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Jaxley
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:20:00 -
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Hi C&P,
the lack of air-tight and secure ransoming mechanics prompted us to think of a way that allows customers to pay pirates without fear of losing their ship or pod along with their ISK.
For this purpose, the Tuskers are offering a Third Party Ransom Service as of today in the ingame channel 'RANSOM SERVICE'.
Short version: we hold on to the ransom payment until the customer is safe; then we forward the money to the pirates.
For detailed information, please have a look at this thread on our forums.
An excerpt from the thread's FAQ:
Quote:Q: Why can I trust Tuskers with this service?A: Our code does not allow any Tusker to break his word. Doing so warrants public ejection, unless he does everything in his might to set things right to the full satisfaction of all damaged parties. Feel free to ask neutral parties to vouch for us, who know how we've been operating for the past 4 years (for example in "The Tuskers Public Channel" in-game). Further questions are appreciated.
Regards, Jaxley http://twitch.tv/EVEJaxley |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1629
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:54:00 -
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The Tuskers.
+1 Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Garven Dreis
Kicking Smurfs The Marmite Collective
63
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Posted - 2012.07.21 23:35:00 -
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Actually seems like a good idea. Will be keeping an eye on this for use in the future. In Manticore we Trust |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.07.21 23:45:00 -
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I vouch for the Tuskers legitimacy and will be interested to see how this service works out. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Astavia
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.22 06:01:00 -
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Good idea, but all the good Pirate corps honour there word anyways, I know Neg 10 do and The Tuskers, good idea for the lesser known pirate corps and newer pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.07.22 09:48:00 -
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Astavia wrote:Good idea, but all the good Pirate corps honour there word anyways, I know Neg 10 do and The Tuskers, good idea for the lesser known pirate corps and newer pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy
I agree for the most part, but if a pirate corporation moves to a new region, most of their new "neighbours" won't be aware of them, that they honour ransoms etc, at least for the first few months.
With how many bloggers and podcasters we have in-house, as well as how far our members roam & are active compared to the average pirate corporation (~50j roams are pretty usual), we have more people who are aware of us all around New Eden - we're often convoed whilst roaming or greeted (gracefully or otherwise ) for this to benefit pirate corporations of all shapes & sizes.
Thanks for the comments though. |
Elias Greyhand
Potentially Irresponsible Northern Strike
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:23:00 -
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Astavia wrote:...pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy
The irony of that is more delicious than cake. |
Cpt Roghie
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.22 11:41:00 -
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Elias Greyhand wrote:Astavia wrote:...pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy The irony of that is more delicious than cake.
but the cake is a lie! Zzzzzzzz.
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Astroniomix
Thorn Project Black Thorne Alliance
100
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Posted - 2012.07.22 16:51:00 -
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Elias Greyhand wrote:Astavia wrote:...pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy The irony of that is more delicious than cake. A long time ago, many pirate corps actualy were "honorable". And the ones that weren't got chased out by everyone else.
But then people got smart and stopped getting caught at much and the pirates began running out of targets and got desparate. Most closed up shop and the rest had to resort to "collect ransom and shoot anyway" or "just kill it". |
Jaxley
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.07.22 18:16:00 -
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Tuskers have always kept their word and I wouldn't say that we got chased out just yet by anyone. Though we don't claim to be "honorable", as we typically don't mind jumping on defenseless ships and are no strangers to harassing local highsec miners; the term is too blurry to make that claim in our case. But it's true that we've got less people who mainly or exclusively depend on PvP to generate income these days.
Maybe it's far fetched, but I wouldn't mind if people venturing into lowsec knew about our service and had an option to engage in fair and secure ransom negotiations if they got caught. We'll see. http://twitch.tv/EVEJaxley |
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.22 23:34:00 -
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Good thinking. Hope it works out. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.23 01:19:00 -
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a public ejection... |
lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.07.23 01:42:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:a public ejection...
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.23 02:05:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:La Nariz wrote:a public ejection... Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
felony |
Dav Slinker
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
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Posted - 2012.07.23 02:17:00 -
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It is an interesting Idea but I am slightly concerned for the amount of time and complication this would add to a ransom. Lets face it some of the people that pay ransoms aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, and sometimes you are working under some sort of pressure with regards to how long you can spend ransoming someone.
I'd like to hear some of the experiences others have had using this service before I give it a try to be honest. Nyan Cat Pirate Recruitment
Nyan Cat CEO Blog |
Alice Saki
Analog Folk SRS.
705
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:03:00 -
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These guys can be trusted, Look forward to testing this ^_^ Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, GINGER PRIDE xD Oh and PICKLES! |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:10:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Elias Greyhand wrote:Astavia wrote:...pirate corps to get a rep up for being trustworthy The irony of that is more delicious than cake. A long time ago, many pirate corps actualy were "honorable". And the ones that weren't got chased out by everyone else. But then people got smart and stopped getting caught as much and the pirates began running out of targets and got desparate. Most closed up shop and the rest had to resort to "collect ransom and shoot anyway" or "just kill it".
Game was also alot smaller, I biomassed quite a few characters early on as I kept getting found all across EVE. Had to behave, or go under the radar. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.07.23 16:04:00 -
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a decent idea for a number of situations. Will take a lot of catching on for it to get into full swing though. To all everyone concerned over the fairness involving the H/O disqualification https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113351&find=unread |
jimmyjam
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate Clockwork Pineapple
50
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Posted - 2012.07.23 16:55:00 -
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As much as i like you guys i get a feeling this wont turn out good for some. |
Bfoster
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:47:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:a public ejection... Where do I sign up for this?
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Strider Hiryu
ICEBOX. Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 20:00:00 -
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Neg 10 honors ransoms. No need for these jokers if your swinging by Rancer. :) |
Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.07.23 20:30:00 -
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Strider Hiryu wrote:Neg 10 honors ransoms. No need for these jokers if your swinging by Rancer. :)
Our service covers all systems in the eve universe. Pilots that leave their home system on occasion may find it useful. |
Strider Hiryu
ICEBOX. Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 20:54:00 -
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Do you cover things bigger than frigs? |
Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.07.23 21:25:00 -
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Sure! We'll even cover insta locking t3's if you can manage to find one off of a gate or station. |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:54:00 -
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lol Rabble Rabble!! |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.07.24 04:58:00 -
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Neg Ten are offering a service in return, while you are wasting your time trying to steal people's ransoms our third party piracy service will be available to all Tusker pilots. To ensure your ships and mods are fully maintained simply contract your ships and mods to myself or another neg ten representative.
There will of course be a small (large) administrative fee to cover this service. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
659
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Posted - 2012.07.24 06:54:00 -
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I'm confused by your sig. Should I pay you isk for providing advertisement for our corp, or should I demand that you pay for using our brand? Hmm. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.07.24 07:24:00 -
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cool idea, long overdue.
+1 support Arydanika:-á"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet www.noirmercs.com Noir. Academy now recruiting |
Ra Jackson
PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2012.07.24 10:19:00 -
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Cool idea.
Strider Hiryu wrote:Do you cover things bigger than frigs?
You mean, opposed to you? Why all the Neg Ten hate? |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.07.24 11:16:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Cool idea. Strider Hiryu wrote:Do you cover things bigger than frigs? You mean, in contrast to you? Why all the Neg Ten hate?
To put it simply when it turns out to be a scam (and it will despite denials to come) the resultant backlash will hit everyone's ability to ransom as the trust will disappear. Which means it's going to be another 5 years of proving we honour all ransoms to repair the damage.
Additional note: If you are offered a ransom by neg ten and ask to use this service expect a one way trip to the clone bay as an immediate and definite response.
Save your stuff pay us directly. |
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