ackbar Military Planning
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:53:00 -
[202]
Voted BF 1943. This game is broker than the 10 commandments atm. --
"IzzyChan" My character is like a punk kid running a corp of destruction and awesome.
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:53:00 -
[203]
Dear CCP,
Voted for Conan. Whatever the hell that is.
Any other undeserved nominations you want to share?
Thanks, -MistressDoom
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Comstr
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:53:00 -
[204]
Granted all of us posting are voting with out wallets, but I'm sure the decrease in total player numbers in the next 18 months will be the final result. How many of these posters will be still PLAYING in 18 months?
CCP won't be getting any awards for excellence for the next 2 years at any rate.
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Demitrios
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:07:00 -
[205]
Since when was iceland in europe?
Anyways, i'll vote in 18 months time as there are many polished products out there.
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Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:08:00 -
[206]
I just wanted to say this to CCP:
LOL, fat chance.
Cancel Incarna, postpone dust for 3 years, get us a technically minded EVE fan as a Senior Producer (instead of a short-term quarterly gains maximization person), commit to freezing EVE in it's current state from point of view of new features and invest every last resource you can into fixing lag.
Then give me 18 months and I'll conciser not voting for WOW.
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Smokey Jill
Ackbar Military Planning
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:09:00 -
[207]
Voted BF 1943. This game is broker than the 10 commandments atm. --
"IzzyChan" My character is like a punk kid running a corp of destruction and awesome.
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:10:00 -
[208]
Yeah... sitting waiting for the servers to overcome their "testing mode" database issues again made me finally read this thread.
<sigh> Even when I had stopped playing EvE, I still voted for it... now that I'm back... I just can't lie to myself to say it's the best. So much has happened in the last month to tarnish that view.
I want EvE to be the best...but it seems it's just us (players) that really want that right now. Vote pending... delivery ETA: February 2012.
-G
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:10:00 -
[209]
This thread went well.
Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
Romale
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:13:00 -
[210]
i clicked vote button but with 800 in local it doesn't appear to be going through, ill keep trying, out of curiosity did you ask the european games awards to re-enforce their servers? you gota do that in advance you know...
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Johnny Gurkha
We Are Flaming Dragon
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:18:00 -
[211]
Suck my destiny balls vOv |
Thunder1971
Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:19:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Thunder1971 on 28/07/2010 12:20:10 Perhaps we should mail EGA and ask where they got the idea to nominate Eve? Sure as hell isn't based on customer support and fixing known issues that ruin the game. Must be the pwetty pwanets :p "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship". |
fmercury
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:20:00 -
[213]
no.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:21:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Ressiv Geez ... that was a brilliant idea ...
I could imagine this going down like this:
CCP manager: ... there is no proof that polished quality sells better then quantity ... CCP Zymurgist: You want me to show you it does ? CCP manager: .. not like you can, but sure, humor me. CCP Zymurgist: Proceeds to posts this
CCP manager cant be quoted after this, forum filter would turn it all into stars anyway.
Yes/No ?
I srsly hope it was something like this, and that zymurgist is now rofl'ing rather than sobbing. I feel for him. á
I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything. |
Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:21:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
You forgot to add: "(I love you CCP! You can do anything to me as long as I dont blackscreen when spinning inside my station.)"
EVE PIRATE BattleDB.com |
gnome proper
Missions Mining and Mayhem
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:22:00 -
[216]
Locate a flagpole, climb it, insert yourself rectally and rotate.
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Beachura
Two Maidens One Chalice Equillibrium.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:25:00 -
[217]
haha, No, broken game, fix it
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Takakura Hirohito
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:25:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Takakura Hirohito on 28/07/2010 12:26:58 My first fleet battle was in 2007. Lag was bearable. Lagginess was reduced until Tyrannis. You would've gotten my vote the previous 3 years, but not this year.
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Von Seth
Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:26:00 -
[219]
So i was like :| but then i lol'd
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Raphael Scoria
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:27:00 -
[220]
I tried to vote, but first it said that there had been more than 200 votes cast already and locked up for half an hour before it loaded the page. Then I had to press the vote button about forty times before it registered, at which point it locked up and kept trying to vote solidly for 45 minutes. Fortunately, none of them counted apparently, as I started bouncing back and forth between the poll page and the link that got me to it for about half an hour before my browser just went black and I went to bed.
I complained that they'd not counted my vote for excellent space MMO Eve Online but they said that their records showed nothing and that it was my own fault for trying to vote in the same poll as more than thirty other people.
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Oei
Nuclear Arms Exchange
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:28:00 -
[221]
Don't think so..
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Anova Vonn
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:29:00 -
[222]
+1 Conan vote
Please, sort your game out so I never have to vote for Conan again.
PI, I like many have tried it out, and like many have stopped using it, Planetary Click frenzy is not a welcome addition to the game.
And fix lowsec and 0.0 already, as currently bar comedy roam's ending in a lagged out ship loss, there's no need or want to go to either.
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Johnathan Walker
Caldari Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:29:00 -
[223]
Absolutely not CCP.
When your team starts to listen to the players more and allows the CSM to perform their duties as assigned with less resistance, perhaps I will consider it then.
In the meantime, the answer is no. Warmly, "The Bear" JW
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IngarNT
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:30:00 -
[224]
erm... guys.... Iceland isnt actually in europe.
I think we may have been trolled p hard.
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Glafri
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:30:00 -
[225]
Thats some funny sh!t right there ccp. I don't normally vote but for you I made a special case.
Come on Perfect Dark.
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:30:00 -
[226]
Don't worry guys.
CCP can vote and then come back later and find their vote in space again after downtime. Logs don't show anything.
EVE PIRATE BattleDB.com |
Junior SvK
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:31:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Junior SvK on 28/07/2010 12:31:11 thank you ccp for letting me know about this votes
I voted for Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer
Since with CCP game ( eve ) iam not satisfied and iam bored from this broken game, hope u understand me
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hamon konakh
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:31:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Raphael Scoria Edited by: Raphael Scoria on 28/07/2010 12:29:22 I tried to vote, but first it said that there had been more than 200 votes cast already and locked up for half an hour before it loaded the page. Then I had to press the vote button about forty times before it registered, at which point it stopped responding and just kept trying to vote solidly for 45 minutes. Fortunately, none of them counted apparently, as I started bouncing back and forth between the poll page and the link that got me to it for about half an hour before my browser went black, my iPhone went on fire and I went to bed.
I complained that they'd not counted my vote for excellent space MMO Eve Online but they said that their records showed nothing and that it was my own fault for trying to vote in the same poll as more than thirty other people.
Hahahaha.
Vote, erhm don't think so. Fix the lag first!
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Xristic
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:31:00 -
[229]
Hahahahahah nice joke CCP.
NO WAY!
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iridize
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:32:00 -
[230]
You have the cheek to come and ask us to do something for you, when you do nothing for us?
No vote from me.
Tell me CCP, how exactly did you see this thread going? Or was it another case, much like the CSM meeting mins, where you have no idea what is going on right in front of your collective noses?
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GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:32:00 -
[231]
notsureifserious.jpg |
Luminary Xion
Gallente Unknown-Heroes
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:33:00 -
[232]
Kindest apologies CCP, however your actions as of late give me reasonable grounds to doubt your ongoing commitment to the customers of CCP Games.
I must refrain from supporting an award at this time.
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Alexis Vacorum
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:33:00 -
[233]
I think the other folks ahead of me have said it best.
And can I get a "HELL NO!".
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paulo fr
Caldari AdAstra.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:34:00 -
[234]
EVEWHAT?
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Nakhia
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:34:00 -
[235]
Haha, no.
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something somethingdark
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:35:00 -
[236]
Sadly i must inform you that spacial distortions are not permitting me to vote at this time. A vague estemation of when i shall be able to retry this process would be 18 months from now.
Once again i apologize for any inconvenience caused and have a fly safe.
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:36:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Voting for this game right now would be the most stupid thing any player could do atm if you think the game needs fixing
Ffs we are supposed to vote for the best European online game as it stands NOW. Simple as that. If you think that there is some other better mmorpg out there, worth my money and time, I'd really like to hear about it. I don't know any.
Sure Eve could use some fixing here and there just like any other mmorpg in the world, but it also needs to evolve. CCP said they planned from day one to create some sort of ultimate sci-fi simulator. I couldn't possibly know reasons why they've been stuck with that 'internet spaceships' part for all this years but if they really want to finally move and expand Eve they must do something about it. You could say that they did not choose right time, but let's be realistic: there is no such thing as right time not it will ever be. Remember we are talking about one mmorpg here: mmorpgs are never finished, they are always partially broken, and you can never expect perfect balance. Never. I've played enough mmorpgs in my life to know that Eve is --despite all its flaws-- far the best in genre, and comparing to other companies CCP is actually very good in what they do and how they communicate with their playerbase. It's ok if you don't believe me: then I'd strongly recommend you to try some other game... AoC, WAR, DF, you name it. But let me tell you this: if you played Eve for more than 12 months I guarantee you'll come back very soon.
Also... I see some people here are voting for other games even if they don't have slightest clue about them. Why? To look cool on these forums? How old are you guys?
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:38:00 -
[238]
Ok, so I voted Conan... only because it's the only other one I've played... sorry CCP... feel like I'm betraying you, but I must vote this way.
-G
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Sloth Arnini
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:40:00 -
[239]
I might vote in 18 months.
Speaking seriously, I honestly hope that CCP can either make the spaceship battles that are possible with the playerbase's level of organization playable or completely change the system if they cannot.
I'm not going to ragequit just yet, but I am seriously debating whether to renew my subscriptions when they next expire.
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Delegado Cero
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:42:00 -
[240]
Great troll OP. Voted Conan.
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Kaar
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:43:00 -
[241]
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooorld of tanks.
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Chirinako
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:43:00 -
[242]
Sorry, I honestly tried to vote but I got traffic controlled on trying to load the page and then blackscreened.
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Mu'n Hurricane
Minmatar Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:44:00 -
[243]
That's some huge ignorance, CCP. ****ing No. Fix your game. You care more about stupid The Sims clone (incarna) and shooter that won't make into tops (dust).
Look what CCP did to my cat!!!
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:45:00 -
[244]
I'm so sorry CCP, but I already canceled my sub, so its not fair to vote for game I won't play for next 18 months. And even then, "Best online game" are you out of your god damned mind?! We play EVE because we are sadists/masochists/addicted, not because its really that good.
You abandoned 0.0, and general low sec and faction warfare, only PVP segments left in game are scamming and suicide ganking. No matter how much you try to get more subs with new PVE content you will never provide PVE experience that for example Blizzard can, that battle is impossible to win.
So no, I haven't voted for abandoned bugged and unbalanced game for "best online game".
And no one can has my stuff, I might need it in 18 months.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:45:00 -
[245]
Not voting for this game.
I have some hope things will get better, but right now that hope is very small and helping get the game/ccp an award they can use to get more people in to eve when its messed up like it is, and for the resulting subs increase to allow them to make more half finished features; I dont think so. Signature rotation removed for containing inappropriate signatures. Zymurgist
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:45:00 -
[246]
Originally by: IngarNT erm... guys.... Iceland isnt actually in europe.
What rock did you hide under when the rest had geography ? ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Beachura
Two Maidens One Chalice Equillibrium.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:47:00 -
[247]
EVE Gate
(1 team, approximately 10 developers)
We have one team (at this point) assigned to EVE Gate development and iteration, and that wonæt change for the foreseeable future. Note that this team is a dedicated Web development team. I had planned on using them to fix fleet lag but was talked out of it.
you turned down the opportunity to assign a team to fixing fleet lag
G T F O
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Erfurt
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:50:00 -
[248]
I would vote but I am still black screened logging in. Sorry my logs say nothing.
FIX THE GAME then maybe.
Erfurt "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know neither victory nor defeat."
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Thunder1971
Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:51:00 -
[249]
Since you are asking I'm 39 y old, married and a father of 3 who earns his money as a security officer. The same money from which part is (was) going to 3 accounts of EVE online. I have already taken breaks from my accounts from a week to about a month each, due to me being unhappy with the current state of the game. but what does one person matter...
None of us are doing this willingly Xroxreariad we all love playing this game and care about it. There are just times that we must take a stand, and this thread is clearly part of "taking a stand" and trying to make CCP come to their sense that things are going wrong. It is very clear that the game we love to play is becoming unplayable and it has been deteriorating for quite some time now.
I sincerely hope that all larger and smaller alliances get their heads together for one EPIC act showing this problem goes beyond our ingame politics and skirmishes. We want to be able to scam and fight each other in a game environment that works. "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship". |
McKinlay
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:53:00 -
[250]
Sry nop.
Make fixing spatial distortions the company's number one priority then we can talk.
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Murrior
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:53:00 -
[251]
Edited by: Murrior on 28/07/2010 12:54:07
Originally by: Cailais Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
C.
Spot on.
CCP always had the best trolls. The game is completely broken and you come to us asking to vote for it as the best online game. hahahahaha.
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Major Asshurt
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:56:00 -
[252]
Defo gonna vote for eve, this spatial anomoly feature may just add some excitement to large fleet fights now |
Lord EmBra
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:56:00 -
[253]
Originally by: 5n4keyes Thanks for letting us know, Battlefield 1943 gets my vote
This! Battlefield delivers!
Perhaps in 18 months... I can consider voting for eve-online.
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Montar Ran
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:00:00 -
[254]
CCP... Completely fail... Oh wait you knew that already like everyone else in this thread. Take your heads out of your ass, fix the game. Listen to the CSM's oh wait you told them to f*** since Bust and INcar are more important. Iguess the player base is saying no CCP you f*** off... lol
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Konner Kyle
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:02:00 -
[255]
Tell you what....I'll sell you my vote for $15 a month. ------------------------ [ ]Eve Online [x]Hello Kitty Online ------------------------
"Voting for Best Online Game has come to a halt due to spatial distortions......" "Downtime for Reality has been extended to 13:00 UTC due to a database error..."
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Kratos 00
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:02:00 -
[256]
Get the message CCP?
FIX THE GAME WE ARE PAYING FOR!!!!
Because you see even you can understand that right now its voices of discontetent. Tommorow its cancel subscription measure of discontent.
Doubt it? Just add time and current policy and check out the equation.
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T'aun
Priory Of The Lemon
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:03:00 -
[257]
I'll vote in the next 18 months when these "spacial distortions" are fixed
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:04:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Voting for this game right now would be the most stupid thing any player could do atm if you think the game needs fixing
things
We're ****ed because there are BADLY broken game mechanics, Faction Warfare being one, a broken weapons system, rockets, graphics that have been downgraded, Capital jump effect, graphics have been outright removed, engine trails.
Now it's geting to a point where 0.0 fights are lagging out to hell, worse than before, people are getting angry about it, and THEN they tell the CSM "We'll fix broken stuff after this fluff is finished, in oh, 18 months", wonder why people are upset about that, and then post a list of their teams, that proves that they're putting a minimum into EVE, while it's broken with things that have been broken for months/years, and the lag is the worse it's been in years
THEN they ask us to vote for them for "Best game"
I've been polite about problems, I've been supportive to new idea. But I'm getting sick of them sweeping broken things under the carpet ------------------------
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:08:00 -
[259]
I voted for BF2. Eve online used to be the best online game before Dominion. Not anymore i'm sad to say. ----------------------------------------
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Helen
Resonance. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:16:00 -
[260]
Heh TIME TO NUT UP OR SHUT UP |
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MadManMaura
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:17:00 -
[261]
How have the graphics been downgraded I have not noticed that?
And there has always been lag it seems with big fights, there tech cant keep up with demand it seems.
So what are the huge issues people have against the game. I play and it seems fine, I go out on roams with gangs of 20-30 no problem.
All my weapons fire right, it seems that way anyway. And I still love this game. I am confused about all the negativity.
But I will say this I seriosly doubt there not going to work on the game at all for 18 months that would be beyond stupid.
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Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:19:00 -
[262]
http://i26.tinypic.com/jihuhg.gif ________
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Team Dresch
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:21:00 -
[263]
Is there any way to voted AGAINST Eve?
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Timaios
Cruoris Seraphim HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:22:00 -
[264]
CCP, I'm somewhat curious about your need to be the best online game. After all, you stated that polished quality does not sell better than new features. And since you seem to believe that, why are you even seeking to be the best online game?
I'm guessing best means something else than having most unpolished features.
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MrEMan
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:23:00 -
[265]
best troll ever CCP, i will vote for you in 18 months time when you decide to come back and fix this broken game. Voted for 1943 because anything is better then EVE atm :(
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Trauli
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:23:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Trauli on 28/07/2010 13:24:48 Good lord CCP.
You have been given enough warning about what the community thinks of the current state of the game. If the suits that call the shots there have not gotton the message yet, well theres not a lot else we can do to help you. Sorry v0v
I already permanently got rid of one account, planning to do the same with this one once it expires too.
:Words: are irrelevent to us now, we need action.
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Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:24:00 -
[267]
oh btw to the ones arguin, this is just a minority of EVE players, consider this:
111,120(more or less) toons r in alliances intressed in 0.0 SOV space (check DOTLAN for numbers)
now u might answer: 1- some are incative , u wondered y? 2- some are alts on a single account, true but most of 0.0 dwellers also have 1 or 2 (if not more) empire alts, not all running on the same account 3- your own fault by using the blob tactic, true, but EVE (dominion, when it all started goin south imo)was promoted like this
so let's say about 50k accounts (not players i know) might not be happy with how the games works atm, doubt the voting will go very well.
hope CCP guys will change their minds, 'cause i still think this is one of the best games (MMO speaking) i've played in the past 15 years, and that thanks to them (CCP guys), but is goin south...fast
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Velvet69
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:25:00 -
[268]
You got more front than Sainsbury's posting this.
OP reported for trolling.
Proud Member of 'The House of Prawn' If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions |
Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:26:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Ressiv on 28/07/2010 13:26:34
Originally by: MadManMaura
So what are the huge issues people have against the game. I play and it seems fine, I go out on roams with gangs of 20-30 no problem.
Your inability to envision 'large fleet' does not limit it's actual size. Think of 30-40 as pretty damn small mkay ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Magaskaweel
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:29:00 -
[270]
I think I might be one of the few here that actually wants Incarna, but to stop fixing bugs and generally working on the game for 18 months is stupid beyond belief. No vote from me.
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Ghost448
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:30:00 -
[271]
i vote for eve because i din't loose my optimism =)
-fix bugs please
ps good luck
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:31:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Voting for this game right now would be the most stupid thing any player could do atm if you think the game needs fixing
Ffs we are supposed to vote for the best European online game as it stands NOW. Simple as that. If you think that there is some other better mmorpg out there, worth my money and time, I'd really like to hear about it. I don't know any.
Sure Eve could use some fixing here and there just like any other mmorpg in the world, but it also needs to evolve. CCP said they planned from day one to create some sort of ultimate sci-fi simulator. I couldn't possibly know reasons why they've been stuck with that 'internet spaceships' part for all this years but if they really want to finally move and expand Eve they must do something about it. You could say that they did not choose right time, but let's be realistic: there is no such thing as right time not it will ever be. Remember we are talking about one mmorpg here: mmorpgs are never finished, they are always partially broken, and you can never expect perfect balance. Never. I've played enough mmorpgs in my life to know that Eve is --despite all its flaws-- far the best in genre, and comparing to other companies CCP is actually very good in what they do and how they communicate with their playerbase. It's ok if you don't believe me: then I'd strongly recommend you to try some other game... AoC, WAR, DF, you name it. But let me tell you this: if you played Eve for more than 12 months I guarantee you'll come back very soon.
Also... I see some people here are voting for other games even if they don't have slightest clue about them. Why? To look cool on these forums? How old are you guys?
I play games to have fun
EVE isn't fun for me because the things I enjoy dont work
Therefore EVE does not deserve my vote for "best online game", because it isn't.
It used to be, and I have a shred of hope that one day it might be again, but right now it's not. The possibility that it might be fixed a couple of years down the line doesn't do me the least bit of good right now.
If and when CCP do fix EVE so that I can have fun playing again, then I'll vote for them again. Simple as that.
And before you ask, I have cancelled all 3 of my accounts. 31 days left on this one. I'm hanging around to lend my support to proposals and ideas that might help encourage CCP to fix the game in ways that would restore my fun, but unless something really remarkable happens before 12:04 28.10.2010 that'll be it for me.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Ryuga VonRhaiden
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:31:00 -
[273]
I will certainly vote as soon as my schedule allows so. That will be, accordingly to my current plans, in 18 months or so. Thank you for understanding.
Do not try and find the signature... that's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth... There is no signature. |
Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:31:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Velvet69
OP reported for trolling.
rofls!
Of course its worth pointing out at this stage that the last thing CCP asked us to vote on was.....
THE CSM!
Aaaaand...they ignored them. Can we have confirmation that CCP will now also ignore the result of this particular voting process?
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Depili
Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:35:00 -
[275]
Yeah, I even registered there to vote something other than eve, because this "excellence" bull****, you keep breaking the server at DT's and refuse to fix anything, maybe in 18 months... which will mean you have missed two of your precious prizes by then.
Quote: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
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Bucky O'Hair
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:36:00 -
[276]
First, I LOVE this game!
I will continue to pay/play for a long time.
But, vote for it as online game of the year? I can not, in good conscious, do that.
I have not played any of the other games, but they can not be as screwed up as you have "developed" EVE into.
SERIOUSLY, how can you, CCP, think your game is worthy of any awards? Have you no Integrity? Have you no SHAME!
Forget Incarna, focus all DEV teams to fixing EVEà or the running joke of EVE is dying, may turn out to be a self fulfilling prophecy!
Again,
SHAME ON YOU CCP!
Bucky O'Hair
"If it flys it dies!"
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Doddy
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:38:00 -
[277]
Apocrypha, now there was a real game, RIP.
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Ghe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:40:00 -
[278]
Edited by: Ghe on 28/07/2010 13:41:43 No thanks.
If the game is fixed in 18 month (and im still playing) i will consider voting then.
Edit: did i just fall for the troll?
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Karles
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:42:00 -
[279]
Voted for Conan. You want my vote next year? Fix the game.
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HarshMistress
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:42:00 -
[280]
On the upside, CCP has managed to unite the warring factions of nullsec.
on the downside, it's because they've dropped the ball on fixing problems and managing 'the message'.
Fix the lag. Fix sov. Fix the goddamned game, then we'll talk awards.
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Yanna Karr
Universal Army Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:46:00 -
[281]
Edited by: Yanna Karr on 28/07/2010 13:46:26 Will vote in 18-24 months.
Maybe.
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Gajoleus
Gallente Solar Imperium
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:49:00 -
[282]
Originally by: HarshMistress On the upside, CCP has managed to unite the warring factions of nullsec.
on the downside, it's because they've dropped the ball on fixing problems and managing 'the message'.
Fix the lag. Fix sov. Fix the goddamned game, then we'll talk awards.
+1
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Sauer Hase
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Posted - 2010.07.28 13:51:00 -
[283]
Edited by: Sauer Hase on 28/07/2010 13:52:12
Originally by: Raphael Scoria Edited by: Raphael Scoria on 28/07/2010 12:29:22 I tried to vote, but first it said that there had been more than 200 votes cast already and locked up for half an hour before it loaded the page. Then I had to press the vote button about forty times before it registered, at which point it stopped responding and just kept trying to vote solidly for 45 minutes. Fortunately, none of them counted apparently, as I started bouncing back and forth between the poll page and the link that got me to it for about half an hour before my browser went black, my iPhone went on fire and I went to bed.
I complained that they'd not counted my vote for excellent space MMO Eve Online but they said that their records showed nothing and that it was my own fault for trying to vote in the same poll as more than thirty other people.
Yeah, happened to me also, they said they would maybe fix it in 18 months after walking in poll-booths was done.
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Mellissa
Vronsky Bros and Sons
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:00:00 -
[284]
Edited by: Mellissa on 28/07/2010 14:03:31 At this point i'm inclined to vote for LEGO world closed Beta. Not that eve is a bad game, but it needs to be fixed before i will have my vote.
So instead of barging into this forum saying vote for us. You might want to tune down a bit and start solving the issues that this game has at the moment.
Dmn LEGO world is not in the list ;(
Then again : Best European Game Batman: Arkham Asylum Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Dirt 2 Heavy Rain LittleBigPlanet PSP Trials HD
erm ???? who made this list. No Red Dead Redemption to name one.
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Putko
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:03:00 -
[285]
U cannot get vote whit this lame server that u have atm and i think u wont win the first place cuz u didnt deserve it. Maybe next year u have more luck if u fix a battle whit 100 players whitout lag.
o/
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Proksia
Amarrian Atheist Remuneration Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:04:00 -
[286]
Actually I don't like registering useless sites like this. I will never use it and probably will get a lot of spam. But because of lagfest, Bots, UI, Rockets, old bugs, I registered and voted for BF1943.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:04:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Cailais
Aaaaand...they ignored them. Can we have confirmation that CCP will now also ignore the result of this particular voting process?
C.
Of course they will.
If they dont win, they'll start saying "EVE is great we got Nominated" and act like not getting enough votes to win didnt matter.
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Bugcheck
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:05:00 -
[288]
I love eve but would I vote it for any award for gaming awesomeness? Heck no. Being a software developer I almost feel embarassed by the code quality and the lack of any real software development process to control regression and code quality during the codes life cycles. CCP really needs to get there stuff together and get a software development process in place that works, even just a little bit, to stop this endless cycle of user fustration and causing all the pointless whining. Pointless because CCP takes no pride in their product, they just take our money and invest it into new games to take more of our money. It's bad enough they developed a game you feel the need to have multiple accounts with. Now they are just adding a 3rd/4th for us to pay for. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Have some pride CCP, hire someone that knows what they are doing to put a software development lifecycle process in place and fix this endless cycle of software development fail. Quality products win awards, not the really cool doodles you drew on your napkins you managed to con us into buying.
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Mr Vor
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:12:00 -
[289]
You'll get my vote when you deserve it. With Tyrannis, you do not.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:19:00 -
[290]
Battlefield 1943 was good, has my vote.
(note: This is really an anti-vote because of the recent behavior shown by CCP as of late. Had CCP commited to "Excellence" EVE would be my vote, np.)
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Hra Neuvosto
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:21:00 -
[291]
Sent my vote with a rocket.
We'll see when it gets there.
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Slapnuts McGee
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:23:00 -
[292]
Sorry, when i went to vote there was a spatial distortion and the logs.....they show nothing.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:24:00 -
[293]
This is the first year in which I've played Eve that I can't in any conscience vote for you guys to get an award like that. The sad fact of the matter is that you haven't finished delivering the features from previous expansions and the core in-space game today cannot afford to be left alone for 18 months while you are developing Incarna and Dust. You need to change your development priorities a bit and have at least a couple of teams devoted to delivering previously promised features of past expansions and fixing the problems with the game we play (and pay for) right now.
You need to listen to the community on this. Eve needs development of its core gameplay and you need to be providing the features you have promised in previous expansions.
And the biggest issue for me personally? Calling it Eve on line Tyrannis in those awards. Tyrannis is the worst expansion to this game I have seen since 2003 in terms of lack of content and interesting things to do. PI is pretty terrible and wasn't worth waiting six months for. Sorry to be blunt but there it is. I'd have prefered a patch called "crime and corruption" that boosted FW, bounty-hunting and merc profession and concentrated on implimenting some of the CSM backlog together with minor combat fixes and Dierdra Vaals tradable kill rights system (5th subsystems for tech3 would be a plus).
At the moment I'm still committed to Eve because of my alliance-mates and my friends that play this game not because of any faith in your current development or belief you will fix these important issues and omissions from previous expansions. Take from that what you will, but it doesn't convince me to cast a vote for "excellence" that doesn't currently exist outside the huge assembly hall topic begging you to actually take notice.
Join the Revolution!
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JasonKuehn
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:27:00 -
[294]
The latest dev blog shows that approximately 15 out of 124 developers are working on something that the player base actually cares about. That is, fixing a game that worked pretty decent until the end of last year.
So, no. I wouldn't expect many votes from your players for best game.
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Callum545
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:28:00 -
[295]
Until you Fix lag ccp im voting for World of Tanks
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Derivative Mind
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:28:00 -
[296]
This thread is the most epic "**** you eve!" eve has ever encountered.
On the bright side, no, I won't vote for eve. enjoy. mind.Ö |
Grumpy0ldMan
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:29:00 -
[297]
Edited by: Grumpy0ldMan on 28/07/2010 14:29:42 yeah.. sweet.. thats wonderful
just a few questions... what do i get out of it if i vote for you?
do i finally get a lag free game? can i jump into a 0.0 system where there is a massive fleet fight and actually for once get reimbursed for my ship loss due to your poor game mechanic? will i acutally get correct customer service instead of the standard "copy and paste reply"? i think not.
i pay you my $ and that is all you get. when you give me a little more i'll give you a little more. until then, good luck
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:29:00 -
[298]
The fact you clowns are looking for an award for this broken pile of crap is hilarious. ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
DonSchoe II
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:32:00 -
[299]
No.
| Khai Alpha DonSchoe II| Mirkur Draug'Tyr, Ushra'Khan| | |
Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:36:00 -
[300]
I'd vote but I am afraid I have two projects completely unrelated to my main job that I won't be able to spare time to do this. Get back to me in 18 months.
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Asura Cascade
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:37:00 -
[301]
On the one hand, I love the game so much, but on the other are all these elder, more experienced voices raised in concern and genuine anger. CCP - you must listen and react. You have clearly got the wrong approach. Can it be so difficult to address the concerns that these players have, even some of the minor ones to show willing? What's gone wrong here?
I will not be voting for Eve Online until I feel that CCP are taking their responsibilities more seriously.
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Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:37:00 -
[302]
Edited by: Bobbechk on 28/07/2010 14:37:31 failsnipe
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Aeonium
Secret Squirrel Readiness Group Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:38:00 -
[303]
I would like to vote for EvE, but in its curent state, umm, NO. Fix the lag, and then I'll vote, gladly. It's kinda hard to understand why a constellation with 20 people has 15 seconds delays, and blackscreens when docking/undocking. I don't even wanna talk about systems with 200 people fighting eachother...
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FU22
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:40:00 -
[304]
hahahahahahahahaha
Originally by: Millie Clode Dear santa, for christmas I would like an endless supply of noobs to march across my screen so I can pretend I'm playing duck hunt
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:42:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair I have not played any of the other games, but they can not be as screwed up as you have "developed" EVE into.
You think so, eh? Well you should try some of those games and see it for yourself, you might be surprised. Really. Go ahead, buy that piece of s*** called AoC (I cannot believe people here are really voting for... that ) and get back to me in few months to tell me your sad story.
Meh. It's pretty clear to me that half of you ignorant haters haven't ever seriously played other mmorpg game because if you did you'd know how to value CCP's work. While the second half is probably made up of adolescents suffering from some strange teenage revolt syndrome. Here's hint for those: if you have that typical irresistible wish to oppose authorities so you can feel all cool and smart, you *might* have chosen wrong target - try your governments, Twilight series or Lady Gaga instead of CeeCeePee.
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Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:49:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair I have not played any of the other games, but they can not be as screwed up as you have "developed" EVE into.
You think so, eh? Well you should try some of those games and see it for yourself, you might be surprised. Really. Go ahead, buy that piece of s*** called AoC (I cannot believe people here are really voting for... that ) and get back to me in few months to tell me your sad story.
Meh. It's pretty clear to me that half of you ignorant haters haven't ever seriously played other mmorpg game because if you did you'd know how to value CCP's work. While the second half is probably made up of adolescents suffering from some strange teenage revolt syndrome. Here's hint for those: if you have that typical irresistible wish to oppose authorities so you can feel all cool and smart, you *might* have chosen wrong target - try your governments, Twilight series or Lady Gaga instead of CeeCeePee.
a wild White knight appears
seriously tho, Battlefield 1943 is moore entertaining then eve is now... ________
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RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:50:00 -
[307]
Edited by: RifterDrifter on 28/07/2010 14:50:19
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap argragarg
What's up with your Name anyway dude _______________________________________________
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William Pierce
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:51:00 -
[308]
Hahahahahahahahaha
No
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Juneau Chokis
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:51:00 -
[309]
I voted for EVE because of the following things I don't care about:
- Fleet lag - 0.0 Sovereignty Warfare - Blackops - Rockets - Low sec - PI - POS maintenance/standings - Sound - Socket Closed Errors - Assault Ships - CCP's commitment to excellence
But while voting for EVE Online: Tyrannis my browser blackscreened, then I woke up in Windows' login screen. When entering password Windows stuck on account selection for 15 minutes. Finally I got in, but opening the browser again took about 20 minutes, so I just closed it and went afk for 6 hours. Now my 5 hours of writing work is lost, I petitioned to Microsoft but they said the logs show nothing.
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:52:00 -
[310]
I would vote for a rollback to Apocrypha. We could actually have fleet fights then.
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Faloe
Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:53:00 -
[311]
Lag that removes "endgame" content from being enjoyed (big fleetwork, supercap deployment), no more development resources for your actual playerbase for the next few years, failsauce is being spread pretty thick around here.
No vote, not from me.
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Luthenis
Amarr The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:55:00 -
[312]
I tried to vote but after 46748976467 clicks the web still try loading.... i gave up :(
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Zloi Duh
Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:56:00 -
[313]
Edited by: Zloi Duh on 28/07/2010 14:56:11 I wish I could vote for this game, I want it to not suck, I really do. Maybe if CCP wasn't jumping up and down on one foot shooting at it furiously, we could take this request more seriously.
Fix lag, get props, acquire votes.
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Woulvesbaine
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:56:00 -
[314]
I tried to get a bunch of my friends to come in and post but we all jumped in at the same time and lagged out.
Sorry CCP.
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Petrus Blackshell
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:56:00 -
[315]
I would like to vote for Eve, since it is still my favorite game of all time, but I believe that merits have to be earned. Eve won GOTY and other awards because of the great community interaction it offered. The community then asked for some improvements, and CCP saw "nothing in the logs" and implemented SimCity in space instead. Once I can undock my ship and be sure that the distance to my target will update properly as I tackle it, I will vote.
Sort of funny. Sort of sad.
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JessiJames
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:01:00 -
[316]
LAG is the thing i care about, and this has to be fixed.
I can live with every other thing that others consider broken or your decisions to what content is developed. But lag is something one can not tolerate on a permanent basis.
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Vissios Altacras
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:01:00 -
[317]
Even Blizzard would have had devs make a serious reply to the community by now, as was seen when certain class changes happened. Blizzard came forward and explained what and why they were doing things.
CCP has totally ignored everything so far, and the community hasn't even had mention of CCP dealing with the problems that people have.
It was never flashy new things that attracted people to Eve, it was the massive 0.0 wars involving loads of meta-gaming, and now due to ccp's incompetance with the last few expansions that is quickly dying.
Voted BF1943, played it once or twice before and it was decent, thanks CCP for reminding me that I should help good games get awards. -------------------------------------------------
Official Goonwaffe External Recruiter
Must have a 500mil isk security deposit ready to be considered
Mail me for more info |
Snijder
Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:01:00 -
[318]
I'll post something encouraging later, once grid loads. Oh wait, we managed to cyno out safely. Fuel expended? Check! Able to move into safepos and log off until lag eases up? Check! Ok I'll log off.
If the supercap isn't dead when I log back on, I'll vote for EVE. Can you guarantee me that? Didn't think so - it died in the system it cyno'd out of.
No votes for this failscading nonsense.
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Daroch
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:02:00 -
[319]
Edited by: Daroch on 28/07/2010 15:04:19 Tried to vote for Tyrannis, but button just got stuck flashing red. Should I file a bug report?
Seriously, one year ago I'd have voted right away. Now these posts only make me angry.
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Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:03:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Bucky O'Hair I have not played any of the other games, but they can not be as screwed up as you have "developed" EVE into.
You think so, eh? Well you should try some of those games and see it for yourself, you might be surprised. Really. Go ahead, buy that piece of s*** called AoC (I cannot believe people here are really voting for... that ) and get back to me in few months to tell me your sad story.
Meh. It's pretty clear to me that half of you ignorant haters haven't ever seriously played other mmorpg game because if you did you'd know how to value CCP's work. While the second half is probably made up of adolescents suffering from some strange teenage revolt syndrome. Here's hint for those: if you have that typical irresistible wish to oppose authorities so you can feel all cool and smart, you *might* have chosen wrong target - try your governments, Twilight series or Lady Gaga instead of CeeCeePee.
Players aren't voting to AoC because they genuinely think its better than EVE. Theyre fecked off that CCP promised with each expansion to 'iterate and improve' on features such as Faction Warfare, Sov Warfare, Low Sec, Bounty Hunting, etc etc etc. Now we're told that these issue wont be addressed for at least 18 months.
On top of that game performance in terms of fleet battles has taken a sharp downward nose dive. And on top of that, having spent time supporting and voting for the CSM (at CCPs bequest) it transpires that CCP couldnt give a fat rats arse about it and blatantly told them to "come back later".
In short CCP stuck 2 fingers up to the players reps. So the players are sticking 2 fingers back.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Cannig Tol
Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:05:00 -
[321]
A+ troll
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Taeyn
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:05:00 -
[322]
Until the lag is fixed, NO
Seriously CCP must be seeing that people are getting fed up and leaving the game because of it
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trumpish
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:06:00 -
[323]
all these sad people that cry about lag and stuff yet you still play so for all its faults its still a great game. if i didnt have to register for everything to make my point id vote eve ftw. thanks ccp keep doing what you do :)
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FluffytheCarebear
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:08:00 -
[324]
Hey, 11 pages in 24 hours and 99% of it negative.
Chances that CCP will pay any attention at all.... NONE.
Latest CSM Minutes says it all: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
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LANAA
Gallente Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:09:00 -
[325]
I voted Yes.
i do live in 0.0 and do know of all the lag and stuff yes but eve is still 1 of the best games i have played since 2005 and hopefully i will continue to play it for long time.
but CCP please fix the lag in 0.0 when you fight 40 vs 40 you cant even activate your Highs.
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hugh hephner
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:10:00 -
[326]
best online game..... wait, u are joking right? lolz u really had me going.
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raizur
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:11:00 -
[327]
While I will be voting eve as the best there are very clear issues at hand that ccp would need to meet to keep my vote next year around.
A scheduled work plan for players to take interest in that details attempts to fix the issues within the game.
Drop not directly eve projects or find a better source of fundings then utilizing eve players subscriptions to develope said projects. At the very least show your paying, dedicated, downtrite fanatical subscribers how much your using of our subscriptions towards these other projects.
As a comment to add. While eve is the best mmo currently, people will only put up with neglegence for so long. and there are other space games that border on similarity coming out soon.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:11:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte Voting for this game right now would be the most stupid thing any player could do atm if you think the game needs fixing
Ffs we are supposed to vote for the best European online game as it stands NOW. Simple as that. If you think that there is some other better mmorpg out there, worth my money and time, I'd really like to hear about it. I don't know any.
Sure Eve could use some fixing here and there just like any other mmorpg in the world, but it also needs to evolve. CCP said they planned from day one to create some sort of ultimate sci-fi simulator. I couldn't possibly know reasons why they've been stuck with that 'internet spaceships' part for all this years but if they really want to finally move and expand Eve they must do something about it. You could say that they did not choose right time, but let's be realistic: there is no such thing as right time not it will ever be. Remember we are talking about one mmorpg here: mmorpgs are never finished, they are always partially broken, and you can never expect perfect balance. Never. I've played enough mmorpgs in my life to know that Eve is --despite all its flaws-- far the best in genre, and comparing to other companies CCP is actually very good in what they do and how they communicate with their playerbase. It's ok if you don't believe me: then I'd strongly recommend you to try some other game... AoC, WAR, DF, you name it. But let me tell you this: if you played Eve for more than 12 months I guarantee you'll come back very soon.
Also... I see some people here are voting for other games even if they don't have slightest clue about them. Why? To look cool on these forums? How old are you guys?
Quit trolling Zyrmy.
Ye'llo? |
Riviera Tendre
Cardboard. Vagrant Disorder
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:12:00 -
[329]
Lag, it ruins this game. I wish I could vote yes, but we're all treading water hoping it gets fixed before the summer winds down and we all have to find a good game to play that won't suck the fun out of the room.
No vote for a game that is stone deaf and irresponsibly running the wrong direction (aka directly away from keeping a hardcore userbase).
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Grumpy0ldMan
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:12:00 -
[330]
Originally by: FluffytheCarebear Hey, 11 pages in 24 hours and 99% of it negative.
Chances that CCP will pay any attention at all.... NONE.
Latest CSM Minutes says it all: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
yeah i'm actually surprised that the thread has not been locked yet as CCP hate negative feedback.
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Cenedra Martin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:14:00 -
[331]
Arma 2 is my vote, great game.
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:14:00 -
[332]
Is World of Tanks on that list?
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Drax Escobar
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:15:00 -
[333]
I can't wote for your game ccp ccp. I know you are trying hard to get things to work in the new pacth, but please fix the old stuff first don't build on bad code.
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Halarach
Amarr Triphase Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:15:00 -
[334]
Heh CCP.
What about NO?
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:19:00 -
[335]
This is now a textbook example of "thread backfire".
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
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Omni Zts
Spork Holding Inc Vagrant Disorder
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:19:00 -
[336]
IBTL!
LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG. Oh, and LAG. If I can't load grid, why should I log on?
Pffft.
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Corwin Amberite
Gallente Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:24:00 -
[337]
I wanted to vote for EVE but I can't load the grid for 2 hours now (I mean I can't load the page where I can vote). If I manualy cycle the refresh button I might be able to fire a round (I mean I might be able to load the page where I can vote). I think I'l give up now. On a second thought I might do some PI while waiting to load the gri-page. It's so fun and it will take me only 1752 clicks to restart my extractors. OH SNAP! I broke my mouse on the 5th extractor . Now I have to save to buy a new mouse. That will take me 18 months only.
P.S. CPP can you explain us about the new feature called "Spatial Distortions"? |
Mr Blue
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:24:00 -
[338]
I found it hard to log in to post, due to lag.
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Rognin
Minmatar The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:26:00 -
[339]
I'll vote for EVE when you fix the lag.
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Allan Glass
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:26:00 -
[340]
No. Just, no.
Not a bloody chance, CCP. |
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Noobjuice
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:34:00 -
[341]
I attempted to cast a vote but my screen went black. I'm sorry you're having trouble but my logs show nothing. We as customers hope ccp quickly recover from this loss.
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Suboran
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:37:00 -
[342]
when lag is fixed ill vote
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Phroso
The Resident Haunting Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:38:00 -
[343]
I was going to vote but I lagged out sorry ;)
Fix the server issues then I will vote !
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EC JuniorD
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:39:00 -
[344]
This is now a thread of trolls, if you catch my drift.
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ExhumeToConsume
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:41:00 -
[345]
CCP trolls their entire customer base ITT |
Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:41:00 -
[346]
Edited by: Mica Petrokov on 28/07/2010 15:47:17 Edited by: Mica Petrokov on 28/07/2010 15:46:03 Well that sucks... I blackscreened at the vote page. Gonna need to wait for the node to recover before I can place my vote.
For BF1943.
Not EvE.
Sorry.
Sucks to be you.
E: I wish tanks was on that list.
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Prannon
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:42:00 -
[347]
No. Negative. Negatory. Absolutely not. By no means. Negative. Never. Nix. No way. Not at all. Not by any means.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:42:00 -
[348]
Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 28/07/2010 15:44:07 I voted for arma 2.
(Hey ccp, your game sucks ass, i basicly log in to train skills in the hope you fix it in a decent time-frame, not 2 years from now)
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:43:00 -
[349]
save the thread and forward it on to pcgamer
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Tish Magev
NailorTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:44:00 -
[350]
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:44:00 -
[351]
Originally by: Prannon No. Negative. Negatory. Absolutely not. By no means. Negative. Never. Nix. No way. Not at all. Not by any means.
+1 for using an odd number of negatives whether it be intentional or not.
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Maurok Ortega
Minmatar Universal Army Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:50:00 -
[352]
NOT voting for eve this year due to the fact that over the past year EVE has been botched up far more than usual. Continously ignoring your long term players requests for better stability, improved performance and changes in certain flawed and overly vulnerable game mechanics. Such as the power structure in alliance and corporations and the horrid corp management GUI.
Instead focusing on new shiny features in an attempt at bringing in new players. While understood that new players is a good thing trying to make EVE appeal to the mainstream gamer is not. Its a special game and it takes a certain kind to enjoy it, please realise this again and remember why you made this game to start with.
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seliana tanis
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:53:00 -
[353]
Hopefully in 18 months poll will have World of Tanks on it. Till then, voting Bf 1943.
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deadmaus
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:55:00 -
[354]
Sure..when I can stop laughing long enough.
You guys, honestly. What I want to know is did the person who drafted that grovel do it with a straight face? |
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CCP Manifest
C C P
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:55:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts. --CCP Manifest-- |
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FU22
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.28 15:55:00 -
[356]
Edited by: FU22 on 28/07/2010 15:56:10 A wild CCP appears
Originally by: Millie Clode Dear santa, for christmas I would like an endless supply of noobs to march across my screen so I can pretend I'm playing duck hunt
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:00:00 -
[357]
Edited by: Mica Petrokov on 28/07/2010 16:01:31
Originally by: FU22 Edited by: FU22 on 28/07/2010 15:56:10 A wild CCP appears
Go Charizard!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:01:00 -
[358]
Originally by: CCP Manifest YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
/throws eggs
Ye'llo? |
Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:02:00 -
[359]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Shameful
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Terrestes
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:05:00 -
[360]
Yea right fix your goddamn game first.
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:05:00 -
[361]
Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 28/07/2010 16:05:41
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Unfortunately you aren't funny, you know what, you should actually leave the trolling to us forum warriors and you guys should get your act together and actually fix the damn game instead of adding useless additions! Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |
Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:06:00 -
[362]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Obviously not posting from office
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Fit Forunammar
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:06:00 -
[363]
eveonline deserves award for huge innovation and ongoing developement, but please sort out the mechanics issues that lead to heavy node lag (and therefore losses) as well as corporation and alliance mechanics, so that single char treachery can avoid all the battles we love so much - ie take sov by force only , not theft - remember isk is our real money!!
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Joker Deville
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:07:00 -
[364]
hahahahaha i LOVE how in just 1 day there is 12 pages worth of every single entity in this game trolling CCP about how horrible their game is.
You do not have my vote, not to mention I might soon cancel all 3 accounts I have because this game is seriously horrible nowadays.
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Bizarro Kale
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:08:00 -
[365]
Keep on building skywards while your foundations sink inexorably into the swamp.
Sounds like award winning architecture to me.
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Brigitte
S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:08:00 -
[366]
i wuld vote for eve if u take dominion out...sort lag...and boot zulu from cc p
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Vipy Styx
S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:09:00 -
[367]
hahahaha, epic failure there ccp lol. back-fired much?
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:09:00 -
[368]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
You are a brave man. Kudos for that.
Now, please pick your blackberry/IM/email and relay the message to all the other devs/executives that are on their endless vacations, that we haven't forgot about how broke the game is and that we are still waiting for that "transparent" response we were promised.
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:09:00 -
[369]
Edited by: Xtover on 28/07/2010 16:09:56
Originally by: CCP Manifest
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
oh, darn.
so does paying $32/mo to look at a black screen.
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:13:00 -
[370]
Edited by: Mica Petrokov on 28/07/2010 16:13:49
Originally by: Xtover Edited by: Xtover on 28/07/2010 16:09:56
Originally by: CCP Manifest
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
oh, darn.
so does paying $32/mo to look at a black screen.
Protip: stop paying $32/mo then. Your isk and items will still be there whenever you reactivate! I know I dumped all but one account when they got rid of ghost training, just reactivating them on those 5-day offers every once in a while to get a bit more free training in.
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Murrior
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:13:00 -
[371]
I'm now a big fan of Zymurgist though.
There literally couldn't be a better time to make this thread
This is hilarious.
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Sjoor
S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:13:00 -
[372]
Can we vote for dust and walking in stations? At least we know 80% of dev time is allocated there.
We should do the zulupark sig again.
Originally by: CCC Mitnal Locked.
Please use more content in opening posts.
In our experience using one or two liners inevitably leads to a decline in the standard of posting within the thread.
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:15:00 -
[373]
Edited by: Xtover on 28/07/2010 16:15:46
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Protip: stop paying $32/mo then. Your isk and items will still be there whenever you reactivate! I know I dumped all but one account when they got rid of ghost training, just reactivating them on those 5-day offers every once in a while to get a bit more free training in.
ironically, they don't offer a clear way to unsub when you pay with a CC.
I filed a petition a week ago, but, yeah...
once I get it done I'm unsubbing both accounts.
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:16:00 -
[374]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Really? Thanks for letting us know you care. I'm sure we're all laughing now.
(Except me, I don't find this entertaining at all, and I only mention this because I detect a hint of sarcasm or otherwise unwelcome humor)
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Tez Saurus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:16:00 -
[375]
**** no.
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IAmA Narwhal
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:20:00 -
[376]
i voted for EVE: Online
best game ever!!
o7
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Steely Dhan
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:22:00 -
[377]
Edited by: Steely Dhan on 28/07/2010 16:26:22
Originally by: CCP Manifest
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
I like to fleet battle, but lately it hurts.
Yeah we are all hurting, remember this is a game we love and spent years of our life at. We have invested just as you have. Please for the love of god address the issue ( the elephant in the room). |
Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:22:00 -
[378]
Originally by: IAmA Narwhal i voted for EVE: Online
best game ever!!
o7
Another CCP alt detected!
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:22:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Xtover Edited by: Xtover on 28/07/2010 16:15:46
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Protip: stop paying $32/mo then. Your isk and items will still be there whenever you reactivate! I know I dumped all but one account when they got rid of ghost training, just reactivating them on those 5-day offers every once in a while to get a bit more free training in.
ironically, they don't offer a clear way to unsub when you pay with a CC.
I filed a petition a week ago, but, yeah...
once I get it done I'm unsubbing both accounts.
click EvE Account Management on the left and log in. Cancel Subscription is on the right under common tasks!
Already I'm more useful than CCP's entire customer service team!
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Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:22:00 -
[380]
yeah gonna vote for EVE Online right now as Game of the Yahauhasjdkfalsdfjsalkfljaslfskjlfs
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CCP Manifest
C C P
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:23:00 -
[381]
Originally by: MistressDoom Edited by: MistressDoom on 28/07/2010 16:18:35
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Tish Magev
Quote:
I wonder if Zymurgist or any other CCP employee will dare to post on this thread
lol dare to post? no of course not, you're lucky if they even bothered to read past page 1. They'll have seen the negative comments and marked the thread off.
This thread is probably even blocked off in their internal networks so none of the devs or general lackys get a whiff of how fed up with their pile of crap people are. You don't want to lower employee moral while they're slaving away at all the shiney new features that brings in the money!
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Really? Thanks for letting us know you care. I'm sure we're all laughing now.
(Except me, I don't find this entertaining at all, and I only mention this because I detect a hint of sarcasm or otherwise unwelcome humor)
EDIT: And maybe you should be a bit more cautious about approaching a thread full of disgruntled customers. I am an active subscriber of 3 accounts and I am NOT happy.
I am well aware of the passion behind all the posts here, even though many of them utilize quite clever humor as a tactic for relaying disatisfaction (killmail one).
I was not being sarcastic or trying to be humorous in return. Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well. --CCP Manifest-- |
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Japanx
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:24:00 -
[382]
Sorry, but our logs do not show nothing like you mention in the petition: "Vote EVE as best Euro game" Please refer to Eve-Online.com/forums to read about our current EVE status and you will notice your request is no longer valid.
Regards,
Japanx
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deadmaus
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:29:00 -
[383]
Originally by: CCP Manifest Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
Thankyou |
Nardman
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:29:00 -
[384]
Why the hell would anyone vote for EvE?
This game is "okay", but it's broken and until the lag situation gets un-****ed, it will be far from the best game in any category.
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iridize
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:34:00 -
[385]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I am well aware of the passion behind all the posts here, even though many of them utilize quite clever humor as a tactic for relaying disatisfaction (killmail one).
I was not being sarcastic or trying to be humorous in return. Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
However I, along with everyone reading this thread, eagerly await an official CCP comment on this. Or is it going to be forgotten just like the dev blogs we were promised from the CSM ?
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:35:00 -
[386]
What I'd like to know is what we have to do to get CCP to change their priorities, to convince you that you are seriously jeopardizing this game by staying on your current course? You clearly aren't listening in a constructive way.
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MyMainIsBiomass
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:36:00 -
[387]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
You know what else hurts?
Spending thousands on a brilliant game developed by a superb company, built on the foundation of devs who are gamers and who cared and listened to their customers and tried to add long-term value to the game - even though they didn't always get it right, they tried. They were the best in the business.
Then this company turns into a frickin corporate monster who now values nothing but the almighty new subscription dollar, built on the foundation of a deceptive Marketing team who will pull ANY trick for new column inches and new subscriptions, who no longer values or feels loyalty to current players and would rather see them f*ck off so they don't have to revisit old content which will not add $$$ to fund new games only they care about.
You have done an absolutely FANTASTIC job of alienating once loyal players. Congrats.
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sartorii
Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:36:00 -
[388]
6+ year Veteran checking in. 3 Accounts counting down (pay yearly) 3 inactive accounts already.
No. CCP has failed to live up to the promise their game once had.
protip:to unsub if you use a credit card change your renewal period. When the current subscription expires it wont be renewed.
"disconnect and self destruct one mullet at at time" [sic] |
Stevobob
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:37:00 -
[389]
But guys... Planetary Interaction.
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:38:00 -
[390]
This honestly is a bit funny. I cant make out if its a brilliant ccp troll-post, with an agenda to let the playerbase vent, or a serious fail-post akin to the greenpeace-kitkat incident. Link
My honest opinion is still that EVE has a unique gameplay. The problem seems to be that ccp are not aware what the core qualities of the game is, and keep doing foot-in-mouth in its future development and its general direction. Some ideas and upgrades seem to have had some good ideas behind them, but they tend to fall on their face and not get much fixing post patch.
Personally I have been posting for years now trying to get some attention from devs and community alike to try and focus on small easy changes with great impact, and getting rid of ANCIENT unfixed/changed features.. (the Fail bounty system is the most obvious)..
I wish I could vote for EVE on an award like this, but honestly I think the only thing left I log into the game for is the chat client and saying hello to people.
I would consider voting for EVE having the coolest (toughest sometimes) community, and some of the most interesting developers.
/Gone to do ceremonial magic to fix EVE, and the LAG.. <- I almost forgot to mention that..
Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge ****tails and Dreams. |
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:38:00 -
[391]
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
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Kaalyx
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:42:00 -
[392]
LOL CCP... fix the game first instead of adding new $h!t that breaks all the old broken $h!t...
Game of the year... bwahahahhahahahhahahaha
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:42:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
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cotcodac
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:44:00 -
[394]
Whenever you hit the lag wall, instead of whining on this forum (helps for nothing) go tell your opinion, leave your comment on the review sites, the one that people uses to chose their next games to play and the ones CCP uses to promote their game. Here are few examples:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/eveonlineapocrypha?q=eve%20online - this particular one is used by Steam and European Games Award in giving Eve Online a score.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/eveonlinetyrannis/review.html?tag=tabs;reviews
http://www.mmocrunch.com/mmorpg-game-list/?game=eve-online
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14
If you go check the sites out you'll see how conveniently they are basing their score on Apocrypha and some reviews back from May 2009. Feel free to drop European Games Award a line about this too @ http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/contact
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:45:00 -
[395]
:not-sure-if-serious:
Seriously, you gotta be kidding me with this ****.
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Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:48:00 -
[396]
Originally by: CCP Manifest Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
I would hope that you would. In fact I would hope that most CCP Devs didnt even need to have threads passed to them and that they would actively read the forums and play EVE anyway.
What's much more concerning is the feeble (if any) response which rarely cuts the the core of the players concerns.
Most, if not all, marketing departments will listen and act upon their customers concerns - you're part of CCPs marketing effort: why aren't you doing so?
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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c42manel
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:55:00 -
[397]
CCP thanks for letting us make this group therapy and so we can express our mood.
Hillman please comment the acccions to resolve the lag problem.
your clients are waiting your answerd to this problems.
Best Regards
Manel.
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Prez21
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:56:00 -
[398]
WOAH how can you actualy make that post and not be embarrassed, infact just go **** yourselfs.
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Aveng3X
Caldari Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:57:00 -
[399]
Not voting 'till you fix the game, just sayin' __________________________
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Elendar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 16:59:00 -
[400]
Start treating EVE as a game and investing in the playerbase rather than treating it as a business pyramid scheme to be maintained by constantly aquiring new customers while leaving the old ones to fade away and i might vote for you.
Pre dominion i would have, now with the ammount of work being put into stuff that noone who actually plays the game cares about? not a chance.
Maybe in 18 months time, assuming i haven't unsubbed my one remaining account by then
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CCP Manifest
C C P
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:01:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP. --CCP Manifest-- |
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Gerard Vineyard
Caldari Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:01:00 -
[402]
I tried to vote... but the vote button cycled endlessly... maybe I will try manual cycling of the vote button... oh wai... the voting system doesn't have a point... warp out.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:07:00 -
[403]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Lovely. However your development calendar/budget is set so nice words mean nothing.
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:08:00 -
[404]
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Good! I hope you mentioned that retention of existing customers is just as important as getting new ones. Keeping existing customers is easy and is guaranteed income, while enticing new people is more difficult. And given the current game state, the possibility of keeping new players past the trial period seems to be quite small!!
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Trauli
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:09:00 -
[405]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
At least thats something. Thanks CCP Manifest, you are pretty chill dude.
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Darriele
Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:09:00 -
[406]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Screenshots or it never happened !!1
Anyway... to vote or not to vote, that is the question .. Inappropriate signature removed.Applebabe |
Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:10:00 -
[407]
Originally by: CCP Manifest brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
sadly the game dont really need marketing atm but i guess your orderd to monitor this kind of stuff.
lets hope someone who can actually do something about the problems gets it, and you guys in marketing can convince those guys that without a game to marketing you all will be out of jobs eventually.
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:11:00 -
[408]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
And then what? They delete the mail and pretend they are running a great game with great features and great playability and think they will be winning that award for sure??? Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |
Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:11:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Elendar Start treating EVE as a game and investing in the playerbase rather than treating it as a business pyramid scheme to be maintained by constantly aquiring new customers while leaving the old ones to fade away and i might vote for you.
To be honest, that's how most MMOs work most of time. Even WOW switched to that model with WotLK. But EVE is a very niche market that has survived with its small fanbase and them having gazillion accounts. If CCP wants to go that route they have to get rid of entire current playerbase and acquire new 300,000 sheep who will pay the sub for couple of months and then leave. Of course since its pointless to play EVE for just couple of months that would require complete redesign of skills and skill requirements.
And there is only one big mainstream MMO on the market forever, Blizzard's. You are either satisfied with your niche or you crash and burn after couple of months like every single MMO trying to compete with WOW did.
Polished content =/= broken and unbalanced content. |
Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:12:00 -
[410]
voted for battlefield. I don't even play shooters, I don't even know if this game is a shooter __________________________________________________
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:13:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Gerard Vineyard I tried to vote... but the vote button cycled endlessly... maybe I will try manual cycling of the vote button... oh wai... the voting system doesn't have a point... warp out.
You can not warp as you are warp scrambled by someone who is already dead.
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Gjs312
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:15:00 -
[412]
Edited by: Gjs312 on 28/07/2010 17:16:34 I activated my vote 10 mins ago for bad company 2 and it seems it wont deactivate, I'll try relogging but I'm afraid my logs are just going to tell you to **** off. |
Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:19:00 -
[413]
Unfortunatly i am busy doing other unimportant stuff, ill try and look at voting for you in 18 months when i am done.
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Torok Nakaht
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:21:00 -
[414]
Edited by: Torok Nakaht on 28/07/2010 17:21:31 3......2.....1..... GO World of Tanks would get my vote atm.
Edited : Cat Dog Lobster!!
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:21:00 -
[415]
Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 28/07/2010 17:22:08
Originally by: SkinSin
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Good! I hope you mentioned that retention of existing customers is just as important as getting new ones. Keeping existing customers is easy and is guaranteed income, while enticing new people is more difficult. And given the current game state, the possibility of keeping new players past the trial period seems to be quite small!!
They don't get new customers if they don't satisfy the existing ones. This is one lesson learned from the NGE, SOE deliberately SET OUT to cast off their (then) 200,000+ existing customers because they thought their new direction would net them far more than that. Which of course didn't happen, the fact that the NGE sucked aside, who is going to join a MMO with a ****ed off and rapidly diminishing customer base?
Also, CCP, we don't WANT to be here complaining about the game. We WANT to be able to go to the voting site and vote for this game. Unfortunately though, if you don't change your development priorities to fix the existing problems I'm afraid the logs are going to show you aren't going to win this award. Tyrannous doesn't DESERVE this award.
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:22:00 -
[416]
CCP Manifest,
This post was worth reading through the past 14 pages,
Thank you, An Eve Fan who wants to stay that way.
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
CCP Commit to Excellence by September 1st 2010
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Arimathea Anthalas
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:24:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Shadoo :not-sure-if-serious:
Seriously, you gotta be kidding me with this ****.
Quoting this for great justice. C-J was the pinnacle, half the grid nonexistent, friends I couldn't even see who were 5km away getting DD by titans they couldn't even target, locking messages repeating for five minutes and still no lock, these only the most bizarre problems I've seen in my last year of EVE and your company has no clue how to solve it.
The data doesn't support that quality sells better than new features. It's not going to support it either because there is no way I am voting for this tripe.
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Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:28:00 -
[418]
Guys guys
"Excellence"
*rimshot*
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:30:00 -
[419]
Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/07/2010 17:30:31 Can I vote for Eve: Apocrypha?
-Liang
Ed: Spelling. #epicfail -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:32:00 -
[420]
Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
Originally by: Shadoo :not-sure-if-serious:
Seriously, you gotta be kidding me with this ****.
Quoting this for great justice. C-J was the pinnacle, half the grid nonexistent, friends I couldn't even see who were 5km away getting DD by titans they couldn't even target, locking messages repeating for five minutes and still no lock, these only the most bizarre problems I've seen in my last year of EVE and your company has no clue how to solve it.
The data doesn't support that quality sells better than new features. It's not going to support it either because there is no way I am voting for this tripe.
We couldn't even have a fight in Providence with only 250 in system last weekend. It's pathetic and unacceptable. Back when Apocrypha came out we could have fights larger than that on unreinforced nodes with little or no problems and have fights with over 1,000 on reinforced nodes.
What has happened is because CCP has failed to stop the system from regressing with subsequent releases and we are back to arguably a WORSE position than we were in before Apocrypha. And they won't do anything about it until their current development cycle is done.
Hey CCP, lag DOES have another solution you know, other than investing our money in solving it (rather than developing a console MMOFPS) but that alternative solution isn't palatable: It's called players quitting the game, thus creating less stress on nodes.
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:32:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Also, CCP, we don't WANT to be here complaining about the game. We WANT to be able to go to the voting site and vote for this game. Unfortunately though, if you don't change your development priorities to fix the existing problems I'm afraid the logs are going to show you aren't going to win this award. Tyrannous doesn't DESERVE this award.
This.
We like EVE, we want to play EVE and tell all our friends how awesome it is. But you CCP aren't providing. CCP, your only real source of income, 320.000 subscriptions to EVE Online are all about that tiny irrelevant "in space features" part of your lovely EVE universe, you know the part that has only 22 developers working on it for next two years.
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SkwisgaarSkwigelf
C.R.M Productions
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:35:00 -
[422]
Yeah I'll vote when I can jump into a system that has a couple caps on the field without jumplag.
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Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:35:00 -
[423]
Hey CCP maybe the sticky was a bit premature what do you think
(I think it was a great idea)
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Valin Maradine
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:37:00 -
[424]
The crackhead hates the rock, but he'll still show you a good time in the parking lot to get it. I posit that:
You're all whiny children. -or- You all have an MMO addiction. -or- You're not, in fact, quite as down on the current state of affairs as you imply.
Empirical evidence and anthropic reasoning strongly point at door number 3.
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iridize
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:38:00 -
[425]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
As widely read as the CSM mins were before distribution?...
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Montar Ran
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:40:00 -
[426]
Dont you think now is the time to push the dates for incarn and dust back and fix the lag and everything.... just a thought... i think majority of the player base would enjoy that better.
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Kinsy
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:41:00 -
[427]
Your having a ****ing laugh, CCP.
The game has never been so unplayable and full of pointless 'upgrades' and 'features' since Dominion.
Get your head out your arses and fix the lag; I've barely played the past 6 months of the past 6 years i've played this. Pre-Dominion, the game was just about coping & I was enjoying it.
Inappropriate content for signature, please change. ~Weatherman |
Deliora May
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:43:00 -
[428]
Okay, now this post has me "slightly" upset. Let me start on the basics: You want the vote of course to get more people to play eve and make more money but here is the question: How will that IMPROVE our current game? I'll be plain honest, I haven't been in EVE for too long but there are some terrible things out there and the fleet lag is just the tip of the iceberg that everyone is able to see. You are priding yourself on that your game is a sandbox and that everyone is able to do anything in the game with the THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLAYERS. Alright, let's have a look at reality. Unexpectedly (because that is what happens if there are alot of people online by chance) a CTA is formed and people do not submit it to you and we encounter another fleet. Are we supposed to go back home, write you a long ass essay, tell you that you should feed the hamster more nutrients so that our cluster can take the fight for 5 minutes? No thanks! If you compare CCP with a jewelist, it comes across pretty similar. You are currently mass producing many flawed jewels (features) that you throw into a big bunk with other jewels that are partly flawed and party working, thus reducing the overall worth of the game experience. THE MORE FAULTY STUFF YOU ADD, THE MORE YOU WILL HAVE TO FIX IN THE END! I'll stop here before I'll start cursing and swearing, bottomline is: Give us a better performance and I'll gladly give you my vote.
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Nekre
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:44:00 -
[429]
we wants more wruuuum ... make it go faster !!!
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dreadnatty
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:46:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Ifly Uwalk I would have voted for EvE before Dec 1st 2009.
+1
also, i tried to post this with my main, but Eve forum fails to let me in so i won't vote for CCP in the web design category either.
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LJB
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:49:00 -
[431]
Okay i always thought that ccp were comedians but cmon please ?
i would say Eve still scores highly in most areas, but due to the current bugs there is no way in good humor i could bring myself to vote for it,
Also i will be posting this thread to my corp m8's who would probally agree.
LJB DION CEO
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:49:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Montar Ran Dont you think now is the time to push the dates for incarn and dust back and fix the lag and everything.... just a thought... i think majority of the player base would enjoy that better.
Their excuse from that one Dev post was that the Devs they have on Incarna and Dust aren't the kind of Devs who could fix the server node performance problem.
Which isn't an excuse at all, it's an admission of failure of management: failure to staff the company with the personnel they need to perform the necessary tasks.
Which is all ultimately the CEO's responsibility.
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DurrHurrDurr
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:51:00 -
[433]
You want to know what the best part of EVE Online is?
The fact that I've been stuck in an unpopulated system (9 person average) in Deklein for more than two days.
I can't undock, I can't access my wallet, I can't leave my ship. I can't interact with the vast majority of the game. It took me almost thirty-five minutes to get a petition filed through the lag.
I guarantee you I'm not going to get even a 24 hour addition to my subscription either.
CCP: I enjoy your game. It's fun, it's extremely in-depth, and the one thing that I feel sets it apart from other games is the scale of player activity. 40 person mining ops, 500 person fleets, 1000 person fights. It's a scale of PVP you don't see anywhere else.
However, I have been literally stuck in an empty system for almost two days. This is absolutely unacceptable for me as a customer, and I feel personally insulted that CCP thinks I am going to put up with this sort of seemingly random game-halting latency for an 18-month timetable.
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Halarach
Amarr Triphase Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:51:00 -
[434]
Truth be told, I wouldn't advise Eve to any friend in its current state, and it saddens me a lot. I begun playing with QR and it was awesome. First huge battle, 1200 in local and guess what, very playable. I've been very surprised over the time tho that nothing I personally as a pvp player wished was being fixed (rockets, omen, capricious/laggy overview for example) but useless features added instead. I then begun to understand the marketing team must have had taken over the dev/design team.
And now we are here, with a broken game.
I wouldn't advise any friend to join, no. Can't tell him to come on an op in a rifter and wait 5 minutes for grid to load when jumping in a system with 300 in it.
I would have at the QR/Apoc age, **** yeah.
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:54:00 -
[435]
you must be ****ing joking. pre-domination i would have, but since then you have screwed some many things up and not fixed or even admitted.
so no i will not vote for a unpolished unfinished half arsed game company.
maybe in 18 months
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:54:00 -
[436]
How much you wanna bet the planetary interaction part is what is causing the overstressed nodes, and CCP knows it, and taking that out (which would wipe the whole Tyrranus expansion) is not an option because the whole reason they added it was for DUST514.
No shiny planets, no planetary interaction, no DUST514.
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Zeturi
Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:55:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Dzajic
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Also, CCP, we don't WANT to be here complaining about the game. We WANT to be able to go to the voting site and vote for this game. Unfortunately though, if you don't change your development priorities to fix the existing problems I'm afraid the logs are going to show you aren't going to win this award. Tyrannous doesn't DESERVE this award.
This.
We like EVE, we want to play EVE and tell all our friends how awesome it is. But you CCP aren't providing. CCP, your only real source of income, 320.000 subscriptions to EVE Online are all about that tiny irrelevant "in space features" part of your lovely EVE universe, you know the part that has only 22 developers working on it for next two years.
If this was posted say a year and a half ago when you could have 1500 people fighting in a system I would actually have voted. But considering I only even have 1 of 3 accounts active at the moment (training in hopes that PVP doesnt fail soon tm) due to the lag issues thats just not going to happen. Better luck next time. I also may have voted if Tyrannus was about dinosaurs.
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Gjs312
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 17:57:00 -
[438]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
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Eradicator44
Dissonance Corp The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:02:00 -
[439]
Im not voting for EvE Online
Get these bugs sorted in the game and this lag issue sorted, then ask and maybe we may.
I say give more attention to your EVE ONLINE players and FOROGT dust and all those other games you greedily want! Eradicator44 Dissonance Corporation |
Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:03:00 -
[440]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Marketing meeting. Marketing managers, the most useless types of human beings on Earth.
I think CCP went downhill when they brought in the Marketing managers.
Guys, Devs, if it wears a tie @ work, shoot it. They are killing your business!
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:05:00 -
[441]
Sorry , can't find EvE in the turn based strategy category.
Fix stuff and talk to us again in 2011.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:06:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Valin Maradine The crackhead hates the rock, but he'll still show you a good time in the parking lot to get it. I posit that:
You're all whiny children. -or- You all have an MMO addiction. -or- You're not, in fact, quite as down on the current state of affairs as you imply.
Empirical evidence and anthropic reasoning strongly point at door number 3.
-or- I don't pay with my own cash to play anyways. Yay for PLEX.
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Shobon Welp
GoonFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:06:00 -
[443]
Edited by: Shobon Welp on 28/07/2010 18:07:54
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Is World of Tanks on that list?
You shouldn't have WoT on the list seeing as half the features are missing, there are numerous bugs, and it needs a few more months of testing before its ready for release.
But then, all that applies to EVE as well!
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panterus29
Gallente Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:07:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan How much you wanna bet the planetary interaction part is what is causing the overstressed nodes, and CCP knows it, and taking that out (which would wipe the whole Tyrranus expansion) is not an option because the whole reason they added it was for DUST514.
No shiny planets, no planetary interaction, no DUST514.
tbh i noticed just after dowtime today, wherein apparently some defragmenting was done, when i went to scan resources on my extractor i didnt get buggy lag and have the resource extraction list stutter into view. it seems to me all the constantly moving data on 69000 planet all across eve is using quite alot of database. i also noticed that was the major change i noticed in playing after the last extended dowtime as well. Seems very likely as a cause of the recently increased lag issues. maybe there is a need for planetary resources to run on segragated database/nodes.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:11:00 -
[445]
Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 28/07/2010 18:12:19 Lots of tears about missing/broken features.
The reality: you're all here, ain'tcha?
I have an idea about the engineering effort of keeping something like EVE alive and kicking. I have a great fondness for the brutal universe our lords and masters in far Reykjavik have created for us. All that is far more valuable to me than the odd bug or not-yet-perfectly-implemented feature.
The core business is untouched: you still get to inflict yourself upon your fellow capsuleer, you can still roam free and be the blight on the land. You can still execute a 'monkey steals the peaches' maneuver and yank, with relish, the male reproductive glands from your opponent's body and rejoice in your victory. None of that is diminished by a bug here and there.
Please, stop whining, it's unbecoming.
I have, with great pleasure, voted for EVE as the best online game. And you have [or should] too. And you know why: because it damn well is the best online gaming experience out there.
CCP, not all your customers are spoiled children. Thank you for an awesome user experience.
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temp't ress
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:11:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Ifly Uwalk I would have voted for EvE before Dec 1st 2009
QFT
Originally by: Ae0lian I feel bad for CCP... many of these comment must hurt...
as if they a) read this b) care whatsoever
voted Puzzle Pirates ;)
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:12:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Valin Maradine The crackhead hates the rock, but he'll still show you a good time in the parking lot to get it. I posit that:
You're all whiny children. -or- You all have an MMO addiction. -or- You're not, in fact, quite as down on the current state of affairs as you imply.
Empirical evidence and anthropic reasoning strongly point at door number 3.
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:16:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Dr Valeri
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
You do not get to judge how others experience the game. That is not your privilege. If he wants to suck roids in Empire 23/7 that is his prerogative. He is just as much a capsuleer as you are, his actions and goals are his sovereign will.
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Arakkis Melanogaster
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:18:00 -
[449]
This thread is full of some p. good trolls. The OP is the best one though. |
Min Asta
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:18:00 -
[450]
Eve-Online is the only online game I have ever played...and I enjoy it! That being said, I would expect for known issues to be resolved. I understand that as a business, your customer base must expand. However, an interest in attracting new players is beginning to appear like a disinterest in those you currently serve. I cannot in good conscience cast a vote.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:19:00 -
[451]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
Originally by: Dr Valeri
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
You do not get to judge how others experience the game. That is not your privilege. If he wants to suck roids in Empire 23/7 that is his prerogative. He is just as much a capsuleer as you are, his actions and goals are his sovereign will.
And I dare to say you are ANOTHER idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Water Spirit
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:20:00 -
[452]
Have we reached a consensus yet?
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Darriele
Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:20:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 28/07/2010 18:12:19 Lots of tears about missing/broken features.
The reality: you're all here, ain'tcha?
I have an idea about the engineering effort of keeping something like EVE alive and kicking. I have a great fondness for the brutal universe our lords and masters in far Reykjavik have created for us. All that is far more valuable to me than the odd bug or not-yet-perfectly-implemented feature.
The core business is untouched: you still get to inflict yourself upon your fellow capsuleer, you can still roam free and be the blight on the land. You can still execute a 'monkey steals the peaches' maneuver and yank, with relish, the male reproductive glands from your opponent's body and rejoice in your victory. None of that is diminished by a bug here and there.
Please, stop whining, it's unbecoming.
I have, with great pleasure, voted for EVE as the best online game. And you have [or should] too. And you know why: because it damn well is the best online gaming experience out there.
CCP, not all your customers are spoiled children. Thank you for an awesome user experience.
And you my friend, you are just part of a minority. This game isn't called for nothing a MMO, it should sustain massive amounts of players on any given situations and so far it doesn't do it gracefully. Everywhere you look in this forum you see lots of threads regarding "lag" issue, for example. I guess those threads weren't made just for the sake of posting on a forum. Inappropriate signature removed.Applebabe |
Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:21:00 -
[454]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
Originally by: Dr Valeri
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
You do not get to judge how others experience the game. That is not your privilege. If he wants to suck roids in Empire 23/7 that is his prerogative. He is just as much a capsuleer as you are, his actions and goals are his sovereign will.
Lol you really don't know why ppl. play this game right?
Now, ****off fanboi!
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:23:00 -
[455]
Originally by: Min Asta Eve-Online is the only online game I have ever played...and I enjoy it! That being said, I would expect for known issues to be resolved. I understand that as a business, your customer base must expand. However, an interest in attracting new players is beginning to appear like a disinterest in those you currently serve. I cannot in good conscience cast a vote.
This is where CCP is wrong. If the game worked, then the players would be their best marketing tool. If this thread is of any indication, the players aren't giving any decent word of mouth referrals. I sure as hell wouldn't try and convince a friend to play. In fact, I would discourage them from getting into it at this point in time.
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Ocularus Xenos
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:23:00 -
[456]
I'm deff gonna vote. Just not for eve. I wish SC2 was up there. Take a page from that book and take your time, don't fancy **** up. Stick to your roots and do it right and the players will literally get wet in the pants for your releases, not cry bitter tears of sorrow and despair.
If it takes drastic action to fix it, I think the player base would be willing to handle that. I'd let you have a week downtime if you made sure it was fixed and gave us a week on our payed time.
No vote for you.
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:25:00 -
[457]
Bad Form ... Don't attack people on the forums, you don't get a KM for it.
Stay constructive please, Apollo
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
Originally by: Dr Valeri
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
You do not get to judge how others experience the game. That is not your privilege. If he wants to suck roids in Empire 23/7 that is his prerogative. He is just as much a capsuleer as you are, his actions and goals are his sovereign will.
And I dare to say you are ANOTHER idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
CCP Commit to Excellence by September 1st 2010
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WarGod
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:27:00 -
[458]
Oh lul CCP, you have done nothing but pack your game with useless features that are not really important and at the same time, compromised the original function of the game to implement them. The longer this went on for the louder the voice from players informing you about such issues yet you disregard them and now the game is at an ALL TIME LOW.
I hope you get hit by a tram.
P.S. im not voting.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:28:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
The core business is untouched: you still get to inflict yourself upon your fellow capsuleer, you can still roam free and be the blight on the land. You can still execute a 'monkey steals the peaches' maneuver and yank, with relish, the male reproductive glands from your opponent's body and rejoice in your victory. None of that is diminished by a bug here and there.
Actually, the point your missing is that we can't, in fact, do anything to each other as the game breaks when more than 2 of us get mad at each other and start shooting.
To go on with this, Dominion introduced new sov mechanics, with structures that have HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of hit points, that require large fleets of the Caps, or MASSIVE battleship fleets to even put a dent in them (seriously, if you've got 70 guys, that are in battleships, your looking at 2-4 hours of shooting to reinforce one and you have to do that THREE TIMES).
So its a cycle, we have to bring 398028493 people to make it less painful (I would actually cause bodily injury to the man that chose the HP numbers, irl), and when you do that, the game instantly breaks, or god help you, the defender tries to defend, the game instantly breaks.
So basically, **** you buddy.
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Halarach
Amarr Triphase Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:28:00 -
[460]
Edited by: Halarach on 28/07/2010 18:30:17
Originally by: Jack Gilligan How much you wanna bet the planetary interaction part is what is causing the overstressed nodes, and CCP knows it, and taking that out (which would wipe the whole Tyrranus expansion) is not an option because the whole reason they added it was for DUST514.
No shiny planets, no planetary interaction, no DUST514.
Wanna bet 20b isk.
Lag appeared way before PI. As far as I remember it appeared with the new fleet system (fleet advert and stuff)
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Treyah
Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:31:00 -
[461]
Edited by: Treyah on 28/07/2010 18:34:48 Edited by: Treyah on 28/07/2010 18:32:00 Any pilot that lives in 0.0 has likely seen alliance wide Pvp and will tell you this: Eve is broken. Spur of the moment, you know - real and live, large scale Pvp just stalls out in space while you sit there waiting 5 minutes, plus, for you to either realize you've been dead for a long time or for your guns to cycle once on a target that has since warped off...or whatever freaking plausible analogy you'd like--point being: You're likely doing nothing useful in any event because the freaking game isn't responding.
Yeah best game ever, in theory, that I'll buy. But honestly, Eve is garbage in its current state. Plain and simple. I, like hundreds--albeit thousands--of other players am waiting on 'the next' game to get here, and not suck upon release. Then I'll leave and be done with CCP and their lag excuses permanently. I know that I'm not alone here in saying that Eve's best years are behind her.
The game continues to offer less and less. No, I'm not talking about the current expansion either. That's for another thread. I'm talking more about what has always been one of the greatest appeals that Eve has to offer: politics in a video game. When Eve was newer and fresher then, we as her pilots, we're also more shocked and awed at what we saw taking place in this so-called 'sandbox' of theirs. It truly was a great time to play the game. Now today, years later from when I began, the same trademark and signature back-stabbing politics are present, but is now coupled with this completely unplayable large scale Pvp garbage we are all infuriated about.
What I'm describing is the recipe for suck which CCP has whipped up and been force feeding us all. Now we still have the same old smack and banter with a new inability to do anything with that on a large, alliance-wide scale. I feel obligated to write, after all of my blistering comments, that remain because I really do like my Corporation and the Alliance that I belong too.
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:31:00 -
[462]
Well, guys, I tried to register to that site so I could vote for Eve, but a lightning strike or something seemed to block the email and really bogged my system down! I finally got myself around that, but I think it kinda stuck with me because my mouse could then only click once every 10 minutes. That's OK though, because I know those things can and do happen when you try to use a website. Those guys just sometimes don't have enough people to properly keep their equipment and software in good condition. I really feel for them. Good thing I don't have to pay them to use the sites though! The last problem I had really honked me off though. I finally got all registered and verified for the site, and right when I clicked the vote button (for Eve Online of course!!!!!) the website reverted my registered status to an earlier version! I had to verify my account again. Feeling thoroughly defeated after spending 10 hours trying to help my beloved CCP with this contest, I finally had to give up. I had to tap out. I waved the white flag and logged off in frustration.
I'll try it again tomorrow.
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:32:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Originally by: Valin Maradine The crackhead hates the rock, but he'll still show you a good time in the parking lot to get it. I posit that:
You're all whiny children. -or- You all have an MMO addiction. -or- You're not, in fact, quite as down on the current state of affairs as you imply.
Empirical evidence and anthropic reasoning strongly point at door number 3.
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
Oh look another mindless 0.0 drone who thinks that his playstyle/definition of fun is the only one valid. Congratulations, you've just managed to put yourself in 'whiny children' category.
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Nevets Estevan
F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:33:00 -
[464]
world of warcraft gets my vote
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HarshMistress
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:33:00 -
[465]
Originally by: Water Spirit Have we reached a consensus yet?
We may need a few more refusals and drive this **** into the ground entirely. Marketing tend to be a little slow on the uptake.
Hopefully they'll realise that there is such a thing as bad PR when this general air of dissatisfaction leaks out into the media. Of course, it's just the 'Lively and interactive community' bulletpoint for the next bullpuckey GDC keynote.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:34:00 -
[466]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Bad Form ... Don't attack people on the forums, you don't get a KM for it.
Stay constructive please, Apollo
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface
Originally by: Dr Valeri
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
You do not get to judge how others experience the game. That is not your privilege. If he wants to suck roids in Empire 23/7 that is his prerogative. He is just as much a capsuleer as you are, his actions and goals are his sovereign will.
And I dare to say you are ANOTHER idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
I value your opinion, but ppl. saying this game deserves a vote right now are:
1. Plain stupid. 2. Suck roids 23/7.
Fact is, as this thread proves, the game is UNPLAYABLE in null-sec with more-or-less heavy numbers. I actually lagged out with a <200 fleet fight. I have shot my OWN POD to actually get back to a station. I have seen my POD kill mail and I didn't got the BS killmail I was flying at the time.
I am also a Supercap Pilot: I WONT field it coz. I am not willing to lose it to LAG/CCP. I have worked hard in this game to get in a Super for over 3 years now, and I can't field it coz. this game is BROKEN!
Add injury to insult with their "18 months" drag-queen outfit (WIS) expansion and I am very, very close to say goodbye to this game. This is a game I love, the best game I ever played. But even I, fanboi #1 is getting desperate atm.
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Jasmin Soulscream
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:40:00 -
[467]
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
~~our logs show nothing~~
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Forlorn Wongraven
Universal Army Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:41:00 -
[468]
Eve is the only game I play for some time now and I still enjoy the community. Last year eve was great - server stable, compared to current server lagfree. I have 4 accounts running and I keep them - but a vote for the best game EVE won't get from me. There is no alternative out there available and I get the feeling CCP knows that and therefore does not care. ____________________
Lord Makk > I swear to god if there is a saviour, his name is Forlorn.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:41:00 -
[469]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Originally by: Valin Maradine The crackhead hates the rock, but he'll still show you a good time in the parking lot to get it. I posit that:
You're all whiny children. -or- You all have an MMO addiction. -or- You're not, in fact, quite as down on the current state of affairs as you imply.
Empirical evidence and anthropic reasoning strongly point at door number 3.
And I dare to say you are an idiot who is prolly sucking roids in empire 23/7.
Oh look another mindless 0.0 drone who thinks that his playstyle/definition of fun is the only one valid. Congratulations, you've just managed to put yourself in 'whiny children' category.
No, actually I am present in 0.0 and run a personal Empire alt corp.
But you are prolly paid by CCP to be a pro-troll so DIAF, thank you.
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Treyah
Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:43:00 -
[470]
Originally by: Jasmin Soulscream
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
~~our logs show nothing~~
That's because there is no freaking log of anything other than who or where you got your ISK From lmao. We should all maybe try doing market transactions during pvp to give them something to look at
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Bazman
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:45:00 -
[471]
This thread is comedy gold right from the first post -----
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Lynn Deniera
Caldari The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:47:00 -
[472]
I tried to vote for eve, but I was stopped by a spacial distortion. Sucks eh?
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:50:00 -
[473]
Originally by: Bazman This thread is comedy gold right from the first post
First post was the best post, C/D?
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Valin Maradine
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:52:00 -
[474]
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Fact is, as this thread proves, the game is UNPLAYABLE in null-sec with more-or-less heavy numbers. I actually lagged out with a <200 fleet fight. I have shot my OWN POD to actually get back to a station. I have seen my POD kill mail and I didn't got the BS killmail I was flying at the time.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you know that 500ish hair-flaming wild-eyed posts on the forums doesn't not constitute proof of anything, and that you are writing for dramatic effect.
But since we're making baseless sweeping generalizations to rally the crowd, I'd state that there's a large silent majority that enjoys the hell out of this game, and is too busy playing it to care about the forums, best game votes, or either of our opinions on the aforementioned matters.
I don't like that you're unhappy, and I don't like CCP's dev priority, but neither of those distastes are strong enough to make me think I'm not getting my money's worth out of my subscription. If that were the case, I'd quit. What's your story?
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Darken Two
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:53:00 -
[475]
no..no.....no........no...............no
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:54:00 -
[476]
I still love EVE and enjoy playing it alot. I can however not encourage you on your current developement path by voting for you. Instead of remaining passive by not voting I registered and voted for one of the other games so you would have less chance of winning it. I hope this and the great ammount of other players doing the same will give a wakeup call.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:55:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Bazman This thread is comedy gold right from the first post
Yeah I said as much to Draelor. I was falling about laughing at some posts.
Sad thing is that CCP deserves ALL of it. Enjoy lads, this is what your customers think about the last 8 months.
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:55:00 -
[478]
Oh my god! It's a threadnaught. Haven't seen one of those since... aww.. you guys
ITT: Goons still feeling butt hurt
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
Deliora May
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:55:00 -
[479]
Originally by: Lynn Deniera I tried to vote for eve, but I was stopped by a spacial distortion. Sucks eh?
I wonder what kind of excuse they'll make when the server crashes completly. "Our CPU's got swallowed by a black hole?" Place your bet now, the winner get's nothing but the bragging right of having been correct!
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:00:00 -
[480]
I came into this game in RMR and I was completely blown away I spent the 1st hr of my game life just staring at the vastness of space and how beautiful that 500mb download was.
yrs later apocrowhatever came out and again my jaw dropped fighting in a system with 1400 people was one of the fun-est damn things I have ever done in this game it was truly amazing.
Then came dominion and this **** were running now and you have reduces my beautiful game to shooting red ****ing crosses till I want to smash my face off the wall until I reach brain, Spinning ships or more often than not logging in to prove to my corp. mates that I'm still alive and switch skills (to be fair though I am getting through those nasty long as l5s I need done).
and you want us to prop up your egos and make you think that its OK to churn out **** and not fix anything by voting for you in a popularity contest? Short answer you gota be ****ting me no chance probe to us you love us and we will return that love 10 fold.
I got a lot of people interesting this game I refuse to do it now as the last one rage quit during his trial because of clipping issues getting you hung up on crap that isn't there. An issue that has been there since BEFORE I joined.
hope this helps with "the data not supporting that polished quality sells better than new features"
TL:DR urinate off
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:03:00 -
[481]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
And how does that matter? We've heard so much of "We're looking into it" about macros, petitions, bug reports that are dismissed because some bug hunters don't even understand how wide spread the reported bugs are, et cetera. Stuff like that is just not enough any more. Right now you supposedly talking about it is about as credible as CCP reading the CSM meeting reports (when they didn't).
Talk is cheap man, anyone can say stuff. SHOW US
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altnumber
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:03:00 -
[482]
Quote: I play games to have fun
EVE isn't fun for me because the things I enjoy dont work
Therefore EVE does not deserve my vote for "best online game", because it isn't.
this
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The Truckdriver
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:04:00 -
[483]
Get rid of logg offski's, thats been ingame for 5 years now, before i consider voting for u. Every patch u release new bugs.
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Capt Clavain
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:04:00 -
[484]
Posting in epic thread for good karma. Hi mom.
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RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:06:00 -
[485]
Originally by: The Truckdriver Get rid of logg offski's, thats been ingame for 5 years now, before i consider voting for u. Every patch u release new bugs.
And how exactly, kind sir, is CCP supposed to stop people from logging of? _______________________________________________
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:08:00 -
[486]
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
hahahahaha marketing people
Since when has marketing anywhere given a crap about quality? ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:10:00 -
[487]
Originally by: RifterDrifter
And how exactly, kind sir, is CCP supposed to stop people from logging of?
Trolling 4tw RifterDrifter.
CCP knows when the client initiates a logoff rather than timing out (which is intermittently broken now too).
Point stands.
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SIEGE RED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:10:00 -
[488]
Edited by: SIEGE RED on 28/07/2010 19:11:55
Originally by: cotcodac Whenever you hit the lag wall, instead of whining on this forum (helps for nothing) go tell your opinion, leave your comment on the review sites, the one that people uses to chose their next games to play and the ones CCP uses to promote their game. Here are few examples:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/eveonlineapocrypha?q=eve%20online - this particular one is used by Steam and European Games Award in giving Eve Online a score.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/eveonlinetyrannis/review.html?tag=tabs;reviews
http://www.mmocrunch.com/mmorpg-game-list/?game=eve-online
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14
If you go check the sites out you'll see how conveniently they are basing their score on Apocrypha and some reviews back from May 2009. Feel free to drop European Games Award a line about this too @ http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/contact
Looks fully in line with the metrics CCP use for business development, marketing and exposure management. I doubt they see anything wrong there :P Btw, keep in mind, these kind of nominations are mostly peer advertising deals.
Originally by: Gjs312
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
This is a heck of a post btw
Yeah. Although I think some CCP decision makes should be included on that killmail, but I imagine that because of lag or a node crash the killmail is incomplete.
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Xiang Jiao
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:11:00 -
[489]
I think you will find that this thread will have the opposite effect of what you intended.
Most will vote for anything BUT Eve Online.
Good show! Learn to polish your turds a little more before to present them on the mantle.
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Katrinazinski
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:12:00 -
[490]
Hmmm... this thread needs to be locked until after the ETHICS COMMITTEE completes its investigation into the question:
IS IT ETHICAL TO ASK NON-EUROPEANS VOTE for this award?
Is this an evil practice, CCP? Where's your CORPORATE ETHICS, I ask!
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Sky Rodgers
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:13:00 -
[491]
I have to agree with people posting here. Eve is broken in more ways than one. Still a great great game, I have not found any other MMO that compares, but this doesnt deserve the votes.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:14:00 -
[492]
Originally by: Valin Maradine
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Fact is, as this thread proves, the game is UNPLAYABLE in null-sec with more-or-less heavy numbers. I actually lagged out with a <200 fleet fight. I have shot my OWN POD to actually get back to a station. I have seen my POD kill mail and I didn't got the BS killmail I was flying at the time.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you know that 500ish hair-flaming wild-eyed posts on the forums doesn't not constitute proof of anything, and that you are writing for dramatic effect.
But since we're making baseless sweeping generalizations to rally the crowd, I'd state that there's a large silent majority that enjoys the hell out of this game, and is too busy playing it to care about the forums, best game votes, or either of our opinions on the aforementioned matters.
I don't like that you're unhappy, and I don't like CCP's dev priority, but neither of those distastes are strong enough to make me think I'm not getting my money's worth out of my subscription. If that were the case, I'd quit. What's your story?
Like I said I value eveyone's opinions. My opinion about the game stands.
FYI I keep playing this game because I paid a few $1000 over the years and I still love it and really care about it. Problem is the game is BROKEN atm. Why can't you understand that?
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Bagdon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:16:00 -
[493]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
In other words: "We're looking at it."
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:17:00 -
[494]
Oh I forgot, remember to
send me your stuff
on the way out. Thank you
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:20:00 -
[495]
Originally by: Mr M Oh I forgot, remember to
send me your stuff
on the way out. Thank you
You prolly can't use it, coz of the lag :)
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:24:00 -
[496]
Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 28/07/2010 19:24:27
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: CCP Manifest I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
hahahahaha marketing people
Since when has marketing anywhere given a crap about quality?
Consider too that sales and marketing people in almost any organization are the most overpaid, yet least intelligent and knowledgeable members of the staff, only good at schmoozing.
There are two kinds of marketing people apparently: The overly well endowed ex-cheerleaders who become pharmaceutical reps, and the people who aren't who get hired by other companies who end up ruining their products.
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:24:00 -
[497]
lulwut?
NO
**** off. Get to work on fixing this mess.
Oh and I voted for Conan. Because it was featured on a "Big Bang Theory" episode and actually made me lol. And I'm a bitter old fart.
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:25:00 -
[498]
Everyone stating that 0.0 is the minority is ****ing dumb, including you CCP.
Try counting all the Alt accounts 90% of the 0.0 dwellers own that never leave empire that are making our isk and ships.
0.0 is the game. 0.0 is the majority.
Fix it.
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:25:00 -
[499]
lmfao and to add insult to injury i have been sat black screening logging on into a station for 5 mins and counting
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:27:00 -
[500]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 28/07/2010 19:28:27
Originally by: Mr M Oh I forgot, remember to
send me your stuff
on the way out. Thank you
Much like i can't in good faith vote for this game, I can't be your enabler. If I gave you, or anybody else my stuff, that would prompt you to continue playing, which is counter productive to what we're trying to do here: Force CCP to fix the game, or watch the company burn to the ground.
Evidently CCP does not take this threat to their corporation seriously, they should call Sony and ask what happens when they fail to listen to the customers, doesn't bode well when you have another game deep in development, which is tied into your current game, that is bursting into flames due to customer unrest.
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Coehoorn
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:28:00 -
[501]
"Vote for us, we're the good guys"
Sorry but.. NO!
Seriously, Complete lag-o-mess with some crazy fail-ideas...and you want an award ? Yup.. The Golden Raspberry in Game Industry.
Maybe you should try that with Dust... but in EvE, you'd better fix that mess first.
Regards.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:28:00 -
[502]
Originally by: sue AGPlant lmfao and to add insult to injury i have been sat black screening logging on into a station for 5 mins and counting
You are lucky, my sockets just closed on 2 clients \o/
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:30:00 -
[503]
Originally by: Coehoorn "Vote for us, we're the good guys"
Sorry but.. NO!
Seriously, Complete lag-o-mess with some crazy fail-ideas...and you want an award ? Yup.. The Golden Raspberry in Game Industry.
Maybe you should try that with Dust... but in EvE, you'd better fix that mess first.
Regards.
I vote that the name of the award that Tyrranis deserves should be called:
"The John Smedley award for MMO Mismanagement"
Find me a poll for that award and I'll vote for CCP.
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Neddy Fox
Gallente FireStar Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:30:00 -
[504]
Fix 0.0 first (fleet fights), then I'll vote.
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Pel Ukken
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:31:00 -
[505]
i'd be happy to vote for EVE but my logs don't show anything.
tyrannis is **** and you know it CCP, stop trying to circle-jerk yourselves into thinking you have an awesome product.
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Valin Maradine
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:33:00 -
[506]
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Like I said I value eveyone's opinions. My opinion about the game stands.
FYI I keep playing this game because I paid a few $1000 over the years and I still love it and really care about it. Problem is the game is BROKEN atm. Why can't you understand that?
I relent. If the only part of the game that gave me joy didn't work, I'd be angry too. Granted, I'd leave rather than shovel reactant into a threadnought.
Which, incidentally, gives rise to an absurd truth: If everyone who complained about lag quit, there'd be no lag.
Wait a minute.
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Alex's Slave
Gallente The.Usual.Suspects OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:34:00 -
[507]
Originally by: SIEGE RED
Originally by: Gjs312
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
This is a heck of a post btw
Yeah. Although I think some CCP decision makes should be included on that killmail, but I imagine that because of lag or a node crash the killmail is incomplete.
As the author of the killmail post I can in fact confirm that the killmail is incomplete. Unfortunately my logs don't show any more details so reimbursement will not be possible.
Also, thanks for the appreciation of the post - I'm here all week!
Alex
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Nardman
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:34:00 -
[508]
Originally by: Valin Maradine
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Fact is, as this thread proves, the game is UNPLAYABLE in null-sec with more-or-less heavy numbers. I actually lagged out with a <200 fleet fight. I have shot my OWN POD to actually get back to a station. I have seen my POD kill mail and I didn't got the BS killmail I was flying at the time.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you know that 500ish hair-flaming wild-eyed posts on the forums doesn't not constitute proof of anything, and that you are writing for dramatic effect.
But since we're making baseless sweeping generalizations to rally the crowd, I'd state that there's a large silent majority that enjoys the hell out of this game, and is too busy playing it to care about the forums, best game votes, or either of our opinions on the aforementioned matters.
I don't like that you're unhappy, and I don't like CCP's dev priority, but neither of those distastes are strong enough to make me think I'm not getting my money's worth out of my subscription. If that were the case, I'd quit. What's your story?
The large silent majority are the people that sit in Empire and carebear all day (the people that aren't part of 0.0 [or even lowsec] and haven't experienced this). Since that is the case CCP should advertise this game as the silent majority enjoys it. It should have been: "SIT AND ENJOY PEACEFUL MINING AND SHOOTING NPCS IN SAFE EMPIRE SPACE UNTIL YOUR HEARTS CONTENT". But with Dominion they advertised huge fleet battles, massive fights, etc. and pushed people to go into 0.0 to have these things and instead gave us a ****ed lag fest that prevents the very things they advertised from happening. Then instead of fixing these problems which have completely ****ed any chances of what CCP promised with Dominion, they keep adding new useless buggy content.
So we get to mine on planets now and will get to walk in stations some time soon--awesome, more chances to care bear. This game is moving further from the "sandbox" concept and closer to a single player game that could be played off line. This game is "okay", it's entertaining, but when the real action happens, the games ****s itself and becomes unplayable. And the devs response is "wait and see in 18 months", a.k.a. "**** you upset player base".
Mediocre game with shiney planets? Yes. Best game in ANY category? Not even remotely close.
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Coehoorn
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:35:00 -
[509]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
I vote that the name of the award that Tyrranis deserves should be called:
"The John Smedley award for MMO Mismanagement"
Find me a poll for that award and I'll vote for CCP.
THIS!
I'm afraid, that there will be no 0.0 fix, cause we need Incarna first! That will help with lags indeed.
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Feline Ferocity
Caldari Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:36:00 -
[510]
lol this thread.
Unbelieveable....
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Captain Yarrness
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:37:00 -
[511]
CCP will only listen up when the isk stops rolling in. DUST is taking precidence over eve (PI anyone?), unfortunately as we have all invested alot of our time, money and effort into the gains shown in eve (SP, SOV, Empires etc) they ahve us by the nuts. The PI thing is intended to get people dependent on planetary minerals so dust players come along and take them away, meaning eve players then go buy DUST as well to keep the income going (at least im guessing thats the scheme). Lag is making the game unplayable for me and tbh, im not sure im going to keep paying for something thats not delivering what it advertises itself to do. i noticed the shift on gameplay emphasis to PVE more and more, perhaos this due to PVP being so server intensive? I really dont expect a decent response to the issue as I am one amongst many, however if it isnt fixed I will make sure that I and my buddies put comments on every single comments section of every review site that covers eve including Steam etc. And no, I will nto be voting untill the game is fully fixed. |
Caruleum Ursa
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:37:00 -
[512]
Lag, what lag?
Poll, what poll? |
Zaxos385
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:38:00 -
[513]
Edited by: Zaxos385 on 28/07/2010 19:40:52 I would say CCP needs to listen to their paying members and fix the game and improve the quality of their customer service. Love this game some of the worst customer service i have seen anywhere at any point. Does CCP even care about the people that fund them? I will vote when they focus on fixing the current issues.
Best Regards, Zaxos385
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Inquisitor Cerberuso
Hounds of Helll Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:41:00 -
[514]
Tbh CCP, you are going the way EA went with C&C and other amazing franchises. Pushing expansions out with little care for the community and needing the cash from new subbers is milking a product that needs some TLC. After reading the CSM notes and making excuses that the resources have already been allocated is ridiculous, and being that EVE is the flagship product doesn't set a good standard nor a good enough response to the players that, well, pay your wage. If the resources have been allocated then unallocate them and go back to what you love doing - making better than great games.
Allocating time and resources is difficult in this particular era, but if you execute this you'll win back the players, the community and you can expect DUST 514 to sell better than ever.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO KILL THIS GAME BY POOR MANAGEMENT DECISIONS.
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Thorvik
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:42:00 -
[515]
Edited by: Thorvik on 28/07/2010 19:42:04 If nothing else this should tell you that your best marketing is in keeping your current user base happy.
I love the game still but....
See you in 18 months when you you have to make the decision to fix Incarna/Dust514 bugs or go back and fix the ones you left behind in the other expansions.
Let us know and we'll let you know how we feel about it.
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:42:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Valin Maradine
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Like I said I value eveyone's opinions. My opinion about the game stands.
FYI I keep playing this game because I paid a few $1000 over the years and I still love it and really care about it. Problem is the game is BROKEN atm. Why can't you understand that?
I relent. If the only part of the game that gave me joy didn't work, I'd be angry too. Granted, I'd leave rather than shovel reactant into a threadnought.
Which, incidentally, gives rise to an absurd truth: If everyone who complained about lag quit, there'd be no lag.
Wait a minute.
No you wait. We HAD "nice" (notice I didn't say perfect) fleet fights before Dominion, and they took it away from us. Every normal functioning company would revert the stuff that broke the original gameplay. But not CCP. They say its "spacial anomalies".
And for you information: I won't quit this game but, and that's sad, the only reason for me now to keep involved is the sheer amount of RL money and 100's of hours I invested in this game.
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Kythren
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:43:00 -
[517]
my logs show no poll ----- <sarcasm="inside"> murmur<->eve authentication script(python) http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Mumble, the |
PheeniX Fighter
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:43:00 -
[518]
Eve is a great game and has come a long way since its creation and i believe it still has a ways to go. I went and looked at the requirements for nomination and heres what it says...
* must have been released within a year before the award giving ceremony on one of the most important European games markets (England, France, Germany, Spain or Italy) or must have been released online, with exception only for the EGA Most Wanted category and the Special Prizes (Hall of Fame, Special Achievement) - here the organizer Aruba nominates the games in agreement with its media partners.
This has not been released within the past year so... with that saaid, this game already won awards and needs to give the new guys a chance to win it.
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Coehoorn
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:45:00 -
[519]
The main problem is :
If you play that game for 2-4 years, you simply can't quit it. CCP has made you a kind of junkie. You've popped serious Ca$h in this game, and they know that.
Compare EvE Staff from 4 years ago, and what we have today. They have our problems in their deep wormholes... They know, that you will pay, whatever will be.
And that made "quit game" so hard.
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Mu'n Hurricane
Minmatar Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:45:00 -
[520]
CCP hired guys from Lucas team? CCP, you don't hire guys from Lucas team.
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Not only marketing team should get it, the scale and the dangers of the current problems with eve should be clear to anyone who has anything to do with making decisions and implementing them - everyone in CCP, I suppose. Especially executives.
If problems not fixed and more things implemented - you get rolling ball of problems. Current development policy and distribution of resourses will ruin eve even more.
To be honest, the marketing team seems to be out of touch with reality, if they have something to do with that mad priorities in development. Are you sure you hired no guys who worked with Lucas before?;)
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airdefense
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:45:00 -
[521]
Ahahahahaha,
****, nonononononono
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GTN
Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:46:00 -
[522]
I just voted for BF =D
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Zee Wolf
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:48:00 -
[523]
Thanks for linking me to that pool, however i will be voting for whatever else is on the list. Your inability to fix what was broken in Dominion means that.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:49:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Nardman
So we get to mine on planets now and will get to walk in stations some time soon--awesome,
I for 1 would never get to walk in stations, as that would mean you had to subscribe to another CCP game , wich in my case will never happen until they fix our beloved EVE.
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Baroness D
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:50:00 -
[525]
If there is ever a vote to choose the game with the worst customer service let me know and I'll vote.
When you have your GM's lying to justify the loss of billions of isk you certainly don't deserve an award for excellence.
Example "I am afraid that we cannot reimburse losses suffered within fleet battles. This is a matter of policy I am afraid. This policy was put in place in the interest of fairness, as players enter fleet battles knowing that they will suffer from the side effects of the extremely heavy load. In addition, the heavy load affects all players in the battle equally, meaning that reimbursing individual players would upset the game balance."
Anyone who has ever been in 0.0 knows the effects are not equal which is why so many die without ever getting a shot off.
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Oso Mafioso
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:51:00 -
[526]
Do you think it's a coincidence that everyone is off playing Supcom, WoT and whatever else instead of EVE? No its cuz your game suxors atm. I'm with the others, fix the game, give me some free ****, or g2h.
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Valin Maradine
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:54:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Originally by: Valin Maradine
I relent. If the only part of the game that gave me joy didn't work, I'd be angry too. Granted, I'd leave rather than shovel reactant into a threadnought.
Which, incidentally, gives rise to an absurd truth: If everyone who complained about lag quit, there'd be no lag.
Wait a minute.
No you wait. We HAD "nice" (notice I didn't say perfect) fleet fights before Dominion, and they took it away from us. Every normal functioning company would revert the stuff that broke the original gameplay. But not CCP. They say its "spacial anomalies".
And for you information: I won't quit this game but, and that's sad, the only reason for me now to keep involved is the sheer amount of RL money and 100's of hours I invested in this game.
You're missing the joke. But you're angry and that's OK.
Regarding addiction, we've now come full circle, and that's my queue to abandon my investment in this thread and retire in defeat.
I try to lead by example.
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:55:00 -
[528]
I get more entertainment from Eve forum drama than I do from actually playing this spatially distorted game, so no vote from me.
There are two reasons I continue to subscribe:
1. My friends in CVA.
2. Playing a game apparently designed by Franz Kafka has a certain amount of novelty value.
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Jordan Musgrat
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:58:00 -
[529]
18 months.
On a serious note, I'd guess that over in teh CCP headquarters, most of the devs look at a thread like this and wonder where they ever went so wrong that when they ask for support they just get trolled by people from every state of the game. Then I bet there's a few guys who are like "there will always be haters, we have to move forward with what's best for the company." Unfortunately those few guys are going to be the downfall of eve. It's very possible that you'll make us wait so long for a good game, that when DUST comes out, we'll do our best to make it unplayable. We'll suicide DUST players, we'll troll the **** out of them, and we'll make these last few years an absolute waste. You're really getting us to that point CCP. You'd better make those npcs in DUST really fun, because if you keep ****ting our game up, DUST console ***s will not have any fun playing with us. -----------
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Cid Jorgumeri
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:58:00 -
[530]
I can vote in 18 months, will that help?
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spottington
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Posted - 2010.07.28 19:59:00 -
[531]
I love the game but i shall not vote for Eve Online, there is no evidence on my end that it deserves my vote. Also, my policy on voting is very strict an therefore my hands are tied. I hope this helps you improve your game and that you recover quickly from the loss of this vote. Best regards, Spottington Subscriber To Eve Online
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Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:01:00 -
[532]
This is an awesome troll.
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sinfulangel
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:03:00 -
[533]
WTF kind of troll is this.
Your game is broken, you've openly admitted to not doing anything about the core of the game (lol walking in stations, PI, DUST, etc....) for 18 months and you post this?
No way am I voting for Eve, this game is following the path of SWG. Wake up and realize it before it's too late.
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:04:00 -
[534]
Originally by: Grath Telkin which is counter productive to what we're trying to do here: Force CCP to fix the game, or watch the company burn to the ground.
There is about 500 text in this thread. A the same time there's 42,000 player who is online. 500 out of 42,000 is 1.1%. This might look like something big but it isn't.
Gimme gimme gimme all your stuff
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
Bazman
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:04:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Dr Valeri And for you information: I won't quit this game but, and that's sad, the only reason for me now to keep involved is the sheer amount of RL money and 100's of hours I invested in this game.
Thats not a reason to keep feeding money to a company for a broken product.
Look at it this way, you've paid and had your fun and now that time is over, move on. People unsubbing is unfortunately the only way that CCP is really going to get any sort of clue that what they are doing is bad for buisness.
I've been playing since 2004, ever since hearing about the 18 months thing I've been wondering why I'm sticking around. I can't seriously entertain the possibilty of paying to support some other game that I have no interest in being developed while the game I'm interested in playing is left to languish for 18 MONTHS.
So yeah, some random people around eve are about to receive some unexpected isk/module/ship pressies from me before I tuck away that capsule for good. -----
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:06:00 -
[536]
It would re really awkward if Massively or TenTonHammer did another article with yet more bad publicity for CCP, would it not?
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:06:00 -
[537]
I am currently using all my time i would usually spend playing eve, playing the Beta of World of Tanks. It is a very good game, and i suspect will be very sucessful. And given the amount of eve players i see playing it tells me that alot of people have deceided eve is not as important now due to the fact eve isnt very playable these days.
I log in once every 4 days to sort my POS's for a hour or so, but other than that i hardly play, and suspect i wont until the game is fixed.
The only way CCP will realise what a balls up there making is if a large portion of eve players stop playing, and make them realise how badly there decission making is affecting there current income.
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Shikome Alluin
Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:07:00 -
[538]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Excellent!
Fix the game and Ill vote for you when you deserve it! o/ Aloha mr Hand |
Ridjeck Thome
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:14:00 -
[539]
VAGBE (Voted for Any Game But Eve)
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:14:00 -
[540]
Here's something to calm you down with. Staring at boobs prolong your life.
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
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3 14rate
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:21:00 -
[541]
Edited by: 3 14rate on 28/07/2010 20:23:04 *Reads OP* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Originally by: Cailais Unfortunately I wont be able to vote right now - would it be ok to put my ballot in say oooh...18 months or so?
C.
^^This
Fix your game CCP.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:22:00 -
[542]
"Haha you zany playerbase with your killmails and witty comments. We(ccp) read this thread and we assure you we are paying attention."
**** you CCP. What we want are apologies and proof that you don't just read but comprehend and make changes to satiate your ****ed off playerbase.
Or you can keep believing we are simple a vocal minority that does not represent the opinions of the masses and give us features we have little desire for.
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:27:00 -
[543]
I tried to vote for EVE Online: Tyrannis but when i clicked on the link to take me to the voting page, the website just got stuck loading for a while. I figured it would sort itself out within a minute or two, but after sitting there for over 2 hours i didn't think it would ever happen.
When it finally loaded, my browser seemed to be incredibly slow - perhaps it was just hard drive thrashing, i don't know, but it was like a slideshow when i tried to scroll down the page and with the adverts loading. Anyway, keen to cast my vote i selected EVE and hit "vote," but i don't think the server responded to my clicks. No matter how much I kept spamming the vote button it just wasn't going through. In the end i just closed firefox.
I'll try again tomorrow...
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Vorstellung
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:27:00 -
[544]
best online game??? =.+
eve is fun and stuff but its crappy codet, grafix and sound sucks and its FULL OF BUGS / MISDESIGN thats in that game for months and years.
many a browser game is better! not better by the concept (this huge space sandbox is GREAT, no question) but seeing it as a piece of software: eve sucks!
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Marikitus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:34:00 -
[545]
Edited by: Marikitus on 28/07/2010 20:34:50 I vote EvE-Online for Best MMOLRPG Massive Multiplayer Online Laggy Role-Playing Game
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Ooc Pas
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:42:00 -
[546]
Tyrannis is great I dont even have to log in entirely to see how much time I have left until skill training is complete. o//
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Manique
Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:43:00 -
[547]
I won't vote period. There is no reason realy. I stand by the fact you guys need to better EVE before Incarna and Dust.
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SavageDream
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:46:00 -
[548]
Originally by: Valin Maradine
Originally by: Dr Valeri
Fact is, as this thread proves, the game is UNPLAYABLE in null-sec with more-or-less heavy numbers. I actually lagged out with a <200 fleet fight. I have shot my OWN POD to actually get back to a station. I have seen my POD kill mail and I didn't got the BS killmail I was flying at the time.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you know that 500ish hair-flaming wild-eyed posts on the forums doesn't not constitute proof of anything, and that you are writing for dramatic effect.
But since we're making baseless sweeping generalizations to rally the crowd, I'd state that there's a large silent majority that enjoys the hell out of this game, and is too busy playing it to care about the forums, best game votes, or either of our opinions on the aforementioned matters.
I don't like that you're unhappy, and I don't like CCP's dev priority, but neither of those distastes are strong enough to make me think I'm not getting my money's worth out of my subscription. If that were the case, I'd quit. What's your story?
My story is that I have invested 4 years building my characters and resources in a game that has been mostly very enjoyable. It is no longer mostly enjoyable and two things besides my investment keep me here: 1) the ability to pay for my accounts with isk, 2) the HOPE for improvement to get back to that mostly enjoyable. If I had to pay for my accounts with real life money, I would be gone.
In the past, I have been evangelical about Eve, bringing new players into the game and actively mentoring them to ensure their enjoyment. Now I tell friends to ask later, that now is not a good time to join Eve. (Did you hear that Eve marketing? You need to make a poping sound and regain situational awareness. Your existing player base has tremendous potential to help grow or help kill the game of EVE.)
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Zso Sahal
Minmatar Multiverse Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:46:00 -
[549]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I am well aware of the passion behind all the posts here, even though many of them utilize quite clever humor as a tactic for relaying disatisfaction (killmail one).
I was not being sarcastic or trying to be humorous in return. Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
Please... Please... Please use the killmail as the opening screen for your next powerpoint meeting w/ management. If they don't find it as funny as we do, something is seriously wrong.
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:52:00 -
[550]
for those interested in the saga I JUST got past the black screen and am now looking at my ship.
Now shoudl I spin clockwise or anti clockwise?
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Mulm
Minmatar DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:55:00 -
[551]
Eve is a decent chat client where you can organize people to go play other games.
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Menellaix
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:56:00 -
[552]
I forgot to turn off auto-repeat before I clicked the link
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Venomheart
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:57:00 -
[553]
Hmmm should I vote for a game I feel is falling apart ??? I have been part of the Eve community since the beginning of its existence . My first account was created in July of 2003.Since that time I have added 4 more. I have seen it grow into what it is today and I now feel it is falling to pieces for several reasons.
1. Most Gm's lack training of how the game actually works. ( Some of the response's I have gotten from petitions makes me think the gm's don't even play or have never played the game.)
2. Lag is at an all time High and so are the complaints about it
3. Content keeps being added without addressing the current bugs and problems. Just let the content go stale and fix what you have already. What good is new content if you cant even play the game. Do you think you can attract new players when all they hear from other gamers is the game is so lagged out you can even move when you see 30 other ships on the field
4.All the above is starting to really upset the people that made CCP and I feel CCP is letting this all happen.
I love this game but I also know all great things come to an end.So in lieu of the current situation of game play I have decided to liquidate most of my assets and buy plex's. Once I run out of isk, v0v its Biomass time.
Best Regards 5 accounts lost
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SavageDream
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Posted - 2010.07.28 20:58:00 -
[554]
Originally by: Mr M
Originally by: Grath Telkin which is counter productive to what we're trying to do here: Force CCP to fix the game, or watch the company burn to the ground.
There is about 500 text in this thread. A the same time there's 42,000 player who is online. 500 out of 42,000 is 1.1%. This might look like something big but it isn't.
Gimme gimme gimme all your stuff
Your math is invalid. Number of users online does not equal the true number of accounts and number of posters does not equal number of accounts represented by those posters. (in before you.... And you don't have to be online in Eve to post on the forum.)
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Shikome Alluin
Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:00:00 -
[555]
Originally by: sue AGPlant for those interested in the saga I JUST got past the black screen and am now looking at my ship.
Now shoudl I spin clockwise or anti clockwise?
DO NOT spin anti-clockwise! You need to spin clockwise to wind up the servers... its a new feature...
o/ Aloha mr Hand |
RaZoRiSe
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:02:00 -
[556]
i see many familiar face here thats why i am posting :P
lets clear smt EVE IS FOR EMPIRE SO 0.0 PEOPLE F_ _ K OFF :)
+1 to age of conan
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Pickled Peanut
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:09:00 -
[557]
Originally by: Shikome Alluin
Originally by: sue AGPlant for those interested in the saga I JUST got past the black screen and am now looking at my ship.
Now shoudl I spin clockwise or anti clockwise?
DO NOT spin anti-clockwise! You need to spin clockwise to wind up the servers... its a new feature...
NOOOO, you only got part of the instructions
It's spin anti-clockwise if you are in 0.0 and spin clockwise if you are in Empire.
that's the only way to get it to go tick - tock
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:11:00 -
[558]
I log into eve to get people to play tanks, hon, or bad company 2 with me. Oh and put some skills in a queue. Thats about it.
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DaKoo
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:16:00 -
[559]
LOL op is taking the ****!
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Sari Ajantes
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:16:00 -
[560]
Hey lord, i play eve for the go game!!
the mines clicking.. other than that , i really like rpg's single player... no lag in those!
wanna find myself another game this summer!!
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:27:00 -
[561]
Zym, you suck at PR. Manifest, you suck at PR.
CCP, you are not getting my vote. I love the game, but not without the development it deserves in its ongoing state.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:32:00 -
[562]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 28/07/2010 21:35:56
I tried to vote, when I clicked eVe for European Game of the Year all I got was...
"We're sorry for any inconvenience you may be experiencing, please submit a petition if you wish to discuss this issue further...in 18 months."
...sound familiar? Fix whats broken instead of making sub-par new content and you'll have my vote in a split second. I actually like eVe alot, but there is just so much wrong/broken in it that wasn't before...and you guys seemed to care about it then...start caring again!
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:37:00 -
[563]
I am not going to vote for anything EvE until you fix this game. its broke, you have had 7 months to fix the lag and you havent.
I might vote next year if the lag is fixed along with finishing some of the expansions you started.
Until then I will be voting for other games that dont lag out and their logs actually show something.
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Lord Cath
Amarr Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:40:00 -
[564]
No matter how much i love this game... Not voting untill a lot of needed fixes are done.
Btw. Kudos to CCP Manifest for at least talking to us and showing us that at least some CCP employees care. _________________________________________________
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:44:00 -
[565]
Take note on how much CCP seem to care about this thread, and the message it sends to the company (they don't, at all, we're just revenue that can easily be replaced in the marketing guys minds).
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DJ Kento
Minmatar Exiles Port of Call Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:46:00 -
[566]
Fix ur game first. Trying to get us to support a broken game on the world stage is a slap in the face to the eve gaming community.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:51:00 -
[567]
GodCat commands we condemn this thread
Fix EVE before you release more expansions that breaks it even more...
This is now a widot thread :) ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar TAKEN. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.07.28 21:52:00 -
[568]
Originally by: Optical Illusion I am currently using all my time i would usually spend playing eve, playing the Beta of World of Tanks. It is a very good game, and i suspect will be very sucessful. And given the amount of eve players i see playing it tells me that alot of people have deceided eve is not as important now due to the fact eve isnt very playable these days.
I log in once every 4 days to sort my POS's for a hour or so, but other than that i hardly play, and suspect i wont until the game is fixed.
The only way CCP will realise what a balls up there making is if a large portion of eve players stop playing, and make them realise how badly there decission making is affecting there current income.
World of tanks is the new EVE. And, this must be a troll, why would you vote on a broken game? Panzerarmy Derek, FORWARD!!
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:04:00 -
[569]
The amount of Eve players in World of Tanks really is staggering.
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ovenproofjet
Caldari Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:05:00 -
[570]
Edited by: ovenproofjet on 28/07/2010 22:06:02 Seriously CCP, how can you expect your own players to vote for Eve, when they can't even make some ISK in a system with 4 other people in it cos of lag.
I love Eve because I know what it can be but it is not worthy of an award in it's current state.
Now stop poasting f#cking nonsense and get on with FIXING THE F#CKING GAME!
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Pookclug
0utbreak Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:09:00 -
[571]
When you start paying attention to your customers needs and sort your "game" out. then maybe, but for now no chance.
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Seraphin Foad
Easter Corporation Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:12:00 -
[572]
Ive had locked guns, gate lag and even bombs hitting nothing despite being on target.
How about CCP fixes the problems and earns my vote.
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Drave McClay
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:12:00 -
[573]
When you respond to things like this with something other than sarcasm, then maybe i'll come back.
Unsubbed, peace out.
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coolrunnin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:15:00 -
[574]
Best Game? Love the game - but so much work needs to be done. I actually keep a list of the things that I would like to see...
1. Allow groups of disimilar drones 2. Offer a Booby trap bomb to place inside your salvage wrecks 3. Locate Friend Feature 4. Ability to turn on Auto Stacking in items folders 5. Station Level Scanner that helps you find hidden enemies in system 6. Hot keys: Auto target nearest enemy,fire all weapons at current target 7. Sort enemies to the top of chat list 8. ABility to sort by reds in local chat 9. Keep shooting after reload
Fix some of the basics - fix some of the fair fight issues, I've been playing for two years and feel like the game play issues are still troubling. A two year player should be able to take out an serious enemy or two. I'll have to train for the next decade to to some fighting superiority in this game.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:15:00 -
[575]
There'd be a greater chance of taking a dump in the queens handbag than ccp fixing their game at this point as they put their fingers in their ears and shout "lalalalalalalalalala can't hear you, eve is great, could not be better lalalalalala".
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S0mveraa
Amarr The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:17:00 -
[576]
<Screams from under his bridge "STFU up there i'm trying to play thought all this lag!">
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Rehtom Lamina
Hounds of Helll Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:18:00 -
[577]
CCP arrogance is amazing.
Thumbs down, voting for whatever isn't EVE.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:22:00 -
[578]
Originally by: Zso Sahal
Originally by: CCP Manifest
I am well aware of the passion behind all the posts here, even though many of them utilize quite clever humor as a tactic for relaying disatisfaction (killmail one).
I was not being sarcastic or trying to be humorous in return. Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
Please... Please... Please use the killmail as the opening screen for your next powerpoint meeting w/ management. If they don't find it as funny as we do, something is seriously wrong.
I just think they'll need a pp presentation on what a killmail is first.
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Dave Havok
Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:22:00 -
[579]
I hear it's cool to not vote for CCP...
+1 bandwagon
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DJB16
Gallente Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:24:00 -
[580]
Edited by: DJB16 on 28/07/2010 22:25:00 im not gonna vote with the current lvl of fail from ccp (see wot i did there?? )
sure eve is a great game but untill stuipid stuff like lvl getting taken over by TCU and station deployed/taken within 14 hours AFTER haveing ALL SBUs destroyed and everything of ours repped to 100% and the sov NOT contested or vulnable!! which under the new sov should be impossible
so untill this fails are fixed properly and the massive lag felt by everyone in a region (detroid is lagging like mad atm wtf have u done ccp put all of detroid on 1 node or sommit??????) so till ccp gets teh game working properly im not voting for it and with current ccp fail it doesnt look like im voting for 10 years.........
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Lyanca
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:24:00 -
[581]
I love this game, but if you're going to keep breaking it, I have to do something to show my displeasure. I am going to suspend the subscription on one of my alt accounts on september 1'st- There is a thread in Events & Gatherings covering this subject, and I encourage others to check it out. Money talks. Maybe if they see a drop in subscriptions, they will realize the importance of keeping customers happy.
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Bluelynx
Blue Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:26:00 -
[582]
Rush hour sucks right now, the road I take is in really awful condition, and although they've got roadwork signs up, and have had one lane closed for about six months, creating HORRIBLE congestion, I've never actually seen anyone working there. Evidently they decided it was more important to put in a new road to some place I never go, nevermind all the people that use that road getting more and more annoyed, not to mention the number of accidents its causing. Of course, the accidents are entirely the fault of the drivers, for not daily informing the department of transport that they will be using that road. What were we talking about? Oh, right. Sorry, I don't believe voting for the game I am loyal to, and have enjoyed playing for a year, will generate as much satisfaction for me as voting for some other game. Yes, I realise this makes no sense at all.
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Alathus Christensen
Caldari Blue Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:31:00 -
[583]
You know, I really would *love* to vote for EVE. But I just can't. Not right now.
Your players are in open rebellion, and slamming their heads against the brick wall that is your complete ineptitude at understanding the wishes of your customers.
Just think.. if you'd spent the money you spend on internet advertising (seriously, I see EVE banners EVERYWHERE).. on a few teams to work the backlog, you'd at least be accomplishing something.
P.S. - Saying that we get Dust and Incarna is a lot like saying.. Sorry, we're breaking the game YOU love to work on some features for other things. Here's a foot-long rooster in the posterior.
<3 EVE Brosefs
-=- -=- Onoes! Space Miens! -=- -=- Alathus Christensen |
StingerSharp
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:33:00 -
[584]
from last fanfest I remember CCP mentioning stage "Perfection" where thay going to focus on bug fixing after thay add Sims in stations, and intergrade CS-514 (with extra bug pack included) to fight for our PI that noone cares about. Em... Best game of the year? Maybe... in 2012?
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:35:00 -
[585]
Originally by: SIEGE RED
Originally by: Gjs312
Originally by: Alex's Slave snip
This is a heck of a post btw
Yeah. Although I think some CCP decision makes should be included on that killmail, but I imagine that because of lag or a node crash the killmail is incomplete.
You should be grateful a mail even generated at all.
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Alex's Slave
Gallente The.Usual.Suspects OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:37:00 -
[586]
I really am pleasantly surprised at how well my killmail post went down :) It's cool that CCP are actually seeing it and probably having a chuckle at it. I should print tshirts.
Alex's Slave
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:40:00 -
[587]
What on Earth made CCP think this would be a good idea to post?
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Ymrir
Cog Ex Machina
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:42:00 -
[588]
hlep help a spatial distortion swallowed my vote
what i do now? -- Ad Astra |
Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:43:00 -
[589]
Originally by: Alex's Slave I really am pleasantly surprised at how well my killmail post went down :) It's cool that CCP are actually seeing it and probably having a chuckle at it. I should print tshirts.
Alex's Slave
Do it, then sell them to people attending fanfest next year ;)
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SpaceWillies
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:46:00 -
[590]
Thread locked, please do not create trolling or spam threads.
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Yussef
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:48:00 -
[591]
This post is like rain on your wedding day. Cause it's ironic.
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Robdon
Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:48:00 -
[592]
Have to say... now is not the time for a post / vote like this :(
You guys really don't understand what you've done / not done to eve... do you?
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Kariss
Gallente Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:50:00 -
[593]
Hmm, Age of Conan any good these days? Given that my EVE accounts are all due to expire within the week, it's probably worth a shot.
Oh and +1 to AoC - roll back a few patches and I may forgive you CCP. _
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Ichera
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:04:00 -
[594]
Seriously CCP? Seriously?
Tell you what, if your customers help you win this, and you do... you need to fix the aspects of the games that the last 20 pages of this thread have pointed out to you.
Otherwise, when this comes around next year, your going to be beaten by "Rainbow Monkey's funland and axe emporium" or some other HACK game.
Get your acts together if you want your fanbase to remain intact. Something that your game has always been known for.
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Bluelynx
Blue Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:04:00 -
[595]
Originally by: Alex's Slave I really am pleasantly surprised at how well my killmail post went down :) It's cool that CCP are actually seeing it and probably having a chuckle at it. I should print tshirts.
Alex's Slave
Put me down for one. I've wanted an EVE t-shirt for a while, and the official offering is rather dull. And there's not likely to be any new ones for at least 18 months. I would pay 2 plex for this t-shirt.
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:24:00 -
[596]
I was a little harsh on you CCP guys earlier, and I forgive you guys for making me do that, but I'll tell you what, for every person you move from other stuff to fixing Eve, I'll give you one vote. Good deal, yeah?
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Wildcard Trek
Caldari Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:25:00 -
[597]
I jumped in and I went to vote, I clicked on the vote button and nothing happened, I couldnt move, I didnt have any control over anything, it was if I had been suspended in some sort of a screenshot, I logged out and tried to log back in and got nothing but a black screen, the next day I found my killmail saying I was killed 3 hours after I logged out, I petitioned it, your not supposed to die after you log out and your timer expires, but the logs showed nothing, and the votes might have a different outcome if I were to be reimbursed. So I didnt vote.
I am sure you can understand CCP.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:32:00 -
[598]
Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 28/07/2010 23:32:57
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
But will any of that have an effect on anything or will it just be viewed as "egh, a few of em are unhappy, so what, look figures show more people joining.... MONEY FIGHT!!!"
I'd love to resub when my remaining time runs out but at the moment world of sodding tanks is looking more and more appealing... and I hate WW2 games --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Facepalm
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:44:00 -
[599]
ASK US TO VOTE FOR YOUS IN 18 MONTHS LOL
The humor isn't as funny when it's at your expense now is it?
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Orange Faeces
The Squirt Locker
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:46:00 -
[600]
Edited by: Orange Faeces on 28/07/2010 23:48:44
Originally by: coolrunnin Best Game? Love the game - but so much work needs to be done. I actually keep a list of the things that I would like to see...
1. Allow groups of disimilar drones 2. Offer a Booby trap bomb to place inside your salvage wrecks 3. Locate Friend Feature 4. Ability to turn on Auto Stacking in items folders 5. Station Level Scanner that helps you find hidden enemies in system 6. Hot keys: Auto target nearest enemy,fire all weapons at current target 7. Sort enemies to the top of chat list 8. ABility to sort by reds in local chat 9. Keep shooting after reload
Fix some of the basics - fix some of the fair fight issues, I've been playing for two years and feel like the game play issues are still troubling. A two year player should be able to take out an serious enemy or two. I'll have to train for the next decade to to some fighting superiority in this game.
None of the crap you mentioned is even remotely "basic" to the game. You are just bitter about getting owned by pirates and having your salvage stolen.
oF ---
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:59:00 -
[601]
I literally think that if CCP hasn't fixed this lag in a few months, 0.0 alliances should band together to destroy the game.
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Matting
NQX Innovations Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:02:00 -
[602]
I normally do vote for EVE in these things but yeah I seriously don't know how you can ask us at this moment. Ask again in 18+ months when you actually put some effort in to fixing eve's issues and not in to some other "feature" I don't want or have very little interest in.
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Krazemzar
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:04:00 -
[603]
I neglected to turn off auto repeat before attempting to register to cast my vote, now the computer I was using to vote with has been blackscreened for over 3 hours. I filed a petition with the site owners, but the logs show nothing.
Maybe I'll try voting again in 18 months.
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Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:11:00 -
[604]
Originally by: Yussef This post is like rain on your wedding day. Cause it's ironic.
That would only be ironic if you were marrying a weather presenter. (you lose 1 internet point for quoting alanis morissette)
The irony in CCP asking it's customer base to vote for them as best online game, the day after a 12 page thread signed by opposing factions was created in CAOD pointing out the state of EVE is however, over 9000.
--- Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
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Dirk Mortice
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:17:00 -
[605]
Will sign in 18 months, assuming CCP holds it's end of the bargain! In the meantime, see you in puzzle pirates!
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Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:19:00 -
[606]
Voted "Arma". Never heard of it but it has to be better than EvE now that CCP has abandoned it for for the next 18 months.
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rodensteiner
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:20:00 -
[607]
I voted for EVE without hesitation.
Is the game perfect? No. Are there some things I'd like see changed/fixed? Absolutely.
Is it as bad as all the whining and b*tching on the forums suggests? Absolutely not, not by a long shot.
The EVE I play is something that has kept me excited for over 2 years straight, has eaten probably hundreds of my hard-earned dollars, frustrated my wife to no end, and caused many a sleepless night and undproductive work day, and if given the chance to go back and do it all again, the only thing I'd have done differently was to create this account sooner.
Thank you CCP for creating an excellent game, would buy again!
-Rod
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That GuyThere
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:21:00 -
[608]
I'll tell you what,
if you want our vote, i suggest you do 1 simple thing, stop adding more stuff to the game to mask the bugs and errors that are currently here and actually try and resolve the problems then move forward.
i understand that you want to add new content to keep people interested but at the same time, you are loosing people because they cannot log into their accounts due to lag, large fleet fights of 15 Vs 15 suffer from lag in areas, the really large alliance fights of 600 Vs 600 is just unplayable alltogether leaving you in a station 6 hours later with your poor "our records dont show anything".
maybe CCP, you should begin to listen to the cries of the people, the customers, the ones that actually make your pay cheques. all we want is some stability for once. review the code of the game and try address the issues straight away. dont ignore us. some of us have been playing for years now and some i know have sold their accounts because they are tired of the way this game has gone and not one of you can say there is no lag issues in the game atm. |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:25:00 -
[609]
Edited by: Hratli Smirks on 29/07/2010 00:25:22
Originally by: CCP ZymurgistEVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition.
Ahahaha who did this? Honestly now.
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Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:25:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Liang Nuren Can I vote for Eve: Apocrypha?
I'd vote for that.
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:30:00 -
[611]
Voted for Conan. Never played it but it can't be worse than EVE.
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Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:36:00 -
[612]
Voted for Bad Company 2, because it is a game that Dust will never get close to be as awesome. You can literally flatten the entire enemy spawn with explosives, leveling the buildings, and turning the land into a smoldering crater if need be :D Plus I want to appease DICE to get Battlefield 3 faster :D
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Pescado
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:37:00 -
[613]
Space--the final frontier, except in Eve where the universe is full. I like Eve and have too much time and isk invested to quit (for now) but the days of venturing into null sec and not finding 800 pilots there are over.
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Roman Bylar
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Posted - 2010.07.29 00:52:00 -
[614]
Edited by: Roman Bylar on 29/07/2010 00:52:54 Voting for EVE would be like voting to allow somebody to drop a masive duce in your mouth and give you AIDS. If you think about it, thats exactly what CCP has been doing, feeding us fecal matter with half finished expansions that dont add any depth or excitement to the game, and the AIDS is in the form of broken game mechanics.
This video sums up what everyone thinks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvMduWKHNpY&feature=related
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:01:00 -
[615]
CCP learn from this thread.
Please don't turn eve off tho. :)
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Trauli
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:18:00 -
[616]
[pl;z fiox eve ccp seropis i want to love you agaom.
you can do it i know you can!!!! also dont start smoking its bad fpr u k? god da,m i smpoked too many tonight
P.S i love you all i hope you know that.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:21:00 -
[617]
EVE Online is awesome in every way, including it's bugs. Of course I will vote for it.
It would be nice if CCP could spend one year just fixing the bugs though. Art department get the texture system porter to all objects, sort out remaining issues of scale, polygons or frames that are inside out, new models for existing ships, etc. Space sim folks sort out the crash-on-jump issues, separation of grid from sol, progressive loading of model details, textures, what not, changing model detail level without having ships blinking out of existence, beam weapons and missile trails disappearing behind distant nebulas, and so forth.
So many tiny tiny bugs which impact upon the immersion and enjoyability of the game.
I'm all for Incarna, even if the initial versions are nothing more than a glorified IMVU. I'm all for Dust even if it's a simple mechanism of "player X destroys your extractor on Planet X"
These are already in advanced development, it would be nice to have a feature freeze in EVE itself for a year, to allow some time for developers to catch up with the huge pool of technical debt which will inevitably render the code base an impenetrable mess dooming any future developers to a life in the psych ward as a catatonic wreck.
You can't commit to excellence while still releasing new broken stuff into the pool of existing broken stuff. Less ambitious expansions, more focus on maintenance, drive the scifi simulator to excellence.
-- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:33:00 -
[618]
Originally by: Mr M
Originally by: Grath Telkin which is counter productive to what we're trying to do here: Force CCP to fix the game, or watch the company burn to the ground.
There is about 500 text in this thread. A the same time there's 42,000 player who is online. 500 out of 42,000 is 1.1%. This might look like something big but it isn't.
I use 8 accounts to support myself and GW in our fast paced, hedonistic 0.0 lifestyle and I suspect that as soon as you hit any alliance work which requires a lot of coordination or logistics you'll be talking to someone with at least 3 accounts as well. There might only be 500 people posting here, but they represent a much larger portion of the 'player base' than you realise.
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:35:00 -
[619]
Sorry CCP but my agenda is as full as yours. I can't find five minutes to vote, a few like you to correct roflkets and many others small bugs or unbalance. I will probably be able to vote but not before 18 months.
I'm sure you can understand. _______ With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have. - John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment |
Illentianne
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:37:00 -
[620]
I cannot in good conscience vote for this game as best MMORPG. CCP is fast becoming a bottom line company who's only concern is getting money out of our pockets. Please put your heart and soul into this game as you so wonderfully demonstrated in the past.
Sincerely Yours, Illentianne
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:42:00 -
[621]
Originally by: Liang Nuren Can I vote for Eve: Apocrypha?
Seconded. I sure as hell won't be voting for Eve: Tyrannis.
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Beginner's ISK making guide | Manufacturer's helper | All about reacting _
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:51:00 -
[622]
Originally by: Liang Nuren Can I vote for Eve: Apocrypha?
Seconded.
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Hanns G
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:51:00 -
[623]
Originally by: Illentianne I cannot in good conscience vote for this game as best MMORPG. CCP is fast becoming a bottom line company who's only concern is getting money out of our pockets. Please put your heart and soul into this game as you so wonderfully demonstrated in the past.
Sincerely Yours, Illentianne
Agreed ....enough said...
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K'Bar
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:52:00 -
[624]
No, guess why!
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:54:00 -
[625]
Is it possible to vote down a game? _____
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Hellotherehowareyou
Band of Bastards
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:54:00 -
[626]
I heard conan is a pretty cool game |
Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:55:00 -
[627]
Originally by: rodensteiner
Is it as bad as all the whining and b*tching on the forums suggests? Absolutely not, not by a long shot.
Oh really? How are those epic space battles to regain your recently hargothed space going? Would you call what your experiencing "good gameplay"? Would you even call it game play?
If your in doubt, we can try to arrange for a few more people to show up and demonstrate what were ****ed about.
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Zulf BesGUowy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 01:58:00 -
[628]
I love eve im hardcore player i play every day x hours, but sorry CCP i dont vote, not because of lag...
Because of learings. Because of falcon, and other nerf where people waste time while train some skills to get nice ships. Because you create walking on station trailer video x years ago and and this Eve Planetary fight video empry promise. Because your dev blog is always mysterius with lack of information like one seed-grain for hungry person.
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:08:00 -
[629]
Anyone voting for Eve isn't doing Eve a favor.
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Trent Nichols
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:12:00 -
[630]
Are you kidding?
Dominion killed Eve for me. Instead of an a 0.0 renaissance (as promised) we got a dull broken sov system to replace the other broken system and the lag that continues to crush any fun out of fights. Atlas is the only reason Ive logged in at all since then.
I can barely recall what the last two expansions were about.
The last dev to talk like he knew what the players wanted was Abathur and as far as I can tell he is no longer with CCP.
Eve is as good as it is because CCP got lucky early on and created something that was and still is bold and unique, not because of anything the monkeys currently at the helm have shat out in the last few years.
Lag aside, Eve is still good but it should be great by now, it still could be. Now, after reading the CSM minutes and Zulu's last blog (and the fact that he is senior producer) I have little hope.
My subs run out next month. Fix the lag and I might be tempted to resub. Create a sov system that promotes fun (gasp! the F word) and Ill definitely be back.
Also... World of Tanks is quite fun, look for me (Blitzfish) there.
Colonies and Capitals
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:29:00 -
[631]
Like others I will vote for something else. Dominion brought us such niceties like colorful planets, a new sov system (just as bad as old way), a way to upgrade systems....all of which I don't want. Somewhere in the Dominion code lies a bug that eats away at my real enjoyment. A lag inducing bug that stifles the real beauty of the game. Rescind Dominion and I'll believe CCP really cares about their game. As it stands it appears CCP is only interested in eye candy, not game play.
Thank God Starcraft 2 is released.
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thisIs NotYou
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:34:00 -
[632]
restore ship insurance to what is was and then we'll talk
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Negotiator
Coerce Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:43:00 -
[633]
Does World of Tanks qualify?
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Monkey M3n
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:45:00 -
[634]
I dont see a catagory for laggiest game with terrible customer support so i didnt vote for you.....
BFBC2 FTW!!!!!!!
GO EA GAMES!!!!!
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:47:00 -
[635]
Originally by: Monkey M3n GO EA GAMES!!!!!
Do I hear a SOE?
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:49:00 -
[636]
Originally by: Monkey M3n I dont see a catagory for laggiest game with terrible customer support so i didnt vote for you.....
BFBC2 FTW!!!!!!!
GO EA GAMES!!!!!
There also isn't a category for "MMO that takes my $15/month and spends it on making a console MMOFPS to the detriment of the live PC game rather than fixes the problems that are a direct result of making it possible for said MMOFPS to interact with it...".
Yeah, Dominion/Tyrranis would win first prize in that category of voting.
Or they could win the "Most deaf dumb and blind Dev team that doesn't work for SOE" category.
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 02:55:00 -
[637]
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Monkey M3n GO EA GAMES!!!!!
Do I hear a SOE?
-Liang
As I said earlier in this thread, Hellmar is eligible to win the "John Smedley Award for extreme MMO mismanagement", if that were a category to be voted on.
Yeah, I think we all expected him to never be mentioned in the same breath with the evil Smedster. But it fits unless things change.
If Dominion was EVE's CU, Tyranis is our NGE.
And, no, CCP, you don't have 18 months to fix it. 18 weeks is more like it, and even that is stretching customer patience beyond all reason, considering how long it's already gone broken...
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Memo Herdez
Marshmellow Shipping Company
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Posted - 2010.07.29 03:07:00 -
[638]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
This must be a joke. You're not getting my vote for such a horribly broken game. Only two reasons I haven't unsubbed are:
Holding out for when you finally fix all the broken $h1t All the RL money these years of paying represent
With the 18-month thing the first one just went out the window. And on the second one, I could just say fnckit, i'll sell my stuff for RL money. Fnck your lame-ass rules on that I wouldn't care.
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Aralieus
Amarr The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.29 03:09:00 -
[639]
Wait..wtf..I don't even..
How can you expect us to vote for something that is apparently broken. To boost your already inflated ego even more, this game had a lot of potential when I first got here(early 09) and has been slowly degrading since then and it seems blatantly obvious you guys don't give a damn or else you would stop piling on more crap with bugs. <3 you CCP and prolly always will but I cannot knowingly encourage this type behavior by giving you my vote, and NO I didn't vote for anyone else either.
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Marahk T'or
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2010.07.29 04:47:00 -
[640]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan Hellmar is eligible to win the "John Smedley Award for extreme MMO mismanagement"
That's a hard act to follow!
CCP, fix the foundations first. |
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Mankell Grenze
GK inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 04:53:00 -
[641]
Let's make a deal CCP, you give me back every ships I lost due to lag (including a blackscreened titan) and I'll vote for you~
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Qlanth
Caldari Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 04:53:00 -
[642]
Can Incarna and I will vote for you.
Seriously no one cares about walking in stations its dumb as hell.
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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 05:16:00 -
[643]
Quote: There is about 500 text in this thread. A the same time there's 42,000 player who is online. 500 out of 42,000 is 1.1%. This might look like something big but it isn't.
And those 500 posts speak for the vast majority of 0.0 players. In the top 50 alliances in Eve (by member count), there are currently 79920 characters. If I'm right, every one of those 50 alliances are directly affected by the broken sovereignty code and server lag that comes with fleet fights. Suddenly the voice of 500 nerds who are post post posting becomes substantially louder.
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Tobruk
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 05:28:00 -
[644]
CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 05:42:00 -
[645]
Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 29/07/2010 05:42:55 SO far I've voted for Overlord II, Stalker COP, Darwinia+ and Conan in various categories. I'm not saying that because anyone would give a rats ass about what I voted for (and they shouldn't) but really to wave in your face how I feel about the sheer neck of you trying to garner votes for your game.
Firstly, I DON'T CARE ABOUT WALKING IN STATIONS. You have been talking about that since I started playing Eve. I played Space Cowboy, I got the experience of running around a big room visiting shops before blasting off and shooting big wasps. It sucked, and added nothing to the experience. AND as for Dust... :facepalm:
Second, there is nothing better than a big fleet fight in eve with lag manageable. Win lose or draw I had a blast. I actually started creating youtube vids to showcase it. But now things have gotten so bad I'm actually considering deleting them all.
Blah blah. I'll cut this short as you really are not worth more than that.
TLDR: BWAHAHAHAHAAAA |
dedcupid
Gallente Endless Possibilities Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:06:00 -
[646]
Edited by: dedcupid on 29/07/2010 06:10:28
Originally by: Monkey M3n I dont see a catagory for laggiest game with terrible customer support so i didnt vote for you.....
ouch
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Erroneous George
Minmatar Advanced Ballistics
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:11:00 -
[647]
Game doesn't currently deserve the vote.
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Arela Xen
Gallente Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:21:00 -
[648]
Edited by: Arela Xen on 29/07/2010 06:25:42 Edited by: Arela Xen on 29/07/2010 06:25:16
How can we vote EVE Online if YOUR current working memo is:
"It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_23-25_06_2010.pdf
That¦s ridiculous. No vote here.
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:27:00 -
[649]
lawl this thread delivers. Better than anything on CAOD by far.
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Raukho
Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:31:00 -
[650]
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1327362
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1354510
Gues what....
No
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Facepalm
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 06:50:00 -
[651]
Originally by: Tobruk CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
I truely lolled. Very clever my friend.
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Orokar Blane
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:01:00 -
[652]
I love how the game used to be.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:10:00 -
[653]
Since im one of the guys getting pizza for the people who can't vote, voting is therefore beyond my capability.
+10 for the best post in this thread.
Originally by: Tobruk CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:11:00 -
[654]
Originally by: Crucifier I literally think that if CCP hasn't fixed this lag in a few months, 0.0 alliances should band together to destroy the game.
If by "destroy" you mean "leave", then that's the likely outcome.
Still, at least we'll see once and for all what percentage of subscriptions are 0.0 focused.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
unit 12
Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:16:00 -
[655]
Voted for battlefield.
Now I'll go back to SC2. The game actually plays as advertised.
see you in 18 months.
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Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:20:00 -
[656]
I always liked how in Battlefield you can have one guy driving and one guy shooting from the same vehicle, lots of fun
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:21:00 -
[657]
Originally by: Stygian Knight I always liked how in Battlefield you can have one guy driving and one guy shooting from the same vehicle, lots of fun
I dunno man, 2 man gangs... sounds pretty sketchy to me. Dunno if Eve can handle that.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:24:00 -
[658]
Originally by: CCP Manifest YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Suck less, then it might stop hurting.
Trying to compensate your technical ineptitude and ******ed (read non-existant) QA process by means of marketing was a bad call.
Admit you suck, fire Zulu, replace him with someone who actually plays EVE, focus on the core game mechanic, fix lag issues and then I might vote for you in 18 months. If I even still play by then (I already suspended 1 of my 3 accounts out of protest).
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Nardman
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:25:00 -
[659]
Originally by: Tobruk CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
Great post.
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Calistai Huranu
Carebears with Guns
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:28:00 -
[660]
Do any of you at CCP seriously believe you deserve this award with the game in it's current state..
-Improvements to existing stuff will come (maybe) once Incarna and DUST 514 are fully implemented.
By then it will be to late.
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:33:00 -
[661]
ITT: bunch of 0.0 drones jumping on every opportunity to complain about the lag in blob warfare and in the same time trying to pretend that they're speaking on behalf of all Eve players, while in fact they present only a minority.
CCP could easily shut down whole 0.0 right now, it's not like they would notice some big drop in their subscription numbers. Too much of the company resources are wasted there anyway.
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:35:00 -
[662]
Edited by: King Gore on 29/07/2010 07:35:00
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
NO -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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kyotr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 07:52:00 -
[663]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Hahahahahahaha...
...hahahahahahaha!
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Ishihiro tanaka
Amarr NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:02:00 -
[664]
- Fixed all outstanding complaints: Fail - Fixed lag: Fail - Customer support satisfaction above 8/10: Fail
Voting for EVE this time: NO WAY
Get your act together, fix the game in stead of dropping more broken features in and than maybe you can rekindle some of the customer satisfaction you had pre-dominion. .. ... .... .. .... .. .-. --- - .- -. .- -.- .- A bullet, Laser beam or Plasma charge may have your name on it..... A Smartbomb or Shrapnel is adressed "To whom it may concern"... |
Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:03:00 -
[665]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas I've got a challenge for you - Tell us one thing about eve that you don't like. Not about the players, the game itself.
One thing? Lowsec.
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:07:00 -
[666]
Oh sweet I love battlefield.
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Logdsen
CAD LLC Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:11:00 -
[667]
You better believe I voted. Hell, I voted twice. CCP even gave me a gift for it. What will I spend this extra $30 each month on now? |
Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:18:00 -
[668]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas I've got a challenge for you - Tell us one thing about eve that you don't like. Not about the players, the game itself.
Zulu. And target painting sieged dreads. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
These are the people you are giving your money to. |
Hey Gumpy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:18:00 -
[669]
My vote got caught in a spatial anomaly and may have been given to another game
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Aiifa
Deep Stage THE-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:29:00 -
[670]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: Ti'anla Edited by: Ti''anla on 27/07/2010 21:27:12 Voted for EVE. So there.
Also, you morons need to realise your pet-hates only fall into certain voting categories, and to exclude EVE as a consideration from all of them is to just be a ****.
Vote for eve Eve wins More publicity More players Middle management justify this as them doing a good job More shoddy features roll out and we're left with the same broken content
Now if CCP fixed the issues and made the game run beautifully, then I'd vote and if eve won best game a number of times in a row with no new content then I think that'd scream a hell of a lot more louder than some expansion or the other.
Not the only possible causality, but a thought-provoking one. I'm going to abstain, largely because they want me to register.
I love you CCP. Sometimes I find my self wondering whether you've simply reached the efficient upper limit for concurrent users on one server with EVE's code. But then I think, no, not even science can hold those crazy vikings back. They'll fix it. In time for me to want to vote.
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Ralara
Caldari Vivicide HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:32:00 -
[671]
Possibly the first time in history when:
IT Alliance (bob) Goonswarm Pandemic Legion Razor Morsus Mihi Atlas Red OVerlord xXXXxxxXXxxxxshadowsomethingxxXXxxXXxx~~~ Empire people Low Sec people Renters Pets Masters
have all come together in 100% agreement :D --
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:33:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas I've got a challenge for you - Tell us one thing about eve that you don't like. Not about the players, the game itself.
One thing? Lowsec.
Hahahahahaha
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Murrior
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:33:00 -
[673]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: rodensteiner
Is it as bad as all the whining and b*tching on the forums suggests? Absolutely not, not by a long shot.
If your in doubt, we can try to arrange for a few more people to show up and demonstrate what were ****ed about.
Actually let's do that anyway. :p
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Aphatasis
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:34:00 -
[674]
EVE is a great and awesome game i'm playing since nearly 2 years. Want to play the next 2 years also but when i read things like this "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
it makes me wonder if CCP still wants EVE to be the big Sandbox and the awesome 0.0 experiance or just something ppl will play for 3 month before they get bored in empire and they won't go to 0.0 because they read about the all time lack and all the other things that won't realy work!
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Riflin' Betty
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:48:00 -
[675]
Male reproductive organ.
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Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:49:00 -
[676]
male reproductive organ -------- ¦ |
MrChuckNorris
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:49:00 -
[677]
male reproductive organ
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Yonneh
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:53:00 -
[678]
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Cyber Ten
Hellhounds. HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.07.29 08:58:00 -
[679]
male reproductive organ
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Ay'a
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:04:00 -
[680]
Male Reproductive Organ
(Posting in a CCP Fail Thread I randomly voted for another game, I want to see fixes damnit)
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:04:00 -
[681]
C-C-C-Combo Breaker
EVE doesn't deserve any ****ing vote for excellence at the moment, its a broken piece of crap thanks to ccp's horrific management of developer resources. Fix the game before you add shiny stuff in, this is how blizzard does it and they are one to talk about success.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar TAKEN. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:05:00 -
[682]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap ITT: bunch of 0.0 drones jumping on every opportunity to complain about the lag in blob warfare and in the same time trying to pretend that they're speaking on behalf of all Eve players, while in fact they present only a minority.
CCP could easily shut down whole 0.0 right now, it's not like they would notice some big drop in their subscription numbers. Too much of the company resources are wasted there anyway.
You one dumb SOB. It is 0.0 that fuels the game. It creates demands that common players can supply (ships, mods, rigs etc etc). 0.0 supply empire with buildingmaterial to t2 and t3 tech, so players in empire can get their missionships and t3 ships. If you shut down 0.0 eve would be pretty undynamic. And CCP is close to actully make it happen now
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:05:00 -
[683]
I still love you CCP Zymurgist and all the awesome peeps working at CCP.
But votes have to be earned. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:18:00 -
[684]
Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 29/07/2010 09:19:46 Edited by: Gixxer 1000 on 29/07/2010 09:19:21
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap ITT: bunch of 0.0 drones jumping on every opportunity to complain about the lag in blob warfare and in the same time trying to pretend that they're speaking on behalf of all Eve players, while in fact they present only a minority.
CCP could easily shut down whole 0.0 right now, it's not like they would notice some big drop in their subscription numbers. Too much of the company resources are wasted there anyway.
Classic idiot post is, idiotic. What do you think drives things in high sec? If it wasn't for low/null sec space, all the stuff that happens in empire space would get old very fast. Unless you just want to run the same old boring missions over and over and over again.
The miners would have no reason to mine, cause peeps wouldn't be buying ships like they are now, or mods, nothing. Ore prices would drop to such a low value that it wouldn't be worth anyone's time to mine. Building you say? Who do you think is gonna buy your stuff? Industry would just simply die.
Your a fool if you think that Empire space could exist without the 0.0 entities doing what they do best, makes ships and structures blow up. So, you wanna try to suck some more CCP3nis on an issue that actually makes sense? Scratch that, your opinions mean nothing to anyone, so just go away suck-up.
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Varrakk
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:22:00 -
[685]
Spatial distortions prevent me from voting for EVE.
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Bitter Veteran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:25:00 -
[686]
Helicity's male reproductive organ
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Green Shift
Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:26:00 -
[687]
The best games are always committed to excellence so sorry perfect dark gets my vote.
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Dragon Shadowlaw
Amarr 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:28:00 -
[688]
If I do vote, which I probably won't, I will vote for Eve. Only because it's the only MMO I've ever played. And it's the only one I've felt sincerely loyal to for such a long time. That includes any game I've ever played. But the majority is right. The game has issues which should be worked out before walking in stations (which should go on the back burner), planet interaction (which should have gone WAY behind that), and before making any ******ed (albeit funny) music videos. I've only been in a few null-sec fleet fights. I'm far from experienced. But having the question of whether or not I should participate in something, because I may get robbed from a good experience by laggy grid loading (ESPECIALLY IN A SYSTEM WITH NO MORE THAN 60 PLAYERS) should never even have to enter my mind. The ones who should have to deal with lag are the ones in high sec. Let the carebears deal with that bull**** and give the server power you reserve for Amarr, Jita, Hek, and the other one to the systems that see the most fleet action and pvp warfare. (i.e Providence in my experience)
This game truly spoke to me when I first joined, and it still does. But the care that used to go into it just doesn't seem to be there anymore. And to hell with console fps Dust 513 or whatever it is. Especially if I or any other capsuleer, IN ANY WAY, is paying for it.
Face it, Eve got you where you are today. Don't forget that. "The greatest enemy, lies within the self." |
Hamalicious
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:38:00 -
[689]
Edited by: Hamalicious on 29/07/2010 09:39:09 The OP is dreaming.
5 Year vet, the game has never been in such a mess. Please stop throwing in useless content and fix what you have.
Best expansion you could possible give us right now is to roll the server back pre-dominion.
edit voted BFBC (that game rawks)
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enterprisePSI
Gallente Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:40:00 -
[690]
Male Reproductive Organ.
Also what the hell CCP? What's next? BP coming out and ask to vote them for best Petrol company ever?! Tears, or the titan dies!
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Doctor Deals
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:50:00 -
[691]
are you trying to do this?
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BuRniZZ
Caldari The Warped Corpe Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:11:00 -
[692]
Male Reproductive Organ
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Sasha Nesta
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:20:00 -
[693]
hahahahahahahahahhh
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:21:00 -
[694]
Originally by: Ace Frehley ~~~
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 ~~~
Look, try to understand that vast majority of people (same majority which is not visiting forums, let alone posting) is not affected by lag simply because they are not interested for playing Blobs & Idiots online. Also even if what you said was true (which is not, especially that t3 lolpart)... what do you expect for hanging out in 0.0, a medal? Special treatment from CCP? A big thanks and perhaps everyone's sister just because you have that egoistic idea that you, your time and your biased opinion are somehow more valuable than those of average/norm Eve player? You really think it's 0.0 which keeps Eve running? Heh. You two should suck it up already: you are here voicing minority. No one sane cares about your little lag problem and you're not even remotely important for this game as you like to dream.
Btw I'm living mostly in lowsec and it's really ****ed up... don't get me started about it. Yet you won't see me here whining and crying all day like spoiled kid about whole game being utter and complete crap, looking for every chance to drop in and yell "OMGWTF CCP sux fix lowsec!!1" only because my prefered and definately the most enjoyable PART of game is not working the way I'd like to.
So yeah... HTFU or GTFO would be good advices I guess.
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Meriah Osala
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:21:00 -
[695]
You cannot polish a turd but you can role it in glitter.
Congratulations ccp for achieving this
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:27:00 -
[696]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Ace Frehley ~~~
Originally by: Gixxer 1000 ~~~
Look, try to understand that vast majority of people (same majority which is not visiting forums, let alone posting) is not affected by lag simply because they are not interested for playing Blobs & Idiots online. Also even if what you said was true (which is not, especially that t3 lolpart)... what do you expect for hanging out in 0.0, a medal? Special treatment from CCP? A big thanks and perhaps everyone's sister just because you have that egoistic idea that you, your time and your biased opinion are somehow more valuable than those of average/norm Eve player? You really think it's 0.0 which keeps Eve running? Heh. You two should suck it up already: you are here voicing minority. No one sane cares about your little lag problem and you're not even remotely important for this game as you like to dream.
Btw I'm living mostly in lowsec and it's really ****ed up... don't get me started about it. Yet you won't see me here whining and crying all day like spoiled kid about whole game being utter and complete crap, looking for every chance to drop in and yell "OMGWTF CCP sux fix lowsec!!1" only because my prefered and definately the most enjoyable PART of game is not working the way I'd like to.
So yeah... HTFU or GTFO would be good advices I guess.
do you work at ccp?
i have lagged out to hell in high sec, low sec and 0.0 in small gangs of 10 people v 10 people. lag is not a 0.0 only issue its a server issue and the issue with the **** code ccp dumpped on us with domination.
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Destiny Calling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:31:00 -
[697]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
You think ccp deserves an award? Pretty disappointing.
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Jekaterine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:32:00 -
[698]
It was mentioned by the players that the data does not seem to support that voting for EvE online wins them more awards than their competitors.
Therefore I can't vote for you in good conscience. I'm planning to re evaluate this decision in 18 months.
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Draelor Theta
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:37:00 -
[699]
Originally by: Meriah Osala You cannot polish a turd but you can role it in glitter.
Congratulations ccp for achieving this
You're incorrect - Mythbusters tested this a few seasons ago, and with the proper Japanese dirt polishing techniques (as odd as it sounds) you CAN polish turds.
But you do have to start with a quality turd.
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:38:00 -
[700]
Edited by: So Sensational on 29/07/2010 10:39:15
"The data does not seem to support that I will be voting for you, in fact I will not be voting for you."
"Speaking on behalf of the players, So Sensational disagreed strongly with the claim that the players aren't committed to voting. He pointed out that the player base probably votes a lot more than most other large, established gaming communities. He stated that this is a clear sign of how many votes you'd be getting this time around."
"In discussing revealing to CCP the amount of votes we'd be putting forth, the players again expressed concerns about expectation management related to award ceremonies and the potential for shifting priorities due to the nature of player happiness."
"The players warned that care has to be taken regarding expectation management for CCP. Votes normally being given sometimes have to be withheld, which may be harder to explain to CCP than to people who actually give a ****."
You know, I could keep this up, this was only 4 paragraphs from the CSM minutes.
Also: 18 months.
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:41:00 -
[701]
Originally by: Im Blue do you work at ccp?
i have lagged out to hell in high sec, low sec and 0.0 in small gangs of 10 people v 10 people. lag is not a 0.0 only issue its a server issue and the issue with the **** code ccp dumpped on us with domination.
Really? Strange, sorry to hear that. Lag is something I (and people I know or fly with, which is pretty long list tbh) encounter VERY rarely in lowsec and maybe just a little... 'less rarely' in hisec trade hubs.
And no, I am not working for CCP
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.07.29 10:46:00 -
[702]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Im Blue do you work at ccp?
i have lagged out to hell in high sec, low sec and 0.0 in small gangs of 10 people v 10 people. lag is not a 0.0 only issue its a server issue and the issue with the **** code ccp dumpped on us with domination.
Really? Strange, sorry to hear that. Lag is something I (and people I know or fly with, which is pretty long list tbh) encounter VERY rarely in lowsec and maybe just a little... 'less rarely' in hisec trade hubs.
And no, I am not working for CCP
its not only lag that bothers me, its the half arsed patches, the lack of thought that goes into new game mechanics, the total disregard for the players there views and even the csm. not to mention all the 4 year old bugs that never get fixed.
best european game? no ****ing way in the current state
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Rubikoner
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:05:00 -
[703]
this thread kinda backfired , didnt it?:) |
JuanCamaney
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:06:00 -
[704]
right now......hmmmm i'll vote for BF1943, for EVE.... maybe I'll vote in 18 months...................................
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:11:00 -
[705]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Originally by: Im Blue do you work at ccp?
i have lagged out to hell in high sec, low sec and 0.0 in small gangs of 10 people v 10 people. lag is not a 0.0 only issue its a server issue and the issue with the **** code ccp dumpped on us with domination.
Really? Strange, sorry to hear that. Lag is something I (and people I know or fly with, which is pretty long list tbh) encounter VERY rarely in lowsec and maybe just a little... 'less rarely' in hisec trade hubs.
And no, I am not working for CCP
I have tried really hard not to reply to your last 2 posts, but you just push the right buttons.
1) without 0.0, you have 90% less industrial needs in empire, mineral prices plumet, and demand for everything drops. 2) the issues that the '0.0 minority' are enraged about dont JUST affect 0.0, they affect the entire game, and, its not just whats happening in the game, its also CCP's general ignorance towards its paying playerbase who are been made to wait for 18months for fix's, whilst recieving expansions that, and without any statistics to hand i will use the modest word, alot, of people dont want as the priotity. 3) a large percentage of 0.0 pilots, have alts running empire missions/mining/manufacturing/trading. 0.0 isnt as lucrative as people think, and, so people have these alts to assist them in there isk gathering. You think that 0.0 chars decide to cancel there subs, they would continue to play empire? i dont think many would. 4) you talk asif noone from the 'empire' section of eve is annoyed, or indeed replying to this thread, and that it is just 0.0 trolling and banding toegether to cause hate toward CCP. I thnk you will find alot of the responces in this thread are from your 'people'.
In short, stop sucking at the power teet and trying to prove 24 pages of responces wrong. There are general issues that need to be corrected, or i fear your beloved empire space wont be as apealing as it is currently come the newyear.
Optical
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DaveTheGreat
Gallente Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:13:00 -
[706]
Just Fix the Game...
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:14:00 -
[707]
You actually believe you deserve a reward for this bugfest?
Hahahahahahahahaha.
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Doom Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:14:00 -
[708]
Sigh... I just can't click the button, not this time
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AngusThermo
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:19:00 -
[709]
"Its easy to go from love to hate"
All it takes, is to figure out that the love is a onesided affair.
CCP, Fix the game, maybe the old love will return.
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123GuessWho
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:24:00 -
[710]
Roll back to pre dominion and i'll vote
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Glafri
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:24:00 -
[711]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
Really? Strange, sorry to hear that. Lag is something I (and people I know or fly with, which is pretty long list tbh) encounter VERY rarely in lowsec and maybe just a little... 'less rarely' in hisec trade hubs.
And no, I am not working for CCP
Do you honestly think that lag as you experience it will improve or hopefully stay the same over the next 18 months? Each patch seems to make it worse.
Lag used to be the flavour of whine restricted to just the 0.0 dwellers and large fleet participants but now more and more of eve are tasting it and they don't like it.
Personally, I'd like the turd polished. I don't participate in FW, Low Sec or any of the other half baked cookies. I've not currently tasted all of eve's cookies, but I may want to in the future. When I do, I'd like them to work as intended.
CCP: 3 Accounts here are very close to expiring. I'd like to keep it that way, but I'm so close to mothballing everything for 18 months in the hope you still have a game and jobs.
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Spectre80
Caldari The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:32:00 -
[712]
im sorry but i have to abstain from this voting. maybe next year IF some major flaws will be fixed..
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Miep Miep
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:39:00 -
[713]
Originally by: Zso Sahal Well, so far i've voted for Stalker: Call of Pripyat. GSC knows how to spin an engaging tale, AND consistantly put out good content (Clear Sky illustrates the fallacy of putting out unfinished content)
Yip, great game. to op, ...your serious?
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Pog Mahon
Minmatar DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:52:00 -
[714]
I rarely post in these forums due to the amount of trollage and flaming that normally goes on but to suggest at this point that Eve deserves a vote for the Game of the Year in its current state is nothing short of ridiculous.
But what is also unbelievable is the astounding level of disconnect that exists between your company and your loyal player base - many of whom keep playing ( and paying) in the vain hope that something will be done to make your marketing collateral or selling proposition (massive fleet fights with universe wide implications) a reality.
To actually suggest that your playing base should support your drive to get another award when they have called (well except for the odd fanboi) time and time again for you to address numerous issues including the dreaded lag monster beggars belief.
So in summing up: NO VOTE FOR YOU!
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.07.29 11:55:00 -
[715]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist ...then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Whether hubris or ignorance, this request is self-serving and completely out of touch with the decreasing quality of development, testing and project management as empirically determined by thousands of players.
Nothing more to be said that hasn't be eloquently stated above other than "No mother****ing way would I cast a vote that falsely promotes a flawed game development and publishing methodology."
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:07:00 -
[716]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist ...then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
maybe in 18 month
and to give you a reason why:
The current state of this game is somewhere between and
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:26:00 -
[717]
Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 29/07/2010 12:32:46
Originally by: Optical Illusion 1) without 0.0, you have 90% less industrial needs in empire, mineral prices plumet, and demand for everything drops.
You seem to be quite confident with that percentage you've brought in. Your source for this claim...?
What is also interesting is that according to Dotlan in 5 most violent 0.0 systems there was 145 ships destroyed in last 3 hours, while for lowsec only --not counting hisec-- that number is 488.
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Zargyl
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:27:00 -
[718]
Will vote in 18 months as well
On a more positive note:
Incarna is probably one of the most backlogged features in EVE, it's the longest awaited expansion that nearly got renamed as often as it got delayed. Let's see it as a beginning that CCP is working on its backlog!
CCP was also quite open about revealing what dev team was working in what. So kudos to them for that! It would have been better though to give us more hints on what they plan players to be able to do in stations first. In the last Fanfest trailer they hint at something that does involve things not meant to be shared via NeoCom. So this could be some clandestine activity, underworld contacts, new mission types, ... (just wild guesses by me).
CCP marketing should wet our appetite before they reveal how much they are investing dev-time wise on Incarna first.
So I guess it is more a communications problem than a technical problem.
Just my 2 cents
--Zargyl who is eagerly awaiting Incarna
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Gloria Khan
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:35:00 -
[719]
I like a lot of people above have said never bother to post in these forums.
But to ask me to vote for Eve in its present iteration with all the huge lag issues that CCP refuse to deal with (because it doesn't earn them money) is taking the p155.
I hope CCP read this thread and take note of the frustrations of thier loyal players (7 years in a few weeks time)
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:35:00 -
[720]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 29/07/2010 12:32:46
Originally by: Optical Illusion 1) without 0.0, you have 90% less industrial needs in empire, mineral prices plumet, and demand for everything drops.
You seem to be quite confident with that percentage you've brought in. Your source for this claim...?
What is also interesting is that according to Dotlan in 5 most violent 0.0 systems there was 145 ships destroyed in last 3 hours, while for lowsec only --not counting hisec-- that number is 488.
Look at you picking apart my post as you have nothing else to counter it with.
And, yes maybe in the last hour more ships have been destroyed in low sec rather than 0.0, how abuot you make that a fair peice of evidence and find the average ship kills per system for 0.0 v lowsec. Am almost certain with the data you will aquire on dotlan taking the average day 0.0 systems will far exceed those of lowsec.
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LuceOscura
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:45:00 -
[721]
Delete all the crap you've added and roll it back to apocrypha and i'll vote for eve.
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Lubomir Penev
TTSP.x.X.x.RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:47:00 -
[722]
I already voted for EVE.
With my wallet, unsubscribing.
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Crazy Jade
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:51:00 -
[723]
Its a shame that ccp want's to get an aword for a game that does not work in mid and big battles. last days were a lot of jumplags in the west 0.0 with a solo ship only for traveling. get the game mechanic right work, than you can get an award!
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:02:00 -
[724]
Originally by: Optical Illusion Edited by: Optical Illusion on 29/07/2010 12:38:47
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Edited by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap on 29/07/2010 12:32:46
Originally by: Optical Illusion 1) without 0.0, you have 90% less industrial needs in empire, mineral prices plumet, and demand for everything drops.
You seem to be quite confident with that percentage you've brought in. Your source for this claim...?
What is also interesting is that according to Dotlan in 5 most violent 0.0 systems there was 145 ships destroyed in last 3 hours, while for lowsec only --not counting hisec-- that number is 488.
Look at you picking apart my post as you have nothing else to counter it with.
And, yes maybe in the last hour more ships have been destroyed in low sec rather than 0.0, how abuot you make that a fair peice of evidence and find the average ship kills per system for 0.0 v lowsec. Am almost certain with the data you will aquire on dotlan taking the average day 0.0 systems will far exceed those of lowsec.
*Edit* those statistics will also include noobships, most of which will be in the lowsec kills, of which pirates love to feast on. Not entirely sure noobship losses affect any economics in the game therefore the data is quite flawed from the outset.
Optical, just let it go m8, you can't fix stupid. Your points are 100% valid, his are less than 1%. People here, including CCP, know what drives Eve. He's nothing but a kiss-ass that is trying to make an impression and be a CCP lapdog.
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Viral Effect
Caldari BRAINDEAD Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:03:00 -
[725]
There is no way i would vote for eve online.
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:24:00 -
[726]
I wouldn't vote for Eve even if it was the only title on the list. I need 18 months before i can even start considering it tbh
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Inanna Nanaja
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:38:00 -
[727]
Edited by: Inanna Nanaja on 29/07/2010 13:41:39 Here's my vote: Canceled all my subscriptions. And just a reminder for you ccp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs&playnext=1&videos=JDvRhq8fiIo
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smaster
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:48:00 -
[728]
First Fix the Game (Lag anyone? Are you buying your servers on ebay????)
Then ask for vote
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uwai223
LifeLine Solutions
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:57:00 -
[729]
Sorry, voting is not on my 18 month plan, I am however looking into maybe voting someday soon(TM) for something. Like this facebook farmgame. --- htfu |
SephiriotH
LIGHTS 0UT Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:03:00 -
[730]
I refuse to vote for EvE as Best when actually massive Multiplayer combat part is unplayable (unless you like extemely buggy-laggy-"turn-based-in-real-time" action).
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Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:03:00 -
[731]
My vote was eaten by a Spatial Distortion. |
Scapogo
Amarr Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:07:00 -
[732]
There is no Most Broken Online game cathegory so sorry no vote from me, i picked something else.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:10:00 -
[733]
Originally by: Alexandra Delarge My vote was eaten by a Spatial Distortion.
Traffic Control prevents you from voting, try again in 18 months.
And I was the only person in the system, too. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |
Phoenus
Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:18:00 -
[734]
I'd rather spend my votes on supporting an organisation that believes that delivering a high quality product is far better than simply rolling out dozens of half-assed, unfinished features.
Sorry CCP. \o/
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Cunane Jerac
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:21:00 -
[735]
Depends, is voting open for 18 months?
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Kern Hotha
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:21:00 -
[736]
Your arrogance in asking us to vote for Eve in its current state is funny in a way. Not quite funny enough, though, so Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer earned my vote because Dominion and Tyrannis were just plain awful. ---
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:21:00 -
[737]
For the first time in 5 years im down to one account. Voting for something else thanks Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Manyar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:22:00 -
[738]
Adding layer upon layer of bad code just makes CCP:s hole deeper to climb out of. (Not that they need to climb from anywhere now that they got through from the other side...)
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James HellDay
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:22:00 -
[739]
Edited by: James HellDay on 29/07/2010 14:23:53 No vote for eve! the only reason why your game still has got a lot of players is the time we spent from our lifetime in the charackters, corps and alliances. get the game running out of lags, or the rest will go in the future! open the ears for your coustumers, we need a running game no new ****!!!
ps: first time down on 2 accounts maybe next time on one!
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smaster
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:28:00 -
[740]
I have just voted for a online game in the eu game award. It is not EVE Online.
I am very sorry for the anger this is causing in CCP and have contracted you a free Primae to make up for it! Have a nice day!
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Jehosephat Godlittle
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:30:00 -
[741]
Hahahahahahahahaha ...
No but seriously ... no wait ...
Hahahahahahahahahahaha ... hahaha ... haha .... burp
Anyway, no, stop taking the **** and start fixing your bloody game first ...
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Malevolent Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:32:00 -
[742]
Fix the game. Nuff said.
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Scoop EMP
Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:32:00 -
[743]
Quote: We always strive to keep the server at optimum performance and regularly upgrade our hardware and code, however, in situations such as fleet battles we cannot always achieve this goal.
No, EVE Online does not deserve to win any prize!
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smaster
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:37:00 -
[744]
I just wanted to add, that I have, too, canceled all my subsciptions and not paying anymore money for the game. Its not about the money, I am fine with paying 30-90 euros a month for a MMORPG. This was a direct response to CCP Customer Support answers and ignorance about the lag for over a year.
Support have already reacted to this and let me know how they "roll" with PLEX subscription users that complain about problems in eve. They offered me to cancel my account!
I hope CCP gets back on the right track at some point. Somehow you lost your feeling for the community months ago.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:43:00 -
[745]
Confirming that CCP Zymurgist is the funniest troll I've ever seen!
* Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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Freder1ck
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:44:00 -
[746]
Putting my cash into World of Tanks from now on.
Much more likely to see functioning spaceships in that game.
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Open Graves
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:45:00 -
[747]
Fix the lag so that 350 in 9UY local doesn't lag the system out and you will get my vote.
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Citelis
Amarr Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:48:00 -
[748]
I vote for EVE online, but same database issue assign randomly my vote to Perfect Dark Sorry CCP maybe next time, when you fix the game
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Imogeyn Haruko
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:53:00 -
[749]
Mmm, CCP trolling us, this is fantastic. Can I play too? Let's see. Voted for: - Worst working online game of 2010. - Worst customer support of 2010.(Can't wait for the "worst customer support of 21st century" contest) - Absolute unwillingness to fix problems. - Adding new features that nobody wants. - Not understanding how your own game woks.
All these categories' awarads should go to CCP.
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Lina Thamaris
Caldari Averos Corporation On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:58:00 -
[750]
I voted for EVE because I do think it's a great game.
Yes, some things should be fixed, but the same is true for every other game that's up for votes. No game is perfect!
Also, think about it: You whine so much about the game because you care about it! If the game really was that bad, you'd probably have stopped playing by now. But you're not stopping, are you? Is the game really that bad then? Does it not deserve your vote? How long have you played other games? Probably for a much shorter time than EVE. So are they better games? I doubt it.
So thumbs up to CCP and thumbs down to those who love the game so much that they play it but constantly whine about it.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:58:00 -
[751]
Originally by: Jekaterine It was mentioned by the players that the data does not seem to support that voting for EvE online wins them more awards than their competitors.
Additionally, the data does not seem to support that inviting their community to vote for them sells better than new bug fixes.
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Kage Toshimado
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:59:00 -
[752]
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
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Sabine Poffin
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:04:00 -
[753]
Voted for Zymurgist as best troll in 2010. 10/10. I was stunned. :( |
Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:11:00 -
[754]
Edited by: Ephemeral Waves on 29/07/2010 15:11:24 http://tech.uk.msn.com/gaming/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=154248947
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:14:00 -
[755]
This thread just keeps on growing. ----------------------
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Anamorph Morpheme
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:15:00 -
[756]
Originally by: Lina Thamaris Something about how I am better than you because I'm a a mindless Zombie
You don't seem to get it. We whine because we LOVE Eve even though it's buggy a **** and many things don't work as intended or are just plain ******ed (Ever tried to move bookmarks from a hangar?) and even tho CCP doesn't seem to give two ****s what the playerbase wants. We whine because we want bugs fixed that have been around for years.We whine because we want the customer support we pay for. We whine because we want our game to be good because it's a sound, well thought out game and not because we have some weird sense of nostalgia as to how it was in "the old days".
We are the people that bring eve forward, you however are encouraging CCP to run things just the way they are running things right now. In conclusion, you are the guy that is killing eve.
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Drakkmari
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:27:00 -
[757]
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
Let me give you a head start, my friend.
WoW - Immature Zoo-Land, getting dumber and dumber with each new expansion. And I mean REALLY dumber.
Lord of the Rings Online - a shiny example how one of the corner stones of literature, one of the masterpieces of the human genius can be totally trashed by bad marketing, management and game design. A single-player with a Guild Chat. Not a MMORPG.
Age of Conan - I won't even start pointing obvious bugs, exploits, cheating, etc.
Star Trek Online - see the LOTRO paragraph. A massive fail... A really MASSIVE one, done in not enough time just so Cryptic can meet a 2 years deadline, so they can receive a bonus from Atari.
Should I continue?
But, hey...
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
Voting for BF 1943 to "punish" the "Corporate CCP swines who screw us"?
Seriously?
How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years? Does it actually take brains to play BF 1943? Does it make you almost crap your pants when you go to PvP?
I thought so.
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
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Tish Magev
NailorTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:31:00 -
[758]
Quote: HTFU and let the devs do their job
If their job was to fix the broken sh*te they caused with Dominion then we would, unfortunately the manglement haven't deemed that a priority so it isn't so we're here with our torches and pitchforks.
And stop calling people 'friend' you f***ing weirdo.
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zoltar pdp
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:34:00 -
[759]
Two days ago i was in C-J but could only see a black screen for 30 minutes.
Yesterday I almost killed an alliance buddy that undocked in a bomber and appeared neutral to me.
Yesterday i was in LVL killing SBUs, yet hostiles magically got sov there today for some reason.
When you fix the game instead of adding stupid and buggy ****, ask for votes.
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:35:00 -
[760]
Originally by: Drakkmari
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
Let me give you a head start, my friend.
WoW - Immature Zoo-Land, getting dumber and dumber with each new expansion. And I mean REALLY dumber.
Lord of the Rings Online - a shiny example how one of the corner stones of literature, one of the masterpieces of the human genius can be totally trashed by bad marketing, management and game design. A single-player with a Guild Chat. Not a MMORPG.
Age of Conan - I won't even start pointing obvious bugs, exploits, cheating, etc.
Star Trek Online - see the LOTRO paragraph. A massive fail... A really MASSIVE one, done in not enough time just so Cryptic can meet a 2 years deadline, so they can receive a bonus from Atari.
Should I continue?
But, hey...
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
Voting for BF 1943 to "punish" the "Corporate CCP swines who screw us"?
Seriously?
How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years? Does it actually take brains to play BF 1943? Does it make you almost crap your pants when you go to PvP?
I thought so.
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
I agree EVE is a great game at the core. A great game that is getting worse, and worse over time, instead of better. MORPGs in general suck, and I wouldn't play any other regardless if eve existed or not, but comparing well formed slightly hardened $hit to smelly liquid $hit isn't an argument to why $hit should win best game. If they put an older release up there, I might have voted for that. CCP could have saved a lot of isk and fired all of the developers a year ago with the result of having a better game today, and that's just sad.
P.S. Get rid of SCRUM. It's not working for you.
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Dusicka
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:35:00 -
[761]
Dear CCP, I sincerely sorry, my browser didn't show an option for EVE Online in category "Best Online Game". I heard, that this bug will be fixed after about 18 months. So I voted for something else.
Best Regards Dusicka
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:37:00 -
[762]
Originally by: Drakkmari HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
'sup Hellmar, how's it going? Signature removed. |
Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:38:00 -
[763]
Originally by: Drakkmari
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
Let me give you a head start, my friend.
WoW - Immature Zoo-Land, getting dumber and dumber with each new expansion. And I mean REALLY dumber.
Lord of the Rings Online - a shiny example how one of the corner stones of literature, one of the masterpieces of the human genius can be totally trashed by bad marketing, management and game design. A single-player with a Guild Chat. Not a MMORPG.
Age of Conan - I won't even start pointing obvious bugs, exploits, cheating, etc.
Star Trek Online - see the LOTRO paragraph. A massive fail... A really MASSIVE one, done in not enough time just so Cryptic can meet a 2 years deadline, so they can receive a bonus from Atari.
Should I continue?
But, hey...
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
Voting for BF 1943 to "punish" the "Corporate CCP swines who screw us"?
Seriously?
How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years? Does it actually take brains to play BF 1943? Does it make you almost crap your pants when you go to PvP?
I thought so.
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
Nice of you to rant here and call everyone maggots for not loving CCP on an alt.
I've been following eve since 2003 and I've loved this game and have always recommended it to people I know. Beeing an Icelander I automatically wanted CCP to do well. I've played a LOT of other games, maybe CCP are worse than the other gaming companies and maybe not. That isn't whats being whined about.
We aren't comparing CCP to other companies, we're comparing CCP now to what CCP used to be. You used to be able to convo devs ingame and chat it up, CCP actually did care about the players once. Now they've become so greedy that they are at BEST on par with other companies while they used to be number one by far.
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:39:00 -
[764]
Edited by: Rhivre on 29/07/2010 15:40:02
Originally by: Drakkmari
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
You missed the only thing that matters when trying other MMOs "Am I having fun playing this?"
If, when people log into eve, the answer isnt yes, then they should speak up on the issues they find.
My quick opinions of other mmos:
WoW: Used to be great, now is the manufactured boyband of MMOs LOTRO: Fun game to run around in, the world lacks something though (Not to say I dont like it, as I keep resubbing) AoC: Again, awesome looking game, best new player area ever (imo), after that, the world feels a bit meh...the guild cities thing is great though (also keep resubbing) Warhammer: Great little game for hopping in and out of, not serious, hop in, melt some faces, hop out again (yup, keep resubbing) Eve: Great potential, can be extremely in depth, although this is mixed with frustrations about ongoing problems (Yes, this one I keep resubbing to as well) Latest comments / impressions from CCP indicate they are moving towards an SoE / Blizzard ideology, and away from taking note (In my opinion only ofc)
Bottom line is, if you arent having fun, you have two options, a) leave without raising your concerns b) raise your concerns, see if others have them too, then either hang about in the hope they get fixed, or take a break til they get fixed.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:39:00 -
[765]
my ability to vote for eve online was too expensive to maintain lol
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radix29
Free Space Initiative Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:42:00 -
[766]
Edited by: radix29 on 29/07/2010 15:42:37 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782
hmm....
edit: fail at linkingnull
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:46:00 -
[767]
Originally by: radix29 Edited by: radix29 on 29/07/2010 15:42:37 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782
hmm....
edit: fail at linkingnull
Their public relations verbiage does not reflect reality. #1 priority of 1 FRINGE development guy.
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:50:00 -
[768]
you can **** right off.
iv evoted every year on every award that has came up with your name on it - but eve right now is a ****ing joke
bring back pre-dominion levels of play and i will be happy
CCP Show us you listen pull all your developers off everything and fix the ****ing game before moving on with new **** -----------------------------------------------
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:01:00 -
[769]
Originally by: radix29 Edited by: radix29 on 29/07/2010 15:42:37 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782
hmm....
edit: fail at linkingnull
from tfa
Originally by: CCP PR 'CCP has invested significant time and resources throughout EVE's history on increasing the performance of fleet fights. We've always had a team of developers devoted to improving our technology and in recent years we made exponential headway through massive server upgrades and initiatives like "Stackless IO".
'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for.
'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
Lol. So NOW it's your "number 1 priority" and the team dedicated to it has "carte blanche"? And since when is that, because the CSM minutes don't seem to reflect that. Zulu's attempt at damage control and all the technical posts by Explorer and others merely said "yes we are dealing with it".
Now this triple ****storm happens, and suddenly lag is your "number 1 priority"?
Heh.
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MohrDahn
Amarr InTaxification
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:01:00 -
[770]
I loled through the first four pages then couldnt sleep so i read the rest of this "best european thread ever" last night. Have never voted for a video game ever. My vote goes for the only other game I play atm Conan FTW.
Dear CCP....
listen to the ppl.
Many are keeping accounts active and training skills in hopes you will wake the F*** up and stop hardening the F*** up or whatever it is you failtards are doing.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:01:00 -
[771]
Originally by: radix29 Edited by: radix29 on 29/07/2010 15:42:37 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782
hmm....
edit: fail at linkingnull
Colour me skeptical --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:02:00 -
[772]
I see RLiD in this thread eh what CCP Blizzard buy you out.
No vote from me
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Jan Blackoak
United Amarr Templar Legion Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:05:00 -
[773]
Welcome to EVE where pilots can enjoy a sandbox universe with hundreds of thousands of players in the same universe. Massive lag-free fleet fights of up to 5 pilots in each fleet are available. Lag is free of charge in fleets any larger.
World of Tanks +1
You icelanders have a great sense of humor.....
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:11:00 -
[774]
RE: Tyrannis for the European Games Award
Hi, I'm ViolenTUK
Thank you for reporting this. It is against my policy to intervene. You will have to ask someone else to vote for you. This post is now closed.
Sincerely,
ViolenTUK EVE Online Customer
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:12:00 -
[775]
Originally by: Master Akira
from tfa
Originally by: CCP PR 'CCP has invested significant time and resources throughout EVE's history on increasing the performance of fleet fights. We've always had a team of developers devoted to improving our technology and in recent years we made exponential headway through massive server upgrades and initiatives like "Stackless IO".
'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for.
'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
Lol. So NOW it's your "number 1 priority" and the team dedicated to it has "carte blanche"? And since when is that, because the CSM minutes don't seem to reflect that. Zulu's attempt at damage control and all the technical posts by Explorer and others merely said "yes we are dealing with it".
Now this triple ****storm happens, and suddenly lag is your "number 1 priority"?
Heh.
You know who writes that right? CCP Quell does. And do you know who CCP Quell works for?
PRC Social Media.
PRC Social Media are an outsourcing company.
PRC Social Media (http://www.prcnet.com/Social-Media-Solutions.aspx) do all sorts of useful things!
* Listen in on consumer conversations about your products and services * Stop reputation-damaging crises before they worsen * Stay abreast of your customersÆ needs and concerns * Strengthen customer relationships and build brand loyalty * Enhance your online visibilityAnalytics
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Gladiator XM
Caldari Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:12:00 -
[776]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Professor Tarantula This thread saddens me in many ways.
Yeah, I agree.
It really hits home when so many people from so many political backgrounds in Eve have the same opinion.
As for me. I voted, and I voted for Eve.
In the end, if CCP are gonna fix things when they get their heads together, they need the community behind them.
Hey Verone - Vote ? you mad ? maybe someone needs to throw something @ ur head this time and wake you up sunshine(private joke btw).. Roll it bk a few patches and you just may get my vote.
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WarGod
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:15:00 -
[777]
Originally by: Drakkmari How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years?
The only reason EVE keeps you at the screen for years is coz that's how long it takes to load the grid.
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Treyah
Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:16:00 -
[778]
Edited by: Treyah on 29/07/2010 16:16:42 Confirming this is a broken game and not the best ever. Pages and pages of people are ripping the other games out there to show that they aren't better--stop it. No kidding there isn't anything better out there, this isn't a news flash and you're not some kind of internet mecca for unveiling this hidden truth. What I hope CCP understands is that this game is broken and needs a freaking lifeline. If alliances are unable to battle on a large scale then WHAT IS THE FREAKING POINT?
So, stay focused people.
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Liza la'fabre
Gallente Keep It Simple Stupid
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:24:00 -
[779]
I blame ATARI.
Pls CCP fix this now and not when dust or what ever is done.
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Qlanth
Caldari Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:29:00 -
[780]
Originally by: Drakkmari
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
Let me give you a head start, my friend.
WoW - Immature Zoo-Land, getting dumber and dumber with each new expansion. And I mean REALLY dumber.
Lord of the Rings Online - a shiny example how one of the corner stones of literature, one of the masterpieces of the human genius can be totally trashed by bad marketing, management and game design. A single-player with a Guild Chat. Not a MMORPG.
Age of Conan - I won't even start pointing obvious bugs, exploits, cheating, etc.
Star Trek Online - see the LOTRO paragraph. A massive fail... A really MASSIVE one, done in not enough time just so Cryptic can meet a 2 years deadline, so they can receive a bonus from Atari.
Should I continue?
But, hey...
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
Voting for BF 1943 to "punish" the "Corporate CCP swines who screw us"?
Seriously?
How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years? Does it actually take brains to play BF 1943? Does it make you almost crap your pants when you go to PvP?
I thought so.
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
Everyone come play League of Legends until World of Tanks is released. Both of those games rule.
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Eduardo'o
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:30:00 -
[781]
Big balls to dare to ask us to vote for best game lol
fix the lag, and I'll vote
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Ohoboho
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:33:00 -
[782]
I have never had problems to play WOW whit 40-80 people at one place and control my character, and also enjoy the whole thing.
I`am sorry but you just dont deserve to get an award!
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:34:00 -
[783]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
http://i.imgur.com/cljgo.jpg this image wins
Image changed to URL. Zymurgist
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:41:00 -
[784]
to the guys speakin of numbers: more than 100k toons (111k to be more accurate)r in 0.0 SOV holding alliances, let's say 1/2 are alts(or incative/whatever) that makes 50k toons, now consider most of 0.0 players have at leat 1 or 2 (if not more) empire alts, which rarely r on the same main 0.0 account, but for the sake of discussion i'll just consider those 50k acc.unts, is that the majority of EVE? nope, is that a decent amount of people to take into consideration? yes given EVE is not WOW (thanks God tbh)
now to the ones arguin the other MMOs are not better than EVE, so y not voting for it? (which is where this thread started): let's make an example (yep a stupid one, but pretty easy), u have to vote for your favourite meal, yr options r: 1- pool of vomit 2- shiny turd 3- basket of smelly worn socks what will you vote? if forced (gun pointe at my head) i'd choose the socks,lucky me i'm not forced to vote, on the contrary i notice that the basket's owner told me despite my complaint he's not goin to clean them socks...he'll just add some dirty boxers to it.
ok after this nonsense i typed, the point is: 1- EVE is a good game 2- EVE has a lot of bugs/unpolished content/etc 3- other games suck (well theones i've tried), so will get no vote from me 4- EVE will get no vote from me either, i like my socket based dinner to be clean ^_^ 5- you (the ones complaining about this thread)are absolutely free to make your own choice, but people in this thread r not talkin with you, we'r talkin with CCP, so let them "defend" their position themselves cya
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:46:00 -
[785]
Originally by: Lina Thamaris I voted for EVE because I do think it's a great game.
Yes, some things should be fixed, but the same is true for every other game that's up for votes. No game is perfect!
Also, think about it: You whine so much about the game because you care about it! If the game really was that bad, you'd probably have stopped playing by now. But you're not stopping, are you? Is the game really that bad then? Does it not deserve your vote? How long have you played other games? Probably for a much shorter time than EVE. So are they better games? I doubt it.
So thumbs up to CCP and thumbs down to those who love the game so much that they play it but constantly whine about it.
Most of us have been doing what you say for over 5 years now , and been putting up with not a perfect game aswell as voteing for it as we all love this game or we wouldn't even be botherd complaining about the problems, we would simply quit.
CCP in there mighty wisdom has shown us all that they dont give a damn and will not fix anything for the next 18 months. so thumbs up for CCP fixing the game and earning our votes again, times has changed CCP its now your turn to prove to us that you really do care as you have been claiming for years now.
2 of 4 subscriptions cancelld, the other 2 are on gtc,s depending on how CCP handles stuff the next months will decide if any of them gets renew'd
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ItommoI
Caldari Task Force Zener Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:46:00 -
[786]
Is there an award for most falsely advertised game?
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o0TuNa0o
The Littlest Hobos Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:49:00 -
[787]
Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game, Fix the game,
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grapfter
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:51:00 -
[788]
I am gay, and so is this game. |
Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:53:00 -
[789]
Originally by: ItommoI Is there an award for most falsely advertised game?
That would go to anything SOE advertised.
But CCP is clearly walking their path. They clearly are taking our money and spending it on things that aren't for us (Dust514), things we'd rather have our game fixed before they are done (Incarna), or things that are nothing more than fluff (Eve Gate).
CCP thought they were doing damage control with the post detailing their team distribution and numbers, but instead they showed us the extent to which they ignore us.
Well, now they are trying damage control, claiming in an article that fixing the server problems and getting us back to 1,000 ship fleet battles is "priority one". Which is good, don't get me wrong, but why did it taking us unloading on them for a day and a half to get this moved up 18 months?
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da Hawk
Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:54:00 -
[790]
Edited by: da Hawk on 29/07/2010 16:56:01
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist [...] and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
no
fix your game first lag, 0.0 warfare, user interface ...... fix asap
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Nothing Found
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Posted - 2010.07.29 16:55:00 -
[791]
Originally by: Giovanni DalleBandeNere to the guys speakin of numbers: more than 100k toons (111k to be more accurate)r in 0.0 SOV holding alliances, let's say 1/2 are alts(or incative/whatever) that makes 50k toons, now consider most of 0.0 players have at leat 1 or 2 (if not more) empire alts, which rarely r on the same main 0.0 account, but for the sake of discussion i'll just consider those 50k acc.unts, is that the majority of EVE? nope, is that a decent amount of people to take into consideration? yes given EVE is not WOW (thanks God tbh)
now to the ones arguin the other MMOs are not better than EVE, so y not voting for it? (which is where this thread started): let's make an example (yep a stupid one, but pretty easy), u have to vote for your favourite meal, yr options r: 1- pool of vomit 2- shiny turd 3- basket of smelly worn socks what will you vote? if forced (gun pointe at my head) i'd choose the socks,lucky me i'm not forced to vote, on the contrary i notice that the basket's owner told me despite my complaint he's not goin to clean them socks...he'll just add some dirty boxers to it.
ok after this nonsense i typed, the point is: 1- EVE is a good game 2- EVE has a lot of bugs/unpolished content/etc 3- other games suck (well theones i've tried), so will get no vote from me 4- EVE will get no vote from me either, i like my socket based dinner to be clean ^_^ 5- you (the ones complaining about this thread)are absolutely free to make your own choice, but people in this thread r not talkin with you, we'r talkin with CCP, so let them "defend" their position themselves cya
you said toon
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:04:00 -
[792]
You gotta admit CCP, the 18 month thing will follow you for a while. So I'll vote in 18 months.
<My tools>
CCP Zymurgist > lol thats great Dan O'connor
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:05:00 -
[793]
I voted Arma. I quite liked the first one, so I guess the second one is alright. Haven't played it yet.
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Captain Yarrness
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:06:00 -
[794]
Edited by: Captain Yarrness on 29/07/2010 17:06:20 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782 not entirly true lol.. been hearing that for a couple of years now.... ps. feel free to post a comment there :D
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:08:00 -
[795]
cleared some spam messages
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Tish Magev
NailorTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:11:00 -
[796]
You do that! Get the post count down in this thread down quick smart!!
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:13:00 -
[797]
Don't clear anything else.
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Sin Demon
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:19:00 -
[798]
I like Eve, but I won't vote for it.
1) I don't like the idea of register to vote
2) CCP needs to fix a lot of annoying stuff in EVE before even dare to ask users to vote. We are already paying. It's CCP turn to give us what we need instead of the perma-nerfing policy.
3) Make a pool and ASK players about what they NEED or WANT, before asking silly things like votes. You will be making millions and I won't.
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:20:00 -
[799]
HAhahahahahahaha somebody started believing their own hype didn't they. I cant recommend i login at the moment let alone anyone else try the game. Quite sad to see CCP and EvEs fall from grace happening before your eyes.
Quote: [20:25:09] wtfepixz > did someone just shoot me?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:21:00 -
[800]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 29/07/2010 17:24:22
Originally by: Captain Yarrness Link Fix not entirly true lol.. been hearing that for a couple of years now.... ps. feel free to post a comment there :D
The mother****ing nerve of that response! I don't pay for my accounts thanks to PLEX, but I have to say I'm wondering if it's at all worthwhile anymore.
You're doing a brilliant job of alienating people CCP! Keep it up and your company might collapse under your collective fat heads.
[/rage]
Seriously, that damage control response just ****es me right the **** off.
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:23:00 -
[801]
Edited by: King Gore on 29/07/2010 17:25:41
Originally by: CCP Adida cleared some spam messages
This isn't helping.
] Originally by: Captain Yarrness http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782 not entirly true lol.. been hearing that for a couple of years now.... ps. feel free to post a comment there :D
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Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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Darriele
Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:25:00 -
[802]
Originally by: CCP Adida cleared some spam messages
Go away Adida, GO, none of the posts in this thread are spam messages. And as much as I love this game and some devs (/me hides) some aspects that some person post/reveal/whatever on this thread cannot be treated as "spam" Anyway, CSM minute, big freaking mistake (and we already know why), Zulu's devblog another big freaking PR disaster (we do not need to know what happens in CCP internal intestine, we want to be happy and not to worry about eve future), this thread, ok, this thread was made with good intention but it seems that the one who did it is somewhat disconnected from the "forum" side of eve as in that person doesn't read this forum and actually think before posting (don't tell me he drew the short straw, or other ..., he is an intelligent human being afterall and if he sensed that by starting this thread will provoke a "major failure") he wouldn't do it, I'm speaking of CCP Zymurgist ofc, anyway, it doesn't matter, I can classify this as another PR mistake/venting vane for all of us. Inappropriate signature removed.Applebabe |
Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:26:00 -
[803]
I love EVE. That's why I play this game.
I'll vote for EVE in 18 months. Until then, I'll vote for Conan. --
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:28:00 -
[804]
CCP, I'll make this as plain as I can. I love eVe, the universe you've created, the freeform interaction (yes even the non-concentual PvP), the fact that I can do what I want where I want to do it.
I want to continue loving eVe and have no intention of unsubbing or any of that non-sense...I will...must however, add my voice to those that feel ingored, and unappraciated as a customer and a part of (no matter how small) the income that you enjoy as a company and service provider...
1)I look forward to Incarna...IF its done right.
2)I'll even tolerate DUST 514...IF its done right.
I'll admit, I didn't vote for eVe:Tyrannis due to the fact that the last 2 exspansions have broken far more things than they offered as content...and added a few more broken things as a bonus.
Please, for the sake of the community that has grown around this universe you've created...listen to your players/customers.
The anger that the players are expressing is based on what we all know eVe was, should be, and can evolve into.
Most of it isn't because your player base hates you...it because we love eVe and want it to become the best, longest lived MMO in the world...of all time.
Help us realize the dream you inspired, the dream that is eVe.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Poison Eagle
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:29:00 -
[805]
Ultimately Eve online is in my opinion the BEST MMORPG out there, however... the latency in fleet fights and the effects of the load on the servers across the other systems on the same node are totally unacceptable. A number of good friends in Eve have lost ships, been scammed as a result of lag yet CCP refuse to refund them their losses. Had this been any other game where you just respawn with no RL time or financial implications then thats a fair one. However, Not being able to conduct any real fleet warfare, trade safely, plex or rat due to latency is a serious issue. Further more shoudl a fleet battle not be going your way why not just flood the sys with drones and more pilots? no one can win :D... this is in my opinion also an exploit and anyone who looses their ships as a result of this should also have them restored (rubber banding, unable to cycle weapons etc etc means the players no longer have control).. its so bad that even PI (which supposedly had no extra load on the servers apparently) in some systems has been blocked due to recently large fleets passing through (take a look at the planets in h-w).. so, it looks like pretty much every element of eve is in some way faulty at the moment (jita limited to 1400 +/- pilots? how are the massive pvp fleets supposed to cope if the core trade sys in eve cant support more than 1500 pilots?)... anyhow, I am goign to stick with eve for another couple of months, if its still as bad in two months from now i'll cancel my subscriptions and find something else... i believe jumpgate is out soon
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Ffreyn Moonflower
Caldari Everset Dropbears
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:29:00 -
[806]
I also tried to vote, but it just lagged out. Will try again in 18 months.
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:30:00 -
[807]
Quote: Eve Online developer 'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for.
'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
you have posted a blog and csm minuets stating the oposite.
way to go with the damage control
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Ion Duke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:35:00 -
[808]
Its a shame that the players seem to put more effort into the game than CCP do. When that changes I might vote.
PS if you want people to believe spin like "CCP: Fixing Eve Online lag is 'No.1 priority'", try getting someone senior in CCP to post it on the eve-o site.
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:36:00 -
[809]
Edited by: Harmone Princess on 29/07/2010 17:36:00 I love it how news sites start posting about the lag and then all of a sudden CCP speaks with them with an entirely different message/reality.
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hunny bunnie
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:37:00 -
[810]
Im BLue, can you link that csm thing please? I'll post it on the comments of every single damage limitation post and eve review on the internet i can find along with the url on this page. Cheers. I have spent alot of time, money and effort on this game to have it messed up 4 years down the line. if potential customers read the truth it might sort things out... they might have a pr firm but they also have a few thousand upset customers with browsers and the ability to post as well.
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:44:00 -
[811]
Originally by: hunny bunnie Im BLue, can you link that csm thing please? I'll post it on the comments of every single damage limitation post and eve review on the internet i can find along with the url on this page. Cheers. I have spent alot of time, money and effort on this game to have it messed up 4 years down the line. if potential customers read the truth it might sort things out... they might have a pr firm but they also have a few thousand upset customers with browsers and the ability to post as well.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:46:00 -
[812]
If i was CCP, I'd be working on rescinding that PR crap ass message, before they get wind of the CSM minutes, you REALLY don't want to start ANOTHER PR war with the players that populate your game, do you?
Remember last time you tried something silly like this?
You should really tell the truth, because I'm pretty sure the articles are already on their way, but saving face by admitting you just lied in that article will probably be about all the damage control you can manage after this.
Hell, you'll be lucky if you can still afford a marketing department at the rate your going.
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Rubikoner
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:55:00 -
[813]
It has begun |
Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 17:59:00 -
[814]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Hell, you'll be lucky if you can still afford a marketing department at the rate your going.
You ever wonder where the marketing team from SOE went? Nah, couldn't be.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:04:00 -
[815]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/07/2010 18:04:22
Originally by: Lrrp
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Hell, you'll be lucky if you can still afford a marketing department at the rate your going.
You ever wonder where the marketing team from SOE went? Nah, couldn't be.
They're still trying to figure out the spin for FLS (Failing Labs Sortaware).
...just sayin'.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Dr Valeri
Majesta Development Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:16:00 -
[816]
Originally by: CCP Adida cleared some spam messages
Hahaha, Jesus Christ CCP you keep failing and failing.
Lets bury the thread and pretend the logs show nothing!
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:20:00 -
[817]
Originally by: Rubikoner It has begun
No, it hasn't. CCP is only trying to control the situation.
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Kage Toshimado
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:25:00 -
[818]
Originally by: Drakkmari
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
A few years ago I would have voted multiple times for EVE. I won't vote for it now. I thought I was one of the few people who has just about had it with this game.
I have never played another MMO besides EVE. Not a single one.
My subscriptions are up for renewal again and I am going to take a hiatus from EVE. See you all again in a year maybe. Going to try some other MMO's.
Let me give you a head start, my friend.
WoW - Immature Zoo-Land, getting dumber and dumber with each new expansion. And I mean REALLY dumber.
Lord of the Rings Online - a shiny example how one of the corner stones of literature, one of the masterpieces of the human genius can be totally trashed by bad marketing, management and game design. A single-player with a Guild Chat. Not a MMORPG.
Age of Conan - I won't even start pointing obvious bugs, exploits, cheating, etc.
Star Trek Online - see the LOTRO paragraph. A massive fail... A really MASSIVE one, done in not enough time just so Cryptic can meet a 2 years deadline, so they can receive a bonus from Atari.
Should I continue?
But, hey...
Try other MMOs, really, it's you choice. Only then you will realize what is the difference between the "broken" EVE and its competitors.
Don't say I didn't warn you, my friend.
And that goes for all the emo ****heads that "won't vote for EVE".
Voting for BF 1943 to "punish" the "Corporate CCP swines who screw us"?
Seriously?
How much depth BF 1943 has? How much brilliant ideas does it have implemented? Can it keep you in front of your screen for freakin years? Does it actually take brains to play BF 1943? Does it make you almost crap your pants when you go to PvP?
I thought so.
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
Or I can continue to be one of the sheep in the CCP flock like you and continue paying for a game that I no longer enjoy due to all of the crap that has been dumped on me for the past 4 years.
Just because I said I wanted to try something else and take a break for a year doesn't mean I'm emo. It means I can think for myself and walk away from something. NOT voting for a game that I don't think should win the award is my choice. Trying out other MMO's is my choice as well.
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Lord Morloc
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:30:00 -
[819]
Originally by: MistressDoom
Originally by: Rubikoner It has begun
No, it hasn't. CCP is only trying to control the situation.
Did they hire Tony Hayward ?
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:34:00 -
[820]
Originally by: Merriam Webster Online Dictionary Main Entry: chutz+pah Variant(s): also chutz+pa or hutz+pah or hutz+pa \ˈhu̇t-spə, ˈḵu̇t-, -(ˌ)spS\ Function: noun Etymology: Yiddish khutspe, from Late Hebrew ḥuṣpāh Date: 1883 : supreme self-confidence : nerve, gall synonyms see temerity
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Jagged Bluetooth
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:47:00 -
[821]
Pull the other one pal....with all the lag and countless other minuses you have going for you ...LOL
You are just ignoring us at the moment !!!! sort it out. bloody hell
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Soban Vuex
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:51:00 -
[822]
Edited by: Soban Vuex on 29/07/2010 18:51:25 But, people why are you not voting for EVE i meant its the Planetary Interaction and stufffff - why are you not liking that.... It was so awesome to inspect planets in C-J while i was waiting between 10-20 minutes to acquire a lock on someone... so yeah i just found out it may take me some 18 months or so to vote.
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Neu Bastian
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.07.29 18:54:00 -
[823]
You can forget about a vote on your behalf from me till you fix your broken and glitchy features.
In fact pretty soon you might forget about my 2 accounts.
Quote:
Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
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Caldari Acolyte
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:04:00 -
[824]
Posting in Epic CCP Fail cascade thread. You want a vote! I'm already counting down too uninstall mode. Think you better fix the game fast, seems i'm not alone.......
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W3370Pi4
ExoGeni Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:04:00 -
[825]
i do have to agree that some features bug fixes are left down the trap in hope that we forget about it ???
stop adding new stuff fix existing content.
i wonder what will happen to jita when incarna is released ? you will dedicate an entire floor of nods to one solar system ???
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:08:00 -
[826]
http://kotaku.com/5599803/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix
It made it to Kotaku.
What you are going to do now CCP? More damage control, when even the gaming press knows it IS damage control?
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Stenner
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:10:00 -
[827]
Edited by: Stenner on 29/07/2010 19:09:58 Simple to fix CCP. Just roll the game back to Apocrypha, when it was playable and enjoyable.
Your changes since then suck.
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Guilliman R
Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:16:00 -
[828]
Originally by: Master Akira http://kotaku.com/5599803/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix
It made it to Kotaku.
What you are going to do now CCP? More damage control, when even the gaming press knows it IS damage control?
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mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:16:00 -
[829]
Voted for Eve Online.
I've played this game for 5+ years. I love CCP. There is no other game currently in existance which comes close!
As for you worthless ****ing ****s crying in this thread.. shut it or I'll punch your ****in pods all the way to Amarr.
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Mikaaro
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:17:00 -
[830]
I think all you guys are missing the point of this award. You're supposed to vote for the BEST european online game. Not the perfect. I don't know about all you guys, but EVE is definately the best of the lot. It has problems, the lag-thing is terrible, there are things that sometimes make me yell, but still this is the only game I pay to play and pretty much the only game I play nowadays and has been for over a year. Nothing has been this addictive since Civ II.
If you really think EVE isn't the best game, then you should be playing the game that is. Since you clearly are playing EVE and I bet most of you play it more than any other game, EVE must still be the best there is.
tldr: Best means better than what exists, not better than than what you can imagine.
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FunnySovietSpy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:20:00 -
[831]
Don't forget to contract all your stuffs to me before you all quit! I'll give it back in 18 months
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Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:22:00 -
[832]
Originally by: Master Akira http://kotaku.com/5599803/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix
It made it to Kotaku.
What you are going to do now CCP? More damage control, when even the gaming press knows it IS damage control?
Brilliant. Looks like damage control is again overheating. I will enjoy watching ccp take it in the butt from the gaming media community at large.
Much more fun than trying to play their game.
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Lord Morloc
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:24:00 -
[833]
Originally by: mamolian Voted for Eve Online.
As for you worthless ****ing ****s crying in this thread.. shut it or I'll punch your ****in pods all the way to Amarr.
You can't due to lag
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:26:00 -
[834]
Originally by: Mikaaro I think all you guys are missing the point of this award. You're supposed to vote for the BEST european online game. Not the perfect. I don't know about all you guys, but EVE is definately the best of the lot. It has problems, the lag-thing is terrible, there are things that sometimes make me yell, but still this is the only game I pay to play and pretty much the only game I play nowadays and has been for over a year. Nothing has been this addictive since Civ II.
If you really think EVE isn't the best game, then you should be playing the game that is. Since you clearly are playing EVE and I bet most of you play it more than any other game, EVE must still be the best there is.
tldr: Best means better than what exists, not better than than what you can imagine.
your missing the point of peoples anger here.
the point is people are tired of CCP not fixing the game, and have the nerve to come ask us help them sell more accounts , at the same time as they announce they wont do anything about the faults.
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Minx Smasher
Brutal Deliverance Art of Defiance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:27:00 -
[835]
Originally by: Mikaaro I think all you guys are missing the point of this award. You're supposed to vote for the BEST european online game. Not the perfect. I don't know about all you guys, but EVE is definately the best of the lot. It has problems, the lag-thing is terrible, there are things that sometimes make me yell, but still this is the only game I pay to play and pretty much the only game I play nowadays and has been for over a year. Nothing has been this addictive since Civ II.
If you really think EVE isn't the best game, then you should be playing the game that is. Since you clearly are playing EVE and I bet most of you play it more than any other game, EVE must still be the best there is.
tldr: Best means better than what exists, not better than than what you can imagine.
You're being a bit stupid here. it's not the BEST game due to the severe lag issues. thats one of the MAIN reasons why it's not the best...... the term unplayable comes to mind because of the issue.
It doesn't mean that we now hate the game, we the paying subscribers just want the issues fixed.
Given the way CCP handled the situation just irritated the playerbase, there's something to be said for people power yet :)
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Mr Putter
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:30:00 -
[836]
I voted. With my wallet. Three accounts unsubbed. Maybe in 18 months I will resub my accounts. I will check out the other games nominated.
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Mikaaro
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:32:00 -
[837]
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
Originally by: Mikaaro I think all you guys are missing the point of this award. You're supposed to vote for the BEST european online game. Not the perfect. I don't know about all you guys, but EVE is definately the best of the lot. It has problems, the lag-thing is terrible, there are things that sometimes make me yell, but still this is the only game I pay to play and pretty much the only game I play nowadays and has been for over a year. Nothing has been this addictive since Civ II.
If you really think EVE isn't the best game, then you should be playing the game that is. Since you clearly are playing EVE and I bet most of you play it more than any other game, EVE must still be the best there is.
tldr: Best means better than what exists, not better than than what you can imagine.
your missing the point of peoples anger here.
the point is people are tired of CCP not fixing the game, and have the nerve to come ask us help them sell more accounts , at the same time as they announce they wont do anything about the faults.
I completely understand the anger of you guys, but that's really not the issue here. If you think some other game is (of the nominated) is better then vote for it. If you think as I do that EVE is still the best there is then vote for EVE. It's that simple. For me the problems of late have reduced my enjoyment of the game in some areas. On other areas my enjoyment has increased. In total I think I'm a bit on the negative side from where I was a year ago, but still there isn't another game out there that comes even close.
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mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:32:00 -
[838]
It's been years since I experienced any major lag.. People have such short memories.. I remember being in yulai with 80 in local and the lag comparable now to jita with 1100..
To say CCP is doing nothing to fix lag is not only ridiculous.. its malicious
I won't lie, this thread is a bag of ****.
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Bait Van
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:37:00 -
[839]
Edited by: Bait Van on 29/07/2010 19:39:25 I tried to vote for Eve but I had to wait in queue (#57)
So I waited a while and tried to vote again, but kept getting black screen
Came back a little while later, but was told that even though I'm in the same alliance, I cannot use alliance member's voting booth, had to use my own, which was 27 jumps away.
Came back a little while after that, and spatial distortions interrupted my voting. Got a GM reply about how it is 'a feature. Working as intended.'
I asked to escalate the problem, and finally got another GM who gave me the exact opposite story, but then informed me that she couldn't actually do anything to help me. At least she told me it was NOT a feature that was working as intended.
I even tried shooting rockets at the page, but they just bounce harmlessly off the voting button, doing almost zero damage. I kind of figure...if CCP had given the assault frigates that 4th bonus that every other T2 ship gets, maybe it would have gotten the job done for me.
Instead I ended up emailing Kotaku and CVG and a few others about this thread:
Committment to Excellence
that is 85 pages long, 2100+ supports, and not a singe dev response. Maybe that will get some attention along with this thread. I sure hope so. Until then, I voted BF1943 as the best game.
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Mikaaro
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:38:00 -
[840]
Originally by: Minx Smasher
Originally by: Mikaaro I think all you guys are missing the point of this award. You're supposed to vote for the BEST european online game. Not the perfect. I don't know about all you guys, but EVE is definately the best of the lot. It has problems, the lag-thing is terrible, there are things that sometimes make me yell, but still this is the only game I pay to play and pretty much the only game I play nowadays and has been for over a year. Nothing has been this addictive since Civ II.
If you really think EVE isn't the best game, then you should be playing the game that is. Since you clearly are playing EVE and I bet most of you play it more than any other game, EVE must still be the best there is.
tldr: Best means better than what exists, not better than than what you can imagine.
You're being a bit stupid here. it's not the BEST game due to the severe lag issues. thats one of the MAIN reasons why it's not the best...... the term unplayable comes to mind because of the issue.
It doesn't mean that we now hate the game, we the paying subscribers just want the issues fixed.
Given the way CCP handled the situation just irritated the playerbase, there's something to be said for people power yet :)
It's the best there is regardless of the lag issues. If it makes it unplayable to you then don't play and go play something else 'till it's fixed. For me it doesn't make the game unplayable so I keep playing and enjoying.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:39:00 -
[841]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/07/2010 19:39:15
Originally by: mamolian It's been years since I experienced any major lag.. People have such short memories.. I remember being in yulai with 80 in local and the lag comparable now to jita with 1100..
To say CCP is doing nothing to fix lag is not only ridiculous.. its malicious
I won't lie, this thread is a bag of ****.
"Sorry our logs show nothing, if you feel the need to discuss this issue further submit a petition...thank you"
...come out of the basement once in while.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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RoboM
Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:39:00 -
[842]
FIX LOW SEC
NOONE CARES ABOUT WALKING IN STATIONS
/rage ends
Thanks for your attention
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Trhamp Sthamp
Caldari EVE Corporation1428
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:40:00 -
[843]
Edited by: Trhamp Sthamp on 29/07/2010 19:40:33 Yeah right, snow ball's chance in Hell, my friend. That's like cheating in the Special Olympics then asking us to cheer for you when you "won." I'd tell you to put on a helmet, but I think you're too ******ed for a helmet.
I'd highly appreciate attention being payed to the proper function of the system as it is now before introducing more heaps of code. Code that will likely have the same types of apathetic dev bugs existing in the current incarnation of EVE.
64-bit multi-threaded server code with support for multi-socket, multi-core CPUs, maybe even CUDA if calculations are required, with multicasting to reduce network IO and have it all built from SCRATCH is a good start.
Please fix what we have first before working on anything new. Thanks!
-TS
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Sendaton
404 Corporation Not Found
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:40:00 -
[844]
Edited by: Sendaton on 29/07/2010 19:43:09 Oh god, the hired PR agents are out en-masse in this thread to enact stage 2 damage control!
Consequences will never be the same!
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:43:00 -
[845]
Edited by: Djavo on 29/07/2010 19:43:22 Haha and it strikes again...
07-SLO System... 3 people in the system, go to a plex... nothing activates, 250mil lost... yay
Just waiting for the:
We are sorry to hear about your ship loss. Unfortunately we are unable to reimburse the ship as our server-side logs do not indicate that a bug/error within the game or a server related problem was the reason for your loss. Our reimbursement policies are very strict and we can only reimburse if we are able to verify that a bug or server error caused the loss. We hope that you understand our position and that you will recover swiftly from the loss.
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:51:00 -
[846]
Originally by: mamolian It's been years since I experienced any major lag.. People have such short memories.. I remember being in yulai with 80 in local and the lag comparable now to jita with 1100..
To say CCP is doing nothing to fix lag is not only ridiculous.. its malicious
I won't lie, this thread is a bag of ****.
Stop trolling, m8. We all know you don't play the game.
Brutix Starship Gray 0N-3RO (0.0) 05/29/10 17:09:00 3 Armageddon Daemon Lucifus Illamur (0.3) 12/15/09 23:43:00 7
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=mamolian
<3
How are you, mamo-cakes? ____________
HYDRA Reloaded - 2nd place at Alliance Tournament 8 EVE-Arena is awesome!
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Roidsterr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:58:00 -
[847]
Edited by: Roidsterr on 29/07/2010 20:00:08 EVE is a fun game, but it needs some serious TLC before Id rate it. Stop creating new junk and fix the core, then ask us again.
Edt--- Just saw Djavo's post... e are sorry to hear about your ship loss. Unfortunately we are unable to reimburse the ship as our server-side logs do not indicate that a bug/error within the game or a server related problem was the reason for your loss. Our reimbursement policies are very strict and we can only reimburse if we are able to verify that a bug or server error caused the loss. We hope that you understand our position and that you will recover swiftly from the loss.
Happened to me last night at a gate! got the same reply, maybe they got a robot dishing out these replies?
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phalanx III
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:59:00 -
[848]
I'd happily pay for a month of downtime if it meant CCP getting their **** together.
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farfrael
FP Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.29 19:59:00 -
[849]
Hahaha. Looks like CCP Zymurgist drew the short straw.
No. Just no I would love to vote for you but at the moment, you do not deserve it
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mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:00:00 -
[850]
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=mamolian
<3
How are you, mamo-cakes?
ive been called out ffffuuu! -----------
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Nova Satar
Heroes. The Uninvited.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:08:00 -
[851]
EVE ****ing sucks these days, just blob warfare everywhere you go and no sign of CCP giving a **** becuase all they care about is pleasing what they THINK are the "masses"
Sub runs out this weekend, and i aint renewing.
Sombody do the middle figners smiley for me!
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Jacobs Mori
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:13:00 -
[852]
I'll give you my vote when you take it from my cold, dead hands...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:15:00 -
[853]
Maybe in 18 months + 6 months for bugfixing/fixing broken ship classes/weapons/existing features in eve, sure. Until then - as each new feature gets added to the game, and CCP continues to ignore the core of eve (SPACESHIPS), I get closer and closer to hitting the unsubscribe button...
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Turdilious
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:20:00 -
[854]
We are sorry to hear about your nomination for the European gaming awards. Unfortunately we are unable to vote for you as our logs do not indicate that you care about your customers losses. Our reimbursement policies are very strict and we can only reimburse if we are able to verify that you gave a damn about your customerÆs issues. We hope that you understand our position and that you will recover swiftly from your lack of votes.
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GETOFFMYLAWN HIPPIE
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:25:00 -
[855]
love the thread, ccp has completely dropped the ball on their game. 9 accounts with subs running out and not gonna be coming back. new expansions with crappy broken content that will never be fixed is not what people want. walking in stations is a horrible idea, and a sub par console based shooter attached to a pc game is doomed to failure. awards are earned, not deserved.
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Sivona
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:26:00 -
[856]
CCP has come a long way from a very small but great developer to a very successful one which has lost what made it so great.
It was to be expected but it's very sad to see.
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Maya Silverman
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:28:00 -
[857]
Posting to agree with everyone else, you won't be getting my vote as long as you don't fix the current content rather than creating new, broken content. So, in 18 months eh?
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:31:00 -
[858]
"BLAME THE VOLCANO!"...its about as good as any other B*LL-SH*T damage control lies that have been used so far, proly better.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Jacobs Gladedage
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:34:00 -
[859]
Normally I would never register at a site like this but I'll make an exception to vote against eve.
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ArmyOfMe
TAKEN. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:34:00 -
[860]
Originally by: Supay
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online for best online game!
Our logs show nothing.
/thread
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Xpaulusx
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:40:00 -
[861]
Vote for Eve?!?!........umm nope, fix the lag then maybe next time
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:43:00 -
[862]
I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
CCP have: - greatly enhanced the beauty of the gaming world - offered new ways to make ones own fortune - created a greater challenge in establishing dominion - made improvements in mineral yields for miners [true, more can be done] - continuously invested in better hardware which will translate in a better user experience - made it possible for more people to make tentative steps into the shadow world of zero-sec and take a peek at all the riches that can be had - continuously made improvements to the user interface [although it would be too kind to say that work is done] - created a user base that is as fiercely fanatical as it can be childishly impetuous [and not very strong in the spelling department] - been just about the only [that I am aware of] MMO that has created a system of persistent user representation through the CSM. It is not perfect, but no form of government is. - been nothing short of generous [100000 extra skill points -and- a free new spaceframe for -every- account] whenever it feared it had overly burdened its user base.
And all this with a flair for technological innovation and pizzaz that does not have an equal in the universe of online gaming on planet Earth today.
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
Val Vherosan
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:43:00 -
[863]
Just no.
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:46:00 -
[864]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
Hi Abuturd,
You clearly have no technical background. Maybe you shouldn't be the spokesperson for CCP's defense.
Cheers, -MistressDoom
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MIRKINZ
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:46:00 -
[865]
No. Gimme MY game back and lemme shoot my guns and load grid, no random e-warps, etc, etc... This sheet is really getting old... Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:47:00 -
[866]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/07/2010 20:47:29
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
CCP have: - greatly enhanced the beauty of the gaming world - offered new ways to make ones own fortune - created a greater challenge in establishing dominion - made improvements in mineral yields for miners [true, more can be done] - continuously invested in better hardware which will translate in a better user experience - made it possible for more people to make tentative steps into the shadow world of zero-sec and take a peek at all the riches that can be had - continuously made improvements to the user interface [although it would be too kind to say that work is done] - created a user base that is as fiercely fanatical as it can be childishly impetuous [and not very strong in the spelling department] - been just about the only [that I am aware of] MMO that has created a system of persistent user representation through the CSM. It is not perfect, but no form of government is. - been nothing short of generous [100000 extra skill points -and- a free new spaceframe for -every- account] whenever it feared it had overly burdened its user base.
And all this with a flair for technological innovation and pizzaz that does not have an equal in the universe of online gaming on planet Earth today.
Ummm...ok...NOT!
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:49:00 -
[867]
Originally by: Tobruk CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
This needs to be quoted on every page
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Halarach
Amarr Triphase Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:50:00 -
[868]
Edited by: Halarach on 29/07/2010 20:51:29 I just jumped from a 2 men crowded system to a 3 men crowded system and it took me 30 seconds to jump.
Scanner won't scan or will sometime scan after 30s. Granted a big fight is happening somewhere else and that is impacting me but seriously can't bother anymore.
I'll let my accounts expire during summer holidays.
I'm usually a quite mature and respectful person (almost 30, 2 kids etc.) but after quite a few months of that **** I have to say **** YOU CCP.
****
YOU
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Cpt WilliamKidd
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:51:00 -
[869]
no. period. aoc. period.
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ashstyx
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:57:00 -
[870]
All this game needs is new management, the current 1 is just well im lost for words, i have a few words from some members of eve that do not wish to be named:
lose the marketing directors and start using ur own brain
stop worring about new subbys, start worrying about the ones u have
think about alot of the playes that have played for years and years that have spent thousands of úúú that they could have spent else where, fix it and u will re gain atleast 20% of the ppl that have already quit cos of the lag...
40-50k ppl online at 1 time what happens if they all stop playing like a mass strike, it will happen now think about what every1 else is saying 29 pages of the same thing listen to us ffs....
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Johan Moisander
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:58:00 -
[871]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
CCP have: - greatly enhanced the beauty of the gaming world - offered new ways to make ones own fortune - created a greater challenge in establishing dominion - made improvements in mineral yields for miners [true, more can be done] - continuously invested in better hardware which will translate in a better user experience - made it possible for more people to make tentative steps into the shadow world of zero-sec and take a peek at all the riches that can be had - continuously made improvements to the user interface [although it would be too kind to say that work is done] - created a user base that is as fiercely fanatical as it can be childishly impetuous [and not very strong in the spelling department] - been just about the only [that I am aware of] MMO that has created a system of persistent user representation through the CSM. It is not perfect, but no form of government is. - been nothing short of generous [100000 extra skill points -and- a free new spaceframe for -every- account] whenever it feared it had overly burdened its user base.
And all this with a flair for technological innovation and pizzaz that does not have an equal in the universe of online gaming on planet Earth today.
You don't say
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:59:00 -
[872]
Originally by: MistressDoom
Hi Abuturd,
You clearly have no technical background. Maybe you shouldn't be the spokesperson for CCP's defense.
Cheers, -MistressDoom
Irony and puns, two things you're not good at.
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
Takakura Hirohito
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Posted - 2010.07.29 20:59:00 -
[873]
Originally by: mamolian It's been years since I experienced any major lag.. People have such short memories.. I remember being in yulai with 80 in local and the lag comparable now to jita with 1100..
To say CCP is doing nothing to fix lag is not only ridiculous.. its malicious
I won't lie, this thread is a bag of ****.
Are you serious? You think Jita is what we are all upset about? Jita is fine because it is reinforced, like every other high-sec hub. And, a few patches ago, 0.0 was fine if it was reinforced (and before that, was generally fine if not reinforced). Now, reinforced or not, it is impossible to have a large fleet engagements like we used to. Leave hello-kitty playland and you'll find lag is a very different beast.
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Hardo Kaan
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:00:00 -
[874]
installing world of warcraft ... 69% done
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MIRKINZ
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:01:00 -
[875]
I wanted to say eet again cuz i felt it should be read multiple times on one page..
"I tried to vote, but first it said that there had been more than 200 votes cast already and locked up for half an hour before it loaded the page. Then I had to press the vote button about forty times before it registered, at which point it stopped responding and just kept trying to vote solidly for 45 minutes. Fortunately, none of them counted apparently, as I started bouncing back and forth between the poll page and the link that got me to it for about half an hour before my browser went black, my iPhone went on fire and I went to bed.
I complained that they'd not counted my vote for excellent space MMO Eve Online but they said that their records showed nothing and that it was my own fault for trying to vote in the same poll as more than thirty other people." Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Lord Wimbishi
Caldari Forge Regional Security United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:04:00 -
[876]
7 Years with 5 accounts - over.
I am becoming an alt and getting mothballed. CCP has lost the vision that made them rise above all the clones, clickfests, and grindmobiles and walked right back into that entire affair with the attrocity that is Planetary Frustration.
My 5 accounts are being collapsed down to two. This char will be an alt to an empire blueprint research drone with less than 2m SP... because there's no reason to continue my training.
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Coldman Strangelove
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:06:00 -
[877]
Oh for peep sake just acknowledge that your game is broken, rather then continue on this arrogant perspective. What happen to the old ccp that we came to love???
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Sensei Cohiba
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:07:00 -
[878]
Just posting to say no CCP.
Im cheap tho, I would vote even if you made a token effort and restored the old capital jump effect.
PLEASE!!
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Drama Llama
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:11:00 -
[879]
This is my type of thread.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:11:00 -
[880]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/07/2010 21:13:08
Ok CCP...30 pages of YOUR customer base, from Null-Sec to High-Sec telling you, asking you, pleading with you...and all asking for the same thing...hardly a troll in the bunch...doesn't that drop a not so subtle hint?
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Maya Harlequin
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:17:00 -
[881]
In 18 months maybe, as long as you refuse to fix the current issues and only focus on cheap (and most likely, unfinished) new features you won't get this vote.
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Adelina Jasna
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:19:00 -
[882]
CCP instead of needlessly adding features fix the current ones, such as I don't know Rockets? Still waiting for an upgrade option for my command centers.
Like I've said in the past many times why add features when the current ones can't be enjoyed because they're broken or incomplete.
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Coldman Strangelove
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:23:00 -
[883]
oh crap, we've been kotaku.
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Claudius Hellbourne
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:24:00 -
[884]
Just want to start my post by saying, this lag isn't just in 0.0. ( And stating it isn't my net as I'm on fios, and my computer is by no means out of date. ) For the past two if not three days, I have been in high sec ( Around dodixie and aunia, etc. ) And having some of the same issues always complained about ( in o.o ), in that area. I'm told there is some war with Atlas going on, and it's comforting to know it can effect people no where near the area.
I've peeked into 0.0 a few times over the years, had great friends in null sec corps/alliances, and I have to say, I'm disappointed. I'm currently grinding my butt off to play eve and pay the next few months with isk ( financial issues ), but I'm finding it hard to continue. Aside from this account, there are others just in my household I am paying for, as well as one out of it, but as it stands, they will soon stop ( this time not for the financial reason. ) There IS an issue with eve, broken or not, or however it cares to be worded. For those of us grinding to get into 0.0 or wanting to go back, there is nothing but frustration and the thought of " well what's the point of all this work if I'm just going to be joining a lag fest? I'm certainly not playing eve to mine and mission in empire during my free time. "
The other accounts end subs next month, my main in September. I would give the default " see you in 18 months " comment, but there are games coming out I will be taking my money to. Sorry eve, but the years have been good.
/signed
RIP Ranius/Thrain/Claudius/Father A
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Deldrac
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:29:00 -
[885]
I considered voting for EVE 22 times. But instead I voted for random **** nobody cares about 87 times.
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Hardass01
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:29:00 -
[886]
Well i was in my carrier in system about to vote and a huge cap fleet jumped in and lagged the system out so instead of voting for EVE i miss clicked and ended up voting for Frogger instead sorry it was the lags fault :(
Come on CCP it works like this you scratch our backs we scratch yours
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Titus Phook
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:30:00 -
[887]
Vote? hell no I'd rather attempt to suicide gank a megathron in a pod
btw the killmail post.. epic, truly epic
It's broken, sack your marketers, they know bugger all, stop playing with your other toys and fix the game that your user base pays for & has made your name.
bring back contrails to, they look fapping awesome in the old promo vids
--------------------------------------------- Yes this is my alt. and you're reading my sig |
NereSky
Gallente Domination.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:30:00 -
[888]
Well - tbh thinking you deserve a award gave me a giggle, fix the customer support, fix the game,
these have been echo'd ever since ive been playing and yet new contet added, worked on and never followed through but the basics as always shover under the rug.
I remember a no' of years ago now i asked how much has been swept under the rug and was never answered (no suprises there) I think CCP forget that they have a core number of players that are still passionate although that core will keep on dwindling.
Ill alway remember a quote from CCP trying to say there is no lag (always made me laugh though) How can you expect me to say to other gamers how much better Eve is when tbh it isnt when you cant address petitions/concerns, mess up orders with the shop, bring out shiny worthless content, still ignore the basics of lag and failing to meet expectations that you yourself set us
no votes from me
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:35:00 -
[889]
I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
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Saehta
Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:36:00 -
[890]
Edited by: Saehta on 29/07/2010 21:36:46 http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa7/Spleener12/Reaction%20pics/1257443836328.jpg -----------------------------------
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Shiftless
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:37:00 -
[891]
Let's see... The sov mechanic is completely broken. Fleet lag is insane. PI was screwed before it left the gate.
Simple answer: No
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Riley Moore
Obscurus Research
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:39:00 -
[892]
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Quoting this because it's such a fantastic post. 110% agreeing with it.
------- Obscuras Blueprints Store
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Val Vherosan
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:40:00 -
[893]
Originally by: cotcodac Whenever you hit the lag wall, instead of whining on this forum (helps for nothing) go tell your opinion, leave your comment on the review sites, the one that people uses to chose their next games to play and the ones CCP uses to promote their game. Here are few examples:
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/eveonlineapocrypha?q=eve%20online - this particular one is used by Steam and European Games Award in giving Eve Online a score.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/eveonlinetyrannis/review.html?tag=tabs;reviews
http://www.mmocrunch.com/mmorpg-game-list/?game=eve-online
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14
If you go check the sites out you'll see how conveniently they are basing their score on Apocrypha and some reviews back from May 2009. Feel free to drop European Games Award a line about this too @ http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/contact
This. Clearly CCP do not care what we're telling them, so tell the rest of the world what you think of the current state of EVE.
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Okiedokiefella
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:41:00 -
[894]
Edited by: Okiedokiefella on 29/07/2010 21:41:09 Voted for an enjoyable game, hope 1943 wins
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Caliph Scorpionsting
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:42:00 -
[895]
Just replying because for some reason I still have gametime on my account. I would never vote this game as being good anything, except for a good way to get frustrated. The mechanics are inherently frustrating, and the bug ridden final product of EVE Online is even worse. The only good free expansion this game ever had was Red Moon Rising. CCP really dropped the ball on EVE, and I don't foresee buying any of their other games. Ever. Cancelled my 3 accounts to stop funding the rotten shark foundation and am now paying for an online game where I can have fun without having to wait hours and hours.
Seriously, this game could have been golden. Bigass space fights could have been the basis. But instead, CCP decides to make the most expansive game world into an economic simulator bore-fest. Well played ccp, now I get to much through this thread and read how everyone sees your terribly implemented pitifully planned out game.
CCP's "logs show nothing" stance is a joke. Welp. Time to go play some more wow. Goblins in cataclysm are gonna be totally badass. Good riddance to this ****ty game.
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Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:54:00 -
[896]
Reporting in to say no. No to voting with having to register to vote and No to EvE Online Executives. I love you Devvers, but it's time for a massive strike ___________
NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
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Syral Khouri
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Posted - 2010.07.29 21:57:00 -
[897]
the lag has become unbearable! Just say yes to fixing it!
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Kyra Tryton
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:00:00 -
[898]
Voted for Jumpgate Evolution.
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Tamarant
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:00:00 -
[899]
"Just say no" |
Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:01:00 -
[900]
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Reasonable Goon-posts.. the end (of EVE) is neigh __________________________________________________
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar Forsaken Legions Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:02:00 -
[901]
Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 29/07/2010 22:02:23
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist but needs your vote to win the competition.
You might get it in 18 months
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Victor C
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:02:00 -
[902]
Edited by: Victor C on 29/07/2010 22:03:12 Fix the current issues first. After so many years eve is like a beta game. No vote from me.
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SiN x
Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:10:00 -
[903]
Edited by: SiN x on 29/07/2010 22:10:25 You cannot imagine how happy I am that we will have walking in stations, and now have PI. It helps keep me busy while the rest of the game is completely unplayable due to lag. ---------
What is this programularatering you speak of? - Cortes
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:11:00 -
[904]
Edited by: MistressDoom on 29/07/2010 22:12:00
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
QFT
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Fleeting Apparition
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:11:00 -
[905]
Sorry I tried to vote with the in game browser but I lagged out and there is no record of my vote.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:13:00 -
[906]
Well, this went well
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Mulm
Minmatar DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:13:00 -
[907]
Remove all the teams from Incarna/Dust and make them work on making a playable game and rollback all the crap you added to the game.
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Xiang Jiao
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:14:00 -
[908]
Originally by: Monkey Saturday Brilliant. Looks like damage control is again overheating. I will enjoy watching ccp take it in the butt from the gaming media community at large.
Much more fun than trying to play their game.
CCP can overheat the Damage Control Unit? I've tried on numerous occasions and can't seem to ever get it to work. The log tells me is that Tyrannis is awesome, and I'll really love Incarna, and this feature may be available in 18 months. *mystified*
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Weynard
Caldari Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:15:00 -
[909]
Nice job. You just killed another fleetfight. Regarding OP, no.
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RD Hooker
Space Explorations and Excavations Galactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:16:00 -
[910]
All I can say, is thanks to Valve for giving me Alien Swarm to play free-of-charge while waiting on lag to de-f*ck itself. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida |
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:21:00 -
[911]
Stop ruining the dynamic nature of this game dammit.
Ditto on Alien Swarm!
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Mutnin
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:22:00 -
[912]
While I'm not as unhappy with the game as many of the posters here, I can still sympathize with them. Over all, the many broken things in EVE don't greatly affect me and what I do, but I'm honestly not happy with CCP and the fact they are largely ignoring the player bases requests.
I remember dealing with black screen lag and losing pods and ships because of 30 vs 30 engagements back in FW, back when FW suffered from almost the same issues that 00 does today. For this reason, I know exactly what the players there are going through and I will give the unhappy players my support rather than a vote for EVE.
CCP put a decent amount of effort in fixing the lag issues for FW and they in fact did fix it. It saddens me that a issue like this has gone on so long out in null sec, as it wasn't something that just popped up from the last expansion but rather the one before.
The fact that this issue has not been made top priority long ago and fixed many months ago, shows that CCP is not interested in fixing the game, but rather more interested in chasing new 2 week trials conversions.
Null sec lag, is just one of a long list of broken things and features left ignored however it's likely the most pressing at the moment. I personally can not show support for a game company that ignores it's existing paying customers and looks at them as a lower priority vs getting new two week trial conversions.
For this reason I can't vote for EVE Online, as I believe it's better to show CCP that they need to rethink their direction and re-embrace the player base.
EVE is a great game and CCP has a lot to be proud of for what they have done. However, the current issue at hand is that CCP has lost the direction in which they found their success in the MMO world. Maybe this topic and the players backlash, will help steer them back on the right direction. CCP needs to understand that it's not just new players that create future success but also their existing ones.
Show us that you care about your existing paying customer base and start fixing the many broken things in EVE and we will show you are support as well.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:26:00 -
[913]
I do love Eve, but I'm not a fan of how it's been run lately, so I decided to give you a chance. I decided that I would vote for Eve if and only if I could do so on the IGB, and otherwise I'd vote for Perfect Dark(not that I've played the new one, but the N64 version was sweet, so I figured I owed them one).
Much to my surprise, it actually worked. The IGB could render the page, open my webmail account, register me to vote, browse to the page in question, and cast a vote for your game. I didn't expect it to be able to do that. So I have to say, while your game is broken, it's at least 10% less broken than I thought. Voting for your game over four others I've never played before isn't the most ringing endorsement, but it's what you've got from me. Congrats and enjoy the vote, it's probably the only one you're going to get from this thread. === "The data does not support that polished quality sells better than new features" "Once Incarna and Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement" CCP, FTW? |
Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League Eternal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:27:00 -
[914]
i guess to their credit ccp have kept this thread open and still stickied lol
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risall
Volatile Nature Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:28:00 -
[915]
seriously CCP, you really thought that the majority of the player base would vote for you? Why? What part of "fix the game its as broke as a broken thing", dont you understand? Also, you do realise that by now, players are starting to take a little look into the legal implications behind your inability to deliver what you advertise are features of this game? Your EULA cannot protect you from everything, its just a matter of time tbh. What I cant understand is, why you insist that all is well.....
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Inka Kaoru
The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:33:00 -
[916]
This is incredible. It's like the devs are blind and deaf.
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William Pierce
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:34:00 -
[917]
This thread is too funny
Really CCP, did you expect anything different?
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Cheeba Don
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:35:00 -
[918]
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Gah sensible goon post!
The end is nigh!
On a more serious note, I love EVE. But on an even more serious note, I implore you to fix some of the HUGE issues with the game as it currently stands. I wont exaggerate and say I will be unsubscribing, but I am dissappointed and wouldnt recommend this game to friends as I once did. ---------
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:37:00 -
[919]
How to find/fix the problem:
1. Load Sisi with Apocrypha 1.5 code (ie: the last version of the game in which we could have 1,000 in a fight in an unreinforced node with definite but workable lag. Have play test. Collect logs.
2. Load Sisi with current code, run the same test, do regression testing on THE CODE THAT CHANGED IN BETWEEN to figure out what caused the fact that nodes can't even support 1/5th the number of players they did a year ago.
Simply put, CCP has failed to run a proper software development house and has not tested the effects of new code/new features when added to real playing environments and do not do regression (ie: when something goes bad, test to find out what caused it) testing.
The reason why people are so ****ed off is that we KNOW that huge fleet fights ARE POSSIBLE, because WE HAD THEM. That's why we aren't going to tolerate vague platitudes and promises, we want a return of the space game to the state it was in when the new Nehalam nodes and stackless I/O hit.
Also, you need to accelerate development of something you talked about some time ago, that being making the server self load balance. IE: allocate CPU/RAM etc to the nodes that need them in real time. As in, make the nodes reinforce themselves automatically AS THINGS HAPPEN. Fights can happen anywhere at any time. We can't always tell you in advance, because we don't KNOW in advance.
Pull all that off, and you deserve to be voted for an award. Ignore it, add your DUST console kiddz MMO and "The Sims on Stations" update on top of a broken core game and you are going to soon be wondering, "dude, where did my subscriber base go?".
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Bloody Meridian
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:46:00 -
[920]
CCP - ****ing in our face and telling us it's raining.
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w1ndstrike
Honored By Death Galactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:48:00 -
[921]
Originally by: Monkey Saturday You guys either have really big balls or you're just plain pants-on-head.
I'm thinking full pants-on-head at this stage of things.....
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:50:00 -
[922]
So I stopped reading at about page 8, it became pretty clear that the players were unanimous on not voting until *lag is fixed/FW is fixed/Rockets are fixed/etc*. After that I just scrolled through looking for CCP comments. Those I saw were positive, bringing up something this negative to marketing usually has some impact. It remains to be seen if the impact produces a reaction of "Lets fix the things the players want" or "DAMAGE CONTROL". I'm betting on damage control.
Now some people seem to say (a shrinking minority) that unless you are ready to quit paying for Eve, then it's obviously good, so you should vote. Some are already canceling accounts, but I think what I see the majority of is people who still think Eve is a damn good game, and IT IS! Eve is great! BUT it could be better, and should be better. CCP made a commitment to Excellence, and then went on to say
Originally by: " that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
I won't be voting for Eve for the same reason a lot of players here aren't. They still believe Eve is good enough to pay for, but feel that voting for Eve will send the wrong message to upper management. That they can keep pushing off fixing issues for years and years while shoveling out new content and Eve will continue being voted game of the year!
I hope CCP management are starting to get the message. If you don't get what the players here want by now then you never will. Go ahead with your DUST and WIS, it's halfway out the door and can't be stopped now, I don't even necessary think it's a bad idea, though I think you should have fixed issues before you started on them. In any case it's too late now, but you need to make promises to the players though, not halfhearted ones, but promises you -will- be held accountable for, to fix the issues with this game after those are done. Unless you start making a clear effort to give the players some attention this is only going to get worse. Sure, we're the players, and you have pros in marketing telling you what will and won't generate more revenue, so keep listening to them, after all, how much worse can get it, and then it'll all subside with WIS and these issues will be forgotten... right?
right?
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:51:00 -
[923]
CCP,
We all love the idea that is EVE, but like a long-term relationship gone bad we simply remember the good times and say "It's just a phase. He doesn't hit me all the time. Things will be like they used to be soon."
Like a battered spouse we stay with you.
Because we still love you.
But we're starting to realize we shouldn't and there are others out there will treat us like you used to.
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Desdemonique
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:54:00 -
[924]
Due to continued lag problems and other problems that I personally have had with CCP I am voting for someone else to win this award. I love playing EVE and have played for years but CCP has continued to lie to us and not do as they have said they would and fix the current game.
Instead of fixing the current game problems which there are many, they give us new patch after new patch adding more items and things to the game that only create further problems. EVE is on the brink as it is right now of not working properely and losing more of their older players that have made EVE what it is today.
Therefore I cannot vote for CCP to win this award and hope that it will go to another worthy competitor.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:59:00 -
[925]
Edited by: Abulurd Boniface on 29/07/2010 23:03:25
What I wonder about, in the still of the night [and why is it still, why am I not running a nice bit of music? Hang on, let me fix that first..., there. Thanks for waiting] is: how long the threadnaught is going to be when Hilmar decides he's had it up to here [indicates a point 5 inches above his head] with his spoiled little legion of children and sells the whole nine yards to a big game shop, say: ActiVision, so that we can then contend with the likes of Robert Kotick, who is to gaming like being shot in the face with both barrels of a sawn off shotgun is to a french kiss.
There are two concerns: lag and features.
Lag is an issue and I have suffered from it myself. What you do against that is to use the means at your disposal [and I'm not referring to this mutual gratification fest]. You contact your CSM representative and you have them say: "We represent a complaint from n amount of players [but you'd actually like to say 'from n amount of pilots] (where n is the largest amount possible) about lag in the game. They see it as the single greatest obstacle to a great user experience." You address the problem not as a bunch of dirty diapers that are smelling nicely amongst themselves, but rather as an interested [and paying] party in the New Eden equation. That is something that will gain traction, if you do it right.
At the same time you could mention a list of issues with in-game features that are demonstrably problematic [i.e.: showstoppers] and for which an urgent resolution is required. Your pet peeves and hang ups are not part of that debate [but thanks for bringing it up though, we always like to hear from you, we love you the most].
If that message is communicated in the language that product management/marketing understands, it will be a lot easier to sell the idea that a fix would be a really good idea, the current drive for the release of Dust514 notwithstanding, to at least address issues for which a case can be made that they are a systemic weakness in the gaming experience.
Much though I like a good fecal matter slinging myself, it is my professional experience that the well-founded, revenue-based argument is the one that more easily catches the ear of the board room.
CCP wants to drive its grand vision forward, and an ambitious one it is, its first duty should be to its loyal and, dare I say, vocal customer base.
Keeping the previous argument in mind, I would be really pleasantly surprised if all the candor and vigor that was invested in what the sociologists of the future will hold to be a fascinating account of the dynamic multi-user interaction with a view to persuade the board room to change its ways - a case study in customer response to perceived losses in the value chain of an online gaming universe at the start of the Third Millennium, in an equally robust gathering of the minds, across corporations and alliances alike, with a view to pool this vast resource of anger and frustration into a point source of a determined effort to persuade senior management at CCP to address the immediate need of the player base.
I have been disappointed in my expectation of what humanity can do before, don't let this occasion, this opportunity, this worthy cause be another such sadly missed opportunity.
I'm counting on you, brothers and sisters of New Eden. Do us proud!
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
comrade christopher
Minmatar Pink Bunnies
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:12:00 -
[926]
to you, dear Marketing Managers
eve pre-2009
eve player's buddy: oh, what is it that you're playing?
eve player: that's EVE online
eve player's buddy: looks cool
eve player: ye
eve player's buddy: so what is it that you do there?
eve player: everything, pvp, pve, industry, market, and tons of stuff i haven't even tried yet, sorry but it's just to complex for me to explain it, you just need to try it.
eve player's buddy: so like world of worcraft ?
eve player: you mad?! o_0 it's just... like you have here around 40,000 thousand mostly mature players playing together at any given moment in one non-instanced world, there is a free open market that is driven by supply and demand, you have thousands-people strong corporations and alliances and fleet battles that can blow your mind hundrets or even thousands of people strong fleets, how dare you even compare it to WoW! apologize or die s****!!!
eve player's buddy: haha, you're really cracked aren't ya ?
eve player: oh shut up already and get yourself a trial, i have a fleet op now!
eve 2010
eve player's buddy: oh, what is it that you're playing?
eve player: that's EVE online
eve player's buddy: looks cool
eve player: nah, i log in just to chat with my old mateys,
eve player's buddy: like a chat?
eve player: ya, like a frikin 19$ a month chat
so.... dear Marketing Managers very frikin good job, consider yourself promoted and proceed to Microsoft now.
ps. we're just playin with ya, we really love ya and we know it's not your fault, you're not a dev, you just had this great quaterly gain plan that worked well (according to your data)
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Niveo
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:13:00 -
[927]
Well I voted for EVE. Despite the (huge) problems I still like this game more than the others. Granted I'm not exactly being affected in a heavy way by the lag and such. Also after reading this topic I kinda felt sorry for all the people at CCP so this is (partially?) a sympathy vote as well.
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andeira
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:20:00 -
[928]
will cast my vote in like 18 months or so cause you said game will be fixed then
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Darth Kilth
Minmatar M. Corp Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:24:00 -
[929]
I will not Cast my vote for EVE until I see prove that CCP is actively prioritising the back log, old bugs and glitches and improvement of the current lag issues.
Sincerely, DK
Originally by: CCP Capslock OH GOD THE TESTING
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Ospie
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:29:00 -
[930]
Listen to your player base sooner rather than later or it will be decreasing.
Point in case, of a group of my RL friends who've played eve for several years there are now only 6 accounts active out the 18 this time last year.
Fix your game cause dust is going to be biggest flop CCP has put out.
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SlavojZizek
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:43:00 -
[931]
as a brand NEW player CCP is so desperate for, I have to say I must have picked the worst time to finally buy this game. I left wow because of similar antics, but it kind of made sense from their angle. WoW is a game where you're inserted into an already existing story, so to keep millions of people playing they have to keep making new content constantly, and unfortunately for them they got way ahead of themselves. that said, bugs weren't one of their major problems.
CCP, you have designed this game to be about the players, the game IS the players, and the mechanics are already so incredibly complex I really don't understand why you're working on completely separate content... more for us new guys to have to learn... instead of fixing bugs we have to learn to work AROUND instead of learning the game itself.
I'm sticking with you guys for now because of the players and the unique dynamic your game retains with or without bugs... but if you lose more veterans than you gain n00bs you'll be in a world of hurt, and the players that are left won't even see what's made this game what it is, because it will be gone.
I've also joined the closed beta test of Perpetuum. there's only like 6 guys on their staff, so who knows if they'll have the thing polished up in 18 months, but if they manage to keep the bugs down people might pick their game over yours despite the lack of PI or roaming avatars.
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Selephena Harcott
SpaceBalls Academy G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:45:00 -
[932]
Itz simplez as Zigae say's.
WE DONT WANT EXPANSIONS, I DONT CARE IF I CAN TAKE MY AVATAR FOR A NUMBER TWO I WANT A WORKING GAME!
Currently have 2 unsubbed chars, and 2 more chars that im going to let lapse after renewal is due, cos lag sucks donkey nutz. FIX the game that exists for those that care the most, that generate the politics, that make a single shard server worth it.
Or chase the WoW formula and create shards, so you can get more people on cos the way that CCP is going its going to kill the game, id rather be slapped in the face then being rear ended
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RogueMind
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:05:00 -
[933]
Edited by: RogueMind on 30/07/2010 00:07:17 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782 NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.
But...... http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
Perhaps something changed?
-- Opinions are my own.
Torp Nerfing: A thousand BS Campers cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...
EVE Trinity: The first game where Vista pwned XP. |
Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:06:00 -
[934]
Please read the post you quoted first... the poster is implying that TOO much has been added.
Also please refrain from personal attacks.
Originally by: Syn Callibri Edited by: Syn Callibri on 29/07/2010 21:03:58
Originally by: Abuturdburglar Boneinmyface I just found the reason for all the lag in the system: it's thousands of people on one shard incessantly complaining about lag. All those messages have to be sent and received and it ads an ungodly amount of needless traffic through the pipe that would otherwise have gone to more useful things such as, top of my head here, placing a carrier on the grid in less time than it takes for the greater EVE community [oh, what boisterous venom is captured in that word] to erupt in a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.
CCP have: - greatly enhanced the beauty of the gaming world - offered new ways to make ones own fortune - created a greater challenge in establishing dominion - made improvements in mineral yields for miners [true, more can be done] - continuously invested in better hardware which will translate in a better user experience - made it possible for more people to make tentative steps into the shadow world of zero-sec and take a peek at all the riches that can be had - continuously made improvements to the user interface [although it would be too kind to say that work is done] - created a user base that is as fiercely fanatical as it can be childishly impetuous [and not very strong in the spelling department] - been just about the only [that I am aware of] MMO that has created a system of persistent user representation through the CSM. It is not perfect, but no form of government is. - been nothing short of generous [100000 extra skill points -and- a free new spaceframe for -every- account] whenever it feared it had overly burdened its user base.
And all this with a flair for technological innovation and pizzaz that does not have an equal in the universe of online gaming on planet Earth today.
What are you some kind of Tard fanboi lackey?
(edit: profanity filter won't let you spell s-c-r-a-p-e...rofl.)
THIS POST IS TERRIBLE
Do NOT attack CCP Devs here. You do not know CCP Manifest, he could be the best employee there, you are out of line, and should delete/or apologize.
Apollo
Originally by: Miss Connolly
Originally by: CCP Manifest YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
Suck less, then it might stop hurting.
Trying to compensate your technical ineptitude and ******ed (read non-existant) QA process by means of marketing was a bad call.
Admit you suck, fire Zulu, replace him with someone who actually plays EVE, focus on the core game mechanic, fix lag issues and then I might vote for you in 18 months. If I even still play by then (I already suspended 1 of my 3 accounts out of protest).
CCP Commit to Excellence by September 1st 2010
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Shtirlec
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:06:00 -
[935]
Edited by: Shtirlec on 30/07/2010 00:09:23 yeah....sooo, you are not getting the award...I hope, unless those empire carebears all vote for it... and I voted already with my wallet, unsubscribed.
btw, this gives u guys a year to fix ****, dont just waste it plz....
Originally by: Fleeting Apparition Sorry I tried to vote with the in game browser but I lagged out and there is no record of my vote.
and after reading that ^^^^^
im gonna go on firefox and check if I unsubscribed... =P
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:07:00 -
[936]
You think you deserve an award for this garbage? Pre-Dominion Eve was great. What we have now is junk. Fix your game. Focus on EVE. Stop with the nonsense. Get back to your core, why we PAY your salaries. SPACESHIP COMBAT.
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BOB DaBui1der
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:19:00 -
[937]
Way to flat out lie in your pr damage control that the lag is your #1 priority...
Countdown till it blows up your ****** faces
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Typhena
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:31:00 -
[938]
Fix the lag first. --- Sig Under Construction |
oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:31:00 -
[939]
maybe they can make the 90 % bot population in the drone regions or the other thousands of macros vote. would sure help.
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Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:38:00 -
[940]
Sounds like EVE Online: Tyrannis doesn't deserve to win!
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:40:00 -
[941]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn You think you deserve an award for this garbage? Pre-Dominion Eve was great. What we have now is junk. Fix your game. Focus on EVE. Stop with the nonsense. Get back to your core, why we PAY your salaries. SPACESHIP COMBAT.
I never thought I'd agree with this guy, but I'm completely 100% in agreement.
To ask us to vote you in for an award, with the state the game is in at the moment... this is the stupidest thing I've heard in weeks. And I have a trade alt in Jita.
Wake the hell up.
Selective Pressure is recruiting. |
NSA Bivas
Gallente Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:43:00 -
[942]
Edited by: NSA Bivas on 30/07/2010 00:45:05 Edited by: NSA Bivas on 30/07/2010 00:43:16 http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
first u wana create full body avatars?
why do u have ppl of the street managing @ there get someone whit brains fix the dam bugs in the game then introduce nu things then u fix the new things or someone will come whit on the market whit a similar game and then u will just die in a fier
something like http://www.perpetuum-online.com/
and most of the guys i used to play we play now http://www.worldoftanks.com/
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Extreme Chaos
Caldari Yggdrasil Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:43:00 -
[943]
Edited by: Extreme Chaos on 30/07/2010 00:43:40 Not only am I not voting Im heavily thinking about canceling all 7 of my accounts, It seems your going the way of Blizzard and Sony getting disconnected from your players and fans, I hope the new players you get from DUST will outway the many your losing monthly because of your actions or lack there of. o/ |
Sneaky Noob
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:43:00 -
[944]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist but needs your vote to win the competition.
Sorry CCP, I'm one of those silly people that thinks polished features and working game mechanics are more important than WiS and some console FPS I will probably never play.
You don't get my vote. I love this game and but ATM, the reason I play is the people I play with, not your "new features".
Also, just unsubscribed one of my accounts. That's my vote right there.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Seishi Maru
Organization for Nuclear Research
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:58:00 -
[945]
First I registered my 3 email addresses to vote against CCP. Then I decided that that was not enough. And I self invited myself to other 12 gmail accounts. All voting against CCP.
Hope that shed some new light CCP on your "there is no evidence that developing the current features brings better results than adding new features".
CCP You seeded wind... now ..gather the storm.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:22:00 -
[946]
There's a phrase from SHC I like...
Something like, "I love EVE, but it is not an unconditional love" - right now, y'all are sleeping on my couch.
Selective Pressure is recruiting. |
Unfamed II
NPC Corporation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:27:00 -
[947]
Edited by: Unfamed II on 30/07/2010 01:27:19 Tried to vote but there is some error about SPATIAL DISTORTION going on. Sorry. -b |
Borntorule
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:41:00 -
[948]
.... maybe in 18 months CCP.
After you've finished that Eve themed FPS and the scifi version of Second Life aka Incarna and do some work on the actual game.
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:51:00 -
[949]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Do NOT attack CCP Devs here. You do not know CCP Manifest, he could be the best employee there, you are out of line, and should delete/or apologize.
Apollo
Zymurgist, Manifest, or any other CCP employee lurking these forums all represent the best interests of CCP because they only do as they're paid to do. People are sending CCP a message, even if that means being cruel or harsh to any individual employee who wants to test the motivation of their anger.
I personally do not blame ANY of these individuals for any of the mishaps in EVE. But then again, they're only being paid to do what they're told - how bad could that possibly be, right?
I mean it's not like they're promoting a broken game so they can get votes for an online game award. I mean, even if they were there's nothing wrong with that, right??
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The Pharcyde
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:55:00 -
[950]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources "Haha you zany playerbase with your killmails and witty comments. We(ccp) read this thread and we assure you we are paying attention."
**** you CCP. What we want are apologies and proof that you don't just read but comprehend and make changes to satiate your ****ed off playerbase.
Or you can keep believing we are simple a vocal minority that does not represent the opinions of the masses and give us features we have little desire for.
Try posting this as BobFromMarketing and you might actually get their attention.
I have never pulled the "OMG I QUIT" card over various drama because I know that you guys have heard it so many times you don't believe it anymore, but I can't post this on my main as:
Login failed. Possible reasons can be: Invalid username / password Account is expired or banned Incorrect character name entered
Maybe I'll check back in at a later time when/if you manage to get your heads far enough up your asses to see daylight again.
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HarshMistress
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:08:00 -
[951]
Quote: 'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for.
No 1 Priority http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:16:00 -
[952]
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i guess to their credit ccp have kept this thread open and still stickied lol
Maybe the delete thread button is broken, and they don't have any web developers free to fix it.
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SovietShield
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:17:00 -
[953]
voted for c.. oh wait soz thought it was 2005
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Annie Pierce
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:26:00 -
[954]
You're joking, right?
Lag was waaay more manageable 8 months ago, yet you guys have somehow managed to break it again.
And now you're paying the price:
http://kotaku.com/5599803/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix
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Astronage
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:30:00 -
[955]
bad mojo CCP
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RD Hooker
Space Explorations and Excavations Galactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:43:00 -
[956]
I think it's worth noting players from almost every major powerbloc in EVE have set aside trolling/flaming each other and are posting somewhat constructively in this threadnaught. I can't even remember the last time this happened. CCP has united the player-base in one common goal... just not the one they were hoping for. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida |
Lexa HeIIfury
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:46:00 -
[957]
yeah no
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:50:00 -
[958]
Forget fleet battles being too laggy, what about it taking 20 seconds to launch drones, one coming out every one to two seconds, and laser crystal changes taking similar lengths of time. This isnt in a crowded system, or in an area where large scale battles were being conducted, infact their were only 3 users in local, and only two actually being active. (Providence area)
All we want is for you to fix the lag so the game is actually playable, I'm not risking millions worth of ship, to have it explode due to an error caused by lag to be told by CCP that its not their fault, 'sorry you will not get your ship/fittings back, but please feel free to continue to pay for the game, oh and while you are at it, vote for eve'
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:02:00 -
[959]
Edited by: Wasted Skillpoints on 30/07/2010 04:02:25 Please fire or reassign everyone that is working on Dust/Incarna please. Fire most of the tards who run your crappy ship and hire competent people please. P.S. rollback everything a couple patches... EVERYTHING!!
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Kubikiri Basara
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:38:00 -
[960]
Voted for EVE best game ever
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Supai Arkasi
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:51:00 -
[961]
Edited by: Supai Arkasi on 30/07/2010 04:54:19
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Yalson
Caldari Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:59:00 -
[962]
That's... a rather bold request given the current state of the game. Clearly someone thought that one through...
How about no?
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The Pharcyde
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:09:00 -
[963]
Originally by: Hulkageddon Jackpot
Originally by: Master Akira
from tfa
Originally by: CCP PR 'CCP has invested significant time and resources throughout EVE's history on increasing the performance of fleet fights. We've always had a team of developers devoted to improving our technology and in recent years we made exponential headway through massive server upgrades and initiatives like "Stackless IO".
'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for.
'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
Lol. So NOW it's your "number 1 priority" and the team dedicated to it has "carte blanche"? And since when is that, because the CSM minutes don't seem to reflect that. Zulu's attempt at damage control and all the technical posts by Explorer and others merely said "yes we are dealing with it".
Now this triple ****storm happens, and suddenly lag is your "number 1 priority"?
Heh.
You know who writes that right? CCP Quell does. And do you know who CCP Quell works for?
PRC Social Media.
PRC Social Media are an outsourcing company.
PRC Social Media http://www.prcnet.com/Social-Media-Solutions.aspx do all sorts of useful things!
* Listen in on consumer conversations about your products and services * Stop reputation-damaging crises before they worsen * Stay abreast of your customersÆ needs and concerns * Strengthen customer relationships and build brand loyalty * Enhance your online visibilityAnalytics
This really needs to be re-quoted with a working link.
http://www.prcnet.com/Social-Media-Solutions.aspx
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:27:00 -
[964]
I would like this book on chuztpah. Also, I would like you to pay for it. ------------------------------------------------
Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain! |
TheZealot 0OOO0
There's Something About Zealots...
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:33:00 -
[965]
Edited by: TheZealot 0OOO0 on 30/07/2010 05:34:15 "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better then new features"
Your account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 8/13/2010 1:43:42 AM
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:54:00 -
[966]
"CCP Zymurgist asked straight out in the forums, "You can't commit to voting for us? As a show of goodwill, to demonstrate that CCP can make a difference and to aid in our credibility in that regard?"
The answer was no. Said with nods of sympathy and understanding, but still no."
(to paraphrase Mynxee).
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:22:00 -
[967]
2 years ago you would have had my vote in a heartbeat.
However at this moment I find this amusing.......after the last year of and continution of complete tombulsh!ttery (I just made that up pretty neat huh?), you ask for us to vote for you? That is like the prime minister coming to my house, raping my woman, ****ting in my cornflakes and then saying: "Hey remember to vote for me in this election douche bag!"
I realize it is not the DEV's who call the shots for the most part so do not take this personally as I know *SOME* of you are trying to fix things, however; whoever *IS* calling the shots needs to get his head out of his ass.
To be perfectly blunt and accurately reflect my current disgust and opinion of CCP as a whole:
Go F*ck yourself.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:31:00 -
[968]
I can't find the option for CCPGAMES flagship product World of Darkness a.k.a. Pedo-online.
Have they forgotten that their core business is a game with no subscribers?
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Vasentic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:38:00 -
[969]
Oh dang.
I tried to vote for CCP but when I clicked I got a black screen. I came back an hour later to see my computer was a smoldering pile of crap.
I called the insurance company and asked for a reimbursement but they said "Their logs show nothing" And that "We maintain a strict policy on reimbursement. We can not reimburse you for the loss of your PC because then we would have to reimburse ALL PC owners and it would remove any consequences of using the PC.
We are truly sorry for your loss and understand your feelings on the matter but the answer is still no. We may look at fixing the bug so that your PC does not turn into a smoldering pile of crap in 18-24 months. Until then you will have to constantly buy new PC's as each of them continue to to black screen and melt because we are incompetant.
Now **** off!"
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Lord Saradomin
Gallente Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:43:00 -
[970]
Tbh 9 Months ago I would have voted for EVE. But with the introduction of Dominion you shot yourselves in the foot as this thread shows.
Apocrypha was excellent, you could jump in 250+ people in to 250+ people and still have a fight.
At the moment you can't even jump in 70 to an empty system without waiting a minute or two to load.
On top of the Sov Changes(which were meant to be on-going improvement wise) and PI rubbish, I can't see how EVE has improved in the past year. Unlike previous expansions/years.
It's a shame, but I live in hope for December.
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:47:00 -
[971]
Looks like CCP has shot themselves in the foot with this thread. The arrogance of a large company is starting to show...
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Skeltem
Amarr Free Space Initiative
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:18:00 -
[972]
Three words: El Oh El
You can't be serious, CCP.
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:21:00 -
[973]
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Perfect.
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Neyem Praetorius
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:21:00 -
[974]
So I guess what we are learning from this topic is that ignoring crippling bugs then telling players to go f*** themselves can cause bad feelings. Who would have guessed?
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:34:00 -
[975]
Originally by: Aerilis
Originally by: Tobruk CCP I'm getting all the people i know into groups "teams" so we can figure out how to vote for you
here is how I am dividing our efforts:
First off, New Internet (i call it incarnet)
(9 teams, approximately 70 voters)
Development of a brand new internet is something that we have committed to for multiple reasons, but the most prominent one is that it has nothing to do with what you want out of us (votes).
To achieve our goal of voting for you we must re-invent the internet. When we talk to people who like the concept of voting games but aren't attracted to voting for eve, it becomes obvious that there is a need gap that can best be filled by completely alienating the current voting block int he hopes of gaining a new one that may/may not be interested.
Console Voting
(1 team, approximately 7 voters)
Weære also committed to producing and launching a way to vote on a gaming console. What weære doing is unheard of in the gaming industry, because no other gaming company is dumb enough to bet their financial security on a platform that is rapidly becoming antiquated. Let that sink in for a minute. CCP is the first company in the world to do something like this. First. Ever.
Voting
(3 teams, approximately 22 voters)
Currently, the plan is to have a few people actually vote unfortunately they will be completely incapable of performing the voting function... Sorry.
The others!
(4 teams, approximately 15 voters)
these people get us Pizza and Stuff
Hope this makes it clear exactly what my priority is with regards to voting for your game and makes it clear how much i value you as a business.
This needs to be quoted on every page
Agreed, requoting for those who missed it.
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:47:00 -
[976]
I tried to vote. Honestly I did. But 30 other people all tried to vote at the same time and the node crashed.
Ohh dear.
Fix it. Fix it NOW.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:52:00 -
[977]
I am afraid that I must stand behind the people saying you need to fix your game. Don't get me wrong, I love EVE but it is horribly broken! No vote for you.
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Deliora May
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:53:00 -
[978]
To summon it up: CCP, you should remap your ressources from new feature development into bug fixing mechanics. You have one remap remaining and there is no need to wait 18 months!
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TheLightGuy
Interdimensional Sun Systems
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:54:00 -
[979]
Originally by: RogueMind
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257782 NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.
But...... http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
Perhaps something changed?
Yeah, CCP's PR department had to go clothes shopping.
They've started lining their chairs with trash bags.
They diversified their business into fertilizers.
It just got a lot smellier in their office.
Or to put it in simpler language:
They **** their pants.
(P.S. IncarniLOL is still their main priority. Lag won't get fixed until they actually start hemorrhaging subscribers to World of Tanks.)
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Cycotic Maniac
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Posted - 2010.07.30 08:25:00 -
[980]
Originally by: Vasentic Oh dang.
I tried to vote for CCP but when I clicked I got a black screen. I came back an hour later to see my computer was a smoldering pile of crap.
I called the insurance company and asked for a reimbursement but they said "Their logs show nothing" And that "We maintain a strict policy on reimbursement. We can not reimburse you for the loss of your PC because then we would have to reimburse ALL PC owners and it would remove any consequences of using the PC.
We are truly sorry for your loss and understand your feelings on the matter but the answer is still no. We may look at fixing the bug so that your PC does not turn into a smoldering pile of crap in 18-24 months. Until then you will have to constantly buy new PC's as each of them continue to to black screen and melt because we are incompetant.
Now **** off!"
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Robdon
Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2010.07.30 08:41:00 -
[981]
Originally by: Djavo
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Perfect.
Indeed, well written.
If only CCP would just read (and understand) this 1 post.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 08:59:00 -
[982]
Originally by: Robdon
Originally by: Djavo
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Perfect.
Indeed, well written.
If only CCP would just read (and understand) this 1 post.
This can't be quoted enough
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Gribzor
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:00:00 -
[983]
Was reading the page on Social Media Solutions. A nice quote from the page:
Quote: PRC engages with customers on your behalf to address service issues, troubleshoot, and thank them for feedback.
Lolz.. "and thank them for feedback"
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:04:00 -
[984]
Originally by: Gribzor Was reading the page on Social Media Solutions. A nice quote from the page:
Quote: PRC engages with customers on your behalf to address service issues, troubleshoot, and thank them for feedback.
Lolz.. "and thank them for feedback"
Only CCP would react to negative customer feedback by hiring a PR firm rather than by addressing customer concerns.
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Kjar Achran
Minmatar Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:07:00 -
[985]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: Robdon
Originally by: Djavo
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
Perfect.
Indeed, well written.
If only CCP would just read (and understand) this 1 post.
This can't be quoted enough
seriously CCP, save this post. Put it on projection at the next meeting and let everyone at the meeting bloody read this...
No to shinies, yes to fixing things.
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Erdiere
Minmatar Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:23:00 -
[986]
Yeah, sure, I won't vote for EvE either.
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Ghola Tleilaxu
Minmatar Frustrated Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:44:00 -
[987]
Edited by: Ghola Tleilaxu on 30/07/2010 09:44:19
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
QFT
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Jardos
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:48:00 -
[988]
Originally by: Aryth I am sure many of us, including CCP employees have played many an MMO and watched them slowly die or implode suddenly. CCP in the past has avoided many of the common misteps other MMO's have made for one very large reason, in GENERAL, they have listened to the playerbase.
CCP, if you have ever watched other MMO's tank, you should see the warning signs here. Consider this thread the canary in the coal mine. You see this happen to all MMO's at some point, the entire vocal playerbase turning on you. Once this starts, its usually the sign of a MMO in serious trouble. Most times in the past SOE/UO etc the devs ignore the players, censor the forums, and keep on with their "vision". You probably know how that usually ends.
My 2 cents on how to fix this.
First, You really need to focus on bug fixing and stop churning out new features that everyone hates or are incomplete/don't work right. PI is a shining example of a totally crappy system. You REALLY had a guy on EVE TV trumpeting how he was a dev on that interface? REALLY? Could you have made PI suck any more than it does? You figured the best course of action to limit risk vs reward in a system was to make it a massive clickfest eh. Great game design there guys. Dont' even get me started on dust being the gating factor. This isn't a troll, I simply cannot fathom how anyone thought this was a good idea. People gave feedback in the test forum saying how much it sucked, but you did it anyway. Sov update, haha, You broke 0.0 warfare more than it already was. Again, I just can't see how you thought that system was gonna be a good one. WTG overpowering SC's also. Welcome to supercapital online in the form of SC's now instead of Titans. We could make a laundry list here of broken things but you get the idea. We dont' need more shinys, we need the stuff we have to be working/fun.
Second, and I know post T20 this is hard and all, but your Devs really need to play in 0.0 alliances or in another area that participates in large fleet warfare. Hey Stoffer, for the love of god, talk some sense into them. Would the real pvpers (at ccp) please stand up! You cannot fix what you don't understand, and it is pretty clear CCP does not understand fleet warfare. I heard recently someone had to demonstrate the firing in lag trick to them. That is plain sad.
Third, Use the CSM more effectively. You would think the complete breakdown in communication that was the most recent meeting might have been a warning sign. Here is why the CSM will always be smarter than you. Because it's not their baby. The CSM can see the ugly baby when it appears, you as people that work at CCP cannot because its your baby. Take it as constructive criticism and just work on the complaints. If you did that with even half the gusto you threw at all this new content you seem to think will suck in new players, you would never need to worry about an angry playerbase.
While I usually hate the "Eve is dying" ....This.
This thread is only a small percentage of people who are ****ed off with the direction eve has taken since dominion. Remember that when some beancounter says that most players are happy with eve.
And take this nugget for what its worth.
If you are content solely catering to the people who are happy with eve-online performance today, then this is not the eve-online that I would like to play.
And regarding the voting, do CCP realy think they deserve it this year.
Go Conan.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:52:00 -
[989]
Fix your damn game first. We can talk again next year. If EVE still exists by then.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 09:55:00 -
[990]
I voted for EVE, but only because the rest of the games are utter garbage. EVE Online is the best of the garbage. Fix lag and you might actually be the best of more than just the garbage.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:02:00 -
[991]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr I voted for EVE, but only because the rest of the games are utter garbage. EVE Online is the best of the garbage. Fix lag and you might actually be the best of more than just the garbage.
Then you obviously haven't played the other games on the list.
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Jardos
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:03:00 -
[992]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr I voted for EVE, but only because the rest of the games are utter garbage. EVE Online is the best of the garbage. Fix lag and you might actually be the best of more than just the garbage.
CCP: Eve-Online. Winner 2010 European best of the worst award.
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Lubomir Penev
TTSP.x.X.x.RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:07:00 -
[993]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas
Only CCP would react to negative customer feedback by hiring a PR firm rather than by addressing customer concerns.
Nah many company go for the cheapest short term solution (right till they tank). They are dead set on not altering their 18 months timeline, so hiring PR drones on a contract basis is much more in line with that plan.
Can't wait till they start astroturfing, then mess up and get exposed.
Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended8/9/2010← the missing space is original CCP material |
TheDanish Beast
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:11:00 -
[994]
Edited by: TheDanish Beast on 30/07/2010 10:11:09 No way I would vote for a game I cant play propper... Fix it, and then you might ask us for this...
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Damien Smith
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:14:00 -
[995]
I was going to think of a witty comment to post here but there's just no point.
My two accounts are cancelled and will not be getting resubbed when they expire. Even though I'm not a 0.0 fleet fight participant and have yet to experience the horrendous lag, CCP's complete lack of commitment to fix the glaring errors both old and new, has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.
The CSM debacle was the final straw.
gg ccp. nice knowing you.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:34:00 -
[996]
Why should I?
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Riley Moore
Obscurus Research
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:36:00 -
[997]
Maybe this is CCP's plan of getting rid of a part of the subscribers base because it's growing do large the EVE cluster cant handle it!
They might want you to quit, they'd be crazy enough to do such a thing oO
------- Obscuras Blueprints Store
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Karunel
Princeps Corp Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:36:00 -
[998]
CCP using PR companies to avoid addresing the concerns of their (very loyal) fanbase? Where's the CCP that used to hang on IRC channels and have a laugh?
You may not remember it now, maybe most of your employees weren't even here back then but when you released that ****ty POS that was EVE on release only the loyalty of your fanbase and their willingless to believe in your vision allowed you to go on until the game got decent (and in case you don't remember you barely had any marketing budget, it was US who by word of mouth managed to get people to play EVE).
You may think you're beyond that now and that you can stuff your middle finger up our arse but remember that at the end of the day EVE is driven by the community, the headlines making thousands of people sign up are usually consequence of player actions and the very core of the economy is driven by demand by your most loyal and hardcore players, the 0.0 alliances.
It's still your boat but it may be one we long time fans may not be willing to ride any more and trust me it's your best hands on deck you'll be losing when we go.
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:40:00 -
[999]
Lol
Ill Vote in 18 months if im still here.
Fix your broken game ffs
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Keen Fallsword
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:41:00 -
[1000]
haha :) lol
CCP you are like a child in the fog. No i will not vote for you. Take care about your game first. Coz you are walking on the edge. You are not WOW and your players base is very limited.
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Damien Smith
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:42:00 -
[1001]
Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
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Spec 593357629
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:44:00 -
[1002]
yay giving away more free statistics, just for you CCP
note to self buy Battlefield bad company 2,
I used to remember getting a thrill doing something in this game...............
I just can't remember for the life of me what it was................
maybe it was all just a dream...............
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:44:00 -
[1003]
Originally by: Damien Smith Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:54:00 -
[1004]
Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 30/07/2010 10:55:09
Quote: "We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players." ùJohn Smedley, president of Sony Online Entertainment
Should think on this **** CCP. A successful MMO can kill itself by making ****ty choices and ignoring your players.
Originally by: MistressDoom
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
Go get one here They are free and damn near immediate
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:54:00 -
[1005]
1000 posts now ccp, id guess maybe 10 is supporting you.
get the picture??
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:00:00 -
[1006]
Accounts cancelled. I didn't even have to wait till september 1st! See you in 18 months if i don't find an mmo that actually has good developers who arent completely inept first.
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wiztecia
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:06:00 -
[1007]
Originally by: MistressDoom
Originally by: Damien Smith Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
Already rolling in my Tiger o7
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:08:00 -
[1008]
Originally by: wiztecia
Originally by: MistressDoom
Originally by: Damien Smith Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
Already rolling in my Tiger o7
Im rocking a Leopard, KV, VKnumbershere, PnzJager IV, Panzer IV, Panzer III currently.
**** owns.
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pmota
Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:09:00 -
[1009]
oh thx for letting us know where to vote CCP. Voted for someone else, now go back to work and fix our game will you ? You may not realize but a LOT of ppl are waiting for a couple of single shard games that have just entered closed beta to move from Eve - or to at least force you to fix bugs before you create new ones and ressurect old ones.
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wiztecia
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:12:00 -
[1010]
Awesome idea, cancel eve accounts and buy gold for world of tanks when it gets out of beta.
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Keen Fallsword
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:16:00 -
[1011]
CCP Zymurgist you will be fired ? for this post ? :(
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MistressDoom
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:21:00 -
[1012]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Go get one here They are free and damn near immediate
Thank you!
I got my invite and downloading the client now. That was quick.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:24:00 -
[1013]
Originally by: CCP Manifest ...
I am well aware of the passion behind all the posts here, even though many of them utilize quite clever humor as a tactic for relaying disatisfaction (killmail one).
I was not being sarcastic or trying to be humorous in return. Just jumping in to make sure you know that CCPers read these threads and that we pass them along to other people in CCP to make sure they know about them as well.
It's good to know that CCP are reading this thread. It will be MUCH better to know that CCP are doing something about the customer dissatisfaction that is evident here by fixing the core game and postponing all the ridiculous gimmicks you've got lined up for the next two years.
Because, at the current rate, with customers leaving you in droves and the bad press increasing weekly, I don't think CCP will be around in 18 months time to be able to fix anything then.
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Marcus Insanus
Minmatar the muppets Muppets Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:29:00 -
[1014]
To show my displeasure with the way CCP is going. Lag, Simcity games, click^x.
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:33:00 -
[1015]
Edited by: Optical Illusion on 30/07/2010 11:33:48
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: wiztecia
Originally by: MistressDoom
Originally by: Damien Smith Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
Already rolling in my Tiger o7
Im rocking a Leopard, KV, VKnumbershere, PnzJager IV, Panzer IV, Panzer III currently.
**** owns.
Rolling Tiger atm, it sucks! Will be pulling out in a shiney new KingTiger later tonight though :)
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V955
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:43:00 -
[1016]
I tried i really did but i could'nt bring myself to vote for you.
Why does the forum insist on showing my alt as main.
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Moebbius
Caldari COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:44:00 -
[1017]
Will not vote, fix the game first
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.30 11:48:00 -
[1018]
Originally by: Drakkmari ....
HTFU and let the devs do their job, or GTFO of the best game in existence, you filthy little maggots!
WTF, people?!?!
I don't pay for HTFU. I pay for Eve Online.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar TAKEN. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:05:00 -
[1019]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: wiztecia
Originally by: MistressDoom
Originally by: Damien Smith Well, I now have my World of Tanks beta code.
o/
Awesome, still waiting on mine.
Already rolling in my Tiger o7
Im rocking a Leopard, KV, VKnumbershere, PnzJager IV, Panzer IV, Panzer III currently.
**** owns.
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
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Liranan
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:23:00 -
[1020]
Quote: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
How can we vote for EVE when then data doesn't support us voting for existing features?
Quote: The discussion focused on introducing new features versus improving existing ones. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features.
In 18 months the playerbase will probably vote for EVE.
I'm glad CCP and I love the same words I do: maybe, probably, possibly and no. Farjung is my God
You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link. |
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Spec 593357629
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:30:00 -
[1021]
Infinity
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45thtiger 0109
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:40:00 -
[1022]
Hey EVE communinity
1. As i have remembered when Apocrypha expansion we had no lag at all.
I have been up in the north fighting in large fleet fights.
When Dominion came out with the new fleet option it then started to lag badly.
2. Now with Tyrannis the lag issue have gotten allot worse not better.
What i can see here that in Apocrypha under the old join fleet system was allot more stable than with the new one when the Dominion Expansion was released.
CCP you need to go two step back to the Apocrypha expansion and have a look at the code and have a look at the new code to findout the differance between the two.
I would recommend CCP that you put the old fleet style window back in Tyrannis and run that for awhile to work around the problem.It seems the new fleet style Join fleet window might have bugs or using to much memory or the code might need working on.
I have noticed when i join in large fleet fights is really bad and when i leave the fleet the lag is of a lesser value.
I hope this will fix things.
Regards From 45thtiger 0109
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Ture Vidar
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:45:00 -
[1023]
Until this thread, I hadn't read the CSM5 minutes or the 18 month plan devblog. Thanks for opening my eyes, Zymurgist!
Two accounts unsubbed.
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:51:00 -
[1024]
Originally by: Liranan Edited by: Liranan on 30/07/2010 12:36:17
Quote: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
How can we vote for EVE when then data doesn't support us voting for existing features?
I'd like to know where they got that data from when their logs never show anything.
Hell, any decent sysadmin knows their "our logs show nothing" line is either a lie or an admission of gross negligence. The servers I handle are nowhere near as complex as TQ, of course, but one thing that one can't say about a Windows server is that there are no logs. There are logs for EVERYTHING, even pure minutia.
Their "study" that shows that their "data" doesn't support the assertion that we want our game to actually work right more than we want more non working stuff to be added comes from the same self-serving insular "groupthink" mentality that led, for example, SOE to think the NGE was a fantastic idea and that they'd be able to replace their existing player base who loved the game as it was with a vast NEW customer base that liked their broken dumbed down version. If they actually have data that suggests that, any audit of what led to it would probably show that they asked the wrong people the wrong questions.
Most people overlook the one innovation that made Wow (much as I hate it and games like it) a success: Polish.
WOW was the first MMO ever to launch that was complete and polished in terms of content and core systems, at a time when everyone released their MMO games in an incomplete and buggy state. That was the only thing new and different they did, their game was (and is) nothing more than a clone of other fantasy RPG MMOs that had come before them, such as Everquest, the only difference being that WOW actually WORKED when it was released.
Consider that data, CCP, before proclaiming that your customers want new and broken stuff more than we want polish. WOW has, what 14 million, EVE has 300,000. If it were true that people wanted new stuff and could care less if game systems worked or not it'd be the other way around (and I know I am oversimplifying) and WOW would have 300,000 while EVE would have millions.
Hell, if this theory was true, how come the Star Wars NGE game is on the verge of closing, probably kept on life support only until TOR releases, instead of a huge runaway success?
Simply put, people don't want to pay for CRAP, we want our games to have core systems that work. We should be able to concentrate on fighting reds in local, not fighting the GAME at the same time!
As I said earlier in this topic, the reason why people are ****ed off for real this time is that we KNOW that CCP can achieve even regular nodes that can handle 1,000+ fighting in system, in laggy but functional conditions BECAUSE WE HAD THIS A YEAR AGO!
We know it CAN be done because it HAS been done. What is unacceptable is that CCP has clearly not maintained the game code in a responsible manner and has allowed subsequent upgrades to degrade the core game systems without bothering to correct it.
That style of software development would get you fired anywhere except at a MMO publisher it seems.
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wizzard66
Gallente Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:57:00 -
[1025]
Edited by: wizzard66 on 30/07/2010 12:57:36 No CCP.
Beg first
Or better.. Take your customers more serious.
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Kaito Kenshin
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:27:00 -
[1026]
The last time I was in a truly epic fleet fight, we got slaughtered as half our fleet jumped the gate and the other half got caught up with 'session change already in progress' or 'traffic advisory.'
The time before that, we just warped away because our modules were lagging too much to accomplish anything at all.
The time before that, it took us nearly ten minutes to take down any given ship that should have gone down in seconds. The killmails reported battleships going down after taking less than 100 damage.
The time before that, our FC and logistics got wiped off the field before any of us could even see what was on the grid.
And the first time, I don't even know what happened. We warped in, there was lot of cursing, and I found myself sitting in my medical clone recieving damage notifications in-station.
After over a year playing this game, how many awesome fleet fights more than 50 vs. 50 went down without techincal issues ruining the fun and affecting the outcome? Not a single friggin' one. And when players petitioned their losses after these clusterfraks, one out of ten would get apolegetically reimbursed while the rest would get the "our logs show nothing, buzz off" response. One GM even told me that the "unpredictable nature" of combat in EVE is one of the risks that make PVP what it is. Seriously?
Sorry, but no vote for you. You'll just have to be happy with my money and entirely too much of my daily life. Let's fill the stars with love! |
lord war
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:29:00 -
[1027]
Edited by: lord war on 30/07/2010 13:31:07 **** off and fix the game
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Kaar
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:32:00 -
[1028]
Originally by: Optical Illusion
Rolling Tiger atm, it sucks! Will be pulling out in a shiney new KingTiger later tonight though :)
dude stop wasting premium time with poasting.
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Xandor M
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:38:00 -
[1029]
lol no. Also i forwarded this thread to a few news agencies. Just figured they'd find some way to get more attention.
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Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:41:00 -
[1030]
10 kills with bison in recruit games fun
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Grimster
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:44:00 -
[1031]
Originally by: Fishslapper I logged into the website to cast my vote but 20 mins later I still have a blackscreen...
I'm a HUGE fanboy of Eve - but frankly - fix the lag and you'll get my vote. Until then, get stuffed...
^^ This tbh.
_______________________________
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:45:00 -
[1032]
Now Here is an idea CCP, I know its fairly obvious, but what the hell. If you want to know what your playerbase wants...... ***KING ASK US, SEND US ALL AN EMAIL QUESTIONAIRE. It is rather obvious, no need for emloying some company when you can ask us directly, in fact it shows that you already know what we want but are unwilling to provide it so are purposely ignoring us. My 2 subscriptions are up soon, I have my world of tanks beta code, I wont be resubbing unless this gets fixed now.
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drMile Kitic
Gallente WEPRA CORP
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:46:00 -
[1033]
LOL, u sux.
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Comstr
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:58:00 -
[1034]
Voted for Arma II. Arma II was buggy, unfinished and unplayable for 3 of the missions. I hope the expansion fixed the issues.
Change your direction CCP.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.07.30 13:59:00 -
[1035]
Originally by: Jack Gilligan ...
Simply put, people don't want to pay for CRAP, we want our games to have core systems that work. We should be able to concentrate on fighting reds in local, not fighting the GAME at the same time!
As I said earlier in this topic, the reason why people are ****ed off for real this time is that we KNOW that CCP can achieve even regular nodes that can handle 1,000+ fighting in system, in laggy but functional conditions BECAUSE WE HAD THIS A YEAR AGO!
We know it CAN be done because it HAS been done. What is unacceptable is that CCP has clearly not maintained the game code in a responsible manner and has allowed subsequent upgrades to degrade the core game systems without bothering to correct it. ...
Can't emphasize this enough.
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Cycotic Maniac
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:00:00 -
[1036]
Its funny how people who mostly hate each other (ingame) are united this strong, that must ring some bells.
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Eduardo'o
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:06:00 -
[1037]
my question: Now CCP has reacted in the press on the articles, will they have the balls to address us players directly
And please dont say that fixing lag will cause even bigger fights: give us at least the ability to have 500 vs 500 again, I have not had a fun fight in a year, even 20 vs 20 is often hard to play, its unpredictable, i am getting bored
Please dont sat you put a lot in R&D and that show commitment: since you put it in the wrong efforts, not in fixing lag
Please just fix the lag, its been going on for WAY to long Please make this the best game ever again Please instead of asking players to vote for the awards, make the players happy so that they vote before you ask them
Please please please
Ed
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Alupigus1
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:10:00 -
[1038]
Greed, that's all about, Eve it's a damn business after all.
Look, new customers wanting to pvp means more lag, more problems. You want more subscribers but you don't want them to pvp much, right? At least not in null sec.. here comes shiny planets, useless PI stuff, new features that nobody needs or wants, incoming Incarna, Dust and so on. You want to pvp? Well, go unload your silos first and notice the planet beautiful graphic, have a drink at the NOL bar, chat a while, play with your avatar a little.
Sov warfare is the last thing they want you to do because it's causing only problems for them.. who cares about bugged timers, insta sov and $hit like that if you never notice them? Plus, there is a limit on how many people can fight on a grid (with decent lag), adding 100 people to that limit is 10 times more demanding in terms of resources than the whole PI stuff. Adding another 100? LOL, forget about it.
Casual pvp? hell yeah and fnck sov warfare because right there is the source of all problems and whines.
Eve is becoming slowly but surely exactly what i hate more, a shiny mindless game, an expensive chat. GO Hillmar GO, i hope Eve hits 1 million subscribers asap, when that happens I won't be one of them.
Voting for Eve? Neah... Now go empty your silos.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:15:00 -
[1039]
Yup, not voting, (all tho i am considering voting with my cash atm and not resubbing).
Played since beta, and never been more annoyed with server performance.
"new features, new features new features", you cant even fix frigging rockets (and promised to do so in 09), now the servers performing terribly as well.
i like space ships, not farmville, not second life.
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:20:00 -
[1040]
In these few years I have been playing Eve, I had never seen a thread where someone said "I'm leaving Eve" without getting 10 replies with "can I have your stuff???". But this thread has more than 1000 responses in 3 days, many of people cancelling... and no people is laughing except a couple of well identified CCP shills.
Last week, you had a 60+ page threadnought, and even before that, you had a 2000+ "supported" thread in the assembly hall asking nicely about this: Lag, unfinished features, crippling bugs, UI, etc.
So CCP, I have a question you might have missed before:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW
And please, spare us the damage control
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Avious Tylepthine
Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:24:00 -
[1041]
Edited by: Avious Tylepthine on 30/07/2010 14:25:29 I was going to vote but then my world of tanks round started.
Russian heavies ftw ~ 220mm frontal sloped
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:30:00 -
[1042]
I'm still downloading world of tanks :( taking another 35mins, is it any faster D/L as torrent?
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:30:00 -
[1043]
Yeah a straight answer so the player base can make its choice.
1. If you realy take fixing lag as No1 priority and put everything else on the back burner or
2. You have no intention on fixing lag soon and we will mot prob see a fix in 18 months along with a whole host of other broken features you will introduce.
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Avious Tylepthine
Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:32:00 -
[1044]
Edited by: Avious Tylepthine on 30/07/2010 14:32:53
Originally by: Ham2000 I'm still downloading world of tanks :( taking another 35mins, is it any faster D/L as torrent?
Sorry but i can offer some advice while you wait.
German Tank destroyers > Russian Ones German heavies = more armor but slower Russian arty ftw For its tier level the panzer 4 is amazing.
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Raceleader
Minmatar Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:33:00 -
[1045]
Sorry CCP, you won't have my vote.
Fix your game first
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:42:00 -
[1046]
WTH is with the 'only one post every five minutes' in the eve forums?
Anyhoo, D/L completes in 10 min, have 2 days left on my alt, and 18 on my main, more than enough time to move out of 0.0 and dock up till the lag is fixed :)
Thanks CCP, for your timely replies, oh wait there havent been any, you've had a couple of days you should have had a meeting or two about the outcry and made a public statement to the eve community not ignore us and make statements to others.
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Sam Twitch
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:02:00 -
[1047]
lag can be fun. its quite hillarious when you¦re in a fleetfight and the only thing you see is the guy that scoops your corpse while you still think you are flying an internet spaceship. but serious...please fix your game back to a playable level. 1st sub runs out soonish, 2nd will follow. come back with advertisment, when i don¦t have to seek my excitement in funny lag incidents. cheers sam |
alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:07:00 -
[1048]
Can I haz all your stuffz so when I leave I can lol!
And ya sorry ccp I am currently voting on new games, however I will get around to you in 18 months. +/- one month of lag time to get to the site, load it, sign up, cast vote.
Eve is the only game I play but I just found out their is stuffz outside the front door !!!
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:07:00 -
[1049]
I love watching everyone bluff that they are letting their subscriptions expire. You and CCP both know that you're not going to stop playing. They have you by the balls.
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Catherine Frasier
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:09:00 -
[1050]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
It is, so I did (once for every email address I have.)
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Cepher
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:09:00 -
[1051]
no game improvement, not listening to players, not listening to CSM, not paying attention to petitions, not fixing known and multiple reported bugs etc = no cookies for you, only bad publicity.
with publishing your 18 month schedule you've changed from "just" having a broken game to accepting that and further actively ruin it completely. c'mon ccp, give us 3D avatars and let us become space station barkeepers! the about 100 K subscribers you'll have 2012 will be freakin out!
I myself brought 4 peeps I know to playing eve and each has 1 subscription at least. THIS is how EvE is growing, not your effin' banners on every third page. EvE grows because you have (had) hundred thousands active subscribers doing publicity in their closer environment, investing tons of money and effort in this very game, making fanmovies etc.. realise that you've given the frame/ platform, but what makes this game so great are the people playing it and interacting with each other. if you try to "copulate" us over you now see what happens. we are your bosses, b!tches.
35 page tl;dr:
quid pro quo, ccp.
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emotua
Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:31:00 -
[1052]
Will vote when :
I load the grid, and not stare at the screen, until I get poded without loosing my clone!, but loosing my implants and show up in a station I never even set foot in...
Will vote when :
My ship and its modules react in battle not spin endlessly and do nothing.
Will vote when :
When something shows up in your logs.
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Tyton Rynite
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:35:00 -
[1053]
I, I can't play my, can't play my yeah, yo I can't play my I, I can't play my game this way, continuly get lag instead of runnin 'round, shootin' ships down it's a new day gotta do it small just to jump show no improvement can't play that way you hold my check can't play that way without my ship on grid, can't play that way they do what they like, and we've played that way Our moves calculated through the lens, almost here unsubbing will be the best revenge man, from apocrypha to tyrannis (whut up, whut up?!) some can't play but everyday it says ("our logs show nothing")
this time I made up my mind this time I'm back on my grind I know there's things in my game that I'ma let go startin tonight (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) I can't play my, I, I can't play my I can't play my game this way (can't play my, I, I can't play my) this way (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) this way, I can't play my, I, I can't play my I can't play my game this way
Go 'head, flip a coin so the game can start believe I know the drama kid name the part I learnt before the hot flame came the spark it's like before the node crash came the lag but ccp will play with yo' game man they playin with yo' ships, ammo, modules and grids man (yeah) that's why tyrannis doesn't bring it like that old apocrypha the better game, then I'm off to Amsterdam to rest up for strengh to deal with this game to deal with these bugs to deal with this lag I dedicate this to apocrypha 2009 showed me how to play, this game
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Cryocasm
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:42:00 -
[1054]
Originally by: Tyton Rynite I, I can't play my, can't play my yeah, yo I can't play my I, I can't play my game this way, continuly get lag instead of runnin 'round, shootin' ships down it's a new day gotta do it small just to jump show no improvement can't play that way you hold my check can't play that way without my ship on grid, can't play that way they do what they like, and we've played that way Our moves calculated through the lens, almost here unsubbing will be the best revenge man, from apocrypha to tyrannis (whut up, whut up?!) some can't play but everyday it says ("our logs show nothing")
this time I made up my mind this time I'm back on my grind I know there's things in my game that I'ma let go startin tonight (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) I can't play my, I, I can't play my I can't play my game this way (can't play my, I, I can't play my) this way (I can't play my, I, I can't play my) this way, I can't play my, I, I can't play my I can't play my game this way
Go 'head, flip a coin so the game can start believe I know the drama kid name the part I learnt before the hot flame came the spark it's like before the node crash came the lag but ccp will play with yo' game man they playin with yo' ships, ammo, modules and grids man (yeah) that's why tyrannis doesn't bring it like that old apocrypha the better game, then I'm off to Amsterdam to rest up for strengh to deal with this game to deal with these bugs to deal with this lag I dedicate this to apocrypha 2009 showed me how to play, this game
<_<
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Phey Onat
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:55:00 -
[1055]
You do not deserve to be rewarded for the current state of EVE warfare, the primary thing you advertise for all new players to be inticed by.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.07.30 16:29:00 -
[1056]
OMG LOL! Another massive egg in the face for CCP.
SKUNK (o)
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Beachura
Two Maidens One Chalice Equillibrium.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 16:56:00 -
[1057]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Originally by: Mica Petrokov
Originally by: iridize My hat goes off to you sir for putting your head above the pa****t, you may get a little abuse aimed at you, but the fact that your the first CCP employee to respond to this thread and acknowledge the players may actually gain you a little respect from the community.
You are well aware that he is also the last CCP employee who will respond to this thread or even be aware of its content, right?
Seriously, the CEO should be reading this, not some flunky that has no ability to do anything about this.
I brought up this specific thread in this morning's EVE marketing meeting, and it will appear in my "EVE press mention roundup" email either later today or tomorrow, which is widely read throughout CCP.
Yeah, we gutta give the guy some credit for this
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oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.07.30 16:57:00 -
[1058]
lets not build up fronts like us and them. its our (player, especially long time) and their (developer) game. somebody up in the management did a decision and that decision was a mistake. it can be repaired maybe. ill keep playing til i see nothing more that keeps me. in the war up north starting april 1 i was in countless battles and there were maybe 10 % in which lag didnt play a role.
in other words: i am making propaganda for the separation of cancel and modify order buttons for more than 5 years now. i could have talked to my wastebasket about it. would have had the same result.
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Tsumei Meyren
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:03:00 -
[1059]
This thread is now so long that I doubt they even read it all, probably just skim through it to preserve their sanity.
But. On the off chance that some of their forum-thrawling employees actually have to read it, I officially offer one unit of Hug to that person, to be claimed at a future fanfest or tourney related event if I end up being associated with either, which i probably will next year! -------------------------------------------------------- Creative Cookie Procuring [Girl.] Are recruiting! |
Vio Geraci
Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:14:00 -
[1060]
Tyrannis did not earn my vote. You can't bank on previous successes in game design to carry you, forever, without anything new that actually improves to the game. Indeed, it often seems like your previous successes have happened despite developer modification, rather than because of it.
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Scout Guy
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:17:00 -
[1061]
Edited by: Scout Guy on 30/07/2010 17:18:25 .
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Sneeze100
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:27:00 -
[1062]
EVE IS DEAD
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:44:00 -
[1063]
Originally by: Harmone Princess I love watching everyone bluff that they are letting their subscriptions expire. You and CCP both know that you're not going to stop playing. They have you by the balls.
Nah, most of my alliance is playing WoT now, and all my ISK is tied up in market operations anyway. If I were to unsub, the only thing I'd lose out on is skillpoints.
I think I'll live.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:54:00 -
[1064]
Originally by: CCP Atlas ... We have added a stop-gap measure in place which keeps nodes from dying during these high stress scenarios and we have some more permanent solutions in the pipes that will be deployed over the next few weeks....
Posted on 2010.02.04 12:03:48
Originally by: CCP Numba Wun PR Agency 'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
Posted on Thursday 29-Jul-2010 4:05 PM
Credibility <------------------------------------------------------------------------> CCP
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:05:00 -
[1065]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: CCP Atlas ... We have added a stop-gap measure in place which keeps nodes from dying during these high stress scenarios and we have some more permanent solutions in the pipes that will be deployed over the next few weeks....
Posted on 2010.02.04 12:03:48
Originally by: CCP Numba Wun PR Agency 'With the help of the EVE community on the test server, we believe we are close to some investigative breakthroughs and will continue to relay any progress via our developer blogs.'
Posted on Thursday 29-Jul-2010 4:05 PM
Credibility <------------------------------------------------------------------------> CCP
CCP could not of been owned harder by this quote.
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Icantseeanythinginthis
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:05:00 -
[1066]
NO!
THE GAME IS BROKEN!
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT A STUPID CONSOLE GAME OR WALKING IN STATIONS! WE WANT THE GAME FIXED FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:11:00 -
[1067]
Originally by: Mica Petrokov Nah, most of my alliance is playing WoT now...
WoT is the new PotBS.
c/d?
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:43:00 -
[1068]
Originally by: Harmone Princess I love watching everyone bluff that they are letting their subscriptions expire. You and CCP both know that you're not going to stop playing. They have you by the balls.
It's true. While I still think there's a hope to play in the future one day, I'll keep training SP, even though my unsub was a bluff. But, I've been waiting on fixes for years now, and in that time
- I've researched candidates and voted on the CSM - I've been active in the assembly hall and given feedback on the forums - I've even gone to fanfest
The subscription unsub is the only avenue left to try and tell CCP - Please fix EVE. Please polish eve.
It's not entirely a bluff... One day I'll have had enough of waiting. And I'm doing my best to tell CCP now, before that line has been crossed.
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Tamirr U'tath
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:46:00 -
[1069]
battleships are obsolete
Tanks are the new BS
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comrade christopher
Minmatar Pink Bunnies
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:07:00 -
[1070]
Originally by: Karunel CCP using PR companies to avoid addresing the concerns of their (very loyal) fanbase? Where's the CCP that used to hang on IRC channels and have a laugh?
You may not remember it now, maybe most of your employees weren't even here back then but when you released that ****ty POS that was EVE on release only the loyalty of your fanbase and their willingless to believe in your vision allowed you to go on until the game got decent (and in case you don't remember you barely had any marketing budget, it was US who by word of mouth managed to get people to play EVE).
You may think you're beyond that now and that you can stuff your middle finger up our arse but remember that at the end of the day EVE is driven by the community, the headlines making thousands of people sign up are usually consequence of player actions and the very core of the economy is driven by demand by your most loyal and hardcore players, the 0.0 alliances.
It's still your boat but it may be one we long time fans may not be willing to ride any more and trust me it's your best hands on deck you'll be losing when we go.
this...
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:12:00 -
[1071]
I don't know if there is anyone more over there that think like me... but... i'm still waiting for an official response to this treathnaught Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:13:00 -
[1072]
EVE-Online is currently in closed beta, if you want to participate it'll cost $14,95 or Ç14,95 a month, but I'm sure they'll fix the lag issue before release.
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Kage Toshimado
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:14:00 -
[1073]
Originally by: Harmone Princess I love watching everyone bluff that they are letting their subscriptions expire. You and CCP both know that you're not going to stop playing. They have you by the balls.
Not a bluff.
Expires: 8/6/2010 8:34:08 PM Remaining Playtime: 7d:1h:22m
My other account expires in even less time. Will I come back? I hope I have the willpower not to honestly. I quit once for about 6 months and didn't miss it during that break. The way the game quality is currently, I'll probably miss it even less.
I'm going to suicide some macks before I go. Have a nice Geddon set up for it too
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Hardo Kaan
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:15:00 -
[1074]
Lag don't kill people. I kill with lag.
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:18:00 -
[1075]
Quote: Hello, GM Yuggoth here.
Thank you for contacting Customer Support. We are afraid that in this case, we are unable to reimburse your loss. Our reimbursement policies mean that unless we are able to verify in our server side logs that the loss was the result of a bug or error within the game or server, our hands are tied with regards to providing reimbursement.
Please refer to our reimbursement policy page for more information:
URL: http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/reimbursment.asp
Our apologies for any inconvenience you may have suffered because of this.
Best regards, GM Yuggoth The EVE Online Customer Support Team
CCP Wins again... Hoho haha.
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Mamba Lev
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:21:00 -
[1076]
Fix the lag and sort out PI so i can set my extractors up without having to click over 9000 times and i will vote for you. Your last expansion was a joke, where are the T3 cruisers, why havn't you fixed the lag. CCP your turning into a bad joke and taking the **** out of us.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:30:00 -
[1077]
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Originally by: Harmone Princess I love watching everyone bluff that they are letting their subscriptions expire. You and CCP both know that you're not going to stop playing. They have you by the balls.
Not a bluff.
Expires: 8/6/2010 8:34:08 PM Remaining Playtime: 7d:1h:22m
My other account expires in even less time. Will I come back? I hope I have the willpower not to honestly. I quit once for about 6 months and didn't miss it during that break. The way the game quality is currently, I'll probably miss it even less.
I'm going to suicide some macks before I go. Have a nice Geddon set up for it too
Hey Kage, good to see you're still around (well, for a few more days anyway). On the first toon I had in Eve, a few days into starting Eve, you stole an unanchored container that my ceo at the time had just dropped out of his Itty in Oursalaert, and warped back to station. I remember us being all wtf about it and all of us nubs promising to "get our revenge". After a while I came to realise how funny it was and it was one of the things that made me continue playing at the time.
Sad to see you leave Eve and I would be leaving too, except I think I'll get what I still can out of the game while it's still there. This because I don't think it'll be here in 2 years, tbh.
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deadly badger
Caldari Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:34:00 -
[1078]
Sorry CCP i would rather a company that deserves it got my vote
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Jonkain
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:37:00 -
[1079]
The only way for CCP to take notice is for hoards of players to stop their subs, I've had a good think about and I've just cancelled both of my accounts.
Shame really been playing since 2003, will more than likely re-sub at a later date... if it's still around.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:42:00 -
[1080]
*sighs and shakes head*
(sometimes words just aren't worth the effort)
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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susisukes
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:46:00 -
[1081]
bla bla balba blalbalb blalbal no one cares bla bla blalbal balbll abllballballblbalblalalba
as jus saugau!
is anyone still reading?
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Tal' asir
Oblivion Amalgamated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:47:00 -
[1082]
Edited by: Tal'' asir on 30/07/2010 19:49:51 Eve taught me there are other games worthy of my limited time.
At one time, no such game existed and I used to tell my corp and alliance, "Silly person, there is no //insert game name here//, there is only Eve."
Eve showed me there was true merit in "online" friends. I have a few close ones now. I have never met many of them but I talk with them often. Because of Eve. I thank CCP for this.
Eve taught me that a silly spaceship game could actually get the adrenaline rolling and get it rolling real fast. It taught me if I invest my valuable game time into saving in game money for a pixel spaceship, I would actually use tactics to prevent said pixel ship from exploding.
For seven years, I have played Eve online. It had its ups and it had its downs. Most times, my "online friends" are what brought me back to the game.
Since Dominion, I have had this huge feeling that CCP has bled much of the fun out of the game and have tipped the balance to where I can't find the motivation to log on. This is not due to no new content, but more due to the fact that the old content was getting hammerf*cked by idiot decisions to attempt to make the game more fun. And when the community railed against theses asinine decisions, CCP kept on trucking like the juggernaut it has become. Indifferent to the vision it had long ago and continued to ride on the coat-tails of its community.
7 years, 2 accounts. I still talk to my "online friends" as they are not "online" friends anymore but friends. Thanks CCP for that. I however must say goodbye to you. My brand new PS3 with assorted games, starcraft 2, and the upcoming Diablo 3 will now compete for my precious game time. I can't waste it waiting for my guns to cycle or the system to load etc.
As stated here before, I love Eve but that love is not unconditional. You have not met my conditions for many months. Too long you have promised the world and yet offered the complete opposite and expect me to choke it down.
When you listen to the community and fix the game and all the associated half releases, maybe then I will come back. But the ship has already left the station and you missed that opportunity.
Good luck!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:48:00 -
[1083]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 30/07/2010 19:48:13
Originally by: susisukes is anyone still reading?
Yes.
I'm bored.
Ye'llo? |
Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:50:00 -
[1084]
300 in system, grid not loading , modules not cycling,
arnt we haveing fun.
19:49:02 Notify Session change already in progress.
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Interscene
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:58:00 -
[1085]
Edited by: Interscene on 30/07/2010 20:03:10 CCP have on many occasions in the past suprised me, and suprised me a lot with their more human aspect. The fact that many of their blogs (even for concepts I dislike and/or consider time-wasters like PI) contain lots of comical illustrative sketches and are approached with a friendly manner, the fact that many of the devs post openly on the forums - something most MMORPGs would never allow their designers to do - and other little things.
Its the PR that I think most of hate. Its the feeling that your being given a canned bit of tosh that either came free with some business management software or was dreampt up by some consultant in blue-sky painted 'conceptualisation pod.'
Its when CCP say things to their making 'exponetial headway' it walks into the brick-wall of the fact that the latest new builds of EVE have introduced lag almost unseen before. I've been fighting in 'big fleets' in EVE since 2006 and I've never seen it as bad as it was last month. When they release bland PR as damage control to prevent the future consumer market being polluted without replying to players its terrible.
The subscription paying players right here right now who are the current community demand better than promises of future content. We DEMAND that lag be fixed and that CCP work on getting that in order for the thousands of players who want this done over WiS and other candy-glitter.
And to those who say "If you don't like it, quit." Seriously - STFU. Thats the sort of thing you expect to here from a banker or some other beaurocrat who has your money already and knows that you have no alternative. We pay money for this game, CCP works to provide a service on our approval. We have more than the right to take it or leave it. To pay money or quit. We have the right to DEMAND that CCP fixes lag and fixes the game. We have the right to DEMAND that current content be fixed and made streamlined, not bolstered with more glittery half-functional content.
A human response from CCP is what this crowd wants to hear, we don't want to read marketing blurb damage control to satiate people who may become future customers on The Escapist or MSN. We want to hear from the people who make and maintain this game we love - deep down somewhere in all of us posting in this thread - that they're listening and not just bullheadedly trying to steer us with PR damage control. This thread is speaking to the directors of CCP, to its creative directors and to its development team - NOT to its marketing department!!
We have the right to DEMAND better from the money we pay. ___
I'm not an IRON diplomat or a spokesmen, my words and opinions are my own. Good luck taking them off me, though. |
Ae0lian
Caldari Militaris Industries Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:07:00 -
[1086]
i say, everyone at the fanfest thats comming up wearing a shirt that says FIX THIS GAME! or something... I donno, make the issues show up in their face rather then a thread they will ignore
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:09:00 -
[1087]
Edited by: Tokp Lotas on 30/07/2010 20:09:14
Originally by: Ae0lian i say, everyone at the fanfest thats comming up wearing a shirt that says FIX THIS GAME! or something... I donno, make the issues show up in their face rather then a thread they will ignore
NO WAY will be fanfest this year...
Ninja edit: Still waiting an official response Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
n3xxz
Caldari Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:11:00 -
[1088]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Notsureifsrs.jpeg
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:25:00 -
[1089]
A picture is worth 1000 words...
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:51:00 -
[1090]
There is a rumor that this was put out on slashdot.com, does anyone know about it? I guess CCP has a LOT of damage control to do.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:04:00 -
[1091]
Originally by: Syn Callibri There is a rumor that this was put out on slashdot.com, does anyone know about it? I guess CCP has a LOT of damage control to do.
There you go
http://games.slashdot.org/submission/1293730/Angry-players-lash-out-at-CCP-over-bugs
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:07:00 -
[1092]
I think the time for Damage Control is about over now.
Ye'llo? |
Erwin
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:11:00 -
[1093]
As a longtime customer I would like to add my support to all those that have taken the lead in getting attention from CCP to the stellar lack of connection to reality when CCP decided to create this thread. Fix our game please!
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:18:00 -
[1094]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 30/07/2010 21:22:22
CCP...CCP...hello...hello...Beuller...Beuller...anyone home?
Is that a dev -alt under me? V V V V V
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:21:00 -
[1095]
The game is not broken. Your perception of how the game is supposed to be played is broken.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:30:00 -
[1096]
Originally by: Harmone Princess The game is not broken. Your perception of how the game is supposed to be played is broken.
As Hilmar once said, perception is reality.
Selective Pressure is recruiting. |
crazy2monnkey
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Posted - 2010.07.30 21:42:00 -
[1097]
Originally by: Harmone Princess The game is not broken. Your perception of how the game is supposed to be played is broken.
Post with your main. |
Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:00:00 -
[1098]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
6/10. A little too obvious, but you succeeded in extracting much troll-feed from the replies.
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TyphMaster
Main Office
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:02:00 -
[1099]
This is ridiculous ... seriously
I think even WOW with all the issues they have is more stable than EVE today. --- Sig Under Construction |
LILJOE
Gallente Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:11:00 -
[1100]
Edited by: LILJOE on 30/07/2010 22:11:14 There is more to a game or any other software then it's content, and as many other amazing ideas I see bugs in EVE aswell which are keeping it to deserving such an award. Please dedicate time spent on an expansion to fixing bugs and you will have my vote and most of all support on any other nominations.
Thank you for your sandbox, now please go fix it! Your customer deserves it.
Yours truly but not the avarage, Joe.
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Captain Yarrness
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:12:00 -
[1101]
Ok i may have a minor cure to the lag issues. After years of having my skills nerfed, being encouraged to buy extra plex just to survive the game and haveing every indy need pandered too (less server intensive than pvp players) I have donated my stuff to the good guys of our awesome alliance and corporation and did the decent thing. Delete my characters and unsubscribe thus alleviating the extra load of my in game activity on the servers. i apologies to CCP for all the inconvenience my gaming has caused you and the extra investment in hardware that was required as the result of my activity and that of my friends on eve. As a result i am now doing you a favor and erasing the lot and finding something better to do with my time. I hope your partnership with Atari is a fruitfull and prosperous one and that Dust makes alot more money for you than eve has in its current lifetime. if I was a suspicious person i would suspect that this is a deliberate act to cut back on eve players for some unknown reason. Anyhow, hope the development deadlines are met and Atari give you all a nice big bonus. i am not going to go near another CCP again. o7 and fairwell.
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masamunesky
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:27:00 -
[1102]
im not impressed with the gm's as of late in the least bit, favoritism is shown. lets not forget the issue of loading grid and wtf clone vat... that is pure fail. how about fix the damned problems plaguing your game before you lose the dedicated pilots like myself who love what the game has potential of. BOTTOM LINE FIX THE DAMNED LAG, dont take 18months off to add new **** till the old is fixed. and work on your customer service its complete fail whale...
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Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:43:00 -
[1103]
I've been playing since 2007 and am now letting my two paying accounts expire.
One of the reasons for this is CCP's attitude towards the issues with the core game design... maybe it is time to start to fix things CCP.
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blulululu
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:59:00 -
[1104]
if only bioware would hurry with that new shiny mmo, if CCP continuous this way EVE will really be dying for a change.
I really like the idea and the game pre dominion was awesome someone however really f'd up with the expansions which added nothing of real value.
Fix lag Redo POS' Fix ship imbalances LISTEN to the players
75% of the ppl working there should be on fixing the stuff that isn't working properly/at all
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 23:06:00 -
[1105]
EVE is in the worst state in its history and is at a crossroads. Failure to act from ccp now will be very bad for them and their game.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 23:36:00 -
[1106]
I wanted to quote a post in another thread that I think sums up very nicely CCP's recent missteps. This has been a serious of PR screwups.
Originally by: Hegbard
People don't complain about the CSM. This time the CSM actually did their job, published what was said by CCP, published their impressions of their meetings and that's what broke the camels back. After that CCP, in some genius flashes of bad marketing added to the fire by publishing a dev blog about how the CSM was in fact right and that CCP will no longer develop EVE Online the spaceship game, how CCP doesn't care about the current customers and how new customers are a much better source of income. Then in added hilarity, front page (and login) news invented some fancy words for describing lag as a feature and then to drive the "we have absolutely no clue about what our customers think" point home, some CCP dude makes a sticky asking us to vote for EVE as the online game of the year.
There were some minor incidents of Really Bad Public Relations in between, but those are the main highlights.
tl;dr - don't tell your customers you don't care about the product you sold them. And if you do, don't ask them to vote for you in a popularity contest a few days later.
CCP, you are playing some high stakes juggling here. It is pretty obvious your business model lately has been to slam in new shinys in the hope you can do just enough bug fixing along the way to keep people happy. You also seem to be really betting the house on Dust/Incarna making people happy enough that they will overlook the multitude of problems with the current game and also stick it out long enough to see those expansions.
Bite the bullet in two areas.
One. Delay something, spend 3 solid months with a big team doing nothing but major fixes. Delay whichever feature Incarna/Dust/World of Emoness will retain the most players come next year when StarWars MMO hits since its the most likely to steal from your playebase. Hiring a team isn't practical as the spinup time is too long. But you made a major understaffing mistake not hiring more people a year ago. You should correct that now, and be very vocal about how many people you are hiring, give people some hope you are going to turn this around, at least long term. Focus on some of the following as they affect the most people Lag/SOV/FactionWF/Balance and small things like rockets (which honestly here, how can you excuse rockets being broken for years, seriously).
Two. Upgrade your hardware, holy crap. I am sure many of my fellow IT industry people were extremely underwhelmed by the cluster hardware. You guys are in serious need of a hardware refresh. I applaud you for things like the RAM SAN and stackless. But you are starving the playerbase of cheap performance with those blades being well, lacking. CAPEX for this Is pretty damn minimal in the scheme of things. World of Emo sucking all the money away?
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CHIMERAA
Gallente 7-Eleven
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Posted - 2010.07.31 00:45:00 -
[1107]
I'm annoyed that the thread has even been posted. What arroggance on the part of CCP. I rarely post on the forum but had to as I'm completely disgusted at you CCP. Fix your game.
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LymeM
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.07.31 01:21:00 -
[1108]
Fix the lag, and the bugs.. maybe you will do better next year in the awards.
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Ae0lian
Caldari Militaris Industries Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.31 01:42:00 -
[1109]
Edited by: Ae0lian on 31/07/2010 01:42:37 I want to see a reply to this out pouring of hate. if they just ignore this I am willing to bet the Dust players will say things like "Wern't we suppost to connect to some spaceship game? You know... EvE Online?" They really need to look into things if this thread keeps getting that many responces.
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Mhormal
Amarr THE F.E.A.R
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Posted - 2010.07.31 01:42:00 -
[1110]
I would have voted yes after the wormhole expansion, not everyone like tech 3 ships but it did bring some new stuff on the table to play with , in my opinion that was an example of a good expansion. That tyrannis expansion ? I have watched the pre-release trailers, the nuking console players from orbit stuff, the advertisement trailers, you are no planet tyrant, you are just landing a few industrial modules on inhabited rocks , this was clearly false advertisment, you are not oppressing any population, ruling with an iron fist....its not pvp , you dont have to defend your installations,Its not even pve its strictly industrial clickfest i dont know anyone whos enjoying it. Now i heard most of the dev team is working on icarna, thats cool to have a 3D avatar , once incarna is released we will tailor our new awesomely good looking character walk a bit in and try the minigames.. and probabbly get bored of it after a week. This is to attract new customers ? Eve is way too complex for the wow kids and dress a barby crowd. 18 months of development to see gorean amarrians roleplayers running after naked matar slaves in jita station ... brrr Do you really want that ? theres already second life for that. Once you are bored of station you are back to the same old eve spaceship game with broken mechanism some untouched since 2003 (bounties for ex ) .
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:09:00 -
[1111]
I feel the need to add annother plate to this threadnaught.
My initial reaction on hearing a corp mate tell me, "youve got to look at this, ccp have posted an award thread they like us to vote on..." was just "Not after the new sov patch introduced the unplayablity feature" even before I knew the average response. I've let my main capital pilot run out of plex, and am focusing my exploration alt on building ravens in empire. I think I only play eve 4 hours a week now, and its not because Im bored of the game... Its just I can no longer have fleet fights. PvP these days is either small roaming (were you have locking time fights with your fleet mates on stray shuttles) or gate camps. I get the same level of satifaction reading about capital fights in far off regions as I do turning up to one and watching... well, nothing.
This is the state of the game snce december 09, and aparently will be the state of the game till december 11. Unless CCP decides to quit messing about with their planned trivial "expansion" content and FIX the game, I'll have long since given up on all my accounts. The only reason I can think of that anyone at ccp, much less the apparent 100% consencuss of allowing the bugs to stay, if not grow, is that theyve got so many empire dwellers subscribing that they simply dont care that 0.0 is unplayable, and wish to die a slow and painfull mmo death as their fans drop away one by one.
I enjoyed eve once, and am beginning to wonder if I will do so again.
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Eklykti
Caldari Zion foundation Red Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:25:00 -
[1112]
Fix lag first.
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bongono
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:33:00 -
[1113]
no
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:37:00 -
[1114]
I can't believe CCP has NOT issued a statement to the players yet. They did respond to one of the "news" sites, but that is hardly something that will be seen here...
CCP say you're sorry that you led us to believe you put lag on the back burner.
Come on guys, SAY SOMETHING
Apollo TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Xikorita
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.31 03:18:00 -
[1115]
I find it very funny that to the media the fleet problem is the 1st priority but to us and in official statements it is obviously not.
Riiight, very nice indeed =/
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Isaac Apylon
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.31 03:32:00 -
[1116]
Sorry, CCP, but the data currently does not support voting for your horribly broken game.
I'm not a hardcore nullsec player; heck I'm not even a hardcore eve player. I fork up my subscription fee or Plex each month, play the game when I have time, and (used to) have a good bit of fun. But even I can see that Eve is not what it used to be, whether you're in 0.0 or not. The lag monster is reaching as far as hisec at times, and don't even get me started on my few trips down to null. I sat around in a system with 3 people at one point and waited several minutes for my modules to cycle. I'd hate to imagine how it is for people actually participating in the huge battles.
And the lag isn't even the entire problem. The last two expansions might as well have been vaporware for all the effect they had on the game. Dominion introduced a broken sov system that did nothing for anyone outside of 0.0 except feed the lag monster radioactive juice, and Tyrannis is just crap. You seriously call a ****ed up clickfest an expansion? Really?! Lag continues unabated and many of the basic fixes asked for by players remain unaddressed, and you have the audacity to tell us that you'll get to it in 18 months, so you can work on some more vaporware? **** that.
Don't get me wrong, I love Eve, I really do. I have not seen another game that lets the player do everything they can do in Eve. The amount of freedom is unparalleled. I've been with the game for two years now, and they have been good for the most part. But the last two pathetic excuses for expansions, coupled with the treatment of the player base in the wake of CSM5, tell me that Eve is not the game it used to be, and it likely will not be for the next year or two.
I'll be plopping down one more Plex for the next month. That's all the time I'm giving to see whether or not CCP actually cares about their game. If nothing happens, well, I'll just let my account expire and leave it at that. Won't be happy about it, but hey, I'm not going to keep investing my time in the game when management clearly doesn't want to meaningfully invest their time in it, either.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:05:00 -
[1117]
As a person who does not own a console and plays Eve to be in space. **** Incarna. **** Dust. Fix my god damn space ships.
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Elder Lemon
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:35:00 -
[1118]
Edited by: Elder Lemon on 31/07/2010 04:40:53
Vote for eve? why should i. Its a second job i have to pay for. How many of my pettitions have gotten the ansewrs i was looking for? Oh thats right, NONE. How many ships have become useless due to "upgrades'? lets see here, 1, 2, 10... How many ships are still useless due to lack of cinsideration in design? In my opinion the rokh needs some serius thinking. Was i renbursed for a game flaw? Nope, "though there is no way to verify it, as our logs show no abnormal circumstances involved in this case". 10k vollies in a level 4 with NO enemies should instapop my ship as much as you guys make a worthwhile fix,and thats next to never.
Do i still like eve? hell yes Will i continue to play? hell yeah Am i going to rate it #1 best online game? HELL NO!
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:44:00 -
[1119]
So the lag monster is now affecting smaller gangs, eh? Let's start making bets on when the 1v1 fights get lag-bombed to death.
On voting: don't even think about it. I should be voting for EVE because I don't care about any of the other games, but Tyrannis is just not worth voting for.
Editorial: if CCP is trying to control server lag by getting players to quit, they are succeeding.
[sarcasm] Nice post Zymurgist. [/sarcasm] ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Zulimu
Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 05:18:00 -
[1120]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
So, CCP keeps weeing on the heads of their customers, telling them its warm rain and YOU expect us to vote for it as the best online game?
Thx for making me aware theres actually a vote going, i regged and made sure to vote something else.
Fix EvE and we might talk about it next time!
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Kazn Antilli
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.07.31 06:29:00 -
[1121]
Sorry CCP. You're not getting any help from the "vocal minority."
I feel that I love this game enough to be a harsh critic, and I will say that I don't believe you deserve the vote this time around. Get your act together.
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Rokkas
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.31 06:48:00 -
[1122]
...in the words of germany's former foreign minister Fischer:"I am not convinced", therefore no vote from me.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:00:00 -
[1123]
This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
Kitty Meow
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:01:00 -
[1124]
My 2 ISK worth.
I have read "The 0.0 Report", in E-ON Issue 20, and the news reports of fleet warfare. Nearly all battles mentioned had massive lag in them. With the Tyranis expansion, CCP break the "Contact List" and remold it as a "Standings List", just to name one issue.
So...........
"Incarna" - I don't see how ambulation would improve Eve. It might simply do better with simply more animation, (agent expressions).
Will I vote for Eve, for best game of the year? - Unfortunately, I can't. Sorry CCP, but please, do fix the many issues the game has.
Kitty.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:05:00 -
[1125]
I, for one, will not be voting for EVE Online to receive any type of award until the majority of the base concerns are addressed within EVE Online.
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games understand that they are moving too fast into new markets that they have not experience being in (First Person MMOs and shooters) nothing will be fixed. With the current development schedule they have, as I understand it, they intend to roll out Incarna within the year and then roll out DUST514 after that. This is WAY too fast and they need to tone down the pace a bit or they will have a failed product on their hands. (I point to Star Trek Online when it first came out as an example) We live in an age where the consumer is well informed. If a product is a good one, the consumers will rally more people to subscribe to it. (I point to Amazons kindle as an example) I believe that CCP needs to subscribe to a long term philosophy instead of satisfying shareholder wants if they want to continue their image of a consumer friendly company.
What I would like to see is CCP Games stepping back a little and providing support for their current subscribers while passively developing their Incarna expansion. Personally I think the deadline set for Incarna is inappropriate now that new Lag issues have appeared and ongoing balance and Game play issues have built up over the years. These need to be addressed before moving forward.
Historically, CCP has 2 expansions per year (one in summer and winter). I think that it is about time that CCP sets aside one expansions for game improvements (UI tweaks/redesigns, Game balancing, Game mechanic changes, and Core code rebuilds) and have the other expansion set aside for new content (Incarna, PI, Ships, New Functions/Additions, World/Game shaping changes) I think this will bode well for both CCP Games, as a company, its employees, and its costumers as it will give a since of consistency and stability to all parties involved.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:23:00 -
[1126]
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 31/07/2010 07:25:50 For those who haven't seen the articles yet:
EVE Solicits Player Support, Players Solicit Lag Fix http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix/ http://www.xboxcentre.com/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix.html http://beginnergamer.blogspot.com/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players.html
EVE players trash CCP in European Games Award thread http://rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=3151
Eve Online 'broken' by in-game lag http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257716
Size Doesn't Matter http://noprisonersnomercy.com/2010/07/size-doesnt-matter/
Vote eve online for best game at european games award <insert ironicat here> http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?6645-Vote-eve-online-for-best-game-at-european-games-award-lt-insert-ironicat-here-gt
Iceland, we have a problem! http://teadaze.net/GalNet/
Theres also trackbacks on twitter, reddit, diggit, etc... linkbacks, and various other blog sites also discussing it. If you find more articles about it post them here for the players and CCP and quote this post so they can't ignore it.
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:29:00 -
[1127]
This thread is amazing, for all the wrong reasons. And yet, the reactions are as unsurprising as they are sad.
Fwiw, the only reason I'm still subbed to the game is because I've switched to PLEXes. CCP may still get their money, but it sure as hell won't be coming from me. Not for 18 months or so, anyway.
/Ben
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:09:00 -
[1128]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
It isn't that people don't care. But how many times can you say "No, your game is horribly broken and we the player base don't think you deserve this award until you fix the game."? Because that sums up pretty much every post on every page in this thread.
I mean if CCP hasn't got the message by now... do you really think they'll ever get it?
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:15:00 -
[1129]
Originally by: Vaneshi SnowCrash
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
It isn't that people don't care. But how many times can you say "No, your game is horribly broken and we the player base don't think you deserve this award until you fix the game."? Because that sums up pretty much every post on every page in this thread.
I mean if CCP hasn't got the message by now... do you really think they'll ever get it?
I was one of the 'vocal minority' who thought the game was worth trying to salvage. I'm now one of the silent minority who have decided that there really is no reason to play while it's this broken. CCP didn't really need our money anyway right?
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:24:00 -
[1130]
Don't worry guys when i am back in 18 months i will still be an excellent poster.
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Gnidex
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:25:00 -
[1131]
Best troll post ever. Try it again in 18 months, maybe by that time i'll have the resources available to handle a mouseclick. Not like some of the issues that need to be adressed require more than just tinkering with a number in some database. Fire your game balance team and the designers responsible for PI CCP.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:07:00 -
[1132]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
R U 4 real? The threadnought this post has sparked should tell CCP all it needs to know re: how the playerbase feels about EVE and CCP right now. The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor, not because their game is in anyways still half decent (note to CCP: it's not).
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Lexa HeIIfury
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:37:00 -
[1133]
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:40:00 -
[1134]
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
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Laveaolous
20th Legion Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:56:00 -
[1135]
Sorry CCP but I am abstaining this year, which dissapoints me more than you its seems.
At this point I think that you should be happy enough that I still care enough to pay for 2 accounts and PLEX 1, but this loyalty and patience is not infinate.
Balls in your court, you have dropped it but still have time to pick it up and toss it back.
----------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:35:00 -
[1136]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel I can't believe CCP has NOT issued a statement to the players yet. They did respond to one of the "news" sites, but that is hardly something that will be seen here...
CCP say you're sorry that you led us to believe you put lag on the back burner.
Come on guys, SAY SOMETHING
Apollo
The response was by an unamed CCP 'source', and was essentially a bunch of marketing BS, so its pretty much worth nothing
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:38:00 -
[1137]
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers. _____________________________ Lessons Learned from New Eden |
Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:46:00 -
[1138]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers.
im a big fan of the 100mm on my t-43 also! ________
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:48:00 -
[1139]
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
What can I say? I love variety. I rebought my luchs as well. I like the speedy zoom zoom with 6 tanks tryign to snipe me.
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Deldrac
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:56:00 -
[1140]
There is a lot of optimism in this thread about how CCP might do some worthwhile development on EVE in 18 months time.
No such promise was made in the dev blogs, all they committed to was not doing anything worth a damn on the next 2 expansions, and that they hadn't decided what to do in 18 months. You guys really shouldn't get your hopes up.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:58:00 -
[1141]
Originally by: Bobbechk
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers.
im a big fan of the 100mm on my t-43 also!
T-43 - the most cost-efficient tank in history ... I have wet dreams about T-43
Originally by: Zendoren
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games /snip
CCP is a private company - perhaps they are going for an IPO ... _____________________________ Lessons Learned from New Eden |
EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:07:00 -
[1142]
Originally by: Deldrac There is a lot of optimism in this thread about how CCP might do some worthwhile development on EVE in 18 months time.
No such promise was made in the dev blogs, all they committed to was not doing anything worth a damn on the next 2 expansions, and that they hadn't decided what to do in 18 months. You guys really shouldn't get your hopes up.
Same thing they do every year, ignore the promises of expanding existing features in favor of something NEW AND AMAZING that will increase the "immersion" of Eve
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:07:00 -
[1143]
Edited by: King Gore on 31/07/2010 11:07:40
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Bobbechk
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers.
im a big fan of the 100mm on my t-43 also!
T-43 - the most cost-efficient tank in history ... I have wet dreams about T-43
Originally by: Zendoren
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games /snip
CCP is a private company - perhaps they are going for an IPO ...
It seems as though we are already forgetting about EvE.
BTW, thanks to who ever for linking that WoT beta key, about to check it out here for the next 18 months.
EDIT: Jazzed up my reply a bit. -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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minrarr
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:09:00 -
[1144]
CCP IT'S SIMPLE FIX LAG AND THEN YOU WILL GET VOTE'S ATM THIS GAME IS NOT PLAYABLE
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:09:00 -
[1145]
Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 31/07/2010 11:09:57
Originally by: King Gore
It seems as though we are already forgetting about EvE.
BTW, thanks to who ever for linking that WoT beta key, about to check it out here for the next 18 months.
EDIT: Jazzed up my reply a bit.
Ya that was me. You're quite welcome.
Loving the irony of people finding a new game that will offer territorial conquest in a "VOTE FOR EVE" thread posted by a CCP employee.
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Gritstone
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:26:00 -
[1146]
Just adding a +1 to all the posts saying you don't deserve any sort of award at this time CCP.
EVE is about spaceships - you seem to have lost sight of that.
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Lilly Allenson
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:27:00 -
[1147]
did enjoy the lols of this thread, thanks ccp best thing you have done in along time
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Dray
Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.31 11:37:00 -
[1148]
Who says CCP doesn't deliver on content....
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motomysz
Nexus Advanced Technologies Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:02:00 -
[1149]
Don't worry, CCP. These 39 pages of negativity are just a few first-responder trolls (and their army of alts), who sit around waiting for any opportunity to say bad things about Eve. Soon this thread will filled with positive responses posted by your many adoring subscribers, who are bound to find this thread now that it's been posted for more than a few minutes.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:07:00 -
[1150]
Loving WoT.
Still not voting EVE.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:09:00 -
[1151]
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
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Groes Thir
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:29:00 -
[1152]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
QFT. Tyrannis, a steaming pile of dog**** and stupid planetary frustration mini-game. CCP get your **** together, I'm sick of this. Take names and fix your game the day before yesterday. Tick tock. ----------------------------------------
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Nerevar Dwemor
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:29:00 -
[1153]
I just run a sanctum in Tribute.
When i undocked and started scanning for signatures with my onboard scanner the timer went to zero and stuck there. Had to switch tabs back and forth to make the results appear. When i started shooting red crosses i recognized the cycleindicators of my modules were totally out of sync.
After i was done i hopped into my catalyst and warped to the wrecks. They didn't appear in my overview, even when i deleted and added them again to it. I had to reload an default option (mining) so they appeared. When i started salvaging and zoomed closer i saw this (no, it's not my graphics card).
From time to time my weapons don't do any damage. Day before yesterdayi I had to stay docked cause there were round 6 seconds lag. With such lag flying my not-capstable, micromanaging protheus is to unsafe. I wasn't able to play the game I love. Not talking about random disconnects while my w-lan is totally fine.
Not this year CCP
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.07.31 13:31:00 -
[1154]
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
We are here because we love the concept of the game and because ccp has caught us and got us adictive, but even the best drug will only keep you "up" for a specific amount of time and when it starts wearing off then comes the drawbacks and headaches.
this.
I agree its time to listen to the players.Worst part is dust.Without the pc players..this game wouldnt even exist.In my opinion..they should come first.I also do play alot of battlefield. And dont pay monthly.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.31 13:32:00 -
[1155]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Zendoren
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games /snip
CCP is a private company - perhaps they are going for an IPO ...
Originally by: wikipedia with Sigur=ur Arnlj=tsson as CEO, raised $2.6 million, through a closed offering organized by Kaupthing Bank (now Arion banki), from private investors in Iceland, including the Icelandic telephone company Siminn. /Snip Source
I wonder if they paid their investors off yet? Or if they have any new investors? Would explain the growth spurt at CCP games in recent years!
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Deliora May
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Posted - 2010.07.31 13:37:00 -
[1156]
Edited by: Deliora May on 31/07/2010 13:41:42 After telling you off that I will not vote for you earlier I think it is high time that I give you some suggestions about how to fix something and how to take care of some issues. Note: They are all suggestions, based on ideas of mine. First of all - the lag. You are not going to get around that. Fix it. There is no way you can ditch it or put it into friendly words. Secondly: Low sec suggestions. 1) Construct "pirate" stations that only let people with negative security standings dock. That should be easy enough for you to fix shouldn't it? 2) Gate guns. While a nice idea to protect newbies, they are a bit... random? Either remove them or introduce an anchorable item that can disrupt them, so that newer players that can't tank them have a chance for pirate life 3) Gates. Some hidden smuggling gates only accessable to those with negative security standings would be nice. 4) Asteroid Belts etc. Make them more worthwhile for the miners who risk going there. There should be a risk / gain factor that is remotely equal, while at the moment it is relatively screwed. 5) Bombs and dictor bubbles. I myself am bit torn on that point, but let's admit it, no other ship is restricted like bombers and dictors in low-sec with taking one of their main "toys" away like bombers and dictors. I don't ask for them in high-sec but I think it'd be fair to have them usable in low-sec EDIT: Bribing of concord. While I realise that this is already possible on a scale with war-decs, it would be nice if single players could bribe concord with an option in pirate stations, similar to the LP points. The more money they pay, the higher they are allowed to roam into highsec without concord shooting them. General (PvP) suggestions: Nothing against docking games, they can be fun if you play them yourself, but I think most of us can agree on that they are pretty... annoying. I don't have anything against the timer in which you can't target the people, but why not lengthen the cooldown they can't dock with THAT SPECIFIC STATION to two minutes. Rockets: Balance them. Currently close to no one uses them and there is a good reason for that.
Tec 3 Cruisers: Balance them out. The Legion is falling behind the other 3 tec3 cruisers and is barely flown, while you see tengus / lokis quite alot. Try to review your data on those ships and find a good middle way for them.
Battleships: More variability. The ones that got the most there would be the caldari at the moment, the ones who are worst of when it comes to variability (note variability |= to being useful) are amarr as all their 3 ships use lasers as their primary damage method (gallente got the dominix as the oddball, minmatar the hurricane, caldari the scorpion).
0.0 PvP Please change the boring siegefest that stations etc. are. The HP on them is ridiculous. I am not saying make it easier to capture them. Maybe allow the corp that is holding them to construct guns on / near the station, while lowering the HP considerably.
I am not even going to go onto the point of sovereignity mechanics, I leave that to alliance CEO's etc. who are more experienced in that point than me, with my limited expertise in that area.
Now than, here you go with a few suggestions, that are only the tip of the iceberg on how you can make things more interesting while A) Fixing current problems and B) introducing new features.
I am sure there are many more valueble ideas out there that would like looking at, which can allow a compromise of you being able to add new features for new customers, while fixing the bugs for the already active playerbase
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Infectious Blood
0ccam's Razor Industries Galactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.31 13:43:00 -
[1157]
I love eve and play for over 8 hours a day ( sad i know ) but i have to agree with the player base, lag is a huge issue. And as much as you want to sugar coat it with post's about spacial distrubances during fleet battles (lol) it annoys the hell out of me when i get session changes everytime i jump through a damn gate. Fix what you have before working on new content that your player base isnt bothered about, then by all means add another expansion. TBH we dont need more content CCP we need a game that runs smoothly.
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:02:00 -
[1158]
I give it 6 months. By then CCP will either be bankrupt or fixing bugs. Either one is fine with me at this point. PSBADPUP > I was trying to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes, until he started firing at me.
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Joretto Hawisaki
United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:13:00 -
[1159]
CCP are the best trolls.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:29:00 -
[1160]
Fix the game, and I might consider voting. Oh wait, sorry- Can't vote for another 18 months. I'm working on other projects. ¼¼ ---
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April Knox
COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:37:00 -
[1161]
Fix the "Socket Closed" error and I'll vote.
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Elijah Olivaw
Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:59:00 -
[1162]
Originally by: Xikorita I find it very funny that to the media the fleet problem is the 1st priority but to us and in official statements it is obviously not.
Riiight, very nice indeed =/
Fix lag pls and keep your customers informed!
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.31 15:07:00 -
[1163]
Edited by: Marcus Vorenius on 31/07/2010 15:08:54
Originally by: Zendoren
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Zendoren
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games /snip
CCP is a private company - perhaps they are going for an IPO ...
Originally by: wikipedia with Sigur=ur Arnlj=tsson as CEO, raised $2.6 million, through a closed offering organized by Kaupthing Bank (now Arion banki), from private investors in Iceland, including the Icelandic telephone company Siminn. /Snip Source
I wonder if they paid their investors off yet? Or if they have any new investors? Would explain the growth spurt at CCP games in recent years!
If they are going for an IPO, then it all makes sense. Investors don't give a hoot about lag - check the cartoon at the bottom of this page: Scrum makes you smarter
Where do they get the Iskies from; I have two active accounts, and since I suck at PVP I need my iskies in reserve for moving back to 0.0 ... hold on... nvm _______________________ P3T Blog: Lessons Learned from New Eden |
Turdilious
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Posted - 2010.07.31 15:10:00 -
[1164]
I'm sorry but it is against my policy to vote for you under these circumstances. My policies are very strict in these circumstances. Due to the very nature of customer service this type of reaction to your suggestion to vote for you must be understood as the only option available to both me and the Eve community. Take care and I hope you rebuild your reputation soon as I can understand that this can be very difficult given the circumstances.
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.07.31 15:22:00 -
[1165]
Its simple. Give me a well polished product that deserves a vote. Then I will vote.
It doesn't mean I don't love the game, I do love EVE with whole my heart, but if this has to be the wake up call for CCP, so be it. -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Konosos
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Posted - 2010.07.31 15:28:00 -
[1166]
CCP, unfortunately I have to deny your demand to vote for you. No explanation necessary after 39 pages in here.
also lol @
Originally by: Liandra Xi
EVE Solicits Player Support, Players Solicit Lag Fix http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix/ http://www.xboxcentre.com/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix.html http://beginnergamer.blogspot.com/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players.html
EVE players trash CCP in European Games Award thread http://rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=3151
Eve Online 'broken' by in-game lag http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257716
Size Doesn't Matter http://noprisonersnomercy.com/2010/07/size-doesnt-matter/
Vote eve online for best game at european games award <insert ironicat here> http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?6645-Vote-eve-online-for-best-game-at-european-games-award-lt-insert-ironicat-here-gt
edit: how typical that the kugu forums name is a censored word here, CCP doesn't really like transparency and having people examine them too closely do they. :O
Iceland, we have a problem! http://teadaze.net/GalNet/
Theres also trackbacks on twitter, reddit, diggit, etc... linkbacks, and various other blog sites also discussing it. If you find more articles about it post them here for the players and CCP and quote this post so they can't ignore it.
Looks like there are some big bad dark clouds on the horizon, heading right to Iceland.
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Mu'n Hurricane
Minmatar Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.07.31 15:50:00 -
[1167]
Edited by: Mu''n Hurricane on 31/07/2010 15:50:20 Hey, guys, guys! It's not in CCP policy to fix things. The goal is to sell new features. And then some more new features. Because data shows that it gives more bucks!.. a shortsighted crap.
Read the 14.30 - 15.30 part. http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_23-25_06_2010.pdf
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Efferil
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:02:00 -
[1168]
(Insert whine about fixing their bloody game here)
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Boonaki
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:14:00 -
[1169]
Heh, listen to the players CCP, you don't want to end up like many of the MMO's out there that didn't. Star Trek Online for example.
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marinko26210
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:39:00 -
[1170]
No vote from me... Why?.... Because I can.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:41:00 -
[1171]
I see a SWG style ending going on here for EVE
Developers being brain dead and not doing what the players want.
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Ashley Acelin
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:48:00 -
[1172]
/signed
Broken game - way too much latency / lag when systems over 650.
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Baron Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:55:00 -
[1173]
The lack of commitment from CCP to improve already poorly implemented features is disappointing. Not to mention the expectation of future features being jut as poorly thought out, and barely functional. Little hope of already released features being looked at again. PI in its current state is awful, and adds only frustration to the game.
What did we get with the Tyrannis:-
PI - To me a big disappointment over what I had expected. Click-fest on round icons from orbit (dot to dot puzzle, but less fun) . Why even bother releasing this. Eve gate - Never needed to used it. Plenty of other external e-mail, and calender apps out there why waste resources making another? To think they were going to call it COSMOS just proves past features are soon forgotten.
Graphic update - 1 new texture for a single ship
AlienFX - Flashy keyboard lights for a small percentage of Eve players. With all the bugs in the game needing looked at seemingly being ignored. Yet somehow managed to find the development, and QA time to implement in game!
And now CCP thinks it should to win an award for this?
IMHO Incarna is a test bed for WoD technology. Its implementation in Eve is an afterthought, and an excuse to take more developers from Eve. Even if Dust is the best X-box FPS game out. It will only have a shelf life of a few months given what has happened to every other FPS that has been released. Eve could be so much better if CCP would only focus its resources on improving the numerous currently implemented features, and fixing the bugs.
I have been playing eve since 2003, and up to a few years ago I would not think twice about voting for Eve. Given the current state of the game, its future over the next few years - No vote from me. CCP simply don't deserve it.
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Lady Lazy
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Posted - 2010.07.31 17:09:00 -
[1174]
CCP Nathan: "the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
Simply put: CCP currently cares more for increased revenue rather than providing its current player base with a fully working product.
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.31 17:24:00 -
[1175]
You have to giggle.
over 1100 replies and maybe about 10 of them positive, the only reply we have had from CCP was a smart ass comment from one of them.
CCP isn't it about time you told your member base what is going on, why there is so much lag in the game that was working fine pre dominion.
And give us a god damn time frame on a fix for this, and may be just maybe listen to your player base and polish this game up.
Give us the EvE you promote, that we see in the juicy video's you post, then add more content, we all want to feel excited logging in again, atm its a fancy chatter box.
what you say deal?
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RuckaLucka Ali
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 17:32:00 -
[1176]
i already have a facebook and i already play farmville why should i vote for you because you made one in a space game
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.31 17:37:00 -
[1177]
Originally by: Baron Harkonnen
Eve gate - Never needed to used it. Plenty of other external e-mail, and calender apps out there why waste resources making another? To think they were going to call it COSMOS just proves past features are soon forgotten.
it realy anoyed me that they called it eve gate tbh the old intro movie showed how we all got to this galay via the wormhole named eve gate. hell the 1st time i ventured into low sec as a noob was to go to the system where its located and it was cool as **** and somehow felt realy earie and un-nerving. fast forward a few yrs I took n00bs out of the alliance i was in at the time to the eve gate for them it was a cool thing to see. for me it got them used to flying and fighting in low sec it was win win.
ask a noob what eve gate is now and they will tell you its a fail calander/ingame mail front end that most have only logged into once to turn the privacy settings ON!!!!.
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Onar Maldarian
Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 17:50:00 -
[1178]
In before thread locked for lack of content.
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:00:00 -
[1179]
Originally by: Supay
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online for best online game!
Our logs show nothing.
Amen brother
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Taxtro Grave
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:12:00 -
[1180]
Nope.
CCP, why do you hate us 0.0 players so much? We still bring in you guys bucket loads of money every single day, of every single week, of every single month, of every single year.
Fix your game, mmmkay?
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Baumi
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:15:00 -
[1181]
I will happily vote for you in 18 months after you fixed the lag.
Before... no way in hell you get my vote.
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:18:00 -
[1182]
is it wrong to look at the little server graph on the front page and be happy to see it being less than last weeks average?
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airdefense
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:25:00 -
[1183]
I have unsubscribed my 3 accounts so GFY CCP, I will have my JD ready when you close the doors and your devs are selling ice cones to the chinese for employment.
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oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:26:00 -
[1184]
we shouldnt try to ruin the game even more. some of us have invested seven years and thousands of hours into their position in the game. some manager is able to make this all worthless with a bad decision. thats scary and should open the eyes of many about the real value of the game.
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ForeU CEO
Caldari Forethought Unchained
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:32:00 -
[1185]
Toasting in a PR nightmare thread that has spilled over to several gamersites already ------------------------------------ |
Taxtro Grave
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:53:00 -
[1186]
Originally by: ForeU CEO Toasting in a PR nightmare thread that has spilled over to several gamersites already
Which ones?
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Chui Menta
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:55:00 -
[1187]
CCP, you said you had fixing issues as nr. 1 priority, yet you released several new features last couple of months/years and kinda nothing got fixed.
No vote this time. Try again later.
And as Kotaku so greatly puts it:
With fans voting for everything from Battlefield 1943 to Age of Conan, thereÆs no way in hell EVE Online is winning the European Games Award for best online game.
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Taxtro Grave
Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:02:00 -
[1188]
Hahaha, that was a brilliant post.
"With fans voting for everything from Battlefield 1943 to Age of Conan, thereÆs no way in hell EVE Online is winning the European Games Award for best online game. ThereÆs always next year."
Win.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:05:00 -
[1189]
This is eve.
Best pic I could find, would have liked a nicer car (eve is a good game) but =p
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William Pierce
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:06:00 -
[1190]
Originally by: Taxtro Grave
Originally by: ForeU CEO Toasting in a PR nightmare thread that has spilled over to several gamersites already
Which ones?
I've been sending out tips on the story to every major site I can find. So far kotaku, MSN, and another site has published it.
Anyways, I'm off to play world of tanks
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Manyar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:12:00 -
[1191]
CCP will have nice mess monday morning when they come to work. Doubt with their system that anyone has heard about this feedback yet...
Also, the longer it takes for them to fabricate an answer, the worse the situation will get. So, I hope they've improved their logging system, because if they still can't see where the problem lies, I guess it might be goodbye for CCP.
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Sallah Hernandes
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:19:00 -
[1192]
Just here to add another +1 to the fix the outstanding issues before the game is worthy of best "game status" again
I was addicted to Eve for 4 years, the development cycyle in the last year has reduced my activity to the point where I don't even train skills. The losses to gameplay in the last year have been in no way matched by the 'shiny things' added. The 2 fanfest events I attended were punctuated by the core value that players like to "shoot people in the face" (Zulupark 2009), if the players can't do this Planetary Interaction can't make up for it. New features may draw new players - but what is the lifespan of a modern account, 4 months? 6 months? At what point will the new account numbers be insufficient to cover the loss of multiple account addicts (3 for myself + 1 buddy)
To all the people I've shot in Eve - take care of yourself To all the people who shot me - keep red and gf. Special thanks to all Tgrads past and present and to Vuk Lau - Vidimo Se! (in RL somewhere)
Must make sure my email accounts are set correctly so I can get the 5 day reactivation emails when things are fixed [bolded the part that is important to me]
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8agpuss
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:20:00 -
[1193]
The data seems to show that new features don't result in votes for game of the year, and polished quality might.
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Patoa
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:30:00 -
[1194]
Originally by: 8agpuss The data seems to show that new features don't result in votes for game of the year, and polished quality might.
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Kerzack
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:37:00 -
[1195]
CCP - fix the current problems and you might get a chance next year!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:41:00 -
[1196]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 31/07/2010 19:46:50 Me > *talking about EVE* Friend > Oh, I've heard of that game. Me > Cool, want a buddy invite? Friend > **** no; I heard the devs have abandoned it for a console shooter, you can't do anything because of lag, and it's buggy as hell. Me > Sure you don't want to just try it? A trial is free you know... Friend > World of tanks is free too. Me > But that's a closed beta. Friend > Same difference. Except the devs for 'tanks are actually working on it.
Ouch. Sorry CCP, I tried, but I think you lost a potential customer there.
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Airpizza II
Amarr The Wretched.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 20:16:00 -
[1197]
Haha, Not a hope in hell of me voting for EvE. As soon as World of Tanks is out of beta I will cancel both my a/c's. EvE has gone stale, and the dev spin/bs is just wrong. I reckon the beancounters run CCP which is a pity, it WAS a really amazing game.
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Sha Dar
eXceeded
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Posted - 2010.07.31 20:26:00 -
[1198]
CCPs customer service and their established methods of "communicating" with their playerbase are beyond abysmal and have been for years.
The fact they haven't improved, and the game has been virtually abandoned other than to use as a testbed for WOD so we can iron out all the bugs for them... (You do like paying to be a beta tester.. don't you ?) speaks volumes about their attitudes.
The long term playerbase used to tolerate this as the game was worth it, but over time, the bitter vets club has grown both bigger, and much more intolerant of the abuse it used to happily endure... (We've been bent over and ceremonially ass-paddled for years with minimal complaint)
The CSM was created to put out the fire of the last great player uprising, and look how that turned out... Toothless, relatively pointless but has actually turned up some juicy and worthwhile material after a fair amount of time.
****ing in stations should never have been made a priority over anything else in EVE, but with WOD signed up to, a fair few people saw what was coming... And now it's biting CCP on the ass - I'd day "about time" but i'm almost 100% certain they will ignore most of what's been said, throw out a half-arsed attempt at a fix, then carry on as normal with thee lemmings (sorry, playerbase) left hanging.
These guys passed inept management 101 for sure.
- *Eagerly awaiting Flavien Brebion to hurry the hell up and get Infinity ready to play :) |
Saint Tetrimon
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Posted - 2010.07.31 20:58:00 -
[1199]
Originally by: SIEGE RED You're serious?
QFT
Can't believe that this is still sticky. After 40+ pages one would think that CCP would figure out that you can't ask for votes from your player base when you already ignore the suggestions from the CSM that they voted for.
Just leave it sticky for the next 18 months plz, maybe I'll vote then.
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Mu'n Hurricane
Minmatar Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:02:00 -
[1200]
CCP should read some books about failed companies with no effective system of working with feedback from customers and no desire to change things in services or in hiring policies and current staff. Such companies ignored issues, they made no changes, they innovated not, they went bankrupt.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:18:00 -
[1201]
Originally by: Sha Dar
These guys passed inept management 101 for sure.
not so sure about that - if they are going public (i.e. IPO) then they need some leverage i.e. something venture capitalists finds attractive. CCP has a LOT of executives on the Board of Directors. They even have a CMO (Chief Marketing Officer) - had to look that one up - probably a part of the merger deal. I'm quite sure that Scotty (Ryan Scott Dancey) is very competent at his job (picture here: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-dancey/5/858/8b3) _______________________ P3T Blog: Lessons Learned from New Eden |
Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:29:00 -
[1202]
Originally by: oil we shouldnt try to ruin the game even more. some of us have invested seven years and thousands of hours into their position in the game. some manager is able to make this all worthless with a bad decision. thats scary and should open the eyes of many about the real value of the game.
you mr., you are scary. Your arguments remind me of a beaten housewife always returning to her husband: "But he has always been so nice to me. He even sent me flowers when I was in hospital because he had kicked me down the stairs. I can't give up my home and my children. It would be selfish of me to leave my husband." __________________________________________________
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Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:49:00 -
[1203]
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 31/07/2010 21:50:21
Originally by: Lady Lazy CCP Nathan: "the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
Simply put: CCP currently cares more for increased revenue rather than providing its current player base with a fully working product.
A feature list a mile long will attract plenty of customers, but nobody will stick around once they realize all the features suck. This looks incredibly short-sighted given CCP's MMORPG model, where you need your relatively limited audience who bought the game to stick around for as long as possible -- unless you manage to create a game equivalent to digital crack.
With the level of polish eve's core features have had as of late, I'm finding myself wondering if CCP is either willing to, or capable of, creating content with the requisite quality to get new players to stick around for the long haul.
I sincerely hope everyone in Iceland and Atlanta do so, because I still love this game, and the amount of neglect makes me worry for the game's future.
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Ace Dongface
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:51:00 -
[1204]
This thread has been very helpful... in introducing me to World of Tanks.
+1 to the sentiment expressed here.
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Troll Bridgington
Heavy Metal Machine.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:52:00 -
[1205]
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 31/07/2010 21:50:21
Originally by: Lady Lazy CCP Nathan: "the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
Simply put: CCP currently cares more for increased revenue rather than providing its current player base with a fully working product.
A feature list a mile long will attract plenty of customers, but nobody will stick around once they realize all the features suck. This looks incredibly short-sighted given CCP's MMORPG model, where you need your relatively limited audience who bought the game to stick around for as long as possible -- unless you manage to create a game equivalent to digital crack.
With the level of polish eve's core features have had as of late, I'm finding myself wondering if CCP is either willing to, or capable of, creating content with the requisite quality to get new players to stick around for the long haul.
I sincerely hope everyone in Iceland and Atlanta do so, because I still love this game, and the amount of neglect makes me worry for the game's future.
+1
You get no vote from me, CCP.
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TyphMaster
Heiorun
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:54:00 -
[1206]
wondering how many newspapers, sites, etc.. will need to comment about this big failure before CCP give us the respect we are asking here, which is not a big deal BTW with so many devs working there and so many positions open according to their site. --- Sig Under Construction |
something somethingdark
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:57:00 -
[1207]
Dear CCP : Here is a list of stuff that id like to seen polished/fixed/reiterated/fancymanagerspeakbs before i consider EVE to be a contender for best online game again :
First and foremost -UI
then -Missions -Factional Warfare -Epic Mission -Cosmos -Poses -Sovreignty -Lag everywhere -Industry -Insurance -Ships & Weapons -.... cba to type more ... but thers more ... oh god there is more
Recomended reading incase you (CCP) are at a loss to whats wrong with all that -Game/Story immersion for dummies -UI Design for dummies -Official EVE-Online Forums
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Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:12:00 -
[1208]
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 31/07/2010 22:13:54 I know the people in CCP can create a game worthy of the title "Best Online Game," as it is a title I would have easily granted to Eve Online before. Its the bean-counters who decide where efforts should be spent that I'm wondering about.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:30:00 -
[1209]
I've given up on CCP but this thread has renewed my optimism for the future of EVE. Thanks to my fellow players for expressing what most of us (at least, the hardcore players) feel.
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Mica Petrokov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:35:00 -
[1210]
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson I've given up on CCP but this thread has renewed my optimism for the future of EVE. Thanks to my fellow players for expressing what most of us (at least, the hardcore players) feel.
The future of EvE is tanks, not spaceships.
It's time to bail.
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Max Torps
Nomadic Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:54:00 -
[1211]
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson I've given up on CCP but this thread has renewed my optimism for the future of EVE. Thanks to my fellow players for expressing what most of us (at least, the hardcore players) feel.
I think a lot of players feel the same way, regardless of being hardcore or not. Their feelings are being expressed in multiple threads on multiple sites, blogs and individual actions. Many of whom took action of varying degrees before this thread even popped into existence.
A message of sorts is being conveyed. Hopefully, CCP are looking at this seriously and are engaged in frank discussion internally.
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Ispia Jaydrath
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Posted - 2010.07.31 23:15:00 -
[1212]
Originally by: Max Torps
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson I've given up on CCP but this thread has renewed my optimism for the future of EVE. Thanks to my fellow players for expressing what most of us (at least, the hardcore players) feel.
I think a lot of players feel the same way, regardless of being hardcore or not. Their feelings are being expressed in multiple threads on multiple sites, blogs and individual actions. Many of whom took action of varying degrees before this thread even popped into existence.
A message of sorts is being conveyed. Hopefully, CCP are looking at this seriously and are engaged in frank discussion internally.
If - if - anybody important is paying attention then maybe they will be able to figure out something is wrong. And if that happens then maybe they will "commit" to fixing it. And if that happens maybe they will actually follow through for once.
The way things have been the last year I won't believe it until the results are live on TQ. Too many broken commitments, too many ****ups. |
Xzar Fyrarr
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.07.31 23:25:00 -
[1213]
I was about to vote for CCP but then I lagged out .
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Failscade
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Posted - 2010.07.31 23:48:00 -
[1214]
Confirming CCP are doing my name very hard
Didn't even know this award thingy was going on so voted Conan out of spite and because nudity in games is cool
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Tissaia Black
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:00:00 -
[1215]
voted for Conan as well, been having more fun with it lately than with EVE
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Lady Lazy
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:22:00 -
[1216]
Originally by: Ace Dongface This thread has been very helpful... in introducing me to World of Tanks.
+1 to the sentiment expressed here.
Have been playing world of tanks beta.
Posting to confirm so far i have not ended up in the middle of a large collidable object unable to manoeuvre.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:33:00 -
[1217]
Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 01/08/2010 00:33:13
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig
The response was by an unamed CCP 'source', and was essentially a bunch of marketing BS, so its pretty much worth nothing
The response was from a PR company, not even from a 'real' CCP employee, from this shower of Call U Next Tueday's. World of Tanks closed beta applied for, just waiting for the reply.
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Andy Moo
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:33:00 -
[1218]
Edited by: Andy Moo on 01/08/2010 00:34:07 I'm sure it's been said but **** reading 40-odd pages of a thread ..
Fix the features you have before adding new ones. Give up on the blind insistence to add "Second Life in Space".
I enjoy this game because I can fly a spaceship and shoot ****. When I read a dev blog that mentions "player made character clothing" my heart sinks.
For the love of god fix the things that your player base identify as broken and/or important before adding superfluous new "features".
I used to enjoy the game in the early days of 2003/4 when the majority of CCPs dev teams time was spent fixing things that weren't working as intended. Sadly these days it seems that the devs would rather throw in broken mechanics rather than fixes.
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Eternum Praetorian
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:50:00 -
[1219]
Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 01/08/2010 00:53:05 ARE ANY CCP GUYS STILL READING THIS THREAD?
Please be sure and look here, and pass 40 pages of angry customers onto your overlords.
P.S.
If you buy me a plan ticket, I will fly to CCP HQ and kill the fleet finder for you. That should fix the lag issue. Thx.
--Angry Customer.
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:53:00 -
[1220]
Originally by: Lady Lazy Have been playing world of tanks beta.
Posting to confirm so far i have not ended up in the middle of a large collidable object unable to manoeuvre.
I have, but I tend to suck at driving.
Originally by: Mica Petrokov The future of EvE is tanks, not spaceships.
If this post results in us spending hours in WoT mining iron ore, I'm going to find you and cover your naked body in duct tape. Worst pilot in Goonfleet.
There's a herd of killer rabbits coming this way, and we need your help! |
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cBOLTSON
Reaction Theory Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.08.01 02:22:00 -
[1221]
Edited by: cBOLTSON on 01/08/2010 02:24:17 HAHAHA!
CCP I just dont get you at all. You have what could be one of the best games in the world ever, yet you are letting it slip! EVE is the only game I have ever played with the sound allways off. Are you mad! Sound is a very important issue as it brings depth and immersion.
When I started EVE just as apocrypha came out, lag was a hell of a lot better. My early days in large nullsec fleet battles were enjoyable. Now I cant even go in a 20 v 20 gang without modules lagging, bad response times and even recently my MWD sticking ON.
The UI also needs a tweak/rework.
CCP if I were to vote it would be on Battlefield. Proof that polished features are better than broken ****.
TLDR: LOL @ the cheek of CCP, fix the issues in the game >> Make it GREAT again.
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Karr Matt
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Posted - 2010.08.01 02:48:00 -
[1222]
With all due respect, it probably wasn't the best idea in the world to post this on the same day that *Some Other Company* released it's *Insanely Popular Online PvP Spaceships* title, which will probably be of relevance to many who are currently unhappy subscribers of Eve?
//Going back to *Insanely Popular Online PvP Spaceships"
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HarshMistress
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 03:34:00 -
[1223]
Originally by: Largo Coronet If this post results in us spending hours in WoT mining iron ore, I'm going to find you and cover your naked body in duct tape.
I'm late to the tank party, and fear that I will be left behind. Is this the case?
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Adam C
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 03:47:00 -
[1224]
Edited by: Adam C on 01/08/2010 03:55:46
I got 5 free days to rant about how very very bad the this game is right now. I used to love it.
Current bad implementations are;- No new space to get rid of the cluster *****,- nano age is dead - close range mess warfare - :( - carrier cavavans - jump freighters - jump portals - sovereignty - oh and ccp priorities of not caring about the games vision for the next year, whilst they roll out things that should be further down the priority list ie incarna and dust.
Hmmm need to balance this up and say something nice about ccp.. 2005 was ok
p.s deep core mining inc ftw
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.01 03:52:00 -
[1225]
CCP for the "MASSIVE BALLS AWARD"
have you been reading your own forum? |
Kenpachi Viktor
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:00:00 -
[1226]
Originally by: Master Akira In these few years I have been playing Eve, I had never seen a thread where someone said "I'm leaving Eve" without getting 10 replies with "can I have your stuff???". But this thread has more than 1000 responses in 3 days, many of people cancelling... and no people is laughing except a couple of well identified CCP shills.
Last week, you had a 60+ page threadnought, and even before that, you had a 2000+ "supported" thread in the assembly hall asking nicely about this: Lag, unfinished features, crippling bugs, UI, etc.
So CCP, I have a question you might have missed before:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW
This
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Kazn Antilli
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:06:00 -
[1227]
Originally by: Kenpachi Viktor
Originally by: Master Akira In these few years I have been playing Eve, I had never seen a thread where someone said "I'm leaving Eve" without getting 10 replies with "can I have your stuff???". But this thread has more than 1000 responses in 3 days, many of people cancelling... and no people is laughing except a couple of well identified CCP shills.
Last week, you had a 60+ page threadnought, and even before that, you had a 2000+ "supported" thread in the assembly hall asking nicely about this: Lag, unfinished features, crippling bugs, UI, etc.
So CCP, I have a question you might have missed before:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW
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Karr Matt
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:17:00 -
[1228]
Edited by: Karr Matt on 01/08/2010 04:17:32
Originally by: Kazn Antilli
Originally by: Kenpachi Viktor
Originally by: Master Akira In these few years I have been playing Eve, I had never seen a thread where someone said "I'm leaving Eve" without getting 10 replies with "can I have your stuff???". But this thread has more than 1000 responses in 3 days, many of people cancelling... and no people is laughing except a couple of well identified CCP shills.
Last week, you had a 60+ page threadnought, and even before that, you had a 2000+ "supported" thread in the assembly hall asking nicely about this: Lag, unfinished features, crippling bugs, UI, etc.
So CCP, I have a question you might have missed before:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW
Ten to one it involves Tychus Findlay and Raynor's Raiders.
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:27:00 -
[1229]
If people want to walk in space stations, let them play Star Trek Online.
If people want to play music, dance, and have sex in space stations, let them play Second Life.
I'm here to shoot spaceships and spread misery.
Quit trying to make this game everything for everyone. You're selling in a market where your main competition is Facebook and WoW, and soon to be another Star Wars MMO (that's going to be far more strongly backed than SWG ever was). You're selling a re-wallpapered product from 2003 and yet you're still around because you DIDN'T MESS WITH WHAT WORKED.
Right now, we're playing EVE Online - you're playing Naive Online. Get back on our page.
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:57:00 -
[1230]
Originally by: Master Akira In these few years I have been playing Eve, I had never seen a thread where someone said "I'm leaving Eve" without getting 10 replies with "can I have your stuff???". But this thread has more than 1000 responses in 3 days, many of people cancelling... and no people is laughing except a couple of well identified CCP shills.
Last week, you had a 60+ page threadnought, and even before that, you had a 2000+ "supported" thread in the assembly hall asking nicely about this: Lag, unfinished features, crippling bugs, UI, etc.
So CCP, I have a question you might have missed before:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW
The same thing we do every night, Pinky...
Completely ignore it.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
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Baillif
Red Mist Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 05:12:00 -
[1231]
Edited by: Baillif on 01/08/2010 05:13:34 What really irks me is that they throw money into a console FPS for soon to be antiquated equipment to tie into a game that is still around after 7 years on pc. Who thought that this was a good idea?
How many good FPS's came out this year? Who here can actually remember their names? Who here still actually plays them? You guys are basically building BF2143 barely tying it into an MMO who's player base is ****ED AT YOU, not to mention probably 10 years older on average than the console kiddies you will have to market your product to, and claiming its some genius stroke of originality.
But you know what? You are already committed to your stupid stupid plan so go ahead. I, as well as many others here, will anxiously await the epic flop that game makes and IF YOU ARE LUCKY we will still be around to tell you we told you so.
You should just drop incarna, drop dust, maybe pick incarna back up when you fix the lag or stick to something we actually care about like fixing rockets, fixing the sov system, or curing cancer.
PS MALE REPRODUCTIVE ORGAN
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Thao Bodh
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Posted - 2010.08.01 05:22:00 -
[1232]
Don't think damage control is going to fix this situation so let's switch directly to the blame game. What CCP employee do you think is most responsible for EVE dying? Discuss amongst yourselves
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Neo Gabriel
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.01 05:27:00 -
[1233]
Well now that SC2 is out i finally have something better to do. Playing something of high quality from blizz for a few days and then coming back to eve really gives you some perspective on how **** this UI is.
I am considering liquidating assets for plexes so i can keep "ghost training" my accounts.
The only important question now is:
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 05:28:00 -
[1234]
Originally by: Thao Bodh Don't think damage control is going to fix this situation so let's switch directly to the blame game. What CCP employee do you think is most responsible for EVE dying? Discuss amongst yourselves
I've personally always wondered if all this window dressing is just a cover for the fact that the core game itself simply can't be fixed at this point without serious risk to the current game's state of existence.
As in - would you suffer a full server reset to clean out all the gunk and dust in EVE's seven year old spackled code?
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 05:54:00 -
[1235]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
As in - would you suffer a full server reset to clean out all the gunk and dust in EVE's seven year old spackled code?
Effective map reset, yes, but a full out alt reset would kill the game anyway, there would be no point. Enough people have enough tied up in the game, that a full blow alt wipe server reset would kill EVE from player loss.
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Leon Razor
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.01 06:17:00 -
[1236]
Has CCP made any response to this? At this point I would be happy with "I know you all want us to fix what's in the game, but we don't care and we are gonna add more broken stuff instead." At least then I would know they are being strait with me.
Maybe I'm being harsh, but I've been following the CSM stuff, and reading the CSM's proposals gave me hope that someone knew that things needed to be fixed, and actually might be in a position to do something about it. CCP seems to have replied to some of the outrage over the release of the minuets, but everything is still so vague. If they can't give us reassurance every time a 40+ thread explodes, then I can't really trust they are listening, or care to listen.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.01 07:14:00 -
[1237]
Originally by: Neo Gabriel Well now that SC2 is out i finally have something better to do. Playing something of high quality from blizz for a few days and then coming back to eve really gives you some perspective on how **** this UI is.
So true. It also makes you realise how mediocre all of Eve's graphics are, even the graphics that were fairly recently overhauled look pretty poor.
I'm having more fun playing SC2 than I've had at any point this year in Eve. Way more fun. Just wish I didn't have 8 months of subs left on Othran Alt account is dead in 29 days thankfully.
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Skanthra
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 07:28:00 -
[1238]
I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry after reading this thread.
One thing is for sure though, no vote for you CCP. |
NereSky
Gallente Domination.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 07:47:00 -
[1239]
Originally by: Leon Razor Has CCP made any response to this? At this point I would be happy with "I know you all want us to fix what's in the game, but we don't care and we are gonna add more broken stuff instead." At least then I would know they are being strait with me.
Maybe I'm being harsh, but I've been following the CSM stuff, and reading the CSM's proposals gave me hope that someone knew that things needed to be fixed, and actually might be in a position to do something about it. CCP seems to have replied to some of the outrage over the release of the minuets, but everything is still so vague. If they can't give us reassurance every time a 40+ thread explodes, then I can't really trust they are listening, or care to listen.
Its the Rug effect, CCP has invested loadsa money in a rug of a gargantuan size to sweep things under, then ignore till it go's away
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Angelo427
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.01 08:04:00 -
[1240]
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
CCP, when a serious competitor does face you you will be crushed. Perhaps that's why they're abandoning this already **** poor game...
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 08:51:00 -
[1241]
Originally by: Angelo427
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
CCP, when a serious competitor does face you you will be crushed. Perhaps that's why they're abandoning this already **** poor game...
If only they were making a game to tap that huge contingent of vampire LARPers and emo wannabes.
Oh wai...
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DarthJosh
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:05:00 -
[1242]
voted. actually for eve, even though i think at this point in time you guys don't deserve it for ignoring us and spending all the money for stuff we didn't ask for. (only spending money and time on lag now due to the recent whine fest)
i, somehow, still believe in you lot. for some reason. meh.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:15:00 -
[1243]
Without really substantive, actual, action from CCP, rather then silence or platitudes, I'm finding it hard to justify keeping 3 subscriptions.
It will probably only take another week of CCP taking this course to decide it.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:26:00 -
[1244]
I'm seeing an untapped potential here...
If all the unhappy campers in this thread are leaving and canceling their accounts:
1- there will be less lag
2- can I have your stuff?
Goodbye :-)
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
CeneUJiti
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:39:00 -
[1245]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
If only they were making a game to tap that huge contingent of vampire LARPers and emo wannabes.
Oh wai...
All fantasy themed MMOs end up in direct competition with WOW, aka they die.
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Flashheart
Caldari Dangermouse Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 10:00:00 -
[1246]
I've seen the future, it weighs in at 42 tons and mounts an 88mm....
/bye
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 11:11:00 -
[1247]
The end is nigh. Fa.g.g.o.t developers and empire pubbies rejoice.
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.08.01 11:14:00 -
[1248]
CCP out-sourcing their "yes, we really do care" responses is like comedy perfection.
Well done to who-ever spotted that one.
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Rokkit Kween
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Posted - 2010.08.01 11:38:00 -
[1249]
I think the influx of EVE players to WoT has overloaded their servers. They're having issues at the moment. ================================== One of the many faces of Mandrill twitter|Website|Member of the UEB
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Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.01 11:45:00 -
[1250]
I'm getting "A player with the same name is already in the game" when I try to log into the game.
It's highly annoying as I just spent 250 gold on premium. I don't want to wait 18 months for a fix, anyone able to help me? --
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Cochise
20th Legion Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.01 11:50:00 -
[1251]
Weve turned off Sound Weve turned off Effects Weve turned off Brackets Now how bout you guys turn off the Lag.
Not voting for Eve this time!
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 12:37:00 -
[1252]
Yep no vote for eve.
I dont know if its your scrum development model or what, but this games quality has been drobbing down for a year. Seems like none of your developers really know the code anymore.
Please fix the game, then i will consider if your deserved my vote. Use eve generated income to maintain eve and fix it, dont spend it on uncertain future stuff that may newer bring income. If your serious about eve, i would expect 80% of devs working on eve to improve what we have allready and 20% toying with those future code play projects.
Currently considering if i need all my 7 accounts to do what i do and im still mostly paying them by cash.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 12:39:00 -
[1253]
CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
You should probably get permission from the PR company before you post anything, because there are remarkably few things you can post right now that won't make the community angrier.
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paracidic
Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.01 13:11:00 -
[1254]
I spoke to my sponser. He said that if I voted I would become an enabler. So sorry CCP, I cannot help you with even one tiny vote. But My sponser says if you want help he would be willing to meet with you for a chat.
Lemme know. ***********************************************
Everything ever written by a goon or DS1 member is absolutely factual and should not be challanged in anyway. |
Laps3d P4cifist
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.01 13:14:00 -
[1255]
+1 adding to the negative sentiment against CCP in this thread. I don't really think there's anything I could possibly add apart from an extra post in support of the sentiment here.
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IAmA Narwhal
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Posted - 2010.08.01 14:03:00 -
[1256]
Incarna is only 18 months away? I cant wait to rp as a girl bounty hunter that likes other girls I'm so excited its gonna be epic!
o7
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.01 14:06:00 -
[1257]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
Holy carp. Playing the game itself is now against its own rules.
CCP WAKE THE HELL UP AN LISTEN TO THE THUNDEROUS ROAR OF THE ANGRY THREADNAUGHT!
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RetroVertigo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 14:18:00 -
[1258]
Honestly CCP is just another corporation which is trying to lower its costs (quality) and up its profits (higher ups salary) at the cost of its player base (the people who pay for all this) which are now ****ed off. Frankly this isn't a sustainable business model, you guys aren't Blizzard yet so hows about making a sustainable business model which will not only keep your best asset (this game) in the best position possible, and keep people playing, rather than simply put adds on every site on the internet and hope your short term customers will keep it going.
As for myself I noticed this other thread related to fleet fights...
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1362220&page=1#10
If this is your honest response CCP, then I see no reason to continue to play your game. If the next expansion doesn't fix lag in a noticeable way and restores the game to pre-dominion playability levels I will cancel all my characters and move on to another game, just as easy as that. And I'm very sure I wont be the only one. |
Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 14:34:00 -
[1259]
Seems like CCP is trying very hard now to create their own version of failcascade , dont try so hard ccp folks, you might succeed.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:07:00 -
[1260]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar
Originally by: Thao Bodh Don't think damage control is going to fix this situation so let's switch directly to the blame game. What CCP employee do you think is most responsible for EVE dying? Discuss amongst yourselves
I've personally always wondered if all this window dressing is just a cover for the fact that the core game itself simply can't be fixed at this point without serious risk to the current game's state of existence.
As in - would you suffer a full server reset to clean out all the gunk and dust in EVE's seven year old spackled code?
This^ is something that I've been wondering myself.
EvE is the only thing that CCP has which makes them money, and if CCP management were to realise that Eve can't be fixed , what would they do? I know that I would try to diversify my business so as to be able to survive if Eve no longer is profitable. This makes me think of Dust 514 and World of Darkness.
Possibly they wanted to diversify just because they think they can make money from a console FPS that no one will play (which raises even more questions about their managerial competence).
But the most telling thing, IMO, is the fact that with the lag problem (one of the few bugs that they have actually acknowledged) is still not fixed 6 months after they said that they would fix it, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if they can fix it. I somehow don't think they can.
It might be that they were hoping to have Dust and WoD up and running AND on the road to making them a profit before doing something about Eve, so as to have an emergency financial fallback if Eve goes south (in fact this is the most likely option), but I think current events are catching up with them before they're ready.
Player frustration with the bugs and their unwillingness to fix them, compounded by their own incompetent PR attempts seem to be heading to a future where Eve will crash before they have any financial alternatives.
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:22:00 -
[1261]
Originally by: Bomberlocks EvE is the only thing that CCP has which makes them money, and if CCP management were to realise that Eve can't be fixed , what would they do?
I'd happily pay for Eve 2, providing they always prioritised fixes over new content.
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Joretto Hawisaki
United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:28:00 -
[1262]
Anonymous sources in WIDOT now present their views to this topic.
Quote: ******* > i might go take a dump in their letterbox, and attend court proceedings in 18 months or so...
Quote: ******* > i was going to throw a rock at there window with a piece of attached saying "fix lag"
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:29:00 -
[1263]
Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 01/08/2010 15:29:16 SPAI ZAPPING MAI SUBZCRIPTIONZ!!!1111!!!!!.
PS: Fix the lag CCP, then worry about Space Second Life.
PSS: This is now a WIdot Thread. PSBADPUP > I was trying to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes, until he started firing at me.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:31:00 -
[1264]
Originally by: rootimus maximus
Originally by: Bomberlocks EvE is the only thing that CCP has which makes them money, and if CCP management were to realise that Eve can't be fixed , what would they do?
I'd happily pay for Eve 2, providing they always prioritised fixes over new content.
+1 for this, i rather enjoy game that has its bugs fixed, features improved over to new content.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.01 15:32:00 -
[1265]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
You should probably get permission from the PR company before you post anything, because there are remarkably few things you can post right now that won't make the community angrier.
Lol, I knew that Navigator would do that.
To Navigator I'll say the following with regard to him banning players from big alliances fighting in hisec and causing nodes to fail:
Navigator, in case you haven't noticed, people are cancelling their accounts in droves. You banning people from playing Eve because of a protest action will only accelerate that trend.
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wiztecia
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 16:08:00 -
[1266]
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1360839
It appears that CCP is more worried about playing SC2 then fixing eve...
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Splut Woobs
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Posted - 2010.08.01 16:49:00 -
[1267]
Atm it looks like the people that decide how eve evolves do not actually play it.
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.08.01 16:54:00 -
[1268]
Edited by: BiggestT on 01/08/2010 16:55:49
I'll vote for you when you release a dev blog stating that Incarna and Dust will be put on the backberner and the CURRENT 18 months will be spent improving current content. How the hell do you think Incarna and Dust will work with EVE?? The compounding issues from current lag, bugs, etc. will make them a failed venture anyway!
You get the same amount of votes from me for the amount of dev teams devoted to current Game Balance..
Z E R O
EVE Trivia EVE History
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ALEXANDER GIANTURCO
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Posted - 2010.08.01 17:29:00 -
[1269]
relax guys, eve 2.0 will be coming out pretty soon, it's beta codename is world of tanks.
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Yvon Zypher
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Posted - 2010.08.01 17:37:00 -
[1270]
Originally by: ALEXANDER GIANTURCO relax guys, eve 2.0 will be coming out pretty soon, it's beta codename is world of tanks.
Waiting for my Key, then its -8 accounts for me.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 18:04:00 -
[1271]
Originally by: Yvon Zypher
Originally by: ALEXANDER GIANTURCO relax guys, eve 2.0 will be coming out pretty soon, it's beta codename is world of tanks.
Waiting for my Key, then its -8 accounts for me.
Shattered crystal free beta code
You can thank me later.
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.01 18:09:00 -
[1272]
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto Sent my vote with a rocket.
We'll see when it gets there.
I've been playing this game, off and on and off, since 2003. I have never seen a thread so unified in its negative opinion of CCP or the current state of the game. It's a little amazing.
I'm also not voting for eve, btw. --
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2010.08.01 19:31:00 -
[1273]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Yeah I'll be voting all right matey but it sure as hell won't be for the crapshack of a game that this has turned into, not until you start taking the inherent problems seriously ---
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Hoimette
Minmatar Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 19:31:00 -
[1274]
I voted for eve, in the F#CK CCP thread. As long as you put out trailers of epic 0.0 fights whith tons of ships, while we cant have even small gang 0.0 fights with a hundred total, you are lying to the world. As long as you start a Vote for us cuz we rock thread and then ignore the rage about you sucking you are lying to yourselves. If this was any alliance in the game we would be reveling in your fail cascade, but its the core of the game, which f#cks us all over. Release a Patch that turns off the loot logger and fleet finder and see if that helps. Or write the next patch on the pre-dominion platform and see what happens. Everyone agrees, that Dominion was a negative improvment, so its time to go back to what worked.
If you feel up to it, explain how my 5 accounts are worth less to you than the fool who subs at the end of his free trial. Hm, my $75 every month for the last 6 years... some random fool's $10 at the end of his free trial.... crap, thats a hard choice, and you have chosen poorly. But thats why its called a fail cascade, lots of bad coices in a row, when 1 good choice could save our world... of warcr...um, eve.
I've already sold 2 chars knocking my spy network in half... I just dont see any point in having spies if we CANT HAVE FIGHTS!!!!!! And, no reply, is even worse than lying lip service to placate us. Even if you lie to us, it at least means you care about the time and real money we have invested over the years.
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nunun
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 20:06:00 -
[1275]
FROM THE END OF THIS WORLD I HAVE SOMTHING TO TELL U DEAR CCP VOTING FOR U IS LIKE ........
3aaaaaaaaaaaalaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 3aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrry yamaaaaaaaaaaa`7aneeeeth = fix the ****ing game ffs .......
All best for the good player out there i wish our deam become true when we can fight and do our **** with no lag .... !!!!
All love nun
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.01 21:06:00 -
[1276]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 01/08/2010 21:07:51
Originally by: Nova Tiempo
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
Holy carp. Playing the game itself is now against its own rules.
I'm not surprised at all.
Good thing I don't participate in large fleet fights or I might get banned!
Quick, someone forward that thread off to some gaming sites! Need moar bad press.
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Arcadia Seith
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Posted - 2010.08.01 21:24:00 -
[1277]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
"EVE Online is an open-ended Massively Multiplayer Online Game (MMOG). Most other MMORPGs focus on a structured playing style with predictable outcomes and monotonous leveling. This seemingly innocent fact is why EVE is so different from almost all other MMORPGs, as the players have an incredible impact on how the game develops. "
... looks as though the introduction to the game needs changing now, clearly any 'unpredictable impact' will be punished ...
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Poobsie
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Posted - 2010.08.01 22:09:00 -
[1278]
I too will be cancelling my three accounts until CCP does something about this.
Give us more expansions like Apocrypha! The last two have been a big let down, and the next two are looking worse.
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Gefgarion Ankatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 22:36:00 -
[1279]
Agree with the majority. Will consider voting when the Devs/CEO/Programmers decide to fix the issues and bugs that even they have admitted exist.
Anyone else considering posting links to this thread and the CSM minutes, etc on their Facebook page and their YouTube promotional videos?? I figure if there isn't a real CCP response soon, that might be another good avenue.
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Cpt Flowers
Caldari Tyrans d'Or
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Posted - 2010.08.01 22:43:00 -
[1280]
Edited by: Cpt Flowers on 01/08/2010 22:46:53 hmm I know it's been posted before however... Learn to fix your game. Thank you, that is all.
Edit: canceled 2 accounts as of yesterday
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Casanunda
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.01 22:50:00 -
[1281]
Edited by: Casanunda on 01/08/2010 22:51:09 1 thing, fix your crap CCP,
1 of 2 accounts run out tomorrow, will not be resubscribing that account until a definite improvement in playability is seen. The other account may well follow when it runs out of gametime
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2010.08.01 23:19:00 -
[1282]
Didn't voted for EVE.
I also canceled this (and only) account, after 5 years of subscription.
My reasons: 1. lag 2. macroers and farmers 3. I don't like where EVE is heading atm 4. bored with current game content 5. UI (tired of endless windows repositions) is not fixed after zilion requests. 6. obvious CCP's focus towards new p(l)ayers 7. CCP doesn't keep their promises. SoonÖ anyone? 8. load of other games to play
PS. I'm keepin (loads of) my stuff in case that EVE doesn't die or I change my mind.
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Elder Lemon
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Posted - 2010.08.02 00:43:00 -
[1283]
From my point of view this is either complete arrogance or neglegence, nothing else.
Arrogence- CCP seems to think it has created the most perfect game for online purposes. Taking pride in ones accomplishments is a good thing in most cases but not making changes based on majority player votes is a one way ticket to bad publicity.
Neglegence- CCP thinks that the game is fine as is. no need for fixes or mods. Input is not taken from the paying customers who are the one actualy playing and finding flaws.You dont want to take advice? Fine, then you must take responsibility and find the flaws yourself or make it easier on everyone and let us find them for you. My guess is that this is precisely what is happening. Put a few of the hard core long term gamers in the design office and watch the game slowly be molded into what the community wants.
Those are the only 2 possibilities i cn think of. Let us know which it is, pick one.
These forums seem to be nothing more than a charlie brown cartoon where the people you dont want to hear are portrayed as a dull grey blob of which the language it speaks is "wha waaaa wa waa waaa waaaa...." The only thing they hear is "blah blah blah good game blah blah blah having fun" You want that vote CCP? start listening, sometimes the teacher must learn from the student, and that is your first lesson from the students...
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.08.02 00:48:00 -
[1284]
I'm seeing a pattern here.
CCP says "our numbers show that existing customers with multiple accounts are worthless". Customers say "oh well CCP I guess you need to be shown that existing customers pay you".
It really does seem that the only way the bean counters will tell CCP the truth is if it's put in black and white.
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Del Vikus
Minmatar Torca Antiquities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 01:53:00 -
[1285]
Wow, this is an epic thread.
I signed onto EVE a few months before Dominion. Since then, I have to agree with the majority of the posters: the game has lost track of itself. I really like the concept of the Tyrannis expansion, and I hope it gets fleshed out. But isn't that true of FW also? Fix lag, bugs, and FW, and we'll talk about "Best Of" votes.
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Azzma
D00M. Excessum Messor
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:00:00 -
[1286]
Fix lag. Tyrannis is worthless. Fix lag. Fix lag.
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Nardman
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:17:00 -
[1287]
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
Jesus Christ, is he serious? What the ****?
"YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE FLEETS WHERE OUR HAPPY EMPIRE CAREBEARS WON'T BE AFFECTED LOLZ".
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Tasha Ares
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:29:00 -
[1288]
Are you serious?
The only vote I'll be doing for Eve Online is with my wallet when I let my multiple accounts expire until the staff and resources I pay for with my subscription are applied to the game I play.
Fix the bugs, finish what features were started, and eliminate the lag. If you want to develop pet projects like the Dust Console FPS, or Incarna, appropriate assign staff to those "pet" projects that have absolutely ZERO value to current customers over existing issues.
Love your company, your staff, but if this is the only way to get you to take notice, so be it. |
Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:42:00 -
[1289]
Edited by: Pherusa Plumosa on 02/08/2010 02:46:40
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas CCP's quote of the day: CCP Navigator saying that fleet fights are forbidden as they increase the cost of providing the 'service'.
You should probably get permission from the PR company before you post anything, because there are remarkably few things you can post right now that won't make the community angrier.
oh wow. I thought it was just me who had this idea ^^. But offside the mission hubs and main trade routes, empire is also lagging. What might work is, 0.0 alliances scatter around the main mission and trade hubs like amarr, dodixie, rens, perimeter + mission runner systems and fight on the autopilot routes, since they seem to be reinforced 23/7.
Ninjaedit: CCP Navigator doesn't seem to understand, that this suggestions are not made to lagbomb empire, but to find a solution to get some pvp without fearing to get lagged out, stuck and other post-dominion stuff. __________________________________________________
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.02 02:57:00 -
[1290]
I've been stuck at the voting screen for a week now
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Caan Buhaao
Gallente 72nd Squadron
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:04:00 -
[1291]
Originally by: Hratli Smirks Guys guys
"Excellence"
*rimshot*
We have a winrar. -- sig temporarily busted. kinda like the game. |
Shuckstar
Gallente Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:27:00 -
[1292]
lol not a chance of my vote You are going to fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 03:38:00 -
[1293]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 02/08/2010 03:38:54 Massively Article
Little late to the party, but I'm pretty sure everybody that knows anything about video games, now knows EVE is broken.
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Nemiskas
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Posted - 2010.08.02 04:34:00 -
[1294]
I would like to be as constructive as possible in my criticism in this post as opposed to alot of what I have been reading in this thread so far.
Surely we by now know what issues at hand are to be addressed.
The question is how do we in the most effective way improve communication with CCP in order to get as much as possible cooperation with the player community to aid in the fixing of the very well known problems.
First and foremost would I very much like to be of assistance with testing on singularity. Yet due to the age of my account I am faced with a wrong password message when I try and log into the server.
I will post this in the ideas forum but I will start by suggesting it here.
It would GREATLY improve player contribution if CCP would make a testing account feature. This means that a testing account with maxed out skillpoints in all aspects allows for you to log in the test server and test out every possible feature of the game.
Not only would this feature make it very attractive to join the test server and try out things that would have never before been fully accessible, but it would in all aspects increase the activity (player amount) and the will for players to be a part of testing and fixing the many issues we would all like to see fixed.
Not only do I believe in CCP's ability to rise above the situation they have on their plate, I know and feel from the bottom of every cell of my existence that the playerbase (YOU) can be a part of it all.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.02 04:35:00 -
[1295]
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 02/08/2010 03:38:54 Massively Article
Little late to the party, but I'm pretty sure everybody that knows anything about video games, now knows EVE is broken.
The article states its opinion that the core of the problem is twofold: a)Apparently CCP has never committed resources to CSM issues (This comes as no surprise whatsoever tbh) b)CCP has a huge communication gap with its playerbase (which is also no surprise to any of us following these threads)
What the article doesn't state is the amount of players who have been cancelling accounts. I counted 15 cancelled accounts on two pages of this single thread and in the main Zulu disaster thread I think there was an average of about 4 or 5 per page in the later pages.
This might amount to a few hundred in these threads alone, and it doesn't mirror all those who don't bother to post here (Scrapheap Challenge had a long thread with players unsubbing as well) and it seems to be almost a common thing amongst nullsec alliance players.
This doesn't only influence nullsec play but is compounded by the fact that most nullsec players have hisec alts to do trading etc.
I think the next Quarterly report is either going to omit the total number of active accounts due to the embarrassment that it would cause, or it will provide some very interesting statistics on player numbers and activity in the various regions. We'll see.
If CCP does start to censor statistics, then I'm pretty sure that that will be the end of Eve in the long term.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.02 04:58:00 -
[1296]
Poasting in an epic thread
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Hoimette
Minmatar Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 05:00:00 -
[1297]
CCP Navigator's comment makes me worry about loging in, as certainly just logging in creates work for the server and increases ccp's efforts at maintaining the system, thereby breaking rule #17.
Do his giant granite balls chaffe when he walks?
I liked the idea of fighting in empire around trade hubs as they seem so much more stable with several hundred people in them than lowsec is now with only a hundred. Its not about trying to lag Rens, its about using Rens' inherently more stabe node to do what we were promised in ALL of CCP's trailers which show epic fleet battles.
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Zverofaust
Gallente Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.08.02 05:31:00 -
[1298]
Its ironic that so many people here (well, a few anyway) are voting for DICE because a few years ago when BF2 was released DICE was essentially in the same position CCP is in now; drunk on the sales success of BF2 they immediately launched into hyperactive development mode and pumped out a slurry of crap that utterly bombed while ignoring the enormous problems they'd created. Took them a few years but they managed to get their act together and are back on top.
Anyway, this thread is pretty ****ing hilarious.
___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |
Xeronn
Amarr Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:02:00 -
[1299]
****in epic
CCP manages to get together the most ruthless hardcore PvP comunity of griefing scumbags in MMO history...then decides to set them all red
ffs ccp , you dont stand a chanche :) you will be poded over and over on every MMO site that matters , and you can not handle the ammount of bad press comming your way
noone will touch WoT when they`ll learn its from CCP
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Levaria
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:37:00 -
[1300]
Holy **** CCP...you made me vote for Arma2. Get your act together..... ~Pirates May Cry but Care Bears will die!~
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:45:00 -
[1301]
No. |
Fail Fit
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Posted - 2010.08.02 06:52:00 -
[1302]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Tolling on the forums is not allowed. Thread locked!
- CCP Get A Clue
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Kyle Frost
Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 08:33:00 -
[1303]
Originally by: SIEGE RED You're serious?
Spot on!
And btw - this thread is pure WIN!
-------------- Let the gun do the talking ! |
Andrei Vassaliev
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 08:54:00 -
[1304]
Edited by: Andrei Vassaliev on 02/08/2010 08:56:25 I won't vote for CCP, the game doesn't deserve the award.
I am playing EvE Online since 4 years now, and the lag is worse and worse since Quantum Rise. In fact, the game has nothing to see with the CCP's great videos boasting the ~massive & epic spacefleets fights~.
This simply calls "swindle" ...
EDIT: Wait I'll vote in 18 months, how about that?
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Rakessh
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:09:00 -
[1305]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
Sorry, duude... EvE isn't it right now, maybe 2 years ago when things actually worked for a bit, but unfortunately you guys broke it. Ain't gonna vote for something I think is a pile of crap atm.
CEO Arachnea Phoenix Battalion |
Sissy Peesux
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:24:00 -
[1306]
Originally by: Kayl Breinhar Right now, we're playing EVE Online - you're playing Naive Online. Get back on our page.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:27:00 -
[1307]
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 02/08/2010 09:27:44 Adding link to the Massivley.com article.
Originally by: Liandra Xi For those who haven't seen the articles yet:
EVE Evolved: Dissent in the EVE community http://www.massively.com/2010/08/01/eve-evolved-dissent-in-the-eve-community/
EVE Solicits Player Support, Players Solicit Lag Fix http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix/ http://www.xboxcentre.com/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix.html http://beginnergamer.blogspot.com/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players.html
EVE players trash CCP in European Games Award thread http://rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=3151
Eve Online 'broken' by in-game lag http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257716
Size Doesn't Matter http://noprisonersnomercy.com/2010/07/size-doesnt-matter/
Vote eve online for best game at european games award <insert ironicat here> http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?6645-Vote-eve-online-for-best-game-at-european-games-award-lt-insert-ironicat-here-gt
edit: how typical that the kugu forums name is a censored word here, CCP doesn't really like transparency and having people examine them too closely do they. :O
Iceland, we have a problem! http://teadaze.net/GalNet/
Theres also trackbacks on twitter, as well as reddit, diggit, etc... linkbacks, and various other blog sites also discussing it. If you find more articles about it post them here for the players and CCP and quote this post so they can't ignore it.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:32:00 -
[1308]
Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 02/08/2010 09:34:13 Apocrypha 1.5 was the best eve has ever been, then ccp took repeated dumps on the playerbase and told them to go **** themselves whilst they did stuff no one wanted them to do.
And thus they completely broke the game with horrific lag and have made null sec the worst state its been in for 7 years.
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente SUECHTLER Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:40:00 -
[1309]
Originally by: Ressiv Geez ... that was a brilliant idea ...
I could imagine this going down like this:
CCP manager: ... there is no proof that polished quality sells better then quantity ... CCP Zymurgist: You want me to show you it does ? CCP manager: .. not like you can, but sure, humor me. CCP Zymurgist: Proceeds to posts this
CCP manager cant be quoted after this, forum filter would turn it all into stars anyway.
Yes/No ?
This has just gotten me to thinking...
Is there a possibility that if it did indeed go down like this that maybe it wakes up the management to the serious (!!!) problems in eve at the moment... ----------------------------
Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........
Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:25:00 -
[1310]
The People have Spoken. Read these CCP. PSBADPUP > I was trying to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes, until he started firing at me.
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WaiKin Beldar
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:38:00 -
[1311]
Edited by: WaiKin Beldar on 02/08/2010 10:41:48 I'm not amazed but awed because of the open invitation to spank your ass (hard, I'd say) this thread has turned into, CCP.
Iirc someone said " You can lie to someone during a long time or you can lie to many people during some time but you can't lie to everybody for ever".
Far from being the best Online Game of the year I could give at least, a powerful dozen reasons why is becoming one of the worst, indeed. The funny thing is that you already know them by heart. Shame on you.
Call it addiction, stupidness or whatever you like it but a great part of the playerbase (mainly those of us who live in 0.0) have not cancelled their subs because we're still awaiting some sensible reaction from your side.In fact, we are awaiting that reaction since Dominion.
We'll see in 18 months if you deserve any award.
Till then,
yours sincerely.
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RiotRick
The Perfect Storm
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:48:00 -
[1312]
First year I'm not gonna vote eve. --
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Cyxopyc
Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:50:00 -
[1313]
Massively Article
Good article.
I'd like to say to CCP what I've said many times before. Add less new stuff and do more fixing and improving of what we already have. The unresolved lag problem is indeed weighing heavy on us but so are all the many weaknesses in game play. Things like knowing how far my ship can warp with the capacitor it has left or seeing text notification of the damage my drones do or providing an easy way to know the difference between a BPO and BPC or making it possible to select locked targets by keyboard shortcuts or to unlock a locked target with a keyboard shortcut or adding a 'trash can' to stations so things are not immediately destroyed when a player trashes them or providing corp and alliance community bookmarks for things like POSs or jump bridges... etc... etc... etc...
== Support fixing the EVE UI |
Kinko
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:01:00 -
[1314]
Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
you must be having a ****ing laugh, fix your game first bellend
Quoted for sheer brilliance.
Not voting for EvE, have cancelled all subs, CCP must be having a ****ing laugh.
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soren tores
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:06:00 -
[1315]
/sarcasm I would love to vote eve online as the best game out there, however im stuck at this time i do have not enough strengh to pick up my posting finger. Im expecting to be able to dedicate some time in approx 18 months. /sarcasm off
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Zorlox
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:16:00 -
[1316]
Have not voted for EvE. Bloody cheek to be asked to tbh...
Btw, what's with all the references to 18 months? Am I just being dim?
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KwaLevu
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:27:00 -
[1317]
Originally by: Zorlox Have not voted for EvE. Bloody cheek to be asked to tbh...
Btw, what's with all the references to 18 months? Am I just being dim?
if i read the csm minutes correctly 18 months is the time it takes for them to get dust and station walking patches done.
And i voted for perfect dark not the best game nor the worst BUT AT LEAST IT WORKS!
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Peter XZ
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:30:00 -
[1318]
Edited by: Peter XZ on 02/08/2010 11:30:41 If Eve won this comp..........that would be funny hehehehhee..........hehehe.....heee
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Dream 0n
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:34:00 -
[1319]
I started playing on Dominion.
My fist impressions have been:
- Phenomenal game. Complex, balanced. - A few too many bugs. - Irritating delays e.g. undocking
And with the release of Tyrannis, I've come to the conclusion that something's going a bit wrong with Eve Online, the focus needs to be on quality if this game is to survive. Once customers are gone, they're gone.
In short, I won't be voting. Eve Online probably is still the best game, but I won't be stroking CCP's growing ego this year! CCP DON'T LOSE YOUR EDGE!!!
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Taattii
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:46:00 -
[1320]
Thanks for the heads up on voting!
I voted for Arma2.
Vote for Eve? Why? You are not focusing on the issues at hand so I wont vote for you.
Hope you don't get the award!
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Maldad Asesino
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:57:00 -
[1321]
I've been voting for EVE numerous times on diffrent occations. This time I did not. I'll be looking forward to (hopefully) how CCP will handle this situation and I hope they realize what a peculiar spot they've put themselves into. EVE is nothing without the player base backing it up.
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Fighter55
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:12:00 -
[1322]
Originally by: Mr M
Originally by: Grath Telkin which is counter productive to what we're trying to do here: Force CCP to fix the game, or watch the company burn to the ground.
There is about 500 text in this thread. A the same time there's 42,000 player who is online. 500 out of 42,000 is 1.1%. This might look like something big but it isn't.
Gimme gimme gimme all your stuff
try that equation again but this time count the positive responses vs. the negative., remember you chose between a turd and excrement but its still s**t all the same
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:15:00 -
[1323]
Anyone more waiting for a response? Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Zee Wolf
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:22:00 -
[1324]
I see they just unstickied this thread.
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:22:00 -
[1325]
WE DEMAND ANSWERS!
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:23:00 -
[1326]
Edited by: Miilla on 02/08/2010 12:24:11 They do not deserve to put this award art on their retail box or on their website or articles.
After the CSM fiasco. No thanks. It is bluntly clear CCP are focusing on their Warewolf MMO simulator and Consoles.
We don't want eye candy, well yes we do, but on a solid game. Currently they just want to put lipstick on a pig. It is still a pig but a pig with lipstick. Roll on 2011 for Star Wars Old Republic
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Deleter Meye
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:34:00 -
[1327]
No. Fix fleet battles, thanks.
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Asarus Atreyu
The Kairos Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:35:00 -
[1328]
Originally by: Zee Wolf I see they just unstickied this thread.
Heh, all the negative publicity they're getting from this one thread, i'm surprised they haven't just deleted it.
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:37:00 -
[1329]
The games fine, and it looks great (although it could be better still) - I dunno what you're all whining at. When CCP closes its doors it would be awesome if they keep their forums open so I can watch you all cry cause you have no eve to play.
[SoE:X]
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:37:00 -
[1330]
Edited by: Miilla on 02/08/2010 12:37:14
Originally by: Asarus Atreyu
Originally by: Zee Wolf I see they just unstickied this thread.
Heh, all the negative publicity they're getting from this one thread, i'm surprised they haven't just deleted it.
Wasn't the response they wanted to hear, so they shouldn't have asked the question then :)
They are trying to get this thread to die, so keep bumping this thread on top.
Don't let this thread die :)
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Ibn Taymiyyah
Gallente Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:43:00 -
[1331]
Well, I get little to no effects from the lag, but seriously, the only award you guys deserve is the bad timing award!
Have no clue as to what your PR guy/chick is doing, but he's clueless!
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:45:00 -
[1332]
no way i am voting for eve.
giving them til the winter exspansion to fix at least some of the broken stuff.
If nothing is done by then i will be not be playing
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:46:00 -
[1333]
The voting will be closed at August 11, 2010, 23:59h.
Why u unsticky this thread??? the voting isn't ended yet^^
Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Inara Tyana
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:50:00 -
[1334]
I am unsubbing my accounts, can't believe I wasted so much time on false hope from your empty promises.
*hint ccp: rewrite the entire source code, the thing is a mess and bugs/lag introduced by new features is only going to get worse with time.
Of course your not going to do that, despite how many man hours your devs waste trying to make your new features compliable with the code. Instead you'll keep farming the playerbase for money until the game finally dies.
Unfortunately many of us believed you when you spoke of the "perpetual" mmo in the past.
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B00T INI
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:52:00 -
[1335]
I'll just leave this here... |
Touc hmebits
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:53:00 -
[1336]
Originally by: Inara Tyana I am unsubbing my accounts, can't believe I wasted so much time on false hope from your empty promises.
*hint ccp: rewrite the entire source code, the thing is a mess and bugs/lag introduced by new features is only going to get worse with time.
Of course your not going to do that, despite how many man hours your devs waste trying to make your new features compliable with the code. Instead you'll keep farming the playerbase for money until the game finally dies.
Unfortunately many of us believed you when you spoke of the "perpetual" mmo in the past.
Can I have your stuff? as I really really enjoy EVE and have done for many years.
Touc
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Blood Ghost
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:56:00 -
[1337]
Not voting for eve this year, sorry
Originally by: CCP Shadow
It's over, Prime. *click*
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:01:00 -
[1338]
Originally by: Blood Ghost Not voting for eve this year, sorry
this SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Terrible Lie
Unfortunate Incidents
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:02:00 -
[1339]
Disappointed in the current direction of the game. Voting with my wallet and canceling my two accounts. Will check back in 18 months (assuming, of course, that EVE is around that long, which, given the current state of affairs, is by no means certain).
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:02:00 -
[1340]
Originally by: Asarus Atreyu
Originally by: Zee Wolf I see they just unstickied this thread.
Heh, all the negative publicity they're getting from this one thread, i'm surprised they haven't just deleted it.
QFT
This thread should be epitomized as a shining example for worst "Community PR" disaster ever...
And sure as hell I didn't vote for EVE in its current pitiful state!
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:02:00 -
[1341]
Nice unstickying bro.
Cowardly community rep crew to go with the terrible developers. If your just gonna stick by your stance of "**** you, we will go through with our killing eve plan" just say it, so we can leave.
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Andrei Vassaliev
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:02:00 -
[1342]
Is there an Award for the ½ Best Lagged Game 2010 +, so that we vote for EvE Online?
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:03:00 -
[1343]
this thread is sliding, we cant have that.
Bump.
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:05:00 -
[1344]
Very disappointing that they have time to unsticky the thread, but not time to post realistic timescales for the top 10 (hell, I'll take 5) player issues.
Also: back to the top.
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Rhoan Leigh
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:11:00 -
[1345]
NOT voting for EVE. NOT resubbing. NOT letting threadnought slip away.
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Tiberious Hook
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:27:00 -
[1346]
Online game of the year??
You kidding???
Sorry CCP, but your game is not an award winning game at the moment, it was, and we all hope it will be again.
Oh, and un-sticking the thread will not make it go away... We are the sleeping giant, and we are awake!
PLEASE CCP, take this threadnaught to heart..
Death is my Gift, I give it to you freely, whether you want it or not, For death is my gift. |
Miilla
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:28:00 -
[1347]
It's really a bad sign when posting on a forum is more fun than playing the game itself :)
Take a hint CCP.
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:29:00 -
[1348]
"Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all who embrace evil. In the name of the gods, ship shall be built to carry out warriors amongst the stars and we will spread Thread-Bump-age to all the unbelievers. The power of the Bumpers will be felt far and wide and the wicked shall be vanquished."
The end is near CCP. What shall you do next? PSBADPUP > I was trying to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes, until he started firing at me.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:32:00 -
[1349]
Voted EVE!
\O/
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Xiomaraa
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:32:00 -
[1350]
No thx, 1) Lag 2) Bugs 3) not annonymous 4) Un-stickying this post.
CCP you need a DCU T3 really. I don't know the reason for the unsticky but clearly it falls wihtin the last DEV blog.. oeps we post / unsticky before we think what the consequence will be.
oh wait that is what incara and dust and PI were...
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PuffnSnuff
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:33:00 -
[1351]
Don't let this thread go away! Keep the bumping! Can't believe CCP actually was wanting us to vote...
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Dograzor
The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:38:00 -
[1352]
Shame for the unsticky.
Bigger PR disaster ever. Massively picked it up too. -
"We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value" |
Shometo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:41:00 -
[1353]
This relationship is starting to go sour, now your asking me to give you a vote in which we both know you do not deserve it. Tell ya what, give me 18 months free subscriptions and I will give you the vote, deal?? No?? care to explain wtf not then?
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:42:00 -
[1354]
unstickying your painful failure in the hope it will go away?
tut tut, way to incriminate yourselves further.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:44:00 -
[1355]
CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:45:00 -
[1356]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
I don't know about you but I just pay to play on Forum MMO.
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Blood Ghost
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:46:00 -
[1357]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
People complain because they care!
Originally by: CCP Shadow
It's over, Prime. *click*
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:46:00 -
[1358]
Originally by: Blood Ghost
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
People complain because they care!
People complain because they don't get things their way. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:47:00 -
[1359]
it's un stickied because voting is over
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:48:00 -
[1360]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
We're not. If there was a half-decent alternative sandbox space mmo, CCP would be bankrupt already. However that is a dangerous numbers game to play, acting like they are now is not something we will forget, and when a competitor inevitably DOES show up, we're all gone like yesterday.
In addition to that, just because there is no alternative does not make us hypocrites for demanding the "excellence" and quality or service CCP has promised us over and over again.
Your conclusion is faulty.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:49:00 -
[1361]
Originally by: RaTTuS it's un stickied because voting is over
It is far from over, it ends on August 11th at midnight derwood.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:51:00 -
[1362]
Originally by: Hulkageddon Jackpot
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
We're not. If there was a half-decent alternative sandbox space mmo, CCP would be bankrupt already. However that is a dangerous numbers game to play, acting like they are now is not something we will forget, and when a competitor inevitably DOES show up, we're all gone like yesterday.
In addition to that, just because there is no alternative does not make us hypocrites for demanding the "excellence" and quality or service CCP has promised us over and over again.
Your conclusion is faulty.
So you're refusing to vote for them on Best MMO because there isn't an MMO that rivals them? Isn't that the entire ****ing point of a Best MMO vote? _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Tiberious Hook
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:54:00 -
[1363]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
I'm not saying there is a better MMO out there. I'm saying EVE online, in its current form, is NOT award worthy.
I love this game, and will not be canceling my accounts. I seriously hope CCP reassess their priorities, and put some DEV teams on fixing the current stuff, as opposed to introducing new stuff.
Death is my Gift, I give it to you freely, whether you want it or not, For death is my gift. |
Towaoc
Caldari Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:54:00 -
[1364]
Having played the game since beta, and having played other games before it and along side it, I am extremely impressed with what the CCP team has been able to accomplish and deliver in EVE Online. Are there challenges? Is there room to improve? Of course. And the team is methodically taking steps to do so, and having great, measurable success each step of the way. Remember, the CCP team is charting new terretory on several fronts with the game. A win in this competition would be well-deserved.
Give the CCP team the recognition they deserve. Vote for EVE!
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:54:00 -
[1365]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Hulkageddon Jackpot
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
We're not. If there was a half-decent alternative sandbox space mmo, CCP would be bankrupt already. However that is a dangerous numbers game to play, acting like they are now is not something we will forget, and when a competitor inevitably DOES show up, we're all gone like yesterday.
In addition to that, just because there is no alternative does not make us hypocrites for demanding the "excellence" and quality or service CCP has promised us over and over again.
Your conclusion is faulty.
So you're refusing to vote for them on Best MMO because there isn't an MMO that rivals them? Isn't that the entire ****ing point of a Best MMO vote?
It's called a protest vote.
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:55:00 -
[1366]
Originally by: Towaoc Having played the game since beta, and having played other games before it and along side it, I am extremely impressed with what the CCP team has been able to accomplish and deliver in EVE Online. Are there challenges? Is there room to improve? Of course. And the team is methodically taking steps to do so, and having great, measurable success each step of the way. Remember, the CCP team is charting new terretory on several fronts with the game. A win in this competition would be well-deserved.
Give the CCP team the recognition they deserve. Vote for EVE!
Post with your dev.
Not voting Eve.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:56:00 -
[1367]
Originally by: Tiberious Hook
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
I'm not saying there is a better MMO out there. I'm saying EVE online, in its current form, is NOT award worthy.
I know i'm simplifying things a bit, but surely if "There is not a better MMO out there" then it IS award worthy? The two statements completely contradict each other. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.02 13:56:00 -
[1368]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Hulkageddon Jackpot
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
We're not. If there was a half-decent alternative sandbox space mmo, CCP would be bankrupt already. However that is a dangerous numbers game to play, acting like they are now is not something we will forget, and when a competitor inevitably DOES show up, we're all gone like yesterday.
In addition to that, just because there is no alternative does not make us hypocrites for demanding the "excellence" and quality or service CCP has promised us over and over again.
Your conclusion is faulty.
So you're refusing to vote for them on Best MMO because there isn't an MMO that rivals them? Isn't that the entire ****ing point of a Best MMO vote?
If there was a vote for "least **** mmo" then they'd get my vote but voting for "the lesser of two evils" isn't my style. Hence, canceled sub, trying to find something else to play, god knows what at this point... prolly the x series or back to older games like capitalism plus. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:00:00 -
[1369]
Originally by: Towaoc [...] Give the CCP team the recognition they deserve. Vote for EVE!
What for? Increasingly worse lag for over half a year now? Throwing (Occasionally somewhat useful?) new content at the game without fixing known issues that date back YEARS? Chest-beating about their awesome capacity to host "massive fleet fights" when even mere 30 vs. 30 battles make you experience module lag sometimes? More posturing about making lag "the no. 1 priority" when allocation of in-house resources shows that the new expansion (with yet new "awesome" content ) gets more love than all game-stability features/projects (including known bugs) together?
Now what was the point again? Why not vote for EVE because it simply is NOT award-worthy ATM, right?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:01:00 -
[1370]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey If there was a vote for "least **** mmo"
Least **** is no different than Best, it's only different wording in order to give the illusion of difference as if to paint it in a different light. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:01:00 -
[1371]
Originally by: Blane Xero I know i'm simplifying things a bit, but surely if "There is not a better MMO out there" then it IS award worthy? The two statements completely contradict each other.
If one of my employees is better than all the others, but is also tardy, rude to customers and steals, are they worthy of receiving the employee of the month award? Of course not - they're getting fired.
He's saying that he thinks Eve is relatively better than other MMOs, but in absolute terms doesn't meet the standard required to get his vote.
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Karoll Borman
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:03:00 -
[1372]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Hulkageddon Jackpot
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
We're not. If there was a half-decent alternative sandbox space mmo, CCP would be bankrupt already. However that is a dangerous numbers game to play, acting like they are now is not something we will forget, and when a competitor inevitably DOES show up, we're all gone like yesterday.
In addition to that, just because there is no alternative does not make us hypocrites for demanding the "excellence" and quality or service CCP has promised us over and over again.
Your conclusion is faulty.
So you're refusing to vote for them on Best MMO because there isn't an MMO that rivals them? Isn't that the entire ****ing point of a Best MMO vote?
Just give up, man, don't you see no one gets it?
They are just idiots, that's it.
They will continue to play a game they don't like, because they are idiots.
"We complain, because we care" "We won't vote, because we care" ?!?!? WTF is this crap?
How can you love and care pixels?
Go play other games, what's with all the drama? If you pay to play EVE and you don't receive EVE, why do you continue to play it? Is that some kind of self-punishment or something?
GTFO, people, dump the "broken" EVE and go play World of Tanks, what's the big deal?
Did you even read their FAQ? Did you see the "bonuses which will not give advantages to players" part?
Exactly how long do you think those bonuses which you would pay with real money won't affect the real gameplay?
Why is everyone so stupid?
You all make me sick. Really. I really thought some of the posters here for "elite badasses"... Really.
But you are all sick, people. Really. And you all need help. Hurry up, before it's too late. I'm telling you this, because I love you all, because you are all, in the end, humans.
Seek help, people.
"Loving World of Tanks, not voting for EVE"... <-- WTF is that gay line?!?
Jeez...
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Serotta Ortot
Gladiators of Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:04:00 -
[1373]
bumping for epic lolz..
now if only i can get in to the World of Tanks closed beta
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:04:00 -
[1374]
I think its time to invoke Godwin's Law.
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Tiberious Hook
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:07:00 -
[1375]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Tiberious Hook
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
I'm not saying there is a better MMO out there. I'm saying EVE online, in its current form, is NOT award worthy.
I know i'm simplifying things a bit, but surely if "There is not a better MMO out there" then it IS award worthy? The two statements completely contradict each other.
So, if there are 2 bad products out their, then which everyone is less bad should win an award??
Is that what your saying??
So, between the Ford Edsel and Ford pinto, which is car of the year?
Seriously, your argument is flawed.
I want EVE to survive, expand even, but at a maintainable pace, with all its parts working as advetised. This needs to be a wake up call for the big man to think about where EVE came from and where it's going.
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Towaoc Remember, the CCP team is charting new terretory on several fronts with the game.
Not really. It is worth doing some research, nothing of or for Incarna or Dust is new in any way or form, that's just marketing - regardless of scale. They don't even need to do that tbh. It adds to the sentiment of "spin" which can lead to overexposure, even in EVE.
Yes, they have come a long way. And yes, they have built something incredibly strong. But somewhere along the ride, something changed among them, something that created a bit of a combination of cubicle syndrome and generation gap. With the result of one by one each niche in the game becoming exposed to what until that point was only a marginal symptom.
I'm half tempted to take your post as a troll btw, because of the phrase "the team is methodically taking steps to do so, and having great, measurable success each step of the way". If you believe this, you might want to apply to CCP. If not, then kudos, you've managed to get the general gist of a few years worth of awareness and sentiment evolution across a wide variety of game niches and gaming communities. This totally independant obviously of the "oops" moments of Zulupark, Soundwave and some other painful posts . Yes, there's lots of people hard at work at CCP, but you have to wonder, how is that going to yield sustainable results if at the top they've got no idea on the immersion, only listen to that what they want to hear, and only get fed information that does not rock the boat.
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:09:00 -
[1377]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Blood Ghost
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
People complain because they care!
People complain because they don't get things their way.
Haha nice try.
So, let's say your ISP has a custom of doing traffic shaping, they have bandwidth caps, the service drops randomly from time to time and their customer service is inexistant, but just because there is no better ISP on the market you are going to give them a prize as the BEST ISP out there, therefore empowering them and giving them excuses for NOT fixing what is wrong? Good way of thinking you have there Mr. Quell.
We are being asked to vote for the Best MMMO, not for the less crappy one.
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Kage Toshimado
The Logistical Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks
Hey Kage, good to see you're still around (well, for a few more days anyway). On the first toon I had in Eve, a few days into starting Eve, you stole an unanchored container that my ceo at the time had just dropped out of his Itty in Oursalaert, and warped back to station. I remember us being all wtf about it and all of us nubs promising to "get our revenge". After a while I came to realise how funny it was and it was one of the things that made me continue playing at the time.
Sad to see you leave Eve and I would be leaving too, except I think I'll get what I still can out of the game while it's still there. This because I don't think it'll be here in 2 years, tbh.
Haha! The people I've gotten to interact with is the main reason why I'll miss EVE to be honest. Sure I like flying around in gangs and blowing stuff up, but it's the people I've done it with and the memories it's created that makes it so hard to leave EVE.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:18:00 -
[1379]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey If there was a vote for "least **** mmo"
Least **** is no different than Best, it's only different wording in order to give the illusion of difference as if to paint it in a different light.
Ummm...just because your the ONLY game in town doesn't make you the BEST game in town. For the record, I didn't vote for eVe...I didn't vote against it either.
btw...your bridge called, it misses its troll and wants you to come home.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Luthenis
Amarr The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Luthenis on 02/08/2010 14:20:37 CCP has damage control IV i see
BTW: Bump... waiting for a response
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:25:00 -
[1381]
Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 02/08/2010 14:26:36
Originally by: AtheistOfFail "Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all who embrace evil. In the name of the gods, ship shall be built to carry out warriors amongst the stars and we will spread Thread-Bump-age to all the unbelievers. The power of the Bumpers will be felt far and wide and the wicked shall be vanquished."
The end is near CCP. What shall you do next?
Self quote for a free bump...
Originally by: Luthenis Edited by: Luthenis on 02/08/2010 14:20:37 CCP has damage control IV i see
BTW: Bump... waiting for a response
Almost 1.8k replies and noone had mentioned that one? PSBADPUP > I was trying to salvage a minmatar wreck for 10 minutes, until he started firing at me.
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Barathrum Zinfandel
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:26:00 -
[1382]
Ask me in 18 months again.
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:26:00 -
[1383]
Originally by: Serotta Ortot bumping for epic lolz..
now if only i can get in to the World of Tanks closed beta
Shattered Crystal has instant beta keys.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:28:00 -
[1384]
Originally by: Master Akira
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Blood Ghost
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
People complain because they care!
People complain because they don't get things their way.
Haha nice try.
So, let's say your ISP has a custom of doing traffic shaping, they have bandwidth caps, the service drops randomly from time to time and their customer service is inexistant, but just because there is no better ISP on the market you are going to give them a prize as the BEST ISP out there, therefore empowering them and giving them excuses for NOT fixing what is wrong? Good way of thinking you have there Mr. Quell.
We are being asked to vote for the Best MMMO, not for the less crappy one.
If its the only ISP then it cannot be Best. Eve is not the Only MMO. This is not a vote for "Best Sandbox Space MMO" It's best MMO. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:31:00 -
[1385]
Le Bump.
I would just like to thank CCP for being in touch with it's player base and being honest and realistic with us. Oh wait no.
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Malevolent Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:37:00 -
[1386]
Bravo for unsticking this thread, CCP. You sure know how to solve public rage. I'm surprised it wasn't locked for spam.
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Serotta Ortot
Gladiators of Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:37:00 -
[1387]
Originally by: Gladys Pank I would just like to thank CCP for being in touch with it's player base and being honest and realistic with us. Oh wait no.
I see what you did there
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:47:00 -
[1388]
Blatant attempt to bury bad news?
My opinion of CCP just keeps on dropping, no wonder you can't hire any competent programmers. |
Morrow Borric
Minmatar Morrow Prime Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:47:00 -
[1389]
Edited by: Morrow Borric on 02/08/2010 14:47:43 The bumps, i sense there will be many.
also ------------------------------------------ "I used to play Eve Online because I enjoyed how it made me feel, now I play to stop from getting sick." |
Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:47:00 -
[1390]
If you send me 25mil ISK I will vote for EVE Online...
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Sol Mahon
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.02 14:59:00 -
[1391]
Hmm lots of whining.
Is somebody going to do something about it?
Organise a few huge fleet fights, the kind of stuff CCP say Tranquility can handle but you know it can't, invite some of those "Reporters" from the gaming news sites (on a trial account) that are taking an interest in this to watch Tranquility die. Record videos of Tranquility in its darkest hour, and post them on Youtube.
Prove to everyone that Tranquility cannot do what CCP say it can do, be loud, be public, show the community and CCP why they should not win this award.
You and/or your Alliance may have the power to end lag this weekend, so, are you going to sit here and whine or do something about it?
Hopefully CCP will be on the ball, and may get some interesting testing data out of the whole... event.
I don't think all the people posting here have the organizational skills to do the above, prove me wrong.
Change often comes through action, rarely through words.
...or sit here and cry pointlessly for the next 18 months, your call.
As much as I hate to end this on a "meme" Proof or STFU & HTFU. |
Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sol Mahon Hmm lots of whining.
Is somebody going to do something about it?
Organise a few huge fleet fights, the kind of stuff CCP say Tranquility can handle but you know it can't, invite some of those "Reporters" from the gaming news sites (on a trial account) that are taking an interest in this to watch Tranquility die. Record videos of Tranquility in its darkest hour, and post them on Youtube.
Prove to everyone that Tranquility cannot do what CCP say it can do, be loud, be public, show the community and CCP why they should not win this award.
You and/or your Alliance may have the power to end lag this weekend, so, are you going to sit here and whine or do something about it?
Hopefully CCP will be on the ball, and may get some interesting testing data out of the whole... event.
I don't think all the people posting here have the organizational skills to do the above, prove me wrong.
Change often comes through action, rarely through words.
...or sit here and cry pointlessly for the next 18 months, your call.
As much as I hate to end this on a "meme" Proof or STFU & HTFU.
Those vids would become viral faster than I BACKTRACED IT!
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:05:00 -
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Ah, I see CCP have decied that this thread will sink quietly out of sight if they unsticky it. Might work if there wasnt a hoarde of unsatisfied players staring at it, dozens of mmo/gaming news sites picking it up, and if eve in general wasnt plagued with lag, node death and unresponsivnessivity...
You cant sink a threadnaught quietly. Wonder how long it will be before they doomsday it and then tell us all their logs show nothing? And how loud will the backlash for THAT be?
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:08:00 -
[1394]
i loled when i read the OP.
Alsos you want ot bring more customers via Incarna/Dust when your servers and code cant upkeep current playerbase , ARE YOU ******ED ?
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Marlon Shakespeare
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:09:00 -
[1395]
Please sticky this thread!
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:13:00 -
[1396]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey If there was a vote for "least **** mmo"
Least **** is no different than Best, it's only different wording in order to give the illusion of difference as if to paint it in a different light.
No, you're straight out wrong. There's a GIANT difference and that's what I hate about the computer games industry. It's rarely "we strive to be the best" and more "we strive to be slightly less **** that the competition"
There are far too many apt Henry Ford quotes out there that people these days seem to miss. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:19:00 -
[1397]
Think we can keep this thread bumped for 18 months ? Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:21:00 -
[1398]
Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 02/08/2010 15:21:43 Depends on how long till ccp gives their official stance of either "**** you, we don't care about you old players anymore" or "okay, we give, we will fix stuff"
The negative publicity of eve will only mount as time goes on, and the more we email online news outlets about this, the more it eats into ccps profits.
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Sombike
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Session Changes
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:21:00 -
[1399]
Originally by: Imweasel09 Seems zymurgist drew the short straw when they were deciding who should post this.
Hahahahaaa
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 15:22:22
Originally by: Sol Mahon Organise a few huge fleet fights, the kind of stuff CCP say Tranquility can handle but you know it can't, invite some of those "Reporters" from the gaming news sites (on a trial account) that are taking an interest in this to watch Tranquility die. Record videos of Tranquility in its darkest hour, and post them on Youtube.
PS: DO NOT announce the event(s) on the forums!
Ye'llo? |
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:24:00 -
[1401]
18 months? cant say?
18 pages at a time? very much possible
allso, free bump! btw
100 mil from me to the last person that posts here before CCP locks it
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Toanfoal
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:27:00 -
[1402]
Originally by: Louis deGuerre Think we can keep this thread bumped for 18 months ?
Most of the people bumping this thread will have quit long before that, I'd imagine.
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Towaoc
Caldari Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:29:00 -
[1403]
Edited by: Towaoc on 02/08/2010 15:30:37
Originally by: iP0D
Yes, they have come a long way. And yes, they have built something incredibly strong. But somewhere along the ride, something changed among them, something that created a bit of a combination of cubicle syndrome and generation gap. With the result of one by one each niche in the game becoming exposed to what until that point was only a marginal symptom.
Interesting observation, and other points well-taken. I suspect that growth, as much as anything, is taking its toll right now. As customers, we have some exposure to the marketing, customer support and operational challenges that the team is facing. Less evident, and ideally totally transparent, to most customers are the organizational, administrative, budgetary, legal and ethical issues that compound with growth. These issues have a tendency to inhibit and distract a team from the creative process. The fact that CCP is continuing to push forward with improvements and enhancements to the game suggests to me that they are doing a good job of overcoming these internal growth challenges.
Separately, it is common for any customer base to voice their issues and concerns much more loudly than their satisfaction with a given service or product. This can take its toll on an organization, especially when administered in extreme doses, as we seem to have going on here and now. We would all do well for the game, the CCP team, and ourselves to take the time to acknowledge the incredible accomplishments made in the game thus far, and perhaps to frame any criticisms that we might have more constructively.
My vote is with EVE.
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Sol Mahon
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:32:00 -
[1404]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 15:22:22
Originally by: Sol Mahon Organise a few huge fleet fights, the kind of stuff CCP say Tranquility can handle but you know it can't, invite some of those "Reporters" from the gaming news sites (on a trial account) that are taking an interest in this to watch Tranquility die. Record videos of Tranquility in its darkest hour, and post them on Youtube.
PS: DO NOT announce the event(s) on the forums!
I am not announcing anything, I'm recomending something, It doesn't matter anyway, it will never happen. |
Morrow Borric
Minmatar Morrow Prime Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:36:00 -
[1405]
Paging CCP damage control to GC ------------------------------------------ "I used to play Eve Online because I enjoyed how it made me feel, now I play to stop from getting sick." |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:38:00 -
[1406]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey No, you're straight out wrong. There's a GIANT difference and that's what I hate about the computer games industry. It's rarely "we strive to be the best" and more "we strive to be slightly less **** that the competition.
Best. Noun. "One that surpasses all others."
Thats all it means, same with Least ****. One can strive to be the least **** and still be the best. You're just frothing what you want Best to mean; Best does not imply one product is any magnitude of quality over the next. Just that it is better. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.02 15:51:00 -
[1407]
probably gonna be locked soon for excessive bumping, but hey at least it'll end blane xero's white knighting and arguing of semantics with his dictionary.
CCP fix the game its in a horrible state
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Megingrimmr
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:02:00 -
[1408]
People are quitting left and right :/ it's a shame it had to come to this.
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:07:00 -
[1409]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey No, you're straight out wrong. There's a GIANT difference and that's what I hate about the computer games industry. It's rarely "we strive to be the best" and more "we strive to be slightly less **** that the competition.
Best. Noun. "One that surpasses all others."
Thats all it means, same with Least ****. One can strive to be the least **** and still be the best. You're just frothing what you want Best to mean; Best does not imply one product is any magnitude of quality over the next. Just that it is better.
I got to wonder if you really believe this or you are just trolling.
Or maybe you are really one of Quell's underlings, in which case... keep up the good work! you just should try to be more subtle, it might work better
When your workmates finally come back from vacation, tell them that we are still waiting for them here
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:10:00 -
[1410]
Originally by: Master Akira trolling
Took someone far too long to come to this conclusion. It's me for christ sake. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:17:00 -
[1411]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Master Akira trolling
Took someone far too long to come to this conclusion. It's me for christ sake.
:hugs:
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Undertow Latheus
Minmatar Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:19:00 -
[1412]
Edited by: Undertow Latheus on 02/08/2010 16:20:11 No. You're letting your flagship product, which we all pay to play, rot while you develop Second Life in Space and a console exclusive FPS. Hopping on the bandwagon for "Ask me again in 18 months"
Also, World of Tanks is indeed awesome, and Curse is giving away beta keys here.
Edit: And yes I'm leaving EVE for WoT. A free to play game. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
Garett No'Jubai
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:22:00 -
[1413]
Originally by: Undertow Latheus Edited by: Undertow Latheus on 02/08/2010 16:20:11 Edit: And yes I'm leaving EVE for WoT. A free to play game.
Can I have your stuff?
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:34:00 -
[1414]
Edited by: Nova Tiempo on 02/08/2010 16:36:58 In response to annother thread...
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Back then we had topics that said the sky was falling and we had our share of forum drama too, but this does look different to me. It clearly goes beyond the issue of lag and the content of the expansions. I thought Nyphur article was throught provoking for me (and I tried to read it from a non CCP perspective as much as possible).
Now just to make it clear, this is no official CCP post but just my personal impression and thoughts. I do think there is a bigger gap between players and developers than there used to be for various reasons which isn't helpful for anyone either.
Does this imply (above disclaimer aside) that the devs might deign to respond to counter the "bigger gap between players and developers"?
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DeathCanWait
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:40:00 -
[1415]
i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve. You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.
Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:42:00 -
[1416]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 02/08/2010 16:46:32
Originally by: DeathCanWait i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve. You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.
Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
FYI...its been 2 "have to be subscribed to get" expansions since things got broken. Go back to W.O.W...they need moar trolls there.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Indigosi
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:42:00 -
[1417]
Originally by: DeathCanWait If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
or not..
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:45:00 -
[1418]
Originally by: DeathCanWait i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve. You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.
Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
It isn't free, its paid for by our regular subscription. You talk like we are privlidged or something, No, CCP are privlidged that we PAY THEM. So lets just clear that up here shall we and not be under the illusion that we "free" expansions. We don't. We pay for em. It is a game as a service, a subscription service, now if you want it the other way go to Guild Wars.
If they didn't update it, they would have no customers subscribing to old sh't, period.
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:57:00 -
[1419]
Edited by: Captain Mung on 02/08/2010 16:56:58
Originally by: DeathCanWait i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve. You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.
Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
Of course we should vote for EvE as the best game in the universe when it has awesome features like these!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxbuiUlU47I
PS The internet grammar in your post made me laugh: "u'r" instead of "ur", apparently stupid internet lingo has now taken a tangent to ******ation.
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:58:00 -
[1420]
Edited by: Stick Cult on 02/08/2010 16:58:52
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: DeathCanWait i will be perfectly honest here: all u whiners can go and suck the milk from a dead cow while playing a game better than eve. You idiots must understand that every game out there had its ups and downs .... wow has crashes and mega lags in wintergrasp ... lineage kept failing on mass sieges ... even CoD is filled with hacks and ****.
Just because CCP failed with its latest free expansion doesn`t have to mean that the game sucks or is broken ... for me at least its great and i love it. If u don`t like it GTFO ... if u`r playin it .. vote for it!
It isn't free, its paid for by our regular subscription. You talk like we are privlidged or something, No, CCP are privlidged that we PAY THEM. So lets just clear that up here shall we and not be under the illusion that we "free" expansions. We don't. We pay for em. It is a game as a service, a subscription service, now if you want it the other way go to Guild Wars.
If they didn't update it, they would have no customers subscribing to old sh't, period.
Actually it is free, regardless of where they get the money to pay for it from. Even if you unsubscribe, you can still download the patch...
edit: and (almost) all of you are ****ing ******ed. STFU, and HTFU.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:01:00 -
[1421]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 17:05:41 Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 17:03:53
Originally by: Miilla If they didn't update it, they would have no customers subscribing to old sh't, period.
It has been nothing but 'old ****' for a fair while now, aside from the odd gift ship that does almost nothing useful.
T3 cruisers were a good addition, but that was... what, a year ago now?
There's been so few major improvements or additions since Apocrypha. The odd shiny tide-me-over features aside. And the new sov... good idea gone very wrong right there.
Originally by: Stick Cult HTFU.
I'm still here. Though I don't do large scale warfare, so that might be a moot point.
Quote: [. . .] aside from the odd gift ship that does almost nothing useful.
If only the Primae had been a dedicated ORE salvage boat. Such a waste of the ship model.
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:05:00 -
[1422]
Did this thread lose its sticky?
I don't think it needed one, but I thought it did have one.
Personally I think CCP should move this post and other similar posts to a "Opinion Forum" and leave this forum for discussing Eve in game.
TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:10:00 -
[1423]
Originally by: Captain Mung
Of course we should vote for EvE as the best game in the universe when it has awesome features like these!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxbuiUlU47I
This...I lol'd!
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:18:00 -
[1424]
What a joke. Funny thread though.
Voted for conan
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:19:00 -
[1425]
We need to keep bumping this thread to remind CCP of their massive degree of hubris. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:23:00 -
[1426]
Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 17:24:04
Originally by: Bellum Eternus We need to keep bumping this thread to remind CCP of their massive degree of hubris.
Couldn't agree more.
I wonder how many votes EVE has gotten so far. Will we only find out after the voting is over?
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Vicar2008
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:30:00 -
[1427]
Seriously though CCP Zymurgist did someone bet you to make that post, or when did you facepalm by end of Page 1?
Voting for something else also in protest.
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Calistai Huranu
Carebears with Guns
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:32:00 -
[1428]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 02/08/2010 17:24:04
Originally by: Bellum Eternus We need to keep bumping this thread to remind CCP of their massive degree of hubris.
Couldn't agree more.
I wonder how many votes EVE has gotten so far. Will we only find out after the voting is over?
And of course seeing how many votes Conan got, would very much like to see how the voting went following this thread's beginning.
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achoura
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:37:00 -
[1429]
Edited by: achoura on 02/08/2010 17:44:41 When I have to wait 18 months to 2 years for bug fixes, I see no reason why any developer should receive any award, unless it's for incompetence.
2 years ago You gave me 3 months of lag free 1000 man fleet fights. 18 months ago you gave me horrid lag killing both 0.0 and lowsec fleets. Toady it's possible to have 4-500 man fights with lag in 0.0, taking a 50 man gang into lowsec causes more lag than fleets in 0.0. You broke my game then chose to add new features for 2 years instead of fixing what was actually working as advertised.
The idea that you've hired a PR company for damage control is as foolish as your decision to ignore known problems. The people who care are right here, so paying another company to continue your lies/pretend there haven't been problems in eve for 2 years is close to a joke. The notion that you can cover it up, bring new players into eve and hope they won't notice or become aware through the community is just as silly.
Eve has grown up over the years, and it's not exactly half obvious the way the game was developed 6 years ago is not the way it's developed now. CCP seems to have forgotten the community you fostered hasn't changed. The same people playing eve 5 years back are here now, and they don't like the way ccp has changed.
CCP has been operating under the approach that "new features sell better than polished perfection"* (a quote from a GM or DEV, I don't recall which) and we're sick of it. For many years the same "take everyone off new features and fix the game" phrase has done the rounds, never has it been more apt.
Operate eve the way you used it, when we started playing, or don't bother asking for our help.
*Guess what, it doesn't ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |
Vecila
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.02 17:52:00 -
[1430]
Q. Why do you bother having the CSM if you don't bother to have people to work on why they bring up?
Q. Why do you not have a team dedicated to the fixing of bugs and assuring eve is functioning they way it is supposed to?
If you don't care enough about your game to have people dedicated to fixing unintended bugs, many of which have gone ignored for years, why should we care to give you a positive image? That would after all, be a lie.
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Criex
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:05:00 -
[1431]
actually just **** you.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:09:00 -
[1432]
Originally by: Criex actually just **** you.
still a bit sad after Hulkageddon are we? btw who did you reply to? ______ Blog: "Lessons Learned from New Eden" - why you should add EVE to your CV/resume |
Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:17:00 -
[1433]
I love how the thread is now unstuck. Did they win the award?
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Midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:19:00 -
[1434]
Originally by: Nova Tiempo Edited by: Nova Tiempo on 02/08/2010 16:36:58 In response to annother thread...
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Back then we had topics that said the sky was falling and we had our share of forum drama too, but this does look different to me. It clearly goes beyond the issue of lag and the content of the expansions. I thought Nyphur article was throught provoking for me (and I tried to read it from a non CCP perspective as much as possible).
Now just to make it clear, this is no official CCP post but just my personal impression and thoughts. I do think there is a bigger gap between players and developers than there used to be for various reasons which isn't helpful for anyone either.
Does this imply (above disclaimer aside) that the devs might deign to respond to counter the "bigger gap between players and developers"?
diference being back in the day the developers and players would interact all day on the forum and discus/rabble that is what i personaly enjoyed about eve - i felt i could have my say and then that would be taken by the dev and influence what is been done.
now we get the few mod drones and ocasional dev dropping in
also the community attitude has changed - bad then people would talk with the devs.. however now if a dev posts they get trolled/*****ed at for it so i can totaly understand why they dont -----------------------------------------------
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:23:00 -
[1435]
Gotta love how ccp community people are nowhere to be found to respond to this thread. Sorry ccp advancing to damage controll lvl 5 has prerequisite of damage control staff lvl 4. Advancing denied.
Seriysly, i didnt vote against you, but current state of eve dosent deserve vote for it either. I will not give positive feedback to those unplaying manager idiots for behavior i find unacceptable.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:24:00 -
[1436]
Im going to LMAO when this thread gets locked.
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:27:00 -
[1437]
Originally by: Harmone Princess I love how the thread is now unstuck. Did they win the award?
What are the implications if/when they do?
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Criex
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:27:00 -
[1438]
Originally by: Zeke Mobius Im going to LMAO when this thread gets locked.
Im sure others wont be...
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Illwill Bill
Fjortismaffian HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:28:00 -
[1439]
I beleive there would be more bad publicity, as this thread is linked to, from several news articles.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:32:00 -
[1440]
Even if they arnt outright quitting (i dunno, maybe they are and just havnt said anything) but I am seeing a lot less green lights on my rather substantial contacts list. Participation is down in most of the veteran-based corps I know. Could be SC2, could be WoT, could be despair over EVE's prospects and it's likely a combination of the three.
I know for my part the idea of no re-balancing, no substantive mechanic changes, no new PVP content, and probably only minor UI improvements if any is spirit crushing. EVE needs these things to stay fresh to keep vets from being bored, because the community that ties many of them to the game is shrinking at an increasing rate. EVE needs fixes and balance to keep new players hooked long enough to become invested in the community to repair the player base and retain the newbs.
Right now there is a massive communication gap since CCP has fixed their dev resources for the next 18 months on features players do not consider a priority, if at all relevant. And because of this and their subsequent actions, there is a trust and confidence gap that CCP will even address concerns successfully two years from now when it becomes possible (in 18 months teams will be free, then a 6 month dev cycle to actually plan/write/test the fixes).
I think most people are holding their breath to see if, in the face of such overwhelming and coherent opposition from their customers, CCP takes the opportunity to re-examine their plans to some extent and then produce concrete-feature-detailing dev blogs bolstering confidence that things will actually get better sooner rather than later.
We'll see. ---
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:34:00 -
[1441]
Originally by: Illwill Bill I beleive there would be more bad publicity, as this thread is linked to, from several news articles.
Pity it had to come to that, really.
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:35:00 -
[1442]
Originally by: Meriah Osala You cannot polish a turd but you can role it in glitter.
Congratulations ccp for achieving this
Coffee all over my laptop, thanks.
48 pages? Jeebus christmas.
Wonder how this skews data about customer satisfaction. For the life of my I can't understand why no one has taken that "new features = new players" mindset apart at CCP. They get new players largely on the strength of word of mouth. Word of mouth comes from existing players. Hurp. --
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zoltar pdp
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:37:00 -
[1443]
48 pages and still no official anwser to why they blatantly lie in a pathetic damage control article.
Good job, keep it up.
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:43:00 -
[1444]
Bump.
Even if you unsticky, you're not getting off that easy CCP. The world will see you for what you are.
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Caldrion Dosto
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:47:00 -
[1445]
I wonder how long it is gonna take before they just delete the whole thing?
Also threatening players with rule #17 isn¦t cool Navigator, So is there comming a CCP statement soon about witch systems we are prohibited from fighting in?
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achoura
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:53:00 -
[1446]
If they delete/lock the thread first we'll all go back to scrapheap, second with the media watching it'll just be more bad pr. ***The EVE servers and their patches***
[b]"The data does not suggest that polished content sells better th |
Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:56:00 -
[1447]
Originally by: Veldspar Queen Bump.
Even if you unsticky, you're not getting off that easy CCP. The world will see you for what you are.
Nah, they won't unsticky the thread, because we're keeping it bumped for people to see and thus vote for. But i bet they lock it once the winners of the awards have been announced.
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Jeendep
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:03:00 -
[1448]
Bump, thanks for unstickying it, thats like a slap in the face.....how bout you guys give us a legit response? Coward much? Even if you guys can't/don't fix the issues soon, some sort of official response/communication would be nice and would quell some of the anger present in the Eve community.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:05:00 -
[1449]
if you looked around the relevant forum threads, you might find the answers you are looking for.
-1 to the last few (many) naive posters asking for a "transparent" response ... do your homework, lights out at 8PM ______ Blog: "Lessons Learned from New Eden" - why you should add EVE to your CV/resume |
Lady Lazy
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:13:00 -
[1450]
Is waiting for official CCP reply to this thread........waits........patiently waits........beard begins to grow........hair getting longer........Santa Clause beard now........Flowing locks now make me look like a lady (winks)........damn I am two years older........what was I waiting for again?.........did I hear you say Eve Online û I used to play that game you know. |
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:16:00 -
[1451]
Hang on, this threads dropping. We cant have that.
So, which genius ccp marketing minion read this threads replies, and then thought the best response would be to un stick it? All that does is show you dont want to listen to the fact that WERE ALL DEEPLY UNIMPRESSED!
Re rule 17: - when will I be forbidden from selling freighters in jita for "deliberate and vindictive lag causing"
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Noca Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:18:00 -
[1452]
/me lights a cyno.
This threadnaught needs more stront!
(speak to us dammit ccp!)
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:27:00 -
[1453]
Could this thread reach the biggest eve-o thread of all time?? ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
Hoist the Colors! |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:35:00 -
[1454]
Originally by: ShadowandLight Could this thread reach the biggest eve-o thread of all time??
We can try. Though isn't there a thread 100+ pages long, somewhere?
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:39:00 -
[1455]
An inablitly for the computers to handle an important aspect of play for many players (even 10% is a huge chunk of people to routinely run in to game breaking aspects in their desired area of play) is just beyond any acceptable notion of quality
Almost, 8 months sense the problems first hit a critical mode. Certainly with a comitment to new game frontiers they had earned some patience but after 3 or four months I'd expect fixing or providing game mechanic work arounds . Having that many people affected would command a "stop the presses" responses, even to rethink and rebuild the very mechanics of sov gain if necessary and pulling large teams from other projects to make emergency responses.
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Saehta
Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:43:00 -
[1456]
Please stop posting guys, this has been unstickied so that it may be buried. Don't make them lock it :P -----------------------------------
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Boris Borison
Caldari S0NS 0F ANARCHY
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:45:00 -
[1457]
Looked for option to vote for apocrypha, option missing, voted for BF1943
Have CCP forced enough people to quit to cure the lag? or are more than 50 of us still playing?
I'm on a bandwagon /o\
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.02 19:52:00 -
[1458]
Why unsticky the thread CCP?
U Mad?
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mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:05:00 -
[1459]
I've been watching this thread for a few days now and did not really feel the need to respond or react to it. Since the unstickying, which I feel is a gigantic slap in the face for the playerbase and all the "fanbois" of eve, I've changed my mind and decided to comment. (Not that anyone gives a **** about my opinion, least of all CCP. I've played on and off since 2003, Dominion and Tyrannis were a joke compared to all other expansions.)
First off: Yes, I registered and voted. No, I did not vote for Eve. Yes, I'm off playing World of Tanks like most of my corporation right now. Yes, I pay with PLEXes. No, I don't really have the intention to leave eve, you can't have my damn stuff. While I am ****ed off, I'm not permanently quitting. I honestly don't know if I have the willpower or sufficient social life to never come back to this game.
Yes. I'm a lowsec player. Yes, I'm ****ing sick of the fact that CCP doesn't give a flying **** about lowsec and won't fix anything for eighteen months. Yes, I've tried PI, hated it, and given the **** up on it. I don't need carpal tunnel syndrome from a ****ing game. Please, make a "select all" and "select extraction time" function. Somewhere or somehow. PI was great in its initial form on sisi, what it became was ****. And yes, I alphatest all the time on singularity; I waste my time on it, since I believe the developers of this game give a **** about the players.
Have I been proved wrong by the recent information that has been leaked and slandered all over the internet? Maybe, but even the worst corporations in the world do sometimes listen to their customers. CCP is NOT the worst company, by far. Their customer support is ****, which is why I've not petitioned anything in over 2 years. They could work on that. They SHOULD work on it. Reimbursements SHOULD be easier. But they're not. Again, I wish to mention: I've done all the **** in eve. 0.0, wormhole life, manufacturing, mining, PvP, FW, COSMOS (whoah, there's an incomplete blast from the past), exploration, blah blah blah. CCP does not have **** on Blizzard in respect to PvE (**** off I play WoW, it's become bad, but it's a billion times better than Eve's PvE).
Yes, I'm ****ing sick of the fact that CCP doesn't give a flying **** about lowsec and won't fix anything for eighteen months. Yes, I've tried PI, hated it, and given the **** up on it. I don't need carpal tunnel syndrome from a ****ing game. Please, make a "select all" and "select extraction time" function. Somewhere or somehow. PI was great in its initial form on sisi, what it became was ****. And yes, I alphatest all the time on singularity; I waste my time on it, since I believe the developers of this game give a **** about the players.
Have I been proved wrong by the recent information that has been leaked and slandered all over the internet? Maybe, but even the worst corporations in the world do sometimes listen to their customers. CCP is NOT the worst company, by far. Their customer support is ****, which is why I've not petitioned anything in over 2 years. They could work on that. They SHOULD work on it. Reimbursements SHOULD be easier. But they're not. Again, I wish to mention: I've done all the **** in eve. 0.0, wormhole life, manufacturing, mining, PvP, FW, COSMOS (whoah, there's an incomplete blast from the past), exploration, blah blah blah. CCP does not have **** on Blizzard in respect to PvE (**** off I play WoW, it's become bad, but it's a billion times better than Eve's PvE).
tl;dr: CCP: fix your game, stop ****ing off your playerbase. You're not going to succeed in your stupid console venture. No console player will pay an ADDITIONAL monthly fee to their already ******ed manufacturer imposed fee. Especially not for a game with permanent loss. Players: Give CCP a last chance. I've loved and hated eve for SEVEN years. I'm ****ed, but this game is like a drug. You only get clean when you absolutely HAVE to.
Thanks for reading this rambling post.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:07:00 -
[1460]
This just in, anyone who tries to buy/sell in a market hub is in violation of rule 17 because it is costing CCP more money to run jita on its own node!
So much so, is jita not set to avoid by default on autopilot?
Were agents and missions not removed from jita due to players making it the biggest market hub in eve?
O CRAP, we are all gona get banned.
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mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:15:00 -
[1461]
Edited by: mandaro on 02/08/2010 20:16:53 I have just one more addition (Yes, I know I'm not complying with "FORUM LAW" posting on the same thread within 24 hours from the same char, I apologise oh overlords of the forum), but my wife (ex eve player) had something extra to say:
P.S. From my wife: I quit the game years ago despite being an avid PvPer, after being actually insulted by customer service repeatedly. They said one account doesn't matter in the long run; and it doesn't. But watching people slowly leak away from Eve over the years while the team works on other games and ignores the playerbase... The CCP guys always seemed to me like some drunk jerks fresh out of college, with no guidance, rather than any sort of professional company. I'm laughing at CCP right now. Hard.
*This does not represent my own opinion, but it's worth it because it is the opinion of many players that have left eve permanently because of the unprofessional attitude of those that run the game.
She was a loyal customer until she was treated badly. $400 over 2 years. Imagine that over 1000 customers.
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Xiomaraa
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:16:00 -
[1462]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
I would go back and play VGA-planets 3.15 :)
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Jeane Brash
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:22:00 -
[1463]
bumping this back to the top ^ |
Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:22:00 -
[1464]
Originally by: Blane Xero CCP Might be failing, but would any of you morons actually say that there is a better MMO out there? If so, why are you not playing it?
Hypocrites the ****ing lot of you.
anyone know where i can get frontier elite 2 from?. loved that game and from what i remember didnt have as much lag
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Tetra gramaton
Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:24:00 -
[1465]
This just in CCP has lost direction... Just fix the lag please..
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tmasher
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:30:00 -
[1466]
Just wanted to say, pretty much everyone I've grown to call friends in Eve have already quit. I'm one of the last of my social group that bother playing anymore, and I'm only keeping going under the amount of ISK savings I have -- and I can't even make any more because the ways in which I previously did are next to impossible now with the myriad of problems plaguing the game since Tyrannis.
So if you really think I'm going to vote for you in any competition other than "biggest popularity nosedive in the gaming industry" then you can **** off.
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Illwill Bill
Fjortismaffian HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:33:00 -
[1467]
Originally by: Im Blue
anyone know where i can get frontier elite 2 from?
It was released for free years ago. Google it.
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Icantseeanythinginthis
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:36:00 -
[1468]
Bumping this to the top.. Or until they lock there own post.. Which will be even funnier!!!
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:45:00 -
[1469]
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Originally by: Im Blue
anyone know where i can get frontier elite 2 from?
It was released for free years ago. Google it.
cant get it to run on this machine.. but elite 4 is being worked on, so well thats eve done for me for a good while when that hits. ccp didnt want those 6 accounts anyhow
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:46:00 -
[1470]
Eris Discordia gave me hope but if ccp just locks this post because they don't care it will probably make me leave as they proved they no longer care as they are basicly money grabbers, not developers anymore. They should become a hedge fund tbh.
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Illwill Jill
Gallente Nifelhem
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:47:00 -
[1471]
Edited by: Illwill Jill on 02/08/2010 20:47:28
Originally by: Im Blue
cant get it to run on this machine..
Try DOSBox for the DOS version, or better, get the CD32-version and run it in WinUAE. EDIT: Crap my secret alt is exposed!
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:01:00 -
[1472]
Hey CCP, do we not deserve some response for our money each month?
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:10:00 -
[1473]
we should start a betting pool to see if the thread gets locked, triple payout if navigator says rule 17 again with the next 48 hours ;p
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Jerikai
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:16:00 -
[1474]
Ah, page 50. how nice to see you...
Wonder if anyone official cares to comment?
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Lorna Loot
Caldari NibbleTek RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:17:00 -
[1475]
Too busy developing that new game we don't want.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:22:00 -
[1476]
Nah...why would they waste resources fixing lag and latency when they're "working as expected".
/sarcasm off
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Montar Ran
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:22:00 -
[1477]
Lets go CCP... we are your customer base... No answers... Looks like damage control is keeping you busy... How is WoT is that any good and SC2 anyways? anyone know?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:26:00 -
[1478]
I hope this thread stays on page 1 near the top for the next 18 months.
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:27:00 -
[1479]
Originally by: Zostera Hey CCP, do we not deserve some response for our money each month?
Nevermind, I had a think about it, you won't be getting my money each month. Game was fun for a couple years, but those big battles that EvE is famous for and I spent my time training to be a part of, well they are broken, and all your new "features" hold no interest for me.
Unsubbed from October.
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NerdKillin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:29:00 -
[1480]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I hope this thread stays on page 1 near the top for the next 18 months.
You think they will actually let that happen?
I wouldnt be surprised if CCP nerfs this thread within the next 18 days.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:29:00 -
[1481]
Unstickying this thread as an attempt to hide it?
Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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GilGalaad
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:31:00 -
[1482]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn I hope this thread stays on page 1 near the top for the next 18 months.
+1
And no... i will no vote
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Srialia
Misfit Toys
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:33:00 -
[1483]
Some BP level burying of heads in sand going on at CCP it seems. The public anger is not going to go away if you lock threads ("Don't create parody threads?" Really?) and pretend this stuff isn't causing problems. It's going to get worse. Every time a previously content player runs into a problem with the game, does a little research, and realizes how little you care, the anger is going to get worse.
We're not demanding the world here. We want you to make the smallest amount of effort to work with your player base. And you can't be bothered. This thread and the way you're handling it is laughably pathetic.
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:35:00 -
[1484]
Originally by: Jerikai Ah, page 50. how nice to see you...
Wonder if anyone official cares?
fixed it for ya
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Joretto Hawisaki
United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:39:00 -
[1485]
Adding another one for page 100!
Well, it will probably take 18 months to get there at this rate. I wonder how big the original thread was before it was ~moderated~?
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Jerikai
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:47:00 -
[1486]
Originally by: Im Blue
Originally by: Jerikai Ah, page 50. how nice to see you...
Wonder if anyone official cares?
fixed it for ya
Hmm. I think this versions more accuratly portraying the mood of the player base.
Although Im certain there must be at least ONE person at Icelandic Command yelling at everyone around him, trying to convince them that the lag is... bad. My heart goes out to this theoretical lone voice of reason
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:49:00 -
[1487]
Edited by: Hexman on 02/08/2010 21:49:10 bumping just cuz i like being a pain in the bnttocks.
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Triple Awesome
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:16:00 -
[1488]
Edited by: Triple Awesome on 02/08/2010 22:16:45 Your World Of Tanks Beta Key hits CCP's broken EVE <DMGCTRL>(LOLDUST), doing ú14.99 damage.
etc...
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mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:21:00 -
[1489]
Originally by: Jerikai Ah, page 50. how nice to see you...
Wonder if anyone official cares?
The "True CCP" cares. The beancounters don't give a ****.
That is the problem right now. Beancounters don't help your company at the moment, at least not in the current situation that this game's customers are in. What helps is listening to the true heart and life of your audience.
I would love to work for CCP right now, since I have many ideas and suggestions for their development and research department. Some of my corpies nominated me for CSM, but I did not care enough at the time - again, I'm now convinced that this company needs the help from an active, uncorrupted, average player.
Care with me, eve Community. Eve is not dead. Yet. A true response is necessary, from an "official" source. No ****ing bull**** PR. Stop being on ****ing holiday devs, give us a damn hay/nay/****OFF - if you actually care, something will be said. Even if it's just the "****OFF" I would respect your balls and opinion.
Please CCP, show us you give a ****. Respond to this. As soon as possible, preferably. Or employ someone who has a connection to the people who play this game - and has no bull**** political or financial baggage to deal with. Sometimes you need to make a stand to show what is important to you. As a long time player, eve lover and someone who defends you in every possible situation, I am asking of you: Don't ignore us. We, as a base of tens of thousands, are ****ed.
You can see my forum post history, I'm a rare poster, I don't talk much. Even I, now, have decided it's time for the truth. Do you care for your "true" original players, or are we just a means for the cause, i.e. your meal ticket to console player heaven?
I'm begging you, CCP. Respond. Show us something, anything. No PR bull****, true emotion and heartfelt reaction. Not as damage control. Please.
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grrfsweld
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:24:00 -
[1490]
my money is on Zymurgist locking the thread for "no content" in about 24h. Terrible alt poster. EVE Forum Police - keeping mods at bay |
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:28:00 -
[1491]
Seeing that CCP has now dropped the sticky on this thread, hoping it will go away and has started locking threads that refer to this one, I think it's pretty obvious that CCP were deeply humiliated by the response they got.
Good. It's about damn time.
Sadly, all that will happen in the end is that CCP will continue to ignore the players anger and will continue to push their usual brand of over the top marketing hubris with puppets like Soundwave using AWESOME in every second sentence like a broken record player.
I'm letting my second account run out in September, but will continue to play with this one as I'm playing mostly because of the people in my corp these days, people who really are AWESOME.
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Vipy Styx
S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:33:00 -
[1492]
My moneys on ccp turning into another clown company thats just gotten greedy... Wonder if ccp will care when the majority quit eve because of this crap?
p.s. starcraft 2 is a awesome game if you havent played it yet, online games are lag free aswell
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:35:00 -
[1493]
aaannnnddddd.....
unstickied at page 50. -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:37:00 -
[1494]
THREADNAUT NEED MOAR SPEED!
/giggles 50 pages in 7 days epic
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:41:00 -
[1495]
I was interested in my "War" thread if CCP would lock it. I was amazed the used rule 17 to do so. So let me understand this, if we were to stage a war in Jita, somehow that is interpreted as affecting "All" players in Eve. Really? This would seem to be a bit far fetched. My real problem now is the number of players that get lagged out if Jita gets hit versus how many players get affected in Null sec when two large fleets engage. Want to bet the amount of players may be greater in null sec? The rule 17 reply is just another reason why CCP is is losing stature with it's player base. I hope they wake up before they see their cash flow starts reducing to to a unsustainable level. Kinda like their reputation is diminishing via this thread.
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T0KER
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:50:00 -
[1496]
LMAO what a thread.
CCP is diggin their own graves right now..
Don't worry though guys... in 18 months we'll have space second life to play with our eve gatez.
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CHIMERAA
Gallente 7-Eleven
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:51:00 -
[1497]
They will lock this thread as soon as you are no longer able to vote. That way they can act like they are not trying to hide the thread.
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motomysz
Nexus Advanced Technologies Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:54:00 -
[1498]
Originally by: CHIMERAA They will lock this thread as soon as you are no longer able to vote. That way they can act like they are not trying to hide the thread.
Already unstickied, so it's half way there.
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Germaldi's Daughter
Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn Blood Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:56:00 -
[1499]
not getting my vote
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:59:00 -
[1500]
Originally by: Triple Awesome Edited by: Triple Awesome on 02/08/2010 22:16:45 Your World Of Tanks Beta Key hits CCP's broken EVE <DMGCTRL>(LOLDUST), doing ú14.99 damage.
etc...
You ****d my mouth with laughter!
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Foxtrot74
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:08:00 -
[1501]
Lol Vote for eve online the best Online game! yeah right im going back to play something better like those Facebook games! or starcraft 2
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Mr Newcorpington
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:10:00 -
[1502]
If this thread does not create drastic changes, along with blog posts detailing these changes, I will fear for the health of EVE.
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Zhana Agonskaya
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:14:00 -
[1503]
wait wait let me think about this one.....
NO
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:19:00 -
[1504]
Big Balls Award goes to CCP for this request.
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Commando Jaxx
Caldari Mean Corp Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:27:00 -
[1505]
Well CCP sure can make a good joke! Ha they almost had me on that one I have utmost respect for Mandaro, as a fellow corp mate and knowing how he feels from talking to him and hearing it from many Eve players... CCP are taking the '****' as Mandaro has previously explain, and i totally agree with him and many other players that have posted.
Peace out
Oh and next time you decide to do this again, please.. please! Make a Bull**** topic so we don't waste our time
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B0NECRUSHER
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:28:00 -
[1506]
no.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:38:00 -
[1507]
As Steven would say, "muchos huevos grandes"...
Also, why do I see this happening in 18 months?
(Killer8 ftw)
Selective Pressure is recruiting. |
Foxtrot74
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Posted - 2010.08.02 23:40:00 -
[1508]
Well Mr. Corp EvE is already dieing Very Slowly at that if CCP keeps on With dust 514 i do fear for the health of eve then because they are all more worried about that than the people that have been playing for 4-5 or even 6 years.
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Olevander
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Posted - 2010.08.03 00:44:00 -
[1509]
Hey. What's going on in this thread?
Oh my.
Okay mmmhmm, I'm gonna go ahead and say no. And I'm gonna go ahead and ask you to move your desk as far back against that wall as possible to make room for these boxes.
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:10:00 -
[1510]
It was a sad day, the day we were asked to vote... and an even sadder day when CCP unstickied this thread to try make it go away.
You insult us twice. Why don't you just lock it and move it to a hidden/restricted forum while you're at it?
<yoda>Sweep this under the carpet, you will.</yoda>
-G
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Lord Khelben
Amarr Secret Squirrel Readiness Group Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:21:00 -
[1511]
Yeah... no.
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SikPuppy
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:39:00 -
[1512]
haha, :CCP: hows about a big cup of NO |
altnumber
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:41:00 -
[1513]
i voted for conan not because i like it but because im that tired of CCP's stupidity and constant refusal to be anything other than a media ***** looking for new players and ignoring the ppl that got them here. I wonder if CCP has realized what a bad idea this thread was yet? :)
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.03 01:47:00 -
[1514]
Originally by: Brannor McThife It was a sad day, the day we were asked to vote... and an even sadder day when CCP unstickied this thread to try make it go away.
You insult us twice. Why don't you just lock it and move it to a hidden/restricted forum while you're at it?
<yoda>Sweep this under the carpet, you will.</yoda>
-G
This is a perfectly legitimate tactic by CCP. By not fanning the flames that they originally fueled, CCP enables the fire to die down. People will go back to their everyday, mind-numbing stuff and forget about some absurd and off-their-****ing-rocker request of an already irritated community.
By unchecking the "sticky checkbox" CCP intends for this post to slide off of page one and into the annals of epic EVE poasting history...
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:05:00 -
[1515]
Edited by: Hexman on 03/08/2010 02:14:11 CCP Customer support and one of *us*
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mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:10:00 -
[1516]
Originally by: Hexman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XWRuXUo6I
Lol. I don't really like those silly video makers, but I actually was amused by that one. *waits for navigator to delete the link quickly*
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:16:00 -
[1517]
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara By unchecking the "sticky checkbox" CCP intends for this post to slide off of page one and into the annals of epic EVE poasting history...
Well, ccp at the time of apocrypha were hailed by many far and wide as having developed a game that sellected only the most tenacious of players to stay ahead of the pack. Now, I think were still sufficiantly tenacious to keep this thread pinned to the forum ceiling until someone, somewhere decides that we might just have a subtle message hidden away in the threadnaught.
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Zso Sahal
Minmatar Multiverse Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:36:00 -
[1518]
/bump
you're not getting off the hook that easily. this one stays on the front page til we get some answers.
p.s. at this point, they'd better be answers we like
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:43:00 -
[1519]
Originally by: Hexman Edited by: Hexman on 03/08/2010 02:14:11 CCP Customer support and one of *us*
Nah, this seems more like it somedays.
Selective Pressure is recruiting. |
mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:55:00 -
[1520]
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Nah, this seems more like it somedays.
Except the goat can't ban people...
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Aralieus
Amarr The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:00:00 -
[1521]
Edited by: Aralieus on 03/08/2010 03:04:49
Originally by: Olevander Hey. What's going on in this thread?
Oh my.
Okay mmmhmm, I'm gonna go ahead and say no. And I'm gonna go ahead and ask you to move your desk as far back against that wall as possible to make room for these boxes.
<3 Office Space...I have you seen my stapler 0_o
Best describes some people I know..cough**CCP***cough
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Mr. Orange
Gallente Band of Freelancers Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:05:00 -
[1522]
You gotta be jokin' right?!
First, fix this current build. second, start listening to your customer base and THEN maybe you'll get my vote!
The Pusher Man |
Second Flux
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:11:00 -
[1523]
hum, no?
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Sha Dar
eXceeded
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:26:00 -
[1524]
Bumpage...
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Aden Hughes
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:29:00 -
[1525]
Edited by: Aden Hughes on 03/08/2010 03:29:58 Um, NO!
You see CCP, to win an award for 'Best Online Game,' you have to have the support of your customer/player base.
51 pages says that you don't have very much support, and it's only snowballing. Imagine what it will look like in 18 months.
/Signed
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Vortine
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:34:00 -
[1526]
VOTED
... For Conan.
Yes I play eve, but for how much longer? Not 18 months.
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Fyrr Deerdan
Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:43:00 -
[1527]
/voted for EVE.
Despite the lag currently, still leagues ahead of all other MMOs, as far as I'm concerned.
Most people *****ing about lag don't know the first thing about what's going on behind the curtain at CCP -- myself included.
Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Applebabe |
Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:53:00 -
[1528]
Voted for EVE Online just to troll all of you. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Eno Lacigol
Amarr DAEDALUS X Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:54:00 -
[1529]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Voted for EVE Online just to troll all of you.
U Mad?
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari Pastry Productions Inc. Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.08.03 04:15:00 -
[1530]
OP reported for trolling
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Trauli
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Posted - 2010.08.03 04:42:00 -
[1531]
Originally by: Hexman Edited by: Hexman on 03/08/2010 02:14:11 CCP Customer support and one of *us*
Tears in my eyes.
Though I shouldn't be laughing because its all true.
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Alice D
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:08:00 -
[1532]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
GB2WOW!
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Vikarion
Caldari The Guardsmen
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:12:00 -
[1533]
I haven't even played these other MMO's, and I still want to vote for them.
- - -
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:26:00 -
[1534]
Top post Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
Xeronn
Amarr Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:50:00 -
[1535]
Edited by: Xeronn on 03/08/2010 05:51:49 bumpage
allso, vote..
CCP should delay incarna 18 months and fix eve yes/no?
CCP , get a baseball bat , write on it "polish may not sell better then new features but WORKING CORE FEATURES SELL BETTER THEN NEW FEATURES!"
Then take said bat and use it to beat the **** out of everyone involved in PR and beancounting over there
then fire them
then hire a PR firm to make sure they never get another job in the gaming field
ever
maybe in 18 years but not sooner
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Peace Sionate
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:53:00 -
[1536]
Eve has my vote but i do play in a wierd timezone and never have experanced much lagg . still the best game out there
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Angel Rodriguez
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:00:00 -
[1537]
bump.
CCP im really happy for you and imma let you finish but fail post is fail !!!!!!
...i currently have 10 brain cells on the voting issue , the rest will join when im done fixin my sandwich , in about 18 months ! srry a bit of lag in my brain right now ! .....ohhh noezz black scre...
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Zosetta
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:15:00 -
[1538]
I used to play this game called World of Warcraft, where you could walk around in cities as a little person. Unfortunately you couldn't have two large groups of people on the same server meet up for a fight without it lagging and crashing, unless of course you played their version of sanitised pvp.
So I heard about this game called EvE where people didn't spend all their time wearing "dancing costumes" and messing about in cities, but actually had enormous fights.
Oh wait...
It's a sad day when CCP's aspirations for EvE are to turn it into WoW, especially (and I can't believe I am saying this) since WoW does the kiddy PvE genre better.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:17:00 -
[1539]
is there a eve chat in WoT?
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dopesuxx
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:30:00 -
[1540]
bump ..
Quality (excellence didn't I hear excellence somewhere ?) over quantity.
"Games Award" .. tztztz .. troll ? joke ?
Fix it !
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:33:00 -
[1541]
Played since release, probably the first year I would consider not voting for Eve.
Please, sort this out CCP. |
Lexa HeIIfury
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:48:00 -
[1542]
Oh hey, look what isn't stickied anymore. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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SturmLumlane
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:00:00 -
[1543]
@CCP Zymurgist : in one word : NO
More words ? Fix Lag / FW / UI bugs and so many more...
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Gabi Osterhagen
Golden Clover Astrogeologists
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:01:00 -
[1544]
Do you hear the people sing? Singing a song of angry men? It is the music of a people Who will not be slaves again! When the beating of your heart Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When tomorrow comes!
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:31:00 -
[1545]
Well unstickying this thread seems to have exacerbated things. I wonder what'll happen when CCP eventually lock it.
My guess is multiple links back to this thread from many many quickly locked threads.
smooth move ccp, way to handle outrage ;) --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Roger Kiyosaki
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:44:00 -
[1546]
Not a null sec dweller myself (just yet), but will refrain from voting out of solidarity with the part of the player base you're ignoring. In 18 months plus some, if lag's better, I might vote.
So, if you play your cards right, it's probably gonna be European Games Awards 2012.
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:50:00 -
[1547]
As the servers are in the best shape they have ever been in, the client is so clean that not much work needs done for the next 18 month and every part of my computer has been upgraded since apocrowhatever the problem must obviously be my internet conection.
With this in mind im switching my isp from a crappy 5mb dsl line to a 50mb cable line. The line gets installed on thurday If my game improves ill vote for you then and advice all the whiners to upgrade there internet.
P.S. My wife is getting close to cancling my subs due to being absolutly sick of me raging at my comp when i "play" this game now and knows im way too adicted to it. Please for the sanctity of my marage fix the game.
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:54:00 -
[1548]
So 52 pages.. I read the first 2 and the last 2.. I didn't see anyone who was actually going to vote for eve.. (Plenty of people that said they wouldn't vote for the competition)
When your own paying customers wont vote for you, you have something to worry about. (My first worry would be how to keep many of them paying customers)
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
Heretic Girl
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:58:00 -
[1549]
Don't be so mean. I will vote for CCP. In 18 months though, I'm somewhat busy now...
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THEGREAT LOBO
Naughty. The Uninvited.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:02:00 -
[1550]
I will vote for CCP.
In 18 months
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Accredited Conveyancing
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:06:00 -
[1551]
It would seem disingenuous if I voted for EVE given that my accounts are all about to lapse: I can't even be bothered logging in to apply the PLEXs I have in my hangars. |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:07:00 -
[1552]
Originally by: Lana Torrin
When your own paying customers wont vote for you, you have something to worry about. (My first worry would be how to keep many of them paying customers)
But it's fine because they'll just open the game to more people --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Bulawayoh
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:08:00 -
[1553]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
This thread is hilarious.
You getting a pay rise this year, Zym? |
enterprisePSI
Gallente Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:08:00 -
[1554]
Yes it's the isp fault. I have 60ms ping with most European servers in counter strike and other games. Yet with eve i am lagging. Therefore it's my fault.
Let's use some common sense. Every time i click something on my client , it will send a request at the server, and the server will respond. Just like with any browser. From what i hear PI is forcing you to click like your suffering from (lol).
So , how many of you PI all the time, and force the server to act like crazy all the time. Do not get me wrong, it is not your fault. And i am pretty sure there are many developers at CCP who warned them about these issues. But remember kids, money talks, bull**** walks. And CCP is a corp. Tears, or the titan dies!
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Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:18:00 -
[1555]
Edited by: Bobbechk on 03/08/2010 08:17:55
Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO I will vote for CCP.
In 18 months
you win
original post of the year ________
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:34:00 -
[1556]
Excellence.. -
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Andrei Vassaliev
Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:01:00 -
[1557]
Tuesday 3rd August 2010. "Excellence" is still hold hostage by "Lag".
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:18:00 -
[1558]
keep it up there!
question : I can understand why ccp wants to diversify but....why keep building this on EvE (dust , incarna , we all know its just the graphic engine of WoD)...and then purposefully kill eve?
I mean...Buy dust! amazing 2007 graphics in a revolutionary game about shooting people , made unique by its unique link to a MMORPG that noone plays anymore!
WoT ! With the awessome graphics from the dying EvE MMO , developed by the team that ruined one of the most succesfull wetern MMO`s...its gona be an insta hit!
If u wana **** up eve..whatever...but what i cant seem to get is why base then all your future projects...on eve?
Cant you see how what you do now will impact everything you plan to release from now on?
Srssly...who here would buy a MMO from SoE nowadays? nomatter how well advertized it would be
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MarcusMaximus Milius
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:30:00 -
[1559]
Sad to see greed devastating a unique vision of entertainment (though not for the masses, but for those with passion for sciefi and a good portion of intelligence) and turning the coolest company on earth into just another money making machine.
If there are still enough passionate Capsuleers in CCP, than stand up and kick the traitors out of their management chairs or at least die trying! Else eve will die.
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Hustler Funk
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:33:00 -
[1560]
/bandaid?
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:37:00 -
[1561]
Edited by: Tarasina on 03/08/2010 09:43:15
Originally by: Nedefeg keep it up there!
question : I can understand why ccp wants to diversify but....why keep building this on EvE (dust , incarna , we all know its just the graphic engine of WoD)...and then purposefully kill eve?
I mean...Buy dust! amazing 2007 graphics in a revolutionary game about shooting people , made unique by its unique link to a MMORPG that noone plays anymore!
WoT ! With the awessome graphics from the dying EvE MMO , developed by the team that ruined one of the most succesfull wetern MMO`s...its gona be an insta hit!
If u wana **** up eve..whatever...but what i cant seem to get is why base then all your future projects...on eve?
Cant you see how what you do now will impact everything you plan to release from now on?
Srssly...who here would buy a MMO from SoE nowadays? nomatter how well advertized it would be
Me. NGE wasn't SOE's work, it was Lucasarts. Vanguard wasn't SOE's doing, it was Brads.
EQ2...is there any better game? I haven't found one. It has one of the most mature and nicest coomunities too. Big bonus.
I'm not voting for Eve, never have, never will.
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Zelda Wei
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:43:00 -
[1562]
Gallon and Gallons of pirate tears.
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THEGREAT LOBO
Naughty. The Uninvited.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:47:00 -
[1563]
Originally by: Bobbechk Edited by: Bobbechk on 03/08/2010 08:17:55
Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO I will vote for CCP.
In 18 months
you win original post of the year
At least somebody won an award from this thread
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:15:00 -
[1564]
Originally by: Tarasina Edited by: Tarasina on 03/08/2010 09:43:15
Originally by: Nedefeg keep it up there!
question : I can understand why ccp wants to diversify but....why keep building this on EvE (dust , incarna , we all know its just the graphic engine of WoD)...and then purposefully kill eve?
I mean...Buy dust! amazing 2007 graphics in a revolutionary game about shooting people , made unique by its unique link to a MMORPG that noone plays anymore!
WoT ! With the awessome graphics from the dying EvE MMO , developed by the team that ruined one of the most succesfull wetern MMO`s...its gona be an insta hit!
If u wana **** up eve..whatever...but what i cant seem to get is why base then all your future projects...on eve?
Cant you see how what you do now will impact everything you plan to release from now on?
Srssly...who here would buy a MMO from SoE nowadays? nomatter how well advertized it would be
Me. NGE wasn't SOE's work, it was Lucasarts. Vanguard wasn't SOE's doing, it was Brads.
EQ2...is there any better game? I haven't found one. It has one of the most mature and nicest coomunities too. Big bonus.
I'm not voting for Eve, never have, never will.
so...incarna will fall onto WhitwWholf ?
CCP is trying to build on EvE`s success without really understanding where that success comes from imho
It comes from the fanatic comunity and the player driven and made content , not from the PI , eve gate and other sort of trash trinkets . Take the fanatical part of the comunity and the player driven content (0.0 , alliances, politics , and the market that depends on them) and you`ll be left with a subpar game even when compared to free mmo`s , with a similar comuity to free mmo`s ...people playing trial+ 1-2 months maybe till they get into battleships...then move on to the next shiny
If you really wanna turn eve into a theme park where the main attractions are new shiny things....you`re doing a **** poor job at that too. WoW adds more shiny things in 1 expansion then eve did in all expansions put together since 2008 .
So make up your mind and let us know CCP
what is it? Will you try to keep eve alive or just use it to launch your new stuff , and mutilate/trash it beyond any recognizable form in doing so? Either way , you should know by now that EvE comunity is unique and probably most people associate EvE with its comunity and NT with CCP
This comunity is what won you awards after awards and kept the game on all sorts of tops. This comunity is just as able to kill this game forever.
AT least agnolege us and give us a f u c k k in straight answer
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SBRDoc
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:31:00 -
[1565]
53 Page Thread... Thousands of posts about lag... Does this mean there will be thousands of players on the test server this Thursday helping to fix lag? Somehow I doubt it.
CCP is working to fix lag, threadnaughts don't help
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:37:00 -
[1566]
Killing time until the rice is cooked ;) :
"18 Months" is a long time for a game, even for eve. There is a long list of cornerstones that hold eve together, such as 0.0 sov warfare, lowsec piracy and faction warfare, empire production but also wars etc. etc.
But many of these cornerstones still need work or could just be so much more enjoyable if they were improved. Ill start with the obvious,
0.0 Sov warfare, it was a big mistake to implement a system that requires the attacker and defender to be in one system. A better system wouldve been based of occupance instead of shooting structures, it would have also supported new groups moving into 0.0 as most alliances hold large areas of space but use little of it. It wouldve also made industrialists more supportive to 0.0 alliances.
Lowsec, it needs a purpose that is different to empire and 0.0, currently it cannot compete to either. Forcing 0.0 dwellers to cross lowsec when moving to/from empire is a start, but also a bounty hunting system and pve content that kills your security status.
Faction warfare, consequences for won and lost systems is a start, also balanced npcs, more interesting missions and complexes that spawn over the day and not mostly after downtimes. This is a major stepping stones for newbies, how you just leave it unattended is a mysterie to me.
Empire, wars need an overhaul, from costs to neutral logistics but also a proper blackmail system that works for both sides.
Various others would be: - capital movement changed so that capfleets cant be moved throughout eve as easily as it can be done now. - Many mods and ships only purpose in eve is to be used in t2 production, whole roles are inaccessible to new players as the ships for those arent worth bothering. - UI needs improvement in many areas, often small things which are a nuisance, but still.. - Mining as a profession has a hard time to compete with others in terms of isk but is also hardly fun. Improvements have been shown in fanfests but nothing followed. Many Newbies try mining out, not the best first impression they can get from eve.
These and many other things would make eve shine were they worked on, some are easily done i suppose some would be major expansions - but eve is worth it to you, isnt it? -
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:37:00 -
[1567]
(continuing)
It`s my opinion allso that whatever ****head came up with the famous statistic that 80% of the active CHAACTERS are in empire did EvE as a whole a HUGE disservice
1) how do you define active character? just a character on an active account? A character that logs in x times/week? a character that does y stuff? what stuff? I have 2 accnts left , thus 6 characters...do all 6 count in that statistic?
Out of those 2 are in 0.0 and 4 are in empire. How is that fatored in the beancouting statistics?
Why 4 in empire? because i have no reason to get all of them to 0.0! I can farm well enough in empire with them!
I think i know a lot of people in eve , and i can safely say that with 2 accnts i`m in the minority....most ppl i know have 3 + , and the spread of characters on there accnts is similar
I`m in a large alliance, and i`m quite confident everyone and there dog has at least 50% of there characters in Empire , trading alts , mission *****s, etc etc
Fact is , even if i`m a 0.0 player , there`s NOTHING for me to do in 0.0 with all my characters
I`m allso quite confident that the vast majority of PLAYERS in eve are in one way or another involved in the "alliance politics" , be it 0.0 grunts or independant pirates/mercs (you guys all know that roams eventually end up in some 0.0 alliance`s sov systems hopin to catch ratters or trigger a response fleet you can handle) Look at lowsec : You can pew-pew there...why not/ No reason to be there....so it`s empty. Can you see the same fate for 0.0 if things keep heading the way they do?
TL;DR
Im sure most of the eve PLAYERS are 0.0 or highly dependant on whats goin on there even if they dont fully realize that
I`m allso sure that the vast silent empire majority is vastly made up of armies of alts grinding missions for isk for the mains to spend in 0.0
I`m allso sure that people who dont get involved one way or another in alliance politics never play past 6 months and thats VERY generous assumption
CCP , fire all your useless beancounters!
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:38:00 -
[1568]
I, too, am eagerly awaiting paying money so I can be a beta tester and/or Quality Assurance Technician.
Interesting, of course, that they can't look at any of the aborted fleet fights and need people to sign on for QA work on the test server. But, I suppose... the logs? They show nothing. ------------------------------------------------
Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain! |
SBRDoc
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:42:00 -
[1569]
Originally by: Nedefeg (continuing)
I`m allso sure that people who dont get involved one way or another in alliance politics never play past 6 months and thats VERY generous assumption
This doesn't change your point at all, but I've been paying about 1.5 years without getting into alliance politics... but then again, I live in a Wormhole
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:43:00 -
[1570]
baaamp
btw , is this sticky again?
just in case though
bump
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.03 10:59:00 -
[1571]
Originally by: SBRDoc 53 Page Thread... Thousands of posts about lag... Does this mean there will be thousands of players on the test server this Thursday helping to fix lag? Somehow I doubt it.
CCP is working to fix lag, threadnaughts don't help
I fail to see how this is on topic! Everyone else is justifying why they aren't voting, thus on topic, while you're derailing the thread!
My only vote is on CCP for the bad timming awards! I think you guys nailed it this year!
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Bunds
T H C
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:01:00 -
[1572]
bump
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:17:00 -
[1573]
If I were an investor right now, I would contact the guy doing Infinity, set him up with a team to finish up his game and the server infrastructure needed to run it, and announce a finish date anywhere within the next 18 months. The way CCP is going right now, I don't think they would survive that.
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Retsil Evad
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:27:00 -
[1574]
Originally by: SBRDoc 53 Page Thread... Thousands of posts about lag... Does this mean there will be thousands of players on the test server this Thursday helping to fix lag? Somehow I doubt it.
I would be but due to timezone stuff I will be at work.
Quote:
CCP is working to fix lag, threadnaughts don't help
Neither does throwing resources into developing all the faff such as PI instead of throwing those resources into fixing the worsening lag crap.
Once the lag is reduced to the pre Tryrannis levels, when we could have 1200 ships ion a fight, then I well vote for them. Until then, no way. Note this is my opinion, not that of my corp or alliance ============== Office use ONLY ==============
BRING BACK EVE TV!!!!!!! |
Anticlipse
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:41:00 -
[1575]
Not voting for, nor against. I love the concept of Eve but the execution has lost it's path.
Fix lag and fix the Mac client. In the mass email out from Apple the other day regarding the new iMac, your screen shot was there as a showcase, you could at least make the thing work bug free.
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ArmyOfMe
TAKEN. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:45:00 -
[1576]
Funcom should send CCP a big thank you tbh, cause of this thread i think age of conan might win the awards
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IR Seriouscat
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:47:00 -
[1577]
Originally by: Triple Awesome Edited by: Triple Awesome on 02/08/2010 22:16:45 Your World Of Tanks Beta Key hits CCP's broken EVE <DMGCTRL>(LOLDUST), doing ú14.99 damage.
etc...
You sir have just won the internet.
And no, no fkn vote, worst expansion ever
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Luthenis
Amarr The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 11:57:00 -
[1578]
Originally by: SBRDoc 53 Page Thread... Thousands of posts about lag... Does this mean there will be thousands of players on the test server this Thursday helping to fix lag? Somehow I doubt it.
CCP is working to fix lag, threadnaughts don't help
I wont help... why? Cuz i pay (yes i pay with real money \o/) to play a game with no lag, i wont get extra time or any icentive to test it
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:01:00 -
[1579]
why CCP would put support for the mac client so far on the back burner is beyond me.
Im no apple fan boy, however I do own an iphone :)
However to drop support for the 2nd most popular OS in the world just boggles the mind. ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
Hoist the Colors! |
Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:03:00 -
[1580]
well maybe i`ll go to test IF they`ll state clearly somewhere that they will have more then 1 guy working on LAG and not LOW FPS
Try it CCP , devblog saying you`ll divert 20-30 ppl to LAG issue and u`ll see 1000+ on test server
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Graic Valente
Gallente Valente Galactic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:04:00 -
[1581]
Is there an award for the most flaky piece of crap in Europe awards?
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:04:00 -
[1582]
Tried to log in.....Database issues!!!!
this is happening more and more.
NO VOTEY FOR YOU CCP! FIX THE GAME!
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SikPuppy
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:05:00 -
[1583]
Originally by: Graic Valente Is there an award for the most flaky piece of crap in Europe awards?
i'd give tyrannis a vote for that award
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KardelSharpeye
Gallente The Watchtower
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:06:00 -
[1584]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
\ Will do in 18 months... if EVE isn't dead by then.
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Montar Ran
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:11:00 -
[1585]
Originally by: Luthenis
Originally by: SBRDoc 53 Page Thread... Thousands of posts about lag... Does this mean there will be thousands of players on the test server this Thursday helping to fix lag? Somehow I doubt it.
CCP is working to fix lag, threadnaughts don't help
I wont help... why? Cuz i pay (yes i pay with real money \o/) to play a game with no lag, i wont get extra time or any icentive to test it
Luthenis has it right... we pay for a game... not sit on a test server for them to fix the game...
seriously why put out s**t expansions with s**t code thats screw the game up for th true majority!
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Cpt WilliamKidd
Minmatar Vanguard Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:12:00 -
[1586]
go to the top, and btw, i made my vote, for AoC
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Poo Ka'hontas
Red Eye Industrial
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:13:00 -
[1587]
Originally by: Graic Valente Is there an award for the most flaky piece of crap in Europe awards?
Yup... The award has been shared between the makers of the game-series, Total War and CCP for EVE Offline (since dominion-release).
They are both outstanding in not taking feedback from the community seriously and to deliver "games" not even qualified as beta-version to the customerbase.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No. CCP Shadow should behave the same way forums do during downtime. Up, but maybe a little slow.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:15:00 -
[1588]
Originally by: ShadowandLight why CCP would put support for the mac client so far on the back burner is beyond me.
Im no apple fan boy, however I do own an iphone :)
However to drop support for the 2nd most popular OS in the world just boggles the mind.
Net Applications has just released their July figures for OS share, so their figures might give you a clue.
The report is here but the tl;dr is that OSX 10.5/10.6 has a 4.3% share of the operating system market.
Out of that 4.3% of potential customers how many play games? Not that many given the Macs traditional userbase. Out of those who do, how many play Eve?
CCP make stunningly bad decisions a lot (most) of the time but I'm not at all sure this is one of them.
The report indicates that the OSX market is stagnant really - no growth at all, in fact it "shrunk" by 0.3% in the last 3-4 months, although that's got more to do with increased PC (Windows 7) sales I guess.
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Graic Valente
Gallente Valente Galactic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:19:00 -
[1589]
Originally by: Poo Ka'hontas Yup... The award has been shared between the makers of the game-series, Total War and CCP for EVE Offline (since dominion-release).
They are both outstanding in not taking feedback from the community seriously and to deliver "games" not even qualified as beta-version to the customerbase.
EVE Offline
Nearly as much fun as a 1980's "Play by Mail" during a postage strike.
Nearly.
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DECEPTIBROW
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:22:00 -
[1590]
Quote: EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game
Too bad you stopped developing your gamefor 3D space themed chat rooms a clickfest minigame and spacebook
If you were nominated for best upcoming chat simulator you'd have my vote.
Instead Conan gets it.
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Stalina
Gallente Serious Business Incorporated Fuzzy Logec
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:23:00 -
[1591]
Eve iz cool chat program, rite? ________________________________________
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:25:00 -
[1592]
Huh, no way you are going to unsticky this and let it dissapear.
HTFU CCP! HTFU! Eat your own words and weep!
I'm starting to think CCP stands for Continuously Churning out Pulp or something similar, just for fun lets see how many alternates we can come up with for the acronym CCP :P
Oh yeh also Sins of a Solar Spymaster on TenTonHammer.com is out and also commenting on this threadnaught, linky here: http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/49
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:26:00 -
[1593]
Originally by: Tarasina
Me. NGE wasn't SOE's work, it was Lucasarts. Vanguard wasn't SOE's doing, it was Brads.
EQ2...is there any better game? I haven't found one. It has one of the most mature and nicest coomunities too. Big bonus.
I'm not voting for Eve, never have, never will.
NGE was SoE's screw up caused by them desperately chasing the mainstream market in favor of the dedicated players they had (whoops incarna).
Vanguard was a product of immense hubris from a developer confident they had magical insight into the market (whoops CCP).
EQ2 was terrible on launch and largely rescued by one person (Scott Hartsman) no long on the team... but that doesn't map so well to CCP so I can't draw a humourus link... Maybe the absence of their being a CCP equivalent?
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Joey DeMaio
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:35:00 -
[1594]
I feel insulted that CCP want us to vote for them.
Lately i frequently have trouble running two accounts at once, and i don't even fly in big 0.0 fleets, sometimes using the market seems to give lag. so it looks like i might as well go from 4 paid accounts to one account using plex only.
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Tbatna
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:40:00 -
[1595]
Bump for un-sticking the sticky, why don't you just delete the topic , go on you know you want to .
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:06:00 -
[1596]
They'll wait till the 11th rolls over and at 0:00 it will magically disappear.
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Shivalla
Gallente Rollo Skull Mullet's
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:14:00 -
[1597]
Balls of Steel (tm) award goes to
[DRUMROLL]
CCP!!!
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Anticlipse
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:18:00 -
[1598]
Originally by: Othran
*snip*
Out of that 4.3% of potential customers how many play games? Not that many given the Macs traditional userbase. Out of those who do, how many play Eve?
CCP make stunningly bad decisions a lot (most) of the time but I'm not at all sure this is one of them.
The report indicates that the OSX market is stagnant really - no growth at all, in fact it "shrunk" by 0.3% in the last 3-4 months, although that's got more to do with increased PC (Windows 7) sales I guess.
Whether or not you agree with the figures or not, or you think there deserves to be an Apple client isn't so much relevant to the fact that there is one, and both Apple themselves and CCP push and advertise it. The state of the apple client is significantly worse than that of the Windows one to the point there are long standing bugs with simply jumping through gates or cap jumping, occasionally you come out the other side and your client crashes, no rhyme, no reason.
I wonder does the Apple marketing machine know of this threadnaught regarding something they advertise.
I have a problem with CCP pushing a client that doesn't work and gaining publicity for a game thats broken, above and beyond its Windows counterpart. As a Mac user I would honestly rather they axe the Mac client, announce it unsupported or beta or take some other decisive action that says "we know it doesn't work but we are focusing on other things" and stop gaining publicity from it. Either support it or don't, I don't mind which, but don't claim to and then not.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:21:00 -
[1599]
Originally by: Liandra Xi Huh, no way you are going to unsticky this and let it dissapear.
HTFU CCP! HTFU! Eat your own words and weep!
I'm starting to think CCP stands for Continuously Churning out Pulp or something similar, just for fun lets see how many alternates we can come up with for the acronym CCP :P
Oh yeh also Sins of a Solar Spymaster on TenTonHammer.com is out and also commenting on this threadnaught, linky here: http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve/spymaster/49
That article pretty much sums up the whole story completely. FWIW, I don't think CCP actually can fix the lag. I say this because the lag affects even systems with only a few people in it (experienced it myself on a losec/nullsec boundary with only 3 people in system). It's not restricted to large fleet engagments at all, and CCP's attempts to recreate the problem using massive fleets on the test server are most likely going to fail.
I sadly think that Eve is going to fail in the long term.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:24:00 -
[1600]
Originally by: Anticlipse
Originally by: Othran
*snip*
Out of that 4.3% of potential customers how many play games? Not that many given the Macs traditional userbase. Out of those who do, how many play Eve?
CCP make stunningly bad decisions a lot (most) of the time but I'm not at all sure this is one of them.
The report indicates that the OSX market is stagnant really - no growth at all, in fact it "shrunk" by 0.3% in the last 3-4 months, although that's got more to do with increased PC (Windows 7) sales I guess.
Whether or not you agree with the figures or not, or you think there deserves to be an Apple client isn't so much relevant to the fact that there is one, and both Apple themselves and CCP push and advertise it. The state of the apple client is significantly worse than that of the Windows one to the point there are long standing bugs with simply jumping through gates or cap jumping, occasionally you come out the other side and your client crashes, no rhyme, no reason.
I wonder does the Apple marketing machine know of this threadnaught regarding something they advertise.
I have a problem with CCP pushing a client that doesn't work and gaining publicity for a game thats broken, above and beyond its Windows counterpart. As a Mac user I would honestly rather they axe the Mac client, announce it unsupported or beta or take some other decisive action that says "we know it doesn't work but we are focusing on other things" and stop gaining publicity from it. Either support it or don't, I don't mind which, but don't claim to and then not.
Being the devils advocate, should CCP put their PR/Marketing people working on lag too?
CCP CEO: "FIX THAT LAG!" PR GUY: "But I'm majored in public relations! I can't understand tech stuff!" CCP CEO: "HTFU ALREADY! AND YOU, IN THE CORNER, I SEE YOU! GET SOME FOOD FOR THIS MORON WHO'S FIXING LAG!" MARKETING GUY: "But I'm working on the next marketing grand scheme for new accounts!" CCP CEO: "GTFO AND GET IN THE KITCHEN BITXH!"
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Zack Lonewolf
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:25:00 -
[1601]
Man i love CCP this is the thread that keeps on giving.
TBH if i didnt get 0.0 gates in near empty regions traffic controlling me for 2 1/2 mins for no reason when there are only 10 guys ratting next door (which hide before i can get them) then i'd vote for CCP as it is i'll vote for manic miner instead that game was awsome.
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Duske Xi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:33:00 -
[1602]
Subscription Status: Cancelled Will be suspended 12/10/2010 Total Number Of Payments: Cancel Subscription Cancellation Expires: 12/10/2010 3:56:09 AM Remaining Playtime: 128d:14h:27m
Account cancelled when Tyrannis released. Training until then..... we'll see what the future holds
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JasonKuehn
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:38:00 -
[1603]
So, I started playing WoT since so many people are talking about it and eve is so horrible lately. They have this thing on the login that says "email bug reports here."
This game is going to kill CCP if they don't get their act together and here is one reason why.
I emailed them with a minor bug report a few days ago, just in case they didn't already know about it. Nothing major, just my screen resolution keeps resetting when I restart the game.
Today I get this from an actual person:
Quote:
Dear Player,
We are working on the problem and will contact if needed.
Best regards, Tony Moris
World of Tanks Support Service http://www.worldoftanks.com
Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: YAC-797222 Department: Technical issues Priority: Low Status: In Progress
Needless to day, I'm impressed. If this were CCP, they would have either denied it existed or ignored me. Then if I took the time to prove it existed, they would have given me the run-around saying "ok, now you need to go to this other place and submit a bug report because we can't be bothered to just forward this huge ticket chain you've already wasted your time creating." Then, if I actually took the time to submit the bug report, they would still just ignore it since it's not a "new feature".
If Eve doesn't improve, I'll definitely be taking my money to WoT when the beta ends.
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Anticlipse
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:38:00 -
[1604]
Originally by: IDieAlotInGateCamps
*snip*
CCP CEO: "FIX THAT LAG!" PR GUY: "But I'm majored in public relations! I can't understand tech stuff!" CCP CEO: "HTFU ALREADY! AND YOU, IN THE CORNER, I SEE YOU! GET SOME FOOD FOR THIS MORON WHO'S FIXING LAG!" MARKETING GUY: "But I'm working on the next marketing grand scheme for new accounts!" CCP CEO: "GTFO AND GET IN THE KITCHEN BITXH!"
Don't quite follow the logic on that one. But no, I agree with the decision that the webdev team shouldn't be sent in to fix networking and game engine mechanics, it should follow that no one unqualified should be allowed near the code base. That someone had to be talked out of sending a webdev to fix this probably highlights where this all went wrong.... no qualified sane IT project manager would contemplate that course of action. If you had unqualified people working on an exceptionally complicated code base, they probably and by the view from here did, more harm would be done than good.
CCP should be hiring and allocating the right number of the right people to fight the Lag monster, bigger/more isn't better you don't bring a dread blob to fight a hac gang, you bring a few RRBS' they think they can win against and crush them. CCP have few excuses not to hire competent people, maybe they need to outsource or open up a branch office somewhere with a bigger people resource base than iceland to do it, but a team should be established, just to work on this. Why that needs to wait 18 months is slightly beyond me, the numbers they will lose in subscribers surely justify the expenditure. I would love to know the logic behind the wait, I'm sure there is some, I'm just not convinced it's good.
Then again it's so easy to judge from the outside with no facts.
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Mika Talo
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Posted - 2010.08.03 13:44:00 -
[1605]
Sorry, my votes have been allocated to new shiny games for the next 18 months. Cant be bothered to vote for existing things.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:01:00 -
[1606]
Bump Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Serotta Ortot
Gladiators of Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:10:00 -
[1607]
Originally by: Mika Talo Sorry, my votes have been allocated to new shiny games for the next 18 months. Cant be bothered to vote for existing things.
hahaha love it! 10/10
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente Hermes Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:11:00 -
[1608]
Maybe in like 18 months I'll vote for eve.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:13:00 -
[1609]
Originally by: Zack Lonewolf Man i love CCP this is the thread that keeps on giving.
I still love CCP As all my loves, it seems to be one way only...
Ah well, got my beta key for World of Tanks yesterday and I'm loving the quality (sic). Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Rage Spear
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:14:00 -
[1610]
Originally by: Mika Talo Sorry, my votes have been allocated to new shiny games for the next 18 months. Cant be bothered to vote for existing things.
This is an excellent variation on a tried and tested theme +1 from me .
Unfortunately unless things change pretty drastically soon I am going to be cancelling my accounts.
I love EvE but I'm very tired of "soon". When Dominion came and broke everything I enjoyed I thought: "Don't worry, they'll fix it soon, some things always break during an expansion and get fixed soon after" Now we are fast approaching a year on and there is no sign of progress at all.
I cannot justify waiting much longer, especially when every day that goes by burns a little of the faith I used to have in CCP. I hope that this message is getting through to you guys. You used to promise to deliver things when they're ready not rush them out to meet arbitrary deadlines, recently you have turned this on it's head and dumped quality finished products in favour of delivering poor quality (nearly) on time. This is the wrong attitude.
Good luck
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:23:00 -
[1611]
I can't vote for this with the game in the state it's in. You guys don't deserve that award this time around, CCP. Don't get me wrong, I love EvE Online a great deal, but you guys need to get things fixed up across the board.
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Jonathan Yeah
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:35:00 -
[1612]
No way, you are barely retaining my custom as it is. If you take anything from this thread it should be that you have really alienated a good chunk of your paying customers, if your competitors are reading this they must be wetting themselves.
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Kazn Antilli
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:40:00 -
[1613]
100 pages, here we come!!!!!
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:43:00 -
[1614]
And still no reply lol
Do we mean that little to you?
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devildog215
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Posted - 2010.08.03 14:59:00 -
[1615]
I feel Insulted that CCP wants us to vote for them in the state the game is at this point! jita is on a different node to and its still laggy as heck. but i mean come on what would you want us to do next vote for "Dust 514" for best online shooter ?
but eve gets my vote in "18"months if eve is still around!
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:05:00 -
[1616]
Originally by: Jamus Gorrelius And still no reply lol
Do we mean that little to you?
The peons are not worth responding to.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:20:00 -
[1617]
Originally by: Jamus Gorrelius And still no reply lol
Do we mean that little to you?
"The research does not support that caring about the current player base is more profitable than attracting new players with shiny new mini-games and half finished content and a first person shooter that we already think will tank at release".
/sarcasm off
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Delcu
Amarr Old Timers Guild Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:26:00 -
[1618]
Apparently CCP Development has been taking lessons from SOE Devs...
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Germaldi's Mum
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:30:00 -
[1619]
Originally by: devildog215 but eve gets my vote in "18"months if eve is still around![/quote
it wont get my vote even in 18months time cos ccp will only have added more broken unfinished features that will take at least another 18months to fix thats if they can be bothered to.
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Etien Aldragoran
Legitimate Corporation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:32:00 -
[1620]
Originally by: devildog215 I feel Insulted that CCP wants us to vote for them in the state the game is at this point! jita is on a different node to and its still laggy as heck. but i mean come on what would you want us to do next vote for "Dust 514" for best online shooter ?
but eve gets my vote in "18"months if eve is still around!
Market lag != combat lag. Jita is just market laggy. Any lag you get on the undock is client sided from having to load/render the models, textures, animations, and effects for whatever is on grid. If there was combat lag like you have in sov fights, etc., then you wouldn't see the considerable amount of warp scrambling notices, etc as no one would ever manage to lock one another or by the time you manage to get a lock you have to wait on the server to acknowledge that you want to shoot at someone and subsequently process whether you can do so and the results.
The game is in a functional state; otherwise you wouldn't see people actually logging in. Is the game in its promised state? Far from it. Is the game in a desired state? Not really.
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:50:00 -
[1621]
/me begins to meditate, and stream good will and karma at the ccp employee that will save us all.
When the lag gets fixed, award however had the eureka moment with a medal the size of a dinner plate.
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Touc hmebits
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:51:00 -
[1622]
I am still waiting for all the un-subbers to give me their stuff.
Don't forget, contracts then send the isk. if you do it the other way round, you won't be able to afford the contracts.
Cheers in advance
Touc
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Iana Zypher
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Posted - 2010.08.03 15:56:00 -
[1623]
Originally by: Touc hmebits I am still waiting for all the un-subbers to give me their stuff.
Don't forget, contracts then send the isk. if you do it the other way round, you won't be able to afford the contracts.
Cheers in advance
Touc
You are a ******ed idiot and you are prolly an empire bear sucking roids. You have no voice. DIAF pls.
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Gashblight
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:02:00 -
[1624]
CCP needs to hire better shills because the few working this thread are blithering idiots. |
Jerikai
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:03:00 -
[1625]
Edited by: Jerikai on 03/08/2010 16:05:05
Originally by: Touc hmebits I am still waiting for all the un-subbers to give me their stuff.
Don't forget, contracts then send the isk. if you do it the other way round, you won't be able to afford the contracts.
Cheers in advance
Touc
Just because the game is lagged out to unplayability *now* (and, uh for the last 6 months and the next 18)...
Damn, two years untill I'll reactivate my pvp account. Still, I'll want my stuff then. So, were in agreement here touc - DIAF please.
Edited for politeness. Also, where do people predict eve will come on the list of awards?
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Caan Buhaao
Gallente 72nd Squadron
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:05:00 -
[1626]
HTFU and BUMP both have four letters.
Are all the "real" devs on vacation, together, again? Is that why we haven't heard anything substantive? I guess management has laid down the policy of not touching this thread until it can be deleted on the 11th.
That's about eight or nine days too late, I think. Damage done, CCP. You might as well try to mitigate it here, on your forums, instead of with paid outsourcing goons on media websites.
We don't need stickies. We have lots of issues we can raise to keep this glued to the top of the forum until then. -- sig temporarily busted. kinda like the game. |
Iana Zypher
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:08:00 -
[1627]
Originally by: Caan Buhaao HTFU and BUMP both have four letters.
Are all the "real" devs on vacation, together, again? Is that why we haven't heard anything substantive? I guess management has laid down the policy of not touching this thread until it can be deleted on the 11th.
That's about eight or nine days too late, I think. Damage done, CCP. You might as well try to mitigate it here, on your forums, instead of with paid outsourcing goons on media websites.
We don't need stickies. We have lots of issues we can raise to keep this glued to the top of the forum until then.
Its un-stickied already, next step is to lock and/or delete the thread.
We will continue then on major Online game sites
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Lore Hedra
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:11:00 -
[1628]
It's probably been asked above but....
".....initiatives like Stackless IO.
'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for."
1) Stackless IO was almost 2 years ago, what have they done since then?
2) Regarding the No.1 development priority, has anything more been said about this or is it a blatant lie?
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:16:00 -
[1629]
Originally by: Lore Hedra It's probably been asked above but....
".....initiatives like Stackless IO.
'Currently, unsurprisingly, this effort is our No.1 development priority and we have given the specialised team carte blanche in re-attaining 1,000+ player fleet battles that EVE is famous for."
1) Stackless IO was almost 2 years ago, what have they done since then?
2) Regarding the No.1 development priority, has anything more been said about this or is it a blatant lie?
The point about StacklessIO crossed my mind today as well and was written as a quick response by some marketing droid who wouldn't recognise a line of python code if it bit them between their legs. The whole comment was basically just damage control, but thankfully, most people seem to have recognised it as such.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:20:00 -
[1630]
Zymurgist troll best troll?
did I do that right?
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:21:00 -
[1631]
***bumpage***
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Linn Zypher
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:26:00 -
[1632]
Stackless IO gave us some good fights 8 months ago, according to the devs.
Then they hired some monkeys who don't know **** about networking/load/shards/whatever and they ****ed up our game.
Let's see what any idiot knows about the changes which were introduced when Dominion killed EVE:
- Fleet finder (with loot tracking) - Map updates - SOV changes
So, my dear bug-hunting devs: disable that crap and see what happens.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:41:00 -
[1633]
I fond it very interesting that the moderators/Devs are all over the rest of the forums with comments/editing/removing...yet they are strangely absent from this thread...hmmmmmmm.
...just sayin'
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Sheky Nine
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:42:00 -
[1634]
Hey, how come there is no new feature to vote from game?
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:44:00 -
[1635]
Originally by: Linn Zypher
So, my dear bug-hunting devs: disable that crap and see what happens.
Shouldn't be an issue, CCP Devs have been working with disabilities for years...
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SWJesus
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:44:00 -
[1636]
maybe one Day when CCp can stand up to its own adertisment, " Epic battles amongs thousand of players"
500+ ppl in local and lag/non cycleing guns/gridloads is boyond barable, have more then 1k players on the same grid and its quite normal to wait soem 5 mins for grid, have 10 mins blackscreen and wake up in clonebay without seeing anything from the fight.
in which mental insane state did CCP think the ongoing issues in the game that so many players keep moaning about sicne quite a while will deserv them the "best Online Game". -- Having nice complex features and a lot of bling bling is one thing, but if all those game mechanics and up in a pile of Sxxt if ppl actually put them into action.... the idear of eve and its therotecial game mechanics might apply as good or even as BEST, but the overallgame shoudl shurly NOT. -- FIX LAG, FIX Stuck gunz in large fights, FIX Gridloads, and FIX blackscreen and you have my vote CCP
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Entaran
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:45:00 -
[1637]
There's no need for DUST514 (or whatever it's called) to be a success. PI is SO BAD that people are leaving the clickfest in droves and just completely ignoring their command centres. Of course, this won't get fixed until sometime in 2016 so yeah.
All my accounts are currently on month by month basis, lets me bail if it gets more garbage.
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David Grogan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 16:58:00 -
[1638]
PI would be better if we could set the extractors on a week long cycle.... so we have less clickfesting SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
Zorlox
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:02:00 -
[1639]
Still no real dev response.
I guess that shows just how much CCP care.
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Xpaulusx
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:09:00 -
[1640]
Originally by: Iana Zypher
Originally by: Touc hmebits I am still waiting for all the un-subbers to give me their stuff.
Don't forget, contracts then send the isk. if you do it the other way round, you won't be able to afford the contracts.
Cheers in advance
Touc
You are a ******ed idiot and you are prolly an empire bear sucking roids. You have no voice. DIAF pls.
Agree's, Empire Turds have no voice, come to 0 sec where the metal meets the meat, then run your mouth, otherwise STFU.
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Ravenesa
The Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:17:00 -
[1641]
Originally by: Xpaulusx Agree's, Empire Turds have no voice, come to 0 sec where the metal meets the meat, then run your mouth, otherwise STFU.
Don't even need to go to Null for that, I've seen 20-40 ships dropped in lowsec systems that cause a lag spike, grid lock, etc. Black Ops jump portaling a swamp of recons/SB's can crash a system just as well as a cap drop.
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Insane Randomness
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:34:00 -
[1642]
You know, maybe we should all travel to CCP's front doors in IceLAnd and start banging on their "Epic Server" and see if they'll listen. I bet they wouldn't ignore us like they are now...
TO THE AIRPORT!!! |
oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:42:00 -
[1643]
many of then veterans still log in because they are reluctant to leave so much invested money, time and emotions behind.
there is however some limit to everything.
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Zane Rio
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:47:00 -
[1644]
LOL 55 Pages and still going. It is time for CCP to give us a listen and try and work this out. Test server testing is a joke so why not start looking at the lag on the live servers.
Oh and BTW the undock button is on the lower left corner of your screen.
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fpshacker
Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:03:00 -
[1645]
Was going to vote but i can't because i get blackscreened every time i try to log in, I think im voting for age of conan instead
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Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:08:00 -
[1646]
I'm reporting this thread for trolling.
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Harmone Princess
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:13:00 -
[1647]
I am so mad at CCP for turning this game into broken garbage. I have had ENOUGH!
"Your account is currently expired"
*Pays $15*
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:20:00 -
[1648]
:ccp:
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:20:00 -
[1649]
Well i voted for you EvE my love.
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Jita Jolbeth
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:21:00 -
[1650]
Edited by: Jita Jolbeth on 03/08/2010 18:22:27 I enjoy playing EVE but I won't vote for it. If they manage to realign with the core vision of the game, I'll be the first to support it next year. The funny part of this whole debacle, though, is that AOC is likely to win this poll even though they're even more of a fail game. I'd like to be in on their Monday morning marketing meeting (lots of m's there) when the results are revealed!
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:51:00 -
[1651]
To the top with you!
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:53:00 -
[1652]
Wut you are still here? What happened with World of Tanks, are you enjoying it already? K, if you don't want to talk let's see what other people have to say about that incredible game.
(some random quotes from WoT forums):
Quote: -- For the millionth time today, got out of a match on the countdown, most my arty shells dont even hit the ground, the tanks still appear as if they were phasing in-out of sight...
-- I cant login for hours it says the server is busy
-- Lag is terrible whenever I see more than 10 people on screen; after that game usually crashes
-- Can't seem to connect to the servers and can't get the game to start
-- Sometimes it loads fine and other times it will go to the battle loading screen, the progress bar will go all the way up and then I hear the timer (and sometimes hear tanks moving/firing) I can see my view finder moving on the minimap when I move my mouse but I am unable to physically move the tank
-- I get the connection lost message before match start, have to log in again. Now my tank is on battle, I get 0 exp & cash, and have to pay repairs grrr
-- seems to lag out my system fully to the state that my system doesnt respond
-- WoT beta crashes when trying to connect
-- the game freezes over and over again... cannot play... Some times I can Alt-Tab but the rest of the times I have to Hard Reboot. I can still talk to my brother on vent but the image on the screen is frozen... Can someone tell me whats going on??
-- Been gettin dropped lately too. Lots of lag.
-- Had trouble logging in myself this morning = just got the "disconnected from server" message. Now I'm getting "a player with the same name is already in the game". Wtf?!?
So hurry up, it sure sounds like fun!
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Vortine
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:55:00 -
[1653]
Voted Eve Online for best upcoming 3D chat room, best clickfest minigame (farmville in space), and best mmo social networking site.
Too bad it seems the only people that care about any of these "features" are CCP.
Maybe it's because they don't really want to play a sandbox pvp game, and they're more interested in second life.
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:03:00 -
[1654]
Edited by: Hue Janus on 03/08/2010 19:04:02 Do you like your jobs CCP employees? Well I suggest you pay serious attention to the amount of p*ssed off players you seem to have at the moment. Get on here, say sorry to everyone and fix all the problems or I predict that even an average rival will be getting all your much needed business...and I really hope you are not counting on Dust to save you, chances are it will suck b*lls. Then again you could always turn to banking...oh wait no you can't
Cod fishing it is then...
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:07:00 -
[1655]
Originally by: Zane Rio LOL 55 Pages and still going. It is time for CCP to give us a listen and try and work this out. Test server testing is a joke so why not start looking at the lag on the live servers.
Oh and BTW the undock button is on the lower left corner of your screen.
Delete all the alt poasts by the usual suspects and I bet it would barely break page 6. Then delete all the fleet fight ragers and I bet it would have been a nice thread.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:08:00 -
[1656]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Zane Rio LOL 55 Pages and still going. It is time for CCP to give us a listen and try and work this out. Test server testing is a joke so why not start looking at the lag on the live servers.
Oh and BTW the undock button is on the lower left corner of your screen.
Delete all the alt poasts by the usual suspects and I bet it would barely break page 6. Then delete all the fleet fight ragers and I bet it would have been a nice thread.
[sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Yifan on 03/08/2010 19:22:46
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Yes, we are fully aware that 90% of people play primarily in high-sec, and we should keep our mouths shut and kiss CCP's $insert_bodypart_here even if they decided that they will completely abandon all null and low-sec because, well, most people dont go there anyway.
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Saturday You guys either have really big balls or you're just plain pants-on-head.
Monkey, ever since you said this I have been trying to figure out which. 56 pages and a week later, I've about decided it's gotta be the pants. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:33:00 -
[1660]
Originally by: Captain Yifan Edited by: Captain Yifan on 03/08/2010 19:22:46
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Yes, we are fully aware that 90% of people play primarily in high-sec, and we should keep our mouths shut and kiss CCP's $insert_bodypart_here even if they decided that they will completely abandon all null and low-sec because, well, most people dont go there anyway.
Rofl. 90% of every alliances members are in high sec grinding for isk waiting for when there is some op to be run. Wake up people as the vast chunk of each alliance is made up of empire carebears anyways so not having fleet fights is just a single thing they don't get to do. So that leaves the other 99% of the content eve has to offer open for them to persue.
Which brings us to the vocal minority of players in these same alliances who only do fleet fights and have been left with no content to play at all. Well sorry for you that ccp decided to develop the game in a way that left your extremly small demographic in the cold harsh universe with nothing to do whilst providing lots of stuff for the other 99% of the players in the game with copious amounts of fun stuff to fill their playtime. I mean really if you just have to get those caps out and shooting at something then look into faction warfare as they are the ones who are still actively using caps on a daily basis. So explore your options instead of sitting in front of your computer venting hate that helps noone and only hurts yourself.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:40:00 -
[1661]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Captain Yifan Edited by: Captain Yifan on 03/08/2010 19:22:46
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free. Not to say that everything is perfect but by and large the game is quite stable and has enough quality content to last a new or not so new player for years and years. Provided they partake of it of course and don't simply stick to one single solitary feature for their enjoyment like a drowning man clutches at a straw.
Yes, we are fully aware that 90% of people play primarily in high-sec, and we should keep our mouths shut and kiss CCP's $insert_bodypart_here even if they decided that they will completely abandon all null and low-sec because, well, most people dont go there anyway.
Rofl. 90% of every alliances members are in high sec grinding for isk waiting for when there is some op to be run. Wake up people as the vast chunk of each alliance is made up of empire carebears anyways so not having fleet fights is just a single thing they don't get to do. So that leaves the other 99% of the content eve has to offer open for them to persue.
Which brings us to the vocal minority of players in these same alliances who only do fleet fights and have been left with no content to play at all. Well sorry for you that ccp decided to develop the game in a way that left your extremly small demographic in the cold harsh universe with nothing to do whilst providing lots of stuff for the other 99% of the players in the game with copious amounts of fun stuff to fill their playtime. I mean really if you just have to get those caps out and shooting at something then look into faction warfare as they are the ones who are still actively using caps on a daily basis. So explore your options instead of sitting in front of your computer venting hate that helps noone and only hurts yourself.
are you crazy lol... 99% of most alliances are not in high sec... you must be a complete idiot to make that statement. lol
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Hue Janus
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:42:00 -
[1662]
Then if that is the case CCP should stop advertising 'massive fleet fights' etc...because its a lie. Plain and simple.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:46:00 -
[1663]
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine are you crazy lol... 99% of most alliances are not in high sec... you must be a complete idiot to make that statement. lol
100% of territory holding alliances are in nullsec. But the vast majority of their thousands of members are all in low sec or high sec enjoying the game. They only log in the aaliance cap ship alts when there is a fight to be had. So that leaves the alliance heads(who are making all the real isk anyways) and the very small core of fleet fight only players who 'live' in nullsec and make up the small/med pvp gangs you usually run across. So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:49:00 -
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lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.
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Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:54:00 -
[1665]
Originally by: Zeba
Rofl. 90% of every alliances members are in high sec grinding for isk waiting for when there is some op to be run. Wake up people as the vast chunk of each alliance is made up of empire carebears anyways so not having fleet fights is just a single thing they don't get to do. So that leaves the other 99% of the content eve has to offer open for them to persue.
If you want to be treated seriously on an internetz forum, you should:
1. Stop trolling
2. Stop being ignorant
Have you ever been in a 0.0 corp/alliance? Let me put it this way, do I even need to ask? If we want to do high-sec carebear stuff, why do we join a 0.0 Alliance in order to do it? Because the tax rate is higher? Because there's constant wardeccs from rival alliances? Because you have to constantly watch your local for reds so you dont get ganked?
Originally by: Zeba Which brings us to the vocal minority of players
Let me put it this way, you are the vocal minority, if you havent realised it yet, then you need to train counting to lvl 0.1. Using your fingers and toes is a good start.
Originally by: Zeba Well sorry for you that ccp decided to develop the game in a way that left your extremly small demographic in the cold harsh universe with nothing to do
And beating up the staw-man certainly increases your credibility. We are not mad about having nothing to do, we are mad about CCP's attitude that they know there's a problem but they are not going to fix it anyway because they are busy with a FPS that is not even on the same console of EvE.
Originally by: Zeba whilst providing lots of stuff for the other 99% of the players in the game with copious amounts of fun stuff to fill their playtime.
Enjoy clicking your extrators, shooting lasers on asteroids, or rescuing the same damsel again and again and again...and again. I hope you dont get bored.
Originally by: Zeba I mean really if you just have to get those caps out and shooting at something then look into faction warfare as they are the ones who are still actively using caps on a daily basis.
Confirming that the fleet of Thanatos, Nyx and Nidhoggor used by AAA against Mostly Harmless in EC are not caps. They are indeed frigates. Also, confirming that faction warfare is not broken and CCP has done a great job leaving them not broken.
Originally by: Zeba So explore your options
And we found that one of the options is to give CCP a kick in the backside so it works harder to improve EvE instead of Dust. You have a problem with it? gb2 dust514.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:55:00 -
[1666]
Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 19:56:42
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.
Sure there is some level of that in every alliance but each system can only support so much of that due to spawn rates which still leaves the vast majority of members to seek the not quite as good but still excellent isk of highsec. But tell me this? Are those activites lagged out when there is no fleet fight eating up the nodes performance? Or is anyone even remotely disatisfied with the content they provide? Hmmmm? Remember the entire game is supposedly broken and unplayable if you do anything in nullsec says the annoyed fleet fight players.
Originally by: Captain Yifan
wat is this i dont even
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:57:00 -
[1667]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine are you crazy lol... 99% of most alliances are not in high sec... you must be a complete idiot to make that statement. lol
100% of territory holding alliances are in nullsec. But the vast majority of their thousands of members are all in low sec or high sec enjoying the game. They only log in the aaliance cap ship alts when there is a fight to be had. So that leaves the alliance heads(who are making all the real isk anyways) and the very small core of fleet fight only players who 'live' in nullsec and make up the small/med pvp gangs you usually run across. So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
You are not particularly intelligent are you. Why in blue **** would people trade up null sec for high sec, 0.0 you make several times the income of high sec crap. And 0.0 allows far more varied smaller gang pvp if thats what you are angling about.
The actual game changing(and the things that give eve their name) fights are broken. Especially now ccp likes to advertise such massive fights thus misleading advertisement.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:58:00 -
[1668]
Originally by: Zeba So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
Alright, thread's officially over, Zeba is here.
Also lol at CCP and this thread. --
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:00:00 -
[1669]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/08/2010 20:02:18
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.
Sure there is some level of that in every alliance but each system can only support so much of that due to spawn rates which still leaves the vast majority of members to seek the not quite as good but still excellent isk of highsec. But tell me this? Are those activites lagged out when there is no fleet fight eating up the nodes performance? Or is anyone even remotely disatisfied with the content they provide? Hmmmm? Remember the entire game is supposedly broken and unplayable if you do anything in nullsec says the annoyed fleet fight players.
Zeba, with all due respect...the point your missing is that the game does not do what CCP promised it WOULD do, what it is STILL advertised to do, what it DID 2 expansions ago.
You have to admit that comments like "Research does support that..." and "We will address these issues in 18 months after we finish DUST514", are bound to set the player base off like dynamite. Especially when they are followed by "Vote for eVe...".
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:05:00 -
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Im assuming that the people who have gone to empire to make money are either:
a) like me, manufacturing, market manipulating, trading in general. Immune to lag. b) level 4 missioning. been a while since I did this, but I dont remeber making more than 10m an hour. A deacent 0.0 anomanly is what, 50mil? and that without even getting into good x/10 signitures. c) scared of the nasty reds, and preffer their concord net
Anyway, ccp, if you dont want to respond to this thread directly, could you communicate in some way to us about the lag? Some sort of "what is lag" devblog or something? or a plan of how you intend on making pvp fun in some way again?
Bitter, I know. But dammit, I miss playing eve. Fleet fights are eve, no spreadsheeting in empire. On the plus side, when I come back, I'll have a stack of ships a mile high :D
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:06:00 -
[1671]
Originally by: Syn Callibri Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/08/2010 20:02:18
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine lol... you must live in empire... since most of the alliances i know do plexes and ratting.
Sure there is some level of that in every alliance but each system can only support so much of that due to spawn rates which still leaves the vast majority of members to seek the not quite as good but still excellent isk of highsec. But tell me this? Are those activites lagged out when there is no fleet fight eating up the nodes performance? Or is anyone even remotely disatisfied with the content they provide? Hmmmm? Remember the entire game is supposedly broken and unplayable if you do anything in nullsec says the annoyed fleet fight players.
Zeba, with all due respect...the point your missing is that the game does not do what CCP promised it WOULD do, what it is STILL advertised to do, what it DID 2 expansions ago.
You have to admit that comments like "Research does support that..." and "We will address these issues in 18 months after we finish DUST514", are bound to set the player base off like dynamite. Especially when they are followed by "Vote for eVe...".
QFT.
Also, shameless bump.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:09:00 -
[1672]
Collective reply:
One needs only to keep track of the map with pilots active in space to see that nullsec is hardly ever populated except for when there is a fight going on. So where are all these tens of thousands of alliance members at then? Oh yeah in low sec and high sec on their alts. It might even be true that the entirely of an alliances members are literally in nullsec at all times but those same members are still in low sec and high sec with their alts playing the game. How do I know this? Because I play right along with them in fw. Most are bored with nullsec due to the blobbyness or lack of fights but still stay joined to the corp on the cap ship main for those times when there is some action to be had. Also to the ones now defending the population of nullsec with the cry of 'zomg we do other stuff in lullsec besides fleet fights and we NEVER go to high sec so how dare you compare me to a carebear!!!111' welp it sure must be pretty playable in nullsec then.. Seems you guys keep cutting your own arguments legs off in mid stride.. So what is it? Is eve broken and unplayable or not?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:16:00 -
[1673]
Originally by: Zeba Collective reply:
One needs only to keep track of the map with pilots active in space to see that nullsec is hardly ever populated except for when there is a fight going on. So where are all these tens of thousands of alliance members at then? Oh yeah in low sec and high sec on their alts. It might even be true that the entirely of an alliances members are literally in nullsec at all times but those same members are still in low sec and high sec with their alts playing the game. How do I know this? Because I play right along with them in fw. Most are bored with nullsec due to the blobbyness or lack of fights but still stay joined to the corp on the cap ship main for those times when there is some action to be had. Also to the ones now defending the population of nullsec with the cry of 'zomg we do other stuff in lullsec besides fleet fights and we NEVER go to high sec so how dare you compare me to a carebear!!!111' welp it sure must be pretty playable in nullsec then.. Seems you guys keep cutting your own arguments legs off in mid stride.. So what is it? Is eve broken and unplayable or not?
Did you ever wonder WHY Null-Sec is so underpopulated these days? I'm not even a veteran null-sec player and I can figure it out...
To take and hold territory in null-sec requires FLEETS, and fleetbattles lag out and go *flop*.
...not that difficult when really think about the issue.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Srialia
Misfit Toys
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:24:00 -
[1674]
Edited by: Srialia on 03/08/2010 20:24:32
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Did you ever wonder WHY Null-Sec is so underpopulated these days? I'm not even a veteran null-sec player and I can figure it out...
To take and hold territory in null-sec requires FLEETS, and fleetbattles lag out and go *flop*.
...not that difficult when really think about the issue.
Of course he knows. He's just trolling; it's all he does no matter what thread he's in. That's just fine, as his constant f5ing is keeping this thread glued to the top of the forum where it should be, a giant visible mark of shame that showcases how little CCP respects its player base right now.
I also won't be giving CCP another dime until they convince me they are actually working on the game I'm subscribing to. It's a shame, because in theory, EVE offers something almost no other game does, which is freedom. I don't do the sov thing at the moment, but I can see the writing on the wall - CCP doesn't want to support their own game. Until they make a radical shift in their development philosophy, I won't be supporting CCP.
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:28:00 -
[1675]
Edited by: sue denim on 03/08/2010 20:29:21
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing [sarcasm] Yes, as we all want a giant circlejerk about how great ccp is [/sarcasm]
For the 90% of eve that doesn't play nor care about fleet fights? Sure, why not, as pretty much everything else in the game past fleet fights is playable and lag free.
no, it's damn well not even close.
edit: and if you think they play on alts in highsec and lowsec all the time your dumb :| most of them are out in .0, spread out.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:30:00 -
[1676]
Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 20:32:52
Originally by: Syn Callibri Did you ever wonder WHY Null-Sec is so underpopulated these days? I'm not even a veteran null-sec player and I can figure it out...
To take and hold territory in null-sec requires FLEETS, and fleetbattles lag out and go *flop*.
...not that difficult when really think about the issue.
Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag. At least not when you have level 4 agents to use instead with the high sec alts.
As far as taking and holding territory the sov changes after dominion and the vast amount of territory that was freed up meant all you really needed to claim territory is something that can haul and anchor the needed mods. Somehow I don't think having playble fleet fights would have helped that situation any.
Also as has been pointed out nothing else in nullsec is broken in that you can make all the isk your little heart desires lag free(provided yet again someone isn't forming up a fleet or already running the site) in the plethora of new content that everyone seems to never mention that was introduced with dominion.
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Zeba So yeah 99% of most alliances members are hardly ever in nullsec.
Alright, thread's officially over, Zeba is here.
It's not quite over yet. They tend to keep twitching for a bit under the harsh light of logic. But any twitch replys will be dealt with accourdingly.
Originally by: Catari Taga Also lol at CCP and this thread.
The thread was officially over when zym hit the make new topic button. Whilst I think the thread is full of rightfully angry players who are rather annoyed at the delay in getting fleet fights fixed the game is nowhere as broken as their toxic spins are making it out to be. So it could have been a good thread if there wasn't such an upswing in the common Angry Fleet Fight Giy on the street that seems to be the norm lately.
Originally by: sue denim edit: and if you think they play on alts in highsec and lowsec all the time your dumb :| most of them are out in .0, spread out.
*opens map* I can't find them.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Captain Yifan
Shadows Of The Requiem Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:32:00 -
[1677]
Originally by: Zeba Is eve broken and unplayable or not?
I'm not saying the game is broken (now define the word 'broken'?). To me, WoW and all the other MMOs are 10000 times more broken than EvE on its worst day. I will say this one last time: Your argument is based on a staw man fallacy:
What we are mad/angry/emorage/fuming/upset about, is the fact that CCP proudly declares publically (well, have to admire their honesty, though) that it is not going to fix multiple issues (including ones that actually concerns high-sec activities and FW, aka, ones that matters to you) despite acknowledge it a long time ago, and now is bold (shameless, pants on head?) enough to appeal to us to vote for them in a gaming reward. While you are claiming that we are mad because we feel the game is dying because we cant 'blob vs blob' anymore.
To summarise, EvE is not dying, and while it has bugs that needs to be resolved it is still a very deep, immersive and entertaining game. However, when CCP decides to treat its playerbase like $insert_obscene_object then there will be an inevitable kick in the backside to remind them that who actually feed their hamsters.
I have nothing more to say on this matter. and, last, shameless bump.
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Rewt ed
Caldari Singularity. Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:35:00 -
[1678]
who was that guy with all the bad ideas for super caps? Nozah or something? Did they promote him to deciding how resources should be allocated for development?
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:42:00 -
[1679]
Originally by: Captain Yifan
Originally by: Zeba Is eve broken and unplayable or not?
I'm not saying the game is broken (now define the word 'broken'?). To me, WoW and all the other MMOs are 10000 times more broken than EvE on its worst day. I will say this one last time: Your argument is based on a staw man fallacy:
What we are mad/angry/emorage/fuming/upset about, is the fact that CCP proudly declares publically (well, have to admire their honesty, though) that it is not going to fix multiple issues (including ones that actually concerns high-sec activities and FW, aka, ones that matters to you) despite acknowledge it a long time ago, and now is bold (shameless, pants on head?) enough to appeal to us to vote for them in a gaming reward. While you are claiming that we are mad because we feel the game is dying because we cant 'blob vs blob' anymore.
To summarise, EvE is not dying, and while it has bugs that needs to be resolved it is still a very deep, immersive and entertaining game. However, when CCP decides to treat its playerbase like $insert_obscene_object then there will be an inevitable kick in the backside to remind them that who actually feed their hamsters.
I have nothing more to say on this matter. and, last, shameless bump.
QFT
*bump* Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:43:00 -
[1680]
Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 20:45:03
Originally by: Rewt ed who was that guy with all the bad ideas for super caps? Nozah or something? Did they promote him to deciding how resources should be allocated for development?
I love when people keep bringing this up. CCP troll best troll imo.
Originally by: Captain Yifan I'm not saying the game is broken
You personally might not be but the other 56 pages of this thread seem to pooint in that general direction.
Originally by: Captain Yifan What we are mad/angry/emorage/fuming/upset about, is the fact that CCP proudly declares publically (well, have to admire their honesty, though) that it is not going to fix multiple issues (including ones that actually concerns high-sec activities and FW, aka, ones that matters to you) despite acknowledge it a long time ago, and now is bold (shameless, pants on head?) enough to appeal to us to vote for them in a gaming reward. While you are claiming that we are mad because we feel the game is dying because we cant 'blob vs blob' anymore.
Again don't know about you personally but the rest of the thread seems to hinge on the fact that broken fleet fight = dead eve ergo the game sux and must be flamed no matter what. And yes I'm hopping mad about fw and the lack of development on it but otoh it still provides me with plenty of pew pew which is what its really all about anyways. So yeah fw could use some major renovation especially with certain standings issues and plexing in general but the free wardec mechanic and plenty of former(or current) nullsec players to chat with in gang is still pretty darn fun and so I don't go emo on ccp hoping that one day they fix it.
Originally by: Captain Yifan To summarise, EvE is not dying, and while it has bugs that needs to be resolved it is still a very deep, immersive and entertaining game. However, when CCP decides to treat its playerbase like $insert_obscene_object then there will be an inevitable kick in the backside to remind them that who actually feed their hamsters.
I have nothing more to say on this matter. and, last, shameless bump.
Well to be fair the 90% of eve that lives in high sec feed the hamsters. So trying the do as we want or everyone in nullsec quits is about as threatening to ccp as just a single person ragequiting. Besides if that happened all the carebear alliances would move in on the empty territory and nap up forever.
And yes pls keep the bumping. People will read the first page or two and /facepalm then skip to the end and so miss all the self centered idiocy to see the light of logic.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 20:52:00 -
[1681]
Thank you Zeba for generating content in a stale thread.
This thread convinced me to finally cancel my sub. $15/month was never a hard sell for me. While I'll still pay by PLEX, and CCP will still gain my money, they will lose the subscribed account they previously could count on to be around at the next interval. Perhaps I've been a fool to subscribe for this long?
Hopefully it'll have a net positive effect. The lack of perceived tenacity on CCP's part in resolving the fleet lag issues needs addressing, badly. Yes, I've read the CCP responses, but the majority of them feel like damage control. Make me believe again.
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State Citizen
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:01:00 -
[1682]
I've been playing EVE for 2.5 years now. At one time I had 4 accounts. I'm down to 2 now and when one of them requires renewal at the end of the month I'm thinking of letting it laspe.
I'm going to keep my main going for a while longer but I can hardly be bothered to log in anymore.
CCP - you need to polish features and listen to your playerbase. Positive word of mouth and loyal customers will generate more money then relying on new and temporary 3 month turnarounds.
So, no I will not vote for you for all the reasons already stated in this threadnaught.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:12:00 -
[1683]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: sue denim edit: and if you think they play on alts in highsec and lowsec all the time your dumb :| most of them are out in .0, spread out.
*opens map* I can't find them.
They all quit the game already.
No but seriously to say the complaints are only about 0.0 fleet fight lag is grossly missing the point. I haven't been in a big fleet fight ever but I've noticed the lag introduced with Dominion and I find myself hardly logging in since Tyrannis since I cannot stand all the big and little broken things anymore that make up so much of the game play of EVE.
I have not posted in this thread before since I do not think it makes a difference, if CCP's focus is moving away from the core game so will I (only I won't follow where they go) and I won't froth at the mouth about it although I understand why so many do it, the core of the game is awesome and it is a shame to see it neglected. --
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:15:00 -
[1684]
Originally by: Cire XIII Thank you Zeba for generating content in a stale thread.
np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.
Originally by: Cire XIII This thread convinced me to finally cancel my sub. $15/month was never a hard sell for me. While I'll still pay by PLEX, and CCP will still gain my money, they will lose the subscribed account they previously could count on to be around at the next interval. Perhaps I've been a fool to subscribe for this long?
If the one part of the game that isn't working for you is no longer enjoyable yeah it might be a bit foolish to keep your sub up. I would say try something else the game offers instead but if fleet fights really are your only interest then unsubbing is probably the best idea for the time being. Why prolong the agony?
Originally by: Cire XIII Hopefully it'll have a net positive effect. The lack of perceived tenacity on CCP's part in resolving the fleet lag issues needs addressing, badly. Yes, I've read the CCP responses, but the majority of them feel like damage control. Make me believe again.
If you step out of Angry Fleet Fight Guy mode and take a few steps back you will see that after Dominion not being able to have huge fleet fights was the best thing that could have happened to the nullsec game. Now instead of the instant chaos and the resultant market uncertainty of constant warefare over moons and pos production facilities we have had a nice long time of peace so nullsec is the most poplated and active it has ever been in its entire history. Lots of people mine and plex and rat and do small gang pew pew and a zillion other things that are not fleet fight related. Now stop and think if any of this would have been possible with the top alliances being able to hotdrop a few hundred supercaps anywhere they wanted at a whim on anyone trying to make a claim on the newly freed up territory or just for the lulz of killing a ratter with a supercap hotdrop.
Nah.. not a bit of bias in this whole drama at all. Not a drop.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:19:00 -
[1685]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/08/2010 21:19:03
Originally by: Zeba np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.
Is this a case of using FIRE to fight FIRE...oh wait!
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:23:00 -
[1686]
Edited by: Undertow Latheus on 03/08/2010 21:26:01
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Wut you are still here? What happened with World of Tanks, are you enjoying it already? K, if you don't want to talk let's see what other people have to say about that incredible game.
(some random quotes from WoT forums):
Quote: -- For the millionth time today, got out of a match on the countdown, most my arty shells dont even hit the ground, the tanks still appear as if they were phasing in-out of sight...
-- I cant login for hours it says the server is busy
-- Lag is terrible whenever I see more than 10 people on screen; after that game usually crashes
-- Can't seem to connect to the servers and can't get the game to start
-- Sometimes it loads fine and other times it will go to the battle loading screen, the progress bar will go all the way up and then I hear the timer (and sometimes hear tanks moving/firing) I can see my view finder moving on the minimap when I move my mouse but I am unable to physically move the tank
-- I get the connection lost message before match start, have to log in again. Now my tank is on battle, I get 0 exp & cash, and have to pay repairs grrr
-- seems to lag out my system fully to the state that my system doesnt respond
-- WoT beta crashes when trying to connect
-- the game freezes over and over again... cannot play... Some times I can Alt-Tab but the rest of the times I have to Hard Reboot. I can still talk to my brother on vent but the image on the screen is frozen... Can someone tell me whats going on??
-- Been gettin dropped lately too. Lots of lag.
-- Had trouble logging in myself this morning = just got the "disconnected from server" message. Now I'm getting "a player with the same name is already in the game". Wtf?!?
So hurry up, it sure sounds like fun!
I haven't had any of that happen to me. I experience some lag but that's just because of my crappy internet and my average ping in the upper 200's. The only bugs I've encountered is one rare UI bug where my aim reticule doesn't tighten even though my accuracy is unaffected, and at long ranges sometimes tanks appear to warp. However, you have to keep in mind that this is Closed Beta for a free to play game, so I think it's pretty good that the warping is the only semi-serious thing i've encountered.
Also you're I looked up the threads from your first two quotes. In the first one everyone tells him to quit *****ing and that the whole point of a CBT is to iron out bugs. In the second quote he replies to the thread saying, "EDIT: logged in"
All in all I think it's pretty damn stable for a CBT of a F2P game, and it's good fun.
EDIT: And also, you're acting like these things don't happen in eve, a goliath mmo with 7 years of polish. I don't think a WoT player has ever complained about the updater deleting their Boot.ini
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:28:00 -
[1687]
Edited by: Zeba on 03/08/2010 21:31:04
Originally by: Catari Taga They all quit the game already.
If fw is any indication I know where a good chunk of them ended up.
Originally by: Catari Taga No but seriously to say the complaints are only about 0.0 fleet fight lag is grossly missing the point. I haven't been in a big fleet fight ever but I've noticed the lag introduced with Dominion and I find myself hardly logging in since Tyrannis since I cannot stand all the big and little broken things anymore that make up so much of the game play of EVE.
I will assume that you do all this stuff in nullsec as the rest of the content is perfectly playable in high sec. So the lag you are experienceing has nothing to do with the fleet fight lag. Its simply the general lag due to the very low amount of servers that are seeded in nullsec. Even before dominion if you were alone in a system and a playable but slightly laggy fleet fight happened on an unreinforced node that your system was on then you too would lag. Tbh all this yelling at ccp over fleet lag has given them the ability to dodge the real issues for general nullsec laggyness that noone ever yells for. What would this simple measure be that would make the average non fleet fight guys expeience in nullsec better?
Quit putting entire nullsec regions on a single cpu and get MOAR SERVERS!! so a fleet fight 20 jumps away doesn't ruin your small gang fun.
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba np. Quashing self centered ignorance is a hobby of mine.
Is this a case of using FIRE to fight FIRE...oh wait!
They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:44:00 -
[1688]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/08/2010 21:44:12
Originally by: Zeba They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.
But I...you...but...your a...wait...WHAT?
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Albetta
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:47:00 -
[1689]
Lol @ CCP. Tell me to vote when lag has been fixed, ok?
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:51:00 -
[1690]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 03/08/2010 21:52:14
Originally by: Zeba If you step out of Angry Fleet Fight Guy mode and take a few steps back you will see that after Dominion not being able to have huge fleet fights was the best thing that could have happened to the nullsec game.
Originally by: Zeba Now instead of the instant chaos and the resultant market uncertainty of constant warefare over moons and pos production facilities we have had a nice long time of peace so nullsec is the most poplated and active it has ever been in its entire history.]
Nice trolling brah.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:57:00 -
[1691]
/moar popcorn...nom-nom-nom.
CCP...FIX OUR CURRENT GAME CONTENT
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:04:00 -
[1692]
Edited by: Cire XIII on 03/08/2010 22:06:06 Edit: Forum formatting sucks.
If you take a couple steps forward and a little closer at, specifically, fleet battles over sovereignty you can see that removing the lag should achieve the same positives you speak of and more. It does not take a large gang to roam through 0.0 space and disrupt mining/ratting/transport. Of course it is only a temporary setback and the only ones caught are not paying attention, learning the game, encountering a spell of bad luck, or getting high on risk. There are not many exceptions. The end message is that it is temporary.
Contested sovereignty is just like uncontested sovereignty only thereÆs a little more traffic in the area and those timers to be paying attention to. There are significant, and multiple hurdles in place now to keep systems from flopping when defended. The bulk of the sovereignty changes in dominion have been from a failure to pay bills, loss of will to fight, and/or infiltration by spies/individuals. Yes, moon mining is probably more stable than itÆs ever been due to the lag, but itÆs much easier to take out a mining POS in lag than take a system. And I think the current Power Block mentality is the real root. Lag doesnÆt stop us from dropping 50 dreads on a couple towers. The rise in popularity of 0.0, despite the displacement of NRDS Providence is more likely a result of the changes in Dominoin and I donÆt mean the lag. Anomalies are a blessing to the solo ratter/plexer/miner and they make great group activities for younger players. It is orders of magnitude more difficult to catch these players and the security has the observed effect. Lag does not prevent the sharks from continuing to hunt these people though.
The hotdrops are fun for both sides. I remember flying my t1 caracal in the Great Wildlands and getting hotdropped by a foundation Aeon. ThatÆs just part of the uncertainty and even when your day comes Eve is better for it. My stance here is biased as Atlas is quite a bit more capital heavy than most alliances. Anything smaller is too hard for us to learn to fly proper. DonÆt even get me started on our tackling skills. Why fit a warp scram when you can count on the other guy to and fit a sensor booster in its place. Same goes for shield tanks. Chances are you wonÆt get shot so sensor booster it up.
All of this would be possible without the lag issues, but I will concede that it may not have occurred as rapidly. Also, not all of the fleet fights are lagging. This past weekend C-J6 behaved incredibly well with less than 400 in local over 2 separate engagements. Typical lag was experienced, but completely playable. Anecdotes like this do not help the push for CCPÆs change in direction.
I hunt for 1v1 pvp and faction spawns in lowsec, faction/officers in 0.0, supply lowsec and 0.0 market hubs with constructed and purchased items, and find time for the occasional mission. All of these activities accent my desire to play a game where the memories of the game are better than the game itself. Without fleet fights of purpose, and friends to fly alongside it is all for nothing .
-Cire XII
Now see what you did? We might turn this thread around yet.
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Kitimortoa
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:08:00 -
[1693]
/yawn
tl;dr
What's this here thread about?
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ATheGreat
Independent Coalition OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:08:00 -
[1694]
POsting as main, as this is a serious issue...
account cancelled until further notice..
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Zhana Agonskaya
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:09:00 -
[1695]
Originally by: ATheGreat POsting as main, as this is a serious issue...
account cancelled until further notice..
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Sister Amalia
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:10:00 -
[1696]
Originally by: ATheGreat Posting as main, as this is a serious issue...
account cancelled until further notice..
PS fixed post/quote
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Signe Tesk
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:15:00 -
[1697]
Originally by: Albetta Lol @ CCP. Tell me to vote when lag has been fixed, ok?
Oh, but they did fix it. They even made it better in the last 8 months so. But to be fair, only any other game pulls off lag better than EVE does. Lag in EVE is only really noticeable for a lucky few hundred, out of what? quite a few thousands? I demand more and better lag.
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Ts'ao Ts'ao
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:16:00 -
[1698]
Deeply disapointed in CCP lately..
Currently seem to have a thing about any publicity is good publicity, this thread is linked on other forums, so publicity there...
Also anyone else notice when CCP posted a report on Facebook regaring a fleet fight that lagged out? trying to spin it as RP, as a spacial anomaly, more publicity..
This is the whole thing about bad publicity being good publicity only works to a point, and if over used, will backfire..
Are CCP so blind to the problems and the player 'rage' that they honestly think players will vote for them? If so these are indeed dark days for eve online..
Consider this another account which as been cancelled, and now just waiting out the bought time..
The clock is ticking CCP, whatcha gonna do when the players run wild on you?!
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:21:00 -
[1699]
going to let time run out on this account, comon ccp!
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altinateee
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:26:00 -
[1700]
have already cancelled 3 account subscriptions. have 1 remaining. CCP aint worth ****, but just taking a gamble that they will wake up one day and I would want a main.
Im sure most people will scale back their accounts but will keep their main running, liquidating all other chars. I noticed when I liquidated mine that it was pretty hard to find buyers. A sure sign that less total characters will be playing in the coming months.
Most wont cancel all their accounts. Still represents significantly lost revenue for CCP. But really, the company aint worth ****.
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:55:00 -
[1701]
omg thread is drifting away!
bump.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:30:00 -
[1702]
Originally by: Zeba Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag.
My brain hurt merely reading that. You're a CCP employee, surely?
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:33:00 -
[1703]
CCP Please say something (other than "we're aware of the thread")
Hopefully this thread shows two things:
- CCP to Player communication is lacking (57 page threadnaught with what 2 Dev replies?)
- This lag problem isn't just the odd spike that causes minor annoyance, its a game breaking problem that desperately needs fixing
We all know you want to push the game's boundaries and that's what we all love about EVE and that's what we love about CCP. The problem is the CCP army is advancing so fast the supply lines cant keep up, you need to stop and consolidate what you have. Were not saying stop developing, just slow down for 12/18 months were not going to leave just because a couple of patches don't have any major content and you will probably get more long term subscribers from fixing than you will from a couple of new fancy features.
Please, we love EVE and we want to return it to what it once was - a fantastic game that create and cope with pretty much anything.
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Joretto Hawisaki
United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:40:00 -
[1704]
Even if 1,000 accounts get un-subbed, it's only $15,000 loss for CCP a month. Like they care.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:42:00 -
[1705]
I voted for eve me, i love it and i dont get any lag.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:44:00 -
[1706]
Originally by: Linn Zypher Stackless IO gave us some good fights 8 months ago, according to the devs.
Then they hired some monkeys who don't know **** about networking/load/shards/whatever and they ****ed up our game.
Let's see what any idiot knows about the changes which were introduced when Dominion killed EVE:
- Fleet finder (with loot tracking) - Map updates - SOV changes
So, my dear bug-hunting devs: disable that crap and see what happens.
- spacebook. If you ask me, since they had to couple the Eve database to the evegate backend, not even written using the same technology, is the thing that has slowed the game down so much. On top of that, for anyone who has been playing for a long time and has hundreds or thousands of contacts and thousands of mails, it takes minutes to load.
The sad irony is that spacebook is useless for many if not most, as it doesn't offer anything not found in game and doesn't offer forum or blog like features, which most corps and alliances have anyway. On top of that the usability is simply useless.
Take that out of the game and see if there isn't an improvement.
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JASON W0RTHING
The Devolved HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:47:00 -
[1707]
Edited by: JASON W0RTHING on 03/08/2010 23:50:34 9/10
Originally by: CCP Shadow What is thy bidd -- Wait. This thread, I have an irresistible urge to lock it for "being related to neither crime nor punishment."
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:56:00 -
[1708]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine are you crazy lol... 99% of most alliances are not in high sec... you must be a complete idiot to make that statement. lol
100% of territory holding alliances are in nullsec. But the vast majority of their thousands of members are all in low sec or high sec enjoying the game. ...
Can you prove this, with numbers? Didn't think so. Also, it doesn't sound like you've ever been there yourself, you know, to actually see if there is anyone there.
I cringe when I see people like you who are so scared to lose their precious internet spaceships.
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Carney Boy
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Posted - 2010.08.04 00:31:00 -
[1709]
Edited by: Carney Boy on 04/08/2010 00:31:15 CCP your pathetic posts in this thread have just made you look like a complete bunch of bankers! I hear Iceland is full of them...
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Xiang Jiao
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Posted - 2010.08.04 00:37:00 -
[1710]
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap For the millionth time today, got out of a match on the countdown, most my arty shells dont even hit the ground, the tanks still appear as if they were phasing in-out of sight...
-- I cant login for hours it says the server is busy
-- Lag is terrible whenever I see more than 10 people on screen; after that game usually crashes
-- Can't seem to connect to the servers and can't get the game to start
-- Sometimes it loads fine and other times it will go to the battle loading screen, the progress bar will go all the way up and then I hear the timer (and sometimes hear tanks moving/firing) I can see my view finder moving on the minimap when I move my mouse but I am unable to physically move the tank
-- I get the connection lost message before match start, have to log in again. Now my tank is on battle, I get 0 exp & cash, and have to pay repairs grrr
-- seems to lag out my system fully to the state that my system doesnt respond
-- WoT beta crashes when trying to connect
-- the game freezes over and over again... cannot play... Some times I can Alt-Tab but the rest of the times I have to Hard Reboot. I can still talk to my brother on vent but the image on the screen is frozen... Can someone tell me whats going on??
-- Been gettin dropped lately too. Lots of lag.
-- Had trouble logging in myself this morning = just got the "disconnected from server" message. Now I'm getting "a player with the same name is already in the game". Wtf?!?
I thought World of Tanks was supposed to be a tank MMORPG. What are you doing loading matches like a console FPS? Shouldn't it be one seamless world, like Eve? Oh, wait, I see what you did there...
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 01:46:00 -
[1711]
Just started trying out World of Tanks; it's p neat.
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:05:00 -
[1712]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag.
My brain hurt merely reading that. You're a CCP employee, surely?
My bet would be rather a Jita station trader, looking at the vast and consummate knowledge of the game...
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:22:00 -
[1713]
I will seriously Jade Constantine someone at CCP, twice, for an official response.
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CCP Zinfandel
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:01:00 -
[1714]
I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:04:00 -
[1715]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
+1 Jade Constantine for you sir, whenever you'd like.
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UNDERBROW
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:07:00 -
[1716]
But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
3 useless posts in 58 pages.
You're right, you're mocking us.
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Typhena
Eikpyrnir
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:12:00 -
[1717]
Edited by: Typhena on 04/08/2010 03:14:17
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Can't believe after 58 pages someone come here to tell exactly what we are reading for over a year "yes .. we are reading .. yes we are doing this .. this .. bla bla"
Less bla bla more action .. serious.
Bah --- Sig Under Construction |
Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:17:00 -
[1718]
Well at least one of you have replied about 40-odd pages since the last CCP employee did, and that is something at least.
The main problem is that we dont believe you are doing everything you can to fix bugs, improve lag and most of all listening to us.
Many have been reporting bugs for months and had no real response, or feel fobbed off and give up reporting. We (I) would like to know what you are going to do/ are doing now to address these problems, the database is unstable at least, we have been given the impression that it will be 18 months till 'proper' time and resources will be allocated, and since the release of the CSM minutes we also believe that you really dont care what we want, as the CSM is supposed to represent the playerbase and our interests and you just ignore them therefore you ignore us.
Eve has been a really good game, its sadly going downhill now, and after being a paying member for 3 years I am letting my accounts lapse for the forseeable future.
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Viper ShizzIe
Habitual Euthanasia Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:20:00 -
[1719]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability
Bull****.
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Sola Sola
GK inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:25:00 -
[1720]
Wtb CCP Soundwave post itt. He is the only one we trust.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:25:00 -
[1721]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Since the internet came about, the concept and psychology of communication took a new turn. Often silence via forum communication is interpreted as indifference and that may be the problem here (aside from game issues).
You have a dedicated following of players and we feel we deserve something in return for our dedication. Namely, acknowledgment that you are aware of our feelings, wishes, frustrations and support. It's kind'a like a marriage.
Zin, your post/reply was very welcomed by the more stable and mature among us. I'm certain there are tensions behind the scenes as to what to focus on next. We know that. But ultimately the customer pays your salary so we deserve some acknowledgment in return. Keep talking to us...that is the key. Even if you cant address all our concerns come next expansion, just keep talking to us and let us know that you are aware of our frustrations.
This post asking for us to vote for EVE was like a slap in the face and showed us that you (CCP) are really out of touch with your customers. We found it both humorous and insulting. So some 50+ pages of replies later in this thread, we revolted.
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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Undertow Latheus on 04/08/2010 03:33:56
Originally by: Sola Sola Wtb CCP Soundwave post itt. He is the only one we trust.
The problem is the devs aren't in charge. I'm sure many devs share the sentiments of the community, because I'd imagine most devs care about the game instead of obsessing about CCP making more profit. Unfortunately, the ones at the top who don't play and don't care call the shots.
So even though some cool devs like soundwave, claw, and eris (discordia)may be on our side, they most likely don't have the power to change anything.
Edit: Oh, and, this.
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability
Bull****.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:38:00 -
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I believe the devs are just as frustrated with management as the players are.
Hearing them say "we love the game" doesn't count for much when we know their boss doesn't even listen to them.
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mishkof
Caldari Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.04 03:39:00 -
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Dont get me wrong, I like your game but you do not deserve my vote for that award.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tarasina on 04/08/2010 04:24:35 Edited by: Tarasina on 04/08/2010 04:20:11
Originally by: Signe Tesk
Originally by: Albetta Lol @ CCP. Tell me to vote when lag has been fixed, ok?
Oh, but they did fix it. They even made it better in the last 8 months so. But to be fair, only any other game pulls off lag better than EVE does. Lag in EVE is only really noticeable for a lucky few hundred, out of what? quite a few thousands? I demand more and better lag.
Hardly true. Eve has more lag right out of the box than any other game. 2 secs b4 modules activate, in hisec, ALWAYS! In any other game I have played, it is 0.5 secs at most. Don't tell me I have 2000ms ping to London, I'm not byuing it. In CS:Source I have 30ms. And for the record, I am comparing with all MMOs I've played and that is quite a few during the last 10 years. Yesterday lag was even worse.
Only WoW, at its laggiest, comes close to Eve. Close...but those issues were fixed years ago.
Servers don't care if it's one world, 200 worlds or instances. That's all just concepts for us to deal with.
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cBOLTSON
Reaction Theory Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: cBOLTSON on 04/08/2010 04:24:59 Edited by: cBOLTSON on 04/08/2010 04:23:12
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Ok, respect for actually having the balls to come here and say something.
However how you can expect people to believe you (As a company not an individual) "are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes" is questionable considering lots of bugs that have been around for a long time have not even been spoke about, let alone fixed.
Granted I WILL give you that you are working on performance fixes. The only thing I felt was good about tyrannis was the NOTICEABLE performance increase***. So GOOD JOB ON THAT!
I know a lot of people on the forums have been nerd raging, myself included . However please see this as a sign of concern from your customers. We dont WANT to have bad things to say about EVE and CCP but the fact remains you have been letting yourself slip!
I think right about now communicating your ideas / what your doing to help fix problems, general opinions and feelings of the CCP devs will go a long way to helping.
Thankyou for your time.
*** = FPS related performance and the like not fleet lag and things of that nature.
Edit - 1. Spelling 2. Clarification
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Only delivery on promises will actually work. Most of the people raging the most have heard it all before.
I'm sure you are working on lag, but it's all the other things... years old bugs and features that always got ignored, balance tweaks that are both recent (certain faction ships come to mind) and ancient (rockets). This isn't new stuff man.
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enterprisePSI
Gallente Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:30:00 -
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On the other hand, of the ~200k subscribers, not even 500 will log on SISI. Think about it.
Yes i am also under the "what the hell i pay them to play the game not fix it" banner but think about this:
What if 3000 of us, log on sisi for the next , dunno 3, 4 mass tests? I am not that confident that the issue will be fixed, but at least i will have another argument to throw at them. Tears, or the titan dies!
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: enterprisePSI On the other hand, of the ~200k subscribers, not even 500 will log on SISI. Think about it.
Yes i am also under the "what the hell i pay them to play the game not fix it" banner but think about this:
What if 3000 of us, log on sisi for the next , dunno 3, 4 mass tests? I am not that confident that the issue will be fixed, but at least i will have another argument to throw at them.
I might log on to SiSi and mass test if SiSi hadn't been crashing to desktop at the splash screen for over a month now, the bug report on it not been read yet and me fully expecting this bug to get pushed to TQ eventually like pretty much every other bug I ever reported on SiSi, thus forcing me out of the game anyway. Also SiSi cannot handle 3000 players, last Armageddon day it was dying with not even 1000 players able to log in. --
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:52:00 -
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Hello Zinfandell,
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Thank you for your post. It appears many people here have not read that most of your company is on vacation. I (and I think many others) appreciate your post here. Thank you for reading, even if the comments are often just attacks of little value.
best of luck with facing the mob, Apollo
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mandaro
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
As all others who have already responded to you, I applaud your balls (whatever indestructable material they may be of) and the fact that you are in fact sticking your neck out in what has become quite the ****storm.
While I could just put on the cap of "DERP I PAY TO PLAY NOT TEST" (which, to be quite frank is an understandable and fair response to the current messy situation), I won't. I'll be there if I can be on thursday night.
It is good to see someone at CCP responding to this thread, even if you can't promise us ****. All I cared about was a response, be it "**** OFF" or "THIS IS OUR GAME **** YOU", as long as it was not some ****canned bull**** like I get 95% of the time when I, for example, petition.
If this is read by anyone with actual pull; CCP: You had a great game, you made a mess. There are some of us still here and willing enough to care and attempt to defend you. Listen to the the loyal fans, help us help you. Make customer support at least reach the standard it did during Apocrypha. Hire some new GMs and throw some others out if you have to. [Disclaimer: I've not lost anything or been butthurt etc etc etc, I just have an opinion on current support roboticness]
We're here for you, CCP. Don't **** on us anymore, and we won't **** at you.
Again, disclaimer: I'm not a fanboy of this game, I've been here a long time and experienced many ups and downs - seen many things I do not want to talk about. I just want to be able to pew pew again without having to worry about stuff breaking and no logs recording it.
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Mr Newcorpington
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Posted - 2010.08.04 05:11:00 -
[1732]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more. [/quote
The forums don't want non-committal posts. we want blog posts with numbers telling us what's being worked on and by who. Last time you did this the numbers where underwhelming. Fix it and show me.
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2010.08.04 05:17:00 -
[1733]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
This story is getting somewhat stale after 6 months of mass tests which were all announced to contain fixes and improvements. None of which made any difference in the experience of the players involved in real combat involving more then two dozen people in gang.
A cynical person may conclude the mass testing is help purely as a PR smokescreen to both create the impresson of things being worked on (which they are not) and as an excuse to blame a lack of progress to not enough people joining the tests.
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BaronCannibal
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Posted - 2010.08.04 05:38:00 -
[1734]
Originally by: Darth Vapour
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
This story is getting somewhat stale after 6 months of mass tests which were all announced to contain fixes and improvements. None of which made any difference in the experience of the players involved in real combat involving more then two dozen people in gang.
A cynical person may conclude the mass testing is help purely as a PR smokescreen to both create the impresson of things being worked on (which they are not) and as an excuse to blame a lack of progress to not enough people joining the tests.
This sums it all
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cheet sheet
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Posted - 2010.08.04 05:42:00 -
[1735]
Originally by: Darth Vapour
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
This story is getting somewhat stale after 6 months of mass tests which were all announced to contain fixes and improvements. None of which made any difference in the experience of the players involved in real combat involving more then two dozen people in gang.
A cynical person may conclude the mass testing is help purely as a PR smokescreen to both create the impresson of things being worked on (which they are not) and as an excuse to blame a lack of progress to not enough people joining the tests.
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not |
Hardrock Miner
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:01:00 -
[1736]
They have all they need rite here live. You even have to tell them what system it is going to happen in (begging for node reinforcement) testing on the test server is complete crap.
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:22:00 -
[1737]
Hey guys remember when CVA lost all those fleet battles because their idiot FCs not only underestimated AAA, but had the audacity to assume they could jump people into systems and actually fight?
Everybody who isn't an idiot understands that only so many people will ever fit into a system, and that its the nature of players to cram it to that maximum. The problem is that that maximum is supposed to increase in number, not failcrash with a new expansion. A significant part of the EVE's one shard experience is being able to gather in one place and make interesting things happen. As soon as you saw your code would lead to additional lag you should have treated it like it was nuclear waste covered in dog turds until you removed the problem.
Enjoy the core EVE concept. Too bad the execution is like a child who has been dropped on its head too many times. Too bad nobody else has a competing game on the market for this niche.
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Omal Oma
Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:35:00 -
[1738]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Hey boss...
How difficult would it be to reward the people who are mass testing with some Skill Points for them taking time out of their in-game responsibilities to help out?
I would love to tell my alliance fleet members to come as well, but they'd rather rat/mine/be in a fleet that helps the advancement of our alliance or their wallet. I understand that Mass Testing will assist in the long term development of EVE Online, but it's hard to convince a lot of the members of my alliance this.
I personally would like to show, but I do a lot for my alliance in terms of maintaining POS's, running 0.0 fleets and general Alliance duties that taking a few hours out of my time in EVE to come test with CCP may be difficult.
Throw me a bone here... Give us some incentive :) ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me. |
HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:42:00 -
[1739]
Originally by: Darth Vapour Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 05:37:59
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
+1 rep
This story is getting somewhat stale after 6 months of mass tests which were all announced to contain fixes and improvements. None of which made any difference in the experience of the players involved in real combat involving more then two dozen people in gang.
A cynical person may conclude the mass testing is held purely as a PR smokescreen to both create the impresson of things being worked on (which they are not) and serve as an excuse to blame a lack of progress to not enough people joining the tests.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 06:44:00 -
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lol. Poor zinfandel. Don't you know that devs posting in a rant thread only get the arse end of the players 'opinions'?
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba They say that the light of truth burns like a fire in the mind of the troll. So yeah the fire of logic vs the flames of the trolls is a valid comparison.
But I...you...but...your a...wait...WHAT?
Sorry to confuse you but the truth often does that to people. Try to fully educate yourself to avoid this undesirable effect in the future.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba If you step out of Angry Fleet Fight Guy mode and take a few steps back you will see that after Dominion not being able to have huge fleet fights was the best thing that could have happened to the nullsec game.
Sorry again to upset your fragile mental balance but yes, no fleet fights has made sure that the dominion sov changes took hold and prospered. So yet again sorry if you couldn't hotdrop your titans and supercaps on a hauler trying to establish sov in a backwater system noone in their right mind would even try to occupy.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Now instead of the instant chaos and the resultant market uncertainty of constant warefare over moons and pos production facilities we have had a nice long time of peace so nullsec is the most poplated and active it has ever been in its entire history.]
Nice trolling brah.
But its the truth. Nullsec is more populated now than it has ever been with scores of players running exploration sites and other nullsec goodies like anomolies and such. This is a far cry from the virtual emptyness of nullsec before the sov changes with the afk empire mechanic that only profited the top alliance members with moon goo profits and other nullsec only shineys like supercap production.
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba Null sec is underpopulated because even with the upgrades there is no way in hell you can support thousands of players off the isk content or have them all logged on due to the lack of servers which is a completely different issue than fleet lag.
My brain hurt merely reading that. You're a CCP employee, surely?
Nope. Not a ccp employee. Sorry. As far as your opinion goes, welp, there really is only so many players a fully upgraded system will support and it falls faaaaaar short of the thousands of members most large alliances boast. Once you get to a few dozen or so milking the anomolies then high sec level 4 missions start making you more isk per hour. Don't belive me? Then do the math.
Originally by: Aphser My bet would be rather a Jita station trader, looking at the vast and consummate knowledge of the game...
Jita trading is simply a small part of my overall eve experience. I'm sorry that you are rather limited in your scope and only can manage to tackle one small infintesimal part of the game at a time and collate the information that it gives you.
My sympathies..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:06:00 -
[1741]
Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 07:06:17
Originally by: cheet sheet
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not
I've been in most mass tests and will be in the next one. Provided CCP gets SiSi patched in the next 36 hours so your overview shows what is on grid with you now and not what was on grid 3 jumps ago.
If this is done the test will go pretty much as the last few did: -200 to 300 people will turn up and wait 90 minutes getting fleets set up -10 minutes of jumping and traffic control -10 minutes of fighting with acceptable lag as it is a dedicated node in an empty galaxy -CCP spawns 100 Sleepers and everything lags out -CCP Tanis or Habbakuk posts FPS numbers and how useful data was gathered and promising changes were tested.
Repeat every few weeks for the next 17 months.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:10:00 -
[1742]
Originally by: Darth Vapour Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 07:06:17
Originally by: cheet sheet
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not
I've been in most mass tests and will be in the next one. Provided CCP gets SiSi patched in the next 36 hours so your overview shows what is on grid with you now and not what was on grid 3 jumps ago.
If this is done the test will go pretty much as the last few did: -200 to 300 people will turn up and wait 90 minutes getting fleets set up -10 minutes of jumping and traffic control -10 minutes of fighting with acceptable lag as it is a dedicated node in an empty galaxy -CCP spawns 100 Sleepers and everything lags out -CCP Tanis or Habbakuk posts FPS numbers and how useful data was gathered and promising changes were tested.
Repeat every few weeks for the next 17 months.
In the meantime nullsec is getting even moar populated and generally improved due to the lack of serious fleet pew pew action.
Working as intended.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:12:00 -
[1743]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Hi, I know you don't want to hear that I'm reading your post, but here goes in a nutshell:
1) the last devblog says your lying to us - lag is most certainly not your #1 priority, dust/incarna are, which, from our perspective, sucks.
2) you communicate just fine, till you find out we know you've done something ******ed, then you pass it off to your PR department which totally screws up the job because they are exactly that, a PR department.
Again, communication just fine : you told us you have significantly more devs working on ******ed things like dresses and bars in stations, and a FPS that many of us won't be able to play because your passing it off to consoles that will be outdated and replaced in 2 more years. We heard you, and we think it sucks.
Im a UStz player, so my list of reasons that I can't make your tests are as follows:
1) You gave IHUBs too many hitpoints, it takes hours to shoot it
2) You gave stations too many hitpoints, it takes hours to shoot it
3) You actually got the SBU's about right, but they still take a good while to shoot
4) You moved a lot of POS mods outside of the shields to give us small gang warfare targets, then, you gave them millions of hit points so small gangs really have no hope of taking them down, they take hours to shoot.
5) You made station services targetable, again for small gang warfare, then gave them millions of hit points, they take hours to shoot.
So, when you add up all those hours, pretty much from down time to down time is spent shooting inanimate objects in 0.0 right now, because we can only use about 50 people to do it, since anymore cripples the server.
Unfortunately, you won't be getting to any possible review of the horrid sov mechanics that you've saddled us with, so unfortunately, most of the big 0.0 alliances are in someway going to be repping, or shooting, the millions and millions of hit points that some douche bag thought was a good idea, for the foreseeable future, so your never going to get a decent turn out.
Test on the live server, it can't get anyworse than it already is.
TEST ON THE LIVE SERVER
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 04/08/2010 07:13:16
Originally by: Zeba In the meantime nullsec is getting even moar populated and generally improved due to the lack of serious fleet pew pew action.
Working as intended.
Your trolling is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:17:00 -
[1745]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Darth Vapour Edited by: Darth Vapour on 04/08/2010 07:06:17
Originally by: cheet sheet
Why dont you go and test on the 5th and see what they do try and help out and then you can see for your self if its a smokescreen or not
I've been in most mass tests and will be in the next one. Provided CCP gets SiSi patched in the next 36 hours so your overview shows what is on grid with you now and not what was on grid 3 jumps ago.
If this is done the test will go pretty much as the last few did: -200 to 300 people will turn up and wait 90 minutes getting fleets set up -10 minutes of jumping and traffic control -10 minutes of fighting with acceptable lag as it is a dedicated node in an empty galaxy -CCP spawns 100 Sleepers and everything lags out -CCP Tanis or Habbakuk posts FPS numbers and how useful data was gathered and promising changes were tested.
Repeat every few weeks for the next 17 months.
In the meantime nullsec is getting even moar populated and generally improved due to the lack of serious fleet pew pew action.
Working as intended.
Your trolling is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Matt Kaiser
Heralds of Vengeance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:18:00 -
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This thread still exist? CCP must leave this here as a nice **** you to the players Android |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:22:00 -
[1747]
Originally by: Matt Kaiser This thread still exist? CCP must leave this here as a nice **** you to the players
Its one of those lulz moments for anyone with half a brain. Good thread tbh as it points out all the posers alts.
Time to roll new ones really as they have already used up any possible forums credulity..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:39:00 -
[1748]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
I'll help you do your job, which you get paid for, for free when you come to my office and help me do my job for free.
Not sound fair?
Get a better testing department or offer some kind of incentive beyond "we're fixing things".
It's like if my mechanic said "hey, I'll fix your car but could you come in on saturday and give me a hand" um... no... --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:40:00 -
[1749]
Originally by: Zeba Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
What are you talking about? This is my main, I'm a bear. See my alliance ticker?
You're shockingly stupid.
Originally by: Zeba C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
You're an awful, awful troll.
0/10
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:46:00 -
[1750]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes.
Regarding communication, you may also consider to start practicing community polls as was suggested here. Each time some important question pops up, or when you just want to know how your customers feel about this and that, launch a poll within the client. (and make results public)
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:48:00 -
[1751]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
What are you talking about? This is my main, I'm a bear. See my alliance ticker?
You're shockingly stupid.
Originally by: Zeba C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
You're an awful, awful troll.
0/10
Awww.
So since you have no actual argument you resort to ad hominem attacks and tired trollish accusations?
If this keeps up then this thread is mine by default.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 07:48:00 -
[1752]
Do Not Feed The Troll. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyways, CCP Zinf, much if not most of the problems that we're seeing come from the hamfisted manner in which communication has been handled coupled with the contrast between how things are, and how they were. When I was interviewed for E-ON two issues ago (three?), I pointed out that the changes in Apocrypha that made massive fleet fights a reality were the single most important set of upgrades that EVE had ever seen, and something that allowed it to truly fulfill the promise inherent in the concept of a space combat game.
But then Dominion broke that, and introduced a kluged together, half-finished sov system. And instead of fixing it, CCP just kept rolling on, adding more half-finished content on top of the old (which is a problem that's been going on for a while). So while it's nice to talk about how CCP really wants to fix bugs and such, talk is cheap. Which isn't to say that you're not being truthful, just that the word themselves don't amount to much. Without actions to back them up.
CCP is working on fixing everything they broke with Dominion? Okay... like what? How long will we most likely have to wait until the same battles that were possible in Apocrypha are possible now? CCP is working on performance upgrades? Okay, what are the chances that CCP will fix some of the 'low hanging fruit', the easy problems with the UI that negatively impact how the average EVE player experiences the game? ("modify" and "cancel" trade options right next to each other, and no "are you sure" option for cancel? Seriously?) How about planets/stargates/stations flashing red on people's overviews for no reason? Or drone AI that is still broken, where "focus fire" is a serving suggestion and not a rule and "go and attack that target" is something that you drones evidently can change their mind about? If these sorts of problems are being fixed, when can we expect them to be fixed, if they're not, why not?
You're looking for ways to communicate more. Okay, but why is it such a challenge? What would be so hard with, say, tasking the lead dev on the (unfortunately, hypothetical) Progressively Fixing The UI team with creating continually updated progress blogs?
-"Today we identified these five areas that we will begin work on, they are blah, blah blah, blah blah blah, and... we are working on them because we believe they will confer the following benefits... we believe that we will have made significant progress by blah blah. We will keep you updated." -"A week has passed, and we have solved the problems with "blah and blah blah, but blah blah blah may take a little more time as there are some weird interactions in the code that we have to chase down. In the meanwhile, we have also added yadda, yadda yadda, and yadda yadda yadda to the queue and we will begin work on those once blah blah blah is finished."
Most of the rage and bad press you're getting aren't just because of the mass of unfinished content, kluged systems that have been abandoned, lag, etc... but that when faced with them CCP's reaction was to say that new content is preferable to having working/polished old content, that fixing the game is their number one priority even though only something like 22 devs are actually working on that, etc...
EVE is an awesome game and a solid intellectual property. The fans, for the most part, have gone well past the point of addiction. It's not that there are problems, it's not even that CCP is having trouble fixing them, it's the utter disdain that the folks at the top seem to have for the playerbase. It's one thing to say that resources are tight and some issues may take a while to solve. It's another thing, entirely, to urinate on your customers and try to convince them that it's raining. And that, why, they should be glad for the refreshing rain since boy, it sure was getting hot. ------------------------------------------------
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:00:00 -
[1753]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 04/08/2010 08:02:30
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Your faithful toeing of the political spin line for your alliance masters is a little obvious bro.
Just sayin.
What are you talking about? This is my main, I'm a bear. See my alliance ticker?
You're shockingly stupid.
Originally by: Zeba C'mon. Are there any real contenders for teh ownership of this thread? I'm starting to get tired of the endless incompetant self denial poasts tbh. Have some pride you gits.
You're an awful, awful troll.
0/10
Awww.
So since you have no actual argument you resort to ad hominem attacks and tired trollish accusations?
If this keeps up then this thread is mine by default.
Please keep attention whoring and scrambling for nibbles mr. troll. I'm sure someone, eventually, will bite.
Rather sad to see you so worked up though over an internet spaceship forum.
Edit - So jita 4-4 "protests" are against the EULA, what about the major powers protesting in another way? I'd support in whatever limited capacity I'd be able to.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:06:00 -
[1754]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Do Not Feed The Troll.
So does that mean we can delete all of the replys to the thread and start again fresh with hopefully no emoragetrolling over a niche gameplay mechanic complaint?(however valid it may be)
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Blatant trolling
Wow.
Way to get worked up over something less than 10% of the active playerbase even knows about. Sorry that fleet fights are borked but really can't you find something else to occupy your mind until ccp gets around to fixing fleet fight lag? I don't know about other players but when one part of the game was not fun I simply switched to another part of the game that was fun.
I guess this is a concept beyond the grasp of your average cannon fodder.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:07:00 -
[1755]
Originally by: Zeba A BLO BLO BLO BLOO
Do go on.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:17:00 -
[1756]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Please keep attention whoring and scrambling for nibbles mr. troll. I'm sure someone, eventually, will bite.
Rather sad to see you so worked up though over an internet spaceship forum.
Hehe.
Looking at the last two pages(the only ones I made a post in if you care to acknowledge annoyingly obvious and inconvienint to your school of thought stuff like that) it looks like we have a full catfish pond literally jumping out of the water for a 'bite' of me. I mean I knew that I had an adverse effect on trolls but this is like I sprayed forum flavored butter on all my posts.
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edit - So jita 4-4 "protests" are against the EULA, what about the major powers protesting in another way? I'd support in whatever limited capacity I'd be able to.
And what exactly is that going to prove or even more importantly accomplish? "Yo CCP!! Even though you obviously know fleet fights lag we thought we would disrupt other players games that have nothing to do with fleet fights just to show you that we care. So now that we have protested and made even moar players(who have nothing to do with fleet fights) game unplayable we feel that you will be able to magically pull the lag fix out of your arse and impliment it. amirite? no really, AMIRITE!!!!!!"
ffs..
I mean reallly..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:18:00 -
[1757]
Originally by: Zeba ]I MAD!
You sure are bro.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:21:00 -
[1758]
Originally by: HarrietMiers useless poasting with no intelligent content whilst conveniently evading the real issues or lack of
I'm sorry.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:24:00 -
[1759]
Originally by: Zeba I'm going to try to **** on this thread as much as possible because my mother didn't love me enough as a child.
Sorry to hear that brosef. You seem awful upset about something, you should probably stop posting for awhile.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:27:00 -
[1760]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba I'm going to try to **** on this thread as much as possible because my mother didn't love me enough as a child.
Sorry to hear that brosef. You seem awful upset about something, you should probably stop posting for awhile.
NO U!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:31:00 -
[1761]
Edited by: Ban Doga on 04/08/2010 08:32:32
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
If you already came to that conclusion why don't you act upon it?!
Time and again some CCP folk will post "we know we should work on improving communication, that's the one thing we can all do to improve the situation" and then nothing happens. Why is it so hard for you guys to translate insight into actions?!
And don't start with those mass tests again. We can only show you the door and have done so many times in those tests, but going through it is entirely your job. If can't or don't want to do that, then no amount of testing will change a thing (see also "Why is it so hard for you guys to translate insight into actions?!")
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:32:00 -
[1762]
Guys Guys, Chill. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:34:00 -
[1763]
Originally by: Blane Xero Guys Guys, Chill.
Bah..
Where where you when we needed you?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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mippie
Amarr Endless Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:47:00 -
[1764]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
I'll help you do your job, which you get paid for, for free when you come to my office and help me do my job for free.
Not sound fair?
Get a better testing department or offer some kind of incentive beyond "we're fixing things".
It's like if my mechanic said "hey, I'll fix your car but could you come in on saturday and give me a hand" um... no...
wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:53:00 -
[1765]
You takin the **** cpp? With this lag yea ok fine you trolled us whatever...
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spytoon
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:54:00 -
[1766]
Just voted for Perfect Dark
I would not give this game the sweat off a dead dogs balls. Im out in a few days time. I might come back in 18 months time but hey who knows
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:57:00 -
[1767]
Originally by: mippie wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
Welcome to the forums!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:59:00 -
[1768]
Originally by: mippie
wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
¼¼ indeed
There have been "mass tests" in the past and they've seemed to yield little to no results.
The test server is just that, a test server, it's not a mirror of the live server hardware\load wise so a mass test will do little more than tell CCP that the test server can't deal with large numbers of players... useful.
If they insist on "mass testing" on the test server then they'll need to insentivise it and for once it's the kind of thing they can easily insentivise.
When they wanted to test capitals they gave people all lvl 5s so everyone and their ****** could join in. That was entirely pointless because most of those who can't fly capitals don't know how to fly capitals, it's like getting me to test a jet fighter.
Now they just want pure numbers and they won't offer a bean? Um... stick 500mil as an incentive and see how many people rush to help.
I'll give them a hint though, loot logging. That's where my money is, it's not something we need, not something anyone I know wanted and yet we got it. Even with it turned off I've got a feeling in my water that it has an effect.
There... I helped --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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mippie
Amarr Endless Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:59:00 -
[1769]
thanks, dont normally post but the bullheadedness of this thread has irritated me, to use the garage analogy, its like taking your car to the mechanic knowing that the prop shaft is broken and when he asks you the issue saying you dont know, its pointless,wastes time and extends the grief for both parties.
thats all CCP wants a couple o'hundred players to create the lag that cant be generated by spawning NPC's....
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Dan Somtaaw
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:00:00 -
[1770]
Sub's almost up too... I might hang on for another month but... I dont know. A bit out of touch eh guys?
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:03:00 -
[1771]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Thanks for your reply, Zinfandel. It was very nice to have a reply from CCP for once not couched in PR speak. To be very honest, it's not something you guys do well. Show that you take us seriously and I'm sure you'll get a much better response from us as well (and yes, you're right, some people will troll regardless). In return I'll do my bit and get in on the testing on the next couple of tests on Sisi.
May I, however, suggest that CCP open a direct dialogue with its customers. The CSM process is good in that it gets a focus on pressing player issues, but it's long and cumbersome and leads to precisely this kind of scenario. Respond to us directly on the following issues and open a dialogue with us on them instead of appearing to stubbornly refuse any flexibility on these topics. - Lag: Lag testing since Dominion came out has been going on for 6 months with nothing really being visible to the players. Posting devblogs with graphs are nice, but they provide no explanation for the perceived lack of improvement. - New features vs. Improving old features: Part of the pent up anger towards CCP is because for so long new features have been introduced in an incomplete state that CCP has then ignored, instead focusing on new features. These include 0.0 Sov, FW, PI, Corp management, the UI, ship models (Many saw the well done but useless Primae model as a waste of time) and last but not least this website (why was developer time wasted on the widely ridiculed evegate instead of improving this site?) - Balance: This too is a long list of features that has been ignored for too long (The best known being rockets and hybrid weapons) in the eyes of the players. - Bugs: The list of bugs in the game has grown along with push for new features. There are so many bugs that need looking at that listing them is impossible.
In short, we are extremely sceptical that Incarna will be in any way better in quality than any of the other new features and we question its utility in a time when the game is viewed as "broken" by many of the more experienced players (it's been done before in other games and was unsuccessful there). Similarly, with Dust we question the use of our subscription fees to fund a game that many of us are either uninterested in, or cannot play. We found Zulu's hyping of these things instead of listening to us a slap in the face and an insult to our intelligence, and Nathan's response to the CSM was also viewed as a direct insult to older players.
So, CCP, in summary, open a dialogue with us and discuss these things with us and show us that you're flexible on these issues or, at the very least why you cannot change them. This is NOT a threat, but if you do not do this, you face the very real possibility of your playerbase deserting you in frustration.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:06:00 -
[1772]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: mippie
wait.... so your going to come onto the forums, EMONERDRAGE about the lag that CCP clearly cant figure out..and when they ask for ACTUAL players to create the condition in which the lag happens your going to say "no" and continue to ***** and moan....your a fecking ****** who truely does not help this game...
¼¼ indeed
There have been "mass tests" in the past and they've seemed to yield little to no results.
The test server is just that, a test server, it's not a mirror of the live server hardware\load wise so a mass test will do little more than tell CCP that the test server can't deal with large numbers of players... useful.
If they insist on "mass testing" on the test server then they'll need to insentivise it and for once it's the kind of thing they can easily insentivise.
When they wanted to test capitals they gave people all lvl 5s so everyone and their ****** could join in. That was entirely pointless because most of those who can't fly capitals don't know how to fly capitals, it's like getting me to test a jet fighter.
Now they just want pure numbers and they won't offer a bean? Um... stick 500mil as an incentive and see how many people rush to help.
I'll give them a hint though, loot logging. That's where my money is, it's not something we need, not something anyone I know wanted and yet we got it. Even with it turned off I've got a feeling in my water that it has an effect.
There... I helped
The test server is an exact copy of tq down to the last bit of code.(past the bits they changed to see if it improved or borked anything that is) That it can't support 60k concurrent players has nothing to do with supporting 500 players to test what the hell is causing fleet fight lag. Not logging in to help with lag testing is like *****ing about some politician you think sucks but you never voted for anyone on election day and stayed home to smoke a bowl and complain about why life is so unfair..
Also if you think those things you listed as probably culprits can't really be pinned down if ccp doesn't have enough players to recreate an actual tq style fleet fight.
But hey lets not let something like logic get in teh way of a perfectly good rant after all.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:16:00 -
[1773]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
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TEST ON THE LIVE SERVER
This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:17:00 -
[1774]
Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 04/08/2010 09:17:38
I wonder if Nathan Richardsson prefers to deliver 'polished quality' or 'new features' in bed...
All hail CCP Zinfandel for posting. I still love you all, even you, Nathan.
I've no hope that CCP leadership will change its stance towards it's loyal (and rabid) playerbase, no matter how misguided it is. I think the future for EvE is bleak. People play this game for the internet spaceships. If they want to play with avatars, there are plenty of better games to play and Incarna won't change that. I'm gonna stop talking about this as this thread should have made it epically clear what we think of the direction CCP leadership has decided to go. I only really posted as I dislike uneven pages so decided to help push it to 60 pages. All neat and tidy.
Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:24:00 -
[1775]
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
Originally by: Bomberlocks P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
Then there would be no topics or replys for the majority of the forums.
Trollz = Forumz content tbh.
You guys supply the entertainment for the fleet fight guys looking at a black loading screen as they wait to appear in the clone station.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:42:00 -
[1776]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
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And you know this how? The development patches they introduce, are they same as TQ? No. Should they reinforce the node the test is on? Probably not, since lag also occurs in almost empty systems. Are unknown variables, such as DB performance due to the total number of players in the game, the same? No.
Honestly, mate. Please stop trolling.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:00:00 -
[1777]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability
Bull****.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:02:00 -
[1778]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
....
And you know this how? The development patches they introduce, are they same as TQ? No. Should they reinforce the node the test is on? Probably not, since lag also occurs in almost empty systems. Are unknown variables, such as DB performance due to the total number of players in the game, the same? No.
Honestly, mate. Please stop trolling.
But can you be a troll when you are even more clueless than a dead ****roach?
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WaiKin Beldar
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: WaiKin Beldar on 04/08/2010 10:05:59
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, ...
First of all, thanks for giving some kind of explanation and showing up, although, regrettably we are getting too used to that sort of treatment without results.
Please, let me clarify something. The fact that you do give some explanation now and then does not correlate with the adequate level of expectations you create because of those explanations. In a nutshell, you say, communicate or intend to do something, and even publish it, but the results are nuts. Because those results ( and we are not talking here about a matter of days, or weeks, or even months ) are either not reached or just missed,the feeling we, the playerbase, are getting, is one of two possibilities: you are plainly lying or it is a rampant example of sheer incompetence.
I'm not talking about the efforts of your Public Affairs department to give any kind of information once you are aware something is screwed up, or the real effort, some of you guys, are doing behind the curtains to fix something up. I'm talking about the manner in which the company, CCP, has decided to run the business.
The official language used by your company does not correlate with the promises, expectations or features as they were told. We are able enough to understand all kind of problems, inconsistencies, bugs, fixes, patches...even old fashioned software/hardware that will complicate things up to unknown levels. Stop doing that and instead give us feedback about the real advances you are doing on any field. As an example, 5 months later of your infamous "We are aware of the problem..." some of the biggest fleet battles are taking place with awesome amounts of lag. You are losing credibility fast, very fast.
What we do not accept any longer is the consistent repetition of the same mistakes once and again taking us for monkeys who will accept your word for granted being noticed that we've been fooled so many times by grandiloquent blogs that solved nothing at the end.
Be honest and show us results. Good intentions are good but mean nothing without good results. Put aside your pompous language of cheap-sellers for adding new content when we are utterly uncomfortable with some Day-1 core features they proved to be faulty and you still target them on your priority list as secondary business objectives.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:10:00 -
[1780]
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
How exactly are you going to test new client/server code on TQ without breaking everything?
If you mean analyzing fleet fights on TQ I'm pretty sure that is already happening to a limited degree as devs have been spotted during fleet fights, however they appear to be unable to run the full debug code used on SiSi as it is a bit of a performance hog.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:27:00 -
[1781]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
Originally by: Bomberlocks P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
Then there would be no topics or replys for the majority of the forums.
Trollz = Forumz content tbh.
You guys supply the entertainment for the fleet fight guys looking at a black loading screen as they wait to appear in the clone station.
So everone turns up on the test server and all flood into the same system\same grid. How does that mirror the live server where you'd have countless people on their way to fleet, moving around near by systems, all the constelational and regional data that's changing constantly?
Plus all the respective corp\alliance\other chatter going on, contracts being updated, items being sold etc etc etc.
If you want a real test, the only way would be for CCP to have "research ships" that they could have tag along on a fleet fight that can experience the lag first hand.
For some things, yes, the test sever is good. For other things, not so much. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:31:00 -
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This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Zurkon
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:49:00 -
[1783]
if u want us to vote bevor 1.december 09 i would have voted for you... but now... i think the most of all 0.0 players are thinking like this way...
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.08.04 10:51:00 -
[1784]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Tell that to Zyrmuguist :D
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Brannor McThife
Caldari Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:06:00 -
[1785]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Oh I'd love to help, like back in the day when we got to try pew-pew Dev's in Jove ships...back when I was in or close to your timezone. Unfortunately, 20H00 is now 06H00 here in my new Oceanic time zone...and I gotta get to work. I'll look forward to reading about how things dramatically improved though.
-G
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:21:00 -
[1786]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Oh come on, What did you expect? For us to bite the bullet and vote for your broken game? The players have spoken CCP and it's time to act. These people pay good money to play this game. With the game in its current state you guys asking us to vote Tyrannis for an award is a big enough troll.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:28:00 -
[1787]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
How exactly are you going to test new client/server code on TQ without breaking everything?
If you mean analyzing fleet fights on TQ I'm pretty sure that is already happening to a limited degree as devs have been spotted during fleet fights, however they appear to be unable to run the full debug code used on SiSi as it is a bit of a performance hog.
I understand your point perfectly, and I agree to a large extent, BUT, I look at the problem like this:
- Lag is experienced in systems with both many and few people. It is made worse by large amounts of players, but it happens in almost empty systems as well. Mass testing is almost certainly looking in the wrong direction. (It could be something as seemingly unrelated like the evegate connection, or the fleetfinder, I don't know). I might be wrong, but I'm pretty certain that there's a bug that is only reproducible on the live system with many thousands of people online. - The lag has been there since dominion again, and CCP have been attempting to find the source of the problem since then, via mass tests on Sisi. They have found almost nothing, or else they would have mentioned it by now, as CCP are if anything not shy of promoting themselves. - Customers are leaving in larger numbers than usual. - Eve has a daily downtime of 1 hour in any case, extending that downtime by one or two hours, but actually allowing people to log in and play (and then rolling back all in game changes after that period, or not, if players are ok with the possibility of a server crash, something of which we've had many, such as after Dominion) with debugging code injected would enable the devs to finally get a real picture of what's going on. - If lag persists for another 6 months without any improvements, there is a real possibility that CCP will lose a good portion of its customers who will then no longer believe anything that CCP says, even if it's true.
The ball is in CCP's court, and I hope for their and our sakes, that they play it well.
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:49:00 -
[1788]
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Tell that to Zyrmuguist :D
oh... burn
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.04 11:55:00 -
[1789]
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Tell that to Zyrmuguist :D
:iceburn:
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Srialia
Misfit Toys
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Posted - 2010.08.04 12:04:00 -
[1790]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
I'm sure the dozen people who are actually allowed to touch the current game are working their rears off. That's not the problem, and I think you know it's not the problem. Not only is your company forsaking their flagship product and its users (again, not just the lag; every half-baked, pathetic joke of a new feature that you keep insisting on introducing every patch and refusing to support or follow through on), but it is constantly lying about it. We have the numbers, and not even a quarter of your resources are being applied to the current game. I assume that less than 100% of that portion is actually working on the lag issue.
It's more than a little disingenuous to say that fixing lag is your #1 priority or that you're "too focused on performance improvements" to post in giant PR disaster threads. So thanks for your reply after nearly 60 pages of customer frustration and anger. Can you maybe try again without insulting our intelligence? We prefer actual information to a regurgitated marketing spin, just FYI.
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 13:02:00 -
[1791]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
Makes me totally looking forward to some improvements "soon (TM)", which by current standards seems in 18 months... probably...
Quote:
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
Hm, why do I feel like I got trolled now?
Quote:
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
Isn't the CSM supposed to improve CCP / player base communications? I think I originally heard something about this. Oh, wait, we're talking about the CSM here...
Quote:
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
Sorry if this reads somewhat rude now, but do you guys live on the test server and ignore Tranquility? That would surely explain some... issues&attitudes, but just as a reminder, players have mostly issues with the REAL server, not SiSi. Simply telling us "We're on it all the time, now get on SiSi to help us out, kkthxbb!" won't do after that revealing "probably 18 months" statement, sorry, sir. At least not for me, everybody to his own take on this, ofc.
Originally by: Grath Telkin [...] So, when you add up all those hours, pretty much from down time to down time is spent shooting inanimate objects in 0.0 right now, because we can only use about 50 people to do it, since anymore cripples the server.
Unfortunately, you won't be getting to any possible review of the horrid sov mechanics that you've saddled us with, so unfortunately, most of the big 0.0 alliances are in someway going to be repping, or shooting, the millions and millions of hit points that some douche bag thought was a good idea, for the foreseeable future, so your never going to get a decent turn out.
Test on the live server, it can't get anyworse than it already is.
TEST ON THE LIVE SERVER
m8, wake up, you live in 0.0, thus are boned/ignored/poked fun at since Dominion at least. We had enough months to let it sink in. Gang of 20 ppl getting traffic-controlled, randomly lag-spiked (not even 50 and in empty systems) and more crap should be a sure sign (BTDT). 0.0 is broken bigtime, just go play some in Faction War. Oh... wait... that is bugged and broken as well. Hm... guess you can always pay your subscription fee in order to get some station trading in empire somewhere done. If you feel adventurous, add a couple hundred clicks for PI as well.
Official word seems to be that improved gameplay isn't an issue at least mid-term. More important to work on "spacebook" and "walking in stations" (Which is way delayed according to original roadmap IIRC, right?) Can hardly remember the last time something useful&unbroken got introduced in that respect anyway. Must have been 18 months back or so, right? I mean, come on, we have been stupid lemmings re-subbing no matter what so far, why not twist the knife in the back a bit more?
And like I wrote further upwards, I have some doubts Devs actually play on Tranquility any more. Unless they are all station tarders or something...
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 13:18:00 -
[1792]
Edited by: Bomberlocks on 04/08/2010 13:19:23
Originally by: Dlardrageth ....
Quote:
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
Hm, why do I feel like I got trolled now?
....
TBQFH, after reading that I also wondered whether the guy was either messing with us or simply mentally challenged. Anyone who would think the bad reports about CCP currently going down in the press would be good publicity would have to have some serious problems with their perception of the real world.
Edit: Snypah
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Giovanni DalleBandeNere
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.04 13:47:00 -
[1793]
I guess most of us r students no more, we either eployees, self-employed, CEOs etc ourselves so consider this:
We r still speaking to the devs, which is cool, given they r the the appendix of the creature called CCP we have "access" to.
The real problem is they don't take the decisions, they are eployees paid to do their jobs, yes i'm sure they are supposed to give feedbacks to the high-ups (that's part of an empoyee job), but is not up to them to take final decisions. At the same time they can't log on the forums and post stuff like "yes i agree the game is taking the wrong direction" or something like that
That might not be true for small (or maybe family driven) companies, but CCP has grown/is grownin beyond that point, u can consider this however you like, for me is something bad, but that's just my personal opinion.
So gettin "mad" at the Devs is not helping (i still actually belive the majority of them are "on our side"), so that means this thread is pointless? not at all, even if today is no more the customer to "shape" the market (if it ever was tbh), they (the big-jeads/high-ups) make their nice big stash of cash thanks to us (customers+employees), so being vocal is NEVER wrong
my 2 cents of course
cya
p.s. i'm not english so the above might be filled with mistakes, pls excuse me for that ^_^
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 13:52:00 -
[1794]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks This is something you really need to do, CCP. The test server is in no way an adequate analog of the live server.
Its exactly the same as the live server bit for bit. Especially if they reinforce the node the test is on. Then its literally the exact same enviroment as tq.
Originally by: Bomberlocks P.S. It's a real pity that the forums don't have a black function so we can block the obsessive trolls.
Then there would be no topics or replys for the majority of the forums.
Trollz = Forumz content tbh.
You guys supply the entertainment for the fleet fight guys looking at a black loading screen as they wait to appear in the clone station.
So everone turns up on the test server and all flood into the same system\same grid. How does that mirror the live server where you'd have countless people on their way to fleet, moving around near by systems, all the constelational and regional data that's changing constantly?
Plus all the respective corp\alliance\other chatter going on, contracts being updated, items being sold etc etc etc.
If you want a real test, the only way would be for CCP to have "research ships" that they could have tag along on a fleet fight that can experience the lag first hand.
For some things, yes, the test sever is good. For other things, not so much.
And what makes you think ccp hasn't already taken stuff like that into consideration? What makes you think that the test server fleet fights are the only thing ccp is doing to gather data about the lag issues? How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
Oh, you don't. You just want to rage.
Originally by: Bomberlocks And you know this how?
Welp, there is this thing called words that are typed in another thing called a thread which contains all sorts of terribly confusing combinations of words in a place called the test server forums. Don't go there though as you might hurt yourself.. Information kills they say.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.08.04 14:59:00 -
[1795]
Originally by: Zeba How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
So you think it's the massive CCP presence at fleet fights that is actually overloading the nodes and causing the lag? Interesting. --
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Yeay Fritg
Caldari Confrerie de Kaedri Cluster Of Rebirth
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:15:00 -
[1796]
I will vote when you will have corrected all identified Dominion bugs !
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Noca Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:22:00 -
[1797]
Just to counter all they nay sayers out there who arent willing to help fix the lag problems by testing - yes, Im very happy to help out. Mostly because it will add to the sum total of eventual lag busting knowledge, and also because I'll get to have an instant fleet fight, just add water. Always wanted to see how my x type tank holds up :D
Kudos at ccp for responding eventually as well... even if it is just a snippy "yes, we see youre all annoyed" Someone at ccp plase unearth your excellence banner!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:24:00 -
[1798]
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Zeba How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
So you think it's the massive CCP presence at fleet fights that is actually overloading the nodes and causing the lag? Interesting.
Yes because ccp needs to actually be ingame and on grid with all of their dev team to pull data from the server as its running. I'm sure they do all their programming whilst docked up in station as they spin polaris frigs too.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Tradearea
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:47:00 -
[1799]
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Rage Spear
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.04 15:58:00 -
[1800]
Originally by: Noca Tiempo
...Always wanted to see how my x type tank holds up :D
It won't.
If you get primaried in a fleet battle only EHP and/or massive remote reps will make the slightest difference (or lag preventing the enemy applying dps of course).
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Aurora Robotnik
Caldari CKSSA Research And Development
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:34:00 -
[1801]
Originally by: Zeba And what makes you think ccp hasn't already taken stuff like that into consideration? What makes you think that the test server fleet fights are the only thing ccp is doing to gather data about the lag issues? How do you know that ccp isn't at every fleet fight that gets reported for a node reinforce? How do you know that ccp isn't at many fleet fights on unreinforced nodes?
Because, quite frankly, this is CCP we're talking about.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:34:00 -
[1802]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post....
Actually, we do like to hear that you're reading this thread. What we would like is more concrete feedback about what you're going to do abou the problems and less PR department.
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
.... No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread.
No, we are the ones encouraging the press to link to this thread, not you. And the reason we're doing so should be pretty obvious by now, and if it isn't then I think then there's little hope a good outcome to this, because it would show that you have no idea how we perceive the state of the game and CCP as a company.
Talk to us and that will change. Ignore us or do not respond to us and the bad PR is only going to get worse.
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Seith Silverstein
Something Rotten
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:34:00 -
[1803]
Up! Almost fell off the first page. There ya go, big guy. Don't let them live this one down.
Originally by: CCP Soundwave I am literally the internet
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:39:00 -
[1804]
Quote: TBQFH, after reading that I also wondered whether the guy was either messing with us or simply mentally challenged. Anyone who would think the bad reports about CCP currently going down in the press would be good publicity would have to have some serious problems with their perception of the real world.
Because the bad publicity comes from trolls. Anyone who is familiar with the internets can spot a troll a terabyte away. Then they can research it for themselves and make an informed decision.
I voted for eve btw I forget if I mentioned that.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 16:53:00 -
[1805]
Originally by: Cipher Jones ...
Because the bad publicity comes from trolls. Anyone who is familiar with the internets can spot a troll a terabyte away. ...
There are no doubt many people who are trolling these forums from both sides of the debate, but the story being posted in the press is too wide to only come from trolls, and if you had, for instance, read the massively, Kotaku and tentonhammer articles, you would have see that they do their own research, not just report the things that get mailed to them.
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.04 17:00:00 -
[1806]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
CCP in "Sandy Vag Shocker" over being called out by non-compliant playerbase.
Hey Applebabe, how about a deal, CCP stops taking liberties with our subs and we will stop taking liberties on your forums?
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Zepoxi
Cow Boys From HeII
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Posted - 2010.08.04 17:37:00 -
[1807]
Almost at second page, can't let that happen.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.04 17:43:00 -
[1808]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 04/08/2010 17:43:57
***CCP FIX WHATS BROKEN...NO NEW CONTENT UNTIL***
...get the point?
oh...bumpage.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Sneaky Noob
Cartamundi
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Posted - 2010.08.04 18:04:00 -
[1809]
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
You got it all wrong dude. If you'd taken the time to post something substantial the playerbase would respond in a positive manner. CCP has yet to respond other than with a bunch of meaningless replies that include "we are on vacation" or "i showed it to dudes at the marketing meeting this morning" or "hahaha look at me posting in a threadnaught" or "hahaha we un-stickyed the thread, we win!!"... THIS is what angers the players.
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
Prove it.
And before you ask, SoonÖ is not a proper response. Neither is "18 months"
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
I contribute $30.00 USD every month to help fixing the game. Fixing the game is not my job. It's yours. I don't post on these forums asking you or anyone else to come to my office and do my work for me do I?? I didn't think so.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Jackie George
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Posted - 2010.08.04 18:51:00 -
[1810]
"Dominion was a rushed and shoddy release that did great damage to my enjoyment of the game by introducing bugged new sovereignty elements and greatly increased lag in fleet combat.
By choosing to release this to meet an entirely arbitrary deadline (Iceland's independence day if I recall correctly) you went against everything you used to stand for. In the past you used to have a "ready when it's ready", "HTFU", "Soontm" attitude that meant things tended to get released in a (mostly) functional form, even if it meant ignoring the "I need it now" crowd.
Following Dominion's release I was one of the quiet people who had faith that despite this you would quickly move to fix these problems and we would once again return to normal service within a couple of months as has always been the case in the past.
Unfortunately this is not what has happened. Even now after another expansion the problems are getting more numerous and nothing seems to be being done about it. The known bugs with the new sovereignty system have not been repaired, the lag is worse than ever and is now bleeding into even small gang PvP, the new PI element is a shadow of how it was described at fanfest and even in it's own teaser video, EvEGate is nothing more than an out of game email client.
Despite this I still had faith that CCP were going to turn it around, fixes would be delivered and things would return to normal. This has not happened and my patience is not infinite.
The worst part was when you released the information about how you are allocating your developers. If Eve was running as well as it did in apocrypha 1.5 then I would have no problem with you spending lots of time and effort on new things, in fact I would welcome it (we all love new shiny stuff!) however it isn't. The last two expansions have had a disastrous effect on the playability of the core of the game and this trend must stop if you are to have any hope of continuing to grow your user base.
You must begin to work through the very long list of things that are either broken or were promised long ago and have not been delivered or you risk losing the core of your customers.
I leave with a very heavy heart and I will return as soon as you can provide a stable and functional game. I urge you to rearrange your priorities so that I can return sooner rather than later.
Regards"
A copy paste from the comment section of my subscription cancellation for all you people who think this isn't causing people to leave the game.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 18:57:00 -
[1811]
Originally by: Jackie George Dominion was a rushed and shoddy release
You know what, that hit the nail squarely on the head.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Ceirah
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:12:00 -
[1812]
Really dont give a flying crap about new expansions untill you fix the fleet lag. I Don't bother to vote because of the registration atm. I'll look into it in about, lets say 18 months. Sorry for your inconvenience. -------------------------------------------------- [2009.12.07 20:19:26] Tylr > atlas invade WI lol [20:22:32] Bobby Atlas > well i guess we will see you guys in a few weeks |
Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:14:00 -
[1813]
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Tell that to Zyrmuguist :D
QFT
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MarcusMaximus Milius
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:16:00 -
[1814]
I have been following most of the threads/articles dealing with this topic. And while I was on my way back home today, a thought came to my mind, that heads into a new direction with the whole issue. Let me first sum up some facts.
1. CSM minutes clearly stated that CCP planned ahead for at least 1,5 years, without taking any suggestions from the CSM ... which is their most reliable connection to the playerbase and as they called it themselfs "stakeholders of eve-online".
2. Although a seroius outrage followed after that, CCP did not act. I personally do not consider the latest dev blogs as a serious reaction to that.
3. Zulu's Dev blog provided us with some numbers regarding the actual distribution of developers to eve related projects. I will come back to those numbers later.
4. CCP is currently working on eve-online, dust514 and far more interesting: world of darkness. This is a keypoint of my thoughts.
5. At fanfest 2009 Helmar showed a slide during the main presentation which showed the total numbers of employees at that point. The count was 434 people working for CCP. That number is now about 10 months old and since CCP has aggressivly hired more people (see their own posts) i assume that they now have at least 500 people under command (just some kind of extrapolation from the numbers givin from helmars presentation).
6. During Fansfest 2009 the CTO and the VP of Engineering introduced a working procedure called "Corefication", which simply means to provide synergy between various projects that CCP is working on.
7. Incarna (WIS) is widely known to be a BETA Test for the main-engine of world of darkness. This perfectly fits the corefication philosophy of CCP.
8. The last 2 expansions for eve online were rather disappointing (there were high hopes for both of them - dominion and tyrannis). To be honest... both of them lacked content and excellence. They were kind of cheap things.
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase. And my guess is that CCP, at least the management, got tired of it. Why not switch to the fantasy sector? There are more players (-> more income) and they are easier to handle (less effort needed -> less developers -> more profit). Sure they would have to face a bigger competition, but yet they are experienced with eve and have some new stuff in the pocket (I am sure).
So what is indicating that move? First off, we all know CCP is working on world of darkness - no secret there. Secondly we have experienced that CCP does not seem to care any longer about the key problems of eve online. You could bring the argument that they still work heavily on incarna... but... and its a BIG BUT: Working on Incarna means working on world of darkness if u followed my facts. And thats just the tip of the iceblock. I gave u the approximatly number of people working for CCP. Lets make them 500. Take 20 away for Dust 514 (didnt see much more people as they introduced the shanghai-team). Thats 480 people left. If u do not count the incarna people into the team working on eve - since its just a false flag operation - und end up with 54 people working on eve online. Take them away from the 480 left over u end up with 426 people at CCP's pool for employess not working on eve online or dust514. Can u guess which project the majority of CCP is working on? I am pretty sure u can .... world of ****ing darkness.
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Koshiko Murakami
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:17:00 -
[1815]
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Jackie George Dominion was a rushed and shoddy release
You know what, that hit the nail squarely on the head.
TBH, for being the '0.0 patch', I'm not sure that Dominion accomplished anything positive for 0.0. Even aside from the lag that was accidental, homogenizing space was never going to lead to exciting galactic conflicts. Especially since your average player is still better off financially in empire. I guess there are a lot of stations in empire that we can all walk around in.
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Tristan Dorn
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:46:00 -
[1816]
QUIT TRYING TO RUIN MY GAME.
I am tired of the whining and all of you causing lag for your stupid wars. I have a response. Quit your crying and get over it.
Quote:
Hi,
Thank you for your feedback. We have taken note of your complaint and will send it to the appropriate people.
I assure you that we are trying our best to find a middle-ground so that both the 0.0 players and the high-sec players can enjoy themselves on the Tranquility server. We are also aware of some vocal forum posters who think they can sway us by being "loud", we do value the feedback of all of our customers but in the end we take everything into consideration and make the choice we feel is best for the community as a whole and the future of the game.
Your feedback is just as valuable as that of the 0.0 players, and thanks again for letting us know your thoughts.
Good luck in your future endeavors in the Eve universe.
Best regards, GM Zerat EVE Online Customer Support
Keep complaining and trying to get negative press for a good game, but they are onto you, and they will not let a bunch of loud mouthed WHINERS ruin all of their hard work.
Keep on keepin on CCP.
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SabotNoob
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:49:00 -
[1817]
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase.
*Chokes on coffee and sprays through the nose and onto keyboard. ____________________
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Ceirah
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:50:00 -
[1818]
Originally by: Tristan Dorn
"Your feedback is just as valuable as that of the 0.0 players"
Best regards, GM Zerat EVE Online Customer Support
I think you just got trolled. -------------------------------------------------- [2009.12.07 20:19:26] Tylr > atlas invade WI lol [20:22:32] Bobby Atlas > well i guess we will see you guys in a few weeks |
MarcusMaximus Milius
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:54:00 -
[1819]
Originally by: SabotNoob
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase.
*Chokes on coffee and sprays through the nose and onto keyboard.
hey sabot...since u seem to be irritated by my post ... explain why!
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Firkragg
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.04 19:59:00 -
[1820]
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
Originally by: SabotNoob
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase.
*Chokes on coffee and sprays through the nose and onto keyboard.
hey sabot...since u seem to be irritated by my post ... explain why!
Nah he just really hated that coffee.
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MarcusMaximus Milius
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:00:00 -
[1821]
Nah he just really hated that coffee.
oh than i wish him the best... hope the coffee wasnt taht hot ^^
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SabotNoob
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:11:00 -
[1822]
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
Originally by: SabotNoob
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase.
*Chokes on coffee and sprays through the nose and onto keyboard.
hey sabot...since u seem to be irritated by my post ... explain why!
No not irritated at all! Just thought that one line was funny since I occasionally run into or hear about the not-so-bright segment of the EVE population. You're correct in general, it takes some intelligence and commitment to hang with this game.
I thought you had some good points, thanks for posting. I feel I'm too new to have an opinion on this at the moment. I've never really experienced terrible lag since I keep to myself in empire space, but I hear about it all the time. I've noticed bugs here and there, but nothing worth posting about. Again, fairly new here.
Just hoping the outcome serves both the players and CCP. ____________________
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:31:00 -
[1823]
Edited by: Zeke Mobius on 04/08/2010 20:31:26 OMG ITS OVER 9000 x 2!!!!!!!!
SMELL MY FINGER!!
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:36:00 -
[1824]
Originally by: Zeba
Oh, you don't. You just want to rage.
In all honesty, I'm not raging, it's more like depresively accepting that I'm not going to resub when it eventually runs out.
Plus, all your words, you don't know they are at all the fleet fights so we're back round to the "ccp need to communicate better" side of things again.
Ultimatly, yes, they do lots of things well but the game, for me, is far too broken for it to be fun.
Empire sucks ass, huge fleet fights lag to frustration.
I'm just hoping that warhammer 40k doesn't blow when it comes out, or when we hear more about it, there's potential there. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:37:00 -
[1825]
Hey CCP, thanks for deleting my post, commenting on the GM communication between them and dear Tristan. Unfortunately, I got a local copy before you deleted it. Since it was quite revealing about CCP's true intentions, I going to have a think about what I should do with that local copy, copied as it was off a public space.
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MarcusMaximus Milius
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:42:00 -
[1826]
Originally by: SabotNoob
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
Originally by: SabotNoob
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
And now comes the Story. In my opinion world of darkness is literally sucking eve online dry. And why is that? We all know eve is kind of a difficult game for the developer. Its a niche genre and u need smart people in it --- that results in low income and a ever pushing playerbase.
*Chokes on coffee and sprays through the nose and onto keyboard.
hey sabot...since u seem to be irritated by my post ... explain why!
No not irritated at all! Just thought that one line was funny since I occasionally run into or hear about the not-so-bright segment of the EVE population. You're correct in general, it takes some intelligence and commitment to hang with this game.
I thought you had some good points, thanks for posting. I feel I'm too new to have an opinion on this at the moment. I've never really experienced terrible lag since I keep to myself in empire space, but I hear about it all the time. I've noticed bugs here and there, but nothing worth posting about. Again, fairly new here.
Just hoping the outcome serves both the players and CCP.
nice to see we both have some common interest... i love eve... u just fear its creators hav givin up on it :(
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Elder Man
Gallente ATRISC
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:48:00 -
[1827]
I'm going to have to side with the no guys. WAY too many issues for me to vote yes. The last 2 releases have been terrible. Sorry guys, but it is a bust right now. Nothing like it was before Dominion.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:50:00 -
[1828]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 04/08/2010 20:50:52
Originally by: MarcusMaximus Milius
...just fear its creators hav givin up on it :(
QFT.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Drichter
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:52:00 -
[1829]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
First thought: BWAAAAHAHAHAAAHHHAAAaaaaarrrrr ...
No seriously ... reported for troll-attempt.
But seriously: I would have to vote for EveOnline:Tyrannis. So no ... there were better EveOnlines, like Dominion. |
TyphMaster
Heiorun
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:52:00 -
[1830]
Curious .. I sent this topic to a few friends interested on testing EVE and they gave up. I am wondering why. --- Sig Under Construction |
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ragnar malice
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Posted - 2010.08.04 20:53:00 -
[1831]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
I haven't been playing Eve that long, but in the time I've been here I've been quite the forum lurker. It's a good way of picking up knowledge about the game.
Something I've noticed in that time is that CCP isn't particularly professional with regard to the way their staff are expected to conduct themselves on the forum (or many of you are crossing a line frequently and your managers aren't sanctioning you).
Even with your "standard" for conduct, this post is particularly... bonkers. When your colleague started this thread he was either smoking something or he was intentionally trolling. Would you care to respond on the double standard you're obviously applying here?
Honestly, I would have used the report post function, but I'm concerned that *I* might have subsequently been unfairly sanctioned.
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Miiis Sweety
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:05:00 -
[1832]
CCP Zymurgist
10/10 for trolling. Good job.
I did go look at the games, never heard of them.
Voted for Eve. Forget Icarna, delete PI.
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:10:00 -
[1833]
Haha, epic thread. Props for the balls Zymurgist.
I didn't vote for EVE. It's been in a rapid decline since I started playing in 2006. Sad. One day it will end :( ----
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:28:00 -
[1834]
Actually it was pretty good up until dominion, apocrypha was the best eve has ever been. Dominion was when ccp took a dump on the game that made them.
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:29:00 -
[1835]
that is true, Apocrypha was one of the best expansions. Then it went to ****. But GUYS WE GOT SHINEY PLANETS YA ----
fofofofo |
Jack Coutu
Gallente Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
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Posted - 2010.08.04 21:54:00 -
[1836]
No
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Kandarus
Minmatar Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 22:19:00 -
[1837]
In before the thread mysteriously disappears...
Eve used to be the only game I played. I am currently trying out other games to vote for ... oh well.
Btw, my stuffs die with my character if it comes to that. Haha
Oh noes: "Time Flux Detected You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again."
Does anything related to eve work anymore???
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 22:41:00 -
[1838]
Originally by: Bomberlocks Hey CCP, thanks for deleting my post, commenting on the GM communication between them and dear Tristan. Unfortunately, I got a local copy before you deleted it. Since it was quite revealing about CCP's true intentions, I going to have a think about what I should do with that local copy, copied as it was off a public space.
It can also be found on http://www.eve-search.com for those interested... and it is an interesting post, one that I won't try to read to far into. I just hope CCP isn't lumping together everyone in this thread, because there are some people genuinely trying to help and posting useful criticism. If they are then, well, I guess we only think we can sway CCP, but in the end they do whatever they want.
I think that's the problem CCP, the majority of people playing LOVE new content, but they love working mechanics and bug fixes even more. CCP has been doing whatever it wants, which means more shinny stuff to attract new accounts. However, this isn't what the players want. I realize that, as a company, you have a responsibility to do whatever makes you more money, regardless of how much you may love the core game on an individual level, if adding in sparkling vampires generated 3 million new paying accounts, you'd probably do it. So I guess if the players only think they can sway opinion, and CCP will always do what it wants... then there's nothing we can do and no point to this. Now, despite this self evident fact, and I'm not trying to be insulting here, a business doing whatever it takes to generate money is just common sense, but despite this fact, you have a pretty hardcore community here. If they feel like a 100 page thread-naught and bad press is the only way to get your attention, they will go for it.
I just hope you don't toss out all opinions in this post as a bunch of loud-mouths. Most of us have invested enough time and money in Eve we want to see it succeed, we're trying to post useful advice and criticism. If you have to push this new content out the door then fine, do so, but make us a promise that bugs will be fixed before the next round. The problem I feel you are running into is that players don't trust your word anymore if you did make such a promise. I feel that, if CCP came down and said "Give us 18 months to finish what we've started, and after that, no new content until fixes" that players would be happy...-IF- they trusted that you would do that. They don't though, they've heard too many times that a fix will occur SoonÖ or after the next patch (after turns out to be anytime after, not immediately after). You keep saying you are working on lag, but it's been 9 months since Dominion and lag reared it's ugly head and people don't see progress. That's what matters in the eyes of the players.
You could have 1 person working on bugs, fixes, lag, and UI and never say a word about it. If it was all getting fixed then players wouldn't be able to complain about it. Yet over and over again we hear how hard you are working on it and how you've dedicated X number of people to fixing that issue. None of this matters though as we don't see the improvements! It's the difference between you saying the servers are in the best condition they've ever been in from a technical standpoint, and the players saying "we still can't have fleet fights, rockets don't work, UI is messed, etc etc". All the numbers don't matter if you don't show progress.
Sorry, all this has been said a million times over, but I'm worried that CCP is glossing over this entire thread, weather they say so or not. I still love Eve, no I am not quitting, I do look forward to WIS. HOWEVER! that doesn't mean that I'm happy with the current state of things. I'm unhappy because your player base sets a very high bar for your game, near perfection. We know you won't always hit it, but when you get very close (AKA Apocrypha) we praise you.... {cont}
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.04 22:48:00 -
[1839]
{cont from above} When you fall below (AKA Dominion) we chastise you a bit and complain about things like lag. For your entire forums to be up in arms they way they are shows that you have fallen very far below our expectations. You are not, in our eyes, showing the Excellence you said you would. Your game, OUR game, is drifting in the wrong direction, not necessary in content, but in attitude. You let bugs, known flaws in your game, stagnate without any attention on them and no progress (again, it's progress that matters, not words).
We are, I believe, a very hardcore community. When someone quits over griefing or unfair mechanics, we say HTFU and ask for their stuff, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Yet I've seen remarkably few comments in this thread involving stuff and it being contracted over, and a large number of players letting accounts lapse. People that normally don't agree are doing so...
Ok, I'm done... listen to the players CCP, then make a decisions. Either start acting on some of that, or give up the pretense of listening at all. Some will say that having a voice is better than nothing, but I can't shake the feeling that if CCP doesn't act on some of the things the players want, not all, just some, then there isn't any use in having a voice. I could put time into something else instead of making long posts like this hoping that CCP will hear me.
-BBK
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:07:00 -
[1840]
bump keep this up guys
seems like the rage is fading away and is slowly replaced by a sad acceptance that CCP wont fix eve
objective achieved ccp? anyways , even if all that has to be said is said...keep this thread up guys , the more publicity it gets the better
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TempSniper
Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:24:00 -
[1841]
CCP the eve online community has called you out.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:49:00 -
[1842]
Originally by: TempSniper CCP the eve online community has called you out.
Would that be the same eve online community that in their complete ignorance are complaining that the mass testing (which will stress test experimental code) should be tested on the live server?
Woe is me, why do they not listen to the masses?
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.04 23:58:00 -
[1843]
Originally by: BeanBagKing
Originally by: Bomberlocks Hey CCP, thanks for deleting my post, commenting on the GM communication between them and dear Tristan. Unfortunately, I got a local copy before you deleted it. Since it was quite revealing about CCP's true intentions, I going to have a think about what I should do with that local copy, copied as it was off a public space.
It can also be found on http://www.eve-search.com for those interested... and it is an interesting post, one that I won't try to read to far into. I just hope CCP isn't lumping together everyone in this thread, because there are some people genuinely trying to help and posting useful criticism. If they are then, well, I guess we only think we can sway CCP, but in the end they do whatever they want.....
Yeah, you phrased it better than I did. I didn't know if they were humouring Tristan or if they are genuinely convinced that their current course of action is the right one. One from which they won't deviate no matter how much bad press they get.
Sadly, given Zulu's original disaster post, trying to hell us how AWESOME and UNIQUE all the new stuff will be and how we should just think about that, and given how no one from CCP has yet to comment on the actual question of priorities, just a lot of developers telling us how much they like the game and how hard they're working, and Hillmar(sp?) telling us "how passionate we are", I tend to think they won't change a thing.
I won't quit this character because I intend to get as much out of the game as I can before it dies, which probably won't be soon, but I'm pretty sure that CP will make a mess out of the Incarna or WoD beta and will leave it in that state, by which time, I'm pretty sure even the diehard loyalists will be quitting in disgust.
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:08:00 -
[1844]
39 more pages until threadnought evolves into threadtitan!
we can do it!
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Sol Silvas
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:09:00 -
[1845]
To: Know-it-all EvE-player/basement dev. CC: Pro EvE-hax0r. Message: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs.aspx
Regards, Sol
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:10:00 -
[1846]
Originally by: Sol Silvas To: Know-it-all EvE-player/basement dev. CC: Pro EvE-hax0r. Message: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs.aspx
Regards, Sol
No thanks, I don't want to spend all day coding "/dance" macros.
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Sol Silvas
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:15:00 -
[1847]
Originally by: Aerilis
Originally by: Sol Silvas To: Know-it-all EvE-player/basement dev. CC: Pro EvE-hax0r. Message: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs.aspx
Regards, Sol
No thanks, I don't want to spend all day coding "/dance" macros.
Ah, I take it you're a pro EvE-hax0r then!
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:20:00 -
[1848]
Originally by: Ranger 1 ...
Would that be the same eve online community that in their complete ignorance are complaining that the mass testing (which will stress test experimental code) should be tested on the live server?
Woe is me, why do they not listen to the masses?
As I and others have pointed out, there are very good reasons why the testing should be done on the live server:
- Number one (IMO) is the fact that really bad lag has been regularly experienced in systems with sometimes as little as one person in it. The logical consequence is that large amounts of players make the problem much worse, for obvious reasons, but that the core of the problem does not lie with the numbers of players in space. - People have put forward a number of suggestions as to what causes the lag, namely new features added since dominion, such as the Fleet Finder, Eve Gate, PI or even the new sov mechanics which are much more complex than the old ones. Personally, I would tend to go with some backend code that deals with how priority is assigned to a node, but it's a pure guess as I have no idea. - The belief is that unless CCP monitors the live situation, they will not get an accurate picture of what is happening, as the stress on the server on Sisi is nothing compared to the stress on TQ and it may well be an accumulated effect of total server stress that affects lag. This is not something you can accurately reproduce on Sisi. - Finally, the mass fleet testing has been going on for at least 6 months now with no visible signs of improvement. In fact, it has gotten worse since Tyrannis was recently introduced. There is a rising belief amongst the affected players is that CCP is either incapable of fixing the lag, or they do not care and are simply doing the tests to show that they are doing "something".
People would like to see some results from the lag testing that has been going on. That's why they are increasingly unable to take CCP at its word.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:50:00 -
[1849]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
This thread was troll bait.
How did you expect it to turn out? Sunshine and roses?
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Shaleen
Minmatar Beach Boys Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:56:00 -
[1850]
Why CCP cant realize we just want to fly ships and shoot each other without any lag and NOT walk in the stations or harvest bloody planets. If I wanted the harvesting experience I would have played Farmer. Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.08.05 00:57:00 -
[1851]
Originally by: Shaleen Why CCP cant realize we just want to fly ships and shoot each other without any lag and NOT walk in the stations or harvest bloody planets. If I wanted the harvesting experience I would have played Farmer.
This ^^^ -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.05 01:19:00 -
[1852]
Just had a read on Eve-search.com, does look like the devs dont give a s**t about this thread or the players so I think its time we all sent actual physical mail to them, anyone have CCP headquarters address lying about?
So quick question, what happens when all people in 0.0 leave, or all old players leave, new players need older players to help them out and without that you probably get maybe a month before they quit, could CCP post figures showing where the majority of income comes from? Say is it long standing CUSTOMERS or new ones and how long in general do new ones hang about before cancelling?
If CCP doesnt care about the bad press they are getting, it may just break the company, why would anyone buy or subscribe to anything they release if their flagship product is let down so badly because they are doing 'other stuff', it makes people think that that will eventually happen to whatever else is currently flavour of the month.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.08.05 01:51:00 -
[1853]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
Excuse me, the OP in this thread is a troll post to start with, seriously you are the biggest hypocrite and dumbest community manager CCP has applebabe.
CCP Applebabe talking to Nathan: Hmm, the vote thread seems to be dying down a bit, I think I should go poke it with a stick and **** off the players even more. Nathan: Sure go right ahead, its not like we give a **** about them anyway.
Bloody hypocrites CCP, you troll us with this thread and then complain when we troll you back. HTFU CCP, HTFU!
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Kleus Flek
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2010.08.05 02:05:00 -
[1854]
I have to say that seeing all this negative PR in middle of my free five days, (only five days? Thanks so much. ) has me thinking I'll take the 9.99 first month and play with my new alt missile boat empire hugger and let the sub lapse.
Seems that most in this thread have a valid point. Unfortunately, none of us have to power to correct this situation. We can only vote with our wallets. I call those who feel like CCP is seriously screwing up to stop spending as much money on it. Let a second or third account fall to the wayside for now. buy one less PLEX however often you buy them.
This thread honestly means diddle to anyone who has the power to correct the issues at hand. Cash is the only motivation when it boils down to it. Those who say otherwise are just PR spinners and I seriously hope no one here is buying it. Applebabe - for that no trolling allowed statement, I lol in your general direction. This whole thread is a massive trollnaught.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 02:30:00 -
[1855]
***FIX THE GAME...DO EET!***
Bumpage
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Sha Dar
eXceeded
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Posted - 2010.08.05 02:49:00 -
[1856]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.08.05 03:45:00 -
[1857]
CCP we want to play the game. We love this game. We hate the direction of the game though with so many features being abandoned and ignored. Not only that, there are so many bugs with the game and it just feels like the game is going down a spiral where it may not come out of. The "18 month" remark was certainly the last straw. It just is frustrating to see such a great game only go down and down since I started playing, which was right when Apocrypha was released. The game then was so good but now its a mere shadow of what it once was.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:09:00 -
[1858]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Cipher Jones ...
Because the bad publicity comes from trolls. Anyone who is familiar with the internets can spot a troll a terabyte away. ...
There are no doubt many people who are trolling these forums from both sides of the debate, but the story being posted in the press is too wide to only come from trolls, and if you had, for instance, read the massively, Kotaku and tentonhammer articles, you would have see that they do their own research, not just report the things that get mailed to them.
If I hadn't bothered to read them my ass. This is clearly a signature. |
Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:34:00 -
[1859]
YouÆll know when EVE is really Dying this is when the likes of ChribbaÆs , OmbeyÆs, Dotlan etc, turn there web sites off. These sites are what 99% of players use to get information on where to and how to & what to do. YouÆre EVElopededia is just another example of a good idea half baked taken out of the oven and then totally forgotten about. These guys are your most avid fans to have spent the effort, time and money to create player tools which you as a company cant be bothered doing for what ever reason.
Without these player sites how long do you think new players will stick around when thereÆs no information as to what to do, how to use, all youÆll get is OMG what the hell am I supposed to do. This shows a total lack of consideration for new and old players because these sites were made out of necessity primarily because these guys knew youÆd do nothing about it.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:38:00 -
[1860]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel I know you guys do not like to hear that CCP employees are reading this thread and listening to you. We are. Yes, we even read the occasional incoherent post.
There is a huge amount of action, trial & error, planning, discussion, and occasionally disagreements about priorities. But we are absolutely not ignoring you.
No, we do not believe that "all publicity is good publicity." No, we are not encouraging other sites to link to this thread. We are far too focused on the hard work of bug fixes, performance improvements, scalability, and more.
We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
You may also have the ability to contribute to improving your game. If you have time on August 5 to help test our latest fixes and improvements, please visit this thread for instructions and timing: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555
Thank you in advance, Zin
I'll help you do your job, which you get paid for, for free when you come to my office and help me do my job for free.
Not sound fair?
Get a better testing department or offer some kind of incentive beyond "we're fixing things".
It's like if my mechanic said "hey, I'll fix your car but could you come in on saturday and give me a hand" um... no...
QFT
CCP, here's how it is.
I'm your paying customer. I give you money, you deliver a product. That's the way it works. I work between 8 and 16 hours a day (depending how close to milestone) doing QA for a AAA title. I am not going to come home, and pay for the privilege to do the same thing for you. You want our help? Give us a tangible reward.
A tangible reward is NOT "you're helping make this game better!" No, I already do that by paying for a currently broken game. Earn your business CCP.
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 04:56:00 -
[1861]
Originally by: RutilusUnus CCP we want to play the game. We love this game. We hate the direction of the game though with so many features being abandoned and ignored. Not only that, there are so many bugs with the game and it just feels like the game is going down a spiral where it may not come out of. The "18 month" remark was certainly the last straw. It just is frustrating to see such a great game only go down and down since I started playing, which was right when Apocrypha was released. The game then was so good but now its a mere shadow of what it once was.
Actually Eve is doing pretty damn good looking back on the 5 years I've played. I'm really looking forward to Incarna as well. Sure they bit off a bit more than they could chew, but character avatars will really take the game to the next level, and broaden the potential user base while keeping the core gameplay just as hardcore.
That said, Apocrypha was an AMAZING expansion (those Atlanta guys must have really helped out). If we could get some more expansions with the scope of Apocrypha, Eve would be golden. Personally, I believe CCP set the bar really high with Apocrypha, and they need to keep the future releases on this caliber if they really want to be "Excellent".
I voted for Eve as best European Online game btw, because all said and done nothing comes even close to what Eve has to offer. In a world of microtransactions, level based grinders, and generic fantasy worlds, Eve stands tall for all to marvel at!
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.05 05:38:00 -
[1862]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
I've reported you as well as OP for trolling and flamebaiting.
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hohohohohohohohohoho
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:17:00 -
[1863]
I have an idea.
Get the contact details of some of the key investors of CCP,
And send them mass physical mails / emails / telephone call spam about EVE's summer of dis CONTENT.
Looks like CCP will only listen to money.
This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:25:00 -
[1864]
Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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IR Seriouscat
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Posted - 2010.08.05 06:57:00 -
[1865]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
Considering most of those players either mine or run missions, both activities being heavily nerfed in the last expansion, I think he is quite right.
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:30:00 -
[1866]
get it through your heads
most PLAYERS are involved in alliance "life"
most ALTS mine/mission maybe , thats a different story
highsec is alt land
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Anvalor
Gallente Germania Inc. D0GMA
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Posted - 2010.08.05 07:44:00 -
[1867]
Originally by: Nedefeg get it through your heads
most PLAYERS are involved in alliance "life"
most ALTS mine/mission maybe , thats a different story
highsec is alt land
Do you have a proof for that, or do you just like to pull things out of your ass ? Link some official numbers please.
on topic: I did not vote because i do not like to register for every ****.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:14:00 -
[1868]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
ROFL!!!!
When you've finished with the thread will CCP be fixed? :-D
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Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:34:00 -
[1869]
Originally by: mechtech Actually Eve is doing pretty damn good looking back on the 5 years I've played. I'm really looking forward to Incarna as well.
I read this far, then I loled.
I just bought this new car, it doesn't actually bring me where I want, the brakes don't work and the wheels fall off if I drive faster then 20mph but in 18 months they're gonna release this new cover for the back seats with such nice colours... I can't wait!
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:38:00 -
[1870]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
You, sir/lady/muppet are clueless as can be. Been to low-sec recently apart from macro-hauling? The "lag free game" there you talk about is probably true if you run a macro, as it won't mess much with your "gameplay". Try a small gang encounter with more than a dozen players instead. Once you picked the wrong system... *kazong* ... epic lag on jumping gates and what not. But hey, don't bother checking actual facts or talking to players who actually play this game, keep on trolling!
Makes one really wonder how much CCP pays you monthly to troll us persistently.
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Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.08.05 08:40:00 -
[1871]
Originally by: Zeba Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
News flash - the company you love so much just changed the Sov mechanic a few months ago and made blobbing and large fleets mandatory to be able to take and hold space.
If this were not the case and CCP designed the game so small gang stuff is even half-viable then your arguments might have some merit. This way it just shows you're a stupid fanboi.
Also, in case you haven't noticed yet, CCPs advertisement videos all show large fleet battles and present them as a major part of the game. Not your idiotic level 4s that you run all day (because the crappy excuse for PVE in EVE wouldn't attract anyone that didn't have major brain damage).
The only thing that makes EVE worth anything is the ability to build, defend and fight over large player run empires. Thanks to CCP this is only possible with large fleets.
So don't tell me that the game is working as intended.
Now go back to Motsu and let the grown-ups talk.
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Bloedkopp
Minmatar Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:29:00 -
[1872]
*hurfdurf*
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:29:00 -
[1873]
Everyone failed to understand a simple truth
The lag monster was released so 0.0 could NAP into oblivion and make EVE a more peaceful place, and nullsec more enjoyable to carebears!
HTFU PVP peeps! You need to share that political nullsec scene with them mighty carebears!
Embrace teh carebearism
Fake edit: BUMP
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.05 09:36:00 -
[1874]
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON'T THINK SO...
NOT until you guys start treating us with some respect and communicating WTF is going on.
I have to say that i paid for a years subscription on all my accounts. WHAT A MISTAKE. If there was an award for game +1 EVE, if there was an award for worthless support +1 eve if there was an award for Not listening to customers and caring +11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 EVE
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Le Cardinal
Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:04:00 -
[1875]
I will not vote on eve-online as you need to have min 7.0 standings with the eve playerbase. Your current standings are 0.1
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:08:00 -
[1876]
More like -10
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 11:35:00 -
[1877]
Posted at another place yesterday by a 5 year vet cancelling 4 accounts (you will have met him and friends on the motsu gate on occasion if you were flying something special):
Quote: I'm not drunk :p I'm just fed up with the game...
the state it's in...
how I can lag out on a gate with 1 person in local...
how I get a jump queue when going in to an empty system...
how I can engage warp and then 10 seconds later be in a station even when I saw the warp tunnel...
how I can take a 150 man fleet and take over 1.5 hours to travel 8 jumps in 0.0....
That CCP say they wont even LOOK at fixing stuff for 18 months... that (ok the CSM is a joke, we knew that) they ignore the CSM, brush them side etc...
how they snipe at people on the forums....
How when people raise proper threads, they're ignored but someone posts a "lol how long u been playing", all of a sudden 30 Devs come out the woodwork and reply within 30 minutes...
How they leave unfinished feature after unfinished feature for YEARS ON END. It's been over HALF A ****ING DECADE and there's still some of the smallest and simplist bugs in this game and they *do not give a *****. They just focus on more and more "shiney" and it's not even that shiney. There is no "wait for the next patch" - I've been doing that for 12 god damned patches. CCP clearly do not give a **** about this game any more. I don't care if individual devs themselves do, but whoever's in charge don't care - this game has been degenerating for years and in the last 6 months it's been a god damned avalanche of CCP gaff after gaff and they do not care.
They then have the audacity to post a "vote for eve cos we're super awsome" thread which backfired magnificiently btw... I am clearly not the only one but tbh enough is enough for me. There's only so much each of us is willing to take and I've reached it. I'm not taking "A STAND AGAINST THE MAN" here - I've just had enough of this ****. It's never going to get better. It's 18 months until they begin to even look at this **** let alone go about fixing it. **** that. And **** this game.
Last night I thought Eve was gonna die in about 2 years. This morning I think it will be quicker.
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:02:00 -
[1878]
So how is unsticking the thread working out for you?
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:03:00 -
[1879]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Quote:
How when people raise proper threads, they're ignored but someone posts a "lol how long u been playing", all of a sudden 30 Devs come out the woodwork and reply within 30 minutes...
I have to agree that this is very annoying. Also the wisecracks that aren't really funny in threads where upset people are posting concerns about the game don't exactly help.
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:04:00 -
[1880]
I really hope this thread doesn't die...EVER!
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:19:00 -
[1881]
I notice there's job openings in some of CCPs offices, the only things i can bring to the table are some great game play ideas and common sense, unfortunately i lack any advanced programming skills or previous experience in the gaming industry. Think i could get in with just some smart ideas? ----------------------
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DigiFusion
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:23:00 -
[1882]
Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid I notice there's job openings in some of CCPs offices, the only things i can bring to the table are some great game play ideas and common sense, unfortunately i lack any advanced programming skills or previous experience in the gaming industry. Think i could get in with just some smart ideas?
Past events say they'll take anyone willing to take the job, **** pay and not many willing to move to iceland means they kinda have to take whoever shows up first.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:34:00 -
[1883]
Originally by: Kangtar So how is unsticking the thread working out for you?
Well, it's working out fine at the moment. It's boosting the threadnaught building quite a long way actually!
Actually, I think it needs more pork chops with BBQ sauce, but I'll take it anyway
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 12:44:00 -
[1884]
Edited by: Bomberlocks on 05/08/2010 12:44:45
Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid I notice there's job openings in some of CCPs offices, the only things i can bring to the table are some great game play ideas and common sense, unfortunately i lack any advanced programming skills or previous experience in the gaming industry. Think i could get in with just some smart ideas?
The Newcastle office might be a good place to work because when/if CCP/Dust goes under, there'll be an experienced 3D engine team that can be bought/sold/enslaved etc.
As for working for CCP Iceland goes, a lot of those job openings have been there for a very long time. I think it's probably pretty hard to get good people in a tiny, isolated country of only 320k people which has just suffered a complete financial collapse and where the pay is probably pretty poor by European or US standards.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.05 13:33:00 -
[1885]
Assuming current employment or the offer of employment elsewhere, what makes EVE a great product on which to work and CCP a great employer? For all of the issues that we, as players, face with the client, with the server and with inane forum moderators, there are likely plenty of hard-worked, mismanaged and frustrated CCP employees.
CCP is still a relatively young and immature company that has only just recently ballooned up in size to where they can consider addressing multiple projects. Their internal project management, execution, testing and roll-out methodologies are still being worked out as the last two EVE "expansions" proved. Apocrypha 1.5, as good as an expansion as it turned out to be, is well over a year old in its execution. What followed more recently with Dominion and Tyrannis is the epitome of half-baked planning and testing with a dash of internal politics thrown into the mix. The current CCP work environment is putting out mediocre product.
Whether the jobs are in Iceland, the UK, the USA, China or India (QA outsourcing), they put a person in the mix of a volatile and immature project management environment that appears to still be figuring itself out.
If a prospective employee has been HTFU in other project management and development jobs, then he or she has a chance. Otherwise, fresh meat entering into the "Scrum" may find themselves with a sore bottom and an irate playerbase [undeservedly] as CCP's upper level management have so far isolated themselves from recent **** storms.
In summary, be very careful when considering employment with an entity that is currently going through growing pains, recently releasing mediocre product and poorly managing its customer relationships.
Just sayin.
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:01:00 -
[1886]
i see ccp has not released anything on the forums lately on this matter... i wonder why.. they are not fixing sh** thats why...
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Pallidum Treponema
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:04:00 -
[1887]
Originally by: Sol Silvas To: Know-it-all EvE-player/basement dev. CC: Pro EvE-hax0r. Message: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs.aspx
Regards, Sol
I've seriously given this some thought, and besides the fact that I'd need to relocate, what with all this involves for me and my family, there's one simple thing that stops me from pushing the button right now.
If I was to work for CCP, I want to work on EVE.
Tell me once again, how many of CCP's developers are working on EVE?
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Vander Ballz
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:06:00 -
[1888]
Originally by: Le Cardinal I will not vote on eve-online as you need to have min 7.0 standings with the eve player base. Your current standings are 0.1
I lold
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:24:00 -
[1889]
So, I heard that Nathan is talking about merging the chinesse server with TQ.
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2010-08-05/cgdc_2010_eve_onlines_chinese_server_to_be_merged_with_its_world_server.shtml
Asian Games Award, here we go!!
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:25:00 -
[1890]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 05/08/2010 15:25:21
I have a suggestion for CCP...BLAME THE VOLCANO!
Its no less ridiculous than anything your PR contractors have said...just sayin'.
...that will cost you (1) fixed game please, pretty cheap considering what you proly spent on damage control PR.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:30:00 -
[1891]
Edited by: Catari Taga on 05/08/2010 15:32:25 Only saw this now, so causing lag is a bannable offense?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1362220&page=1#10
Guess PVP is against the ToS now under current server conditions. --
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.05 15:50:00 -
[1892]
did they win?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:04:00 -
[1893]
Originally by: IR Seriouscat
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: hohohohohohohohohoho This thread serves as proof that they do not give a **** about their actual customers.
Considering that the overwhelmingly vast majority of players are in low and high sec enjoying their lag free game on pretty much every level along with a rather decent amount of nullsec non fleet fight players enjoying their non fleet fight content I don't think you have it quite right.
Considering most of those players either mine or run missions, both activities being heavily nerfed in the last expansion, I think he is quite right.
Yes because changing the loot tables to stop dropping tons of t1 loot totally ruined missions and mining. Granted a few players might not be making quite as much virtual money as before but who the **** cares about the accumulation of virtual wealth anyways when a single mission still gives you moar than enough isk to buy and fit out dozens of t1 pvp ships or some t2 ships if you run missions for a few hours?
You: "Yo dawg I has eleventy billion isk!!!! but with the mission loot nerf I'm only up to eleventy zillion instead of eleventy bajillion"
Me: "But you could buy anything you wanted when you only had eleventy billion isk.."
You: "THATS NOT THE POINT!!!!!!! I WANT MAH VIRTUAL MONIEZ NAO!!!!"
Me:
*glances at the market* hrmmm still just as stable now as it has ever been.
*glances at mission runners* hrmm still just as many running around killing little red crosses and not a single mission oriented whinge thread in site.
*glances at miners* hrmm people actually mine for profit in high sec that are not just idleing as they watch some shows or are a macro? Sorry but mining was nerfed looooooooong ago by the drone regions.
Originally by: Aphser You, sir/lady/muppet are clueless as can be. Been to low-sec recently apart from macro-hauling? The "lag free game" there you talk about is probably true if you run a macro, as it won't mess much with your "gameplay". Try a small gang encounter with more than a dozen players instead. Once you picked the wrong system... *kazong* ... epic lag on jumping gates and what not. But hey, don't bother checking actual facts or talking to players who actually play this game, keep on trolling!
Makes one really wonder how much CCP pays you monthly to troll us persistently.
Man I must be really lucky as I never get lag in low sec on any fw roams regardless if its just a few of us on a cane roam that literally travels the entire scope of low sec during the 6 or so hours we run or 70 of us in a frigate blob of doom. Oh wait I lied. We very rarely get some brief gate lag on roams but its never more than a few seconds at the most. Also on an op to take out a pos we had a tiny bit of lag with about 200 in local that made switching targets for the capital energy transfers take a few extra seconds. Yup the game in low sec must obviously be borked on every level imaginable. What was I thinking?
Also it makes one wonder how much isk your alliance leaders are paying for new accounts to keep the angry fleet guy alt train going in this thread.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:05:00 -
[1894]
Originally by: Average Jack News flash - the company you love so much just changed the Sov mechanic a few months ago and made blobbing and large fleets mandatory to be able to take and hold space.
Really? Then how do you explain all this newly established territory that all got taken and held since the release of dominion? I mean if its mandatory to use large fleets to take and hold territory then explain how the lack of said large fleets let pretty much anyone with a hauler set up the required infrastructure to populate the map? I mean really there are only a few sparse areas of nullsec that have any free systems left in it as all the rest hav been gobbled up as soon as the former afk empire guys let them go. Should be a good explanation and am waiting with growing anticipation for it.
Originally by: Average Jack If this were not the case and CCP designed the game so small gang stuff is even half-viable then your arguments might have some merit. This way it just shows you're a stupid fanboi.
Yes because noone does small gang stuff because its not viable. I guess all the thousands of fw players just don't get that small gang pvp is broken and all those fun lag free roams we do are a figment of our imagination. Whodathunkit?!
Originally by: Average Jack Also, in case you haven't noticed yet, CCPs advertisement videos all show large fleet battles and present them as a major part of the game. Not your idiotic level 4s that you run all day (because the crappy excuse for PVE in EVE wouldn't attract anyone that didn't have major brain damage).
Both the dominion and tyrannis vids showed less than 150 in system. Thats perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp to reinforce the node. Also the tyrannis and butterfly effect trailer both showed parts of the game that would be considered pve. You are right about the brain damage though but alas wrong about who is suffering from it.
Originally by: Average Jack The only thing that makes EVE worth anything is the ability to build, defend and fight over large player run empires. Thanks to CCP this is only possible with large fleets.
Maybe to you personally but thats just dandy as the game is a sandbox after all. Seems most don't agree with your choice of activites though and do things on a smaller but just as fun scale which is just as beneficial to the overall game as the nullsec ego follies. Yes ego follies. As there are really only a few players at the top of each alliance that actually run and profit from their player run empire with the other thousands of members all being cannon fodder and mules. In this eve is no different than real life corps.
Originally by: Average Jack So don't tell me that the game is working as intended.
Fleet fights suck laggy arse. There are also some ongoing issues with older but still perfectly playable content that needs a bit of lovin. Past that the game is in the best shape it has ever been on pretty much every level unless you are a bitter vet like myself that has already played pretty much all the content the game has to offer and would really like some moar please. Even then I still find reasons to log in regularly and play whilst enjoying myself.
So I'm telling you that yes the vast overwhelming majority of the game is working as intented. (and to toss in some \tinfoil one might say that borked fleet fights are working as intended due to all the player empires that have sprung up in nullsec since dominion. I mean you can't take and hold territory if as soon as you try to drop the tcu one of the major alliances hotdrops its supercaps on the unfortunate hauler.. )
Originally by: Average Jack Now go back to Motsu and let the grown-ups talk.
I haven't missioned in years and never did it in motsu anyways. Trade and pvp loots make me moar than enough isk to see me well into the next few years of enjoyable lag free low sec pvp or whatever strikes my fancy atm.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Bomberlocks on 05/08/2010 16:36:34
Originally by: Master Akira So, I heard that Nathan is talking about merging the chinesse server with TQ.
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2010-08-05/cgdc_2010_eve_onlines_chinese_server_to_be_merged_with_its_world_server.shtml
Asian Games Award, here we go!!
I have bad feelings about this. My thoughts go along these lines:
- Petursson is known to be one to use hype Eve (and CCP) at every single opportunity (see Hilmar on the Inspired by Iceland video for some cringe-worthy shameless plugging of his company). As the man who's been hyping WiS since 2006 what he says should usually be taken with a pinch of salt. - The Chinese Eve server only has around 9000 subscribers and was run by a Chinese company. I can't imagine it being very profitable for them and it's possible they want out, and this is Hilmar's way of saying that CCP is merging the shards, as it were. - Given the Chinese national internet restrictions, I can imagine some fun times ahead when CCP tries to integrate the forum and game with them.
I won't read more into it at this time, but the parallels to other companies merging ailing MMO servers is striking.
Edit: Of course, it could be the beginning of a whole new lag free era of prosperity, who knows?
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Cpt Flowers
Caldari Tyrans d'Or
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Posted - 2010.08.05 16:50:00 -
[1896]
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
I've reported you as well as OP for trolling and flamebaiting.
i lawled
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:04:00 -
[1897]
Originally by: Bomberlocks Edited by: Bomberlocks on 05/08/2010 16:36:34
Originally by: Master Akira So, I heard that Nathan is talking about merging the chinesse server with TQ.
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2010-08-05/cgdc_2010_eve_onlines_chinese_server_to_be_merged_with_its_world_server.shtml
Asian Games Award, here we go!!
I have bad feelings about this. My thoughts go along these lines:
- Petursson is known to be one to use hype Eve (and CCP) at every single opportunity (see Hilmar on the Inspired by Iceland video for some cringe-worthy shameless plugging of his company). As the man who's been hyping WiS since 2006 what he says should usually be taken with a pinch of salt. - The Chinese Eve server only has around 9000 subscribers and was run by a Chinese company. I can't imagine it being very profitable for them and it's possible they want out, and this is Hilmar's way of saying that CCP is merging the shards, as it were. - Given the Chinese national internet restrictions, I can imagine some fun times ahead when CCP tries to integrate the forum and game with them.
I won't read more into it at this time, but the parallels to other companies merging ailing MMO servers is striking.
Edit: Of course, it could be the beginning of a whole new lag free era of prosperity, who knows?
Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:07:00 -
[1898]
Originally by: Zeba ...Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Just for interest's sake, how old are you and in which country do you live?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:12:00 -
[1899]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Zeba ...Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Just for interest's sake, how old are you and in which country do you live?
Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:14:00 -
[1900]
Originally by: Zeba [...]Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
Figures.
And your retirement "funds" originate from Iceland, right?
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:19:00 -
[1901]
Originally by: Bomberlocks Hey CCP, thanks for deleting my post, commenting on the GM communication between them and dear Tristan. Unfortunately, I got a local copy before you deleted it. Since it was quite revealing about CCP's true intentions, I going to have a think about what I should do with that local copy, copied as it was off a public space.
I think its time for you to bail bro. You are not capable of handling this situation and the fact that you think whistleblowing on an event that totally does not require it shows me just how big a douche you and the others running to the media are being.
Get lost. For real.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:25:00 -
[1902]
Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: Zeba [...]Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
Figures.
Well that was certainly original.
Originally by: Aphser And your retirement "funds" originate from Iceland, right?
No, I bank locally and my broker had warned to not go near iceland even with someone elses money. But the "funds" all came from the tech boom of the 80's and 90's. Good god the money to be had from companys that were totally clueless about how much computer stuff really cost when when quoted terms much like the government got rolled for $20k each toilet seats around the same time. But unlike the government profiteering scams it was like a legal racket tbh. A very profitable legal racket. Then everyone mostly wised up and the boom fizzled out by the time the 21st century rolled in. But the ones who rode the wave at the beggining made out extremely well.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:33:00 -
[1903]
2 days ago my best mate's account subscription ran out and i noticed he wasnt online so i gave him a ring and asked what he was going to do. His response follows-
I'm not paying nearly ú15 a month for that pathetic waste of a game, Especially after i read the 50+ page thread on CCP asking us to vote Tyrannis for an award. AN AWARD? he shouts. Mate, you can have my labs etc that is in corp and thats it. After 4 years in eve i'm not paying money to a company that does not give a s.h.i.t anymore.
Those were his exact words. Makes me sad. Not because my best m8 no longer plays eve but because i fear it wont be long before i follow him.
Give us the game back we all love CCP. Red Moon Rising 4tw. ----------------------------------------
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 17:45:00 -
[1904]
Originally by: Saul Reaver 2 days ago my best mate's account subscription ran out and i noticed he wasnt online so i gave him a ring and asked what he was going to do. His response follows-
I'm not paying nearly ú15 a month for that pathetic waste of a game, Especially after i read the 50+ page thread on CCP asking us to vote Tyrannis for an award. AN AWARD? he shouts. Mate, you can have my labs etc that is in corp and thats it. After 4 years in eve i'm not paying money to a company that does not give a s.h.i.t anymore.
Those were his exact words. Makes me sad. Not because my best m8 no longer plays eve but because i fear it wont be long before i follow him.
Give us the game back we all love CCP. Red Moon Rising 4tw.
If he really reacted that way and you though it was perfectly normal then I'm thinking that it might have been for the best. For you too.
It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Lord Khelben
Amarr Secret Squirrel Readiness Group Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:07:00 -
[1905]
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: CCP Applebabe This thread has been cleaned up.
Trolling is not allowed on the forums.
I've reported you as well as OP for trolling and flamebaiting.
^^^ Win
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Vasili Z
Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:17:00 -
[1906]
Originally by: Zeba It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
While I agree that Eve is "just a game," you also have to take into consideration that a large number of players have played Eve for many years and made many good friends while pvping/missioning/chatting/mining in this game. They've helped shape the political and industrial landscape of the game together over a long period of time :bromance: It's understandable that people are angry, they feel CCP is ruining what's made Eve so fun for them in the past. -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 (wait a minute, micro-transactions are dumb) |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:44:00 -
[1907]
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Zeba It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
While I agree that Eve is "just a game," you also have to take into consideration that a large number of players have played Eve for many years and made many good friends while pvping/missioning/chatting/mining in this game. They've helped shape the political and industrial landscape of the game together over a long period of time :bromance: It's understandable that people are angry, they feel CCP is ruining what's made Eve so fun for them in the past.
Of course. I myself am not the happiest camper in eve over things like the lack of attention faction warfare has gotten over the years past the couple of quick fixes like boosting the lp shop and missions.(both of which simply bloated all four races militias with pve players in bombers who avoided pvp like the plague and farmed isk)
But the core issues still have been ignored for pretty much the entire time its been deployed. But I'm not about to go shout at someone over it then rage quit over a single issue. Thats juvenile. Especially when there are plentiful other pvp options in the game that even let you use your supercaps just like you were in nullsec only without the massive blobs.
I also totally understand the anger from the players who like nullsec fleet fights. I'm sure if the parts of the game I enjoy were as unplayable as they currently are for you then I would be quite vocal on the forums about it.(logical vocal. not self inflicted wounds emo vocal) Hell I was always counting on ccp to fix the lag so that one day I could experiance a truely massive fight on the epic sci fi movie scale. I even bought the cap skills and cap ships for all my alts when it looked like dominion would be a winner. Big let down yes and literally tens and tens of billions sunk in skills and ships I barely use in fw.
But meh I just changed direction and did something else fun in eve just like when your race of choice gets the nerfbat so you have to train a new race to get the good stuff again. So yeah, I do indeed understand. But what I don't understand is this general rise of thread about zomg fleet fights still suck so by default ccp is a horrible evil company and also the rest of eve sucks! I mean to be fair I'm not really suprised at it but none of it is helping in any way and could be figured to actually hurt the overall game which in turn hurts the people who want to have playable fleet fights.
So yeah people need to take a step back and get some perspective.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.08.05 18:50:00 -
[1908]
Originally by: Zeba I'm not about to go shout at someone over it then rage quit over a single issue.
There's only one issue eh. Oh ok. Good to know. here I thought there were several.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:05:00 -
[1909]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Zeba ...Hahah! Now we know what 'Invasion' is. Prepare yourselves..
But ccp never wanted to split the playerbase anyways so all they will do is shut down the china servers(probably reusing them for tq and the servers needed for dust matches) and convince the chinese government to let the former eve players on the tq cluster. Maybe now that ccp has an active develpment studio and office in shanghai and also employing chinese nationals they have some pull to use? Otherwise can't really see how adding in an additional 9000ish players not used to the cut throat mentality of the real server would be a bad thing for us.
Just for interest's sake, how old are you and in which country do you live?
Retired and in America. Second generation British. Why?
The reason I asked was because I thought your post to be terribly naive. If you have any idea of how the Chinese version of Eve is being played you wouldn't be too exited about this possibility happening. Their game lives off RMT, aka Farmers and Macroers, and RL RMT organisations paying a lot of real life money to buy ISK and alliances. They have an extremely strict economy where the workers farm for the bosses, who have so much ISK that they have fought wars by buying an entire alliances worth of ISK to defeat the selling Alliance. If you think nullsec politics are harsh right now, I don't think you would like what that would bring.
Aslo, I'm not to sure you have an accurate picture of how much influence an organisation like CCP, with its few hundred employees have. If a giant like Google lost out to the Chinese government, I seriously doubt that CCP would be of much interest to anyone there.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:09:00 -
[1910]
Originally by: Frug
Originally by: Zeba I'm not about to go shout at someone over it then rage quit over a single issue.
There's only one issue eh. Oh ok. Good to know. here I thought there were several.
There is only one current issue that has a part of eve completely unplayble. And the context of my reply was to the guy who ragequit because of nullsec issues. Are there other issues? You bet your arse and there are scores of threads about them. Some of the threads are well thought out and full of useful information or even handy workarounds. Others are simply exercises in juvenile rage much like this one that was highjacked by the type of person who ragequits and goes emo at his friend over a problem in a game. I wonder how the poor lad will react in real life over something serious like his gf leaving him over his ever increasing gaming habits and the anger it creeps into his rl situations? Will he scream at her too?
Step away from the computer. It time to quit playing for a bit.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Whiskey Fish
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:19:00 -
[1911]
Edited by: Whiskey Fish on 05/08/2010 19:21:29
Quote: It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
You are absolutely right. It is just a game, but it's a game that we are spending time on, time that could be spent somewhere else. And for some, rl money. Some people choose to pay for the game rather than buy gtc's with isk. It's thier choice.
Even tho it's "just a game" real relationships and friends and drama and everything else that goes with it is real, in this "just a game".
That why you see this thread becoming what it is, it's about a passion for the game that we want fixed. It's not that hard to grasp. Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug, and I'm tired of being a ****ing bug.
No, I'm not voting for Eve.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:22:00 -
[1912]
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion King
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:25:00 -
[1913]
Thankgod im the windshield wiper. Now gtf off my windshield bug! |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 19:25:00 -
[1914]
Originally by: Bomberlocks The reason I asked was because I thought your post to be terribly naive. If you have any idea of how the Chinese version of Eve is being played you wouldn't be too exited about this possibility happening. Their game lives off RMT, aka Farmers and Macroers, and RL RMT organisations paying a lot of real life money to buy ISK and alliances. They have an extremely strict economy where the workers farm for the bosses, who have so much ISK that they have fought wars by buying an entire alliances worth of ISK to defeat the selling Alliance. If you think nullsec politics are harsh right now, I don't think you would like what that would bring.
The chinese server was not under direct ccp control and also had no impact on the real tq server that is ccp's bread and butter so they really would have no interest in keeping serenity as cleanish as tq. As far as the quality of player well somehow I don't think they would be able to transfer territory rights or even the bulk of their assets. If it happend most likely they would get a bunch of isk and thier current character to use if they decided to join with the tq population. Either that or not be able to play at all or only with a brand new character. Also the rmt would hit a brick wall as the rules are different here than on serenity. What works there most likely won't work here or they would already be here using tunneling programs to get past the great firewall of china or simply setting up shop in a place with easier access. But anyhoo ccp wrangler already stated that the article was a misunderstanding and they have no plans to actually join the populations of both servers on any level.
Originally by: Bomberlocks Aslo, I'm not to sure you have an accurate picture of how much influence an organisation like CCP, with its few hundred employees have. If a giant like Google lost out to the Chinese government, I seriously doubt that CCP would be of much interest to anyone there.
But other smaller foreign companies get rights to operate in china all the time. So size does not matter, only what the company offers. Google offered information technology and more importantly possible access to foreign web content which is not something the chinese government wants any competition with. CCP simply offers an mmo with limited access to outside players which your average chinese citizen can already get with a few simple hacks to his computer. Add in a special client that limits some certain features like the igb and maybe certain chat channels and then you could easily let them in the main game. But again this isn't going to happen so back to the normal eve sucks content asap!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:09:00 -
[1915]
/moar popcorn
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:14:00 -
[1916]
Originally by: Syn Callibri /moar popcorn
I know.
Its been a pretty fun thread so far even if I got to the party late. If people want to keep bumping it to add to the general lulz then I'm in it till the eventual lock.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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R'tur
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:14:00 -
[1917]
Fan fest should be good the next time around and it's still a no vote meh !
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:18:00 -
[1918]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Aphser And your retirement "funds" originate from Iceland, right?
No, I bank locally and my broker had warned to not go near iceland even with someone elses money. But the "funds" all came from the tech boom of the 80's and 90's. Good god the money to be had from companys that were totally clueless about how much computer stuff really cost when when quoted terms much like the government got rolled for $20k each toilet seats around the same time. But unlike the government profiteering scams it was like a legal racket tbh. A very profitable legal racket. Then everyone mostly wised up and the boom fizzled out by the time the 21st century rolled in. But the ones who rode the wave at the beggining made out extremely well.
edit: oh and riddle me this batman. If I 'worked' for 'them' then why the hell would I be bumping this thread? Especially for off topic digressions such as this. Seems rather a daft thing for 'them' to hire someone to do yes?
"Batman", eh? Seems my sec status has grown too positive. For the sake of the argument then... If you were, by chance, a dev Alt, notorious CCP fanboi or someone hired to do some PR for CCP, ofc you would still laud their efforts/excuse their shortcomings/etc. as this thread would be bumped anyway. But you would be present to discredit/refute any legitimate criticism nevertheless. Putting the right spin on it, right, doctor?
Doesn't really help your stance tho that you keep reiterating it just being a matter of 1000 vs. 1000 big fleet fights in nullsec. Those of us who do not live exclusively in nullsec know darn well that is by far not the only game-breaking/-impeding issue ATM. Didn't you mention FW before? Isn't that the still ongoing, highly-bugged venture CCP practically abandoned since at least a year ago? I remember having some fun there in the beginning, but these days...
Lucky you if you never ever get real lag issues in low-sec, but alas, not all of us are as lucky as you. Now excuse me while I make sure my 2nd account stays unsubscribed FTTB...
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:43:00 -
[1919]
Originally by: Syn Callibri BLAME THE VOLCANO!
All that Volcanic ash has blocked their ears.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.08.05 20:44:00 -
[1920]
Originally by: Whiskey Fish Edited by: Whiskey Fish on 05/08/2010 19:21:29
Quote: It's just a game guys. Step back a bit and get some perspective.
You are absolutely right. It is just a game, but it's a game that we are spending time on, time that could be spent somewhere else. And for some, rl money. Some people choose to pay for the game rather than buy gtc's with isk. It's thier choice.
Even tho it's "just a game" real relationships and friends and drama and everything else that goes with it is real, in this "just a game".
That why you see this thread becoming what it is, it's about a passion for the game that we want fixed. It's not that hard to grasp. Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug, and I'm tired of being a ****ing bug.
No, I'm not voting for Eve.
I have to add one bit here.
Soccer, hockey, baseball etc...all just games. Do you go around telling the supporters to calm down and shout less? Because it is just a game?
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Azuse
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:29:00 -
[1921]
What's sad about this is it's indicative of ccp over the past two years.
Thread was pro ccp, thread was sticky.
Players disagreed with ccp, thread is un-stickied in the hope it will simply go away.
Ccp trying to forget the problem i.e. ignoring the customers (this is the problem) again makes them even angrier by not only reminding them why they're mad but making the problem worse. Introducing new players to the (relatively) recent problems associated with ccps rapid growth. -------------------------
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Aiko Shinjiro
Mean Corp Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:34:00 -
[1922]
..Just a Copy, out of a byebye-mail to Ally from a long time player, who just quit some days ago.......
<<Just a thank you to all of y'all for allowing me to fly with you for the past few years, it's been a lot of fun and had a good few laughs.
Unfortunately, much like CCP, I feel my time and money would be best served on something else other than EVE.>>
guess that needs no further comment... Yarrharr fiddle dee dee
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Norantio
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.05 21:36:00 -
[1923]
Go Perfect Dark!
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Cory Mansini
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:04:00 -
[1924]
My vote is no for this reason
1. This thread should be required reading for new players. 2. Removing/Hiding post, or spam as the DEV wish to call it.
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Nimbat
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Posted - 2010.08.05 22:58:00 -
[1925]
Posting.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.05 23:00:00 -
[1926]
doing my part to keep this up to the top! ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Snaut
Minmatar Beach Boys Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:13:00 -
[1927]
Originally by: Azuse What's sad about this is it's indicative of ccp over the past two years.
Thread was pro ccp, thread was sticky.
Players disagreed with ccp, thread is un-stickied in the hope it will simply go away.
Ccp trying to forget the problem i.e. ignoring the customers (this is the problem) again makes them even angrier by not only reminding them why they're mad but making the problem worse. Introducing new players to the (relatively) recent problems associated with ccps rapid growth.
This. I mean even that simple move shows what they think about their customers.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:18:00 -
[1928]
ITT we now rage about CCP's sticky policy ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Cyprus Black
Caldari 4 wing Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:20:00 -
[1929]
lol, are you serious CCP? ________________________ CCP: "Sorry, we don't have the resources to fix old game features for at least two years, but we do have the resources to produce new game features."
lol wut? |
Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:29:00 -
[1930]
posting in threadnaught --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost |
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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.08.06 00:51:00 -
[1931]
It does make me lol when you consider that they unstickied it to try and dust it under the rug. Guess that ain't happening. /bump Also, anyone who is quitting over the lag please refer to my signature. ____________________________________________________________
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BladeWielder
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 01:18:00 -
[1932]
Fix your F**king game ! There is so much potential in the Eve Universe yet you are squandering it all away with useless crap that none of your existing playerbase want, F**k getting greedy.
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Dave PSI
Haendlergilde Gilde Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:10:00 -
[1933]
Bad timing!!! Eve was never in such a bad shape like it is at the moment, instead of going forward you are making steps back. Fix this, even if you need to remove the last "expansion" (i would call it more complete fail) do it.
T R U S T shop: http://www.evetrust.com // Haendlergilde [HAE]
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:26:00 -
[1934]
I like EVE, but yeah CCP, you havent done your best work the last year or so. I wanna see Incarna as bad as anyone, but not at the expense of there being no one to talk to when it is released, due to them all quitting cause your game is taking turn after turn for the worse.
Unstickying the thread was kind of...lame, btw. Space is fun! |
Dave PSI
Haendlergilde Gilde Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 02:42:00 -
[1935]
Voted for "Perfect Dark", not that i have a clue what this is, but take it as a vote against your latest game design politics and ignoring your players & CSM.
T R U S T shop: http://www.evetrust.com // Haendlergilde [HAE]
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MorbidAngel4
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:01:00 -
[1936]
CCP, please have one of your people research a game called Star Wars Galaxies and look at the fate of that game.
I have been playing this game for a long time would hate to see it go down that route. Please look at how your going about your business and see how you can make these improvements.
At the moment im not mad enough to unsub me 2 accounts but if there is no improvements in the near future I will be done.
PLEASE FIX THIS.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:21:00 -
[1937]
Wow Zeba is trolling people in this thread pretty well. Good work brah.
Countdown until CCP nukes this thread?
Taking bets now.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:25:00 -
[1938]
for all the emoragequitting not 1 i repeat not 1 person has sent me their untold beeeelions :(
comon there has to be 1 grinch whose heart grows bigger tonight lol
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:26:00 -
[1939]
Originally by: Zeke Mobius for all the emoragequitting not 1 i repeat not 1 person has sent me their untold beeeelions :(
comon there has to be 1 grinch whose heart grows bigger tonight lol
Awesome post bro.
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.08.06 03:43:00 -
[1940]
Not much CCP can say. The problem stems from multiple years ago when CCP management suit had the arrogance to believe the game would be fine coasting (and then they broke it) for a bit (but it took longer than they thought) while they knocked out a couple of other games (which absorbed more manpower and resources than they expected) and now they're stretched thin but can't risk stopping development of the other titles they've invested so much in.
So as such all their talk about "Agile methodology" or "communication" is 100% smokescreen because it mean anything when they just don't have the resources to maintain Eve and keep it growing.
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Stardrifter1979
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.06 04:00:00 -
[1941]
I can not vote for EVE atm as the server has crashed I will try again in 18 months.
Fight hard, Fight noble |
Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.06 04:24:00 -
[1942]
bump
CCP , fire your beancounters and all your PR including zeba
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Velvet69
eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.06 05:23:00 -
[1943]
Zeba reviews World of Tanks
Proud Member of 'The House of Prawn' If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions |
Gilda Fett
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Posted - 2010.08.06 06:14:00 -
[1944]
Bump
No votes for CCP
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Norantio
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 06:45:00 -
[1945]
hmm...they can't be blind to all this
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.06 07:24:00 -
[1946]
Originally by: Norantio hmm...they can't be blind to all this
Theyre not, the people in charge just care about different things than when they started.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Alexander Omega
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Posted - 2010.08.06 07:31:00 -
[1947]
**** you, fix your ****ing game you morons. |
Trauli
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Posted - 2010.08.06 07:47:00 -
[1948]
Edited by: Trauli on 06/08/2010 07:49:07
Originally by: Velvet69 Zeba reviews World of Tanks
Now that is a neckbeard.
Also buff KV.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.06 07:51:00 -
[1949]
Originally by: Velvet69 Zeba reviews World of Tanks
Actually, that looks like a fun game. Also, it's too young to be full of ponies in garages like Eve is. Gonna give it a try.
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Tharill daSai
Caldari Spirits Inc. Free United Spirits
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Posted - 2010.08.06 07:58:00 -
[1950]
First: bad timing
Second: you lack of replies are angering the players
Third: this thread wont be locked as they know that would only enrage the players even more.
I will be playing this game yet, as the part of the game I enjoy is not that lag prone, but I was really disappointed about the click-fest that PI turned out to be, so I wont be playing that, like I would loved to.
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Arkady Drayson
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:00:00 -
[1951]
bump
this thread will never die till u fix yur ****ing game, Inappropriate content removed.Applebabe
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:10:00 -
[1952]
Originally by: Alexander Omega **** you, fix your ****ing gamePersonal attack removed.Applebabe
________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:49:00 -
[1953]
1. Game is good no one can argue with that 2. Your customer service and prioritising is ****. 3. Only lemmings argue that the Eve isn't broken 4. Im bored of this now 5. Be nice for an apology, you've done a smashing job at enraging the eve community. finally 6. No vote this year, become more people orientated and get out from behind your screen mores. Actually do something that most of the gamers have been waiting for, for a long time fix the bugs **stop creating content on top of new content on top of new content and the leave bugs** On that note i've been waiting for the Guristas HQ bug to be fixed, you keep toying with me, i find one do the room it esculates but I get no co-ordinates! Apparently it was meant to be fixed 12 months ago! this is what we are so ****ed off about! AND now your devote your time to a FPS for the console N1
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.06 08:49:00 -
[1954]
hahahaha
they are still wtaching this
CCP **** you , CCP pr **** you , **** you ****in ****tards fix your ****ing game
and kill your beancounters!
now they`ll have to remove this hehe
bump
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Morrow Borric
Minmatar Morrow Prime Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.06 09:45:00 -
[1955]
If we start ****ting up this thread it will give CCP an excuse to lock it.
Let's keep it on topic and continue encouraging CCP to focus their efforts on fixing known issues and not developing new content. ------------------------------------------ "I used to play Eve Online because I enjoyed how it made me feel, now I play to stop from getting sick." |
Doom Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:05:00 -
[1956]
Originally by: Morrow Borric If we start ****ting up this thread it will give CCP an excuse to lock it.
Let's keep it on topic and continue encouraging CCP to focus their efforts on fixing known issues and not developing new content.
The first 30 or so pages has good suggestions and stuff, after the 60 page mark though with no real reply (other then "we're watching") it's going to derail a tad I guess as peoples frustrations build...
oh and no vote from me
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wizzard66
Gallente Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 10:28:00 -
[1957]
Bump
Untill CCP understands that the playerbase and the playbility of the current game is bigger than all new nifty shiny new lights
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari Tritanium Space Whales Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:26:00 -
[1958]
Bottom line. While subscriptions increase, the powers thast be will not change thier business practice, and tbh why should they?
Increased revenue is always a good thing.
So what if 400, 500, 1000 older players get cheesed off and leave? as long as new players subscribe even if only for a few months, it's all good for the suits.
It's no longer about a cutting edge game striving for continued excellence. It's about ISK (Icelandic Crowns in this case) generation.
This is the real world people nothing is for nothing when you emerge from the basement into the sudden harsh glare of reality.
Am I happy with the situation? No. Will I be voting for Eve? No. Will I be insulting the Devs and declaring Jihad? Also No. Will I carry on playing? Probably: and there's the reason the developers priorities wont change. |
Vexion Daran
Gallente Templars of Space AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:30:00 -
[1959]
Almost all EVE players are addicts. Like other kind of addicts like drugs and alcohol or even smoking, they are always claiming they will quit and that it is bad for their health. These statements always come after a shot, drink or smoke. When that effect runs out they need more...they get their fix and state the same again. Always telling eveyrone they will quit.
CCP are getting more subscribers every month, so i think the game is still that good!
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:34:00 -
[1960]
I reckon we are just beta-testers for the Chinese version... They've only just got Apocrypha and I bet it wasn't as buggy as it was when it hit everywhere else...
Lag, bugs, and too many new things... no vote... sorry... |
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:36:00 -
[1961]
Originally by: Vexion Daran Almost all EVE players are addicts. Like other kind of addicts like drugs and alcohol or even smoking, they are always claiming they will quit and that it is bad for their health. These statements always come after a shot, drink or smoke. When that effect runs out they need more...they get their fix and state the same again. Always telling eveyrone they will quit.
CCP are getting more subscribers every month, so i think the game is still that good!
The concept behind EVE is awesome. The implementation and maintenance sucks. And there is where we are stuck. We hope for light at the end of the tunnel, for the fulfillment of promises, so we stick around.
But if there had been another EVE-like MMO out there, I'd be out of here.
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Dibbles II
Kathryn Janeway Looks Ridiculous
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:37:00 -
[1962]
I have faith that this outrage by the community will get the ball rolling. I could not believe my eyes when viewing this thread, initially at the audacity of the OP (who quite clearly got the short straw) but then the intensity of negative response.
There is no question about the diverse content of this game, and the true sandbox online experience, traits that have kept me occupied for over 5 years. I have however frequently questioned why content already included is not refined, why issues illustrated by the very testers themselves (the players) are not rectified; it is simply on the grounds of common sense that these needs be met before introducing anything new.
It saddens me that the might of this particular game and itÆs historically superior approach to development has been tainted by the thirst for profit.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:53:00 -
[1963]
I'm fairly shocked (ok... more disapointed) that there hasn't been any decent communication to the player base since all this has kicked off.
A dev blog, a news feed, something. Telling us if any of this is actually effecting anything or if it's just being viewed as "a vocal minority moaning"
Did you learn anything from the mass test? How well did it go? Did you get decent numbers? If you'd offered incentives would it of been more of a success? Is there any way you could of forseen this? --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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TheTradeMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.06 11:56:00 -
[1964]
Originally by: Nomad Vherokic I reckon we are just beta-testers for the Chinese version... They've only just got Apocrypha and I bet it wasn't as buggy as it was when it hit everywhere else...
Lag, bugs, and too many new things... no vote... sorry...
Lets learn chinese and all move to that server! Just remember not to talk negitively about chine and we'll be fine :D
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Vesper Gunn
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:13:00 -
[1965]
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey I'm fairly shocked (ok... more disapointed) that there hasn't been any decent communication to the player base since all this has kicked off.
A dev blog, a news feed, something. Telling us if any of this is actually effecting anything or if it's just being viewed as "a vocal minority moaning"
Did you learn anything from the mass test? How well did it go? Did you get decent numbers? If you'd offered incentives would it of been more of a success? Is there any way you could of forseen this?
I imagine they are waiting for the result of the vote. Hoping for miracle.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:14:00 -
[1966]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch The concept behind EVE is awesome. The implementation and maintenance sucks. And there is where we are stuck. We hope for light at the end of the tunnel, for the fulfillment of promises, so we stick around.
But if there had been another EVE-like MMO out there, I'd be out of here.
That is the ONLY reason EVE is so 'successfull' (if this is success then I sure hope no other company strives to be this good). Most MMO's fail because they have nothing new to bring to the world of MMO's and this is where EVE shines but the moment there's a decent competitor you'll see lag disappearing and Jita will never be conjested again.
You think this isn't possible? Look at Serenity and you'll see possibility because it's only a matter of when, not if.
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Susitna
Caldari The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.06 12:55:00 -
[1967]
After the tyrannis release, after it became obviouse the CSM was nothing but PR with zero intent from CCP do act on their input? --- Your kidding right?
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.06 13:52:00 -
[1968]
Be interesting to compare eve's votes from the previous times it was nominated to this years.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.06 14:20:00 -
[1969]
Quote from a corp forum today:
Quote: In <alliance in Stain> sunday CTA was cancelled becouse 90% of active alliance members were playing WoT. I meet there even x, y and z (3 veteran FW players) , even goons have their channel there
That settles it, going to get my WoT beta key and go look what's up there. Sounds like a lot of fun.
P.S. CCP, I do hope you're taking note of the enthusiasm that WoT is generating.
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Ardvaark Ratnik
Minmatar Voice of the Blood Raiders
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:03:00 -
[1970]
I chose not to vote for Eve Online this year. I see the last few upgrades as breaking many parts of the universe, with little or no action on CCP's part in fixing known issues. I am not planning on rage quitting, although for the last 2 months, my online time has been mostly setting skills and running a few limited missions as time permitted.
My evening free time is going to increase in about 3 weeks, giving me more time to be online, and to be honest... I don't have this great burning desire to play Eve. I am incredibly frustrated with what PI has changed, and also frustrated with how I perceive Eve going down hill since it's inception. I may need to take a break "soon" just to see if CCP get's their act together and start fixing the issues.
Eve is a great game and has held my attention since Beta, but as I have been sitting back and following all that have been going on in the forums, I grow weary of the lack of action (bug fixes, our logs show nothing, macro whatever's, etc...) from CCP. I may or may not be here in a month. 1 or 2 subscriptions to CCP don't mean much to them, but hey... It's my money, my time and my life, I will vote as I see fit.
Ardvaark
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:09:00 -
[1971]
Lo sec = Borked Hi sec = Borked No sec = Borked Faction warfare = Borked Mining = Borked, hard Invention = Borked PI = ****ing Borked -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:12:00 -
[1972]
Originally by: King Gore Lo sec = Borked Hi sec = Borked No sec = Borked Faction warfare = Borked Mining = Borked, hard Invention = Borked PI = ****ing Borked
The primary focus of EVE is working as designed... and yes, I do mean MISSIONS! Go run some missions and turn into a mindless carebear and it will all make sense while all your problems evaporate in that mighty isk faucet!
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.06 15:43:00 -
[1973]
Edited by: Drek Grapper on 06/08/2010 15:43:35 Actions speak louder than words people...
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
DON'T RESUB
The drop in revenue would surely get someone to WAKE UP
Edit: oh and page 66 snipe!! -- "If itÆs true that our species is alone in the universe, then IÆd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little" George Carlin |
Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:05:00 -
[1974]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 06/08/2010 16:06:40
Originally by: Drek Grapper Edited by: Drek Grapper on 06/08/2010 15:43:35 Actions speak louder than words people...
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
DON'T RESUB
The drop in revenue would surely get someone to WAKE UP
Edit: oh and page 66 snipe!!
Nah...they would just drop eVe and move on to something even moar insipid, like "Hello-Kitty/DUST-Bunny/(Incarna)Expansion" or something.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.06 16:10:00 -
[1975]
Voted EVE for EGA!
Proud EVE player, through thick and thin! We are there.
L++++L++++L+++++L+++++L+++L+L+L+L+L+L+L+L+L+++++++L++++++++++++++++++++++++L+++++++++++++++L+++++++
FORCA EVE!
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Abbot Laarkin
Order Of Mystical Mountain Monks
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:37:00 -
[1976]
Sorry CCP, but NO!.
I'm not leaving, not yet anyway. But as it stands at the moment Eve simply does not deserve to win that award.
Roll back to pre-Dominion and I'll vote immediately, not to mention pod any corp mate who doesn't ----
Originally by: Sir Carnage
Originally by: Marko Riva Why does that read like they're all 12 and have an IQ of 37?
I was under the impression they were 37 and had an IQ of 12
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iluvThecranberries
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:40:00 -
[1977]
I don't see why CCP wants to attract more players to the game with shinny features when the servers can't even support the currently player base without ****ting on themselves.
TBH ccp's games are very poor quality compared to other MMO's, I like eve but it would be very nice if a company that had a clue what they were doing would just buy out ccp so someone competent could run this.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.06 17:45:00 -
[1978]
Originally by: iluvThecranberries I don't see why CCP wants to attract more players to the game with shinny features when the servers can't even support the currently player base without ****ting on themselves.
TBH ccp's games are very poor quality compared to other MMO's, I like eve but it would be very nice if a company that had a clue what they were doing would just buy out ccp so someone competent could run this.
Because more subs means more money. What part of that don't you understand?
* Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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achoura
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:05:00 -
[1979]
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Because more subs means more money. What part of that don't you understand?
You do realise that selling someone something that you know doesn't work as advertised, on the basis of turnover instead of long-term custom, could almost be considered a scam :)
I think people are mostly miffed at the number of things that ccp breaks, then doesn't fix for 1-2 years (e.g. pirate entrapment array still doesn't work) rather than the things ccp put in game then left (complexes/mining etc.) ***The EVE servers and their patches***
[b]"The data does not suggest that polished content sells better th |
Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:16:00 -
[1980]
Originally by: Drek Grapper Edited by: Drek Grapper on 06/08/2010 15:43:35 Actions speak louder than words people...
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
DON'T RESUB
The drop in revenue would surely get someone to WAKE UP
Go ahead then. give me your stuff before you go. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:44:00 -
[1981]
Originally by: HarrietMiers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB8ost406wA
Sums this thread up rather nicely.
Hehe. Cute.
But this one is far closer tbqh.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Memphis Raines
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Posted - 2010.08.06 18:50:00 -
[1982]
No lag fix? No vote. Period. You guys broke this game seriously over a year ago and haven't been able to repair it. I barely log in anymore on any of my accounts because of how crapped up the servers are.
Best of luck.
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Neyrissa
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Posted - 2010.08.06 19:23:00 -
[1983]
Originally by: Memphis Raines No lag fix? No vote. Period. You guys broke this game seriously over a year ago and haven't been able to repair it. I barely log in anymore on any of my accounts because of how crapped up the servers are.
Best of luck.
/signed !!!
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:32:00 -
[1984]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch The concept behind EVE is awesome. The implementation and maintenance sucks. And there is where we are stuck. We hope for light at the end of the tunnel, for the fulfillment of promises, so we stick around.
But if there had been another EVE-like MMO out there, I'd be out of here.
I have felt this way since launch. Such a wonderful vision, so deeply flawed by indifferent or misdirected effort. I was so inspired by this game in beta, and what it could become, that my rusty little heart broke a little when it became obvious that all that promise was being squandered.
And bump. --
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:40:00 -
[1985]
i would like to know what they will be putting in to the next exspansion.
some details on bug fixes and such, would go a long way to settel peoples minds i think
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.08.06 21:40:00 -
[1986]
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 06/08/2010 21:40:35
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: HarrietMiers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB8ost406wA
Sums this thread up rather nicely.
Hehe. Cute.
But this one is far closer tbqh.
this one made me lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3IbkYeDWuQ
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Undertow Latheus
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Posted - 2010.08.06 23:56:00 -
[1987]
I just upgraded to the SU-100 in WoT, and finally retired my good old SU-85 . The SU-100 is quite a bit more survivable than the 85, but I'm waiting until I unlock the 122mm cannon so I can get some serious firepower. Signature removed due to non-EVE related.Applebabe |
jacob2471
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Posted - 2010.08.07 00:25:00 -
[1988]
Just casting my vote with the in 18 months crowd
/Signing off
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Vince Prince
Caldari Everyday Discipline Bondage Patrol
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Posted - 2010.08.07 01:48:00 -
[1989]
You got my vote for the European Games Award guys.
now the rest of you shame on you!! Look how you all jump on the band wagon.
I for one love Eve and look forward to more content from CCP. o4 player so i have seen this all before most of you really don't have a clue just how far CCP has bent over backwards for us players.
I for one feel that i helped to build and shape this game just by taking part in it.
It will get fixed, you can bet your ass it will get fixed. Now stop being sheep and vote for the game we all love, trust me if you didn't love eve you would not be so angry now.
Why would anyone want hurt Eve!! She's so beautiful. Now be nice to her she loves you, you love her to don't you!
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.07 03:01:00 -
[1990]
Originally by: Drek Grapper Edited by: Drek Grapper on 06/08/2010 15:43:35 Actions speak louder than words people...
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
DON'T RESUB
Then how would I tell them to suck it?
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.07 03:11:00 -
[1991]
Originally by: Vince Prince You got my vote for the European Games Award guys.
now the rest of you shame on you!! Look how you all jump on the band wagon.
I for one love Eve and look forward to more content from CCP. o4 player so i have seen this all before most of you really don't have a clue just how far CCP has bent over backwards for us players.
I for one feel that i helped to build and shape this game just by taking part in it.
It will get fixed, you can bet your ass it will get fixed. Now stop being sheep and vote for the game we all love, trust me if you didn't love eve you would not be so angry now.
Why would anyone want hurt Eve!! She's so beautiful. Now be nice to her she loves you, you love her to don't you!
Devs shouldn't be allowed to post with alts.
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Korbin Dallaz
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Posted - 2010.08.07 03:14:00 -
[1992]
Originally by: SIEGE RED You're serious?
This says it all perfectly. The thread should have ended after the first response.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.07 03:51:00 -
[1993]
Um.
No.
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Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:02:00 -
[1994]
---- Proper piracy starts at home. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:20:00 -
[1995]
Edited by: Zeba on 07/08/2010 04:19:51
Originally by: Corduroy Rab
Probably the best reply to any thread evah.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Jack Coutu
Gallente Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
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Posted - 2010.08.07 05:03:00 -
[1996]
Originally by: Vince Prince You got my vote for the European Games Award guys.
now the rest of you shame on you!! Look how you all jump on the band wagon.
I for one love Eve and look forward to more content from CCP. o4 player so i have seen this all before most of you really don't have a clue just how far CCP has bent over backwards for us players.
I for one feel that i helped to build and shape this game just by taking part in it.
It will get fixed, you can bet your ass it will get fixed. Now stop being sheep and vote for the game we all love, trust me if you didn't love eve you would not be so angry now.
Why would anyone want hurt Eve!! She's so beautiful. Now be nice to her she loves you, you love her to don't you!
devvvvv aaallllltttt
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Koba Kyogen
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.07 05:07:00 -
[1997]
Not this year
Go **** yourself for the "softening" trend you've introduced to EVE
I'd vote for Hello Kitty Adventure Island before this space turd
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.07 05:59:00 -
[1998]
Originally by: Vince Prince You got my vote for the European Games Award guys.
now the rest of you shame on you!! Look how you all jump on the band wagon.
I for one love Eve and look forward to more content from CCP. o4 player so i have seen this all before most of you really don't have a clue just how far CCP has bent over backwards for us players.
I for one feel that i helped to build and shape this game just by taking part in it.
It will get fixed, you can bet your ass it will get fixed. Now stop being sheep and vote for the game we all love, trust me if you didn't love eve you would not be so angry now.
Why would anyone want hurt Eve!! She's so beautiful. Now be nice to her she loves you, you love her to don't you!
Dev alt spotted, weighed, measured and found to be wanting.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:01:00 -
[1999]
I came back to eve a few weeks ago after being gone 7 months. I noticed rather odd changes. I will get to voting in a bit. Right now i am sitting at a jump bridge waiting for the other 25k players to take their turn so i can take my next turn.
However i think Eve was better real time like it was before instead of the turn based game it is now. It just takes forever to wait for all 20-50k players to take a turn so i can make my next move. Also some turns seem to have more "moves" than others. /sarcasm
At this rate Eve is going to be DUST. lol
BTW does anything work on this game anymore? 3 trys to make 1 post.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:01:00 -
[2000]
I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:43:00 -
[2001]
Originally by: Ji Sama I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
hope you enjoy it
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:52:00 -
[2002]
Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
Originally by: Ji Sama I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
hope you enjoy it
Oh, I am :)
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:20:00 -
[2003]
You still have my subscription but for voting in stuff like this you need to start showing your current customer base some commitment to excellence. -----------------------------
>>where the frack is my ship?<< |
Kami Rikiushi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:35:00 -
[2004]
Originally by: Ji Sama I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
If you really want to throw away money, you can also just give it to me, i'll promise i'll make as good use to it as ccp has been doing...
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:39:00 -
[2005]
Originally by: Kami Rikiushi
Originally by: Ji Sama I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
If you really want to throw away money, you can also just give it to me, i'll promise i'll make as good use to it as ccp has been doing...
whats 135 euros per month these days?
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.07 08:03:00 -
[2006]
Edited by: Hemp Invader on 07/08/2010 08:04:34
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kami Rikiushi
Originally by: Ji Sama I also love EVE, and have voted a second time!
EVE WE LOVE YOU! AND TO COMPENSATE FOR ALL THE WHINING EMOS, I HAVE JUST OPENED MY 9th ACCOUNT!
If you really want to throw away money, you can also just give it to me, i'll promise i'll make as good use to it as ccp has been doing...
whats 135 euros per month these days?
I think it was a really good troll, aside from the first statement from the op, that is #1 in my book. I'm just sayin'!
Edit: How's the not so sticky version working out for you?
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.07 08:10:00 -
[2007]
Apparently pretty well, since they are directing people to post anything loosely related in this thread.
Guess all the bumping is really showing them.
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.07 09:27:00 -
[2008]
Originally by: Ranger 1 Apparently pretty well, since they are directing people to post anything loosely related in this thread.
Guess all the bumping is really showing them.
I almost missed your pretty ignorant poasting but then remembered you know as much about EVE as the roach I killed last night.
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Zoddo
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Posted - 2010.08.07 10:24:00 -
[2009]
Voting for EVE? Nice try.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.08.07 10:41:00 -
[2010]
Vote for EvE? As the game where the players are told they'll be on the backburner for 1.5 years while the end game does not work but the developer is busy with Space Sims? - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.07 12:04:00 -
[2011]
Originally by: achoura
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Because more subs means more money. What part of that don't you understand?
You do realise that selling someone something that you know doesn't work as advertised, on the basis of turnover instead of long-term custom, could almost be considered a scam :)
I think people are mostly miffed at the number of things that ccp breaks, then doesn't fix for 1-2 years (e.g. pirate entrapment array still doesn't work) rather than the things ccp put in game then left (complexes/mining etc.)
No it went completely over my head!
* Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. - CCP Ildoge
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:09:00 -
[2012]
CCP Adita & CCP Applebabe are not only terrible at thier jobs, but I personally think they are idiots.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1359784&page=17#491
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AtheistOfFail
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:33:00 -
[2013]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn CCP Adita & CCP Applebabe are not only terrible at thier jobs, but I personally think they are idiots.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1359784&page=17#491
To The Top Again. ~~~~~Signature Starts Here~~~~~
Need a 3rd party for a transaction? Check out my ad. |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:41:00 -
[2014]
Originally by: AtheistOfFail
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn CCP Adita & CCP Applebabe are not only terrible at thier jobs, but I personally think they are idiots.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1359784&page=17#491
To The Top Again.
I sense anger in you my young padawan!
"Fear leads to anger.. Anger leads to stress.. Stress leads to doobies.. Doobies lead to twinkies.."
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Nimbat
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:08:00 -
[2015]
Edited by: Nimbat on 07/08/2010 14:08:55 Edited by: Nimbat on 07/08/2010 14:08:06 I wish there was something more I could say
What a rotten way to die.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:29:00 -
[2016]
Originally by: Nimbat Edited by: Nimbat on 07/08/2010 14:08:55 Edited by: Nimbat on 07/08/2010 14:08:06 I wish there was something more I could say
What a rotten way to die.
What a shame :)
Dues Ex FTW!
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Nimbat
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:38:00 -
[2017]
Indeed!
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Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.07 15:48:00 -
[2018]
LOCKED, FOR RANTING.
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Janitor I
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:12:00 -
[2019]
This silence from CCP really hurt us ...
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Lt banaan
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:13:00 -
[2020]
if ccp is wondering why they hardly got votes then u daily prove it why, massive lag, server downtime is extremily high especialy since the server transfer. Its getting whorse and whorse every day.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:17:00 -
[2021]
I might take the time during this crash to go and vote. Seems like I have nothing else to do.
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:20:00 -
[2022]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 07/08/2010 17:22:10 Sure am glad the servers are in the best shape of their lives.
I mean, dying at peak time on a saturday, definitely strong signs of life there.
Also, we'd like some comment on why the patch for the SBU's is coming in "a few weeks".
ITS BEEN 9 MONTHS, and your SBU'S STILL CAN BE SHOT WHILE INVULNERABLE.
How much effort/coding can something like that possibly take, when its the basis for all your 0.0 warfare, and its broken, you'd think that it would be a priority to instantly fix that.
Not wait 9 months.
And still have it be that broken.
To Make this totally clear, so everybody can do it:
IF see an SBU, shoot it, they are currently (and have been since release) broken, to allow you to shoot them while invulnerable. The other timers in the system are useless, since it never needs to go that far, simply shoot the SBU, destroy it, and keep your systems. The people who dropped the SBU's need to guard it 23/7 for the 2 day timers to keep you from doing this, so in effect, there is NO WAY to lose your space currently, unless you "didn't want that space anyway".
EDIT: This is currently not an exploit by CCP, they reimburse the corp that dropped the SBU, but do NOT re-anchor it. They do not in any way punish the people shooting the SBU.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:22:00 -
[2023]
Post 2000 snipe I guess.. Has there been anything positive in this thread at all?
Replying to threads without reading them since 2008 |
Ramingo
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:25:00 -
[2024]
lol, the only good thing to have come out of this thread is a unification of players who otherwise can not agree on any other issues.
Great to see CCP crashed the server with yet another Sansha event and only 40 in local.
AWESOME CCP, WELL DONE! Take some of those GMs and make them fix bugs, lag and FACTION WAR, rather than wasting resources on unimportant stuff like that.
Can't believe how fail they are, reminds me of the last game I left - Warhammer Online. When EA Mythic fired Mark Jacobs, you guys didn't by any chance hire that ****** and make him your consultant?
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WCPistolPete
Gallente MacroIntel
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:25:00 -
[2025]
-1 vote due to server issues and borking of the addressbook. over 5000 ISK farmers all neatly arranged and tracked by their corps then the Tyrannis patch... {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson |
GiggMaster
Eikpyrnir
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:27:00 -
[2026]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
ITS BEEN 9 MONTHS, and your SBU'S STILL CAN BE SHOT WHILE INVULNERABLE.
Good idea .. lets post all known bugs here. []'s GiggMaster |
Ice Garfield
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:28:00 -
[2027]
Edited by: Ice Garfield on 07/08/2010 17:33:05 let me check the last 24h hours of eve ( and pretyt much how the game runs )
1)Killed a POS, Killmail Bugged, half ppl shootign it missing as well as damage 2) did a bigger gang ( 190 ppl) , LAG LAG LAG, Fleet Jumps thru a Gate 3 min Gridlaod for everyone, around 5-6 ppl DC/blackscreen pre jump 3)did a Small gang, went 40 Jumps thru emty space, anchord 1 bubble, Server crashes DB Issues,
Dear CCP this is the daily base how eve runs for the mayority of ppl living in 0.0 Space, if you would ever bother to actually log onto the REAL server it woudl be easely possible to realize things are a lot less shiny that all your demo videos and advertisment trys to suggest to ppl. Then asking your paying customours to beta test on a test server to start fixing bugs that shoudl have been welded out way within the development process before releasing them.
Do the guys in the suits at CCP HQ really thing this will bring them a " best game of the year" award with the current condition in which Eve is ?? if Yes they are either plain ignorant or well not very well blessed qith intelligence, if NO STOP Fxxxing TROLLING YOUR CUSTOMOURS.
Fix the Game before Adding new content, thereis lods of stuff that needs fixing sicne years, Faction Warefare, Big Fleet Lag Issues, No Cycling of Gunz in big fights, No Gridloads, Your ever broken and constantly crashign database, Invention /T2 production, bugged killmails, The "icantjump the gate but im at 0km " bug, and so on and so forth,
Eve will be Dust if u keep going down that way, what good is it then to attach a 3d shooter to soemthign thas Dead ? ow wait, i forgott abotu the guys in the suits who do the thinking....
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Edward Harris
Blue Sun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:33:00 -
[2028]
I really dont see what everyone is complaining about. The tranquility crashes give us more than enough time to vote!
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Viggen
Caldari The Lunatic Asylum Notorious Organization of Brothers
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:36:00 -
[2029]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service:
#17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users.
CCP, havent you just broken your own rules? A Sanshas event was started by you, then people pile into the system in question, then moments later the server dies
Eveboard Viggen |
Monsieur LeClerc
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:36:00 -
[2030]
Vote now! best game evar! no stability issues.
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Justin Bieber
Minmatar Asterisk Corporation
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:37:00 -
[2031]
This thread is just more of a joke now.
CCP has left EVE in a rotting state to move on to a doomed Made-in-China Dust project.
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Harrigan VonStudly
Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:42:00 -
[2032]
I'd rather vote pac man a better game atm
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BloodySpade
Amarr ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:42:00 -
[2033]
Originally by: Viggen
Originally by: CCP Navigator
As per rule 17 in the Terms of Service:
#17 You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users.
CCP, havent you just broken your own rules? A Sanshas event was started by you, then people pile into the system in question, then moments later the server dies
Problem is that this "You" is in no way related to CCP. This "You" is us, the dumb ****s still paying for FUBAR'd game and made fun of for that additionally.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:43:00 -
[2034]
Client having issues left and right, server lag when im among a dozen other players in a constellation, players are not logging in anymore, people are ****ed, sov is broken, T2 bpo's still in the game, some players perma-banned for not reporting exploits (moon goo) while others aren't (hi monkeysphere), PI is a joke, we are still waiting for the summer expansion... and CCP wants to be voted in for game of the year.
Should make this thread a sticky again.
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:43:00 -
[2035]
A Sansha Event
Really.....
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Delcu
Amarr Old Timers Guild Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:43:00 -
[2036]
ahh I get it now, it's a hostage act...
No votes! No Database!
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:54:00 -
[2037]
Bump, back up there big fella :)
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Harry Houdinni
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:55:00 -
[2038]
at this rate, no
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Beasty Blade
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:56:00 -
[2039]
Can't login to see if eve deserves a vote, from the login screen it looks like a no.
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Mastah Mazoku
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:57:00 -
[2040]
Holy **** Gordon! I told you not to toy with your crowbar.
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oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:58:00 -
[2041]
Edited by: oil on 07/08/2010 17:59:22 stop developement opf this dust that will fail, 3d chat and other stuff. have this manpower REWRITE the game. maybe the managers made comntracts with microsoft that are expensive to break but if you dont fix the game there will be no future for your jobs so bite the bullet.
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:08:00 -
[2042]
TBH i think its high time CCP answer its member base that has so strongly voiced there opinion about this game.
We have had 2 fail expansions that have total'y ruined the game to a point of were it is unplayable. and just a large chat engine.
For once if they were straight and honest and say yes fella's, we broke something with the last expansion and we never fixed it before pushing out the next one, were sorry we have let you down.
But instead they keep silent while there player base gets more and more annoyed, atm there is nothing to fight for in 0.0 because there is no point, we will just black screen and die.
PvP is whats makes this game and the epic fights we could have, but this isnt happening and from the sheer lack of any form of dev blog or answer to these issue it just shows us that you realy dont give a damn.
Yet we the player base try and help you with the mass testing, how many games can you say that that the member base would be happy with that, with no reward for it.
We also have all the extra server down time, you have issues, and you need to man up and admit it.
Take a long look at this thread and instead of some PR reply give us the cold hard truth about it, gives us the truth about whats gone wrong and then ask your self why?
We love to play this game thats why were so vocal about it, please CCP talk to us.
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:10:00 -
[2043]
Voted for eve.
Eve has always had its problems, just as any other game. Lag, server crashes, ecm, ...
... still the best game out there.
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Mhormal
Amarr THE F.E.A.R
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:13:00 -
[2044]
The good thing with this thread is it made me discover world of tanks , i never heard of it before , and its really really fun. Surprisingly i met my former eve ceo during one random battle and he was not the only eve player in there, seems many people on "summer break" are in fact playing this game. This situation reminds me of everquest and daoc, everyone was playing the games and staying cause there was no competition at all, complaints on forums were discarded as being from some vocal minority , now WOW came out and it was a subscription hemoragy for both games. I fear that it will happen to eve too either at kotor or maybe even black prophecy release if they turn out to be well polished fun games.
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Rex Hargrove
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:20:00 -
[2045]
I hear the Sansha Nation forgot to request a node reinforcement.
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Ivan Zhuk
Gallente 1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:23:00 -
[2046]
Edited by: Ivan Zhuk on 07/08/2010 18:23:23
Originally by: Rex Hargrove I hear the Sansha Nation forgot to request a node reinforcement.
Well when your a mutated evil race who wants to bring down the destruction upon all of eves capsuleers isnt the easiest way to not request node reinforcement and crash their universe into a spatial distortion? Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Vander Ballz
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:52:00 -
[2047]
geeez ccp, pull your heads out already.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:54:00 -
[2048]
Voted EVE Online for the number one game of the year :)
Thank you CCP for giving me the best game I have ever played!
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Bogota Lovejoy
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:58:00 -
[2049]
Sorry, no vote from me.
Learn to hire techies who can actually run a database.
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Alotta Fachina
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Posted - 2010.08.07 20:09:00 -
[2050]
I'm joining the "I'll vote in 18 months" crowd. This is a ridiculous mess that isn't getting any better.
CCP = Failure
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Typhena
Eikpyrnir
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Posted - 2010.08.07 20:43:00 -
[2051]
Nice article about all the mess caused by CCP .. oh .. and bump !
Gamevive --- Sig Under Construction |
Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.07 20:52:00 -
[2052]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 07/08/2010 20:52:59
I found it difficult to put a lot of faith in an article that ends with...
"Place orders for eve isk here, we will give you the best service and the lowest price, so come and get it here right now."
...but maybe thats just me.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Ralast
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Posted - 2010.08.07 21:05:00 -
[2053]
The data does not support me voting for EVE.
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Molish
Gallente Viper Core
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Posted - 2010.08.07 22:17:00 -
[2054]
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm
SWEET! My keyboard works again!
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Originally by: CCP Fallout We have Internet space ships. And that's serious business.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2010.08.07 22:33:00 -
[2055]
Tyrannis wasn't exactly the greatest piece of work ever done by CCP. You have the best online game--period--in my opinion, but if I'm somehow being asked to vote for this expansion and an adjective like "best" is attached to it, then I must politely decline. My sig don't fracking work. |
Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.07 22:41:00 -
[2056]
Edited by: Hexman on 07/08/2010 22:41:18 sup
anything new in this thread? any additional responses from the dev's that is not "we just noticed this thread, yo. we lol'd"?
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Paxxy
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:12:00 -
[2057]
Got my vote.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:31:00 -
[2058]
Hey ccp big fight in D2-HOS, send your server monkeys to collect data if you think it helps, tia.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.08.07 23:42:00 -
[2059]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition.
You mean we shall support CCP like you do support paying customers?
Thanks for pointing my nose at the competition, I'll have a look!
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Shirazz
Amarr NibbleTek RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.08.08 00:23:00 -
[2060]
That ccp can even suggest this isnt just stupid, its damned insulting.
You have just told your player base, your customers, that you couldnt give a damn what they think even though you set up a player council to communicate this with you.
Then you ask us to vote eve online top?
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SheIsNoLie
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Posted - 2010.08.08 01:48:00 -
[2061]
I sense page 69 coming soon. Awnser? No.
No Awards For Busted EndGame Gameplay
WOW example - Guys come do this raid! ALRIGHT! wait wtf, we all died, did anyone even see the boss move? - 'lag dude'
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.08 02:01:00 -
[2062]
Greatest thread since "The Saga of Krull Amarr."
Also, please fix the lag. It chaps my ass.
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Taphal
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Posted - 2010.08.08 02:40:00 -
[2063]
I'm afraid I can't dedicate any resources to voting for another 18 months.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.08 03:48:00 -
[2064]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Greatest thread since "The Saga of Krull Amarr."
Also, please fix the lag. It chaps my ass.
Aquaphor healing ointment protects rough, cracked dry ass skin due to extensive lag.
On topic: OK so we get fix in 18 months but you want a vote NOW?
EDIT: Cant believe this thread is still going strong.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.08 04:05:00 -
[2065]
Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 04:06:44
Originally by: Atticus Fynch EDIT: Cant believe this thread is still going strong.
Well what else do the fleet fight guys have to do? I mean it must be hard to watch the other 90% of eve go about their daily routines with little to no issues especially the high level members of their own alliance who are raking in the iskies from the general stability of nullsec due to no fleet fights.
Also: BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.08 06:57:00 -
[2066]
Whoops! Getting a little close to the bottom of page 1 there.
Who do you think is going to win the award?
Ye'llo? |
Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:05:00 -
[2067]
I'd rather vote for a new shiny (Arrowhead) than a 7 year old broken feature (Eve).
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:06:00 -
[2068]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Whoops! Getting a little close to the bottom of page 1 there.
Who do you think is going to win the award?
I don't know. I never registered to vote there or even looked at the nominations. Who cares anyways? It's just some random internats site wanting to drum up some attention to the overall EU gaming industry. Even if eve won all it would mean is another little "yo we at x internats site think eve is cool" blurb for the marketers to use.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:09:00 -
[2069]
Originally by: SupaKudoRio Whoops! Getting a little close to the bottom of page 1 there.
Who do you think is going to win the award?
Link?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:56:00 -
[2070]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch Link?
On the first page.
Might as well keep the discussion relatively on topic, eh?
Ye'llo? |
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:56:00 -
[2071]
Originally by: Maverick77
Quote: EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition.
Sorry but our logs show nothing, please accept our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
I think this one wins whorum award of the year! Here, have a cookie and grin while you eat and CCP gets empty votes!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.08 07:58:00 -
[2072]
Did they unpin the thread and hope it too would lag out?
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Serious Rikk
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.08 08:57:00 -
[2073]
Eve is broken, and definitly not deserving of any best game awards.
Start listening to what current players want rather than trying to get new players in.
No, you can't have my stuff _________________________
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.08 09:12:00 -
[2074]
Originally by: Serious Rikk Eve is borken, an definitly noot presirving off ani derp gam riwards.
Stop listining too wat curry layers wat rater tan triyng too geet neew layers in.
DERP HERP!
umadbro?
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SuperTight5
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Posted - 2010.08.08 09:34:00 -
[2075]
1. Fleet lag is terrible 2. Destroyed ships sometimes "respawn" and then not removed from the game. 3. PI is a clickfest and only suitable for bots 4. Things that relativaly easy to do you do for many times (I mean deep safes nerf). Also, it helped to fight lag, but alas.. 5. Macro miners are macro mining 6. Periodical database "issues"
This is definetely feature list of Best Online Game!
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R'tur
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Posted - 2010.08.08 10:24:00 -
[2076]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
still makes me giggle
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I look forward to it
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.08 10:56:00 -
[2077]
Originally by: Tarasina I'd rather vote for a new shiny (Arrowhead) than a 7 year old broken feature (Eve).
You understand CCP's philosophy perfectly
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2010.08.08 11:15:00 -
[2078]
Just posting again to applaud the CCP team. Refit my carrier earlier off a corp mate's ship and only half of my modules were actually online, half were showing offline and giving an error when I tried to online them (this module is already online, LOL WUT), and only jumping my ship to a station, removing the modules, and reattaching them to the ship fixed the problem. ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster.
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.08 12:36:00 -
[2079]
Hey big fella, getting kinda close to the bottom of page one again, I'll give you a hand up. : BUMP
CCP fix eve lag
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.08 12:48:00 -
[2080]
Edited by: Lrrp on 08/08/2010 12:49:37 Here's what I don't fully understand. Just what will be so captivating about WIS that after a week or two and the "Gee Whiz" factor wears off? Other than giving us a new way to spin in station I'm not sure 18 months more of concentrated effort on Incarna is only going to give us nothing more than pretty planets when we warp to a station. Will we be able to kill each other inside a station? Doesn't sound like it. Will we be able to prevent someone from boarding his ship? Will we be able to steal a docked ship? Doesn't sound like it either.
So what will be left after you've walked around, seen all the sights and bought a station T-shirt? Anything compelling? CCP might want to ask itself what makes a game great. What holds peoples interest? Why does a top down game like Starcraft become so much fun and people keep playing it for years? Is it new shiny or is it how the game is played? Eve is without a doubt a very playable game that has the capacity to hold our interests as shown by pre-Dominion game play. Unfortunately layers of new shiny were added and broke what is Eve's premier attraction.
Sometimes as a company you have to realize that things need to be scrapped, reshaped and go on from there. With Eve the player base knows what needs to be done and it is unfortunate that CCP does not have the clarity of sight to see what it's customers already know. CCP needs to understand that without revamping the game code itself, that adding ever more layers to a aging game engine is not going to improve anything. Spending time on another "improvement" like Incarna will attract some people but eventually word will spread that WIS has no real game play value. Then when the plebes actually try to jump in a ship and try to experience what Eve is really meant to be, they will abandon ship and go to a game that is not trying to be a fusion of many different things.
Eve is first and foremost about flying ships. If one cannot do that satisfactorily, then in the end Eve will spiral downward as other games are developed that will do it better. As in motorcycle riding and taking a spill, the question is not if but when. Fix your game CCP.
edit grammer
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Janitor I
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Posted - 2010.08.08 13:32:00 -
[2081]
bump
where are you CCP?
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.08 13:55:00 -
[2082]
Edited by: Zostera on 08/08/2010 13:56:22
Originally by: Lrrp Edited by: Lrrp on 08/08/2010 12:49:37 Just what will be so captivating about WIS that after a week or two and the "Gee Whiz" factor wears off?
Shadoo> Get in armor HACS guys.
Pathetic legion> Yeah on it, just walking down the corridor now, won't be long.
Shadoo> C'mon fgts hurry the **** up you ******* fail at EvE.
Pathetic legion> We need some crystals, just unboarding and walking to market, few minutes, market loading screen almost done, walking back, got em, walking back now.
Shadoo> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
That won't ever get old.....
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.08 15:22:00 -
[2083]
it looks as if they next issue has arrived! 74 destroyed Plex! TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:09:00 -
[2084]
Originally by: Zostera Edited by: Zostera on 08/08/2010 13:56:22
Originally by: Lrrp Edited by: Lrrp on 08/08/2010 12:49:37 Just what will be so captivating about WIS that after a week or two and the "Gee Whiz" factor wears off?
Shadoo> Get in armor HACS guys.
Pathetic legion> Yeah on it, just walking down the corridor now, won't be long.
Shadoo> C'mon fgts hurry the **** up you ******* fail at EvE.
Pathetic legion> We need some crystals, just unboarding and walking to market, few minutes, market loading screen almost done, walking back, got em, walking back now.
Shadoo> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
That won't ever get old.....
I sincerely hope that one will be able to turn the Incarna stuff off if one wants because if it becomes a prerequisite to being in station, things are going to get ugly when the hype wears off and people want to go back to playing internet spaceships.
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Phoenix Tribe Art of Defiance
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:17:00 -
[2085]
Rabble rabble rabble
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Scott Ryder
Amarr art of eve Gunmen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:19:00 -
[2086]
Originally by: Taphal I'm afraid I can't dedicate any resources to voting for another 18 months.
Same :)
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.08 16:57:00 -
[2087]
Posting on page 69
CCP said their vacation was for July, so I'd guess they only just started having full blown meetings about this with everyone back at the office, if they're even all back right now. I'd have hoped they learned by now that the next thing the company says will need to be well thought out and substantive, that anything less will result in a new wave of rage and further lower confidence.
Give em some time to get it right, and there's always the chance that it will be the answer we're all hoping for. ---
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.08 17:29:00 -
[2088]
Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 08/08/2010 17:30:40 Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 08/08/2010 17:29:44 edit: double posted edit edit: add "the forums are ******ed and ancient" to list of reasons why not to vote ---
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.08 17:36:00 -
[2089]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Give em some time to get it right......
I don't have 18+ months to wait around.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.08.08 18:58:00 -
[2090]
seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying... Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
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Jitaholic
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Posted - 2010.08.08 19:29:00 -
[2091]
Well, keep in mind, according to at least one GM, this thread represents a small vocal minority, and hence can be easily ignored by them. After all, they've got a company they've paid tens of thousands of dollars to telling them new shinies > finished content content. |
AccesiViale
Gallente The Artful Dodgers
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:04:00 -
[2092]
i and 16 other former eve players from my office have cast their vote...thanks for pointing out where to do so.
none of those votes were for eve. ccp really doesnt deserve it. children shouldnt be rewarded for bad behavior, especially when they expect their allowance. The sky was blue but there was no god. |
GiggMaster
Eikpyrnir
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:23:00 -
[2093]
Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want. []'s GiggMaster |
rootimus maximus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:26:00 -
[2094]
Originally by: GiggMaster I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
The problem is that what we think we deserve (a game that works properly) isn't the same as what CCP thinks we deserve for this thread (a swift kick up the butt and / or just banning us).
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:32:00 -
[2095]
Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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wr3cks
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:35:00 -
[2096]
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Hey, Jenious:
The problem is that they're not working on debugging.
That's what all the whinging is about!
WHING!
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GiggMaster
Eikpyrnir
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:39:00 -
[2097]
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Call this whatever you want but I will continue to be the "ingenuous" guy for the time being .. []'s GiggMaster |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:43:00 -
[2098]
Originally by: wr3cks
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14
Originally by: Tokp Lotas seems that ccp is winning this battle... since this post is dying...
I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Hey, Jenious:
The problem is that they're not working on debugging.
That's what all the whinging is about!
WHING!
And yet they are. Don't blame ccp if you can't actually read what they stated and simply emoraged off to the forums when you hit the phrase that said no other features would be worked on for 18 months.
Pure Jenious in these here parts I tells ya.
(and yes I know its actually spelled genius. Its the same thing as saying poast when the content of a post is made from troll droppings)
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:48:00 -
[2099]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Zostera Edited by: Zostera on 08/08/2010 13:56:22
Originally by: Lrrp Edited by: Lrrp on 08/08/2010 12:49:37 Just what will be so captivating about WIS that after a week or two and the "Gee Whiz" factor wears off?
Shadoo> Get in armor HACS guys.
Pathetic legion> Yeah on it, just walking down the corridor now, won't be long.
Shadoo> C'mon fgts hurry the **** up you ******* fail at EvE.
Pathetic legion> We need some crystals, just unboarding and walking to market, few minutes, market loading screen almost done, walking back, got em, walking back now.
Shadoo> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
That won't ever get old.....
I sincerely hope that one will be able to turn the Incarna stuff off if one wants because if it becomes a prerequisite to being in station, things are going to get ugly when the hype wears off and people want to go back to playing internet spaceships.
This. Can easily be a total game breaker for some if not a lot of people.
On the other hand...we could finally put our livestock, janitors and exotic dancers to good use. And just imagine what we'll be able to do with snowballs!
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Taphal
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Posted - 2010.08.08 20:49:00 -
[2100]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: wr3cks
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 08/08/2010 20:32:42
Originally by: GiggMaster Edited by: GiggMaster on 08/08/2010 20:25:14 I will keep bumping this thread for the time being until CCP give us what we want.
Ohhhh! So thats the plan!
You say endless whinging can accelerate the process of debugging code? Whodathunkit?!
I salute your ingenuity. It's pure Jenious. o7
Hey, Jenious:
The problem is that they're not working on debugging.
That's what all the whinging is about!
WHING!
And yet they are. Don't blame ccp if you can't actually read what they stated and simply emoraged off to the forums when you hit the phrase that said no other features would be worked on for 18 months.
Pure Jenious in these here parts I tells ya.
(and yes I know its actually spelled genius. Its the same thing as saying poast when the content of a post is made from troll droppings)
The logs show no evidence of debugging.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.08 21:19:00 -
[2101]
Originally by: Taphal The logs show no evidence of debugging.
EVE has logs?
I'm calling you out... troll!
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.08 21:58:00 -
[2102]
this thread is attracting so many players to Eve its not even funny.
People are coming in here claiming they are voting for games they don't even play just to spite CCP.
But they still pay for Eve. You could make a 10,000 character postnaught and it couldn't speak louder than that.
A game would have to be ****ing incredible for people to pay money just to talk **** on it. This is clearly a signature. |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:06:00 -
[2103]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
But they still pay for Eve.
Originally by: Dzajic
I'm so sorry CCP, but I already canceled my sub, so its not fair to vote for game I won't play for next 18 months.
Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I voted with my wallet, all three of my subscriptions are canceled. Just waiting now for them to run out of subscription time.
Originally by: Malcanis
And before you ask, I have cancelled all 3 of my accounts.
Not anymore.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:09:00 -
[2104]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Cipher Jones
But they still pay for Eve.
Originally by: Dzajic
I'm so sorry CCP, but I already canceled my sub, so its not fair to vote for game I won't play for next 18 months.
Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I voted with my wallet, all three of my subscriptions are canceled. Just waiting now for them to run out of subscription time.
Originally by: Malcanis
And before you ask, I have cancelled all 3 of my accounts.
Not anymore.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility More. This is clearly a signature. |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:11:00 -
[2105]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Cipher Jones
But they still pay for Eve.
Originally by: Dzajic
I'm so sorry CCP, but I already canceled my sub, so its not fair to vote for game I won't play for next 18 months.
Originally by: Gypsy RoseLee
I voted with my wallet, all three of my subscriptions are canceled. Just waiting now for them to run out of subscription time.
Originally by: Malcanis
And before you ask, I have cancelled all 3 of my accounts.
Not anymore.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility More.
http://www.massively.com/2008/01/22/world-of-warcraft-hits-10-million-players/ Even more.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:15:00 -
[2106]
Originally by: Sajad
http://www.massively.com/2008/01/22/world-of-warcraft-hits-10-million-players/ Even more.
What did that have to do with your previous post, and the reply to that ? ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:33:00 -
[2107]
Originally by: Ressiv
What did that have to do with your previous post, and the reply to that ?
You should try reading the posts.
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Bro Diddley
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:35:00 -
[2108]
BUMPING AN EPIC TROLL THREAD, WELL DONE ZYMURGIST. WHAT A JOKER. ~ fk you |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:36:00 -
[2109]
Originally by: Bro Diddley BUMPING AN EPIC TROLL THREAD, WELL DONE ZYMURGIST. WHAT A JOKER.
Here here.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:42:00 -
[2110]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Ressiv
What did that have to do with your previous post, and the reply to that ?
You should try reading the posts.
... you should try training reading comprehension afaik. You replied with WOW stats to a statement that this whole rage issue attracts people, after quoting a few people leaving and getting shown the user count.
But judging from other posts you just made, you are probably just a bad troll. ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:47:00 -
[2111]
Originally by: Ressiv
you should try training reading comprehension
You've been playing too much Eve. Try going outside once in a while.
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Ripperljohn
Caldari Ordo Mercuia
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:51:00 -
[2112]
Originally by: Bro Diddley BUMPING AN EPIC TROLL THREAD, WELL DONE ZYMURGIST. WHAT A JOKER.
there's some font size 6 in my pants, too
RITALIN! RITALIN! |
Hans Geering
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:06:00 -
[2113]
So errr.... are we winning?
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Taphal
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:08:00 -
[2114]
Originally by: Hans Geering So errr.... are we winning?
Who's "we"? Though, I suspect the answer is no in any case.
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Ivanna Nuke
Gallente Daralux Chaos Hegemony
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:23:00 -
[2115]
By reading this post you agreed to donate all your stuffz to me in-game.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:27:00 -
[2116]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Ressiv
you should try training reading comprehension
You've been playing too much Eve. Try going outside once in a while.
VERY intelligent reply, to the point, in depth, and covering all possible angles.
========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:55:00 -
[2117]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility More.
Actually I see that the subscriber base hasn't really grown that much if at all. And during the past year, it hasn't reached the number of players it reached at least 5-6 months ago.
So the new features haven't really attracted many long-term players. yet their lack of attention to fixing broken stuff is annoying the ones they do have.
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:47:00 -
[2118]
Originally by: Hexman
Originally by: Cipher Jones
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility More.
Actually I see that the subscriber base hasn't really grown that much if at all. And during the past year, it hasn't reached the number of players it reached at least 5-6 months ago.
So the new features haven't really attracted many long-term players. yet their lack of attention to fixing broken stuff is annoying the ones they do have.
And it's still far too early to see much fallout over this drama in server population stats. Wait a month or two, at least; accounts don't magically expire instantly.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:47:00 -
[2119]
Originally by: Zeba Pure Jenious in these here parts I tells ya.
(and yes I know its actually spelled genius. Its the same thing as saying poast when the content of a post is made from troll droppings)
It looses its punch when you explain it...
Well, that and makes you look arrogant.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Micheal Newmann
Minmatar Old Timers Guild Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:12:00 -
[2120]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:14:00 -
[2121]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
No thanks, pass.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:23:00 -
[2122]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Just had to QFT this.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:29:00 -
[2123]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Just had to QFT this.
QFT?
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:33:00 -
[2124]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Just had to QFT this.
QFT?
Quote For Truth.
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Pandorium9
Minmatar Pandorium Prime
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:58:00 -
[2125]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Just had to QFT this.
QFT?
QFT
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.08.09 02:21:00 -
[2126]
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Just had to QFT this.
it is a good one ;p
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:10:00 -
[2127]
Edited by: Zeba on 09/08/2010 03:10:50
Originally by: sue denim
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Just had to QFT this.
it is a good one ;p
Agreed.
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
Cold Dark Harsh Forums indeed..
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:12:00 -
[2128]
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.09 03:15:00 -
[2129]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Wat? Just like I can pull enjoyment from multiple sources in eve I can also pull amusement from multiple sources in real life.
Emo much or is the sandbox a little to big for you?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:01:00 -
[2130]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Agree QFT
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:07:00 -
[2131]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Wat? Just like I can pull enjoyment from multiple sources in eve I can also pull amusement from multiple sources in real life.
Emo much or is the sandbox a little to big for you?
Youre not to bright for a man who roleplays someone intelligent.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.09 04:16:00 -
[2132]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba
Oh man I so love this place. It never fails to amuse.
You dont get out much do you?
Wat? Just like I can pull enjoyment from multiple sources in eve I can also pull amusement from multiple sources in real life.
Emo much or is the sandbox a little to big for you?
Youre not to bright for a man who roleplays someone intelligent.
You're not too effective at making any sense either. So tell me, how are the forums being amusing to me = to me 'not getting out much'? Is there some sublime eve only social miscue I have commited? Have I stepped on the wrong alts toes yet again? Inform us oh wise forum member.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:12:00 -
[2133]
CCP if you fix the lag in a timely fashion, I'll bake you a delicious cake.
Any kind you want. Standing offer.
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Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:17:00 -
[2134]
Originally by: HarrietMiers CCP if you fix the lag in a timely fashion, I'll bake you a delicious cake.
Any kind you want. Standing offer.
Wait a minute...
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:36:00 -
[2135]
CCP you truly are ******ed
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Auden Sky
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:57:00 -
[2136]
Sorry, I'm having too much fun in the World of Tanks beta to be bothered to vote. lmk when the dominion lag is fixed, k?
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 09:48:00 -
[2137]
Originally by: Zeba You're not too effective at making any sense either. So tell me, how are the forums being amusing to me = to me 'not getting out much'? Is there some sublime eve only social miscue I have commited? Have I stepped on the wrong alts toes yet again? Inform us oh wise forum member.
You're trying to be bright and witty, but youre just not pulling it off.
Oh and the OP is trippin.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:49:00 -
[2138]
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:58:00 -
[2139]
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
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Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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Vicar2008
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:09:00 -
[2140]
Originally by: King Gore
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
CCP Dev Corpse = 0 isk
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:18:00 -
[2141]
to be game of the year u have to be innovative, progressive, ongoing development and active and have incerasing player numbers
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Poo Ka'hontas
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:24:00 -
[2142]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Zeba You're not too effective at making any sense either. So tell me, how are the forums being amusing to me = to me 'not getting out much'? Is there some sublime eve only social miscue I have commited? Have I stepped on the wrong alts toes yet again? Inform us oh wise forum member.
You're trying to be bright and witty, but youre just not pulling it off.
You do see this backfiring at you, dont you? If you percieve it as bright and witty, then it is just that.. or, if you percieve as bright and witty, but all others dont, then you are the dumbass
No win for you today!
Originally by: CCP Fallout
No. CCP Shadow should behave the same way forums do during downtime. Up, but maybe a little slow.
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:29:00 -
[2143]
I was sure this thread was at 73pages days ago, they been clearing it out a bit to stop it getting to 100? ----------------------
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:37:00 -
[2144]
Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid I was sure this thread was at 73pages days ago, they been clearing it out a bit to stop it getting to 100?
I thought it was....
OVER 9000!!!
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:41:00 -
[2145]
Originally by: Micheal Newmann
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
QFT
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:57:00 -
[2146]
Originally by: SIEGE RED You're serious?
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:46:00 -
[2147]
Are there any data about who IS winning this thing so far?
And seriously, CCP. How long are you going to wait to reply to this thread in some sort of reasonable fashion? Make Nathan do it. --
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Inturist
FSB-ALFA RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:08:00 -
[2148]
Edited by: Inturist on 09/08/2010 14:08:54 2 things
1) Thanx CCP for a good laugh 2) Sorry , but no , i won't be voting for best online game , ur game is good , but how 71 pages said - it's broken . Fix Game - Get votes- simple as that .
thx
edit: some spelling stuff --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:32:00 -
[2149]
Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid I was sure this thread was at 73pages days ago, they been clearing it out a bit to stop it getting to 100?
They may try but I predict little or no success in that endeavor!
Look mom, I'm posting in a threadnaught!
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Lord Arrakis
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:39:00 -
[2150]
votes for Eve online Tyrannis +1
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:22:00 -
[2151]
Edited by: bitter vetiranarian on 09/08/2010 15:22:17 Just wanted to say that I finally tried PI the other day. It was fun to set it up... for about 5 minutes.
After millions spent and many many clicks I've made a grand total of 80k isk!
Granted I'm doing it in highsec, and I would try it in 0.0 but since the last time I was in 0.0 I blackscreened when I undocked in a system with 5 alliance m8's in it I...hesitate...to go back.
Maybe it'd be more profitable in a wh, but with the extra logistics involved I don't think so.
I really can't see how eve online TYRANNIS can get a vote as best since the main feature of TYRANNIS (not eve online) is pretty damn lame.
Symantics? Maybe, but if the op asked to vote for Eve Online, not Eve Online : Tyrannis, I probably would have given it a vote.
*shrug*
Final note: I clicked reply on this thread and posted this reply IN ANOTHER THREAD.
Really my reply was put in another thread??? I mean come on. These forums are REALLY bad. CCP why don't you scrap them and use phpbb for the time being?
(and yes I was sure I was posting in this thread since I saw ziggy's happy face below the whole time )
p.s. snypah
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:25:00 -
[2152]
Originally by: Dograzor Uh uh you are not going to the second page...
Anyways, even after this huge threadnaught, are there any actual results?
Quote: The discussion focused on introducing new features versus improving existing ones. CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features.
The bolded word is all that matters.
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oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:41:00 -
[2153]
Edited by: oil on 09/08/2010 15:42:39 if you think you can expect them to do what their customers want you are mistaken. after 18 months they may or may not be ready to launch the incrana stuff. after that they spend another half year ironing out its worst bugs, then they adjust their manpower to the vampire thing and dust and maybe the one or other guy goes to fixing eve. so we rather look at 2 or 3 years til they might consider rewriting the old code.
actually we might say the main manpower of ccp atm works on wod and its side product incarna. not the other way round.
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Serax
Rise Rebel Resist
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:15:00 -
[2154]
Eve in it's current state is ****e, can't bring myself to vote for ****e.
Back to the awesome world of tanks for now and that's a beta I don't have to pay for!
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:16:00 -
[2155]
Originally by: oil Edited by: oil on 09/08/2010 15:42:39 if you think you can expect them to do what their customers want you are mistaken. after 18 months they may or may not be ready to launch the incrana stuff. after that they spend another half year ironing out its worst bugs, then they adjust their manpower to the vampire thing and dust and maybe the one or other guy goes to fixing eve. so we rather look at 2 or 3 years til they might consider rewriting the old code.
actually we might say the main manpower of ccp atm works on wod and its side product incarna. not the other way round.
Shanghai - Dust Newcastle - Dust Iceland - EVE/Incarna Whitewolf - WoD
I may be incorrect but CCP have got several projects running and they're independent of eachother. As far as I know the only way they overlap is WoD and Incarna. Incarna is a test for the WoD engine and it'd better be DX10/11 or else it's going to be the biggest waste of money ever, because they've been working on it since 2003-4.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:27:00 -
[2156]
w0rmy has been some weird bitter delusional fanboy throughout this thread, what happened to you?
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:31:00 -
[2157]
Bump for great justice
still no word from CCP
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:22:00 -
[2158]
CCP didnt get the point when the gods made that 1 volcano erupt (im not even going to attempt to spell it).
CCP made the gods angry.
CCP refuses to fix (insert broken game mechanic here)
Gods will make Katla explode...
I don't think the gods are going to give you 18 months.
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Rohk Ard
Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:28:00 -
[2159]
Great news. I was in a 200+ fleet fight in providence and I was still getting more than 6 fps. I took my computer for repair and was assured that it was working correctly. I then did a CCP.COM ping test and was under 35m/s. Now I was very concerned, what could be the problem. rest assured I then logged in and was delighted to find 38 in system but that the lag had been restored.
Please do not spend great sums of money on high spec machines or ISP's if you experience the same random anomoly. Take a short break, make a drink and log back in and you too will find the lag has been restored. If you find when travelling you dont get queued or a ravel warning, waiting for 3 minutes for the next system to load only to wake up in your home station please consider a petition for a bug. if its not happening to you the game is not playing the way CCP intended and they need to know.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.09 18:41:00 -
[2160]
"Our records show nothing"
Crappy Content Providers
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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John Cockcroft
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Posted - 2010.08.09 20:01:00 -
[2161]
tick, tock, tick, tock...
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.08.09 20:31:00 -
[2162]
No need to vote for world of tanks. They're on a 18month hiatus for Walking in Barracks
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Greniard
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Posted - 2010.08.09 21:09:00 -
[2163]
Moar posts to threadnought. This marketing backfiring is just too epic to let go.
Didn't vote for eve as the current development timeline is horrible with all the problems the game has. Then again didn't vote for anything else either as I'm such a fanboi...
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.09 22:02:00 -
[2164]
Originally by: Morphisat No need to vote for world of tanks. They're on a 18month hiatus for Walking in Barracks
+1 rep
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.09 22:50:00 -
[2165]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Crappy Content Providers
Cant Code Properly
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:49:00 -
[2166]
The fact that we still have ZERO response from CCP makes me bump
TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.10 00:15:00 -
[2167]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Crappy Content Providers
Cant Code Properly
Cant Communicate Proficiently
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Xarthaginian
Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 01:48:00 -
[2168]
Poastin so this doesnt end up on page 2.
Also cos I wanna know, If CCP's main concern and No 1 on the todo list is fixing Lag, then why is it so far down the list when it comes to allocating resources?
Telling customers 1 thing and the media another. Double standards in my eve tut tut.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.10 01:59:00 -
[2169]
Customer Care Problems
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d026
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 02:07:00 -
[2170]
Originally by: Sajad Customer Care Problems
this
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.10 02:32:00 -
[2171]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel The fact that we still have ZERO response from CCP makes me bump
They actually have responded (in this very thread.)
I'd like a legitimate response and evidence that someone other than a forum mod recognizes the precarious situation CCP finds itself in at moment.
Doubt that will happen though.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:00:00 -
[2172]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
I'd like a legitimate response and evidence that someone other than a forum mod recognizes the precarious situation CCP finds itself in at moment.
These cats recognize the situation
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:04:00 -
[2173]
D'awwwwwwwwwww.
Kitties!
What were we talking about again?
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:52:00 -
[2174]
There is one thing CCP can do to "fix" this.
* Release a devblog showing the NEW resource allocations.
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Gistatis Tribunus
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:00:00 -
[2175]
ISK sent vote cast
Time Flux Detected You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again. |
Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:13:00 -
[2176]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus * Release a devblog showing the NEW resource allocations.
I think you have a future in comedy with jokes like that.
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:27:00 -
[2177]
morning bump
ccp sucks
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Jade Knight07
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:45:00 -
[2178]
Apocrypha is awesome and I voted for CCP then. From this I know CCP can do great things. Dominion, as we all know started the serious issues. Tyrannisà I like the concept, bit disappointed with its current iteration (the Click fest, the pins, how things are laid out on planets {tbh, I have no idea how dust is supposed to work with this current system)). Incarna, I am looking forward to what this could bring to EVE. Dust I am disappointed it wont be released on the PCà Kinda feels like a kick in the teeth.
I also, in good conscience, cannot Vote for EVE right now.
To be fair, CCP posted extensive responses in the forums informing everyone that they are working on many of the major issuesà Lag for instance. The mass testing is going on and I believe they are working hard to resolve this ASAP.
I hope this thread is thoroughly read by all at CCP. Like in statistics finding a small pool of the population is interviewed and their responses are applied to the whole of a demography. Given the overwhelming number of responses and that they, pretty much, all say the same thingà "Fix EVE," CCP, you should realize this sentiment and its percentages is a good reflection of the whole.
To all the people who read this and have posted here I encourage you to head over to the Assembly Hall section of the forums and find the [Proposal] CCP, commit to excellence. No Feature Left behind Thread, Cast your support by clicking the thumbs up box when replying. You donÆt even need to put anything else in your post.
/My two cents, hope all this gets noticed.
** Fake edit I would link the above proposal thread but I don't know how to.
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Kandarus
Minmatar Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 06:16:00 -
[2179]
Originally by: John ****croft tick, tock, tick, tock...
Update those resumes people, possible tough times ahead ... But in all seriousness. If I told my boss, "Yeah, I'll have that to you in 18 months." You bet your assets I'd better have that resume ready too!
Can we please have a daily/weekly/monthly dev blog on what's going on? Something. Anything! WTH?
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enterprisePSI
Gallente Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2010.08.10 06:45:00 -
[2180]
Cannot Control Pennis
Tears, or the titan dies!
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:19:00 -
[2181]
Cant Compensate Plex
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WhiteSavage
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 08:45:00 -
[2182]
1. When my titan blew up it died, but when i killed his it appeared in a system nearby un-piloted...
2. Ships entering system appear in space and can be shot at/destroyed/podded but cannot move/log-off/react
3. Stealth Bombers turn epic slug-fests into annoying lagbombs. Many a Time i've warped away before the bombs hit and then exploded mid-warp. Yesterday I lost the same pod twice in 2 separate systems. One to bombs the second to an interceptor?
4. CCP introduces feature where stupid people can buy plex and lose them thereby giving CCP free money. Customer Care
5. Enemy drops SBU's, we kill them, CCP puts them back because "game is broken"
6. Delectably Horrible new sov mechanics mean that an attacking force has to win 6 battles in a row during the enemies strongest timezone. If they lose the last battle or cannot scramble enough pilots to blob said system, they have to start from square 1.
7. Dominion changes made northern moons incredibly valuable and southern moons dirt in comparison...
hmm
8. Everything is half finished. - Bounty System - PI - Infra Hubs - UI - SBU's have never worked properly - To accomplish anything demands a bigger blob - Macro ratters/miners make incredible loads of isk and imbalance the game in their favor to an extreme. Those who play EVE w/out macro's are the joke. - lag is horrible, mostly because it effects those jumping into a system more then those defending it.
I could go on and on and on...
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.10 09:51:00 -
[2183]
Originally by: enterprisePSI Cannot Control Pennis
was that supposed to be ***** or pennies?
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.08.10 09:56:00 -
[2184]
Originally by: WhiteSavage
8. Everything is half finished. - PI
It feels more like only 10% made it to the release. Wouldn't want to call it half finished.
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SikPuppy
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:20:00 -
[2185]
Edited by: SikPuppy on 10/08/2010 11:23:31 Ceased Completing Pheatures
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Manyar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:26:00 -
[2186]
I sure hope CCP doesn't think that PI is finished as it is now, because currently it's tedious as hell. But interpreting CCP's posts it doesn't look like we're getting a fix/improvement to PI until second life in space is out...
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:29:00 -
[2187]
Originally by: WhiteSavage 1. When my titan blew up it died, but when i killed his it appeared in a system nearby un-piloted...
2. Ships entering system appear in space and can be shot at/destroyed/podded but cannot move/log-off/react
3. Stealth Bombers turn epic slug-fests into annoying lagbombs. Many a Time i've warped away before the bombs hit and then exploded mid-warp. Yesterday I lost the same pod twice in 2 separate systems. One to bombs the second to an interceptor?
4. CCP introduces feature where stupid people can buy plex and lose them thereby giving CCP free money. Customer Care
5. Enemy drops SBU's, we kill them, CCP puts them back because "game is broken"
6. Delectably Horrible new sov mechanics mean that an attacking force has to win 6 battles in a row during the enemies strongest timezone. If they lose the last battle or cannot scramble enough pilots to blob said system, they have to start from square 1.
7. Dominion changes made northern moons incredibly valuable and southern moons dirt in comparison...
hmm
8. Everything is half finished. - Bounty System - PI - Infra Hubs - UI - SBU's have never worked properly - To accomplish anything demands a bigger blob - Macro ratters/miners make incredible loads of isk and imbalance the game in their favor to an extreme. Those who play EVE w/out macro's are the joke. - lag is horrible, mostly because it effects those jumping into a system more then those defending it.
I could go on and on and on...
All of what you said is true, I agree. It makes me ****ing sick. Is this a ****ing betatest of eve or some ****? they cant fix **** apparently....
WORLD OF TANKS!~
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.10 11:45:00 -
[2188]
Chronic Crashed Product
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ZenZorZar
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Posted - 2010.08.10 12:27:00 -
[2189]
Originally by: CCP Manifest
YEAH!
I like to read, although sometimes it hurts.
HTFU... Love & Hate can be very close sometimes.
you got yourself a awesome community, but dont count on them if you dont fix the game, the very support you had from them will turn into a even bigger mess then it allready is.
and ofc ... voted for anything else ... but EVE this time
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Frozean
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Posted - 2010.08.10 13:33:00 -
[2190]
Increase jita maximum capacity, remove lowsec + 0.0 , make pvp rooms, make havens and sanctums in high sec, C6 WH in high sec, and i will vote EVE game of the decade.
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Seith Silverstein
Something Rotten
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:15:00 -
[2191]
Originally by: Frozean Increase jita maximum capacity, remove lowsec + 0.0 , make pvp rooms, make havens and sanctums in high sec, C6 WH in high sec, and i will vote EVE game of the decade.
Not sure if troll.
Either way, do not want.
Originally by: CCP Soundwave I am literally the internet
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Vince Prince
Caldari Everyday Discipline Bondage Patrol
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:09:00 -
[2192]
Originally by: bitter vetiranarian
Originally by: Vince Prince You got my vote for the European Games Award guys.
now the rest of you shame on you!! Look how you all jump on the band wagon.
I for one love Eve and look forward to more content from CCP. o4 player so i have seen this all before most of you really don't have a clue just how far CCP has bent over backwards for us players.
I for one feel that i helped to build and shape this game just by taking part in it.
It will get fixed, you can bet your ass it will get fixed. Now stop being sheep and vote for the game we all love, trust me if you didn't love eve you would not be so angry now.
Why would anyone want hurt Eve!! She's so beautiful. Now be nice to her she loves you, you love her to don't you!
Devs shouldn't be allowed to post with alts.
Wish i was a Dev I could then get payed for playing this game, hell that would be my dream job. I stand by what i said. Vote for Eve don't let some other game beat Eve to the post, or are you all SHEEP!! If you don't vote you may as well go play Wow cos that's what you deserve you bunch of children, spitting your dummy's and chucking your toys out of the pram.
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Nimbat
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:26:00 -
[2193]
Cool Cum Phallos
Yeah.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:39:00 -
[2194]
The eloquent and lucid responses in this thread come from a community that cares quite a bit about a game that many have played for over half a decade.
CCP Zymurgist's [intentional?] trolling of this caring and sharing community demanded a response. Zymurgist's ignorant request for a pat on the back was so blatantly off-course, that a course correction was needed.
Any other action, such a voting for EVE in this European poll or playing the role of fan boi, does a disservice to both the poll's audience as well as CCP in terms of honest and open customer feedback.
I hope that CCP continues their recently renewed review of server-side and client-server performance challenges.
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance Art of Defiance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:43:00 -
[2195]
Bump for well deserved rage. CCP needs to roll back to Apocraypha.
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Thorair
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:19:00 -
[2196]
When 200 people are fighting in a "reinforced" node and you get 5 minutes of (unintended/unwanted) free MWD time because your mod won't turn off it might be time to fix some things.
Also when said fleet is going to engage and the first things said are "turn off auto repeat and ungroup your guns" in a last ditch attempt to battle against the server and ui lag...it might be time to fix some things.
Until then > no votey.
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:01:00 -
[2197]
Content Currently Poor
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Teir Dakon
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:01:00 -
[2198]
No Vote from me CCP, Please fix the lag !!
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:01:00 -
[2199]
Originally by: WhiteSavage 1. When my titan blew up it died, but when i killed his it appeared in a system nearby un-piloted...
2. Ships entering system appear in space and can be shot at/destroyed/podded but cannot move/log-off/react
3. Stealth Bombers turn epic slug-fests into annoying lagbombs. Many a Time i've warped away before the bombs hit and then exploded mid-warp. Yesterday I lost the same pod twice in 2 separate systems. One to bombs the second to an interceptor?
4. CCP introduces feature where stupid people can buy plex and lose them thereby giving CCP free money. Customer Care
5. Enemy drops SBU's, we kill them, CCP puts them back because "game is broken"
6. Delectably Horrible new sov mechanics mean that an attacking force has to win 6 battles in a row during the enemies strongest timezone. If they lose the last battle or cannot scramble enough pilots to blob said system, they have to start from square 1.
7. Dominion changes made northern moons incredibly valuable and southern moons dirt in comparison...
hmm
8. Everything is half finished. - Bounty System - PI - Infra Hubs - UI - SBU's have never worked properly - To accomplish anything demands a bigger blob - Macro ratters/miners make incredible loads of isk and imbalance the game in their favor to an extreme. Those who play EVE w/out macro's are the joke. - lag is horrible, mostly because it effects those jumping into a system more then those defending it.
I could go on and on and on...
Gunna go ahead and QFT.
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.10 18:31:00 -
[2200]
Had to log in 4 times to poast wtf.
But anyway to the people saying they dont get gate lag/no system loading bug im amazed. Last night was out on a roam which for a change was kinda fun and landed in empire prety far from home. So hit up high sec route back to close to home and hit ap and buggered off. Wanderd past the comp about 30 mins later to find myself ina no system load situation so sat down and watched it there was around 30 in local in a 0.8 system. Sat for 20-30 mins before i got hacked off and relogged to finish my trip.
So to those who are screaming omg stfu the game is fine i ask you. Is YOUR game simply undock hit belt mine dock or undock hit mish dock? As i experiance it just moving around a lot (was a long roam couple hrs at least with lots of system jumping) is what murders you.
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.08.10 19:48:00 -
[2201]
Fix not only the lag, but also some of the clearly unfinished content that you appear to no longer care about! Or better yet, rather than releasing things that are only half or a third finished (PI?), why not try to make it more like you advertised before you relese it (i.e. finished).
Oh, and *bump* as it was one from the bottom of the first page.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:05:00 -
[2202]
Hey CCP. Your game is broken. How about you fix it before asking us to do your publicity for you. Now I know that no real CCP people will ever read this thread - because you do not care about your player base and have settled into a cycle of only listening to the yes men in your ranks and rationalising away any dissenters Hencewith I am comfortable posting the following:
EVE Online is F U C K I N G BROKEN Fix it before you do anything else God Dammit your company is ******ed
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AccesiViale
Gallente The Artful Dodgers
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:13:00 -
[2203]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 Hey CCP. Your game is broken. How about you fix it before asking us to do your publicity for you. Now I know that no real CCP people will ever read this thread - because you do not care about your player base and have settled into a cycle of only listening to the yes men in your ranks and rationalising away any dissenters Hencewith I am comfortable posting the following:
EVE Online is F U C K I N G BROKEN Fix it before you do anything else God Dammit your company is ******ed
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:22:00 -
[2204]
Originally by: WhiteSavage
- SBU's have never worked properly
Lag or no lag, this here alone is game breaking for many people.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:35:00 -
[2205]
The SBU's are the icing on the cake as I see it.
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Tyremis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:57:00 -
[2206]
ouch I would have thought the lag would be taken care of. I just wasted 15bux. Won't make that mistake again.
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Manyar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.10 20:59:00 -
[2207]
I'm starting to feel that whole EVE playerbase is stuck in a limbo of eternal beta. With the exception that pretty much nothing gets fixed. Oh and we pay for this. But i guess it could be worse, at least the servers are stable... Oh wait.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.10 21:18:00 -
[2208]
So this award ceremony takes place on August 14th. What if CCP wins the best Online Game? What then?
Do more unsuspecting punters spend their coin to keep CCP executives, investors and employees in Ferraris (or new Snow Cats) whilst those addicted to the game live with CCPs bumbling efforts to keep the masses sated?
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Zostera
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.10 21:42:00 -
[2209]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 Hey CCP. Your game is broken. How about you fix it before asking us to do your publicity for you. Now I know that no real CCP people will ever read this thread - because you do not care about your player base and have settled into a cycle of only listening to the yes men in your ranks and rationalising away any dissenters Hencewith I am comfortable posting the following:
EVE Online is ****ING BROKEN Fix it before you do anything else God Dammit your company is ******ed
Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist
Please do not evade the issue Zymurgist.
Is that really the best response you can come up with....
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.08.10 22:00:00 -
[2210]
Hey guess what... the systems in my little part of 0.0 are up **** creek again! This time though I wont bother trying to PVP or PVE, can't afford to keep losing ships due to inactive modules, non responsive commands and well basically a **** server.
Keep up the good work CCP, you rock.
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.10 23:10:00 -
[2211]
Originally by: Isten Baba The PLEX threads are threatening to overshadow the much more important issues in this thread. We can't let this happen!
Hence: bump
Woo its the EVE version of bumfights : whinefights!
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Namira Sable
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.08.10 23:15:00 -
[2212]
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara So this award ceremony takes place on August 14th. What if CCP wins the best Online Game? What then?
Do more unsuspecting punters spend their coin to keep CCP executives, investors and employees in Ferraris (or new Snow Cats) whilst those addicted to the game live with CCPs bumbling efforts to keep the masses sated?
I have a feeling they will win. The competition doesn't have the player volume Eve has. would make for an interesting discussion.
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.08.10 23:38:00 -
[2213]
Originally by: Namira Sable
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara So this award ceremony takes place on August 14th. What if CCP wins the best Online Game? What then?
Do more unsuspecting punters spend their coin to keep CCP executives, investors and employees in Ferraris (or new Snow Cats) whilst those addicted to the game live with CCPs bumbling efforts to keep the masses sated?
I have a feeling they will win. The competition doesn't have the player volume Eve has. would make for an interesting discussion.
Yah it was a pretty terribly mix, but bf 1943 is a great game and a worthy contender, curious as to why they picked those games :|
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Me Stinks
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Posted - 2010.08.11 00:37:00 -
[2214]
Time for a bump.
CCP fix your game and start communicating with your paying customers.
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Norantio
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 02:43:00 -
[2215]
Can't wait for the award results to come out, go perfect dark!
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.11 03:28:00 -
[2216]
About one more day left. Get your votes against EVE in!
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devildog215
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Posted - 2010.08.11 03:31:00 -
[2217]
Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.11 03:41:00 -
[2218]
Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
Let's channel our votes into BF1943. CCP is more likely to lose if we all work together.
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Sha Dar
eXceeded
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Posted - 2010.08.11 05:20:00 -
[2219]
Originally by: Sajad Let's channel our votes into BF1943. CCP is more likely to lose if we all work together.
Bit late for that to work...
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Agenta Xeronn
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:01:00 -
[2220]
bump
ccp saaay something
and fire ur useless PR and beancounters
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altinateee
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:11:00 -
[2221]
*waiting for someone at CCP PR to press self destruct button (lock thread)*
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:11:00 -
[2222]
Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
*takes bait*
Answer to what?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:37:00 -
[2223]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
*takes bait*
Answer to what?
Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?" Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?" Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?" Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:55:00 -
[2224]
*reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?"
The vast majority of the game is working just dandy and with the constant increase in overall subscriptions it seems the playerbase agrees that eve is one of the best sandbox space based mmos evah. That they don't arse themselves to vote on some obscure marketing site is just the nature of the playerbase.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?"
2000 supporting votes minus the supporting alts of course. Then there is this little thing about having nearly 400k active subs but a thread can only get 2000 into it? Seems a rather small number to shape the destiny of an entire game that is so much more than fleet fights online.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Pffft. There have only been three real threadnaughts in the entire history of the forums. Number one was the t20 hilarity. Nothing will ever top that. Ever. Number two was the nano nerf. So many angry vaga and typhoon owners with multi billion isk at the time full hg snake implants with lulz exspensive polys and faction nanos. Sooooooo much rage. Number three(and the best imho) was the proposed mothership changes that included letting them dock. CCP troll best troll is all I can say about that lulz.
Do you need any moar answers?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:58:00 -
[2225]
Edited by: Super Whopper on 11/08/2010 07:00:07
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
*takes bait*
Answer to what?
Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?" Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?" Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?" Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Now only if you knew as much about EVE as CCP does, after all it takes a lot of calculating, counting and spreadsheet viewing to come up with
Quote: It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.
And more votes for BF1943. My voting pattern will PROBABLY turn back to EVE, like
Quote: CCP stated that once Incarna and planetary interaction with its link to Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement of existing features.
but I'll be too busy thinking about thinking about it. We're one of a kind CCPEE
Originally by: Zeba I know nothing about EVE
Why do you do this all the time Zeba? It's a good habit but making an utter fool of yourself does get old.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:58:00 -
[2226]
Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?"
The vast majority of the game is working just dandy and with the constant increase in overall subscriptions it seems the playerbase agrees that eve is one of the best sandbox space based mmos evah. That they don't arse themselves to vote on some obscure marketing site is just the nature of the playerbase.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?"
2000 supporting votes minus the supporting alts of course. Then there is this little thing about having nearly 400k active subs but a thread can only get 2000 into it? Seems a rather small number to shape the destiny of an entire game that is so much more than fleet fights online.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Pffft. There have only been three real threadnaughts in the entire history of the forums. Number one was the t20 hilarity. Nothing will ever top that. Ever. Number two was the nano nerf. So many angry vaga and typhoon owners with multi billion isk at the time full hg snake implants with lulz exspensive polys and faction nanos. Sooooooo much rage. Number three(and the best imho) was the proposed mothership changes that included letting them dock. CCP troll best troll is all I can say about that lulz.
Do you need any moar answers?
Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:15:00 -
[2227]
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
Thanking Zeba for it's poorly constructed trolling?
CCP won't give an answer and that's not what this is about, this is about new customers reading CCP don't give a damn about the game and will never fix it bar irrelevant nonsense like implants showing on KM's. Who gives a damn, CCP do, because it's nearly at the bottom of irrelevant **** but important things won't get fixed because they're at the top of the list of priorities for players.
Now if only Zeba was a hundredth as good at trolling as CCP it'd deserve respect.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:30:00 -
[2228]
Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 07:31:16
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
I don't need to be employed by ccp to reply in a way that probably mirrors what they are thinking. I don't have any special interests to support and so don't care about the eve forum lobbyist movement. Granted they are superb fun to knock about in a thread and the entire reason I regulary log into the forums. And I keep putting out my point of view because narrow minded gits keep squawking about how the overall game is total fail because their little corner of it is broken. Tit for tat tbh. Don't like it? Get a better offense. Originally by: Super Whopper Why do you do this all the time Zeba? It's a good habit but making an utter fool of yourself does get old.
Yes, because I care about your insignificant lobbyist alt opinion. Please get over yourself and find a new angle to attack ccp to get them to do your selfish bidding as the current campaign is just lulz ineffective. Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
Thanking Zeba for it's poorly constructed trolling?
CCP won't give an answer and that's not what this is about, this is about new customers reading CCP don't give a damn about the game and will never fix it bar irrelevant nonsense like implants showing on KM's. Who gives a damn, CCP do, because it's nearly at the bottom of irrelevant **** but important things won't get fixed because they're at the top of the list of priorities for players.
Actual new customers who have never been exposed to eve won't even realise that certain content is limited for years. There is literally that much stuff to do and experience in the game. Unless you happen to be one of the bitter vets who only care about a single narrow aspect of it.
Originally by: Super Whopper Now if only Zeba was a hundredth as good at trolling as CCP it'd deserve respect.
CCP is the best troll evah. I would never even think about trying to scale the heights they have reached. Well maybe if I eventually got a job with them but meh I'm too old for that crap. I just want to ruin peoples day be it forums or ingame.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:38:00 -
[2229]
Originally by: Zeba Someone teach me how to format my responses.
You're not ruining anyone's day, other than being irrelevant, you're not too old for that and you're damned good at it too. I do recommend going back to middle school and learning how to format text.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:39:00 -
[2230]
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 07:31:16
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
I don't need to be employed by ccp to reply in a way that probably mirrors what they are thinking. I don't have any special interests to support and so don't care about the eve forum lobbyist movement. Granted they are superb fun to knock about in a thread and the entire reason I regulary log into the forums. And I keep putting out my point of view because narrow minded gits keep squawking about how the overall game is total fail because their little corner of it is broken. Tit for tat tbh. Don't like it? Get a better offense.
The question is not whether I like what you say or not, but whether it's relevant to me or not. Your point of view is irrelevant, since I don't care about how probable it is that some player has the same opinion as an official CCP employee. I care about the official CCP "opinion".
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Zeba Someone teach me how to format my responses.
You're not ruining anyone's day, other than being irrelevant, you're not too old for that and you're damned good at it too. I do recommend going back to middle school and learning how to format text.
Nice changeup pitch on the ad hominem attack. o7 Care to keep yourself ontopic though so we can take you seriously?
Originally by: Ban Doga The question is not whether I like what you say or not, but whether it's relevant to me or not. Your point of view is irrelevant, since I don't care about how probable it is that some player has the same opinion as an official CCP employee. I care about the official CCP "opinion".
Well if all you care about is the 'official' ccp responce why did you even bother to respond to me? Contradict much?
So how about we all get back to trying to figure out how to make the day to day life of the average nullsec player a bit better? Like maybe seeding moar servers so when a blob forms it doesn't effect some poor guys trying to have some fun 20 jumps away?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Dyzzy Dyvyl
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?"
The vast majority of the game is working just dandy and with the constant increase in overall subscriptions it seems the playerbase agrees that eve is one of the best sandbox space based mmos evah. That they don't arse themselves to vote on some obscure marketing site is just the nature of the playerbase.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?"
2000 supporting votes minus the supporting alts of course. Then there is this little thing about having nearly 400k active subs but a thread can only get 2000 into it? Seems a rather small number to shape the destiny of an entire game that is so much more than fleet fights online.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Pffft. There have only been three real threadnaughts in the entire history of the forums. Number one was the t20 hilarity. Nothing will ever top that. Ever. Number two was the nano nerf. So many angry vaga and typhoon owners with multi billion isk at the time full hg snake implants with lulz exspensive polys and faction nanos. Sooooooo much rage. Number three(and the best imho) was the proposed mothership changes that included letting them dock. CCP troll best troll is all I can say about that lulz.
Do you need any moar answers?
now lets get an answer from some1 whos not a carebear.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dyzzy Dyvyl now lets get an answer from some1 whos not a carebear.
Looked me up on battleclinic I see. Working as intended.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: yourdoingitwrong on 11/08/2010 08:24:52 Eve 101 -> Eve is a PVP game -> Eve primarily advertises itself to include epic fleet battles as a primary component to the game. (not secondary) -> epic fleet fights were possible 2-3 patches ago. -> they broke it and our patience has finally worn thin.
see you on the 100th page Zebabear because this one is not going away. Thanks for the bump helping us out with this.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: yourdoingitwrong Eve 101 -> Eve is a PVP game -> Eve primarily advertises itself to include epic fleet battles as a primary component to the game. (not secondary) -> epic fleet fights were possible 2-3 patches ago. -> they broke it and our patience has finally worn thin.
see you on the 100th page Zebabear because this one is not going away.
I know. The longer this stays on the top of the gd the better. Though probably not for the reasons you think it should.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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PotNoodle Miner
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:31:00 -
[2236]
Copied from some stupid mmo site:
CCP: Would you like a cheese sandwich? Player: Yes, thank you. CCP: Here you go. Player: Thank you, but wait - where is the cheese? CCP: What? Your sandwich is working as intended. * * * * * CCP: Would you like a glass of milk to go with your sandwich? Player: Yes, thank you - and could I get some cheese too please? CCP: Here is your milk. What cheese? Player: Thank you for the milk. The cheese missing from the sandwich. CCP: We were not aware that cheese was missing from your sandwich. Player: But I told you... CCP: We will look into that. Player: Thank you. Hrmmm, this milk tastes funny. Has it expired? CCP: What? The milk is working as intended. * * * * * CCP: Would you like some chips? Player: I do not know. CCP: They're really good chips. Player: Okay, thank you. CCP: Here you go. Player: Thanks. Any word on the cheese for my sandwich or a fresh glass of milk? CCP: We just gave you chips, no? Player: Well, yes. Kind of. Did you eat some as well? The bag is almost empty. CCP: What? The chips are working as intended. * * * * * CCP: We forgot to give you a plate! Player: I guess. CCP: We're going to give you a plate! Player: What about the cheese, milk, and chips? CCP: After the plate! Player: When will that be? CCP: Probably in 18 months. Player: Um, what? CCP: It will be the best plate ever! Player: /wris
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Tyremis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:33:00 -
[2237]
+1 fix the lag. The longer CCP waits the more bad publicity they will get. It's sad but necessary to see the eve community blobbing CCP =(
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:34:00 -
[2238]
Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
The game is more than just blobby fights ill give you that. But the game is NOT fine and dandy beyond that please refer to my previous post regarding the system not loading in a 0.8 system with 30 or so people in it.
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:49:00 -
[2239]
Originally by: sue AGPlant
Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
The game is more than just blobby fights ill give you that. But the game is NOT fine and dandy beyond that please refer to my previous post regarding the system not loading in a 0.8 system with 30 or so people in it.
It sometimes takes me five attempts to log on before I finally see anything other than the beautiful black login screen, only to blacksceen when I undock and have to relog again. But Zebabear is right, all the random black screens with only 5 in system and the entire area empty, because everyone's playing WoT, means EVE is working as intended: pretending to work while getting you to pay for this product.
Zeba works for that third rate company CCP's hired to do their worthless propaganda?
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WaiKin Beldar
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 09:15:00 -
[2240]
Edited by: WaiKin Beldar on 11/08/2010 09:19:52
Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight
...blah,blah,blah.
Stopped reading from there.
Zeba's stats
Basically the answers YOU posted to the thread add nothing of value, and looking to your statistics it smells bad you have a "deep" knowledge of EVE being such a carebear. CCP's or 3rd party's alt spotted?
Disregarding the fact you oppose frontally with the general feeling here, please, do yourself a favour and stop trolling.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 09:39:00 -
[2241]
Edited by: Super Whopper on 11/08/2010 09:39:50
Originally by: WaiKin Beldar Stopped reading from there.
Zeba's stats
Basically the answers YOU posted to the thread add nothing of value, and looking to your statistics it smells bad you have a "deep" knowledge of EVE being such a carebear. CCP's or 3rd party's alt spotted?
Disregarding the fact you oppose frontally with the general feeling here, please, do yourself a favour and stop trolling.
Zebabear is really bad at trolling because it ignores the fact that most people in 0.0 have one or more characters in empire, meaning that alot of the 80% in empire belong to 0.0 doing research, missioning, hauling, manufacturing etc. because it doesn't suit its vision of EVE.
Now it's either that Ankh that got booted off the CSM (to everyone's delight), some other ignorant fool living the Many Men Online fantasy, a CCP alt or works for that PR company CCP've hired to do what they are so horrible at.
Page 75 snipe and I can't wait for the results.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.11 11:36:00 -
[2242]
Originally by: Super Whopper Page 75 snipe and I can't wait for the results.
Your optimism is ... funny
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:37:00 -
[2243]
I wonder if the surreal dichotomy of Eve not winning the award because Eve players voted for other games will have any effect on the blinder wearing crowd at CCP? I suspect not.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp The Commonwealth Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:41:00 -
[2244]
Had to post in this epic thread-naught, even if it's just to say "No"
Got to hand it to CCP they do have some very large bollox to ask their ignored customers for votes to get an award, which shows that they don't have much faith in their own creation if they need to ask for votes.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:51:00 -
[2245]
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 11/08/2010 12:51:48
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT Had to post in this epic thread-naught, even if it's just to say "No"
Got to hand it to CCP they do have some very large bollox to ask their ignored customers for votes to get an award, which shows that they don't have much faith in their own creation if they need to ask for votes.
In all fairness this is a common practice and I don't see an issue with it. It is just something companies do to bring things to the attention of the players and they can act on it how they like or ignore it. Most people aren't even aware these awards exist until someone asks them to vote on them and they don't blindly vote for the game they play, so it isn't much of an issue.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:59:00 -
[2246]
Originally by: IDieAlotInGateCamps
Originally by: Super Whopper Page 75 snipe and I can't wait for the results.
Your optimism is ... funny
Yeah, I know, I doubt Conan's going to win. I have no idea why I voted for that game but I correct the error by casting a vote for BF1943.
You'd have seen WoT win with a massive landslide if we could have voted for that
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Hexman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:04:00 -
[2247]
sup
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Desert Ice78
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:08:00 -
[2248]
So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??
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Djavo
Saiyans United death from above..
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:22:00 -
[2249]
2 Days until the awards, will it be Conan or BF1943!
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:38:00 -
[2250]
Originally by: Desert Ice78 So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??
After 75 pages of 0% noteworthy response you expect to hear anything? You...my friend, are an optimist!
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Mr Matanza
Minmatar Jnana Yoga Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:42:00 -
[2251]
+1 vote for AoC, the naked slave girls made me do it.
Ok, that was a lie, it was the lag... See you guys in 18 months.
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GavinGoodrich
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:54:00 -
[2252]
Gimmie...18 months and I'll vote yes.
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Alvis Seth
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Posted - 2010.08.11 15:27:00 -
[2253]
No, but thanks for asking. Next time fix lag.
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:05:00 -
[2254]
keep this thread going ... ccp fix the lag... stop sitting on your a**'s and do something about it.
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Altdolf
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Posted - 2010.08.11 17:58:00 -
[2255]
This thread is not going to make it to the epic 100 page mark...sadly.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:20:00 -
[2256]
Originally by: Super Whopper Edited by: Super Whopper on 11/08/2010 09:39:50
Originally by: WaiKin Beldar Stopped reading from there.
Zeba's stats
Basically the answers YOU posted to the thread add nothing of value, and looking to your statistics it smells bad you have a "deep" knowledge of EVE being such a carebear. CCP's or 3rd party's alt spotted?
Disregarding the fact you oppose frontally with the general feeling here, please, do yourself a favour and stop trolling.
Zebabear is really bad at trolling ....
He's gotten plenty of people in this thread worked up over things that he, or any reasonable human being, can't possibly believe. That's kind of the definition of some good trolling but hey, to each his own.
Go go gadget zeba!
Also: daily bump.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:43:00 -
[2257]
Troll keeping thread bumped with obvious trolling is funny. Blah.
In any case: CCP, restore EVE to the state of functionality that we saw during Apocrypha and you will have a loyal and happy playerbase who will gladly vote for you for any award presented. But if you do not, then you'll continue to have a playerbase who will actually go out of their way to try to get bad press for you.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:47:00 -
[2258]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Troll keeping thread bumped with obvious trolling is funny. Blah.
In any case: CCP, restore EVE to the state of functionality that we saw during Apocrypha and you will have a loyal and happy playerbase who will gladly vote for you for any award presented. But if you do not, then you'll continue to have a playerbase who will actually go out of their way to try to get bad press for you.
Protip: me pointing out that Zeba is trolling is not, in an of itself, a troll.
I think this lag is bull**** and CCP needs to make it their #1 priority. Catch up son.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:54:00 -
[2259]
bump Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
BuckStrider
Fleem Co
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:54:00 -
[2260]
I wish I could vote...But I don't live in Europe.
And CCP is like Obama...He offered 'Hope and Change' but just turned out to be more of the same.
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Profane Deception
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:25:00 -
[2261]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Desert Ice78 So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??
After 75 pages of 0% noteworthy response you expect to hear anything? You...my friend, are an optimist!
sad but true
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:28:00 -
[2262]
Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 20:28:54
Originally by: Profane Deception
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Desert Ice78 So Zymurgist......After 75 pages, I would love to hear how YOU think the voting campaign for the European Games Award is going??
After 75 pages of 0% noteworthy response you expect to hear anything? You...my friend, are an optimist!
sad but true
Well do you really expect the lord of the house to come out and address the rabble after they have coated the front lawn and door with hip deep piles of manure?
edit; BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.11 22:31:00 -
[2263]
Back up you go
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:09:00 -
[2264]
Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 11/08/2010 23:09:20 This Thread is just not gonna die xD. We'll be bumping this thing till Incarna/Dust comes out if it doesn't get deleted.
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Captain Shikaka
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:30:00 -
[2265]
no.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.11 23:49:00 -
[2266]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Protip: me pointing out that Zeba is trolling is not, in an of itself, a troll.
When using the word "protip", you should make sure you're at least correct. I wasn't talking about you, but the troll who's been bumping the thread for the last several days. ------------------------------------------------
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Bacon Slapper
Minmatar Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.12 00:02:00 -
[2267]
I was going to vote for tyrannis but then I discovered This game. It blows PI out of the water.
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AccesiViale
Gallente The Artful Dodgers
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Posted - 2010.08.12 00:06:00 -
[2268]
Originally by: Bacon Slapper I was going to vote for tyrannis but then I discovered This game. It blows PI out of the water.
Same mechanic Requires less clicking More fun Took less time and money to develop Is more complete and has way more polish
CCP should hire the person who made it The sky was blue but there was no god. |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.12 01:05:00 -
[2269]
Its great to see 75 pages of people voting for EvE online. Thank you all, and Good Night.
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Laedy
Bi-Polar Bears
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Posted - 2010.08.12 01:13:00 -
[2270]
Is the emo rage growing strong in you after reading all 75 pages of this megathread?
Take my quiz and find out!
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My EVE blog http://laedyinred.blogspot.com/
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Elite28
Caldari Victorious Bastards Evil-Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.12 02:07:00 -
[2271]
Edited by: Elite28 on 12/08/2010 02:25:46 lol some of you guys are really mean.. anyways bump
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 02:31:00 -
[2272]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Protip: me pointing out that Zeba is trolling is not, in an of itself, a troll.
When using the word "protip", you should make sure you're at least correct. I wasn't talking about you, but the troll who's been bumping the thread for the last several days.
Protip: your sig is awesome.
(and this lag is still bull****)
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ollobrains
5th Front enterprises Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.08.12 03:07:00 -
[2273]
biggest game wins
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.12 03:46:00 -
[2274]
protip: This was a very stupid thing to post after CCP's flurry of FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU to the playerbase, Zymurgist.
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Madam Squishy
Lyonesse.
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Posted - 2010.08.12 04:47:00 -
[2275]
Well, since CCP has given all the players a big FUUUUUUUUU, I will be giving CCP a big FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU because they can't take the pants off their head and fix the lag, and all the other stupid crap.
I'm glad I didn't vote, because CCP would not have gotten mine. YYRU YYUB ICUR YY4ME |
Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.08.12 04:49:00 -
[2276]
Edited by: Terrigal on 12/08/2010 04:49:54 What I dont get is this games designed for the long term player due to the nature of the skilling system (ie takes a year to be able to do anything useful) and it seems CCP is doing everything in its power lately to get rid of long term players.
I dont get it CCP, I just dont GET IT?
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.12 05:13:00 -
[2277]
Originally by: Laedy Is the emo rage growing strong in you after reading all 75 pages of this megathread?
Take my quiz and find out!
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LOYALTY PONY
You most likely have been playing EVE for quite some time. You have stuck by this game despite all the lag, bugs, imbalances and other crap CCP never get around to fixing. You may not always be happy with the way CCP prioritizes things, but you still think EVE is best MMO out there and there is nothing quite like it. You consist of the majority of players in EVE, somewhat unhappy with many things, yet you are committed to stay and hope things get better.
Glutton for punishment perhaps?
~ One million alts cant be wrong.
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Kleus Flek
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:06:00 -
[2278]
To the top! This threadnaught lives on!
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Dibbles II
Kathryn Janeway Looks Ridiculous
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:23:00 -
[2279]
bump
p.s. zeba you fail, you are too stupid for ccp to employ you
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:29:00 -
[2280]
hump
zeba`s a horrible troll aswell
no wonder ccp goes the way it does when it employes such crap ;))
ccp show some decency and answer this?
oh and kill all your beancounters!!!!
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King Gore
The Church of Sentcha
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:30:00 -
[2281]
Originally by: Nedefeg hump
zeba`s a horrible troll aswell
no wonder ccp goes the way it does when it employes such crap ;))
ccp show some decency and answer this?
oh and kill all your beancounters!!!! (in game)
FYP -
Originally by: Verone Happy Ishtar is extremely happy
Originally by: Kahn Souphanousinphone I thought I was going to live next to a powerful man, now I just live next to power.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.08.12 10:08:00 -
[2282]
Hump for great justice
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.12 10:45:00 -
[2283]
bump
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Angelina Durhake
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Posted - 2010.08.12 11:26:00 -
[2284]
The votes are closed, but we want solutions to game issues, CCP could listen the players one more time?
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:33:00 -
[2285]
Originally by: Zeba Well do you really expect the lord of the house to come out and address the rabble after they have coated the front lawn and door with hip deep piles of manure?
edit; BUMP!
The rabble spread high value fertilizer so The Lords lawn will look lush and green. The least he could do is thank them. ;)
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Leonard Delmordaine
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:47:00 -
[2286]
Ccc zyma what you dont have the guts to respond to respond to the player base? Or the other ccp clowns who are trying to be wise ass's about lag issues. Fix the damn lag.
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:50:00 -
[2287]
Originally by: Leonard Delmordaine Ccc zyma what you dont have the guts to respond to respond to the player base? Or the other ccp clowns who are trying to be wise ass's about lag issues. Fix the damn lag.
What do you want to hear? That CCP says "yeah we are working on it?" Mind you, they already said that.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:51:00 -
[2288]
Return of the thread that wouldn't die.
Filmed in Supermarionation.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Minchurra
Caldari Feudum Chalybis The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.12 13:05:00 -
[2289]
The NC has better damage control than this.
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.12 14:10:00 -
[2290]
i love ccp so much that i am willing to offer a bump to this thread! |
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Ervol Libra
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2010.08.12 14:46:00 -
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So why can't I vote for eveoffline, the game everyone plays during downtimes/serverupgrades/extreme lag
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Aelius
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.12 15:14:00 -
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Some things are fast as a bullet...
Putting that bullet into a gun takes a few seconds.
Putting the loaded gun on your forehead, a few more seconds.
Pulling the trigger... split seconds.
Making a thread like this is all the above, but the effects will last forever...
_________________________ CSM Candidate for 2011 (soon a pretty photoshop sig) _________________________
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Ham2000
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Posted - 2010.08.12 15:31:00 -
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Just had a look, took 14 minutes for CCP to respond to one thread, but 76 pages and nothing for days?
I think they want this to just go away.
Thing is I want to play eve, but just cant bring myself to login anymore, I know its going to be laggy, lvl4's are boring and 0.0 impossible to be in.....
C'mon what happened to CCP, they used to release patches every couple of weeks sorting small stuff all the time, get back to doing that.
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chevelle57
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Posted - 2010.08.12 16:41:00 -
[2294]
Screw you CCP fix the old broken content before you screw up the game with more click fests. -1 account for the next 18 months
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BuckStrider
Fleem Co
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Posted - 2010.08.12 17:34:00 -
[2295]
Looks like we have to wait till the 14th for the results.
Hope we loose!
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Steely Dhan
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.08.12 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Steely Dhan on 12/08/2010 17:52:30 Bumpage for stealthy UN-stickage.
what you sticky today will live on to eternity
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Mexbrutor
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Posted - 2010.08.12 17:54:00 -
[2297]
no u dont
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:06:00 -
[2298]
If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:12:00 -
[2299]
Voting has ended, I would be interested to see the results.
~ One million alts cant be wrong.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:24:30 Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:21:04
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
Strange. Adida's link goes to the forum rules of which number 12 is stated as thus: Originally by: Forum Rules Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or text or nonsensical posts that have no substance and are often designed to annoy other forum users. This includes ôfirstö and ôgo back to <another game>ö posts. Bumping posts in order to keep them near the top of the list is also prohibited. Petitions or "/signed" posts are a version of bumping and likewise are not permitted. Pyramid quoting is a response to a forum thread that contains the quotes of four or more previous posters, sometimes with additional spaces added unnecessarily. Posts of this nature are not conducive to community spirit and are unwelcome.
whilst your link goes to the rules about bumping ships. Par for the course in this thread tbh. Sooo many spin jockeys in here we might as well rename the thread 'FOX NEWS: Always fair and balanced'.
edit; BUMP!
re-edit; Ah I see what you are talking about now. The wiki link inside the forums rules links to ship bumping. Well lulz. Gogo automatic hotlink linkers.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:21:04
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
Strange. Adida's link goes to the forum rules of which number 12 is stated as thus: Originally by: Forum Rules Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or text or nonsensical posts that have no substance and are often designed to annoy other forum users. This includes ôfirstö and ôgo back to <another game>ö posts. Bumping posts in order to keep them near the top of the list is also prohibited. Petitions or "/signed" posts are a version of bumping and likewise are not permitted. Pyramid quoting is a response to a forum thread that contains the quotes of four or more previous posters, sometimes with additional spaces added unnecessarily. Posts of this nature are not conducive to community spirit and are unwelcome.
whilst your link goes to the rules about bumping ships. Par for the course in this thread tbh. Sooo many spin jockeys in here we might as well rename the thread 'FOX NEWS: Always fair and balanced'.
edit; BUMP!
Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:26:00 -
[2303]
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
No, we should ignore such inconsistencies. After all there are new features to be implemented.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:29:00 -
[2305]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 12/08/2010 18:29:59 I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible. Granted, there would be be slight - 10 to 30 second - module delay. But it was possible and quite epic.
We had a taste of pure awesomeness that is this game with minimal lag. It worked!
We want it back.
Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us our damn junk.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:30:00 -
[2306]
Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:31:57
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
No, we should ignore such inconsistencies. After all there are new features to be implemented.
True. The bumping link in the forum rules that goes to ship bumping is about as relevant to understanding rule 12 as fleet fights are to establishing and holding sov. Good call mate.
Originally by: HarrietMiers I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible. Granted, there would be be slight - 10 to 30 second - module delay. But it was possible and quite epic.
We had a taste of pure awesomeness that is this game with minimal lag. It worked!
We want it back.
Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us damn junk.
Well thank you captain obvious. Hell even I want fleet fights back so I can use all those tens and tens of billions in isk of cap skills and ships I sank into my combat alts right before dominion hit. But I'm not going to cut myself over it.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:32:00 -
[2307]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
No, we should ignore such inconsistencies. After all there are new features to be implemented.
True. The bumping link in the forum rules that goes to ship bumping is about as relevant to understanding rule 12 as fleet fights are to establishing and holding sov. Good call mate.
This is some of the best trolling I've seen on these forums Zeba. My hats off to you for consistency, creativity, and voracity.
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:35:00 -
[2308]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:37:00 -
[2309]
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
Crap I've got some catching up to do.
That is some SERIOUS trolling.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:40:00 -
[2310]
Originally by: HarrietMiers This is some of the best trolling I've seen on these forums Zeba. My hats off to you for consistency, creativity, and voracity.
Actually it has been some pretty good trolling going on in here. Hats off to the lobbyist alt army for continued excellence in political spin and an unending trudge to absolutely nowhere.
Originally by: HarrietMiers That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
Far far less than all the faceless and not so faceless fleet fight lobbyist alts I can assure you. And I claim victory because you can't even dispute me anymore. Just personal attack after personal attack. Hell the last few pages were totally lulz as you and the alt army continued to toss offtopic attacks at me when you saw me post in another thread and I continued to ignore you all in this one.
Feels so good to be wanted.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Hats off to the lobbyist alt army for continued excellence in political spin and an unending trudge to absolutely nowhere.
This is actually my main. I sold my 2003 toon when the lag became unacceptable and am bearing until they fix it. Feel free to hit me up in game for my old info if you'd like. I'd also love a chat with you. You seem like a chill brosef.
Originally by: Zeba ]Far far less than all the faceless and not so faceless fleet fight lobbyist alts I can assure you. And I claim victory because you can't even dispute me anymore. Just personal attack after personal attack. Hell the last few pages were totally lulz as you and the alt army continued to toss offtopic attacks at me when you saw me post in another thread and I continued to ignore you all in this one.
I'm not coming at you brah. I'm complimenting you working people up into a frenzy. No sarcasm. It's fun to watch a ::puppet master:: in his/her prime.
Originally by: Zeba Feels so good to be wanted.
I tell myself that everyday too.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:52:00 -
[2312]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Hats off to the lobbyist alt army for continued excellence in political spin and an unending trudge to absolutely nowhere.
This is actually my main. I sold my 2003 toon when the lag became unacceptable and am bearing until they fix it. Feel free to hit me up in game for my old info if you'd like. I'd also love a chat with you. You seem like a chill brosef.
Why thank you. I am a pretty chill brosef ingame as I never let the forum game leak into the real game. I'm too busy enjoying the endless amount of fun to be had with all the awesome stuff to do.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Far far less than all the faceless and not so faceless fleet fight lobbyist alts I can assure you. And I claim victory because you can't even dispute me anymore. Just personal attack after personal attack. Hell the last few pages were totally lulz as you and the alt army continued to toss offtopic attacks at me when you saw me post in another thread and I continued to ignore you all in this one.
I'm not coming at you brah. I'm complimenting you working people up into a frenzy. No sarcasm. It's fun to watch a ::puppet master:: in his/her prime.
Yeah my bad. I have a bad habit of putting in the word 'you' when I should be using 'they' or 'them' or some other group descriptive. And I'm not a puppet master I just like to trip up the players who go over the top on the forums into the realm of the emo. And noone can deny we have had a crapton of that in this thread.
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Zeba Feels so good to be wanted.
I tell myself that everyday too.
Positive reinforcement best reinforcment. Especially when they ask for you by name.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:56:00 -
[2313]
::brofist::
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:05:00 -
[2314]
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails there seems to be peanut butter on your nose lol
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:11:00 -
[2315]
Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 19:12:33
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
Crap I've got some catching up to do.
Better get to poastin then.
And neat link. Didn't realise you could do that with eve search.
edit; ffs keep forgeting to say BUMP!
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:45:00 -
[2316]
Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us |
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PCaBoo
noXCorp
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:48:00 -
[2317]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
maybe it's always been like this, but lately it seems like anything said against the propaganda machine is deemed trolling and moderated. If things don't pan out for you guys at CCP, maybe you can work for the Iranian or Chinese governments. ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:02:00 -
[2318]
Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
maybe it's always been like this, but lately it seems like anything said against the propaganda machine is deemed trolling and moderated. If things don't pan out for you guys at CCP, maybe you can work for the Iranian or Chinese governments.
Well they removed some of my replies too and I am supposedly considered to be part of the ccp propaganda machine. Tbh I'm pretty sure they(ccp) would not shed so much as a tear if I never posted in the forums again.(at least in this thread, maybe a few others ;p)
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Carebearingtonfieldville
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:21:00 -
[2319]
How many years have passed since WIS was coming "soon"?
CCP doesn't ever actually implement big things (WIS) or fix big things (lag).. not ever. They just say "lol we workin oon it comin' soon lolol"
Then they go "lol u guise fight eachother lol" (FW) then a couple years later "lol u guise wanna click the planets lol?" (PI) "lol buy an x-box looll we got somthin comin' soon"
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Bertie McBert
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:33:00 -
[2320]
The lack of any real response from CCP regarding the concerns raised by those not trolling in this thread makes me sad.
Voted for Conan btw.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:55:00 -
[2321]
Quote: I'm not coming at you brah. I'm complimenting you working people up into a frenzy. No sarcasm. It's fun to watch a ::puppet master:: in his/her prime.
yes, making crying people cry is an amazing skill. My hat is off tho the both of you. You're tighter than Bill Clinton and the Pope. This is clearly a signature. |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:00:00 -
[2322]
Originally by: Bertie McBert The lack of any real response from CCP regarding the concerns raised by those not trolling in this thread makes me sad.
Voted for Conan btw.
Go play it. This is clearly a signature. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:10:00 -
[2323]
Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 21:17:51
Originally by: HarrietMiers I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible.
I'm fairly certain ccp knows about the former ability to enjoy laggish free fleet fights as they were the ones who sweated their destiny balls off making it happen. Then Dominion came along and wrecked it to worse than it ever was and even moar annoyingly(for everyone including ccp) somehow it got wrecked so bad ccp still haven't figured out what the hell happened.
Originally by: HarrietMiers Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us our damn junk.
Here is the rub. I want ccp to fix fleet fight lag just as bad as anyone else. My sympathies go to everyone including myself who sank tens and tens of billions of isk into all the revelant cap skills and ships to outfit all my combat alts in shiney hotdrop style. Even had a few prospective offers to get into the nullsec game by joining one of the fw corps nullsec divisions so I was all happy and giddy to get started. Then Dominion hit and it all went up in a lag bomb. So yeah I too have lots of annoyance over all this stuff I was wanting to do suddenly getting yoinked out from under me. I can only imagine what it feels like for the ones who already were waist deep in it.
But really. Was it nessesary to highjack this and multiple other threads and turn them into a 'we can't fleet fight' rage fest? What does it accomplish? The needed coding revisions certainly are not going to get sped up on fixing it over pages and pages of rage. Plus noone can toss the 18 month misquote out over it because ccp has stated over and over they never stopped working on the fix for lag even with incarna and dust getting the lions share of the content creation devs(who by the way all suck at fixing lag) that won't work on other aspects of eve for that constantly tossed out 18 month snippet. Now besides fleet fight lag are there issues that need to be dealt with? Certainly. I will be one of the first to wag his finger in faction warfares general direction and give ccp a stern look about how the promised fleshing out never got past Soon.
But is faction warfare unplayably broken like fleet fights? Not at all. Granted the rr alts are annoying as is the lack of an official reason to undock and pew pew with the less than effective plexing mechanic but we still go out and have a ball every single day of the week. Same can be said for most other areas of eve. Do they need some lovin? Very much so. Cosmos is a prime example with its bpo rewards that for certain mods are fairly useless compared to named and t2 not to mention faction so noone really uses the content. But its still doable and gets you other rewards like fast stadings increases and some decent research agents so again it can wait for 18 months.
One can even surmise that the silver lining to the fleet fight thunderstorm of doom is that because there has been no ability to field sov destoying cap ship fleets that nullsec is more populated now than it ever was. So basically the lag let anyone with the corp skills and access to a hauler to setup shop and improve his system without fear of getting dropped by PL or the Goons or any nearby bored alliance just for the lulz. So now we have everyone all nice and cozy with plentiful outposts and cynojammers just waiting for lag to be fixed as they milk their upgrades for isk. Plus it should be waaaaaay more fun than if only the large previously established alliances had been able to pwn at will from day one locking everyone else out yet again.
So guys ask yourselves this about the contents of this thread: Was it worth it trying to burn your house down to spite the landlord?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Isten Baba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:24:14 Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:23:44
Lag is a symptom, not the disease. The essential problem is CCP (apparently) losing focus on EVE, and instead committing to FPS console stupidity and vampires.
I would understand if CP said "sorry, we screwed up, and we even though we are truly trying, we haven't yet found a soltion to lag". However, I need to know as a customer that (most) of my 30 euros a month (two subs) goes to EVE, and that they are fully committed to it. I am not paying to subsidise other games I will never play.
At the moment I seriously doubt that (PI was very poor, and there are just too many indications to the contrary), but I still hope that CCP will change its strategy.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:29:00 -
[2325]
Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 21:30:49
Originally by: Isten Baba Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:24:14 Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:23:44
Lag is a symptom, not the disease. The essential problem is CCP (apparently) losing focus on EVE, and instead committing to FPS console stupidity and vampires.
I would understand if CP said "sorry, we screwed up, and we even though we are truly trying, we haven't yet found a soltion to lag". However, I need to know as a customer that (most) of my 30 euros a month (two subs) goes to EVE, and that they are fully committed to it. I am not paying to subsidise other games I will never play.
At the moment I seriously doubt that (PI was very poor, and there are just too many indications to the contrary), but I still hope that CCP will change its strategy.
Apparently ccp are commiting 100% of the devs who can fix lag to fix lag and not sending said lag fixing devs off to make virtual clothes for incarna or map levels for dust. Not to mention trying to hire even moar devs so they can do even more stuff in a single development cycle. They also have a dedicated team working on pi unlike other areas of the game like fleshing out fw etc etc which will get their turn in 18 months. So your point is?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Isten Baba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 21:46:14
Originally by: Zeba Apparently ccp are commiting 100% of the devs who can fix lag to fix lag and not sending said lag fixing devs off to make virtual clothes for incarna or map levels for dust. Not to mention trying to hire even moar devs so they can do even more stuff in a single development cycle. They also have a dedicated team working on pi unlike other areas of the game like fleshing out fw etc etc which will get their turn in 18 months. So your point is?
My point? That I'm a paying customer who loves (the concept of) EVE, and who is very concerned with the direction CCP is taking: shiny new things and other games, rather than improving and expanding the already existing infrastructure. There many, many amazing things that could be done to the EVE universe, and yet I don't see that happening.
I voice my concern beause I still like the game too much to give up on it (ie. unsubscribe). The moment I stop posting will be the moment I don't care anymore. I hope it will not get to that.
Oh, and: 1) as I stated (didn't you read my post?), lag is not the main problem and I assume they are seriously working on it. 2) I have no negative opinion on Incarna in itself, even though I don't think I will be using it a lot. However, I am afraid (given a poor track record) that CCP will simply introduce it half-finished once again, and never truly use its full potential. Too many examples like that already.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.12 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Isten Baba My point? That I'm a paying customer who loves (the concept of) EVE, and who is very concerned with the direction CCP is taking: shiny new things and other games, rather than improving and expanding the already existing infrastructure. There many, many amazing things that could be done to the EVE universe, and yet I don't see that happening.
I voice my concern beause I still like the game too much to give up on it (ie. unsubscribe). The moment I stop posting will be the moment I don't care anymore. I hope it will not get to that.
Oh, and: 1) as I stated (didn't you read my post?), lag is not the main problem and I assume they are seriously working on it. 2) I have no negative opinion on Incarna in itself, even though I don't think I will be using it a lot. However, I am afraid (given a poor track record) that CCP will simply introduce it half-finished once again, and never truly use its full potential. Too many examples like that already.
Well thats your personal view and I wasn't trying to invalidate it. But the counter point is that if ccp had shelved incarna and dust for 18 months and instead worked on older content for us older players then we still would have gotten this epic lulz of a thread. Only with different whinges. Then there was the whole argument about ccp not focusing on completing a feature before it hits the live servers. Well they made a choice and went all out to make sure incarna and dust both ship as feature complete as possible at the expence of fleshing out playable older content that the the majority of new players won't use up for years anyways and they still can't win in the eyes of the forums. Thats simply the nature of a public gaming forum. The happy people are in the game playing the game and the unhappy people are on the forums playing the forums game. And whilst the dancers might change with the wind the actual dance never stops.
Care to dance?
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Alexander Knott
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.12 22:11:00 -
[2328]
So when is vacation time over anyway? Or is this "vacation" like alliance leaders always seem to take as they're losing all their space?
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Isten Baba
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Posted - 2010.08.12 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Isten Baba on 12/08/2010 22:13:08
Originally by: Zeba Well thats your personal view and I wasn't trying to invalidate it. But the counter point is that if ccp had shelved incarna and dust for 18 months and instead worked on older content for us older players then we still would have gotten this epic lulz of a thread. Only with different whinges. Then there was the whole argument about ccp not focusing on completing a feature before it hits the live servers. Well they made a choice and went all out to make sure incarna and dust both ship as feature complete as possible at the expence of fleshing out playable older content that the the majority of new players won't use up for years anyways and they still can't win in the eyes of the forums. Thats simply the nature of a public gaming forum. The happy people are in the game playing the game and the unhappy people are on the forums playing the forums game. And whilst the dancers might change with the wind the actual dance never stops.
Care to dance?
Im a lousy dancer, unfortunately (had ballroom classes for a couple of months. It wasn't pretty).
I'm never sure about the "unhappy=forum minority, happy=silent majority" argument. Even though there are some serial whiners, I suspect that the majority of posters on EVE forums are simply people who truly care, and who are overall very loyal to EVE. They might very well reflect the (silent) majority experience as well, but that's impossible to prove either way.
I personally don't like complaining, but am truly concerned (I'd love EVE to be around forever). I defended CCP in the PLEX threads, for example.
The problem is not any specific example, such as lag, but the cumulative signs that CCP are no longer committed to EVE in a way that will allow it to flourish. There seems to be a real disconnect between the community and CCP, and CCP seems to have a strategy that doesn't seem to support my hopes/wishes for EVE.
It's not a big thng in my life (EVE is only a tiny part of it), but I do hope that CCP will continue to develop and improve the kind of game I enjoy playing, and that they pick up on the expressed concerns from their customers.
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Desert Ice78
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Posted - 2010.08.12 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
Not quite the constructive response I was hoping for. Maybe I am an optimist...
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Teidor Auvehro
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Posted - 2010.08.12 23:24:00 -
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Helping to keep the thread on top. The longer it stays on the first page the chances are higher that somebody important at CCP actually sees and reacts to it.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.12 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Teidor Auvehro Helping to keep the thread on top. The longer it stays on the first page the chances are higher that somebody will start playing EvE right now.
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Taguchi Hiroko
Shady Oaks Retirement Home
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Posted - 2010.08.12 23:39:00 -
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lol, ccp troll best troll.
been playing starcraft 2 instead.
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Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
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Posted - 2010.08.12 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 12/08/2010 23:51:17 77 PAGES AND 160,000 VIEWS
If I go back and read all of it, will I see good things? We can only hope the PR department has at least GLANCED at all this?
Yes? No? Maybe?
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.13 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 12/08/2010 23:51:17 77 PAGES AND 160,000 VIEWS
If I go back and read all of it, will I see good things? We can only hope the PR department has at least GLANCED at all this?
Yes? No? Maybe?
You forgot probably, though that means no anyway.
Go Zeba GO, try to salvage the unsalvageable with your expert knowledge on EVE! A single loss and kill make you the greateststestestst EVE expert around and we're in awe of your knowledge in regards to bugs, lack of features and lag. Now if only rocks gave you km's.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.13 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
This demonstrates once again that people who want to kill off PvP are a vocal minority. When will CCP hear the rest of us?
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.13 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
But the original post is still there??
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.13 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
But the original post is still there??
It'll take 18 months to clean up the rest.
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.13 04:47:00 -
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BUMP ****IN PIECE OF **** BEAN****ERS
TROLL TROLL TROLL
CCP CLEANUP CREW...
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.13 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Here is the rub. I want ccp to fix fleet fight lag just as bad as anyone else. My sympathies go to everyone including myself who sank tens and tens of billions of isk into all the revelant cap skills and ships to outfit all my combat alts in shiney hotdrop style. Even had a few prospective offers to get into the nullsec game by joining one of the fw corps nullsec divisions so I was all happy and giddy to get started. Then Dominion hit and it all went up in a lag bomb. So yeah I too have lots of annoyance over all this stuff I was wanting to do suddenly getting yoinked out from under me. I can only imagine what it feels like for the ones who already were waist deep in it.
But really. Was it nessesary to highjack this and multiple other threads and turn them into a 'we can't fleet fight' rage fest? What does it accomplish? The needed coding revisions certainly are not going to get sped up on fixing it over pages and pages of rage. Plus noone can toss the 18 month misquote out over it because ccp has stated over and over they never stopped working on the fix for lag even with incarna and dust getting the lions share of the content creation devs(who by the way all suck at fixing lag) that won't work on other aspects of eve for that constantly tossed out 18 month snippet. Now besides fleet fight lag are there issues that need to be dealt with? Certainly. I will be one of the first to wag his finger in faction warfares general direction and give ccp a stern look about how the promised fleshing out never got past Soon.
But is faction warfare unplayably broken like fleet fights? Not at all. Granted the rr alts are annoying as is the lack of an official reason to undock and pew pew with the less than effective plexing mechanic but we still go out and have a ball every single day of the week. Same can be said for most other areas of eve. Do they need some lovin? Very much so. Cosmos is a prime example with its bpo rewards that for certain mods are fairly useless compared to named and t2 not to mention faction so noone really uses the content. But its still doable and gets you other rewards like fast stadings increases and some decent research agents so again it can wait for 18 months.
One can even surmise that the silver lining to the fleet fight thunderstorm of doom is that because there has been no ability to field sov destoying cap ship fleets that nullsec is more populated now than it ever was. So basically the lag let anyone with the corp skills and access to a hauler to setup shop and improve his system without fear of getting dropped by PL or the Goons or any nearby bored alliance just for the lulz. So now we have everyone all nice and cozy with plentiful outposts and cynojammers just waiting for lag to be fixed as they milk their upgrades for isk. Plus it should be waaaaaay more fun than if only the large previously established alliances had been able to pwn at will from day one locking everyone else out yet again.
Well true, nothing we can write on the forum will speed up the work. But sitting here, laughing and trolling won't help either.
Silently accepting that fleet warfare is broken due to lag and unstable grid-loading is really like the ignorant child that keeps telling herself "everything will be fine, someone will fix it". But that requires that someone is aware of the problem and gives a damn about fixing it (hope). Of course the "RAWR FIX IT ALREADY" will appear choleric but ultimately is an expression of "hey, here's a problem, I want that fixed now" (anger).
I don't think it's a special bonus that lag transformed the new sov-system into a stalemate. If anything it shows the wide consequences of lag and that either CCP accepted those consequences (terribad) or was unaware of them (bad).
IMO this demonstrates a lack of focus and/or ability of the people working on in-space features and that is a slippery slope. 2 expansions in a row showed these symptoms, I don't want a 3rd one.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.08.13 07:10:00 -
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I hear that once this thread is cleaned up they're gunna get started on the game EveOnline.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.13 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
On Topic: Eve is suffering from a thousand bugs.
Constructive reply: LISTEN to your player base and focus on fixes rather than content.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.13 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 13/08/2010 07:20:19
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
No, you haven't. The moment you clean your own first post is the moment the 'trolling' ends. But insulting the players is fully permitted, right?
I fully understand you're only doing your job but you guys need to explain to the idiots at the top of the food chain that if they don't stop smocking crack they'll end up right at the bottom, like so many other failed MMO's.
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Diabolick
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Posted - 2010.08.13 09:37:00 -
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Awards ceremony is tomorrow night if Im not mistaken.
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.13 11:27:00 -
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Back up you go.
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Jake Too
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Posted - 2010.08.13 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
The most constructive post that we could get in here would be a post by CCP management telling us about development (re)prioritization and resource allocation to document that you are actually taking the situation seriously!
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.13 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ferrus Manuss on 13/08/2010 11:57:47 i want to know what will be fixed in the next exspansion and what conent is being revisited.
apart form PI
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Rhoan Leigh
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Posted - 2010.08.13 13:28:00 -
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So, how do we all think EvE did?
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rhoan Leigh So, how do we all think EvE did?
Poorly.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:03:00 -
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Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
I will lol so hard I have to grasp for air if that happens. But boy, will I lol.
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Yeay Fritg
Caldari Confrerie de Kaedri Cluster Of Rebirth
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Yeay Fritg on 13/08/2010 15:01:44 CCP,
I like Eve ,I'm playing with different accounts since 2006.
Sad to say but I hope this year you will not win!
CCP DEV/QA people, thank you for all your job and EVE game !
Sorry that some CPP Staff decided not to support you in your developer/tester work.
Yeay
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:45:00 -
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Getting far too close to the bottom... STAY UP
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.08.13 17:30:00 -
[2354]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
That's a bit silly, since you started it all. Or the marketing ppl in charge
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.13 17:38:00 -
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I am being constructive... I am building a Posting Bridge to page 79!
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.13 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: King Aires Getting far too close to the bottom... STAY UP
Thats what SHE said!
...keep the threadnaught alive!
Bump. Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.08.13 18:01:00 -
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NO!!! --
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -John Wooden |
Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.13 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zulu Pilots of New Eden,
We have a series of blogs coming out to give a better insight into the technical side of CCP and progress in our long battle on lag. We know this issue is important to you, and there's plenty of room for further explanation, so we hope you tune in here in the coming weeks and months to follow our efforts.
We call this the long battle on lag because there's not a single issue that creates lag or removes it. It's a constant, slow battle that has many possible warriors standing against us on the opposing side. You may also remember some of our more focused initatives, like Need For Speed which we started 2006. It has been a priority within CCP since then as we've taken a holistic approach to EVE's growing population and the emergent behavior of its pilots. In EVE's long history, we've made continual progress towards the promised land of minimal lag, sometimes in incremental steps and sometimes punctuated by large leaps such as StacklessIO and EVE64.
Shortly after Dominion, as we've all noticed, things began reverting. This has been a problem, as we know how powerful and unique an experience a 1000+ player fleet fight can truly be. While this is all relative, as we're dealing with an exceptional gaming situation where the universe is large and un-sharded and allows for freedom of movement in the gamespace that is rarely seen elsewhere, CCP's goal is to return you to those epic space battles and then well beyond.
In the past we've tried to give the right mix of information for the general EVE audience, which has led us a bit away from uber-technical blogs. However, the more technical blogs we have put out have been well-received and since we're talking lag, the blogs following this will follow suit.
In the coming series...
Topic: Singularity Mass Testing Report, CCP Tanis
This is a report from some of the findings of the lass mass testing on Singularity and includes some of the work and investigations being done as a result. These kinds of scenarios can seldom be created on Tranquility with the amount of logging, probing and debugging in place, so this should show why each test is of great importance to us and why the brave, patient players joining us on Sisi are integral to help us tackle lag.
Topic: The Long Lag and MMO Scaling, CCP Warlock
This blog is about distributed applications (of which EVE is one of the more complex) designing them and how CCP scales them to give you not only the best possible performance across the cluster as a whole, but also for specific activities like fleet fights. This comes from Warlock's presentation at Para 2010, which was presented to the CSM 5 during a break in deliberations and requested in this EVE-O post. This should give another angle of understanding of the behind-the-scenes efforts we've been taking.
Topic: "Thin Clients" and Automated Testing from CCP Atropos
This is an explanation of an effort to rework the guts of the EVE client to slim it down as much as possible so we can undertake controlled, large scale tests in a more automated way. This new testing tool will benefit both quality and scalability moving forwards and can help us simulate fleet-fights "on demand". We aren't to the point where we can imitate player behavior though, so this goes alongside mass-testing as one of our investigative tools.
Topic: Carbon, CCP's Core Technology , CCP Unifex
CCP has a Core Technology Group which creates and maintains all of the core functionality of what runs EVE and will run our future games. These are groups of superspecialists which helped to produce things like StacklessIO and the Trinity2 graphics engine. This blog will help clarify the overall approach we take to making games and more parts of CCP's organizational structure which contribute directly to the development of EVE Online than just the dedicated EVE Dev Team.
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:11:00 -
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too little too late imo
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper Go Zeba GO, try to salvage the unsalvageable with your expert knowledge on EVE! A single loss and kill make you the greateststestestst EVE expert around and we're in awe of your knowledge in regards to bugs, lack of features and lag. Now if only rocks gave you km's.
Says the forum troll alt with zero kills and five losses with probably just over the starting sp on his alt so he could make the witty corp name. We all have our combat alts to go with our forum alts but this forum alt at least has nearly 80 mil sp to use as I wish be it perfect probing skills or full cap ship skills or literally flying anything minnie with complete max skills. Also I have plenty of kills on this character from the nullsec runs in a rapier with alt bomber accounts I used to do. But I don't ever post killmails as its just silly to give away free intel. Why not post killmails? Because then when people see you in local and look you up they all go 'oh its a carebear! lets kill him!' and then the trap is sprung. Besides, the tears from the forum trolls trying to use it against me is hilarious.
Originally by: Ban Doga Well true, nothing we can write on the forum will speed up the work. But sitting here, laughing and trolling won't help either.
Well if thats how you feel then maybe you could convince your thread mates to stop with all the laughing and trolling? The only trolling I personally did in this thread was to counter the other trolling that was already to page 55 by the time I got around to it. Nothing more nothing less. Sorry if the previous trolls in this thread didn't like the competition.
Originally by: Ban Doga Silently accepting that fleet warfare is broken due to lag and unstable grid-loading is really like the ignorant child that keeps telling herself "everything will be fine, someone will fix it". But that requires that someone is aware of the problem and gives a damn about fixing it (hope). Of course the "RAWR FIX IT ALREADY" will appear choleric but ultimately is an expression of "hey, here's a problem, I want that fixed now" (anger).
I have never once said anyone should silently accept it and just go sit in a corner. What I have stated though is that if you are going to voice your opinion then do so in an adult manner and maybe people won't treat them like pouty kids. And a quick glance at the overall forums pretty much leaves me to believe that ccp was informed about it looong ago.
Originally by: Ban Doga I don't think it's a special bonus that lag transformed the new sov-system into a stalemate. If anything it shows the wide consequences of lag and that either CCP accepted those consequences (terribad) or was unaware of them (bad).
The only consequenses I see are that noone can fight in large blobs. Everyone else in nullsec and most especially the alliance leaders who are raking in the iskies from all the uninterrupted production of moon goo and corp taxes from all the ratting and anomoly farming are having a grand old time. So yeah in the context of getting the new sov 2.0 up and running with everyone getting a fair start to improve their territory then lag has been a huge if unintended success.
Originally by: Ban Doga IMO this demonstrates a lack of focus and/or ability of the people working on in-space features and that is a slippery slope. 2 expansions in a row showed these symptoms, I don't want a 3rd one.
2 expansions in a row also added many fixes to the game though fleet lag has not been one of them. IMO you don't judge a companys overall focus and ability over a niche gameplay element even if that element plays greatly in the marketing departments job to sell eve and has a rabidly vocal following from all the players who literally spent years getting to the point they can do them.
Again, trying to burn the house down to spite the landlord is not the best tactic in the world to use and just gets you a heap of ashes with nowhere to sleep.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:48:00 -
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And since I ran out of space in the last post here is a tidbit for our dear readers in this thread to ponder.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1368315
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.13 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.13 20:31:00 -
[2363]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.
Amazing. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Also I didn't realise responding to the usual forum trolls was supposed to be a design priority to actually fixing the issues the game has. If anything the real effect all these blogs will have is to take away the time and most importantly the focus the devs in question need to do their work. It's not a good practice to pull code junkies out of their programming trance to explain themselves to the monkeys. So good going guys for delaying the fix to lag yet again. Proud of yourselves?
Stay away from my house though as I don't want it burnt down.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.13 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.
Amazing. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Also I didn't realise responding to the usual forum trolls was supposed to be a design priority to actually fixing the issues the game has. If anything the real effect all these blogs will have is to take away the time and most importantly the focus the devs in question need to do their work. It's not a good practice to pull code junkies out of their programming trance to explain themselves to the monkeys. So good going guys for delaying the fix to lag yet again. Proud of yourselves?
Stay away from my house though as I don't want it burnt down.
The honest, but unfortunate reality is that mixed in with the trolls there were some very insightful and seriously concerned players that wanted answers to the question.
Also, "usual forum trolls". Pot - kettle...kettle - pot.
Syn Callibri Ilharess to the Scorpion Tribe
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Zverofaust
Gallente Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.08.13 22:33:00 -
[2365]
Back to the top.
___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |
Norantio
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.13 23:39:00 -
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Why was this post all the way at the bottom?
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.13 23:40:00 -
[2367]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Zeba
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
I have to disagree Zeba...its moar like, 'The PR people we hired finally got the best language together so that we can make it sound like we give a s**t.' It took how long for them to even say anything about it? It would have been more professional to have addressed it before it became as big a bi**h-fest as it has. Thats called good customer relations...oh wait.
Amazing. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Also I didn't realise responding to the usual forum trolls was supposed to be a design priority to actually fixing the issues the game has. If anything the real effect all these blogs will have is to take away the time and most importantly the focus the devs in question need to do their work. It's not a good practice to pull code junkies out of their programming trance to explain themselves to the monkeys. So good going guys for delaying the fix to lag yet again. Proud of yourselves?
Stay away from my house though as I don't want it burnt down.
All developers need to be accountable. If a developer can't spend ten minutes explaining what they've been working on for the past several weeks, they don't deserve to work anywhere, regardless of how good they are with code.
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Lrrp
Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.13 23:55:00 -
[2368]
Edited by: Lrrp on 13/08/2010 23:56:27 Edit to remove echo
Originally by: Zeba And since I ran out of space in the last post here is a tidbit for our dear readers in this thread to ponder.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1368315
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
And if we didn't stamp our feet and did just as mommy told us....how much do you think CCP would wind up doing to better the core game?
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.14 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba And since I ran out of space in the last post here is a tidbit for our dear readers in this thread to ponder.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1368315
Also in before the usual 'they only did it because we stamped our feet and fussed like little kids everywhere there was a reply to post button' poast.
Yeah, damn those customers who actually want something in return.
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.14 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 12/08/2010 18:29:59 I think a few newer players and ccp fail to realize the source (or at least one of the sources) of the playerbase's grievance: at one point, 1000 on 1000 was possible. Granted, there would be be slight - 10 to 30 second - module delay. But it was possible and quite epic.
We had a taste of pure awesomeness that is this game with minimal lag. It worked!
We want it back.
Had we never seen fights of this proportion, I doubt you'd see the whining going on in this thread. Too late though, we had a taste and are hooked. We're junkies ccp. Give us our damn junk.
Confirming ccp has lost the junk in its trunk and I am no longer attracted to it
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.14 00:49:00 -
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Oh zeba, if only you had managed to get all your "pvp alts" into 0.0 before this damn lag hit!!! CURSES! WHAT BAD LUCK FOR YOU MY FRIEND!
Also lefting eve! WoW is actually really nice. Loving the paladin class.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.14 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Says the forum troll alt with zero kills and five losses with probably just over the starting sp on his alt so he could make the witty corp name. We all have our combat alts to go with our forum alts but this forum alt at least has nearly 80 mil sp to use as I wish be it perfect probing skills or full cap ship skills or literally flying anything minnie with complete max skills. Also I have plenty of kills on this character from the nullsec runs in a rapier with alt bomber accounts I used to do. But I don't ever post killmails as its just silly to give away free intel. Why not post killmails? Because then when people see you in local and look you up they all go 'oh its a carebear! lets kill him!' and then the trap is sprung. Besides, the tears from the forum trolls trying to use it against me is hilarious.
Proof or it didn't happen.
Originally by: Zeba Well if thats how you feel then maybe you could convince your thread mates to stop with all the laughing and trolling? The only trolling I personally did in this thread was to counter the other trolling that was already to page 55 by the time I got around to it. Nothing more nothing less. Sorry if the previous trolls in this thread didn't like the competition.
Trolling is trolling. It doesn't matter what you're trolling for. It's all meaningless.
Originally by: Zeba I have never once said anyone should silently accept it and just go sit in a corner. What I have stated though is that if you are going to voice your opinion then do so in an adult manner and maybe people won't treat them like pouty kids. And a quick glance at the overall forums pretty much leaves me to believe that ccp was informed about it looong ago.
Games are for kids. If you make a game, expect kids to play it. It's that simple.
Originally by: Zeba The only consequenses I see are that noone can fight in large blobs. Everyone else in nullsec and most especially the alliance leaders who are raking in the iskies from all the uninterrupted production of moon goo and corp taxes from all the ratting and anomoly farming are having a grand old time. So yeah in the context of getting the new sov 2.0 up and running with everyone getting a fair start to improve their territory then lag has been a huge if unintended success.
Spending several hours reconnecting a bunch of components is indeed a "grand old time".
Originally by: Zeba 2 expansions in a row also added many fixes to the game though fleet lag has not been one of them. IMO you don't judge a companys overall focus and ability over a niche gameplay element even if that element plays greatly in the marketing departments job to sell eve and has a rabidly vocal following from all the players who literally spent years getting to the point they can do them.
Marketing something and not delivering is called scamming. At the very least, scammers should be called out.
Originally by: Zeba
Again, trying to burn the house down to spite the landlord is not the best tactic in the world to use and just gets you a heap of ashes with nowhere to sleep.
The house has already burned down. But we should all keep quiet so we don't interrupt the landlord's "trance".
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.14 01:43:00 -
[2373]
Edited by: Sajad on 14/08/2010 01:44:05
Originally by: Nova Tiempo
Originally by: CCP Zulu Pilots of New Eden, We call this the long battle on lag because there's not a single issue that creates lag or removes it. It's a constant, slow battle that has many possible warriors standing against us on the opposing side. You may also remember some of our more focused initatives, like Need For Speed which we started 2006. It has been a priority within CCP since then as we've taken a holistic approach to EVE's growing population and the emergent behavior of its pilots.
It's a priority, but not as high a priority as developing signs.
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.08.14 02:35:00 -
[2374]
hao 2 bump??
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.14 03:35:00 -
[2375]
Originally by: Zeba Apparently ccp are commiting 100% of the devs who can fix lag to fix lag and not sending said lag fixing devs off to make virtual clothes for incarna or map levels for dust. Not to mention trying to hire even moar devs so they can do even more stuff in a single development cycle. They also have a dedicated team working on pi unlike other areas of the game like fleshing out fw etc etc which will get their turn in 18 months. So your point is?
They're not committing 100% of anything. The vast majority of devs are definitely not working on lag.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.08.14 04:50:00 -
[2376]
Edited by: Super Whopper on 14/08/2010 04:54:42
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Super Whopper Go Zeba GO, try to salvage the unsalvageable with your expert knowledge on EVE! A single loss and kill make you the greateststestestst EVE expert around and we're in awe of your knowledge in regards to bugs, lack of features and lag. Now if only rocks gave you km's.
Says the forum troll alt with zero kills and five losses with probably just over the starting sp on his alt so he could make the witty corp name. We all have our combat alts to go with our forum alts but this forum alt at least has nearly 80 mil sp to use as I wish be it perfect probing skills or full cap ship skills or literally flying anything minnie with complete max skills. Also I have plenty of kills on this character from the nullsec runs in a rapier with alt bomber accounts I used to do. But I don't ever post killmails as its just silly to give away free intel. Why not post killmails? Because then when people see you in local and look you up they all go 'oh its a carebear! lets kill him!' and then the trap is sprung. Besides, the tears from the forum trolls trying to use it against me is hilarious.
I actually managed to quote you because your posts are so horribly formatted a dead rodent could do a better job.
And you're wrong again, I don't have the starting SP, I have just over that by about 1000
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Apparently ccp are commiting 100% of the devs who can fix lag to fix lag and not sending said lag fixing devs off to make virtual clothes for incarna or map levels for dust. Not to mention trying to hire even moar devs so they can do even more stuff in a single development cycle. They also have a dedicated team working on pi unlike other areas of the game like fleshing out fw etc etc which will get their turn in 18 months. So your point is?
They're not committing 100% of anything. The vast majority of devs are definitely not working on lag.
No point in arguing with Zeba, it's as stupid as it gets because the devblogs and CSM minutes already show how many devs are working on what but it keeps hammering on about the same inconsequential nonsense as always. It has no idea, it doesn't want to learn and it has no intentions of stopping being a fanboy.
It is either a dev succeeding at failing at damage control or it works for that PR company. Either way leave it be and let it argue with itself pointlessly because CCP's own data refute everything's it's said so far.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.14 06:21:00 -
[2377]
Seriously, just DNFTT. It already admitted that it's trolling, and tried to justify its trolling with the fantasy that people objecting to the crippling lag that CCP introduced with Dominion are really "trolling" CCP. Let the troll starve.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 07:48:00 -
[2378]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of some trolling and off topic posts. Please be sure to post on topic and in a constructive manner.
Please ensure your game development is on topic and constructive.
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Aelius
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.08.14 08:46:00 -
[2379]
Dear CCP.
I know that EVE is a space game, and thats why surely the reason of this thread... You clearly must be "living on another planet" or/and have "your head in space".
Tyrannis for "Europe game of the year" award
Well maybe if it was "Iceland game of the year" award you would had a chance, even so it was going to be hard to win that one.
Tyrannis and PI should be nominated for "Best anti-sleeping disorder game of the year" award. I will put it above milk and cookies and equal to Xanax in therms of effectiveness.
Well... your move it's understandable... it will put all EVE community to sleep for 18 months while u work on Incarna and Dust514. That way time will fly by until you start working on EVE again.
_________________________ CSM Candidate for 2011 (soon a pretty photoshop sig) _________________________
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 08:56:00 -
[2380]
heh I would rank my own attempt at making a 2d version of tetris in c++ a better game release this year than eve online.
The sad thing is zymurgist wont take any of this onboard cause it will spoil his thread. He will fail to pass any of the views expressed in this thread to his group leaders at CCP. Then CCP will hijack every IP address in iceland and mass vote for eve online(its a matter of national security). Then they will still lose out in the popular vote.
If only they had fixed the lag caused by Dominion before they released Tyrannis - then the player base would be supportive of their little pr stunts. Oh my mistake Dominion didnt cause lag it is a whole collection of small issues that CCP are attempting to resolve.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 10:35:00 -
[2381]
Well I'm bored doing the dumbest thing I've ever done in eve. So I'm just going to post a bump post in this thread - beacuse it is the most accurate portrayl of feeling regarding eveonline in this section of the forum.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.14 10:51:00 -
[2382]
Overall, what do you think has been CCP's reaction to the responses in this thread?
Do you think they just blow it off as the trolling of immature players.
or
Perhaps take this very seriously and brainstorm methods to win back player confidence in CCP.
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Angry Defiler
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Posted - 2010.08.14 11:20:00 -
[2383]
Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.14 13:02:00 -
[2384]
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Not a problem, I am ****ed at these asshats and I don't care if all of eve knows it.
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2010.08.14 13:17:00 -
[2385]
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Lolwut
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Satyri Hermides
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Posted - 2010.08.14 15:53:00 -
[2386]
Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Lolwut
Yeah what?!
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.14 15:54:00 -
[2387]
Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Lolwut
Dunno, just know this was getting too close to page 2
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Vernn Miller
Caldari Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.08.14 16:20:00 -
[2388]
Can`t really decide between dominion and tyrannis. In terms of how much they broke the game. One thing is sure tho... No way in hell am I voting for this ****ty expansion.
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.14 18:13:00 -
[2389]
Back you go.
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Myz Toyou
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.08.14 18:17:00 -
[2390]
today we will see how ze peoples voted
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.14 19:14:00 -
[2391]
wow CCP deleted like 20 posts... wtf, I thought you wanted our votes?!
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:54:00 -
[2392]
And another post deleted. Would be nice to see reasons for post deletion, or is it simply a case of silence the dissenters?
hmm maybe I'm off topic - oh I know, Your dreaming if you want me to vote for this terrible expansion as european game of the year
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:56:00 -
[2393]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 And another post deleted. Would be nice to see reasons for post deletion, or is it simply a case of silence the dissenters?
hmm maybe I'm off topic - oh I know, Your dreaming if you want me to vote for this terrible expansion as european game of the year
I do not know why your post was deleted, often threads are locked for discussing forum moderation. Deletes often directly attack people, or violate other terms of forum decorum.
The fact that THIS thread has survived for so long appears to directly refute your premise that CCP is attempting to silence dissenters. The only "silencing" mechanic they have imposed is to unsticky it, which to be fair, it never should have been in the first place.
Best, Apollo ************************************************** * Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. * ************************************************** |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 20:59:00 -
[2394]
I have posted 10 times in this thread - each time saying a variation of the same thing: lol you want us to help your marketing for a broken game? Give up the ghost ccp, concentrate on your core business and reconnect with your sutomer base.
each time I recheck thread my posts have magically disappeared.
Perhaps you could read up the page a little where other people have noticed the same thing...
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:08:00 -
[2395]
Edited by: Apollo Gabriel on 14/08/2010 21:09:24
Originally by: Jita Alt666 I have posted 10 times in this thread - each time saying a variation of the same thing: lol you want us to help your marketing for a broken game? Give up the ghost ccp, concentrate on your core business and reconnect with your sutomer base.
each time I recheck thread my posts have magically disappeared.
Perhaps you could read up the page a little where other people have noticed the same thing...
Ok I have checked into your posts
http://eve-search.com/thread/1360067/author/Jita_Alt666
I see one thread cleaned by admins. If after they cleaned it, you then reposted it, they would be within their rights to delete it without additional warnings. There are many posts within this massive thread which contain strong and angry language which persist. I would say that I think you are either exaggerating, or purposely attempting to incite with your posts.
Please understand that I am not attempting to attacking you, although I recognize it may come across that way. I also see you edited a previous post which now swears at CCP, and is a violation. F
If you have something constructive to share, please do so.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.14 21:22:00 -
[2396]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Edited by: Apollo Gabriel on 14/08/2010 21:09:24
Originally by: Jita Alt666 I have posted 10 times in this thread - each time saying a variation of the same thing: lol you want us to help your marketing for a broken game? Give up the ghost ccp, concentrate on your core business and reconnect with your sutomer base.
each time I recheck thread my posts have magically disappeared.
Perhaps you could read up the page a little where other people have noticed the same thing...
Ok I have checked into your posts
http://eve-search.com/thread/1360067/author/Jita_Alt666
I see one thread cleaned by admins. If after they cleaned it, you then reposted it, they would be within their rights to delete it without additional warnings. There are many posts within this massive thread which contain strong and angry language which persist. I would say that I think you are either exaggerating, or purposely attempting to incite with your posts.
Please understand that I am not attempting to attacking you, although I recognize it may come across that way. I also see you edited a previous post which now swears at CCP, and is a violation. F
If you have something constructive to share, please do so.
Yes there are many people who have posted in this thread expressing their distaste for Eve Online in its current state and the audacity of the company to ask for us to support them in achieving international honours.
This thread has been linked in 3 outside eve media resources in the last 72 hours. That fact makes this thread an opportunity to incite CCP into response because the result of their response will be seen by the wider gaming community and not simply their own subscribers.
There is a huge number of people unhappy with eve online in its current state. Until CCP satisfy us that they are constructively attempting to resolve the issues - expect to see less than positive responses on these boards.
btw: posting a blog saying "Were trying to fix lag" is NOT constructively attempting to resolve the lag issue.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:09:00 -
[2397]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 I have posted 10 times in this thread - each time saying a variation of the same thing: lol you want us to help your marketing for a broken game? Give up the ghost ccp, concentrate on your core business and reconnect with your sutomer base.
each time I recheck thread my posts have magically disappeared.
Perhaps you could read up the page a little where other people have noticed the same thing...
You're posting too much. You have the last post in nearly every thread on the first page.
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:11:00 -
[2398]
Back to the top you go.
And to keep ccp from deleting this (hopefully), I wonder what the devs are thinking about their chances or winning?
I for one can't wait to see the results.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:16:00 -
[2399]
Hi, I made a post recently that was deleted about posts being deleted. I have not been informed of why my posts about posts being deleted was deleted so I am going to assume it was just a mistake and this post here will not be deleted.
You cannot silence your player base, you cannot fix your game by making us shut up. We are loyal, loving subscribers of your game and we just want it to be better for all of us. Stop deleting posts, it makes you all look like a bunch of tools.
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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JASON W0RTHING
The Devolved HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.14 22:30:00 -
[2400]
I'll stop bumping this thread in 18-24 months.
Originally by: CCP Shadow What is thy bidd -- Wait. This thread, I have an irresistible urge to lock it for "being related to neither crime nor punishment."
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.15 00:17:00 -
[2401]
Originally by: JASON W0RTHING I'll stop bumping this thread in 18-24 months.
Gunna go ahead and empty quote this.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.15 00:46:00 -
[2402]
post some more --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost |
Shiftless
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.15 01:20:00 -
[2403]
I'll stop bumping this thread when I can see hostiles in local again. Oh... And when CCP isn't handing out free SBU's for timer errors and ignoring the problem with station repping not resetting the attack.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:43:00 -
[2404]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Jita Alt666 I have posted 10 times in this thread - each time saying a variation of the same thing: lol you want us to help your marketing for a broken game? Give up the ghost ccp, concentrate on your core business and reconnect with your sutomer base.
each time I recheck thread my posts have magically disappeared.
Perhaps you could read up the page a little where other people have noticed the same thing...
You're posting too much. You have the last post in nearly every thread on the first page.
That my friend is the goal.
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Black Kestrel
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.15 03:58:00 -
[2405]
Edited by: Black Kestrel on 15/08/2010 03:58:30 Might as well just sticky this thing, CCP. I don't think it's going away any time soon.
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Veldspar Queen
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:13:00 -
[2406]
Bump
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Angry Defiler
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Posted - 2010.08.15 04:15:00 -
[2407]
Originally by: Satyri Hermides
Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Lolwut
Yeah what?!
Not sure if it was temporary, but I received an error from the forum while trying to post with an alt earlier today. The message I received was something along the lines of not being able to post unless the toon is in a player corp with a minimum of 10 members.
Will confirm again later and if I get the message again, I'll be sure to copy and share it.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.08.15 08:21:00 -
[2408]
Edited by: Serpents smile on 15/08/2010 08:22:49
Originally by: Angry Defiler
Originally by: Satyri Hermides
Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Angry Defiler Bump.
Looks like CCP is trying to make it so alts can't easily post. Posting restriction unless toon is in a player corp with 10+ members?
Lolwut
Yeah what?!
Not sure if it was temporary, but I received an error from the forum while trying to post with an alt earlier today. The message I received was something along the lines of not being able to post unless the toon is in a player corp with a minimum of 10 members.
Will confirm again later and if I get the message again, I'll be sure to copy and share it.
Try CAOD forum there you have ^that limit.
Also, who did win?
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achoura
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Posted - 2010.08.15 08:37:00 -
[2409]
There's only 4 or 5 ppl in my corp and I've been on these forums for years. then again I avoid caod. ***The EVE servers and their patches***
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Methicone
Amarr Tax Avoidance Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.15 10:09:00 -
[2410]
So, anyone know who won what yet? 60-Day Eve Game Time Code
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wizzard66
Gallente Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.15 10:17:00 -
[2411]
Hi CCP
Taken your customers serious allready??
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Xarthaginian
Maelstrom Crew Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.15 10:51:00 -
[2412]
I cant find the list of winners, perhaps someone with stronger google-fu can. Event was held lastnight.
But surely CCP would have been notified if they won. So CCP Zymurgist, did CCP win?
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Sam Browne
MYTHIC Developments
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Posted - 2010.08.15 10:58:00 -
[2413]
Edited by: Sam Browne on 15/08/2010 10:59:52 Pants.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.15 11:34:00 -
[2414]
Edited by: King Aires on 15/08/2010 11:34:25 Can we get to 80 before CCP knocks off a few?
Fake Edit: Who won?
Real Edit: FIRST ON PAGE 80!
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.15 11:37:00 -
[2415]
LMFAO!
Age of Conan, ArmA2 and BF1943 all beat out Eve. Eve beat Perfect Dark. Eve wont no other awards or was not in any other category.
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Diabolick
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Posted - 2010.08.15 11:43:00 -
[2416]
Originally by: King Aires LMFAO!
Age of Conan, ArmA2 and BF1943 all beat out Eve. Eve beat Perfect Dark. Eve wont no other awards or was not in any other category.
I assume you are taking that from here? http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/awards
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.15 11:44:00 -
[2417]
HAHAHA OMG EVE SUCKS DIDNT FORM COHERENT SENTANCE; MUST WIPE DRIVEL OF MY NECKBEARD; HAHA EVE SUCKS YET I STIL PAY TO POST ON THEIR FORUMS; EMO RAGE KEK GBTW!
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.15 12:01:00 -
[2418]
Originally by: Diabolick
Originally by: King Aires LMFAO!
Age of Conan, ArmA2 and BF1943 all beat out Eve. Eve beat Perfect Dark. Eve wont no other awards or was not in any other category.
I assume you are taking that from here? http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/awards
Cos if so you are an idiot. Thats an alphabetized list of entrants.
True true... so what your saying is Eve is likely in last place then?
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Ferrus Manuss
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Posted - 2010.08.15 14:07:00 -
[2419]
up you go
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.15 17:18:00 -
[2420]
Eve's score isn't listed, the other games all have a score and percentage, Eve does not. Perhaps they are waiting 18 months for the vote count.
Not funny I know, but a dev used the joke so I gotta follow up. ************************************************** * Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. * ************************************************** |
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Stenner
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Posted - 2010.08.15 17:59:00 -
[2421]
Guess we need to keep this thread on first page for the next 18 months, so here's a bump.
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weaselalt
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Posted - 2010.08.15 19:04:00 -
[2422]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Eve's score isn't listed, the other games all have a score and percentage, Eve does not. Perhaps they are waiting 18 months for the vote count.
Not funny I know, but a dev used the joke so I gotta follow up.
Those are review scores from metacritic and gamerankings, not votes.
Assuming that the page is ordered from most votes-> least votes, it looks like battlefield won and eve came in last behind arma.
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.15 19:16:00 -
[2423]
Hmm just had a fleet fight with 400+ in local. This keeps up and might not vote against eve.
Step in right direction but then it could just a be a one off .. Time will tell.
Also UP
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.15 19:31:00 -
[2424]
Originally by: weaselalt
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Eve's score isn't listed, the other games all have a score and percentage, Eve does not. Perhaps they are waiting 18 months for the vote count.
Not funny I know, but a dev used the joke so I gotta follow up.
Those are review scores from metacritic and gamerankings, not votes.
Assuming that the page is ordered from most votes-> least votes, it looks like battlefield won and eve came in last behind arma.
Why don't you stop looking at the list of nominees and look at the results (which haven't been published yet)
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.15 20:00:00 -
[2425]
Originally by: King Aires FIRST ON PAGE 80!
You're living the dream, man.
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NatteFrost85
Amarr The Phoenix Quarry of Eve
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Posted - 2010.08.15 20:53:00 -
[2426]
bump
(oh yea, FIX LAGG!)
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Tronulation
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Posted - 2010.08.15 20:55:00 -
[2427]
Originally by: Sha Kharn Hmm just had a fleet fight with 400+ in local. This keeps up and might not vote against eve.
Step in right direction but then it could just a be a one off .. Time will tell.
Also UP
So did I, unfortunately with the game play we experienced I still wouldn't vote for EvE.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.15 21:06:00 -
[2428]
Dear CCP.
Please post results of the inaugural European Game of the Year Competition on your front page. Actually post a direct link in the little box on login screen.
Thank you for your transparency.
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Lady Lazy
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Posted - 2010.08.15 21:13:00 -
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Eve Online Tyrannis won so the playerbase waiting for a fully working product lose.
Those at the top of the CCP Monkey Tree will now be more resolute that new features sells better than polished quality.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.15 23:17:00 -
[2430]
So its true? The population of iceland were forced to vote as a national security measure?
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.15 23:50:00 -
[2431]
Confirming that all Icelandic citizens who fail to vote get 18 months jail time.
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2010.08.16 00:01:00 -
[2432]
The result:
Quote:
Best European Online Game EVE Online: Tyrannis
Sorry, I can't help but laugh. We should have started a betting pool.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.08.16 00:08:00 -
[2433]
Originally by: Shaalira D'arc The result:
Quote:
Best European Online Game EVE Online: Tyrannis
Sorry, I can't help but laugh. We should have started a betting pool.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.16 00:47:00 -
[2434]
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.08.16 00:51:00 -
[2435]
Granted this game was not up against competition at all but still a hilarious result. At least those other games actually deliver working content even if it is worse than Eve.
Biomass yourself CCP
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.08.16 01:13:00 -
[2436]
Edited by: Legs Mackenzie on 16/08/2010 01:14:19 i think the fanboi level in this thread has been demonstrated quite clearly.
i am very sad at the results.
(we, your customers, did not want you to win!)
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Sha Dar
eXceeded
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Posted - 2010.08.16 01:46:00 -
[2437]
WTF !!
Travesty. Absolute travesty. |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 02:22:00 -
[2438]
I wonder how much CCP's PR department had to pay for those results. --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:03:00 -
[2439]
Edited by: Zeba on 16/08/2010 03:04:39
Originally by: Shaalira D'arc The result:
Quote:
Best European Online Game EVE Online: Tyrannis
Sorry, I can't help but laugh. We should have started a betting pool.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously..
edit; Thanks everyone for all bumps! Eve couldn't have done it without you!
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Ivan En'Vec
Heavy Metal Machine.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:09:00 -
[2440]
http://www.european-games-award.com/
Apparently EVE still won, somehow. However, this isn't something CCP will ever be able to tack onto an awards list without tons of player attention being drawn to this thread. You won't see them put out a news bulletin on this one, guaranteed.
With that said, CCP - you won an award that you can't even tell your playerbase that you proudly won. *Something* is amiss, no?
To add something sort of constructive - the lag dev blogs are great, but so far it's been sarcastic dev replies and more of "we're working on it" which is what we've been hearing for the past couple years. What the playerbase is after is a humble apology for being out of touch and a tl;dr of what you're doing do about it. Not rockets, not lag, but bigger picture.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:15:00 -
[2441]
Originally by: Ivan En'Vec However, this isn't something CCP will ever be able to tack onto an awards list without tons of player attention being drawn to this thread. You won't see them put out a news bulletin on this one, guaranteed.
It didn't work the first time so what makes you think it woll work the second? Or the third, or fourth, or yadda yadda yadda. Bet it gets put on the front page tommorrow and has a special little 'x site lurves us' spot on an upcoming advertisement.
So gaiz? U mad u got beat at your own lobbyist smear campaign game?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:26:00 -
[2442]
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie (we, your customers, did not want you to win!)
Not sure how you could say that with a straight face given that, obviously, the customers DID want them to win.
Maybe you just meant the "Whining Maggot contingent" didn't want them to win?
Originally by: Zeba HAHAHAHAHA!
Seriously..
edit; Thanks everyone for all bumps! Eve couldn't have done it without You!
Pretty much this.
Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there. .
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:30:00 -
[2443]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing faction warfare.(and that other stuff too like fleet fights I guess ;p)
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:45:00 -
[2444]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing everything else!
completely agree! .
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:50:00 -
[2445]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing FACTION WARFARE!!!
completely agree!
Fixed.
Also: Bah. If the fleet fight guys can whinge about their part of the game then I can whinge about my part of the game.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.08.16 04:44:00 -
[2446]
HAHaHaHa!
Congrats CCP, even if you don't deserve it for the obnoxious click fest that's PI.
Anyhow, hope this thread and all related side remarks gave you a good kick in the behind.
Now show us what you got, we'll be watching you.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:51:00 -
[2447]
Edited by: Ban Doga on 16/08/2010 05:51:51
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing FACTION WARFARE!!!
completely agree!
Fixed.
Also: Bah. If the fleet fight guys can whinge about their part of the game then I can whinge about my part of the game.
Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe. Why should CCP risk not getting this award next year by changing it?!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:56:00 -
[2448]
Originally by: Ban Doga Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe.
Yes, because thats all there is to do in eve.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:59:00 -
[2449]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe.
Yes, because thats all there is to do in eve.
Glad you agree
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.16 06:16:00 -
[2450]
Meh. How to win the award in three easy steps.
1. Get together some folks, have them make a bunch of Gmail/hotmail/yahoo/whatever email accounts. 2. Have them register those accounts to vote, then vote for EVE. 3. Astroturfing complete, award received.
Just saying. ------------------------------------------------
Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain! |
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 06:24:00 -
[2451]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Meh. How to win the award in three easy steps.
1. Get together some folks, have them make a bunch of Gmail/hotmail/yahoo/whatever email accounts. 2. Have them register those accounts to vote, then vote for EVE. 3. Astroturfing complete, award received.
Just saying.
So ccp gets the top award for ballot stuffing too? Total win and perfectly within eves expected behaviour codes.
Of course ballot box stuffing tactics like that would never have occurred to the other competitors to use.
Just saying.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2010.08.16 07:29:00 -
[2452]
Edited by: Lillith Starfire on 16/08/2010 07:36:01 Eve won best European online game, despite 80 page thread on official forum where most of the posts really aren't very positive about the game.
This means:
The forum community does not represent the bulk of eve players so you're all irrelevent
OR it's true, the data really does not support that quality is more important than quantity.
OR something fishy this way comes
OR it really is the best online European game
OR <insert other option here. I ran out>
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Nardman
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:25:00 -
[2453]
Originally by: Ivan En'Vec http://www.european-games-award.com/
Apparently EVE still won, somehow. However, this isn't something CCP will ever be able to tack onto an awards list without tons of player attention being drawn to this thread. You won't see them put out a news bulletin on this one, guaranteed.
With that said, CCP - you won an award that you can't even tell your playerbase that you proudly won. *Something* is amiss, no?
To add something sort of constructive - the lag dev blogs are great, but so far it's been sarcastic dev replies and more of "we're working on it" which is what we've been hearing for the past couple years. What the playerbase is after is a humble apology for being out of touch and a tl;dr of what you're doing do about it. Not rockets, not lag, but bigger picture.
Does the above above link shows the games that won according to the people that run that site or the results of the "Peoples Choice" awards (where people actually vote)?
http://www.european-games-award.com/index.php/public-voting
Anyone who thinks EvE is the best online game has their head up their ass (or simply hasn't experienced any of the severely broken mechanics by some streak of luck [or severe carebearness]).
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:29:00 -
[2454]
Originally by: Lillith Starfire Edited by: Lillith Starfire on 16/08/2010 07:36:01 Eve won best European online game, despite 80 page thread on official forum where most of the posts really aren't very positive about the game.
This means:
The forum community does not represent the bulk of eve players so you're all irrelevent
OR it's true, the data really does not support that quality is more important than quantity.
OR something fishy this way comes
OR it really is the best online European game
OR <insert other option here. I ran out>
The forum trolls and their alt army just overestimate their influence. While it is certainly true, that EVE has issues with lag at the moment and CCP will focus mainly on new features for the time being instead reworking existing features, their portrayal of the situation is just laughable hyberbole. No point wasting time arguing with them when they intentionally misrepresent the situation for cheap lolz. It makes for entertaining threads I guess, but people who actually read Zulu's dev blog or do other things than just big fleet fights can see how overblown their rants are.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:35:00 -
[2455]
Unfortunately this just gives CCP more confidence to continue with business as usual.
EVE can be so much more, and I'm not even talking about add-ons. Just "quality of product" issues like bug fixes and feature enhancements.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:37:00 -
[2456]
Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 08:38:32
Originally by: Nardman Anyone who thinks EvE is the best online game has their head up their ass (or simply hasn't experienced any of the severely broken mechanics by some streak of luck [or severe carebearness]).
...or has played other games and realizes that, broken mechanics and all, this is STILL the best online game...
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue The forum trolls and their alt army just overestimate their influence. While it is certainly true, that EVE has issues with lag at the moment and CCP will focus mainly on new features for the time being instead reworking existing features, their portrayal of the situation is just laughable hyberbole. No point wasting time arguing with them when they intentionally misrepresent the situation for cheap lolz. It makes for entertaining threads I guess, but people who actually read Zulu's dev blog or do other things than just big fleet fights can see how overblown their rants are.
Bingo.
Originally by: Atticus Fynch Unfortunately this just gives CCP more confidence to continue with business as usual.
EVE can be so much more, and I'm not even talking about add-ons. Just "quality of product" issues like bug fixes and feature enhancements.
Hi Nooma. .
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:37:00 -
[2457]
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Lillith Starfire Edited by: Lillith Starfire on 16/08/2010 07:36:01 Eve won best European online game, despite 80 page thread on official forum where most of the posts really aren't very positive about the game.
This means:
The forum community does not represent the bulk of eve players so you're all irrelevent
OR it's true, the data really does not support that quality is more important than quantity.
OR something fishy this way comes
OR it really is the best online European game
OR <insert other option here. I ran out>
The forum trolls and their alt army just overestimate their influence. While it is certainly true, that EVE has issues with lag at the moment and CCP will focus mainly on new features for the time being instead reworking existing features, their portrayal of the situation is just laughable hyberbole. No point wasting time arguing with them when they intentionally misrepresent the situation for cheap lolz. It makes for entertaining threads I guess, but people who actually read Zulu's dev blog or do other things than just big fleet fights can see how overblown their rants are.
Come to 0.0. Come experience the ****ed up 'mechanics' we have to deal with. Then you can tell us it's a misinterpretation.
I laughed when you typed "instead of reworking existing features"--either you are implying that lag is a feature (lolCCP), or that we want some other feature "reworked". All we want is the lag fixed, pre Dominion it was fine, post Dominion it was ****. We just want CCP to un-**** their game.
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Nardman
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:43:00 -
[2458]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Nardman Anyone who thinks EvE is the best online game has their head up their ass (or simply hasn't experienced any of the severely broken mechanics by some streak of luck [or severe carebearness]).
...or has played other games and realizes that, broken mechanics and all, this is STILL the best online game...
No one who has experienced the detriments that Dominion caused would ever think EvE is the best online game. You come and experience it and see if you are still touting the same tune. THIS IS DOMINION! |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:46:00 -
[2459]
Originally by: Nardman
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Nardman Anyone who thinks EvE is the best online game has their head up their ass (or simply hasn't experienced any of the severely broken mechanics by some streak of luck [or severe carebearness]).
...or has played other games and realizes that, broken mechanics and all, this is STILL the best online game...
No one who has experienced the detriments that Dominion caused would ever think EvE is the best online game. You come and experience it and see if you are still touting the same tune.
I live in 0.0. I have experience lag in fleet fights - just like i experienced lagged in pretty much every online game I have ever played. And, despite the lag - despite the MANY other flaws - this is still the best, most complete, most engaging, most evolving MMOG I've ever played.
Now what? .
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Nardman
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:57:00 -
[2460]
Edited by: Nardman on 16/08/2010 09:00:30 Edited by: Nardman on 16/08/2010 09:00:04 Edited by: Nardman on 16/08/2010 08:59:50
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 08:47:34
Originally by: Nardman
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Nardman Anyone who thinks EvE is the best online game has their head up their ass (or simply hasn't experienced any of the severely broken mechanics by some streak of luck [or severe carebearness]).
...or has played other games and realizes that, broken mechanics and all, this is STILL the best online game...
No one who has experienced the detriments that Dominion caused would ever think EvE is the best online game. You come and experience it and see if you are still touting the same tune.
I live in 0.0. I have experienced lag in fleet fights - just like i experienced lagged in pretty much every online game I have ever played. And, despite the lag - despite the MANY other flaws - this is still the best, most complete, most engaging, most committed to evolving MMOG I've ever played.
Now what?
You've experienced jumping into a system, staring at a black screen for 3 hours, finally loading in a station in your pod--only to find your ship was destroyed 10 minutes after you clicked the "Jump" button? And you still think EvE is the best online game ever?
All I have to say is wow--and that you either have very low standards for entertainment or haven't played very many online games.
edit: And according to battleclinic and eve-kill you have 10 around lifetime kills, one of which was in 0.0. Either this is an alt your posting with or you don't really live in 0.0 THIS IS DOMINION! |
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.08.16 09:39:00 -
[2461]
Edited by: Tarasina on 16/08/2010 09:42:31 Edited by: Tarasina on 16/08/2010 09:41:35 Internet polls can't be trusted for anything.
Just take this as an example: Gabe Newell got 2nd place in Victorias Secrets most sexiest woman-competition, 4chan-leader was first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabe_Newell
Pretty face but...wouldn't pass for a woman where I am from :P
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/26/gabe-newell-booted-from-victorias-secret-contest/
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Vexion Daran
Gallente Templars of Space AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.08.16 13:02:00 -
[2462]
All these guys thinking their opinion is that of the world.
I loved seeing that EVE won that award...seems all you ****-stains are pretty much talkig to your self...maybe form an alliance of peeps crying about eve. Should be fun to see that happen.
But for real....congrats CCP for that award.
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:27:00 -
[2463]
Undeserved 'congrats' I guess.... -----------------------------------
Originally by: Kali Zero Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:42:00 -
[2464]
Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 14:41:51
Originally by: Nardman
You've experienced jumping into a system, staring at a black screen for 3 hours, finally loading in a station in your pod--only to find your ship was destroyed 10 minutes after you clicked the "Jump" button? And you still think EvE is the best online game ever?
All I have to say is wow--and that you either have very low standards for entertainment or haven't played very many online games.
Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
Originally by: Nardman edit: And according to battleclinic and eve-kill you have 10 around lifetime kills, one of which was in 0.0. Either this is an alt your posting with or you don't really live in 0.0
Confirming that everyone in EvE has one, single account and that this is the ONLY character I PvP with.
I post with this 2005 char as it's what most would consider my "main". My other chars would consider this char the "bread winner" that funds their PvP.
Again - now what? .
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:52:00 -
[2465]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch Unfortunately this just gives CCP more confidence to continue with business as usual.
EVE can be so much more, and I'm not even talking about add-ons. Just "quality of product" issues like bug fixes and feature enhancements.
QFT
This, it would be nice if the clueless people cheering for CCP and booing the dissatisfied customers trying to get CCP to take notice and do the right thing would take their heads out of their a*#3$.
IT isn't about FW/lag/lowsec those are just some of the more vocal people, if you ever bothered to check out the CSM you would see the laundry list X10 of stuff CCP isn't going to touch so they can make more new broken/gutted stuff. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members. |
bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.16 14:53:00 -
[2466]
The image of zeba and pesky reading the results and touching themselves while gloat-posting in this thread is strangely arousing.
Congrats CCP. Money talks, even weird Icelandic money that has Bjork's face all over it.
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Mark Raynor
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:43:00 -
[2467]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 14:41:51
Originally by: Nardman
You've experienced jumping into a system, staring at a black screen for 3 hours, finally loading in a station in your pod--only to find your ship was destroyed 10 minutes after you clicked the "Jump" button? And you still think EvE is the best online game ever?
All I have to say is wow--and that you either have very low standards for entertainment or haven't played very many online games.
Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
Originally by: Nardman edit: And according to battleclinic and eve-kill you have 10 around lifetime kills, one of which was in 0.0. Either this is an alt your posting with or you don't really live in 0.0
Confirming that everyone in EvE has one, single account and that this is the ONLY character I PvP with.
I post with this 2005 char as it's what most would consider my "main". My other chars would consider this char the "bread winner" that funds their PvP.
Again - now what?
The reason most null-sec residents keep harping on lag is that it wasn't a problem before Dominion dropped. Pre-Dominion, we could have massive fleet battles with hundreds and even thousands of players, and not experience crippling lag. Post-Dominion, even having a few hundred players in one system would lead to crushing lag, if not bringing down entire nodes. Hell, I've seen systems with only a bare handful - about two dozen - players in-system, scattered through the belts and anomalies and ratting, and still seen significant lag.
But I think it's not so much the lag that's the issue. It's that players had to practically picket CCP HQ to even get an acknowledgement of the problem. Add in the perception that the majority of developer resources are hung up on Incarna and Dust - neither of which the playerbase is entirely convinced are going to be "good" expansions - and nobody is working on fixing stuff like lag, or faction warfare, or low-sec, or whatever your pet issue is. And that, I think, is what is driving folks away, regardless of what the reality of the situation is.
Of course, going around and posting "yes, we're aware of the issue and are looking to work out a fix Soon(TM)" all over the boards won't help too much beyond the very short term, but hell, it'd be a start. ----
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Fournone
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:46:00 -
[2468]
Edited by: Fournone on 16/08/2010 15:47:11 Hahahahahaha...hahaha...ha, wait your serious? Heck no. When I get around to it, im voting for world of warcraft, even though I hate that game.
Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Nominated for most epic post of the year award. Heres a million isk for shear awesomenss.
Thread topic nominated for best troll of the year award.
VOTE NOW!!!
EDIT: Got over my CCP raeg and voted for eve, but due to severe spartial distorions, my vote won't be proccess for another 18 months.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:47:00 -
[2469]
I voted EVE for best EU MMO, and I won...
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JC Anderson
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:50:00 -
[2470]
Originally by: Ji Sama I voted EVE for best EU MMO, and I won...
I love Eve and its still the best MMO I have ever played.
The problem here is that the award was for TYRANNIS and not Eve in general. And that's where I truly believe they didn't deserve it. Not when you compare the expansion to the quality content they've put out pre-dominion.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:56:00 -
[2471]
Originally by: Mark Raynor
The reason most null-sec residents keep harping on lag is that it wasn't a problem before Dominion dropped. Pre-Dominion, we could have massive fleet battles with hundreds and even thousands of players, and not experience crippling lag. Post-Dominion, even having a few hundred players in one system would lead to crushing lag, if not bringing down entire nodes. Hell, I've seen systems with only a bare handful - about two dozen - players in-system, scattered through the belts and anomalies and ratting, and still seen significant lag.
But I think it's not so much the lag that's the issue. It's that players had to practically picket CCP HQ to even get an acknowledgement of the problem. Add in the perception that the majority of developer resources are hung up on Incarna and Dust - neither of which the playerbase is entirely convinced are going to be "good" expansions - and nobody is working on fixing stuff like lag, or faction warfare, or low-sec, or whatever your pet issue is. And that, I think, is what is driving folks away, regardless of what the reality of the situation is.
Of course, going around and posting "yes, we're aware of the issue and are looking to work out a fix Soon(TM)" all over the boards won't help too much beyond the very short term, but hell, it'd be a start.
Not sure anyone with any brains who has been in nullsec would argue against the lag (although, having an industrialist in high-sec makes me understand why those in Empire don't see the issue, as I almost never experience lag there) but if we can agree that there are many different elements to EvE - highsec, lowsec, nullsec, faction war, wormholes, carebear mission runners, pvp'ers, industrialists, and so on - then arguably the majority of facets of this game work as advertised. Sure, 0.0 fleet war is a HUGE part of the game and needs A LOT OF LOVE but that doesn't mean the rest of the game is broken and/or worthless.
And I agree with your last comment, but more threads like this will go a long way to help - IF they back up the blogs with the work. .
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.16 16:22:00 -
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Well CCP, You fluked it again i see. One thing that bothers me is how can anyone vote for a game that can't back up what it advertises?
This news of winning the award isnt good news at all. It means you are probably not going to fix this shambles of a game and continue to add more c.r.a.p until the game reaches an unplayable state, (it nearly is at that stage now tbh).
I hope you guys in CCP payed close attention to the comments in this thread and will act upon them. If not then its asta la vista baby.
The only thing that is keeping me in this game are my friends. The ball is in your court now CCP. WE WILL BE WATCHING...... ----------------------------------------
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Airpizza II
Amarr The Wretched.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 17:12:00 -
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EvE is the best online MMO I have ever played. But it has problems and this thread was a way of some players to vent their frustration. I didn't vote for CCP because I want them to fix the game as it stands before they add new stuff. I have no doubt they know the problems, I also have no doubt that it's in their best interest to do what they are doing with incarna etc, the vote success proves they are doing something right.
CCP please fix what we have asap.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It makes for entertaining threads I guess, but people who actually read Zulu's dev blog or do other things than just big fleet fights can see how overblown their rants are.
I know I had a blast hotdropping their posts left and right.
Also: Back up to the top big boy. Can't let this thread get below page one remember kids? Originally by: bitter vetiranarian The image of zeba and pesky reading the results and touching themselves while gloat-posting in this thread is strangely arousing.
Congrats CCP. Money talks, even weird Icelandic money that has Bjork's face all over it.
You seem to be laboring under the impression that this award will be actually seen by anyone who's own game forums did't link the site and so is worth gloating about.. It's simply some nub marketing site award noone cares about to drum up some creds for the EU game developers. Thats why this thread had no effect on the outcome. People read the first few pages of poasts and /facepalmed at the contents then went and voted for who they wanted.
The non-vocal majority of players have spoken.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 16/08/2010 19:42:19
All this award does is let CCP say "See, we dont have to listen to you and we can still win awards"...meh, whatever.
Ilharess Syn Callibri of the Scorpion Clan
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri Ummm Zeba, if the non-vocal majority of players have spoken...where does that make you?
I'm simply vocal. Call me a loose forum cannon if you wish.
Originally by: Syn Callibri All this award does is let CCP say "See, we dont have to listen to you and we can still win awards"...meh, whatever.
I'm sure that small knot of protesters outside a government/corporation office holding the signs with 'Save the blue prickle backed grasshopper from extinction! Vote no to the new factory/school/whatevah!' feel exactly the same way when they get ignored.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:00:00 -
[2477]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Syn Callibri Ummm Zeba, if the non-vocal majority of players have spoken...where does that make you?
I'm simply vocal. Call me a loose forum cannon if you wish.
Originally by: Syn Callibri All this award does is let CCP say "See, we dont have to listen to you and we can still win awards"...meh, whatever.
I'm sure that small knot of protesters outside a government/corporation office holding the signs with 'Save the blue prickle backed grasshopper from extinction! Vote no to the new factory/school/whatevah!' feel exactly the same way when they get ignored.
"Loose forum cannon".
Ilharess Syn Callibri of the Scorpion Clan
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Nardman
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 14:41:51
Originally by: Nardman
You've experienced jumping into a system, staring at a black screen for 3 hours, finally loading in a station in your pod--only to find your ship was destroyed 10 minutes after you clicked the "Jump" button? And you still think EvE is the best online game ever?
All I have to say is wow--and that you either have very low standards for entertainment or haven't played very many online games.
Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
Originally by: Nardman edit: And according to battleclinic and eve-kill you have 10 around lifetime kills, one of which was in 0.0. Either this is an alt your posting with or you don't really live in 0.0
Confirming that everyone in EvE has one, single account and that this is the ONLY character I PvP with.
I post with this 2005 char as it's what most would consider my "main". My other chars would consider this char the "bread winner" that funds their PvP.
Again - now what?
My point still stands, if you have experienced the above situation and still believe EvE is the BEST online game, you need to get out more (so to speak) or have extremely low standards. The situation I described above could be normal in a second rate online game, but it should not be normal in a game claiming it is the best of anything.
Who is your main? If you only post with your supposed "alt" I can only assume that it is your main and you don't really live in 0.0 and are in fact a care bear talking out of his ass. So for the sake of shutting me up, who is your main? THIS IS DOMINION! |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri "Loose forum cannon".
*bows eloquently*
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 21:07:42
Originally by: Nardman
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 14:41:51
Originally by: Nardman
You've experienced jumping into a system, staring at a black screen for 3 hours, finally loading in a station in your pod--only to find your ship was destroyed 10 minutes after you clicked the "Jump" button? And you still think EvE is the best online game ever?
All I have to say is wow--and that you either have very low standards for entertainment or haven't played very many online games.
Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
Originally by: Nardman edit: And according to battleclinic and eve-kill you have 10 around lifetime kills, one of which was in 0.0. Either this is an alt your posting with or you don't really live in 0.0
Confirming that everyone in EvE has one, single account and that this is the ONLY character I PvP with.
I post with this 2005 char as it's what most would consider my "main". My other chars would consider this char the "bread winner" that funds their PvP.
Again - now what?
My point still stands, if you have experienced the above situation and still believe EvE is the BEST online game, you need to get out more (so to speak) or have extremely low standards. The situation I described above could be normal in a second rate online game, but it should not be normal in a game claiming it is the best of anything.
So, which MMOG is better than this? That's the crux of this, NOT the current state of EvE online.
Originally by: Nardman Who is your main? If you only post with your supposed "alt" I can only assume that it is your main and you don't really live in 0.0 and are in fact a care bear talking out of his ass. So for the sake of shutting me up, who is your main?
LOL - since when is it common and reasonable practice to provide intell to ANYONE in EvE that you don't have to? And more, why do i have to prove ANYTHING to you? Forum Nobody #471 wants to question Forum Nobody #228's opinion of the game and demands to know all of Forum Nobody #228's accounts to establish his credentials? Grow up.
I post with one and only one character (one of three "mains", for what it's worth) because this is the account I've always posted with, and because I'm not a huge fan of alt-posting to make a point or back up another post you've made on another char. If you choose to believe I'm a "care bear talking out of [my] ass", it bothers me not one jot, and it also doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
And for what it's worth - I'm a HORRIBLE pvp'er - I lose more ships due to stupidity, distraction, dog-aggro, gf-aggro and child-aggro than I lose to enemy skills - but guess what? that STILL doesn't change a damn thing about what I've said.
Now, stop waving your epeen around like a true Tardman and focus on the only relevant question - even in it's current state, which game is a better, more complete MMOG than EvE?
And why aren't you playing that, if this is such a godawful mess?
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue even in it's current state, which game is a better, more complete MMOG than EvE?
Pong-online!
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Pesky LaRue even in it's current state, which game is a better, more complete MMOG than EvE?
Pong-online!
Is that the new name for WoT? :P .
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba You seem to be laboring under the impression that this award will be actually seen by anyone who's own game forums did't link the site and so is worth gloating about.. It's simply some nub marketing site award noone cares about to drum up some creds for the EU game developers. Thats why this thread had no effect on the outcome. People read the first few pages of poasts and /facepalmed at the contents then went and voted for who they wanted.
The non-vocal majority of players have spoken.
no i'm labouring under the impression that I'm turned on by thinking about you stroking it while "pwning" the non-fanbois.
Take me you wild stallion!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.16 21:27:00 -
[2484]
Edited by: Zeba on 16/08/2010 21:35:31
Originally by: bitter vetiranarian
Originally by: Zeba You seem to be laboring under the impression that this award will be actually seen by anyone who's own game forums did't link the site and so is worth gloating about.. It's simply some nub marketing site award noone cares about to drum up some creds for the EU game developers. Thats why this thread had no effect on the outcome. People read the first few pages of poasts and /facepalmed at the contents then went and voted for who they wanted.
The non-vocal majority of players have spoken.
no i'm labouring under the impression that I'm turned on by thinking about you stroking it while "pwning" the non-fanbois.
Take me you wild stallion!
edit; also its no fun if they are willing..
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
P : ½ My car don't want move ! + CCP : ½ Well, if you saw the Lada, it can be worse you know... After all, you have the climatisation, the radio/cd, video playing for passagers, and even Internet ! It is the best car around ! P : ½ I don't care of that (or I already check all of it with some friends), I want a car to ****ING MOVE, it has been ADVERTISED to do it ! CCP : ½ Unfortunaly, data don't seem confirm that moving is what the customers expect from a car. + P : ½ You're serious ? +
_______ With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have. - John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:19:00 -
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When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Nardman
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 21:07:42 So, which MMOG is better than this? That's the crux of this, NOT the current state of EvE online.
LOL - since when is it common and reasonable practice to provide intell to ANYONE in EvE that you don't have to? And more, why do i have to prove ANYTHING to you? Forum Nobody #471 wants to question Forum Nobody #228's opinion of the game and demands to know all of Forum Nobody #228's accounts to establish his credentials? Grow up.
I post with one and only one character (one of three "mains", for what it's worth) because this is the account I've always posted with, and because I'm not a huge fan of alt-posting to make a point or back up another post you've made on another char. If you choose to believe I'm a "care bear talking out of [my] ass", it bothers me not one jot, and it also doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
And for what it's worth - I'm a HORRIBLE pvp'er - I lose more ships due to stupidity, distraction, dog-aggro, gf-aggro and child-aggro than I lose to enemy skills - but guess what? that STILL doesn't change a damn thing about what I've said.
Now, stop waving your epeen around like a true Tardman and focus on the only relevant question - even in it's current state, which game is a better, more complete MMOG than EvE?
And why aren't you playing that, if this is such a godawful mess?
As I figured. Your arguments are baseless--I don't care that it doesn't bother you that I think you're an Empire hugger that doesn't know what he's talking about, but it's good to know the posts you've made on this subject don't mean a thing. I'm still playing this game in hopes that it will get better considering the time invested in it. THIS IS DOMINION! |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nardman
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 16/08/2010 21:07:42 So, which MMOG is better than this? That's the crux of this, NOT the current state of EvE online.
LOL - since when is it common and reasonable practice to provide intell to ANYONE in EvE that you don't have to? And more, why do i have to prove ANYTHING to you? Forum Nobody #471 wants to question Forum Nobody #228's opinion of the game and demands to know all of Forum Nobody #228's accounts to establish his credentials? Grow up.
I post with one and only one character (one of three "mains", for what it's worth) because this is the account I've always posted with, and because I'm not a huge fan of alt-posting to make a point or back up another post you've made on another char. If you choose to believe I'm a "care bear talking out of [my] ass", it bothers me not one jot, and it also doesn't invalidate anything I've said.
And for what it's worth - I'm a HORRIBLE pvp'er - I lose more ships due to stupidity, distraction, dog-aggro, gf-aggro and child-aggro than I lose to enemy skills - but guess what? that STILL doesn't change a damn thing about what I've said.
Now, stop waving your epeen around like a true Tardman and focus on the only relevant question - even in it's current state, which game is a better, more complete MMOG than EvE?
And why aren't you playing that, if this is such a godawful mess?
As I figured. Your arguments are baseless--I don't care that it doesn't bother you that I think you're an Empire hugger that doesn't know what he's talking about, but it's good to know the posts you've made on this subject don't mean a thing. I'm still playing this game in hopes that it will get better considering the time invested in it.
Ok, you tumbled me. I've never left highsec, I spend my days running endless L4's in a marauder.
Now - seems your own argument has run out of steam. You're paying to play this even though you're not happy on the hope that it'll get better? You don't agree it's the best game on the market (or are you reversing position on that now?) but it's the one you choose to play?
So you'd keep buying food you were unhappy with on the premise the chef might get better?
Heh. Tell me again whose arguments are baseless? .
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Marshal
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Yep, been there and it's extremely frustrating - just like when I played SWG and about 60 of us managed to crash the whole server by PvPing. Just like when I played any other game that had lag.
But, if you could see beyond your self-important blobbing, maybe you'd realise that - lag or not - EvE is the richest, deepest MMOG to date. As I keep saying, it has massive flaws, but it is STILL better than it's competition.
If it isn't, why are you still here playing? If it isn't, which game IS better?
P : ½ My car don't want move ! + CCP : ½ Well, if you saw the Lada, it can be worse you know... After all, you have the climatisation, the radio/cd, video playing for passagers, and even Internet ! It is the best car around ! P : ½ I don't care of that (or I already check all of it with some friends), I want a car to ****ING MOVE, it has been ADVERTISED to do it ! CCP : ½ Unfortunaly, data don't seem confirm that moving is what the customers expect from a car. + P : ½ You're serious ? +
The flaw in this argument is that if I was as unhappy with EvE as all the emo-ragers out there, I would have quit long ago. Like I quit SWG when they screwed the pooch. I don't pay for things I don't like. Pretty simple, really. .
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.16 22:49:00 -
[2490]
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 16/08/2010 22:55:34
Originally by: Pesky LaRue The flaw in this argument is that if I was as unhappy with EvE as all the emo-ragers out there, I would have quit long ago. Like I quit SWG when they screwed the pooch. I don't pay for things I don't like. Pretty simple, really.
Do you leave your country when you disagree with your president ?
Ok, more seriously, it is not so easy to leave when you made some good connections with players of your corporation, etc... It requires time. I will probably leave within the next 3 months, but as always, it is not certain. At least, I already reduced the number of accounts I have in Eve, and I discourage friends and contacts to go into Eve.
Also, we saw that Eve can be correct, with Apocrypha. So there was hope that CCP could correct it. But time passes and there is still no correction of this issue, nor about the issue who can be correct within minutes like Rockets, and the "18 months" information is not a good news. This is why I didn't vote for Eve.
CCP should change a few their developement tactic. At least, for balancing and lag issues. Small patches to correct rockets, to upgrade shield or anything like this could be a great improvement. The big expansion tactic can stay but is annoying for this, as you have to wait and hope, and because of this tactic, CCP has no will to correct balancing issues as they prefer add new "features". _______ With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have. - John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment |
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.17 00:00:00 -
[2491]
Originally by: Sky Marshal Do you leave your country when you disagree with your president ?
Ok, more seriously, it is not so easy to leave when you made some good connections with players of your corporation, etc... It requires time. I will probably leave within the next 3 months, but as always, it is not certain. At least, I already reduced the number of accounts I have in Eve, and I discourage friends and contacts to go into Eve.
Also, we saw that Eve can be correct, with Apocrypha. So there was hope that CCP could correct it. But time passes and there is still no correction of this issue, nor about the issues who can be corrected within minutes like Rockets, and the "18 months" information is not a good news. This is why I didn't vote for Eve.
CCP should change a few their development tactic. At least, for balancing and lag issues. Small patches to correct rockets, to upgrade shield or anything like this could be a great improvement. The big expansion tactic can stay but is annoying for this, as you have to wait and hope, and because of this tactic, CCP has no will to correct balancing issues as they prefer add new "features".
I have no argument with anything you're saying, my argument is with the "I'm paying for this game but i'm so upset and angst ridden that it isn't flawless that I'm going to cry and stamp my feet and weep like a child and rend my hair and hold my breath until I'm sick" crowd. The game isn't perfect. No game is. It's being worked on (slowly, admittedly, but it is what it is).
I never want to see any game I'm playing lose subscriptions but given the amount of pathetically emo-nonsense posted here - by people who CONTINUE to pay for what they call a substandard product - I'm constantly curious as to why they stay. If a game made me cry as much as some of the posters, I absolutely would not continue to pay the publishers (thereby tacitly showing your support for them).
But, whatever. Each to their own, I guess. .
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.17 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue The game isn't perfect. No game is.
Kind of like BP saying no oil rig is perfect.
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Lemmy Kravitz
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Posted - 2010.08.17 02:17:00 -
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my 2 cents. meh, eve doesn't not deserve the games award this go around. atm Eve just performance wise has alot of issues. as space combat goes... I find the mechanics of STO far more exciting. unfortunatly for STO I can't take people's **** when they die. So i'm still stuck with eve.
I think this new Mail system they implemeented is what is causing alot of the lag. It's just a wild guess, but idk.. it just feels like it chugs the system when you access your box. but that's neither here nor there. Eve atm has some glaring lag issues, no dual monitor support, and various other technical problems. Not to mention Gameplay/Balance issues that still need to be resolved. i.e. the whole AFK clockie issue, various pvp balancing issues. Rockets and standard missles, did I mention no Dual monitor support? eh really bad lag when it wasn't very laggy at all when I first started. No Assault Destroyers. Bounty system needs to be looked at hard. em... rebalancing of the drops still needs to be looked at, or tweeking the whole mining thing. idk.. there is just too many things that are wrong with eve atm, that need to be looked at and fixed.
i understand CCP's need to diversify their product line and grab bigger market shares. But doing it in such a wy that the flagship feels like it's on a back burner isn't going to get you votes. I haven't heard anything about still having a team of devs crunching away on fixes for Eve. meh.. hopefully incarna and Dust will release smoothly, and or also come out with a couple of good patches for eve after release.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.17 02:20:00 -
[2494]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Sky Marshal Do you leave your country when you disagree with your president ?
Ok, more seriously, it is not so easy to leave when you made some good connections with players of your corporation, etc... It requires time. I will probably leave within the next 3 months, but as always, it is not certain. At least, I already reduced the number of accounts I have in Eve, and I discourage friends and contacts to go into Eve.
Also, we saw that Eve can be correct, with Apocrypha. So there was hope that CCP could correct it. But time passes and there is still no correction of this issue, nor about the issues who can be corrected within minutes like Rockets, and the "18 months" information is not a good news. This is why I didn't vote for Eve.
CCP should change a few their development tactic. At least, for balancing and lag issues. Small patches to correct rockets, to upgrade shield or anything like this could be a great improvement. The big expansion tactic can stay but is annoying for this, as you have to wait and hope, and because of this tactic, CCP has no will to correct balancing issues as they prefer add new "features".
I have no argument with anything you're saying, my argument is with the "I'm paying for this game but i'm so upset and angst ridden that it isn't flawless that I'm going to cry and stamp my feet and weep like a child and rend my hair and hold my breath until I'm sick" crowd. The game isn't perfect. No game is. It's being worked on (slowly, admittedly, but it is what it is).
I never want to see any game I'm playing lose subscriptions but given the amount of pathetically emo-nonsense posted here - by people who CONTINUE to pay for what they call a substandard product - I'm constantly curious as to why they stay. If a game made me cry as much as some of the posters, I absolutely would not continue to pay the publishers (thereby tacitly showing your support for them).
But, whatever. Each to their own, I guess.
I simply pay for the game by ripping off new players This allows me to do two things: 1. Lower the tone and content of systems I inhabit and the boards I frequent for free (in other words decreasing the quality of the player experience for others - butterfly effect) 2. Ensure that I am doing my part actively to ensure that CCP's endevours in creating new content to attract new players are being somewhat blunted by killing off new players.
CCP are too dumb to realize that the 300mil a month I trade in for a plex (that some one else has paid rl money for) means there are 2 possibly 3 new accounts that have left eve with a sour taste in their mouths.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.17 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
I simply pay for the game by ripping off new players This allows me to do two things: 1. Lower the tone and content of systems I inhabit and the boards I frequent for free (in other words decreasing the quality of the player experience for others - butterfly effect) 2. Ensure that I am doing my part actively to ensure that CCP's endevours in creating new content to attract new players are being somewhat blunted by killing off new players.
CCP are too dumb to realize that the 300mil a month I trade in for a plex (that some one else has paid rl money for) means there are 2 possibly 3 new accounts that have left eve with a sour taste in their mouths.
I liked you better when you didn't have a face.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.17 02:48:00 -
[2496]
Originally by: Sajad
I liked you better when you didn't have a face.
Yes I to liked myself better when I wasnt forced to see the effects my alcohol addiction has had to my appearance.
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.17 02:56:00 -
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Looks like from the overwhelming echo (CCP thanking customers for voting or something?) really noone cares much about who won that award. Still epic lulz that crappy Tyrannis of all expansions got that one. Well, at least wasn't Dominion. Guess the competitors didn't want to fork over enough RL money... Or didn't bother to alienate their customers with a certain forum post like...
Quote:
[...] The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game! [...]
Which in addition to being received as a bit offensive, is just plain wrong. Good job spin-doctoring there, Zymurgist! Telling people in your initial post to vote for EVE, instead of "just for Tyrannis" which was the matter in question... So congrats for blatantly telling half-truths (or even lying) to your customers and not only getting away with it but actually scoring! Makes one wonder how low CCP's standards will sink in the future. Well, your credibility is down the gutter now with me... for like 18 months at least.
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.08.17 03:00:00 -
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.17 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mr M
Bonus points for originality.
The irony in posting that picture is that the simpson's is a tried and true show that spent decades refining and perfecting content to the point where a simple ha-ha with a boy point is a universally recognised symbol of Nelson laughing at others misfortune.
The only tried and true content from CCP is lag.
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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.08.17 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666 the simpson's is a tried and true show that spent decades refining and perfecting content
tried and true show that spent decades refining that spent decades refining spent decades
Eve Tribune|EVEgeek|Firebrand Radio |
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.17 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mr M
I endorse this sentiment.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.17 07:39:00 -
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bump
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Xroxreariad Ramatarapap
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Posted - 2010.08.17 07:41:00 -
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Fact that after all EVE has been easily voted for best European online game shows once again how insignificantly small is this part of playerbase which created all the drama in this thread.
Ha-ha indeed.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.08.17 11:58:00 -
[2504]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 17/08/2010 11:59:04
Originally by: Xroxreariad Ramatarapap Fact that after all EVE has been easily voted for best European online game shows once again how insignificantly small is this part of playerbase which created all the drama in this thread.
Ha-ha indeed.
This looks like an hymn to the sheep.
I hope the PvP lag will be solved, I have played other MMOs that slowly (sometimes quickly) lost 90% of their player base because of similar factors.
The old players are the glue of the game, without them there would not be an hardened-across-years ties to keep people together. Old players naturally tend to join the end game and they are aggregators for others. If one of them leaves, they tend to have influence on others. Now, if EvE was newbie friendly, the turn over would counter this effect, but EvE is not. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Lahari
Novatech Armada Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lahari on 17/08/2010 13:17:07 So pages and pages of people complaining about the lag. Saying CCP is doing nothing. This is in spite of many dev blogs and Facebook updates and other announcements all along detailing their efforts on the lag issue.
All those calls for people to join test server for large fleet tests. The details over a new tool they have for working on the lag.
Yes its an issue, yes CCP is aware. And yes, seems this thread got some attention out there. However, guess what?!
http://www.european-games-award.com/
Eve still won.
So congratulations CCP from Novatech Armada And this is from us to all you whiners. http://theuglydance.com/?v=gserxguac4
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:18:00 -
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The last few pages are all about that, Lahari.
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Lahari
Novatech Armada Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula The last few pages are all about that, Lahari.
I know. I just wanted to add another post showing our congrats. Not like I have been reading all eighty something pages of this stuff :)
It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.
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mickeydilab1
GeoCorp. -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula The last few pages are all about that, Lahari.
But who can be asked to read 83 pages, most of it being noobs whining about lag and how apparently ccp aren't doing anything.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lahari It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.
Agreed.
Just to gloat a little myself, here's a prophecy of mine back on page 78.
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
However, I'd like you all to refrain from becoming my followers and treating me like divinity, and instead send me monies as a sign of your reverence.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
salabeth
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:35:00 -
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This award is just fluff for them.. Kind of like the last expansion and the next.. All fluff and no real content.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Lahari It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.
Agreed.
Just to gloat a little myself, here's a prophecy of mine back on page 78.
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
However, I'd like you all to refrain from becoming my followers and treating me like divinity, and instead send me monies as a sign of your reverence.
Wait! What happened to the community outrage?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Wait! What happened to the community outrage?
It certainly stoked the fires again, but with such a peak at the beginning it does pale in comparison a little. All the really angry people either had a brain aneurysm or quit by now.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
JC Anderson
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:47:00 -
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My own annoyances aside...
I am curious if any of the MMO news sites that reported that Eve is dying and the majority of the playerbase is furious with CCP will do a followup story.
And how they would spin it.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.17 13:56:00 -
[2514]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Lahari It was also a great chance to drop that uglydance link.
Agreed.
Just to gloat a little myself, here's a prophecy of mine back on page 78.
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Watch them win, and cause an even larger community outrage.
However, I'd like you all to refrain from becoming my followers and treating me like divinity, and instead send me monies as a sign of your reverence.
<bows reverantly> You are a wise man Professor T., a wise and enlightened man.
Ilharess Syn Callibri of the Scorpion Clan
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.17 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Pesky LaRue The game isn't perfect. No game is.
Kind of like BP saying no oil rig is perfect.
Intel is without question the safest company in their industry and yet they still have accidents. So you should boycott your own computer.
Oh yeah, and if you hadn't heard, EvE won.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.17 14:34:00 -
[2516]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Zeba Wait! What happened to the community outrage?
It certainly stoked the fires again, but with such a peak at the beginning it does pale in comparison a little. All the really angry people either had a brain aneurysm or quit by now.
Sounds like a win on all fronts then. Eve gets a well justified award,(provided you don't do fleet fights ;p) the forums get a bit quiter and people who get angry in real life over a game can cool off and get some perspective.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Jasmin Soulscream
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.17 18:37:00 -
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unfriendly bump
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.17 21:13:00 -
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I voted
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.17 22:50:00 -
[2519]
I to voted. For something other than eve - cant even remember what i voted for.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.18 00:15:00 -
[2520]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Pesky LaRue The game isn't perfect. No game is.
Kind of like BP saying no oil rig is perfect.
Intel is without question the safest company in their industry and yet they still have accidents. So you should boycott your own computer.
Oh yeah, and if you hadn't heard, EvE won.
I don't need to boycott my computer. I don't use Intel.
Oh yeah, and you should boycott your face.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.18 00:18:00 -
[2521]
Originally by: Sajad
Oh yeah, and you should boycott your face.
That would have to be the funniest post i have read on this forums thus far.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.18 00:24:00 -
[2522]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Oh yeah, and if you hadn't heard, EvE won.
In a 'World' series of baseball kinda way.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.18 00:52:00 -
[2523]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Oh yeah, and if you hadn't heard, EvE won.
In a 'World' series of baseball kinda way.
What by ignoring salary caps and having the highest payroll?
Eve won by lack of competition. And Apologetic fan bois
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.18 02:15:00 -
[2524]
I am pretty sure CCP padded some pockets to win anything besides best fail.
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Spankable Delight
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Posted - 2010.08.18 02:19:00 -
[2525]
Originally by: alittlebirdy I am pretty sure CCP padded some pockets to win anything besides best fail.
yeah, that must be it.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.18 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 04:15:52 Nothing more amusing that watching the emo crowd scramble to find the "real" reason as to why the gaming community as a whole not only disagrees with them, but eloquently shows them just how much of a vocal (some would say hysterical) minority they actually are.
Quite understandable though. Anyone would make excuses when made a laughing stock of in such a resounding fashion.
Not to worry though, I'm sure a seat will be saved for you on the next over-reactionary bandwagon.
Please, keep those "unfriendly" bumps coming. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.18 04:32:00 -
[2527]
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 04:15:52 the gaming community as a whole not only disagrees with them
Ah, I see you're now on to the Simply Making Stuff Up portion of the discussion. We have absolutely no information, at all, on how the community "as a whole" feels. We don't even have reliable statistics as to how many people voted for the award, let alone how many of those actually had distinct IP addresses; online voting is notoriously open to gaming.
And the "disagreements" are a series of trolls. There is simply no honest argument that EVE is not substantially broken. "CCP said that they wouldn't be polishing any features for at least 18 months and..." "You're trolling!!!" "No, CCP really said that. It's on the public record and..." "Noooooooooo! They are fixing lag, they said so!" "No. After a lot of negative publicity they gave out some vague pablum about how they were putting ZOMGMIT PHD's on it and what not, but fleet fights are the same state they've been in since CCP broke EVE with Dominion and..." "There is no lag!!!" "Okay, well then you must not live in 0.0 and..." "I do tooooooooooo!" "Well, checking your character we can all see you've never PvP'd a day in your life and..." "It's a super seeekrit main account that I won't tell anybody but honestly it's real and I didn't just make it up." "Okay. Well, anyways, 0.0 is broken and it's the content that CCP advertises as the draw for the game and..." "Noooooooooooo! Only 2% of players are actually in 0.0 space, a snapshot of where chars are said so!" "Well, no, actually. Almost every 0.0 player has an alt or two (or three) in Empire, so that raw snapshot doesn't really tell us much and..." "Ayieeeeeeeeeeeee! I love EVE, like a woman, a naked, ready, willing woman the likes of which I have never seen in real life! Do not besmirch her ehonour, u am bad!!!"
If you can't train a useful weapon system in game, you can at least troll the forums I guess.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.08.18 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 04:15:52 the gaming community as a whole not only disagrees with them
Bitter, bitter tears.
No we don't have the exact information, so why are you trying to make excuses for the win? Similar accusations could just as easily be thrown against the whiner brigade. So unless someone proves otherwise, it was a clean win for CCP.
EVE isn't substantially broken by any stretch of the imagination. There is performance degredation that limits fleetfights compared to an earlier situation, minor balance issues and several features could use polish. The game and the features still work mainly just fine and better in some situations, since CCP has provided new features and made performance improvements on them. The fact you have gotten yourself riled up and angry about the existing flaws doesn't mean the game as a whole is substantially broken. It amazes me that you can claim otherwise with a serious face and think you aren't being a hysterical whiner.
That is why we consider some of the whiners a hysterical minority and sheep who just jumped on a passing bandwagon. There is a group of people who bring out the same issues and problems without flaming or hysterical hyberboles. These people are the ones we need more and I have no beef with them. The angry vocal monkeys who just flame, bash and troll in every other thread about how CCP sucks, EVE is broken and devs are incompetent or don't care, are not wanted or needed and should not be tolerated.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.18 05:14:00 -
[2529]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 04:15:52 the gaming community as a whole not only disagrees with them
Ah, I see you're now on to the Simply Making Stuff Up portion of the discussion. We have absolutely no information, at all, on how the community "as a whole" feels. We don't even have reliable statistics as to how many people voted for the award, let alone how many of those actually had distinct IP addresses; online voting is notoriously open to gaming.
And the "disagreements" are a series of trolls. There is simply no honest argument that EVE is not substantially broken. "CCP said that they wouldn't be polishing any features for at least 18 months and..." "You're trolling!!!" "No, CCP really said that. It's on the public record and..." "Noooooooooo! They are fixing lag, they said so!" "No. After a lot of negative publicity they gave out some vague pablum about how they were putting ZOMGMIT PHD's on it and what not, but fleet fights are the same state they've been in since CCP broke EVE with Dominion and..." "There is no lag!!!" "Okay, well then you must not live in 0.0 and..." "I do tooooooooooo!" "Well, checking your character we can all see you've never PvP'd a day in your life and..." "It's a super seeekrit main account that I won't tell anybody but honestly it's real and I didn't just make it up." "Okay. Well, anyways, 0.0 is broken and it's the content that CCP advertises as the draw for the game and..." "Noooooooooooo! Only 2% of players are actually in 0.0 space, a snapshot of where chars are said so!" "Well, no, actually. Almost every 0.0 player has an alt or two (or three) in Empire, so that raw snapshot doesn't really tell us much and..." "Ayieeeeeeeeeeeee! I love EVE, like a woman, a naked, ready, willing woman the likes of which I have never seen in real life! Do not besmirch her ehonour, u am bad!!!"
If you can't train a useful weapon system in game, you can at least troll the forums I guess.
Lets touch on the more amusing parts for now.
1: Apparently claiming that the European Gaming awards are fixed, based on absolutely nothing, is less "making something up" than looking at the long list of awards that CCP has won... including this one of course.
2: Nobody has denied that EVE (like any other game) has issues and could use some polish. In particular large fleet lag needs a fix badly (and of course, this continues to be a major focus for CCP). Fortunately, the rest of EVE functions pretty well. I suppose for the simple minded it's easy to ignore that.
3: Oh, and as to this gem...
Quote: "Well, checking your character we can all see you've never PvP'd a day in your life and..."
This is my main... which happens to be focused on industry... which also has better kill board stats than you... about a third of which were attained in 1000+ fleet fights with MM during the MAX campaign... when your alliance lost it's space... and we won it back for you.
Shall I tear apart the rest of your post, or are you done for now?
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.18 05:34:00 -
[2530]
Originally by: Ranger 1 1: Apparently claiming that the European Gaming awards are fixed, based on absolutely nothing, is less "making something up" than looking at the long list of awards that CCP has won... including this one of course.
I see. When caught making stuff up, your response is to keep making stuff up. Of course, anybody can read what I wrote and see that you're simply lying and I never made any such claim, but pointed out that absent valid information we simply cannot know what the reality behind the raw numbers (which we also do not have access to) is. Poor troll on that point.
Originally by: Ranger 1
2: Nobody has denied that EVE (like any other game) has issues and could use some polish. [...] Fortunately, the rest of EVE functions pretty well. I suppose for the simple minded it's easy to ignore that.
Poor troll there too. Having thousands of players stuck on black screens, for hours, with the actual game being unplayable is just an "issue that can use some polish". The content that CCP uses to advertise the game being physically impossible to engage in? Ah well. But the rest of EVE functions pretty well (except, of course, it doesn't). So let's ignore the fact that the core mechanics are broken. If you buy a car that won't drive it's okay if you have a really neat cup holder.
Originally by: Ranger 1
This is my main [...] when your alliance lost it's space... and we won it back for you.
The urge to troll for you is evidently really, really strong, but you're horrible at it. Can you point to me, anywhere, saying that you in particular don't PvP? You can't, you made that up too, eh? Don't worry, you can troll better sooner or later. Bonus point on you for taking out your epeen and furiously waving it all around.
P.S. You really, really should stop making things up, people will be able to spot it and it just makes you look silly. You're honestly now claiming that RZR lost its space during MAX.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Shall I tear apart the rest of your post, or are you done for now?
Seeing as you haven't started "tearing apart" anything other than your ability to relate facts honestly, I think you might want to try before puffing up and strutting. Just a thought.
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
No
Ah, thank you for pointing out another bit of trolling that gets engaged in.
"X, Y and Z are the objective metrics we can use to analyze which elements of EVE are broken and not functioning properly, thereby limiting key areas of the game in a manner that is unacceptable. The sum total of the flaws render the game, as a whole, broken." "Cry more you're a hysterical whiner!!!"
Anyways, onwards:
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
why are you trying to make excuses for the win? So unless someone proves otherwise, it was a clean win for CCP.
No, this is an absurdity. The correct answer is that we simply do not know, and do not have the information to come to a conclusion. Those who are trying to sell something are pretending to hold a degree of certainty that is physically impossible. Go figure.
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The angry vocal monkeys who just flame, bash and troll in every other thread
You're not aware of the definition of "irony", are you?
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.08.18 05:34:00 -
[2531]
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 05:19:53
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 18/08/2010 04:15:52 the gaming community as a whole not only disagrees with them
Ah, I see you're now on to the Simply Making Stuff Up portion of the discussion. We have absolutely no information, at all, on how the community "as a whole" feels. We don't even have reliable statistics as to how many people voted for the award, let alone how many of those actually had distinct IP addresses; online voting is notoriously open to gaming.
And the "disagreements" are a series of trolls. There is simply no honest argument that EVE is not substantially broken. "CCP said that they wouldn't be polishing any features for at least 18 months and..." "You're trolling!!!" "No, CCP really said that. It's on the public record and..." "Noooooooooo! They are fixing lag, they said so!" "No. After a lot of negative publicity they gave out some vague pablum about how they were putting ZOMGMIT PHD's on it and what not, but fleet fights are the same state they've been in since CCP broke EVE with Dominion and..." "There is no lag!!!" "Okay, well then you must not live in 0.0 and..." "I do tooooooooooo!" "Well, checking your character we can all see you've never PvP'd a day in your life and..." "It's a super seeekrit main account that I won't tell anybody but honestly it's real and I didn't just make it up." "Okay. Well, anyways, 0.0 is broken and it's the content that CCP advertises as the draw for the game and..." "Noooooooooooo! Only 2% of players are actually in 0.0 space, a snapshot of where chars are said so!" "Well, no, actually. Almost every 0.0 player has an alt or two (or three) in Empire, so that raw snapshot doesn't really tell us much and..." "Ayieeeeeeeeeeeee! I love EVE, like a woman, a naked, ready, willing woman the likes of which I have never seen in real life! Do not besmirch her ehonour, u am bad!!!"
If you can't train a useful weapon system in game, you can at least troll the forums I guess.
Lets touch on the more amusing parts for now.
1: Apparently claiming that the European Gaming awards are fixed, based on absolutely nothing, is less "making something up" than looking at the long list of awards that CCP has won... including this one of course.
2: Nobody has denied that EVE (like any other game) has issues and could use some polish. In particular large fleet lag needs a fix badly (and of course, this continues to be a non-existant focus for CCP). Fortunately, the rest of EVE functions pretty well. I suppose for the people who play a game in which fleet fights are the primary advertising point it's easy to ignore the other parts of them game which they don't need to play which makes sense.
3: Oh, and as to this gem...
Quote: "Well, checking your character we can all see you've never PvP'd a day in your life and..."
This is my main... which happens to be focused on industry... which also has better kill board stats than you... a fair portion of which were attained in 1000+ fleet fights with MM during the MAX campaign... when your alliance lost it's space... and we won it back for you.
Shall I tear apart the rest of your post, or are you done for now?
Fixed*
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.18 06:12:00 -
[2532]
Keep trying Finn, you're starting to get the hang of it.
You need to do a little less of the "well I said this, but I actually meant that" and the "but I never specifically directed those insults a YOU in my response to your post" flailing about, and more of the "So let's ignore the fact that the core mechanics are broken. If you buy a car that won't drive it's okay if you have a really neat cup holder." meme's. At least those have been given enough lip service that the rest of the emo herd will buy into it.
Simply put, your analogy is backwards. The car works fine. It drives well, the stereo works, and it passes inspection. Unfortunately the cup holder is broken and on occasion that proves to be an annoyance. You and yourdoingitwrong can hold each other and weep softly about how large fleet battles are your life, but for the rest of us it's an annoyance at best.
By the way, making statements like...
Quote: We don't even have reliable statistics as to how many people voted for the award, let alone how many of those actually had distinct IP addresses; online voting is notoriously open to gaming.
... is indeed insinuating that the award is invalid because it could have been manipulated.
And stating that we Quote: we simply cannot know what the reality behind the raw numbers (which we also do not have access to)
is frankly pretty feeble. In effect you attempt to invalidate a legitimate, unbiased award because they didn't provide a data dump for you to analyze.
Wow.
The gaming community cast its vote, as they have done numerous times in the past (I suppose all of those other awards were "gamed" as well) and has yet again decided that despite it warts EVE is one of the best online games out there. Claiming that it "doesn't count" because it makes you look somewhat silly is lame at best. Sorry if popular opinion doesn't support your view of the game. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.18 06:29:00 -
[2533]
Edited by: Zeba on 18/08/2010 06:32:10
Poor Finn. He got the 'Node in MO-YDG just died' thread locked for excessive trolling and is getting steady pwnd in this one by Ranger 1.
Oh the hugemanatee..
*kicks back and lets the second string deal with the third rate trolls*
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.18 08:48:00 -
[2534]
Originally by: Zeba Finn. He got the 'Node in MO-YDG just died' thread locked for excessive trolling
You and I both know you're just trolling. We both know that I'm not about to feed you and you'll try to find other people who'll take you seriously so you can try to **** them off instead.
But I would like to point out that you're, rather predictably, lying in order to troll. That thread was locked for excessive trolling, because you were trolling it. I posted to it, one single time. If my post was objectionable, it would have been edited by a mod. It wasn't.
Lie/troll better and maybe you'll be able to annoy folks. Adios.
Originally by: Ranger 1
You need to do a little less of the "well I said this, but I actually meant that"
Well, that'll be easy as you were lying and making stuff up when my actual words are still in the thread, unedited. Really, you're not even a very good troll.
Likewise, stop lying. You claimed that the gaming community, "as a whole" disagreed with something. I pointed out what the pattern was for those disagreements (disagreements that are voiced by a few posters here, mostly trolls, but I know you like to pretend that you have statistical data and know who's a majority and whatnot). Now you'd like to pretend that it was really about you, in specific.
Honestly, stop trolling and try to discuss this issue honestly. You might even like it.
Originally by: Ranger 1
Simply put, your analogy is backwards.
No, seriously, stop trolling. The core content of a PvP game that's advertised as having the 'end-game' content be player-created empires is, rather obviously, PvP. PvP in EVE is broken by any honest appraisal of the situation.
You can pretend that a PvP game having sporadically-working PvP doesn't mean it's broken, but that's about as convincing as arguing that if much of the time you tried to shoot someone in Team Fortress II your system crashed and required a hard reboot... but you could still have the engineer set up turrets so really it's not broken.
Originally by: Ranger 1
By the way, making statements like...
Quote: We don't even have reliable statistics as to how many people voted for the award, let alone how many of those actually had distinct IP addresses; online voting is notoriously open to gaming.
... is indeed insinuating that the award is invalid because it could have been manipulated.
You are a really, really bad troll, aintcha?
Guess what? The facts aren't an "insinuation". We don't know the validity of the numbers, or even when those numbers are. Naturally, you want to gloss over that lack of knowledge as you try to sell your bull. Equally obvious is the fact that, yep, you were trolling by lying when you pretended that I'd "claimed the awards were fixed".
Caught in your lie, you're now pretending that a simple statement of statistical methodology is a definite accusation of fraud.
Originally by: Ranger 1
And stating that we Quote: we simply cannot know what the reality behind the raw numbers (which we also do not have access to)
is frankly pretty feeble. In effect you attempt to invalidate a legitimate, unbiased award because they didn't provide a data dump for you to analyze.
Please wave your ignorance at someone else, eh? You can't "invalidate" something which doesn't have data to support it in the first place. You are deliberately ignoring the fact that we don't know the raw numbers, don't know how many of those numbers are tied to multiple IP addresses, and have no way of verifying accuracy, at all. So, since you like making stuff up, you simply pretend it's "unbiased" and "legitimate" even though the entire point is that we lack the very basic data required to come to that conclusion.
Your continued trolling about "the gaming community has spoken" is rather pathetic. You do understand why internet polls are virtually never scientific polls, right? Please tell me that you're just trolling and playing dumb. ------------------------------------------------
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.18 08:55:00 -
[2535]
Originally by: Lahari Edited by: Lahari on 17/08/2010 13:17:07 Saying CCP is doing nothing. This is in spite of many dev blogs and Facebook updates and other announcements all along detailing their efforts on the lag issue.
If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
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Aralyn Cormallen
Caldari Wraith.Wing Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.18 09:12:00 -
[2536]
Edited by: Aralyn Cormallen on 18/08/2010 09:15:04 Regardless of the actual result of the award, this thread has done its job. I see three Dev blogs on lag in the last 5 days. Does anyone believe we would have seen even one of these if it hadn't been for this thread? I sincerely doubt it.
Now, these blogs could just be hot air that achieves nothing, we still need to see an actual live improvement, but its a start, and its a start we wouldn't have seen if it hadn't have been for the "whining" as some of you choose to put it.
So, you guys can posture as much as you like about how you think the "vocal minority got ignored", but the fact is we didn't. This was never about denying CCP an award, it was about getting them to seriously and honestly sort this (and many other issues) out. It was about giving them a wake-up call. Them losing the award would certainly have done that, but it seems it wasn't nessercery, they are at least appearing to have got the message.
So troll, and counter-troll each other as much as you like now the dust is settling, it doesn't matter a lot now. Ultimatly the award was irrelevant. Getting the message across and getting some action was always the prize we were going for, and thats one that we seem to have won. And its not just us "whiners" that have won, those of you opposed to us have won too; if this stuff gets sorted we are all winners, even if you lot hadn't been playing to the same game plan.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.18 13:01:00 -
[2537]
page 2 lol. Mandatory ccp sux
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Vladimir Soliara
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Posted - 2010.08.18 13:06:00 -
[2538]
Regardless of the actual dev blogs pertaining to fixing the lag issue, I will believe it when I see it. I have now been away from Eve for the last 2 months, other than logging in and setting skills, and to be honest I don't miss it like I used to.
Granted I am burned out from work, but with the way PI screwed the markets and such, I don't have a great desire to log in. I am just a bit tired of the bugs and watching the community being blown off by CCP. Enjoy the game everyone, but it isn't the same as what it was in beta.
Vlad
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Cyberslog
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Posted - 2010.08.18 13:57:00 -
[2539]
It would appear the voting is closed. Weather or not eve won anything is inconsequential. The more important portion of this thread is that CCP should take notice. Just because all 300+k didn't post, doesn't mean they didn't read and agree with a lot of the fault pointed out here.
I for one vary rarely if ever post on these forums, but i do quite a bit of reading. I can understand some peoples trepidation at posting on this thread, as well as those who agree, but just can't be bothered re-iterating what's already been said. The fact that so many (84 pages at current count) have opted to voice their opinion should make you at least take a look.
That being said, i'll state that Dev blogs to me are useless.. Instead of spending all that time typing out what you are going to fix, why not spend that valuable dev time on actually fixing it.
I can sit here and tell you till I'm blue in that face that my current SSH session isn't connected because i haven't typed in the password for root yet, and i could tell you that i plan on typing in root's password, and how easy it would be to type it in, and explain to you that typing in the root's password would allow me to complete my connection to my server via SSH... or...
hrm... look at that... took less time than explaining it to you, took less time that you reading... hell, took less time than me spell-checking it... but there you have it, I'm logged in as root on my server via SSH..
Stop wasting your time, our money, and your Dev's skill set. STFU and fix stuff already..
Then, instead of saying: " this is what we're going to do " You could be saying in patch notes: " this is what we've done "
Notice the difference, one has an air of accomplishment, while the other is full of regret..
BTW, i didn't vote for you.. I was amicable though, i didn't vote against you either. Now that the scolding is over, close the browser Mr.Dev, and get back to work, there's a few errant ; " ' : and .'s floating around in your database / python
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.18 14:07:00 -
[2540]
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Lahari Edited by: Lahari on 17/08/2010 13:17:07 Saying CCP is doing nothing. This is in spite of many dev blogs and Facebook updates and other announcements all along detailing their efforts on the lag issue.
If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
Post it on Twitter, however, and it's 'breaking news' which will spread around the world before lunch. By the time you get around to telling them it was a lie, it will have taken on a life of it's own because Twitter can't possibly be wrong, and Justin Beiber will have to issue a public statement to snap everyone out of it.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.18 16:23:00 -
[2541]
Holy Crap, this almost crept back to page 2. I simply in good conscience can not let that happen.
Can we have a online voting poll on who is the bigger fan boi: Ranger, or Zeba?
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.18 16:34:00 -
[2542]
HELLO; I am speaking on behalf of the entire player base, and I would just like to congratulate CCP on this fine victory, which proves to everyone that EVE Online is the best MMO in the world!
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.08.18 16:59:00 -
[2543]
Originally by: King Aires Holy Crap, this almost crept back to page 2. I simply in good conscience can not let that happen.
Can we have a online voting poll on who is the bigger fan boi: Ranger, or Zeba?
It's Zeba. Apparently I am only 2nd string. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Sneaky Noob
Cartamundi
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Posted - 2010.08.18 18:44:00 -
[2544]
almost at the bottom of the page... can't let that happen.
you may have won your little award, ccp, but you can't get rid of this post.
carry on.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Signe Tesk
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Posted - 2010.08.18 21:35:00 -
[2545]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
Quantum physics baby! Observing is collapsing; it's true now (sorry btw, or...?)
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 00:02:00 -
[2546]
Edited by: Jita Alt666 on 19/08/2010 00:03:29
Originally by: Ji Sama HELLO; I am speaking on behalf of the entire player base, and I would just like to congratulate CCP on this fine victory, which proves to everyone that EVE Online is the best MMO in the world!
I too speak for everyone who has ever played an mmo, and every one who has ever sat infront of a computer to congratulate CCP on this overwhelming victory in the face of massive adversery, that clearly does prove that Eve Online is the best game ever created in the history of the universe.
sigh.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 00:06:00 -
[2547]
Originally by: Signe Tesk
Originally by: Jita Alt666 If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
Quantum physics baby! Observing is collapsing; it's true now (sorry btw, or...?)
Oh no your logic has caused the melding of Justin and I. I didnt even give him a reach around - let him feel the emotions of a 0.0 Eve Online pilot.
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.19 00:46:00 -
[2548]
Originally by: Ji Sama HELLO; I am speaking on behalf of the entire player base, and I would just like to congratulate CCP on this fine victory, which proves to everyone that EVE Online is the best MMO in the world!
Europe
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.19 01:01:00 -
[2549]
No, the entire known universe and all possible eigenstates.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.19 02:01:00 -
[2550]
Went for a walk in General Discussion hoping for some posts and all I found was this link: Real Posts
CCP STOP deleting posts which bring you into bad light, if you can't take the heat, fix your ****ing game.
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.08.19 02:05:00 -
[2551]
I just realized that I haven't posted in this threadnaught yet. the situation is now taken care of.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.19 05:47:00 -
[2552]
Originally by: Felix Esperium I just realized that I haven't posted in this threadnaught yet. the situation is now taken care of.
Indeed. Eve won. Queue the haters.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.19 06:24:00 -
[2553]
Originally by: Aralyn Cormallen So troll, and counter-troll each other as much as you like now the dust is settling, it doesn't matter a lot now. Ultimatly the award was irrelevant. Getting the message across and getting some action was always the prize we were going for.
Bingo.
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.08.19 06:35:00 -
[2554]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Felix Esperium I just realized that I haven't posted in this threadnaught yet. the situation is now taken care of.
Indeed. Eve won. Queue the haters.
this thread has done its job. Queue the blind fanbois!
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Plac3Holder
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Posted - 2010.08.19 06:39:00 -
[2555]
Originally by: yourdoingitwrong
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Felix Esperium I just realized that I haven't posted in this threadnaught yet. the situation is now taken care of.
Indeed. Eve won. Queue the haters.
this thread has done its job. Queue the blind fanbois!
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Aralyn Cormallen So troll, and counter-troll each other as much as you like now the dust is settling, it doesn't matter a lot now. Ultimatly the award was irrelevant. Getting the message across and getting some action was always the prize we were going for.
Bingo.
I agree with you both. This thread did exactly what it was intended to do - get people to vote for EvE and help it win.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 09:54:00 -
[2556]
Originally by: Plac3Holder
I agree with you both. This thread did exactly what it was intended to do - get people to vote for EvE and help it win.
Was there an award somewhere? I thought this was a please list your issues with eve online thread.
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Noca Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.08.19 12:43:00 -
[2557]
Whilst ccp are answering a lot of lag based questions at the moment, I still managed to have a node death fleet fight this week. So, up off page 2.
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achoura
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Posted - 2010.08.19 13:04:00 -
[2558]
Well a few new blogs, which sadly, appear to just be ccp repeating stuff it's already said.
They seem to have missed the point completely. When people say "fix the lag" they mean fix whatever you introduced that made the game go from silky smooth to horribly crash and burn. Right after the fleet finder was introduced eve made this downturn. Similarly my character sheet has been fine for years, yet the second I press skill queue eve locks up for a good 3/4 seconds.
None of the blogs have touched to the years of neglect either. As a pvper I've been lucky, my area of the game has had some attention, but the negatives outweigh those. Miners have simply been ignored, unless you count macros, for years, plexes have had some tweaking, but older ones (particularly sansha) were designed at a time when damage mods didn't stack and as such there are ones in lowesc that have overseers requiring double the dps to take down as an 8/10 overseer.
I could go on, but the point is people start playing eve for a reason. If you don't continue to update that reason, e.g. mining, then they have no reason to stay. When a 3 month old player asked me if it was true that eccm implants don't work with eccm subs, and I had to explain they never did, they were broken on the test server and never fixed (much like the pirate detection array), he didn't bother continuing to month 4. It's like hitting dock, then coming back after an hour to find yourself sitting outside station. That's been a bug for over 6 years. ***The EVE servers and their patches***
[b]"the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells b |
LadyWhale
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Posted - 2010.08.19 13:24:00 -
[2559]
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.19 18:04:00 -
[2560]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 19/08/2010 18:05:05
Originally by: Plac3Holder I agree with you both. This thread did exactly what it was intended to do - get people to vote for EvE and help it win.
You are really, really stupid if you think CCP was happy about this thread. The award means nothing, the bad press across a dozen MMO sites and the mass user outrage look awful.
Hard to think when your head is up the developer's bum, no?
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.19 18:55:00 -
[2561]
There is no mass user outrage, just a bunch of neckbeards with a lot of accounts, they coincidently are running a few trash mmo websites, that no one reads anyways!
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:06:00 -
[2562]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 19/08/2010 19:06:11
Originally by: Ji Sama ...coincidently are running a few trash mmo websites, that no one reads anyways!
Ummm...your wrong, very wrong.
0/10
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Clan Blacklight Inc., Fleet Defense command
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:22:00 -
[2563]
no
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:36:00 -
[2564]
ccp buying there awards means nothing
hopefully this thread did enough damage though to at least get a few of ccp`s PR and beancounters fired
if they did....get fired...i hope they never get any job above diging ditches
allso , CCP spam posting blogs about anything but the issue at hand
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.19 19:41:00 -
[2565]
Originally by: Nedefeg if they did....get fired...i hope they never get any job above diging ditches
Ditches are dug with large machines now, and the operators are paid very well.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:12:00 -
[2566]
Originally by: Plac3Holder Edited by: Plac3Holder on 19/08/2010 20:09:45 double-post
wow you got beaten to a double post - laggy connection?
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Plac3Holder
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:17:00 -
[2567]
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Plac3Holder Edited by: Plac3Holder on 19/08/2010 20:09:45 double-post
wow you got beaten to a double post - laggy connection?
not exactly, shouldn't try and post from a blackberry
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fugazii
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:20:00 -
[2568]
f*** you ccp, fix your game then ask for votes.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:22:00 -
[2569]
Originally by: Plac3Holder
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Plac3Holder Edited by: Plac3Holder on 19/08/2010 20:09:45 double-post
wow you got beaten to a double post - laggy connection?
not exactly, shouldn't try and post from a blackberry
Didn't CCP try to make an eve client for the blackberry? Oh thats right they realised it was infeasible and rolled back development. Maybe they should keep following that precedent so threads like this get locked for inactivity rather than staying at top of boards.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:31:00 -
[2570]
Originally by: Plac3Holder Edited by: Plac3Holder on 19/08/2010 20:17:00
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 19/08/2010 18:05:05
Originally by: Plac3Holder I agree with you both. This thread did exactly what it was intended to do - get people to vote for EvE and help it win.
You are really, really stupid if you think CCP was happy about this thread. The award means nothing, the bad press across a dozen MMO sites and the mass user outrage look awful.
Hard to think when your head is up the developer's bum, no?
You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
We'll see the impact of the "bad press from fansites written by disgruntled, noisy fans" over time. My guess is that there will be none. EvE will continue to grow, CCP will continue to tune, tweak and perfect their game, and all the sad, sad little people complaining in this thread will continue to subscribe.
It'll be devastating.
The troll train left on the 11th...you missed it.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Clan Blacklight Inc., Fleet Defense command
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.19 20:35:00 -
[2571]
Imagine him running along the tracks, after the train, holding a big brown suitcase, while his lover girl looks out the back window of the service carriage and his brother with his taped up nose trips over his own case.
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King Aires
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.20 00:33:00 -
[2572]
Bump for justice... or just us.
The views expressed above are not those of my corp or an expression of where my corp stands.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.20 02:00:00 -
[2573]
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
Originally by: Plac3Holder We'll see the impact of the "bad press from fansites written by disgruntled, noisy fans" over time.
We already have, read the dev blogs and also note the increased dev posting regarding this matter.
Originally by: Plac3Holder My guess is that there will be none.
Great, considering how uniformed and reactionary you are, this is a ringing endorsement.
Originally by: Plac3Holder EvE will continue to grow, CCP will continue to tune, tweak and perfect their game...
Yeah, they said that about NGE too - and there were bleating, mouth breathing fanbois like you that defended SWG till the bitter end.
Originally by: Plac3Holder It'll be devastating.
Not as devastating as your terrible posting and blind cheer leading.
We all love this game. Some are willing to save it from itself, others to cover their eyes and watch it die slowly over time.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.20 14:49:00 -
[2574]
Originally by: Jita Alt666
If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
Damn I would hope it aint true rofl.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 01:55:00 -
[2575]
Originally by: alittlebirdy
Originally by: Jita Alt666
If i post on facebook that Im sleeping with justin beiber it does not make it true
Damn I would hope it aint true rofl.
Someone's jealous.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 02:24:00 -
[2576]
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 02:37:00 -
[2577]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:10:00 -
[2578]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Originally by: Plac3Holder You are really, really stupid if you think the pathetic, childish emo-raging in this thread meant anything.
You are really, really stupid if you dismiss the majority of the posts on this thread because of a few ragers.
But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
As an individual sure and I clocked in at 82 as of the time of this post. But in the context of the 2527 current posts in this thread I barely made a ripple. Lets be fair as it took a lot of posting with this single character to keep up with the fullout alt poaster gangbang assault of doom you guys threw at me once I joined the fun at page 56.
So gratz again Eve Online for your recent public popularity award win that the players themselves voted for.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:14:00 -
[2579]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
As an individual sure and I clocked in at 82 as of the time of this post. But in the context of the 2527 current posts in this thread I barely made a ripple. Lets be fair as it took a lot of posting with this single character to keep up with the fullout alt poaster gangbang assault of doom you guys threw at me once I joined the fun at page 56.
So gratz again Eve Online for your recent public popularity award win that the players themselves voted for.
But what if a few carebears had contributed the majority of the votes?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:21:00 -
[2580]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba But what if the few ragers had made the majority of the posts?
You made the majority of the posts.
As an individual sure and I clocked in at 82 as of the time of this post. But in the context of the 2527 current posts in this thread I barely made a ripple. Lets be fair as it took a lot of posting with this single character to keep up with the fullout alt poaster gangbang assault of doom you guys threw at me once I joined the fun at page 56.
So gratz again Eve Online for your recent public popularity award win that the players themselves voted for.
But what if a few carebears had contributed the majority of the votes?
Carebears play the game too. Along with pirates and antipies and traders and producers and miners and mission runners and pos managers and small gang pvpers and nullsec anomaly farmers or a thousand other little sandboxy corners of the game that are just fine and dandy.
Unless of course you are implying that it was a vote that was restricted to just the fleet fight guys. If so then even they left you cold as eve still won.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:24:00 -
[2581]
Originally by: Zeba Carebears play the game too.
Carebears don't play the game. They're just human mining macros.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:29:00 -
[2582]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Carebears play the game too.
Carebears don't play the game. They're just human mining macros.
They do however fund the majority of the game. If you kicked all the carebears out tommorow then what would be left wouldn't even pay for the lights let alone a high tech server farm. But go ahead and keep trying to burn down the house to spite the landlord*.
*I herd they fireproofed everything so good luck with that.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Swren1
Infinite Covenant Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:31:00 -
[2583]
not even gonna insult.....
Just no
Sort the lag
meep meep
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:31:00 -
[2584]
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:33:00 -
[2585]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
So you are saying that you are a carebear?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:34:00 -
[2586]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:35:00 -
[2587]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They do however fund the majority of the game.
More proof of how you fanbois see players. We're just here to "fund" CCP.
So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
Not by the way you worded it.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:36:00 -
[2588]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
Not by the way you worded it.
"You are a carebear."
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:40:00 -
[2589]
Sajad, DNFTT. ------------------------------------------------
Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain! |
Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:42:00 -
[2590]
Originally by: FinnAgain Zero Sajad, DNFTT.
FinnAgain Zero, TTIFM.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:59:00 -
[2591]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba So you are saying that you are a carebear?
I'm saying that you are a carebear.
Not by the way you worded it.
"You are a carebear."
Depends on what character I'm using tbh. Can't get much epic pew pew if you are running some trade items around in an orca to make isk to purchase the cap ships and hanger full of shineys for the combat alts. Though tbh I don't really use this specific character much anymore as I'm pretty much full time in faction war with a couple of other characters.
However I did go ahead and fit myself out a nice suicide triage niddy just in case the combat alts got in major trouble with with some pricy stuff. Luckily I have some pretty good corp mates who also have ties to some pretty good mates in other corps so I've never needed it.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:00:00 -
[2592]
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:02:00 -
[2593]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:04:00 -
[2594]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
It's a rhetorical question.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:05:00 -
[2595]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba I'm sometimes a carebear.
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
It's a rhetorical question.
They why poast it?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:09:00 -
[2596]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Should I care?
You must because you keep replying to me when I never even mentioned your name. I mean people who don't care obviously don't poast. amirite?
It's a rhetorical question.
They why poast it?
Why answer it?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:12:00 -
[2597]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
It's a rhetorical question.
They why poast it?
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:13:00 -
[2598]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They why poast it?
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
I don't remember poasting anything.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:16:00 -
[2599]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba They why poast it?
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
I don't remember poasting anything.
This explains much.
Btw think we can make it to page 100? I'm game.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:18:00 -
[2600]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sajad
Why answer it?
Because you poasted it silly. This is a forum after all..
I don't remember poasting anything.
This explains much.
Btw think we can make it to page 100? I'm game.
This explains much. The troll is spamming the thread.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:23:00 -
[2601]
Originally by: Sajad This explains much. The troll is spamming the thread.
So we agree! Take away all the troll poasts and we would probably max out at around six pages as per the contents of my initial post at page 56.
Glad you finally came around mate.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:35:00 -
[2602]
Originally by: Zeba Take away all the troll poasts
If you want your posts removed, why post them in the first place?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 04:45:00 -
[2603]
Edited by: Zeba on 21/08/2010 04:45:32
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Take away all the troll poasts
If you want your posts removed, why post them in the first place?
Now your starting to quote out of context to pull the thread completely off topic. Not very nice and will be prone to get the thread locked at this late a date. Unless of course that was your plan all along..
Oh wait a new page!
Gratz yet again eve for the public opinion win in the Best European Online Game catagory!
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:20:00 -
[2604]
Originally by: Zeba Now ... completely off ... course
I agree. You are forcing this discussion completely off course.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:22:00 -
[2605]
EVE is a **** poor game, I cannot believe the audacity of CCP when they can even think that we would vote this game for best mmo ever made!
FIRST FIX LAG; THEN I WILL VOTE!
Also totally fail of CCP to sticky this, and then when I started stating the obvious problems with this, the took it off sticky, because they want to hide this thread.
But I will keep on complaining about lag because it is ruining my immersion and gaming experience, and I pay to play this game, and if CCP does not fix the lag, I will never resub again.
Take that...
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:32:00 -
[2606]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba Now ... completely off ... course
I agree. You are forcing this discussion completely off course.
How can I force the discussion of an award site thread for eve off course when I put up a link to the award site with eve's win listed in it inside the post you hacked to death?
Originally by: Ji Sama EVE is a **** poor game, I cannot believe the audacity of CCP when they can even think that we would vote this game for best mmo ever made!
FIRST FIX LAG; THEN I WILL VOTE!
Also totally fail of CCP to sticky this, and then when I started stating the obvious problems with this, the took it off sticky, because they want to hide this thread.
But I will keep on complaining about lag because it is ruining my immersion and gaming experience, and I pay to play this game, and if CCP does not fix the lag, I will never resub again.
Take that...
Oh you charmer you..
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:35:00 -
[2607]
Originally by: Zeba How can I force the discussion of an award site off course when I put up a link to the award site inside the post?
Your claim, not mine. See, I even quoted it.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:39:00 -
[2608]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba How can I force the discussion of an award site off course when I put up a link to the award site inside the post?
Your claim, not mine. See, I even quoted it.
Some bits missing in that quote is seems but thats been normal for the last page or so. But you did say on a previous page you didn't even remember making any poasts at all in relation to a few other poasts you have made that are still there.
How long you been up mate?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Sajad
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:42:00 -
[2609]
Originally by: Zeba How long you been up mate?
Longer than EVE has. So a few hours give or take.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.21 05:49:00 -
[2610]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba How long you been up mate?
Longer than EVE has. So a few hours give or take.
/rimshot
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.08.21 06:19:00 -
[2611]
Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Zeba How long you been up mate?
Longer than EVE has. So a few hours give or take.
/win
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4EGEVARO
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Posted - 2010.08.21 06:22:00 -
[2612]
Edited by: 4EGEVARO on 21/08/2010 06:22:54 ummm nope .... just came back after a little break and 0.0 has this much lag....no you dont deserve or get game of the year..... ya guys plz cancle your subscription for a little while till CCP gets the hint
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.08.21 10:30:00 -
[2613]
So, with how many votes did EVE win? Can't seem to find the numbers.
Was it a significant portion of the player base that voted or just a vocal minority that just happens to be larger than the vocal minorities of the other games?
Maybe the silent majority even agrees with the sentiment displayed in this thread? We'll never know, though, as the silent majority is usually, well, silent. Guess it's easy to project your own opinion on people that haven't displayed theirs.
Isn't that the definition of a straw man? --------
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.21 10:33:00 -
[2614]
Originally by: Abrazzar So, with how many votes did EVE win? Can't seem to find the numbers.
Was it a significant portion of the player base that voted or just a vocal minority that just happens to be larger than the vocal minorities of the other games?
Maybe the silent majority even agrees with the sentiment displayed in this thread? We'll never know, though, as the silent majority is usually, well, silent. Guess it's easy to project your own opinion on people that haven't displayed theirs.
Isn't that the definition of a straw man?
No. "Straw man" means to argue against a distorted or false version of what the other person was saying.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
HottyChick
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Posted - 2010.08.21 12:03:00 -
[2615]
How about CCP you fix the game 1st so we can actually play it??? Jumping in system with 200-500+ ppl and not loading grid or jammed guns for 5mins, perma lag during fleet fights, TRAFFIC CONTROL even in gangs of 30-50ppl. The list is much longer but im sure we all know it. Fix the game than ask us to help you get reward cos atm this game doesnt deserve any reward unless its LAG REWARD LOL
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HottyChick
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Posted - 2010.08.21 12:08:00 -
[2616]
Originally by: Lorieen Ummm .... wha???
Have you played your game lately in a fleet battle?
YES I did and didnt load grid for 40mins last night
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Morrow Disca
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.21 12:17:00 -
[2617]
Whole servers dying right now, gg CCP.
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Kosa Mosapiel
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Posted - 2010.08.21 19:23:00 -
[2618]
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.21 19:27:00 -
[2619]
Wow, this has turned into a big threadnought.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.21 20:13:00 -
[2620]
A chunk of the posts are ragers Zeba, but not the majority.
Pages 1-65 or so had some quality content from big names. As a threads lifespan lengthens, it devolves into terrible posting and nasty little back and forths. Such is the internet.
I urge you not to dismiss those who quietly made sense because of a few (alright more than a few) jackasses. By all means though, keep getting people worked up. (No Sarcasm.)
It's fun to watch.
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Genji Ancient
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Posted - 2010.08.21 20:51:00 -
[2621]
OP gets the best Troll of 2010 award.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.08.22 01:39:00 -
[2622]
This aint at 100 pages yet Little closer! O ya fix the lag.
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.22 04:35:00 -
[2623]
Originally by: Morrow Disca Whole servers dying right now, gg CCP.
Ohnoes, World of Tanks server is down? Oh... wait... you mean that other game? Yeah, used to play it, but small and medium gang warfare got moved to WoT now. There it's playable. Maybe will take another look at EVE tho... in like... *18 months*.
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Randi Toftdal
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Posted - 2010.08.22 11:32:00 -
[2624]
LOL eve best online game
only thing is keeping me playing are the other players , this game needs FIXES instead of new upgrades....
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.22 17:50:00 -
[2625]
Originally by: HarrietMiers A chunk of the posts are ragers Zeba, but not the majority.
Pages 1-65 or so had some quality content from big names. As a threads lifespan lengthens, it devolves into terrible posting and nasty little back and forths. Such is the internet.
I urge you not to dismiss those who quietly made sense because of a few (alright more than a few) jackasses. By all means though, keep getting people worked up. (No Sarcasm.)
It's fun to watch.
I never dismissed any of the 'quality' posts such as they were even if all they really were was a slightly moar polite way to say 'ffs fix your game ccp I want to fight'. Also I only ever responded to the trolls the entire time after my first post on page 56. Remember it was you guys who attacked me at ever turn for giving my opinion. (which obviously didn't sit well with some of the people in the thread. gosh darn opposing opinions on a gaming forums.. ;p)
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.22 17:57:00 -
[2626]
Cant believe this thread hasn't been locked.
The vote is over...EVE won.
CCP will do what it wants. It doesn't care about player feedback...that's all a PR illusion.
End of story.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.22 19:47:00 -
[2627]
no numbers revealed huh? ccp must of made a blatant money offer to buy the title.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.08.23 02:56:00 -
[2628]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch Cant believe this thread hasn't been locked.
The vote is over...EVE won.
CCP will do what it wants. It doesn't care about player feedback...that's all a PR illusion.
End of story.
Oh I'm sure locking the thread where paying customers are venting thier frustrations would be the an awesome idea.
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Nova Satar
Reverse Psychology. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.08.23 09:01:00 -
[2629]
**** game
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.23 22:08:00 -
[2630]
Originally by: Genji Ancient OP gets the best Troll of 2010 award.
Now that i'd vote for!
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.23 22:12:00 -
[2631]
Nice to see an 80+ page thread regarding the terrible state of eve online is still near the top of page one. Just had a petition rejected due to: You were dead before that screenshot - your client was just lagged. Screenshot was a of a t2 fit drake at 30% shields on an undock being shot by 2 battleships.
In my mind thats a simple declaration from a GM that pvp has been reduced to pure lottery.
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.24 04:21:00 -
[2632]
I'm sorry, we cannot fix this game as there are no records indicating it is broken.
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Mexbrutor
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Posted - 2010.08.24 05:45:00 -
[2633]
Edited by: Mexbrutor on 24/08/2010 05:44:54 So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.24 05:53:00 -
[2634]
Originally by: Mexbrutor So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
They won.
Yeah I know, hard to believe what with the entirety of eve being completely unplayable.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from missions and complexes. All other game discussions are only aloud in OOP.
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Aera Aiana
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.24 10:58:00 -
[2635]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mexbrutor So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
They won.
Yeah I know, hard to believe what with the entirety of eve being completely unplayable.
Judging by the population distribution high/low/null I think most players couldn't care less about fleet fight lag. -
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.08.24 14:10:00 -
[2636]
Originally by: Aera Aiana
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mexbrutor So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
They won.
Yeah I know, hard to believe what with the entirety of eve being completely unplayable.
Judging by the population distribution high/low/null I think most players couldn't care less about fleet fight lag.
Ah, not a safe assumption. As *many* have poasted in these forums already, many high-sec toons are merely alts for low and null-sec PvPers.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.24 14:16:00 -
[2637]
I have quitted teh game bicuase oof lagz
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Aluin Chaput
Caldari Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.24 17:44:00 -
[2638]
0.0 is EVE. We're the guys with 5 alts, who make EVE the game it is, and if you've ever seen an EVE advertisement, it's big fleet fights or small pvp.
The fact that they still win just goes to show that all Icelandic citizens where forced to vote, and we need to do more the curb stomp the people who get paid to not work on this game.
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HarrietMiers
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.08.24 18:58:00 -
[2639]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mexbrutor So how did the voting go for ya CCPee?
They won.
Yeah I know, hard to believe what with the entirety of eve being completely unplayable.
That makes two of us.
(I kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid.)
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Justice Starcatcher
Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjostr
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:00:00 -
[2640]
I voted for it, things are on the upswing. Don't worry be happy.
What the... |
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coney fitzwarren
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Posted - 2010.08.25 12:15:00 -
[2641]
Says a lot about the quality of the competition doesn't it.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.08.25 13:44:00 -
[2642]
Without the numbers for the voting turnout, this award means next to nothing. --------
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2010.08.25 14:27:00 -
[2643]
Originally by: Abrazzar Without the numbers for the voting turnout, this award means next to nothing.
Front page of the award says this:
Originally by: www.european-games-award.com/ Over 12.000 users voted for Europeæs biggest public award
For about two weeks European gamers were able to vote online for the best European games, developers, publishers, magazines and platforms on this website. More than 12.000 games-fans from more than 30 countries registered for voting. The winners were honored on 14th August 2010 during the award ceremony on the event ship æPure-liner 1Æ in Cologne.
No further details on the voting spread are provided, though it's rare to encounter an online voting award that provides figures beyond the total number of votes.
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zz01shagsme
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Posted - 2010.08.25 15:12:00 -
[2644]
WOW shocker if they won but hey ho it still is the best MMOLFRPG out there. Massive fleets for me are now a passed event i am varebearing it up in empire and having fun doing it with an alt tearing loose killing ratters in an arazu haaaar haaaar
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.08.25 15:17:00 -
[2645]
No voting, and I reply just to bump the thread. I think what needs to be said has already been said above Please use only one signature file in your signature - Fallout |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.25 21:52:00 -
[2646]
This thread is suffering from the same malaise as the popular internet MMO, Eve Online. A lack of internal improvement and a lose of touch with the general playerbase.
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.08.26 13:31:00 -
[2647]
Oh this thread is slowly fading :(.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.26 13:41:00 -
[2648]
Once I couldn't even log in to the game, because of lag, there where 0 people online, and it would't accept my connection.
I was also scammed in Jita once, someone wanted to sell me a navy raven, but it was really a normal raven.
Because of the above, I quitted the game!
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R'tur
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:26:00 -
[2649]
The thread might be fading , but this will never die.... and its still,making me lmao... Originally by: Alex's Slave 2010.07.28 10:56:26
Victim: EVE Online Corp: Crowd Control Publications Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Faith System: Broken Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 60,453 Involved parties:
Name: EVE Playerbase (laid the final blow) Security: 5.0 Corp: Various Alliance: Crusaders for Excellence Faction: NONE Ship: Subscription Weapon: Subscription Cancelling Autocannon II Damage Done: 60,453
Destroyed items:
Reputation II Customer Satisfaction I (Qty. 4)
Dropped items:
Ball
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I look forward to it
...ShatteredCrystal...
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:31:00 -
[2650]
Yep. Eve Online is dying... Yawn.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:55:00 -
[2651]
In order to breathe life into this dying thread, i will suggest that the next few pages deal with whether or not future generations will look back on EVE online as the Battlecruiser 3000AD of this decade.
I will of course retract this if and when CCP makes good on all their promises.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Gunnyt31
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Posted - 2010.08.26 18:29:00 -
[2652]
back fire much?
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Overbrain
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Posted - 2010.08.26 21:51:00 -
[2653]
What did you guys expect ? They created this thread and sticky-ed it so you could flame off as much as you want and then cool down eventually , go back to playing eve or better yet just change your skills from time to time and play another game.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.08.26 21:55:00 -
[2654]
Originally by: Gunnyt31 back fire much?
On who? CCP for posting a thread that got flamed yet they still win, or on whiners who felt bumping this thread with negativity would ensure they didn't get the award? .
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.08.27 06:29:00 -
[2655]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Gunnyt31 back fire much?
On who? CCP for posting a thread that got flamed yet they still win, or on whiners who felt bumping this thread with negativity would ensure they didn't get the award?
With 12k people voting on the award in total, spread over all the games, this award has even less significance than the CSM.
It was a attempt at positive PR that backfired into pretty bad PR for CCP. It backfired so much that they didn't even put up a news item over their victory on the front page. --------
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.27 06:38:00 -
[2656]
Originally by: Abrazzar It backfired so much that they didn't even put up a news item over their victory on the front page.
Well to be honest at nearly 90 pages and 170k+ views for this thread that had plenty of posts near the end detailing the win it would have been kinda redundant I would imagine.
Though in ccp's case it would be best to leave sleeping dogs lie and not rub it in like us forum whoors get to do.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.29 21:40:00 -
[2657]
THe page views alone, proves that zeba is right in her argumentation. All that have read this, and posted in this agrees with zeba. I speak for the entire community when I say, that zeba is right!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.29 21:50:00 -
[2658]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula I will of course retract this if and when CCP makes good on all their promises.
~Fifteen and a half months~
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2010.08.29 22:14:00 -
[2659]
If you all hate Eve so much, why are any of you still playing >_>
Go away, maybe it will be more fun again.
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IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.29 22:44:00 -
[2660]
The troll is strong with this one!!
/Ran out of popcorn!
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w0rmy
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2010.08.30 02:20:00 -
[2661]
Originally by: IDieAlotInGateCamps The troll is strong with this one!!
/Ran out of popcorn!
Your sig is cool.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.01 22:04:00 -
[2662]
All comements regarding how terrible ccp is at providing eve servers should be posted in this thread. (aka BUMP)
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.09.02 00:17:00 -
[2663]
Originally by: Jita Alt666 All comements regarding how terrible ccp is at providing eve servers should be posted in this thread. (aka BUMP)
If you really want "all", that would require a lot of meanwhile canceled subs to be reactivated. Doubt it is gonna happen considering the current state of the game in parts of New Eden (Opposed to what some ppl think, Jita ain't the only system that counts...). Although, to be fair, the lag and game mechanics issues haven'T affected forum functionality... yet...
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Camios
Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.09.02 00:34:00 -
[2664]
Edited by: Camios on 02/09/2010 00:39:09
Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: Jita Alt666 All comements regarding how terrible ccp is at providing eve servers should be posted in this thread. (aka BUMP)
If you really want "all", that would require a lot of meanwhile canceled subs to be reactivated. Doubt it is gonna happen considering the current state of the game in parts of New Eden (Opposed to what some ppl think, Jita ain't the only system that counts...). Although, to be fair, the lag and game mechanics issues haven'T affected forum functionality... yet...
Just FYI, the lag they're talking about is due to people not filling the fleet fight notification form (look further in that post). These days it looks cool to blame CCP for everything, everybody want to look cool so they whine.
Every player that unsuscribes is a step towards a lag and idiot free EVE.
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.09.02 08:23:00 -
[2665]
Originally by: Camios Edited by: Camios on 02/09/2010 00:39:09
Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: Jita Alt666 All comements regarding how terrible ccp is at providing eve servers should be posted in this thread. (aka BUMP)
If you really want "all", that would require a lot of meanwhile canceled subs to be reactivated. Doubt it is gonna happen considering the current state of the game in parts of New Eden (Opposed to what some ppl think, Jita ain't the only system that counts...). Although, to be fair, the lag and game mechanics issues haven'T affected forum functionality... yet...
Just FYI, the lag they're talking about is due to people not filling the fleet fight notification form (look further in that post). These days it looks cool to blame CCP for everything, everybody want to look cool so they whine.
Every player that unsuscribes is a step towards a lag and idiot free EVE.
Oh yeah, I'm totally positive CCP would just love it if I filled out a fleet notification form 24 hours in advance before trying to simply log in. Which wasn't possible in both Curse and Delve. So are you stupid or just illiterate or both? Probably both as you seem to have not the shadow of an idea which lag I'm talking about.
Kind of understandable perhaps considering that apart from the ivory tower that is some parts of high-sec lag is pretty much a reality everywhere else. Additionally if you really suggest seriously for a gang of 20 people roaming to fill out a fleet notification form in advance, I suggest you take some PvP lessons from EVE-Uni, you need them for sure.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.02 10:11:00 -
[2666]
i quitted eve because of lag! |
SWJesus
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Posted - 2010.09.05 12:10:00 -
[2667]
Edited by: SWJesus on 05/09/2010 12:10:27 *BUMP ccp seems to keep forgetting abotu the 80 Pages of " Fix the ******ed Lag" answer its community gave after some distanced developer thought its a great idear to ask the community to vote for the BROKEN eve as nr1 game.
FIX THE GAME BEFORE ADDING NEW STUFF. FIX THE LAG IN LARGE BATTLES, STOP TROLLING YOUR PAYING COSTUMOURS
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Ripperljohn
Caldari Ordo Mercuia
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Posted - 2010.09.05 12:40:00 -
[2668]
Edited by: Ripperljohn on 05/09/2010 12:40:12 http://www.massively.com/2010/09/04/pax-2010-ccp-unveils-eve-onlines-latest-expansion/
i mad --------------------------------------------------
"Look, we're basically on earth to **** and ****. So unless your job's to help people **** or ****, it's not that important, so relax."
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 20:50:00 -
[2669]
Gunna go ahead and bump this for great justice.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.06 21:16:00 -
[2670]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Gunna go ahead and bump this for great justice.
Arghhh! Zombie! Get back in yer box!!
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:57:00 -
[2671]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Gunna go ahead and bump this for great justice.
Hmmm, they just completed a 700 man fleet fight in KBP.
Zero lag.
Bump away! ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.06 23:04:00 -
[2672]
Eve is still dying .
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.06 23:06:00 -
[2673]
Why is this thread still here?
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.06 23:36:00 -
[2674]
Originally by: Camios Edited by: Camios on 02/09/2010 00:39:09
Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: Jita Alt666 All comements regarding how terrible ccp is at providing eve servers should be posted in this thread. (aka BUMP)
If you really want "all", that would require a lot of meanwhile canceled subs to be reactivated. Doubt it is gonna happen considering the current state of the game in parts of New Eden (Opposed to what some ppl think, Jita ain't the only system that counts...). Although, to be fair, the lag and game mechanics issues haven'T affected forum functionality... yet...
Just FYI, the lag they're talking about is due to people not filling the fleet fight notification form (look further in that post). These days it looks cool to blame CCP for everything, everybody want to look cool so they whine.
Every player that unsuscribes is a step towards a lag and idiot free EVE.
Stay ignorant Camios: CCP have made the sov mechanics utilise timers as low as two hours. CCP need 24 hours to (pre dt warning )that a node needs to be reinforced.
If an alliance doesnt know theres going to be a fight 11 hours after DT until 9 hours after DT how are they meant to tell CCP to reinforce the node 2 hours before DT?
It's popular to write off the high proportion of the eve online player base who through frustration voice concerns regarding the current starte of eve. If you are going to do so at least be informed of the mechanics enough to not be 100% incorrect.
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Vossejongk
Caldari Bendebeukers Green Rhino
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:39:00 -
[2675]
Edited by: Vossejongk on 07/09/2010 13:41:00 If you want to have the lag fixed, join the mass-testing they are having on SISI. Upcome has been lower and lower lately.. and it isnt helping.
Edit: Maybe it looks pointless but I got to speak with a dev who normally doesnt talk with the players at all, and he was extremely happy I could send him a logserver log for the "nothing loads when entering system" bug.
At least it made me feel like we're really doing something here and I will try to participate as much as possible :).
----------------------------------------------- EVE Gate:
Originally by: Simeon Tor
Soon you'll be saying "Eve has a client?"
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blulululu
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:45:00 -
[2676]
hmm so if we plan a roam completely n notify ccp 24 hours before the start with all the systems we will go through we can do it without lagging on gates?
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.09 09:21:00 -
[2677]
Ji Sama's FakeEdit nvm
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Sai Nunnie
LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.09.09 10:32:00 -
[2678]
I love this game, it has been the only game that has kept my interest for 5+ yrs, by far the longest of any game.
With that said have yall gone of the deep end? If and only if yall delay Dust, and Incarna and fix the main issues would I vote.
The players have spoken fix the top issues and you would have an army of loyal players.
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Yeay Fritg
Caldari Confrerie de Kaedri Cluster Of Rebirth
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Posted - 2010.09.09 14:24:00 -
[2679]
Bump
Fix the Lag and the game will be back in a normal state. Without fixing the Bug but only the lad all will be able to see them !
Too much Test Server Events too less results since too long time. That's why I don't help them to waste my time on Sisi when TQ is down !
Yeay
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.09 14:36:00 -
[2680]
Originally by: Ripperljohn Edited by: Ripperljohn on 05/09/2010 12:40:12 http://www.massively.com/2010/09/04/pax-2010-ccp-unveils-eve-onlines-latest-expansion/
i mad
This.
I do PI on various alts and that update description made absolutely no sense to me in terms of a change to the way in which planet-based materials are harvested. Put more time into PI and the results are greater. Put in less time and the results are diminished. That is the *current* state of affairs.
It would be nice to have a better understanding of what will be new or changed w/PI.
And 40 players at a time for the instanced Sansha PvE raids? Out of ~40k sitting on the server? Wow. That level of exclusivity greatly diminishes the value to the 99.9% of the other players logged into the game. Create at least three simultaneous "attacks" across the New Eden galaxy and then the experience might have a chance of being more equitable.
I am still at a point where recommending EVE to friends as a really cool game worthy of investing their time is a no-go.
Oh, and gogo necro! Some threads never fully die.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.14 04:37:00 -
[2681]
This is a joke, I had a thread locked, and now I am whining about lag.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.14 04:41:00 -
[2682]
Originally by: Yeay Fritg Bump
Fix the Lag and the game will be back in a normal state. Without fixing the Bug but only the lad all will be able to see them !
Too much Test Server Events too less results since too long time. That's why I don't help them to waste my time on Sisi when TQ is down !
Yeay
Holy ****, you should read the dev blogs before accusing them of not working on fixing lag.
People can be so stupid.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.14 08:47:00 -
[2683]
CCP has done something in last few weeks.
We feel improvement, and a big one.
Lot of guys can confirm this.
Now CCP, don't think that this is the job done, this is only the beginning, and keep up with god work finally
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SirDynty
Boiians
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:36:00 -
[2684]
last expansion was disappointing for me ,so no vote CCP ,sorry yeah,all these forme "NPC" good can be done by players,but i was expecting like 10times more buildings and 10times more pwr/cpu on the planets...it was kinda poor expansion. and i dont care about the lag. Also corp theft promotional video...no way
http://forum.boiians.cz/ |
Soon Shin
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:04:00 -
[2685]
Duke Nukem Forever has BALLS OF STEEL unlike CCP. Sorry man but its true.
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:08:00 -
[2686]
Originally by: Soon Shin Duke Nukem Forever has BALLS OF STEEL unlike CCP. Sorry man but its true.
Hehe.. I guarantee that the top ccp brass have moar money than your entire family with the balls to match. It takes a special kind of conniving to get a positive growth curve for the entire life of the game after all, especially as its an mmo.
Mods otoh.. ZOMG!!! |
Nai Sethanas
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Posted - 2010.09.17 02:57:00 -
[2687]
Vote for Lag... Failed content updates (PI is sad, Tyrannis is pitiful)... Unresolved Balance Issues (Suppercarriers, TYVM though almost a year of training then they make the hel the worst of the 4 Supper carriers).. And much much more!
You guys are going to sink this game, as all your fans watch helplessly from the shore. Get EVERYONE working on fixing the game, then once it's fixed you can assign 70ish ppl to making carebares walk in stations. -_-
Also... STOP WITH THE STUPID 1 TIME SHIPS! that last PI ship was a waste of Dev time and a pile of junk.
Anyways... My vote is going elsewhere...
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.17 03:25:00 -
[2688]
Originally by: Stygian Knight CCP has done something in last few weeks.
We feel improvement, and a big one.
Lot of guys can confirm this.
Now CCP, don't think that this is the job done, this is only the beginning, and keep up with god work finally
x2
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.17 03:43:00 -
[2689]
Originally by: Nai Sethanas Anyways... My vote is going elsewhere...
Tbh your a bit late to the party mate.. ZOMG!!! |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2010.09.17 23:00:00 -
[2690]
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
I do PI on various alts and that update description made absolutely no sense to me in terms of a change to the way in which planet-based materials are harvested. Put more time into PI and the results are greater. Put in less time and the results are diminished. That is the *current* state of affairs.
It would be nice to have a better understanding of what will be new or changed w/PI.
If PI is an expansion anything like FactionWar then expect no updates or fixes at all.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:03:00 -
[2691]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara
I do PI on various alts and that update description made absolutely no sense to me in terms of a change to the way in which planet-based materials are harvested. Put more time into PI and the results are greater. Put in less time and the results are diminished. That is the *current* state of affairs.
It would be nice to have a better understanding of what will be new or changed w/PI.
If PI is an expansion anything like FactionWar then expect no updates or fixes at all.
Fortunately CCP tied PI into pos production and fueling. That means if PI falls over POS holding and functioning will suffer. That would severly distort the economy across the entire game. That means PI will be tinkered with until it functions at a level that keeps 51% of players happy.
If CCP's major game designers had any sense they would tie the incusions features (up coming pirate faction fleets) with faction warfare. Hence expect faction warfare to die a slow death and expect ccp to fade it out in 24 months claiming eve players had voted with their feet and faction warfare just was not popular to sustain.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.09.18 10:54:00 -
[2692]
PAGE 90 SNIPPA
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Artemis Ahab
Caldari The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.09.18 11:17:00 -
[2693]
Originally by: Ji Sama PAGE 89 SNIPPA
Ahem...fix'd
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Max Wilson
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:54:00 -
[2694]
posting on page 89 in the longest thread ever.
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Kaurapa
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Posted - 2010.09.22 23:16:00 -
[2695]
Posting in big long thread with lots of people hating on CCP, with a link to another thread with a new issue that are causing lots of people to hate on ccp:
PLEX for Remap Feedback
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Deadly Hobbitses
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.23 02:48:00 -
[2696]
Look on the bright side fellas, they have 70 or so Devs working on Incarna instead of the other 99% of EVE and it still isn't making it into the winter expansion.
They are, however, judging by the Massively article, going to make the clickfest of PI even more of a clickfest by making that colony you spent the time to set up in the first place degenerate to the point of near uselessness if you don't buy and place new extractors and such every few days. Better stockpile your PI commodities now because they may be prohibitively expensive in the future.
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Yeay Fritg
Caldari Confrerie de Kaedri Cluster Of Rebirth
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Posted - 2010.09.23 03:11:00 -
[2697]
Hello,
Decided to Fly Away this game I liked simply cause CCP behaviour with us explained in this thread and the link previous.
Take care capsulers it's just the new market orientation of CCP and it will increase every extension.
Fly Safe, Yeay
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Ramingo
Caldari Payable on Death
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Posted - 2010.09.29 09:06:00 -
[2698]
Originally by: Ji Sama PAGE 90 SNIPPA
Page 89 but yeah :p
I'd love to see some FW Plex love, not crappy attribute remap for 30 day PLEX...
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Kyle Komato
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Posted - 2010.10.02 17:15:00 -
[2699]
hi mom!
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.02 17:17:00 -
[2700]
As this competition has been over for quite some time now the thread can be locked as it is being bumped unnecessarily.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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