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Phlyk
The VonBraun Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.20 10:52:00 -
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This is certainly an interesting idea, and if it works,t hen we would have a powerful tool at our disposal. I would be willing to help study the effects and willing to contribute an Onyx class Heavy Interdictor to the teams efforts should we wish to pursue this line of inquiry.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 14:31:00 -
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We are switching comms channels to "Operation Bad Moon", volunteers are to report there.
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Seamus Donohue
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.20 17:58:00 -
[63]
I've been asked to publish my logs of Local channel during the First Sansha Battle of Outuni: http://pastebay.com/99560
(At the time of this post, there has been only one Sansha battle at Outuni, though a few other solar systems have been hit twice or thrice.)
It should be noted that Koja Tsutariba was actually an officer of the Caldari Navy. It's not clear to me if she actually perished at Outuni, though she did not transmit at any point after Sansha claims in Local channel of her death. __________________________________________________ Survivor of Teskanen, fan of John Rourke. |
Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:18:00 -
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here follows a compacted log of the events at the latest test:
mgc1 > ecm crew standing by Aynen > FGR is arriving in system to conduct wormhole jamming tests, stand by Wedgetail > Heavy interdictor standing by mgc1 > aynen ecm crew standing by, what r your orders Aynen > ECM team, deploy at wormhole beta at 100 KM from planet mgc1 > acknowledged mgc1 > ecm move out Aynen > begin jam upon arrival Seamus Donohue > Captain Tsutariba, this is Captain Donohue on Caldari Emergency Channel Oscar Mike Foxtrot Golf, an ECM/ECCM testing fleet for use against the Sansha is rallying now, copy pplease. Darkcoro > ECM Moving Out Aynen > ECCM team, deploy at wormhole alpha, deploy knock-test upon arrival Aynen > keep an eye out for known slaves on the field mgc1 > eccm crew pls acknowledge Aynen > Nation communication being quiet Slave Odatrik13 > Evolving tactics. Aynen > Tactics being evolved, bring in the dampener teams Aynen > third wormhole detected, ecm intercept it mgc1 > weomhole targeted Seamus Donohue > /emote 'Blackbird'(Blackbird)[DNHUE] has started firing graviton bursts at "Violent Wormhole". mgc1 > commensing ecm procedure Wedgetail > atempting Heavy point test on third wormhole Aynen > status check on heavy interdictors requested Darkcoro > Commencing Gravimetric Distortion on Gamma Wormhole Wedgetail > HIC closing to range 2 km Wedgetail > HIC test commencing in 3 Wedgetail > 2 Wedgetail > 1 Seamus Donohue > VIVA CONCORDIA! Let's see how your wormholes deal with graviton bursts, suckers! Wedgetail > Scram Active Anthony Leo > ECCM Active Aynen > Make sure ecm is varied in strenght to ensure random graviton count Slave Odatrik13 > Wormhole restabilization frequency enabled. Field holding. Wedgetail > deactivating scram Anthony Leo > use ECCM Aynen > They've adapted, report on dampener modules Math'ra Hiede > ECM Pilots, provide more ECM on those wormholes. Wedgetail > reactivating in 5 Wedgetail > 4 Aynen > are they active and being used? Wedgetail > 3 Wedgetail > 2 Seamus Donohue > Varying graviton strength. Wedgetail > 1 mgc1 > primaried, lost ship Karoun > lost ship Wedgetail > heavy point is now Active Aynen > scanner, bring on the probes Wedgetail > HIC taking fire Seamus Donohue > Adding missile bombardment to graviton bursts against wormhole. Darkcoro > Varying Graviton Strength Aynen > warp out if needed to come back in Aynen > Nation communications minimal mgc1 > reporting casualties Wedgetail > HIC under heavy fire atempting to withdraw Slave Odatrik13 > Dropship wave returning. 90,000 individuals freed from the tyranny of independence. Wedgetail > HIC is scrammed cannot withdraw request assistance Aynen > any remote armor repairers available for Wedge? mgc1 > unscram him Vincent Leow > sending logistic drones Aynen > Wormholes managing to keep stable Seamus Donohue > Reinitializing graviton bursts, concentrated bursts, NOW! Aynen > switch ecm to frigate class Slaves Aynen > all ecm towards frigate class enemies Wedgetail > HIC armor failing Wedgetail > HIC off the field forcibly removed Slave Odatrik13 > Enough of this. Nation dropships must be permitted to enter the portal. mgc1 > hang in there caps mgc1 > ecm the portlas again! Aynen > Portal entrance sucessfully denied Slave Odatrik13 > Launching fighters. Nikita Alterana > beginning graviton bombardment via warp disrupter Aynen > additoinal fighers being launched, they want our ecm distracted Slave Odatrik13 > Witness True Power. Aynen > no dictors left on the field? Seamus Donohue > ECMing frigates, as ordered. Vincent Leow > i have the modules from the hic Anthony Leo > ECM active on slave Aynen > Calling out to all present heavy interdictors, keep all gates jammed. ECCM ineffective so far. Abandon ECCM test Aynen > all wormholes are to be closed mgc1 > keep comms clear for ecm testers Aynen > No further comms regarding dropships, ecm remains effective Continued next post
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:24:00 -
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Aynen > No further comms regarding dropships, ecm remains effective Darkcoro > Activating Gravimetric Distortion on primary Wormhole Slave Ariliia > Death imminent. Darkcoro > Varying Strength Seamus Donohue > /emote 'Blackbird'(Blackbird)[DNHUE] has started firing graviton bursts at "Violent Wormhole". Aynen > we're doing well people, they can't seem to get their dropships through Darkcoro > Varying Strength Aynen > leave the combat to the other capsuleers, concentrate on the ecm Aynen > keep an eye out for beacons Seamus Donohue > Varying graviton strength on wormhole. Aynen > they may try to stabilize Seamus Donohue > New graviton burst on wormhole. Nikita Alterana > graviton bursts on wormhole via warp disrupter being applied Anthony Leo > engagin graviton burst on wh Aynen > If needed, self destruct authorised near wormhole only mgc1 > try eccm on wh once slave dies Seamus Donohue > Adding EM missile bombardment to graviton bursts on wormhole. Vincent Leow > dampening carrier Aynen > no beacon detected so far Eclorc > ecm is still engaged on hole, proving effective Nikita Alterana > cyling disrupter randomly to prevent applied stabilization from the far side Slave Odatrik13 > Wormhole closing in five minutes. mgc1 > test eccm on wh once slave dies Seamus Donohue > Reinitializing graviton ECM, preparing new surge on wormhole.... NOW! Aynen > timer on wormhole suggest rigid timing on wormhole stability Nikita Alterana > /emote engages primary hacking arrays on Slave Odatrik13 Aynen > if the knock test can be made effective, they might not be able to close Nikita Alterana > Accessing firewall data buffers Slave Odatrik13 > Firewalls holding against electronic attack. mgc1 > aynen suggest eccm test to stabilize after slave dies Aynen > re-attempt ECCM on wormhole alpha mgc1 > ty Anthony Leo > attempting hack Darkcoro > Activating Full Strength Graviton Distortion, NOW! Anthony Leo > running all computers Nikita Alterana > placing primary and secondary firewall breaching charges Weynard > That did not work on me yesterday, how dare you to try it yet again, against a true slave? Nikita Alterana > executing logic bomb slita itana > ECM that WH! Slave Odatrik13 > Wormhole signal buffer activated. Three minutes until destabilization. Aynen > dampers, go for the buffer mgc1 > jam that beacon Nikita Alterana > overloading primary firewall, moving on to secondary Vincent Leow > damping carrier Anthony Leo > all ecm diverted to wh Aynen > Dampen that ship Vincent Leow > aye sir Anthony Leo > beacon jamming in process Slave Odatrik13 > Two minutes until wormhole collapse. Lord Iman > Trying to hack the chimrea with codebraking module Aynen > dampeners report on status Slave Odatrik13 > Dropships withdrawn, 120,000 souls liberated for Nation. Nikita Alterana > secondary firewall breaching charges placed Aynen > dropships made it through, they've addapted Darkcoro > full strength Grav Distorion on Wormhole Seamus Donohue > Reinitializing graviton surges on wormhole, now! Nikita Alterana > executing logic bombs Samantha Vosh > Engaging Wormhole with Bane torpedoes Anthony Leo > increasing power to graviton field Somoon > * Launching a warp disrupt probe into the WH Anthony Leo > overloading modules Eclorc > gravton emitters at full power Darkcoro > Attempting Hack of Slave Odiatrik13 Slave Odatrik13 > Sixty seconds... Da Chucky > That Bumping is working! Keep it away from the WH! Nikita Alterana > secondary firewall down, attempting to access mainfreame Nikita Alterana > rerouting logical circuits Darkcoro > Overloading ECM Nikita Alterana > scrambling outbound communications Anthony Leo > rerouting all ship power to ECM mgc1 > aynen, eccm hole while bumping slave? Aynen > Nation seems able to re-stabilize Aynen > roger that mgc1 Eclorc > ecm is on hole, overloading ,roger Slave Odatrik13 > Wormhole navigational signal not found. Trying again.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:29:00 -
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Aynen > positive result measured Anthony Leo > Engaging secondary ECM Seamus Donohue > Varying graviton strength. Slave Odatrik13 > Wormhole closed. Engaging self-destruct protocols. Vincent Leow > wormhole down Slave Odatrik13 > For Nation. Aynen > status report on losses slita itana > ECM test proved results slita itana > good job guys!!! Vincent Leow > did the dampners work? Anthony Leo > yes slita itana > Vamps seem to slita itana > i was getting energy off it Nikita Alterana > really? thats interesting
The battle ended there, as did the operation. Noticable is that during the tests, an independent party tried a hack into the implants, which means that it is hard to determine wether the achieved results are due to the tests,or due to the hack. More analysis is to follow but for now our it seems unwise to draw conclusions yet.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:42:00 -
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This is just in, on a new test an outstanding success was achieved. Logs are to follow soon.
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Victoria Buildalot
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Victoria Buildalot on 20/05/2010 18:45:46 Logs from the recent attack in Romi has been extracted from my Local Comms log.
The attack resulted in a complete success. Both Wormholes were destabilized and no captives were taken what so ever.
Local Comms log: http://pastebin.com/jjNQZsp7
Operation Bad Moon is a complete go!
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Isabella Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Victoria Buildalot Edited by: Victoria Buildalot on 20/05/2010 18:45:46 Logs from the recent attack in Romi has been extracted from my Local Comms log.
The attack resulted in a complete success. Both Wormholes were destabilized and no captives were taken what so ever.
Local Comms log: http://pastebin.com/jjNQZsp7
Operation Bad Moon is a complete go!
Incorrect. 65,000 were liberated.
[ 2010.05.20 18:15:33 ] Slave Ation09 > Dropship wave returning. 65,000 free thinkers liberated and added to the ranks of Nation.
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Seamus Donohue
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.20 18:53:00 -
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For corroboration, my version of the Local channel logs of the First Sansha Battle of Romi: http://pastebay.com/99574 __________________________________________________ Survivor of Teskanen, fan of John Rourke. |
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research
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Posted - 2010.05.20 19:00:00 -
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Aynen, could you summarize your findings? I want to make sure we're drawing the same conclusions.
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Victoria Buildalot
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Posted - 2010.05.20 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Isabella Khan
Originally by: Victoria Buildalot Edited by: Victoria Buildalot on 20/05/2010 18:45:46 Logs from the recent attack in Romi has been extracted from my Local Comms log.
The attack resulted in a complete success. Both Wormholes were destabilized and no captives were taken what so ever.
Local Comms log: http://pastebin.com/jjNQZsp7
Operation Bad Moon is a complete go!
Incorrect. 65,000 were liberated.
[ 2010.05.20 18:15:33 ] Slave Ation09 > Dropship wave returning. 65,000 free thinkers liberated and added to the ranks of Nation.
My apologies, I was excited, drew quick conclusions and just wanted to share the good news. I was not on site at the time of that announcement so I did not see this myself. It was later confirmed by other sources.
But it is very clear the ECM attacks are having a large effect. Graviton ECM modules should be fit by most pilots engaging in these anti-Nation attacks.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Casiella Truza Aynen, could you summarize your findings? I want to make sure we're drawing the same conclusions.
I agree with innitial findings, the statement was made that the wormhole was de-stabilizing just before it actually closed. This is exactly what the gravitons are ment to do.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research
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Posted - 2010.05.20 19:15:00 -
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So spatial destabilizers and other gravimetric ECM will close the wormholes used by the Sansha raiders? Is that your conclusion?
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Casiella Truza So spatial destabilizers and other gravimetric ECM will close the wormholes used by the Sansha raiders? Is that your conclusion?
Yes, inserting random ammounts of gravitons into the wormhole destabilizes them. Spatial destibilizers send out these gravitons. The graviton levels must be random because otherwise Nation can compensate for it.
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Phlyk
The VonBraun Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.20 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aynen
slita itana > Vamps seem to slita itana > i was getting energy off it Nikita Alterana > really? thats interesting
Woahh! Now this is an interesting result indeed, maybe it is possible to neut down the wormholes as well!
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.20 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Phlyk Woahh! Now this is an interesting result indeed, maybe it is possible to neut down the wormholes as well!
It may not be possible to completely drain a wormhole, as they posess astronomical quantities of power, but since Nation uses their ability to control the wormhole size and stability to allow their ships, and only their ships, through it might be possible to through the wormhole configuration off by adding and withdrawing power to and from the wormhole at random. Similar to the graviton technique, it could prevent Nation from being able to send ships through because the stability and size will vary too much.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.21 17:36:00 -
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Today was a hard day for Operation Bad Moon. We have, for the first time, encountered heavy resistance from Nation sympathizers using ECCM to counter our ECM methods. Also, after a hacking attempt by one of our operatives, her pod was infected with a virus, which converted her to Nation after the attack was long over. All in all the day was one of setbacks, and sorrowfull goodbyes.
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Phlyk
The VonBraun Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.21 17:44:00 -
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All was not lost however, much information was gleaned from the fight. We are still poring over the logs, but one thing has struck out at me in particular.
[ 2010.05.21 14:59:07 ] Phlyk > Graviton ECM deployed against Wormhole Alpha [ 2010.05.21 14:59:35 ] Slave Heavenbound02 > Unable to sustain signal enhancer on all three portal. Closing alpha.
[ 2010.05.21 15:03:16 ] Phlyk > switching ECM to wromhole Gamma, Graivemtric ECM cycling [ 2010.05.21 15:03:57 ] Aynen > Gamma hole down, ECM redistribute
Whilst the Sansha Sympathisers and the Carrier were able to keep one Wormhole active, the other wormholes were easy enough to shut down using gravimetric interference. We can overpower them.
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Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.05.21 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Freyya on 21/05/2010 22:35:10 I would first like to congratulate you in your efforts towards getting a weapon against the Sansha incursion. However, due to the recent developments of Sansha forces deploying ECCM to counter further destabilization of their wormholes, i would like to direct you towards my efforts through another route.
Sansha broadcasts
If you might be able to set up a separate wing for Analyzers and decoder modules we might stand a chance at cracking their communications and perhaps predict where their next target(s) might be, getting there to stop the wormholes from forming before a large fleet and dropships come sailing through. You can contact me through any means though i am planetside at the moment. Might be for a day or two even but i will keep a direct link with my evemail box through datapad linking. Leaving a reply broadcast in the linked broadcast above is also very effective.
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NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
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Illrean
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Posted - 2010.05.22 03:28:00 -
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Anyone tried using scripted HICs on the Nation Wormholes yet?
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Aviator Girl
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Posted - 2010.05.22 04:51:00 -
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interesting info
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.22 07:23:00 -
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We've encountered a serious problem with hacking attempts. A converting virus appears to be able to travel back through the data stream of anyone who tries to hack directly into a slave, turning the hacker, potentially, into a slave themselves. We advise extreme caution for anyone still willing to attempt this. Hics are part of our arsenal, aswell as we have additional tactics being developed, and deployed as we speak. I'm glad there are many independent parties trying their own theories against Nation, and I encourage everyone to keep trying, even in the face of defeat. Nation adapts, we must adapt faster.
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Budsin Adar
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Posted - 2010.05.22 14:16:00 -
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Sounds like that you all had an interesting time in WH Space.never thought of targeting the WH. I just remember a system Jammer 5 kms from the opening b4. So I am wondering what happpens if i shoot it? but since it was a scout ship. It would not have done much but maybe get me killed. Would that be right?
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.22 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Budsin Adar Sounds like that you all had an interesting time in WH Space.never thought of targeting the WH. I just remember a system Jammer 5 kms from the opening b4. So I am wondering what happpens if i shoot it? but since it was a scout ship. It would not have done much but maybe get me killed. Would that be right?
We never managed to enter the wormholes so far. We found a few ways of destabilizing wormholes, but never a way to make it ready for 2-way transit. As for shooting it, we don't know what sufficient firepower will do.
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Shikobo Nonu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.22 14:40:00 -
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Shooting it...
Most weapon types fire ammunition at the target. Whether these could survive the forces inside and surrounding the wormhole, I have no idea.
Lasers, however, fire modulated light. We know gravitons affect wormholes. How would the different types of radiation a laser can fire at it affect one?
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Seethyre
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Posted - 2010.05.22 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aynen Seamus Donohue > Captain Tsutariba, this is Captain Donohue on Caldari Emergency Channel Oscar Mike Foxtrot Golf, an ECM/ECCM testing fleet for use against the Sansha is rallying now, copy pplease.
I know this is not any form of helpful info. But I got a little tickled at the emergency channel name "Oscar Mike Foxtrot Golf." translated from military alphabet to: OMFG
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Marchant LaCroix
Gallente Ma-Ven Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.23 01:55:00 -
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Perhaps since you have had such a success with altering the wormholes stability with Graviton emmissions perhaps it's time to make a beachhead of our own. Keep one hole stabilised to the point that it is usable both ways and thus provide a means to assault the problem at the source, or at least give people enough time to capture some of the technology being used on the other side.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.23 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Marchant LaCroix Perhaps since you have had such a success with altering the wormholes stability with Graviton emmissions perhaps it's time to make a beachhead of our own. Keep one hole stabilised to the point that it is usable both ways and thus provide a means to assault the problem at the source, or at least give people enough time to capture some of the technology being used on the other side.
We have so far been unsuccesfull at making the wormholes ready for 2 way traffic, but we're really stubborn so we keep trying.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2010.05.23 18:21:00 -
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Operation Bad Moon is setting up a second fleet to be able to get to any point in the empires faster than is currently possible. We are seeking more pilots who are able to move around freely in Amarr space. If you wish to represent us against the Nation onslaught please join the Operation Bad Moon comms channel.
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