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trady mctradsytrade
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Posted - 2010.05.12 02:57:00 -
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makes lo sec compleatly safe to travelers. something just feels wrong when an inty cant catch a flashy BS jumping in to it.
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Jerid Verges
Gallente The Society of Innovation The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.05.12 03:44:00 -
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Your pirate tears are delicious.
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2010.05.12 04:13:00 -
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Enjoy the ones who don't know this trick and keep this under your hat. game has to give people a chance to travel. If not...well already get low sec residents complaining no one wants to go there.
Could also come off the gate once in while and I don't know....probe this guy down when on a belt/mission. At some point might get him half asleep or in the middle of slug fest with rats and can't cloak.
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beardevil
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Posted - 2010.05.12 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: trady mctradsytrade makes lo sec compleatly safe to travelers. something just feels wrong when an inty cant catch a flashy BS jumping in to it.
Get better inty pilots?
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Jerid Verges
Gallente The Society of Innovation The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.05.12 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Misanthra Enjoy the ones who don't know this trick and keep this under your hat.
Confirming that pirate tears brought this trick to my attention.
Also:
Working as intended :)
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Abbot Laarkin
Order Of Mystical Mountain Monks
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Posted - 2010.05.12 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: trady mctradsytrade makes lo sec compleatly safe to travelers. something just feels wrong when an inty cant catch a flashy BS jumping in to it.
Not supported.
The "trick" (tactic is possibly more accurate) is not 100% guaranteed to work. mis-clicks and lag happen.
What it does do however is go a long way to making people believe that they can travel safely through low-sec, remove this belief and the number of potential targets will drop considerably.
Accept that you can't catch 'em all, and rejoice that at least people are moving about your area. The alternative would be complete and utter boredom.
Peace.
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Originally by: Sir Carnage
Originally by: Marko Riva Why does that read like they're all 12 and have an IQ of 37?
I was under the impression they were 37 and had an IQ of 12
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.05.12 09:47:00 -
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It is right up there with logoffski and RR/dockski in my book, but while despicable and cowardly it is the way the proverbial cookie crumbles.
Challenge their manhoods in local and go about your day, CCP is backed up until 2050 with bug/mechanic fixes so the best you can hope for is a SoonÖ sticker on it.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2010.05.12 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida It is right up there with logoffski and RR/dockski in my book, but while despicable and cowardly it is the way the proverbial cookie crumbles.
Challenge their manhoods in local and go about your day, CCP is backed up until 2050 with bug/mechanic fixes so the best you can hope for is a SoonÖ sticker on it.
hahaha
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.05.12 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida It is right up there with logoffski and RR/dockski in my book, but while despicable and cowardly it is the way the proverbial cookie crumbles.
Challenge their manhoods in local and go about your day, CCP is backed up until 2050 with bug/mechanic fixes so the best you can hope for is a SoonÖ sticker on it.
so gimping my fitting to bypass the lazy gate campers is an exploiting game mechanics in your eyes?
and keep in mind ... last time CCP tried to change the behavior they almost killed recons and covops. :)
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.05.12 11:24:00 -
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They actually did this for a total of 24 hours a while back. The backlash was amazing. It destroyed recons/cov ops ability to run gate camps, the very thing they are built to do. It also gave the falcon a new trick, if your jam failed, you could cloak and it would cancel the cycle times thus allowing you to uncloak and try again after 5 seconds instead of the usual 20 seconds. Lastly, stop camping the ****ing gate. Seriously, it's the most boring way to catch people. Go sit in the top belt cloaked, get a prober and learn to actually hunt down players. I've done my share of gate camping and trust me, the sooner you get away from it the better. It's about as exciting as mining veldspar tbh.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.05.12 11:50:00 -
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There's nothing problematic with MWD-cloak.
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Solid Star
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Posted - 2010.05.12 16:35:00 -
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The mwd cloak warp trick has always existed, but it was a sub par method comared to throwing on 5 WCS. Now with HIC's and their infinite point the mwd-cloak-warp trick has become the only alternative outside of a covert cloak. I would be down for the removal of this trick if we got rid of the HIC's ability to ignore WCS.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.12 17:37:00 -
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How it works. --
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.05.12 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever so gimping my fitting to bypass the lazy gate campers is an exploiting game mechanics in your eyes?
and keep in mind ... last time CCP tried to change the behavior they almost killed recons and covops. :)
Nah, not exploiting, just the lowest of the low :) Travelfits are one thing, people using them to move haulers and combat ships is another, personally more in favour of using a couple of stabs when moving ships .. but then again I am a puritan when it comes to gameplay. CCP has a habit of allowing anything they cannot fix or have failed fixing and call it "intended" even if it ruins gameplay.
Yes, I remember the CCP cloaking Fubar well, cost me a Pilgrim, most annoying But that was then; we now have scramblers that are able to interrupt MWD cycles .. why the hell doesn't CCP slap that attribute onto cloaks? Trick would still be possible, but the timing would be so damn fine that only the absolute elite could ever hope to pull it off instead of everyone and their mothers as it is now.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:02:00 -
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I actually don't have any issues with this.
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trady mctradsytrade
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Posted - 2010.05.13 03:11:00 -
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Why not just add a instant deactivation of propulsion mods similer to a scrambler? Make covops cloaks more relevant and put the std cloaks back in line with their intended use.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.05.13 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: darius mclever on 13/05/2010 03:25:30
Originally by: trady mctradsytrade Why not just add a instant deactivation of propulsion mods similer to a scrambler? Make covops cloaks more relevant and put the std cloaks back in line with their intended use.
read comment 10 again. try to understand it. then think again about your suggestion. also ... that would solve squat. as you already got the speed up from the mwd start cycle. so in many cases you will be fast enough for warping.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.05.13 05:40:00 -
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Wow. I didn't know about this.
Thanks, OP, for starting this thread. And here I am using wormholes to bypass low sec and gate camps.
Oh, the map statistics are also helpful.
Annnd the RL convoy security tactics also help...
But now I have one more tool on the shelf.
Were it not for people complaining about game mechanics and kvetching about it in the forums, I would not know how to play.
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trady mctradsytrade
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Posted - 2010.05.13 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever Edited by: darius mclever on 13/05/2010 03:25:30
Originally by: trady mctradsytrade Why not just add a instant deactivation of propulsion mods similer to a scrambler? Make covops cloaks more relevant and put the std cloaks back in line with their intended use.
read comment 10 again. try to understand it. then think again about your suggestion. also ... that would solve squat. as you already got the speed up from the mwd start cycle. so in many cases you will be fast enough for warping.
quote 10 refers to covert ops cloaks reseting activation timers of all modules. Im Saying that std prototype/improved etc etc cloaks and only the prpulsion mod, not ewar mods. Believe it o not if a cloak instantly stops u from mwding or afterburning youl have to be uncloaked to get a speed bonus and hence make low sec systems dangerous again and actualy improve the use of covert ops cloaks. so. read post ten try to understand it then think about your post
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:43:00 -
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You should read post 10 again, you missed 3/4th's of what it says. I know cause I wrote it.
The restarting of EW cycles was only a small side effect. It was horrible admittedly but so was the desired change. Low sec gate camping absolutely does not need any boosts. In fact, it needs a good nerf.
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trady mctradsytrade
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:01:00 -
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I call carebear!youve got sentry guns to allow u to travel safely in small stuff. U could probly get some concord to tail u round it ask nicely enough. one less way for people to travel safe can only be a good thing. wana avoid gettin caught, stay outa lo sec.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:06:00 -
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Drop mobile bubbles, problem solv... oh wait you can't... because you're lowsec "pirates"
unlucky
giving people a chance to escape is the point isn't it Even with bubbles there are ways of surviving --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/05/2010 15:08:17 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/05/2010 15:07:14
Originally by: King Rothgar Low sec gate camping absolutely does not need any boosts.
I'm agreeing with this. You can't catch them all and people have a good chance of survival if they travelfit, I don't see a big issue with this. A gate isn't a automatic killmail delivery system which is fine.
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Were it not for people complaining about game mechanics and kvetching about it in the forums, I would not know how to play.
The trick has been out in the open for at least two years, so much that even gatecampers remember to whine about it only once in a blue moon.
Also, learn to metaforum*****. You start a thread in C&P asking what changes they would like to make pirating more viable and you get all the stuff which they cannot cope with in one thread.
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kushkan
Amarr Imperial House Ordos Forbidden Domain
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Posted - 2010.05.13 20:45:00 -
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indeed low sec camping needs some more nerf since the hics came out.
warpcore stabs seem te become a bit pointless as most decent pirate gate camps have hic,s
the cloak mwd is around the only ting you have and thats still a lousy precentage of escaping you incoming doom.
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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.05.13 21:07:00 -
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MWD+cloak is balanced for 0.0
Nerfing it would have negative consequences for 0.0 And 0.0 is definitely more important than low sec. Basically, if anyone wants ability to completely dead stop everyone and anything, they can do so in their nearest 0.0 system. Setup multiple bubbles, scrams and web interceptors that won't need to fear gate guns.
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Abaddon Zen
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Posted - 2010.05.13 21:15:00 -
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Why is it that pirates feel thay are entitiled to easy targets? I am enjoying these tears.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound How it works.
Just a link to a black screen vid. How lame.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Whitehound How it works.
Just a link to a black screen vid. How lame.
Try to update your software?! --
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Dissenting Wolf
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:56:00 -
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Major lols. Carebears whine about Hulkageddon, pirates whine about...well everything that doesn't give them a KM. Do what everyone else does and find a workaround.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Whitehound How it works.
Just a link to a black screen vid. How lame.
Try to update your software?!
Nah, seems this vid was just temporarily requested too much, I guess. It works now. My bad.
It's actually a brilliant vid. :)
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