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Hearic
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:43:00 -
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As mentioned in the Patch Notes, agents will now give missions in less loaded systems instead of in high load systems. In theory, that is fine, as it will probably reduce lag.
But there seems to be some problems arising from that decision. I run mission around the Eitu and Inoue systems, both of which are neighbour to low-sec systems. Since the expansion, I am almost exclusively getting missions in said low-sec systems, as they are very lightly loaded.
That fact will force me to move my mission running to another system, which has always been crowded with mission runners. I guess the same will happen to many people. So, instead of lessening the load on some systems, the change has a chance of increasing it, because people will abandon agents close to low-sec.
Has the same issue been affecting more of you?
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:47:00 -
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Question: why not just mission in lowsex? Seriously, I don't understand the fear of lolsec missions that people have. I've never had any problems, usually the only other 1-2 people in system are docked up in a station. --
"Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
Sergi Povitch
Gatehoppers Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:49:00 -
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Wait,,, CCP didn't think thou a issue before launch!!!! What a surprise!
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vlanarus
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:49:00 -
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Yes. I , like many others would go to low sec to get level 5's in high sec systems, now it won't give me one in high sec. Even my level 4 agent wants to send me to low sec. My corp is talking about quiting eve and going back to WOW.This expansion seems to be a failure in that respect. things were going good until now. Mission runners like my corp, are getting fed up quick.....
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus Yes. I , like many others would go to low sec to get level 5's in high sec systems, now it won't give me one in high sec. Even my level 4 agent wants to send me to low sec. My corp is talking about quiting eve and going back to WOW.This expansion seems to be a failure in that respect. things were going good until now. Mission runners like my corp, are getting fed up quick.....
Oh well... -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar The Waiting Room.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus Yes. I , like many others would go to low sec to get level 5's in high sec systems, now it won't give me one in high sec. Even my level 4 agent wants to send me to low sec. My corp is talking about quiting eve and going back to WOW.This expansion seems to be a failure in that respect. things were going good until now. Mission runners like my corp, are getting fed up quick.....
go we dont want you. seriously. go.
also can i have your stuff
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Hearic
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Hearic on 27/05/2010 01:52:58
Originally by: Kyo Haku Question: why not just mission in lowsex? Seriously, I don't understand the fear of lolsec missions that people have. I've never had any problems, usually the only other 1-2 people in system are docked up in a station.
Well, I guess the low-sec systems close to you are calm. The ones I know and take as reference, are extremely violent.
At least, those are where I get most of my kills when I am not mission-running. And, as a part-carebear, part-pirate, I tell you that my pirate side loves when people go run a mission in low-sec.
Seriously now, this is one of the reasons I posted the thread. I may have a skewed view due to the danger of the systems near me. It may not be an issue to most mission runners.
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Rin Vires
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:54:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that vlanarus is a troll. So don't feed it.
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vlanarus
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:56:00 -
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Well, all the feed back in local is not at all positive about this. There are those players who don't want to run missions in low sec. Its not all about Low Sec players. We pay to play this game also.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.27 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus Yes. I , like many others would go to low sec to get level 5's in high sec systems, now it won't give me one in high sec. Even my level 4 agent wants to send me to low sec. My corp is talking about quiting eve and going back to WOW.This expansion seems to be a failure in that respect. things were going good until now. Mission runners like my corp, are getting fed up quick.....
You need to be aware of something:
Eve is in constant evolution.
The PVP players in the game, must adapt entire new tactic sets at least once a year, as new mechanics come in, and old mechanics change.
The life of the mission runner has been fairly stable for a REALLY long time, in fact, one could say you've been living in the Heaven, to the Miners Hell. Other than ninja salvagers, and suicide gankers, your woes are a fair few and far between.
Suck it up man, you'll be ok, just relocate, and move on (you could also sack up, you sound like theres 2 or 3 of you, so why not just mission in low sec ffs).
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Kiviar
Caldari Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus Well, all the feed back in local is not at all positive about this. There are those players who don't want to run missions in low sec. Its not all about Low Sec players. We pay to play this game also.
You can still play, You just have to go through that big scary gate to lowsec. Where, *gasp* not... all.. that many people are trying to kill you actually. ---
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vlanarus
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:01:00 -
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I find it amazing how rude people are in this game.
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hearic Edited by: Hearic on 27/05/2010 01:52:58
Originally by: Kyo Haku Question: why not just mission in lowsex? Seriously, I don't understand the fear of lolsec missions that people have. I've never had any problems, usually the only other 1-2 people in system are docked up in a station.
Well, I guess the low-sec systems close to you are calm. The ones I know and take as reference, are extremely violent.
At least, those are where I get most of my kills when I am not mission-running. And, as a part-carebear, part-pirate, I tell you that my pirate side loves when people go run a mission in low-sec.
Seriously now, this is one of the reasons I posted the thread. I may have a skewed view due to the danger of the systems near me. It may not be an issue to most mission runners.
I live exclusively in lowsec, except for going to the 0.5 trade hub in the region, and most of the area is quiet. There are a few systems where you can go if you want combat, but it is generally calm. --
"Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |
arbiter reformed
Minmatar The Waiting Room.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus Well, all the feed back in local is not at all positive about this. There are those players who don't want to run missions in low sec. Its not all about Low Sec players. We pay to play this game also.
sure but you can do things about it that are quite simple. like move hub maybee?
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:05:00 -
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simply join those low sec guys in piracy or part piracy. FInd out if they allow any carebear corps who may rent and get in that way. Wont be attacked sure u might hae to pay 10-20% of youre income but the rewards are better for low sec missions and hey a cheap bc is great for low sec pew pwe Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hearic As mentioned in the Patch Notes, agents will now give missions in less loaded systems instead of in high load systems. In theory, that is fine, as it will probably reduce lag.
But there seems to be some problems arising from that decision. I run mission around the Eitu and Inoue systems, both of which are neighbour to low-sec systems. Since the expansion, I am almost exclusively getting missions in said low-sec systems, as they are very lightly loaded.
That fact will force me to move my mission running to another system, which has always been crowded with mission runners. I guess the same will happen to many people. So, instead of lessening the load on some systems, the change has a chance of increasing it, because people will abandon agents close to low-sec.
Has the same issue been affecting more of you?
One could always hope. In fact, why not move all agents to systems directly adjacent to lowsec systems so that mission runners will have the opportunity to venture into lowsec more often. \o/ -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
ihcn
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:10:00 -
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I agree with the guy that said to sack up or relocate. Missions are easily the best risk:reward profession that the average player can engage in. How dare they take away your risk-free 20m/hour?
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Jerid Verges
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kiviar
Originally by: vlanarus Well, all the feed back in local is not at all positive about this. There are those players who don't want to run missions in low sec. Its not all about Low Sec players. We pay to play this game also.
You can still play, You just have to go through that big scary gate to lowsec. Where, *gasp* not... all.. that many people are trying to kill you actually.
The fact is that if you even encounter ONE person you are likely to die, as everyone knows PvE ships suck against PvP ships.
And with the simplification of scanning and the amount of time required to complete those missions it's incredibly easy to be caught.
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar The Waiting Room.
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jerid Verges
Originally by: Kiviar
Originally by: vlanarus Well, all the feed back in local is not at all positive about this. There are those players who don't want to run missions in low sec. Its not all about Low Sec players. We pay to play this game also.
You can still play, You just have to go through that big scary gate to lowsec. Where, *gasp* not... all.. that many people are trying to kill you actually.
The fact is that if you even encounter ONE person you are likely to die, as everyone knows PvE ships suck against PvP ships.
And with the simplification of scanning and the amount of time required to complete those missions it's incredibly easy to be caught.
yould be suprised how incompetant pirates are in eve, generally if its not a gatecamp its nothing. hitting the scanner every once in a while cant be too difficult, and just stay from the warpin point around 40k should do it
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Hearic
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:20:00 -
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I think some people here may have been missing the point.
The point is: people MAY abandon some agents close to low-sec and move to areas that were more crowded before the expansion. If that happens, the change will actually increase the load on already loaded systems.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:24:00 -
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heres a thought, go into low sec ask the agents there and get missions into empire Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Wrong paradox
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Wrong paradox on 27/05/2010 02:25:01 WWWWOOOOOOOO another expansion like domination!! hell yeah!
+fail mission running +fail 0.0 legg
but hey we get to pay 3 times more for pos fuel
and we have nice new planets
anything elce i missed?
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Hearic
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Hearic on 27/05/2010 02:32:34
Originally by: Wrong paradox
anything elce i missed?
Spelling class?
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Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
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Posted - 2010.05.27 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Clair Bear on 27/05/2010 02:35:31
Originally by: HeliosGal heres a thought, go into low sec ask the agents there and get missions into empire
Won't work, it'll assign you a mission in lowsec (which is less crowded for a reason). Mission grinding is an ISK gathering activity and mixing PvP into it is a huge lose. It makes no sense to take on risk of doing it in lowsec -- either you run missions *much* slower because you're in a t1 fitted unrigged POS, or you're risking hundreds of hours of mission income if you fly your usual mission grinding hardware. The only intelligent response is to move to Motsu, overloading that lag triangle even more.
This may also mean 0.0 agents won't send you out of system as often (if ever). This may be a stealth boost to mission running, actually.
There is NO reason to run missions in lowsec. If you're into the whole playing meat on a hook thing that's more rewarding in 0.0. And safer, if your alliance has lots of blues in the area.
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Slyferz
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hearic I think some people here may have been missing the point.
The point is: people MAY abandon some agents close to low-sec and move to areas that were more crowded before the expansion. If that happens, the change will actually increase the load on already loaded systems.
Bingo. Once again a half-assed approach to fix something that was not broken in the first place.
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Larn Conner
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: vlanarus I find it amazing how rude people are in this game.
Rude posters are in every forum. They feel safe spewing their nastiness from behind the safety of their monitor and keyboard.
They say carebears whine, but all I hear is griefers whining they want people to move to low sec and CCP seems to make everything a mechanic for pushing people into low sec for the griefers to be happy.
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Hung Wang
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
One could always hope. In fact, why not move all agents to systems directly adjacent to lowsec systems so that mission runners will have the opportunity to venture into lowsec more often. \o/
My agent happens to have low-sec next system over, but its in another constellation so I never get sent there.
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jesslyn Daggererux on 27/05/2010 03:43:05
Originally by: Hearic
Originally by: Wrong paradox
anything elce i missed?
Spelling class?
i love you right now edit: nice new corp. too bad you guys didnt evade taxes.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente.
This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.05.27 04:24:00 -
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FWesque missions against non-empire factions would make me go into lowsec. Why do I have to destroy my faction standings if I want to enjoy low-sec space? And no, doing anything higher than a level 2 in a fast frigate is not viable.
But for the record, I only changed my sig because I was annoying myself with the last one.
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Playin' Fog
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Posted - 2010.05.27 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal heres a thought, go into low sec ask the agents there and get missions into empire
Its also affected. Missions will be in lowsec anyway because there is less load. This change is pretty much suck for lvl5 mission runners.
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