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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Killer Gandry on 16/12/2004 03:14:35 After reading all the posts about it and reading them again I am safe to say BIG is the victim in this matter. Well nearly victim. This attempt by Fret to discredit BIG's reputation is something that can be considered harassement if we look closely at the UELA. If I were Tornsoul I would petition for harassement. Damaging a wellbuild reputation with lies and false accusations is one of the lowest formes of harassement and should be dealt with harshly. I can't be arsed that a corporation as BIG will even consider ruining their reputation for something like this. Fret can call himself very lucky that I am not the CEO or a member of BIG for I would have petitioned for harassement long ago.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Killer Gandry on 16/12/2004 03:14:35 After reading all the posts about it and reading them again I am safe to say BIG is the victim in this matter. Well nearly victim. This attempt by Fret to discredit BIG's reputation is something that can be considered harassement if we look closely at the UELA. If I were Tornsoul I would petition for harassement. Damaging a wellbuild reputation with lies and false accusations is one of the lowest formes of harassement and should be dealt with harshly. I can't be arsed that a corporation as BIG will even consider ruining their reputation for something like this. Fret can call himself very lucky that I am not the CEO or a member of BIG for I would have petitioned for harassement long ago.
Better to try and fail, then to fail due to not trying |
Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:16:00 -
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I think that petition for harassment is an excellent idea. If Fret is making this stuff up then GMs will have to rule on this. Tornsoul petition Fret for harassment plz.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:16:00 -
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I think that petition for harassment is an excellent idea. If Fret is making this stuff up then GMs will have to rule on this. Tornsoul petition Fret for harassment plz.
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Nike
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:17:00 -
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Its possible that Tornsoul from BIG isnt aware of a scam made by one of his members ( Tion ) and his buddy/alt Axee. Is it not ?
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Nike
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:17:00 -
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Its possible that Tornsoul from BIG isnt aware of a scam made by one of his members ( Tion ) and his buddy/alt Axee. Is it not ?
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 03:21:12 I did not have cold feet about the ammount of the character....remember i really lost this auction....but axee said he would allow my bid, i didnt want to pay the 750 million isk i would have bowed out after loosing. I felt as if axee were doing me a favor.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: Fret on 16/12/2004 03:21:12 I did not have cold feet about the ammount of the character....remember i really lost this auction....but axee said he would allow my bid, i didnt want to pay the 750 million isk i would have bowed out after loosing. I felt as if axee were doing me a favor.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Chucky
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:28:00 -
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This may or may not have slipped everyoneÆs attention, but has anyone checked FretÆs employment history. DoesnÆt really prove anything since it may not even be the original Fret, but it does add motives for screwing BIG.
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Chucky
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:28:00 -
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This may or may not have slipped everyoneÆs attention, but has anyone checked FretÆs employment history. DoesnÆt really prove anything since it may not even be the original Fret, but it does add motives for screwing BIG.
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:31:00 -
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lol i have nothing against BIG, Remeber it was not me who started this auction, i was just a bidder, who in atuality lost the auction. I was drawn into this mess, not the creator of it.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:31:00 -
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lol i have nothing against BIG, Remeber it was not me who started this auction, i was just a bidder, who in atuality lost the auction. I was drawn into this mess, not the creator of it.
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Mammy
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member.
Indeed it wasn't. The BIG member that handled this is a walking disaster.
I've been in a corp with him and he's had his account "borrowed" by his "friends" before while he's on "vacation" and yet he sees no problem that he has just left his corp wide open for corp theft from his supposed "friends". He got another one of his "friends" into the same corp as I was. He later admitted this guy was only looking to steal from the corp. Totally not impressed by this guy.
I see from his corp history that he was in BIG before. Why they would let someone of his caliber not once but twice into their corp is beyond me.
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Mammy
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 16/12/2004 02:07:55 Regardless of how this ends up, it wasn't handled well by the BIG member.
Indeed it wasn't. The BIG member that handled this is a walking disaster.
I've been in a corp with him and he's had his account "borrowed" by his "friends" before while he's on "vacation" and yet he sees no problem that he has just left his corp wide open for corp theft from his supposed "friends". He got another one of his "friends" into the same corp as I was. He later admitted this guy was only looking to steal from the corp. Totally not impressed by this guy.
I see from his corp history that he was in BIG before. Why they would let someone of his caliber not once but twice into their corp is beyond me.
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VeniVidi Vici
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:44:00 -
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Interesting Sun Tzu quote in your sig Fret. ------------------- http://cys.net.au |
VeniVidi Vici
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:44:00 -
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Interesting Sun Tzu quote in your sig Fret. ------------------- http://cys.net.au |
Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:50:00 -
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This is indeed very interesting and has kept me entertained all day long, reading logs after log. At first I was nearly convinced Fret was the victim. Then I read Torn's investigation. Now, according to this: http://big.wayland.dk/images/upload/Tion-WideShot.jpg you have already received the char, but in the screenshot, your words can sooo easily be out of context.... I'm somewhat convinced by Torn however. The PLOT THICKENS!!!!! continue on, I love a good drama.
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.12.16 03:50:00 -
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This is indeed very interesting and has kept me entertained all day long, reading logs after log. At first I was nearly convinced Fret was the victim. Then I read Torn's investigation. Now, according to this: http://big.wayland.dk/images/upload/Tion-WideShot.jpg you have already received the char, but in the screenshot, your words can sooo easily be out of context.... I'm somewhat convinced by Torn however. The PLOT THICKENS!!!!! continue on, I love a good drama.
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:21:00 -
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I assure you all that i have done nothing wrong, i have exausted all of my resourses to show the truth, i can gurantee that all i have provided in untampered and true, obviously no one will believe that....all i can say it that there must be some inconsistancy with Tion's screen shot...becuae i promice to GOD it is fake...i did not say that. I AM THE VICTIM HERE. Im loosing hair over this :(
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:21:00 -
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I assure you all that i have done nothing wrong, i have exausted all of my resourses to show the truth, i can gurantee that all i have provided in untampered and true, obviously no one will believe that....all i can say it that there must be some inconsistancy with Tion's screen shot...becuae i promice to GOD it is fake...i did not say that. I AM THE VICTIM HERE. Im loosing hair over this :(
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:24:00 -
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get some sleep or do something else Fret. one way or another you will be famous in this game I think. i think that this will resolve itself eventually.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:24:00 -
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get some sleep or do something else Fret. one way or another you will be famous in this game I think. i think that this will resolve itself eventually.
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Free2Fly
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:25:00 -
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Fret, check the other thread on sell orders. I think I've shown two inconsistencies in the picture that prove it's fake. |
Free2Fly
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:25:00 -
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Fret, check the other thread on sell orders. I think I've shown two inconsistencies in the picture that prove it's fake. |
VeniVidi Vici
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:44:00 -
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and the plot thickens. this is somewhat as interesting as playing the game. can't wait to see who is screwing who in this drama... ------------------- http://cys.net.au |
VeniVidi Vici
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Posted - 2004.12.16 04:44:00 -
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and the plot thickens. this is somewhat as interesting as playing the game. can't wait to see who is screwing who in this drama... ------------------- http://cys.net.au |
Countess Mara
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Posted - 2004.12.16 05:08:00 -
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Free2fly brings up some very good points in the other thread. The flow of the convo in the ss does not work well, while fret's log makes perfect sense. Also, the isk was transferred to axee at 4:15 while the supposed go ahead was given at 4:21. It's possible the time stamps were changed after fret saw the ss, but tornsoul was given a copy before fret knew the ss existed, so tornsoul should be able to answer that question for us. One more question, the log reads as "I don't have it yet" then suddenly within seconds "I got it"(if we are to believe the ss) how was he able to log and check that quickly?
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Countess Mara
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Posted - 2004.12.16 05:08:00 -
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Free2fly brings up some very good points in the other thread. The flow of the convo in the ss does not work well, while fret's log makes perfect sense. Also, the isk was transferred to axee at 4:15 while the supposed go ahead was given at 4:21. It's possible the time stamps were changed after fret saw the ss, but tornsoul was given a copy before fret knew the ss existed, so tornsoul should be able to answer that question for us. One more question, the log reads as "I don't have it yet" then suddenly within seconds "I got it"(if we are to believe the ss) how was he able to log and check that quickly?
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 05:14:00 -
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I feel so stressed right now about all of this.... I truely wish all everyone could underastand what im going through here....I DID NOTHING WRONG, i was most cooperative with tornsoul, i have done all possible to show i am the victim here...It seems to me that BIG cares moe about protecting thier image than protecting the integrity of thier dealings. All iwanted in this was my character, but in stead im without the character or the isk i lost...Now all i can do is fight for my name....and i will exaust every avenue doing that
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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Fret
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Posted - 2004.12.16 05:14:00 -
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I feel so stressed right now about all of this.... I truely wish all everyone could underastand what im going through here....I DID NOTHING WRONG, i was most cooperative with tornsoul, i have done all possible to show i am the victim here...It seems to me that BIG cares moe about protecting thier image than protecting the integrity of thier dealings. All iwanted in this was my character, but in stead im without the character or the isk i lost...Now all i can do is fight for my name....and i will exaust every avenue doing that
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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