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Herateis
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:39:00 -
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So okay, there is a number of tiers to ships. But then there's also bonuses to ships.
tiers cause ships in the same class to be weaker and stronger than each other, especially in terms of effective HPs. The higher tiers also have more slots.
So why not put a +2% to armor or shield cap bonus on lower tier ships per level?
They would have to grow into getting much benefit, and this would allow a continued reason to use them, despite facing people in other ships who have a 2-3 slot advantage and a 20% effective HP advantage. Something like that, and lower tier ships would stay competitive without making higher tier meaningless or lower tier ships, like say the arbitrator, meaningless, because then there is a reasonable cost/benefit strucutre between the ships, while lower tier still is inferior in terms of fitting and slots.
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ShahFluffers
Gallente Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:44:00 -
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Erm... the Arbitrator is far from useless. From what I understand, it actually makes quite a nice solo boat. And the tracking disruptor bonus makes it VERY nice in small gangs. _______________________
"Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:45:00 -
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CCP, this op doesn't make sense
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker CCP, this op doesn't make sense
CCP doesn't make sense. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008

Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Artimus Mousimus
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:51:00 -
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why should a lower tier ship have a better shield/ armor tank than its higher tier ship, in the end of the day you pay for what you get.
dunno about you but i use the lower tier ships more than i do the higher tier ships becuase of there flexibility and cheapness, phoon for example is like a swiss army knife you can set it up loads of diffrent ways plus its half the cost.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:59:00 -
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Because we all thow the Geddon is a terrible ship crying out for a boost
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.06.08 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Intense Thinker CCP, this op doesn't make sense
CCP doesn't make sense.
Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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Kieselguhr Kid
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Posted - 2010.06.08 03:33:00 -
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I hear the Hyperion is the best battleship c/d
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Colonel Evans
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Posted - 2010.06.08 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid I hear the Hyperion is the best battleship c/d
I hear the Dominix is the worst battleship ever c/d?
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ghosttr
Amarr Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.08 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Because we all thow the Geddon is a terrible ship crying out for a boost
The geddon is awesome, however the t2 geddon is made out 100% pure fail Prospecting! |
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.06.08 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: ghosttr
The geddon is awesome, however Black Ops Battleships are made out 100% pure fail
Fixed for you.
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2010.06.08 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Artimus Mousimus why should a lower tier ship have a better shield/ armor tank than its higher tier ship, in the end of the day you pay for what you get.
dunno about you but i use the lower tier ships more than i do the higher tier ships becuase of there flexibility and cheapness, phoon for example is like a swiss army knife you can set it up loads of diffrent ways plus its half the cost.
why should a ****** troll the forums? Oh right. Looking at the values of HP difference, I added 10% of the L5 bonus this would grant to its armor. It still comes up far short of the effective HP of the maller, and shorter than the omen. so Im dying to know how that makes it have more HP than a tier 3 ship? Im dying to know how you didnt die from not understanding how to breathe yet.
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.08 06:52:00 -
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Typhoon.
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ghosttr
Amarr Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
Originally by: ghosttr
The geddon is awesome, however Black Ops Battleships are made out 100% pure fail
Fixed for you.
Yeah your right there, the Black Ops Failboat doesn't even deserve to be related to the geddon. Abandoned like the bastard it is Prospecting! |

Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Herateis So okay, there is a number of tiers to ships. But then there's also bonuses to ships.
tiers cause ships in the same class to be weaker and stronger than each other, especially in terms of effective HPs. The higher tiers also have more slots.
So why not put a +2% to armor or shield cap bonus on lower tier ships per level?
They would have to grow into getting much benefit, and this would allow a continued reason to use them, despite facing people in other ships who have a 2-3 slot advantage and a 20% effective HP advantage. Something like that, and lower tier ships would stay competitive without making higher tier meaningless or lower tier ships, like say the arbitrator, meaningless, because then there is a reasonable cost/benefit strucutre between the ships, while lower tier still is inferior in terms of fitting and slots.
Often the lower tier ships are THE choice for other uses, like pvp. Arbitrator is a great example. I did a little pvp in all Amarr cruisers and I would prefer flying an Arbi over a Maller or Omen in 1 v.s. 1 by far. While the Omen is still better in large groups than a Maller. The Maller makes for a tough pve cruiser and maybe nice bait in pvp, but that is about it.
Same with Amarr BS: Armageddon and Apoc are in some pvp scenario's much better than an Abaddon (even though an Abby is a flying fortress and has its use in pvp). Help us to make parrots game related today! |

Ekrid
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Posted - 2010.06.08 08:44:00 -
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does anyone else notice the irony? the ships people are saying arent good for pvp are t he one taht have resist buffs
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Intense Thinker CCP, this op doesn't make sense
CCP doesn't make sense.
Yeah, but they're not trying to 
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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