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Olivor
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.07.14 19:23:00 -
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Laughing while evacuating half my stuff to high sec.
NOT THAT I DON'T 100% TRUST GOONS.
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Kieselguhr Kid
Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.14 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kieselguhr Kid on 14/07/2010 19:32:38 hilariously enough, we literally had 0% to do with evicting Defiant except for the fleet of 15 we sent after the fact
not that we're not chestbeating anyway, though (it's CAOD, if you're not ****posting you're not posting)
e: however, it *was* funny watching reds turn into neutrals in real time as corps dropped out of the alliance. you definitely don't see that every day!
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FOEHAMMER006
Caldari Domini Umbrus DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.07.14 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gnosis19
Originally by: FOEHAMMER006
Originally by: Selma Body Edited by: Selma Body on 14/07/2010 17:51:58
Originally by: FOEHAMMER006 I have to say, it is kind of funny reading this thread and watching Goonies thump their chest, but all in all they needed people to hand them space? Lol.
Yes they give goons/test space free that they made you pay for.
Trust me, I wouldn't pay for crappy french space. But sure!
But hey, maybe to solve things I'll re-invite their dipo to the channel? Maybe that will fix things? Or is butt hurting still happening?
DEFI4-4NT already paid for 'crappy french space', first through renting from TCF and second through buying an outpost and exclusive rights to a system which has now been forcefully removed from you.
Nothing has been forcefully removed from ME. But I guess maybe this alliance. --------------------------------
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tank335
Gallente HardRock Mining Corp The Genesis Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.14 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gnosis19
Don't get me wrong, there were some great guys in DEFY who I enjoyed flying with. Every minute of it.
But time after time, the leadership let the alliance down. Whether that was because of the inactive forums, the unfulfilled promise of ship replacements, general poor planning or lack of training for the newer players, they failed on a lot of counts to make DEFY more than just a group of underfunded low to medium-skilled individuals, which isn't enough to fly in 0.0.
The thing is, when I was in DEFY, we had Call To Arms ops with 7 people x'ing and more than that sitting and ratting in home systems. We had an op where we took 12 people mostly in T1 Cruisers and Frigates to field against PL at the peak of their power.
We had POS's which weren't fuelled correctly, sovereignty in key station systems held by 3-4 POS's, POS's on r64s with harvesters offlined. DEFY just had severe issues in leadership with too many people expecting too many other people to do everything.
And then of course was the way they treated IZK, after we had bought 10 POS's to spam XZH and 9-4, after we had consistantly x'd for every op, the leadership thought that we were the troublemakers, not the inactive and lazy ratting and mining corps which contributed nothing to the alliance.
DEFY is just a textbook example of how not to run an alliance. Hopefully with a bit of work you can go back to high-sec, trim your fat, implement a proper leadership structure with people who understand what they're doing, and get a much stronger backbone working.
For this to happen though, you'd need a much stronger leadership chain (not just Kypp and Redia with all the power), more core corps (if you only trust one corp, you shouldn't be an alliance) and a bit of trust for those outside of INSU. Oh, and recruitment standards which don't let the lazies in, and don't let them stay.
Myself and Alex are ex-members, we know how DEFY works (or, doesn't).
had to reread the title - thought you were talking about On The Rocks (ICE) while i was reading this
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 22:44:00 -
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Finally. Good to see TCF finally get some sense. ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
Originally by: CCP Navigator Confirming that I am the best poster.
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Berneh
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.07.14 22:57:00 -
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lol when i was in tnt i wanted to kill you guys like everyday, pitty im not there there now, it sounds like fun :D
BFF Deklein <3 XxXx
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Alexzandros
Caldari The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency Imajiaca
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Posted - 2010.07.15 00:02:00 -
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Still waiting on someone to claim the Ms Kypp corpse prize, see my earlier post!
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Lord Accio
Amarr Frontier Explorations Inc. Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:04:00 -
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Bye defy. If any Defy actually read this, Keep up the smack in local. Lots of lolz.
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Tez Saurus
Amarr Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Imigo Montoya "-TCF sold an outpost to DEFY, it took them 8 monthes to pay 15B for it whereas they got plenty of moon ressources (estimated to more than 5B/month of benefit) to do so"
The agreement was to take this long to pay @ 2.5 bill per month, so those who say we "didn't pay our mortgage" have no idea what they're talking about. We kept up our part of the bargain, no?
No, I guess. By that math it sounds like you were, in fact, a few months behind.
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PipingHotCookies
Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.07.15 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tez Saurus
Originally by: Imigo Montoya "-TCF sold an outpost to DEFY, it took them 8 monthes to pay 15B for it whereas they got plenty of moon ressources (estimated to more than 5B/month of benefit) to do so"
The agreement was to take this long to pay @ 2.5 bill per month, so those who say we "didn't pay our mortgage" have no idea what they're talking about. We kept up our part of the bargain, no?
No, I guess. By that math it sounds like you were, in fact, a few months behind.
It's pretty complicated. We should probably get Akita T in here to confirm this.
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Ganthritor
Minmatar Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2010.07.15 06:58:00 -
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So is it really true and final? Defi4nt finally getting cut off of the pet-leash to starve and die? Man, I've been waiting for this since autumn of '08. Took you look enough TCF; should've let'em rod and die back in Omist already.
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Tyby
Gallente KANTAI HIKAGE White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 09:03:00 -
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Defy was a terrible alliance it's true, but hey, from what i remember, they had more ppl in nc gangs then MH for example; also not giving them few days to evac for some "leadership crap" is so BFF...
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Hyzenthlay Yarrow
Minmatar Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.07.15 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tyby Defy was a terrible alliance it's true, but hey, from what i remember, they had more ppl in nc gangs then MH for example; also not giving them few days to evac for some "leadership crap" is so BFF...
White Noise systems and fights are at the far end of NC space for MH. We came if Razor or MM actually asks for help but otherwise by the time MH could ever get organized and get there the fighting was usually done. If you meant during the SC invasion, there were always decent numbers of MH in the NC fleets, depending on time zone, especially in caps.
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Tyby
Gallente KANTAI HIKAGE White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hyzenthlay Yarrow
Originally by: Tyby Defy was a terrible alliance it's true, but hey, from what i remember, they had more ppl in nc gangs then MH for example; also not giving them few days to evac for some "leadership crap" is so BFF...
White Noise systems and fights are at the far end of NC space for MH. We came if Razor or MM actually asks for help but otherwise by the time MH could ever get organized and get there the fighting was usually done. If you meant during the SC invasion, there were always decent numbers of MH in the NC fleets, depending on time zone, especially in caps.
i was thinking more of the tri campain
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Kadean
Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.15 13:24:00 -
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Looking forward to kicking these giant incompetant, mouthy bunch of whinging fail alliance entities, been waiting along time to see these guys/women (if you can call mys kyppe one) burn.
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Altaica Amur
Gallente The Elliance
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Posted - 2010.07.15 14:09:00 -
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Quote: i was thinking more of the tri campain Wink
Yeah I recall that, I think lightning must have struck or something but for a breif moment Defy looked like it has people who cared and were willing to x up, it didn't last long though and a short while later during the CR campain that sorta thing was nowhere to be seen. I suppose that's probably part of why it took TCF so long to do this, for a moment it seemed like Defy might have the potential to become something, hence the opportunity we were provided in CR. Thing is even if the few months between the two campains most of the regular PvPers and pretty much all of the FCs left.
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Rand Paul
Caldari ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.15 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kadean fail
who sponsored you in
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eKuivocal
Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.15 21:01:00 -
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Just die DEFY, just die...
Redia is quite possibly the biggest tool ever, in game.
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The Slayer
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.15 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Olivor Laughing while evacuating half my stuff to high sec.
NOT THAT I DON'T 100% TRUST GOONS.
Save yourself the hassle and move it all now, I personally guarantee you lot will be the first against the wall. :commissar:
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Entaran
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.16 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: eKuivocal Redia is quite possibly the biggest tool ever, in game.
cosmoboy?
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Faekurias
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 13:52:00 -
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Stalking Ent ITT
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Dr Cheeto
Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.07.16 15:10:00 -
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The reason you're getting kicked out is cuz you're ****ty at math and we're prettier.
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zakear dragon
Caldari BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.16 15:54:00 -
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ever since my corp left defy (i know omg i was in defy) we have been red to them (defy leadership big dramma after we left) since that time we have been useing the time to get cheap kills and play trade games in there station
soo yea im glad TCF and the rest of the NC intend to pew them makes the job alot easier
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CiNi
Caldari Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.17 08:35:00 -
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Posting in an "NC resets its closest allies shocker" thread
BFF !!
You dun goof'd
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Darth Kailyn
Minmatar BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.17 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: CiNi Posting in an "NC resets its closest allies shocker" thread
BFF !!
You dun goof'd
LOL Scalding Pass
and I fail at posting this I know.
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Murk Loar
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.18 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kadean Looking forward to kicking these giant incompetant, mouthy bunch of whinging fail alliance entities, been waiting along time to see these guys/women (if you can call mys kyppe one) burn.
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FOEHAMMER006
Caldari Domini Umbrus DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.07.18 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kadean Looking forward to kicking these giant incompetant, mouthy bunch of whinging fail alliance entities, been waiting along time to see these guys/women (if you can call mys kyppe one) burn.
Really? Because I've been waiting bored for some of you goons to come around and actually fight. --------------------------------
my posts reflect me. g0t w34d?
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