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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.05.26 19:25:00 -
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From the patch notes: "The load balancing mechanism for missions in Dominion incorrectly prioritized high-load systems over low-load systems when selecting the location for mission objectives. Agents now prefer to send players to less loaded systems."
Uh-oh... Did mission travel times just get dramatically increased?
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inmarsat
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.05.26 19:34:00 -
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Well yes, but only in the sense that you may now have to make a jump away from Dodixie |
Goose99
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: inmarsat Well yes, but only in the sense that you may now have to make a jump away from Dodixie
Also in the sense that you're going into empty lowsec. Have fun. |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
Originally by: inmarsat Well yes, but only in the sense that you may now have to make a jump away from Dodixie
Also in the sense that you're going into empty lowsec. Have fun.
I wonder about that. A lot of 0.5ish mission hubs have lowsec in a neighbouring system but in a different constellation. I wonder if this 'system load mechanic' overrules constellation borders or if there is a general lowsec check. If not I foresee a lot of angry forum threads and an exodus from some mission hubs. Help us to make parrots game related today! |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:29:00 -
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I hate out of system missions in low sec. :-/
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Noran Ferah
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Noran Ferah on 27/05/2010 03:11:39
Out of 10 missions I just pulled, 9 were in lowsec.
Typically, this would be reversed.
High sec l5 mission stealth nerf has occurred.
Also, my average 100M per 10Km3 of loot has completely evaporated. Where there used to be 12 425 1's, I now have 15 scrapmetals.
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.27 03:35:00 -
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It seems the long-sought nerf to mission income has come to pass.
Too bad it also came with an even more severe nerf to mining income...
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Raz Fenri
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Posted - 2010.05.27 04:09:00 -
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What ever happened to Tier 0 being replaced by tags? Instead we get useless Scraps. Nice |
Gerald Timothy
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Posted - 2010.05.27 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored It seems the long-sought nerf to mission income has come to pass.
a.) Force mission runners into Low sec where they become prey to Player corp. kill mail *****s b.) Mission runners lose their PVE ships to pvp c.) Mission Runners run out of isk and are finally forced to quit running missions and buy Qty 10 PLEX to sell in Jita d.) CCP Profit! \o/
Yeah well the people multi boxing level 4 missions complained about Eve making isk earning too easy.
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Omir Kajil
Gallente The POD Collective
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Raz Fenri What ever happened to Tier 0 being replaced by tags? Instead we get useless Scraps. Nice
clearly the metal scraps are tags intended for rogue drone missions. But I digress. This one time at fat camp, i was flying a dominix, and then I was so hungry that i ate 3 planets and collapsed into a black hole, which ate my sig. |
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scoutsacoutanus
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Posted - 2010.05.27 08:42:00 -
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why don't they just stop ***** footing around and remove all forms of isk making
make an online store where you need pay real money for ships to use for pve/pvp
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Jamie Banks
Gallente Wasted and Still Mining
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Posted - 2010.05.27 09:25:00 -
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Ceylous Nirod
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:57:00 -
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this hurts ratting even more than just mission running... i have yet to get 1 350mm railgun one from at least 9bs kills.
thought nerf would only effect mission runners...
appaently not even ninja-ratting is profitable anymore.. i'll have to find some other line of work besides doing what i like best which is...
sneaking into enemy territory... killing their rats and getting at least some decent loot.... now my income from loot has been cut nearly 70% :(
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Pegasus IX
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Posted - 2010.05.27 16:38:00 -
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Stealth mission nerf FTL!
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.05.27 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Noran Ferah Edited by: Noran Ferah on 27/05/2010 03:11:39
Out of 10 missions I just pulled, 9 were in lowsec.
Typically, this would be reversed.
High sec l5 mission stealth nerf has occurred.
Also, my average 100M per 10Km3 of loot has completely evaporated. Where there used to be 12 425 1's, I now have 15 scrapmetals.
Had you focused on large wrecks only you'd have 100m isk per 3900m3. I know. I'm a ninja looter salvager with GSC parked in space. Weekly I'd gather my GSC's and sell the contents.
But too late now. We're all screwed. And the more I read about what has happened the more I don't like it.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.05.27 22:07:00 -
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You forget, CCP hates people who don't pvp for some obscure reason.
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.27 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mr LaForge You forget, CCP hates people who don't pvp for some obscure reason.
Eve is a pvp game always intended to be a pvp game. Welcome to eve....you must be new. Buy stuff on the market. pvp Ninja salvage. pvp Gate Camp. pvp 0.0 war. pvp Log in. pvp You. ghey
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.05.27 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ildryn
Originally by: Mr LaForge You forget, CCP hates people who don't pvp for some obscure reason.
Eve is a pvp game always intended to be a pvp game. Welcome to eve....you must be new. Buy stuff on the market. pvp Ninja salvage. pvp Gate Camp. pvp 0.0 war. pvp Log in. pvp You. ghey
Fail troll. Where would the materials and isk come from if everyone pvp all the time? Tip of the pyramid needs a broad base to support it.
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Astald Ohtar
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Posted - 2010.05.27 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99 Edited by: Goose99 on 27/05/2010 22:57:15
Originally by: Ildryn
Originally by: Mr LaForge You forget, CCP hates people who don't pvp for some obscure reason.
Eve is a pvp game always intended to be a pvp game. Welcome to eve....you must be new. Buy stuff on the market. pvp Ninja salvage. pvp Gate Camp. pvp 0.0 war. pvp Log in. pvp You. ghey
its hardcore plex sellers!
Fail troll. Where would the materials and isk come from if everyone pvp all the time? Tip of the pyramid needs a broad base to support it.
Pvp = consumption. More base production leads to more consumption = more pvp. Economics 101.
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.28 11:51:00 -
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You sir are fail *******.
I make more than most if not all mission runners in high sec by staying in 0.0 running anoms. Where would i spend my 100m-2bill a day you ask....there will always be a market. And that market is tough. Ran by players to get money from other players. PVP
Goose99 you have only been playing 2 months or so...who the **** cares what you have to say. If anything you are the troll.
In 2 months time you have not gained the needed skills or experience to know what the **** you are talking about. HTFU!
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Alarci
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Posted - 2010.05.28 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Alarci on 28/05/2010 12:19:52
Originally by: Ildryn You sir are fail *******.
I make more than most if not all mission runners in high sec by staying in 0.0 running anoms. Where would i spend my 100m-2bill a day you ask....there will always be a market. And that market is tough. Ran by players to get money from other players. PVP
Goose99 you have only been playing 2 months or so...who the **** cares what you have to say. If anything you are the troll.
In 2 months time you have not gained the needed skills or experience to know what the **** you are talking about. HTFU!
all this and if you with the right corp/alliance for for your logistics i found 0.0 space actually safer than high sec , you just need to know how 0.0 space work
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.28 12:32:00 -
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Quote:
Pvp = consumption. More base production leads to more consumption = more pvp. Economics 101.
TBH when I was in 0.0 we did not need to go hi sec to pay for PvP ships.
We had corp insurance for ships used in corp ops (including carriers and dreads) and we had corp PLEX / mission ops as well.
I suppose now with the Dominion ability to spawn more PvE directly in the home systems this became even better.
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2010.05.28 16:37:00 -
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First time for everything. For the first time while playing this game I consider myself nerfed. \0/ Thx CCP, seriously, thx.
2 of my accounts I keep active with PLEXi bought with missioned ISK. Looking for better ways to make the money right now. I heard this new planet thing is a big money maker
tldr: Adapt of die
or rather
Adapt or give me your stuff
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omegafire
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Posted - 2010.05.28 19:00:00 -
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The game always makes me laugh. People complain, others flame and tell them to go play WOW or some other carebare game.
Lots of people like to pvp while others like to pve / mission / mine ect. I think that all the die hard PVPers seem to forget that if all the accounts that PVE disappear so will the game eventually. I like to mission / pvp and various other things dpending on how I feel. I wont be missioning anymore as not taking PVE ships into low sec for all the 'tough' gate camps to destroy. I wont mine. Ninja salvaging is almost impossible as finding mission ships is difficult. Will probably PVP until isk runs out then who knows, most likely cancel account.
I would imagine lots will disappear due to the changes. Overall this is a bad thing. I have played games that slowly die and I honestly think this is the first nail in the coffin. Now flame away but dont forget when you log in and there are a couple hunderd people in game where it started.
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Dzajic
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.05.28 19:56:00 -
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Blah. This wasn't supposed to be a nerf, but a lag fix. I'm running missions in a certain non Dodixie system, and local in system and neighbors was always from 50 to 100 and never really seen lag like I saw ages ago when as noob^2 tried running missions in Ours or Dodixie.
I kept planning of switching to one of those mythic "0.5 with Q> +15 agent and no low sec next jump" systems, but now I have to redo my search as its about "no low sec in less then 2 or 3 jumps" to be safe.
And the absolute lolwtf hearing good people still stubborn enough to do missions in low sec (which is like empty) are still sent a couple of jumps around for each mission.
Salvaging and looting sucks now, and the time jumping and warping 2 or 3 jumps for the mission, and the salvage boat and then maybe with the industrial to pick it all up is pushing it into "not worth it" area.
People will try to avoid getting missions in low sec by going to very high sec hubs, increasing lag. If the system is dynamic enough we might see agents sending people 4 or 5 jumps from nowly overcrowded 0.8 or 0.9 hub. |
Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.05.28 19:59:00 -
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drop the mission income... OK force 0.5 agent missionrunner to go into lowsec... NOT OK
i guess ccp want 4 missionhub systems with 500 players in each. to the guy who said his anomalys are more better. who is buying you plex stuff? missionrunners. |
Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2010.05.28 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dzajic Blah. This wasn't supposed to be a nerf, but a lag fix.
You have no idea if that is true. For all we know it was always intended to be a nerf, but labelled as a lag fix so that all the whining would come after Tyrannis, when it's too late to do anything about it. |
Cyan Cure
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Cyan Cure on 28/05/2010 21:26:27 Not a mission runner myself, but this does look to me like a big "**** you" to low security space.
EDIT: Mission running is a mean of making money, it should be fast and painless, but this is an MMO. All the PvP elitists can go where their head belongs, in their ass. I can count people doing PvP with real skill involved on my one hand.
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vitamin B12 drop the mission income... OK force 0.5 agent missionrunner to go into lowsec... OK
i guess ccp want 4 missionhub systems with 500 players in each. to the guy who said his anomalys are more better. who is buying your plex stuff? Everyone.
Fixed
More better? No i am not an idiot.
I just said better. So remove the plex stuff and ill still make more. Sanctum/Haven > Level 4 extravaganza. And the occasional Faction bs at the end 3m-12m. And all the bs spawns are worth over a million. Your extravaganza and worlds collide are full of 495k and 500k bs. And i dont have to accept any missions. Just have to press a button in my scanner that comes equipped with my ship. I can run them non-stop all day long and they are always there. So as i said in my first statement. I make more than most if not all mission runners. And the funny thing is...everyone can do this who wants to. Step out of high sec and get a taste of the real EVE.
HTFU!
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.28 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Skex Relbore on 28/05/2010 21:59:49
Originally by: Ildryn
Originally by: Vitamin B12 drop the mission income... OK force 0.5 agent missionrunner to go into lowsec... OK
i guess ccp want 4 missionhub systems with 500 players in each. to the guy who said his anomalys are more better. who is buying your plex stuff? Everyone.
Fixed
More better? No i am not an idiot.
I just said better. So remove the plex stuff and ill still make more. Sanctum/Haven > Level 4 extravaganza. And the occasional Faction bs at the end 3m-12m. And all the bs spawns are worth over a million. Your extravaganza and worlds collide are full of 495k and 500k bs. And i dont have to accept any missions. Just have to press a button in my scanner that comes equipped with my ship. I can run them non-stop all day long and they are always there. So as i said in my first statement. I make more than most if not all mission runners. And the funny thing is...everyone can do this who wants to. Step out of high sec and get a taste of the real EVE.
HTFU!
You are still a fool.
My mission hub is one of these .5 systems with a single .4 neighbor. Now I've not run missions in a month as I'm having too much fun in RVB. But I'd picked the system I did innitially because I wanted to be close to Tourier so I could go back easily.
Now when my money runs out (assuming I don't figure out how to make the market thing work for me) I'm going to have to find a new mission system because turning down 90% of the offered missions just isn't ever going to work.
Yes some people will find other forms of income. But everyone is not ever going to move to nulsec. Just accept that reality.
And whether or not the hisec players you despise affect your ability to generate isk they most certainly affect CCP's ability to generate dollars.
Take away what these people enjoy be it just running missions to relax or running them for income to buy ships to blow up and eventually they will just GTFA. At which point Eve ceases to be viable financially and the servers disappear.
Who the hell do you think pays all the money that's used to pay the programers and buy the hardware to try and keep your blobfests from lagging out?
Hint there aren't enough of you in low sec to do it.
Now who's fail here?
HTFU indeed. I did Marine Boot camp I know hard and I laugh at the wimpy little boys pretending they are tough because they play a video game. It's a video game you play it sitting in a f-ing chair there isn't anything "hard" about it.
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