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Enzee
Gallente Mos Vape Investments Mos Vape Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:18:00 -
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People keep commenting on butthurt, and making references to not watching.
I will attempt to speak with a clearer point than the other people who don't like this move. It's not that we don't want to watch, it's that we so desperately DO want to watch. As I stated on page 2, as a one off event, it was amusing for some and I can accept it. However if this becomes a commonplace thing in Round 1, it stops being fights and starts being a circus.
I love the tournament and that is why we joined it, to try to play with the pros. However, I feel it will take the shine off the tournament if fighting stops being the main method for advancing.
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Dextr Methorafan
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:19:00 -
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where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
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Xiong Yoshi
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
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Do people even realize just how difficult it would be to try and "monitor" such behavior? All that would happen is, instead of everyone getting an opportunity to see the colluding in local - it happens in back channels with the same end result.
Even if one doesn't like that colluding happens - get over it, CCP isn't going to invest the resources to attempt to stop it and would fail even if they did. A more likely result would be the end of the Tournaments...
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Lorkin Desal
Caldari Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Lorkin Desal on 05/06/2010 16:20:03
Originally by: CCP Soundwave best match ever
quoted for truth
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Tul Kezad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
[95]
Nice move HYDRA, you will win :)
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:20:00 -
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Oh god, the slippery slope, I'm falling...
D O O O W W W W W N N n n . . . --------
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 05/06/2010 16:25:00
Originally by: Abrazzar Oh god, the slippery slope, I'm falling...
D O O O W W W W W N N n n . . .
The slippery slope argument works here because the only reason this action is justified (and rightfully so, by the way) is because it's within the rules. Therefore, we should be make any argument with examples to worse things that can happen within the rules, without it being a fallacy.
One such example is all qualifying rounds getting bribed (so week one would be <match start> <mass suicide> <match end>). It is within the current rules, thus, not fallacious.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Christina Bamar on 05/06/2010 16:25:35
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The pictured transfer happened at 15:29
From local chat in the tourney system...
[ 2010.06.05 15:34:03 ] Admiral Goberius > for 1 bil isk now and 2 after the fight
So we transfered the isk 5 minutes before you guys made your offer?
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:27:00 -
[99]
nice modified chat logs
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:29:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
This!
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Versuvius Marii
CKSSA Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:30:00 -
[101]
Calling Chribba to the thread. :3
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MoHawk Nephilium
THE Perfectly Insane Tactical Unison Allied Forces
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:32:00 -
[102]
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 2 all da haters stfu NOOBIES, ur jus jelous cos we just wtfpowned and made isk from it lol u now nothing so shut you're mouth NO_obies
Remember FEMA? :) I do
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Bamar Edited by: Christina Bamar on 05/06/2010 16:25:35
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The pictured transfer happened at 15:29
From local chat in the tourney system...
[ 2010.06.05 15:34:03 ] Admiral Goberius > for 1 bil isk now and 2 after the fight
So we transfered the isk 5 minutes before you guys made your offer?
We transferred the isk before we lost any ships apparently
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Zero Space
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:33:00 -
[104]
Has CCP Claw managed to climb out of HYDRA's anus yet?
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Alexi Blue
Serra Technologies
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:34:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
Again, you do realise that this is nothing new? Meta-gaming and back-hand deals have been part of the tournament since roughly foreverą ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Rokoz
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[107]
Well now every match I'm watching I'm thinking it's fixed. Thanks for ruining something people have been looking forward to seeing. Wouldn't it also be best for the devs to keep a impartial stand on this? Instead of defending something thats a complete joke
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slickbak
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
[108]
I feel bad for non playing members of Agony Empire, kind of made you look like a bunch of punks, hope u get through to round of 32 to save some face.
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 05/06/2010 16:35:23
Originally by: Alexi Blue
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
The 3rd log appears to be Photoshoped, the balance number is a few pixels too high.
my dik is a few pixels 2 high inside ur MOM HAHAHHAAHAHAHHA
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King Gore
Sword and Pistol
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dextr Methorafan We want a contest not a craptest.
Cuz you totally speak for every one, amirite? - She holds me close and whispers wet, 'There are cannibals among us.' |
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monkeys elbow
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:36:00 -
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I really dont see the problem, its eve, so what our way of doing things is different than others, but aint that why we love it?
It really could backfire, they took a big risk for 3bill, IMO 3bill is little isk to the risk involved, and yeah so what if they did it, you think they are the first??? lol, the first to do it in full view of all the community maybe, but im sure there not the first.
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Lumy
Minmatar eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zero Space Has CCP Claw managed to climb out of HYDRA's anus yet?
It's very spacious and comfortable anus, you know?
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Spacepunk Aerowolf
Gallente Unity Of Legends
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Dextr Methorafan where is the connection to the game? Does the tourney decide SOV? Does it make changes in the market? Are the mass of players allowed to go to the tournament system?
Don't say its part of the game when it is obviously separated and only certain players are allowed to participate. And then the players have to be transported by the devs to get to the tourney system. The tournament is not a sandbox, its a contest with rules. If you are going to allow anything goes then have it in Jita so the rest of us can screw it up also.
The devs supporting this crap just makes it worse, don't expect any increase in participation or viewing in the future. We want a contest not a craptest.
Who is this "we" you speak of? And if you don't think stuff like this sparks increased interest in the game and/or tournament... well you're probably wrong. Heh.
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Clytamnestra
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
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Comparing the tourny to the regulated games of the real world. No, things like this doesn't happen as overtly in the real word.
But there are so few things in Eve that are regulated anyway. The markets have price fixing between industrial corporations and massive monopolies. Warfare is basically paying the police to look the other way.
Everything in Eve depends on the sandbox regulating itself. With what's at stake for the winners, these kinds of shenanigans are for the qualifiers only.
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:37:00 -
[115]
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
gg genos
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:38:00 -
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I wouldn't call it a bold move, it was however a clever move (and entirely in the spirit of eve).
They get 84 points and most likely play a sub-optimal team next weekend.
Agony get 125 points and play a top flight group.
I highly doubt the ransom was paid by Agony and I strongly suspect Hydra planned to do this before the start of the match as part of general tournament tactics.
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Florio
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:39:00 -
[117]
Instead of advertising this as a PvP Tournament, perhaps it should be renamed the Daily Politics show.
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FU00110010
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:39:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Morel Nova Edited by: Morel Nova on 05/06/2010 16:24:16 sweet isk & lulz :
http://i50.tinypic.com/mheg5y.jpg
Jeez you cant do anything right. It's clear that's fake. The first donation hasnt updated the balance and the insurance ISK never got added to the balance either. 2/10 for effort.
Next time, check it over before you post.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Florio Instead of advertising this as a PvP Tournament, perhaps it should be renamed the Daily Politics show.
Heh its always been a bit shonky - SF have had opponents ratting out their team mates and offering to throw fights for us since 2006.
Chatsubo RP Discussion
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Spatiopathe
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Posted - 2010.06.05 16:41:00 -
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Ofc its meta-gaming. But its totally matching with eve spirit, isk rules everything, ransom and deal are usual in game, so why not in tournament ? And its a game, not a sport with "honor", in a game you just need to have fun, and this match make us laugh :D
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