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Shahryar Trollunge
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Posted - 2010.06.14 04:20:00 -
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okay I have a lot of ships one ship I use when going ratting, and on missions with my friend is my vexor. It's role is sort of a drone boat. sorry if I get the fitting names wrong but High: 2 salvagers 2 tractor beams and a drone link augmentor medium: ys8 hydrocarbon 1 afterburners explosion dampening amplifier and a target painter lo: Damage control II 1600mm reinforced crystalline plates energized reactive membrane and a photonic cpu enhancer and rigs are a trimark armor pump 1 and a drone control range augmenter. now for the simple rats that I explore for this works well, mostly because my control range is well outside my target range. my ship isn't even in the battle.
Now This is not a battleship. and after the recent loss of my cheetah(my own fault) to the hands of a lone pirate in an assault cruiser I feel I need something a bit more protective. So I ask if this is translatable, into a Gallente Sin the things I would be adding to the mix if I did this build on a sin would be a cloaking device, a probe launcher, a code breaker and an analyzer.
So I already know that this is probably grow abuse of a black ops ship. And I know a lot of you will probably say it wont work, but I am curious about your opinions. and if It wont work, then tell me why. because I have been looking for a ship that combines my cheetah with my vexxor because those are really the only 2 ships I use and would rather not have to haul but back to where I keep my vexxor when i get lucky and find a hacking or archaeology site. Thank you for any assistance you may lend.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.06.14 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shahryar Troll unge
Yep.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Cast-a-Ways.
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Posted - 2010.06.14 05:37:00 -
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What is your goal??
Your mixing tank which is odd, you have a buffer for ratting...
I guess I am confused, is this a PvE ratter or an exploration ship, or a low sec/null sec belt ratter?
either way your idea if I see it right is more towards the Kronos, not the Sin. The Sin is highly specialized for black Ops, low dps and not a really good tank at all, but you can cloak and use the cov ops cyno generator which in all truthfulness is the only reason to run that ship.
The Kronos is a marauder and gets range bonus to its tractor beams, as well as putting out alot more damage with a better tank then a Sin could in its dreams. Since it has 4 turrets with 100% dmg bonus and 4 more highs for tractors and salvagers.
I do not think this is a troll... ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Darkwolf
Caldari TOG Empire DRACONIAN COVENANT
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Posted - 2010.06.14 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge So I already know that this is probably grow abuse of a black ops ship. And I know a lot of you will probably say it wont work, but I am curious about your opinions. and if It wont work, then tell me why. because I have been looking for a ship that combines my cheetah with my vexxor because those are really the only 2 ships I use and would rather not have to haul but back to where I keep my vexxor when i get lucky and find a hacking or archaeology site.
What the hell? This is one confused post.
Ok, from what I can decipher, you want to have two ships working together so you can do exploration. And you want a suitable fit for that. You don't want to use a Sin for exploration. Really, you don't.
Get a T3 strategic cruiser. You can fit that up for pretty much any exploration site AND it gets the scan bonuses you're after.
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2010.06.14 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Footoo Rama What is your goal??
Your mixing tank which is odd, you have a buffer for ratting...
I guess I am confused, is this a PvE ratter or an exploration ship, or a low sec/null sec belt ratter?
either way your idea if I see it right is more towards the Kronos, not the Sin. The Sin is highly specialized for black Ops, low dps and not a really good tank at all, but you can cloak and use the cov ops cyno generator which in all truthfulness is the only reason to run that ship.
The Kronos is a marauder and gets range bonus to its tractor beams, as well as putting out alot more damage with a better tank then a Sin could in its dreams. Since it has 4 turrets with 100% dmg bonus and 4 more highs for tractors and salvagers. I do not think this is a troll...
Kronos has 7 high slots. -----------------------------------------------
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Cataca
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Posted - 2010.06.14 09:25:00 -
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You have several misconceptions about the Sin.
a. Its not more stealthy than any random ship you can slap a non cov ops cloak on b. It doesn't offer protection, but sure as hell will get a lot of attention from pirates.
not to say that it costs several bucket-loads of money.
The only stealthy droneboat i know of is the Pilgrim I would suggest either shieldtanking, or armortanking, not both. And your description on how you use that ship sounded like you were letting the drones tank... which is.. uh.. well costly mostly i guess, and terribly ineffective.
Anyway, vexxor (or arby in that sense) + stealth = Pilgrim A domix is about as stealthy as a Sin really.
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aRidionn
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge
High: 2 salvagers 2 tractor beams and a drone link augmentor medium: ys8 hydrocarbon 1 afterburners explosion dampening amplifier and a target painter lo: Damage control II 1600mm reinforced crystalline plates energized reactive membrane and a photonic cpu enhancer and rigs are a trimark armor pump 1 and a drone control range augmenter.
wtf is this crap ??
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Ethan Blue
Domine Noctis Kamikaze Project
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:29:00 -
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I think you guys just got trolled, but just in case the OP is being genuine...
Dude, I think its a great idea! Very clever and not at all a waste of training time. Don't listen to them when they talk about T3 this or Commandship that. Nevermind that a HAC could do the job, or even some Recons... Using a Black Ops ship is pure win, total style and game on easy mode... I say do it, have fun and ignore the comments from the sidelines. Best of luck and please send me a mail when you get into Black Ops and get your skills up to support it and let me know if I am right about how well it works.
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Shahryar Trollunge
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Posted - 2010.06.14 15:41:00 -
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okay I wrote that late last night so pardon if my sleep deprived brain did not work properly,
That vexors main purpose is to salvage those low level exploration sites and on missions with my friend.
And in regards to the drones tanking, every now and again I lose 1 but I rarely lose any. I know if we went to low sec that might be a different story but that is why I am trying to work this out.
Basically I generally use my poor deceased cheetah for exploration and going into archaeology sites and hacking sites, but anyone who has flown one knows how well they stand up in a fight.
And I'd go back and get my vexxor or rifter but that is 5+ jumps on average, I didn't want to waste time that someone else could be using to hack the site I found.
which is why I wanted to merge the cheetah and vexxor, the reason I chose vexxor was because I have had the most success with it combat wise. even when I am solo and 60km away, leaving the drones to do the dirty work I rarely use one. The target link was sort of a desperate bid to do something useful instead of sit there and stare little green squares swirl around like angry bees.
I honestly would have gone with a t3 ship but I'd lose either drones or cloaking.
and also the reason I am doing this is so I can hack sites and start inventing and eventually make t3 ships to sell.
But I cant rely on the fact that my friend wont be there all the time. the reason for the necessity of cloak is so that I can sneak through low sec while doing this, launch probes cloak explore, warp to what I find then quickly do what I need to do and get out.
and just for reference sake: Troll: an internet user who sends inflammatory or provocative messages designed to elicit negative responses or start a flame-war.
This is neither inflammatory or provocative, if it was I'd be more insulting. I just suck at building ships lol.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.14 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge I am so confused
Get a T3 ship. You can fit it with covert ops cloak, probe launcher, and enough tank/DPS to do any low sec hacking/salvaging sites. Not sure if the proteus can maintain a decent drone bay/bandwidth with those configurations.
You will not get parts for building T3 though in doing these sites. Those come from wormhole space. _____________________________________________
-Sketch, Certified Pharmacist
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Darkwolf
Caldari TOG Empire DRACONIAN COVENANT
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Posted - 2010.06.14 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Darkwolf on 14/06/2010 22:15:23
Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge which is why I wanted to merge the cheetah and vexxor, the reason I chose vexxor was because I have had the most success with it combat wise. even when I am solo and 60km away, leaving the drones to do the dirty work I rarely use one. The target link was sort of a desperate bid to do something useful instead of sit there and stare little green squares swirl around like angry bees..
Right, now it's making more sense. Get a Pilgrim. Good drone boat, can use a covops cloak, and if you tweak the rigs a bit it makes an acceptable scanner.
Alternatively, I'd strongly suggest you still look at a T3 strategic cruiser anyway. Drones aren't a great idea if you're in lowsec, they are probable.
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.15 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge my vexor. It's role is sort of a drone boat.
Nice. _____
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2010.06.15 05:01:00 -
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Ethan Blue
Domine Noctis Kamikaze Project
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Posted - 2010.06.15 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hatsumi Kobayashi
Originally by: Shahryar Trollunge my vexor. It's role is sort of a drone boat.
Nice.
I hate it when someone else beats me to the perfect retort... Bravo... I could not have said it better myself...
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