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Starfinder Smith
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Posted - 2010.07.13 06:35:00 -
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Nice try CSM! I fully understand how much thought and effort you have put into this attempt. Now all we have to do,as players, is get them to listen to what you have to say.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.13 07:11:00 -
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I'd love to know where the management is getting their statistical data from and how they verified that it was applicable to a persistent MMO like EVE. I sure hope they don't use data from single release games, because those are not comparable.
Single games are throw away products, fire and forget, release on the market and make a new one, if popular make sequel or expansion. But a MMO like EVE does not forget the old releases, they're still around and pile up. And if they're less than excellent, they form a huge junkyard of not quite finished features where the lone new content is slapped on.
Every expansion and every new feature for a persistent MMO needs to fit in seamlessly into the whole game and form a new or expanded single game with many features. Every intended game style needs to be deep enough that a player can fully immerse oneself in it. Failure to do so will result in people hopping from feature to feature only to realize how quickly they get bored of them, burn out, quit and never come back.
Think of all the old classics people still play after 10 or more years. These are games that have reached a level of excellence that makes people replay it even if the technology in them is old. The game design isn't.
Keeping players playing is essential for a healthy and reliable player base, resulting in a high resistance to revenue loss at the appearance of rival products and a low risk environment for investments. With the design strategy CCP is currently running they are increasing the risk of a total product failure. The MMO market is no place to become complacent. -------- All I want is a better mankind.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.13 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ori Blake They probably are worse for EVE. Everyone is annoyed about them adding new stuff, but the player community needs to realize that EVE specifically drives more people off than comparable games. Part of it is the poor UI and learning curve, part of it is the community being toxic, and part of it is the PVP focus.
I think if the community had a better attitude and stopped focusing so much on HTFU and tears you might see a lot more player retention. The other two can't change, but a lot of EVE's bad rep is due to us too. The best way to keep people in is to invest in them. I mean, this has to be one of the only games I've played where the community delights in running certain types of players out of the game rather than try and integrate them and help them deal with the PvP focus.
Thing is, this game was literally created for the purpose of harvesting tears. A bunch of dudes from Iceland got annoyed that they couldn't grief in Ultima Online, and decided to make their own game where griefing was encouraged. If Eve loses that, all it'd be left with is a decent market simulator and a third-rate PvE experience, run through the worst UI in a major release this decade. Eve has to acquire and retain new players with that as a constraint, it's not something that can be set aside.
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Xiomaraa
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Posted - 2010.07.13 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Xiomaraa on 13/07/2010 08:47:38 To the CSM members, have you consider resigning? (Thank for the hard work BTW, Too bad 90% not heard by CCP for the 5th time)
Old playerÆs use Plex, Plex comes from new players who want ISK. Hence CCP needs new players.
With that said, it still a joke at how they just say well we "won't" fix anything cause we are busy with other "cool broken" stuff.
I saw we all take our spaceships to eve gate and mass destruct to show our disappointment.
at the moment I feel like CCP saying you don't pay for expansion so STFU and deal with the bugs they bring.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.13 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal Vuk Lau showed them a video of how to deal with module lag (which actually seemed to surprise some of the devs at CCP), and we talked to the developers who actually work on the cluster code.
Is this video available to the public?
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2010.07.13 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 13/07/2010 11:47:18 I dont know if its public. It was a Morsus Mihi video on how to deal with lag. It doesnt really contain anything shocking or super secret, which is why its surprising that CCP didnt seem to be aware of all of it.
* * * Director of Education :: EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.07.13 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ori Blake
Quote: 13:30-14:30 Winter 2010 CCP Attendees: Kristoffer û CCP Soundwave, Guilhem û CCP Ytterbium, Kristjan Blondal û CCP Bettik This session discussed an as-yet undisclosed new feature to be included in the Winter 2010 expansion. In general, the CSM was skeptical about the necessity and potential success of this expansion. A number of concerns were raised, potential impacts identified, and alternate ideas suggested. The inclusion of such an expansion appears to conflict with what was said in the previous session regarding the focus of the Winter Expansion.
So they are adding a brand-new feature that you guys aren't fond of and is going to impact the game in a new way as opposed to the goal stated, which is refining PI, polishing, and prepping for future expansions?
Without going into details on what it is...should we worry?
Hmmm, could this be the arena stuff that was rejected by the cluster before? If so I need more popcorn. Waaay more popcorn.
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Gardaz
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Posted - 2010.07.13 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal I dont know if its public. It was a Morsus Mihi video on how to deal with lag. It doesnt really contain anything shocking or super secret, which is why its surprising that CCP didnt seem to be aware of all of it.
Uploaded it here.
Originally by: Vuk Lau [...]dev A-team being stunned by Blazde's "How to cycle guns in lag" video. Quote Dev X: Can we keep the video, we heard there is something called "stucked modules" but were never able to actually see it. You dont want to hear my reply
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.13 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gardaz
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal I dont know if its public. It was a Morsus Mihi video on how to deal with lag. It doesnt really contain anything shocking or super secret, which is why its surprising that CCP didnt seem to be aware of all of it.
Uploaded it here.
Originally by: Vuk Lau [...]dev A-team being stunned by Blazde's "How to cycle guns in lag" video. Quote Dev X: Can we keep the video, we heard there is something called "stucked modules" but were never able to actually see it. You dont want to hear my reply
Thanks! May I suggest eve-files.com as well? No nag-screens/stupid popups and automatic torrent! :)
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Hussain
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.07.13 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Hussain on 13/07/2010 15:52:05 After reading the report and seeing CCP plans about:
- No changes on the actual FW mechanics for at least one and a half year. - Generally not changing any of the other broken/unbalancing issues. - Incarna - No I dont need another glorified chat window, I like spaceship games. - Dust - Why should I support a game in which I wont play but affects the game I do play on is really beyond me.
Its obvious to me the CCP just want my money to do things I am not really intrested on. I decided to stop my alt accounts, my main will remain for the time been as I do have personal friends in the game. But even that might not last long.
Great work by the CSM as they did show us how "player friendly" CCP is really like.
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.07.13 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Ori Blake They probably are worse for EVE. Everyone is annoyed about them adding new stuff, but the player community needs to realize that EVE specifically drives more people off than comparable games. Part of it is the poor UI and learning curve, part of it is the community being toxic, and part of it is the PVP focus.
I think if the community had a better attitude and stopped focusing so much on HTFU and tears you might see a lot more player retention. The other two can't change, but a lot of EVE's bad rep is due to us too. The best way to keep people in is to invest in them. I mean, this has to be one of the only games I've played where the community delights in running certain types of players out of the game rather than try and integrate them and help them deal with the PvP focus.
Thing is, this game was literally created for the purpose of harvesting tears. A bunch of dudes from Iceland got annoyed that they couldn't grief in Ultima Online, and decided to make their own game where griefing was encouraged. If Eve loses that, all it'd be left with is a decent market simulator and a third-rate PvE experience, run through the worst UI in a major release this decade. Eve has to acquire and retain new players with that as a constraint, it's not something that can be set aside.
I'm not saying for the gameplay to change focus or strip the PvP elements from the game. It's more that players can make it a lot worse and drive people from the game, by their attitudes towards others. You can still have PvP without a griefing mindset, even open world PvP.
If you don't want them to add fluff instead of meaningful changes, help retain people. You are not going to do that by acting like a tool each time someone dies in a barge in Hulkageddon, or constantly HTFUing.
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DogSlime
Caldari Wilde Cards
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Posted - 2010.07.13 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: DogSlime on 13/07/2010 16:22:12 I just re-activated my account on the 5 day offer. Won't be subscribing beyond that, though. I'm not going to bother downloading the new client.
Looking at the forums, it seems that my reasons for originally unsubscribing my two accounts are vindicated.
I started my first account in 2006, then added a second in 2007. I lapsed both of them at the end of 2008 when it seemed clear that CCP had abandoned many of the things I was enthusiastic about.
In the time between early 2006 and late 2008, I had spent around ú450 on EVE. Was it worth that much money? Well, no - there were some big Quality Of Service issues and the new features like Faction Warfare had been released half-baked and then never followed up. Lag was terrible even in relatively small fights. I kept paying because I had faith that CCP would sort it out.
Essentially, I was paying because I was investing in what EVE was going to be. There were problems, but they would eventually be sorted out.
I lost faith. I thought that CCP were just using EVE as a cash generator to finance other projects. They also re-wrote history to suit their changing policies. Faction Warfare was supposed to be an ongoing development - a bit pointless to begin with, but later things would be epic. That changed to "faction warfare is just for newbies to get their feet wet before joining a 0.0 alliance. Working as intended. No more development in the pipeline."
Crippling lag was always on the verge of being conquered for good (We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia...)
Now I see that there will be very little development on EVE until 2011... but they're always late.
So, with all the problems that caused me to lose faith in the first place still very much in evidence, why would I pay another ú350+ on a very vague promise that all will eventually be well?
If I hadn't unsubscribed in 2008, I would have spent around ú700 by now. I can buy a LOT of games for ú700.
How many of you have kept the faith and kept paying because, whilst you might have been less than happy with EVE as it is now, you trusted that EVE would be something EPIC soon? How much have you invested?
The infuriating part for me is that EVE could be great. EVE could be so good that I'd be prepared to sign up for ten years... but with CCP at the helm, it won't be. It won't be. EVER.
You're paying a lot of money for a sub-par product. It won't change until at least 2011, and realistically it won't change at all.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ori Blake I'm not saying for the gameplay to change focus or strip the PvP elements from the game. It's more that players can make it a lot worse and drive people from the game, by their attitudes towards others. You can still have PvP without a griefing mindset, even open world PvP.
If you don't want them to add fluff instead of meaningful changes, help retain people. You are not going to do that by acting like a tool each time someone dies in a barge in Hulkageddon, or constantly HTFUing.
I don't think we really disagree. I'm just saying, that between the brutality inherent in the game's design, and the level of community decay inherent in any large group of gamers, I don't expect better. I try not to be a jerk towards people who are new to the game and don't "get" Eve, but expecting the entire forum community to be decent, reasonable folks is like expecting world peace to break out after Woodstock.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:12:00 -
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PVP in Eve is generally good. Better than any other game out there. The problem is that the giant battles, the crowning moments of glory, fall flat on their face currently.
PVE in Eve is... not so good. Better than it used to be, but still lacking. Honestly, I think part of what it is lacking is real boss fights. There aren't any true boss characters in PVE. A boss always does something different than the other NPCs. It isn't just another character with more tank and more DPS, it uses different weapons, has special weapons, and has a higher functioning AI so it responds to the character more than the charge-n-shoot of the rest of the NPCs.
Sov, both 0.0 and faction, is less painful than the POS warfare of old, but still is lacking.
PI just sucks.
CCP is able to float by on these things, but not for terribly long. Definitely not another year without showing some interest in fixing things.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: DogSlime Edited by: DogSlime on 13/07/2010 16:22:12 I just re-activated my account on the 5 day offer. Won't be subscribing beyond that, though. I'm not going to bother downloading the new client.
Looking at the forums, it seems that my reasons for originally unsubscribing my two accounts are vindicated.
I started my first account in 2006, then added a second in 2007. I lapsed both of them at the end of 2008 when it seemed clear that CCP had abandoned many of the things I was enthusiastic about.
In the time between early 2006 and late 2008, I had spent around ú450 on EVE. Was it worth that much money? Well, no - there were some big Quality Of Service issues and the new features like Faction Warfare had been released half-baked and then never followed up. Lag was terrible even in relatively small fights. I kept paying because I had faith that CCP would sort it out.
Essentially, I was paying because I was investing in what EVE was going to be. There were problems, but they would eventually be sorted out.
I lost faith. I thought that CCP were just using EVE as a cash generator to finance other projects. They also re-wrote history to suit their changing policies. Faction Warfare was supposed to be an ongoing development - a bit pointless to begin with, but later things would be epic. That changed to "faction warfare is just for newbies to get their feet wet before joining a 0.0 alliance. Working as intended. No more development in the pipeline."
Crippling lag was always on the verge of being conquered for good (We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia...)
Now I see that there will be very little development on EVE until 2011... but they're always late.
So, with all the problems that caused me to lose faith in the first place still very much in evidence, why would I pay another ú350+ on a very vague promise that all will eventually be well?
If I hadn't unsubscribed in 2008, I would have spent around ú700 by now. I can buy a LOT of games for ú700.
How many of you have kept the faith and kept paying because, whilst you might have been less than happy with EVE as it is now, you trusted that EVE would be something EPIC soon? How much have you invested?
The infuriating part for me is that EVE could be great. EVE could be so good that I'd be prepared to sign up for ten years... but with CCP at the helm, it won't be. It won't be. EVER.
You're paying a lot of money for a sub-par product. It won't change until at least 2011, and realistically it won't change at all.
The sad thing is, you missed the ~6 month interval last year when lag was pretty much fixed, and things were generally awesome. Look at the forums this time last year - we were much happier
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DogSlime
Caldari Wilde Cards
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Posted - 2010.07.13 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
The sad thing is, you missed the ~6 month interval last year when lag was pretty much fixed, and things were generally awesome. Look at the forums this time last year - we were much happier
Indeed
If CCP get EVE sorted out, I'll be delighted to play again. I just can't bring myself to financially contribute to CCP if they're not properly committed to their product.
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Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:22:00 -
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2-3 years ago i used to rave about this game to anyone who would listen, now i dont even mention it.
CCP remember a happy customer tells 3-5 people about a good experience an unhappy customer tells 100's about their bad experience.
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Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.13 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Terrigal on 13/07/2010 18:38:46 "Players will be required, when the new character creator will be released, to recreate all avatars in the new system. CCP will probably continue to provide the paid service of remaking avatars. CSM requested that CCP take measures to compensate charges imposed for ôold styleö portrait swaps that occur within a reasonable time-frame prior to the release of the new character creator, as it didnÆt seem fair to charge people for something that would be negated by the new avatar requirements."
THIS IS WHEN I QUIT - I dont care about a new avatar how does it help me in the game, it doesnt do anything of any benifit to anyone - Will new subscriptions when this is introduced pay for their character creation or is a money making excersice to fleece more money out of an already disgruntled existing player base?
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.13 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Terrigal Edited by: Terrigal on 13/07/2010 18:38:46 "Players will be required, when the new character creator will be released, to recreate all avatars in the new system. CCP will probably continue to provide the paid service of remaking avatars. CSM requested that CCP take measures to compensate charges imposed for ôold styleö portrait swaps that occur within a reasonable time-frame prior to the release of the new character creator, as it didnÆt seem fair to charge people for something that would be negated by the new avatar requirements."
THIS IS WHEN I QUIT - I dont care about a new avatar how does it help me in the game, it doesnt do anything of any benifit to anyone - Will new subscriptions when this is introduced pay for their character creation or is a money making excersice to fleece more money out of an already disgruntled existing player base?
Uh, OK look there's plenty to be discontented about but this really does seem a pretty trivial thing to get worked up about.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.07.13 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Terrigal Edited by: Terrigal on 13/07/2010 18:38:46 "Players will be required, when the new character creator will be released, to recreate all avatars in the new system. CCP will probably continue to provide the paid service of remaking avatars. CSM requested that CCP take measures to compensate charges imposed for ôold styleö portrait swaps that occur within a reasonable time-frame prior to the release of the new character creator, as it didnÆt seem fair to charge people for something that would be negated by the new avatar requirements."
THIS IS WHEN I QUIT - I dont care about a new avatar how does it help me in the game, it doesnt do anything of any benifit to anyone - Will new subscriptions when this is introduced pay for their character creation or is a money making excersice to fleece more money out of an already disgruntled existing player base?
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
To me it looks like this is a precursor to Incarna. You are asked to redesign your avatar because they'll be redesigning it for that system, and possibly generating it from your EVE avatar rather than having you make it completely from scratch.
The charging thing is just saying they wont be charging people within a short timeframe when this change goes live, in case they miss the update notes and pay to change it when they could just wait a day or two.
There's no charge to remake it when the update goes live I think, so you are probably misreading what this means.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.13 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
It's all a bit depressing. How can we fault CCP for reinvesting so much of their income into the game? Yet how can we praise them when the expenditure is producing so little benefit to it's customers?
Well on the bright side: at least we know where we stand now. All I can say is, Incarna had better be ****ing awesome, CCP, because if we've put up with your terrible game quality since December 09 and all we get to make up for it is talk in some stupid e-bar, then there will be hell to pay.
Start fixing **** now. Start telling us what you've fixed. Start telling us what you're going to fix next. Star Wars: The Old Republic launches soon, and those guys are gonna eat your lunch unless you shape the **** up.
Man... I hate to be able tell you I told you so . . . . Remember when everyone was saying "its a different group of devs..." "CCP isn't using all their resources on Incarna/Dust - Those are different dev groups..."
I *love* internet spaceships/drama/freeform game style... But not this crap.
This just feels like:
CSM: "We would like to look at features X, Y and Z, and see where you stand on fixing or iterating them as you told us you would do when you released them to us..." CCP: "LOL!" CSM: "What?" CCP: "LOL! STFU n00bs! HTFU!" CSM: "!?!"
To CCP: This is the best internet spaceships game going (at the moment). There is no guarantee that it will continue to be, especially with your attitude. I (don't) hate to break it to you, but Incarna and Dust are *not* relevant to your core subscriber base...
(Personally, without any player interaction planned more than what 2nd Life would deliver, why the f88k would anyone bother?).
To quote Malcanis again...
Originally by: Malcanis Start fixing **** now. Start telling us what you've fixed. Start telling us what you're going to fix next.
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Heroldyn Yhamad
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Posted - 2010.07.13 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Heroldyn Yhamad on 13/07/2010 21:10:50 Edited by: Heroldyn Yhamad on 13/07/2010 21:10:08 Edited by: Heroldyn Yhamad on 13/07/2010 21:09:58
Originally by: Asuri Kinnes Man... I hate to be able tell you I told you so . . . . Remember when everyone was saying "its a different group of devs..." "CCP isn't using all their resources on Incarna/Dust - Those are different dev groups..."
You are confusing things a bit. Dust and Incarna are very seperate entities. Dust is a product outside of Eve Online and being developed from a seperate developer group in China. Incarna is a future Eve Online Feature and is being developed by the EVE developers for that reason. As far as I remember (and I might aswell be wrong), CCP never claimed that the Dev-Team working on the Incarna feature were outside of the EVE development team. |
d4shing
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Posted - 2010.07.13 21:38:00 -
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As DV said, it's pretty obvious that players can't credibly threaten to quit en masse.
It might be credible, though, for people to boycott for a single month. Say something like December, when people have holidays/exams/general RL stuff. I like the game, I'm not gonna pretend that I'm gonna quit immediately over their broken content development strategy, tho my interest is waning.
But I've got three accounts, and if I thought cancelling them all for a month along with a suitable number of other people would get them to listen, I'd do it. I'd think of it as training Excellence to level 5 (it's a rank 7 skill).
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Red Raider
Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2010.07.13 21:46:00 -
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I just want to go on record with a bet that CCP will continue to clean up PI in order for it to function properly and in a way that goes well with Dust. CCP will then say "see we fix old content expansion".
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.07.13 23:21:00 -
[85]
Quote: Even though CCP would like to change Low Sec it will not happen in the next eighteen months.
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Shuckstar
Gallente Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2010.07.14 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Terrigal 2-3 years ago i used to rave about this game to anyone who would listen, now i dont even mention it.
CCP remember a happy customer tells 3-5 people about a good experience an unhappy customer tells 100's about their bad experience.
Yep was same as you, boasting how awesome EvE is. Now if a friend asked me about it or anyone i would tell them not to bother. I mean there Vids are good for the expansions but i point out to friends that game would crash, and you be lucky to get into game if involved in big fleet fights. Hell it pointless trying to fight with 100 in system these days.
You are going to fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
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Chiana Torrou
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Posted - 2010.07.14 02:36:00 -
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I've been playing eve since 2003/4 and I can honestly say that if I was still having to pay real money, instead of being able to buy PLEXes with isk, I would have cut my losses some time ago.
The only thing that keeps me here now is the fact that the game is - in effect - only costing my time. Time spent chatting to friends while making my 80mil a week target.
The things that originally attracted me to the game have been left to wither on the vine and the new stuff always comes in broken and gets forgotten after 6 - 8 months.
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Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.14 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Terrigal Edited by: Terrigal on 13/07/2010 18:38:46 "Players will be required, when the new character creator will be released, to recreate all avatars in the new system. CCP will probably continue to provide the paid service of remaking avatars. CSM requested that CCP take measures to compensate charges imposed for ôold styleö portrait swaps that occur within a reasonable time-frame prior to the release of the new character creator, as it didnÆt seem fair to charge people for something that would be negated by the new avatar requirements."
From what i'm reading from the minutes it means CCP intends to charge all players $15 to change their face and if this is the case a further $X amount will be charged to create a full body once Incarnaa is launched. I actually pay to play and have been for 3 years on 2 accounts, this is my preferance as id rather spend the isk i make on more PVP ships. CCP will there be a standard face and body I wont have to pay for? or will we all be forced to participate whether we like it or not?
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I guess theyll never try for this hahaha
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Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.07.14 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kenpachi Viktor on 14/07/2010 06:24:41
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
We have always spent ~20-30% of our development time on bugs and hardening. As history should show there is always a typically a slew of improvements and fixes alongside each major expansion which matter to many players if not necessarily yourself personally always.
-Chronotis
From reading the minutes; best I understand; what the CSM were(are) asking for, is to do just bugs/hardening/spit 'n polish development, for a release cycle.
Personally, I would be happy with 1 "expansion" per year going to polishing older content. Even if it was 1 every other year.
Edit: Quote is from this post
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TriIIian
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: TriIIian on 14/07/2010 10:35:43 I dont understand why it is CCP think they need to wait for expansions before they can fix stuff. Why not have a seperate team working on making small fixes. A small patch every couple of weeks to fix probelms. Just show us your doing something about the existing problems. 18 months before any real fixes. How can they even think it's alright to say that.
Eve is a great game. I have never played one game for so long. It does seem like broken things never get looked at or fixed. After 12 months without sound I'm just glad my sound is working again.
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