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Jeneroux
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.20 22:27:00 -
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What do you call 10 people hiding behind the door waiting for someone to walk through?
Oh.. yes.. this is pvp.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.20 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Simple solution. Undocking leaves you 15km from the station. Their's only 2 reason to leave a station: 1. Your traveling to a new destination so you won't need to redock right away. 2. Your playing docking games and deserve to be vunerable to campers.
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In other words.
You want an easy button to kill people trying to leave the station.
Try again noob.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Armoured C
Gallente Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.04.20 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 20/04/2010 22:37:18
Originally by: Jeneroux What do you call 10 people hiding behind the door waiting for someone to walk through?
pedobear
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.20 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 21/04/2010 00:00:23
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Trader20 Simple solution. Undocking leaves you 15km from the station. Their's only 2 reason to leave a station: 1. Your traveling to a new destination so you won't need to redock right away. 2. Your playing docking games and deserve to be vunerable to campers.
discuss
In other words.
You want an easy button to kill people trying to leave the station.
Try again noob.
I guess u must be in a carebear pve corp that gets war-decced alot so that would make u the noob .
Look the only people that are against this are going to be people who don't like pvp. Why else would u not like an idea that promotes more pvp?
Edit: Also forget this window idea bull****, just check local like you do (or should) be doing now.
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.21 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/04/2010 00:35:27
Originally by: Trader20
I guess u must be in a carebear pve corp that gets war-decced alot so that would make u the noob .
Hey look!! you are a 1 month old alt with no corp history \0/ So I guess you are afraid of posting with your main?
U Mad Now?
-- Khaos Incarnate - ôThe Method Manö
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Look the only people that are against this are going to be people who don't like pvppppppppppppppp. Why else would u not like an idea that promotes more pvp?
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.21 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/04/2010 00:35:27
Originally by: Trader20
I guess u must be in a carebear pve corp that gets war-decced alot so that would make u the noob .
Hey look!! you are a 1 month old alt with no corp history \0/ So I guess you are afraid of posting with your main?
U Mad Now?
Kids these days are so sensitive lol. All ur "witty" comments won't hide ur emo tears dude. U already got owned ealier so just move along......
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.21 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 21/04/2010 00:49:46
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Trader20
Look the only people that are against this are going to be people who don't like pvppppppppppppppp. Why else would u not like an idea that promotes more pvp?
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Theirs Nothing wrong with getting a little help from 100+ friends and rapping a badger. Blob warfare is real, get used to it.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.21 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Trader20
Look the only people that are against this are going to be people who don't like pvppppppppppppppp. Why else would u not like an idea that promotes more pvp?
fixed
Theirs Nothing wrong with getting a little help from 100+ friends and rapping a badger. Blob warfare is real, get used to it.
Not real enough for some people I guess
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Dragonmede
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Posted - 2010.04.21 01:04:00 -
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Learn to use insta-warp bookmarks and you won't have these issues.
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.21 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/04/2010 01:12:59
Originally by: Trader20
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 21/04/2010 00:35:27
Originally by: Trader20
I guess u must be in a carebear pve corp that gets war-decced alot so that would make u the noob .
Hey look!! you are a 1 month old alt with no corp history \0/ So I guess you are afraid of posting with your main?
U Mad Now?
Kids these days are so sensitive lol. All ur "witty" comments won't hide ur emo tears dude. U already got owned ealier so just move along......
Ok cool. Post with your main then? Sadly your alt has no contract history
-- Khaos Incarnate - ôThe Method Manö
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.21 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dragonmede Learn to use insta-warp bookmarks and you won't have these issues.
Wait, how does this fix station docking games? People already know how to dodge camps (insta warp bookmarks) thats not the issue. The issue is the people who undock then instadock to **** off the campers.
The 15km idea wouldn't make it easier or harder to dodge camps, you could use the same tactics as before, but it would make it harder for the docking game carebears to play their games and avoid pvp.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.21 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 21/04/2010 01:20:57
apparently ur butthurt because u keep posting tears in my thread, let it go......
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Eternum Praetorian
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.04.21 01:22:00 -
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But....
But.....
I want to play docking with you . . . in game
Your so L33T? Your not scared are you?
-- Khaos Incarnate - ôThe Method Manö
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2010.04.21 02:37:00 -
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Add a 1 minute timer after docking. You dock up, you can't undock for a minute. Works like the 30 seconds for changing ships and if you can't defeat an opponent in 1 minute while the logistic docks up, you got nothing to complain about.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2010.04.21 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
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Posted - 2010.04.21 05:09:00 -
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People in stations cannot hurt you. If you feel they are a threat, please close local and you have fixed your issue.
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Dizzy Degenerate
Super Serious Business
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Posted - 2010.04.21 08:31:00 -
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Wait. People actually undock?
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.04.21 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jeneroux What do you call 10 people hiding behind the door waiting for someone to walk through?
Sounds like hoodies outside any city post office....
Not being able to look out a window on a space station is somthing thats bugged me for as long as ive been playing.
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chrisss0r
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Posted - 2010.04.21 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: chrisss0r on 21/04/2010 09:08:24
Originally by: Trader20
Originally by: Dragonmede Learn to use insta-warp bookmarks and you won't have these issues.
Wait, how does this fix station docking games? People already know how to dodge camps (insta warp bookmarks) thats not the issue. The issue is the people who undock then instadock to **** off the campers.
The 15km idea wouldn't make it easier or harder to dodge camps, you could use the same tactics as before, but it would make it harder for the docking game carebears to play their games and avoid pvp.
sorry if you really thin that would lead to more pvp you are a moron. Instead of undocking and giving you the opportunity to bump them off they would just stay in station.
Same with the people crying about removing local. Yeah like people would still use officer fit golems in 0.0 then...
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Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.04.21 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: chrisss0r sorry if you really thin that would lead to more pvp you are a moron. Instead of undocking and giving you the opportunity to bump them off they would just stay in station.
Same with the people crying about removing local. Yeah like people would still use officer fit golems in 0.0 then...
I don't care if they want to stay docked until the end of time. It's not the amount of targets that I'm worried about... What ****es me off are these ******ed docking games that certain noobs like to play. Like this one dude from Privateers who did nothing else the entire day except sit on Jita 4-4 at dock range in his CNR, kill anything small and insta-dock if anything bad happened.
It's just frustrating that undocking isn't a real commitment to actually undock. It's simply a way for carebears that don't want to risk their ship to try and exploit idiotic game mechanics for their benefit.
The only people that are against this change are exactly the people that are exploiting this mechanic. Everyone else wants to PVP... not sit at dockrange and play moronic games.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
Originally by: Crumplecorn Agreed as long as there is a way to see outside stations. Dying because you can't look out a frickin' window would be kinda dumb.
i thought undocking then re docking was looking out the window lol
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 11:12:00 -
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"All" they have to do is rewrite the whole part of the engine that determines where and how you exist in space, and then use one of those fancy new render jobs to provide a view in space from the station's perspective. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.21 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 21/04/2010 11:22:30
Originally by: Average Jack What ****es me off are these ******ed docking games that certain noobs like to play.
Then don't play them. You don't have to feed some station camper targets, you know. Only a idiot is going to die on said station when you can stop your ship and simply redock as soon as session timer goes away; the guy is going to get one volley off at best and it's not like you cannot dock while someone has a point on you.
What probably happens is that you try to bait/blob and then it fails and your bait dies and game mechanics are somehow to blame for this.
What you are effectively asking is for it to be a russian roulette every time you're undocking from a station which is not empty, every time you're undocking and local is not empty and so on. Even with a window outside the station; have you ever heard about cloaks? The best bit is that even warping to a station becomes a gamble since docking sometimes takes an arbitrary amount of seconds in which someone could comfortably point you.
The saddest part is if you give scrams the ability to prevent docking, that encourages even more ******ed station camping since now they actually can kill people reliably.
Undocking&redocking only annoys the station campers. Which is quite fine with me; station campers really do not need a boost.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.21 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Edited by: Trader20 on 21/04/2010 00:00:23
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Trader20 Simple solution. Undocking leaves you 15km from the station. Their's only 2 reason to leave a station: 1. Your traveling to a new destination so you won't need to redock right away. 2. Your playing docking games and deserve to be vunerable to campers.
discuss
In other words.
You want an easy button to kill people trying to leave the station.
Try again noob.
I guess u must be in a carebear pve corp that gets war-decced alot so that would make u the noob .
Look the only people that are against this are going to be people who don't like pvp. Why else would u not like an idea that promotes more pvp?
Edit: Also forget this window idea bull****, just check local like you do (or should) be doing now.
Tell more lies about me noob.
Actually I spend a lot of time in and out of 0.0 NPC stations.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.21 12:06:00 -
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Quote: The issue is the people who undock then instadock to **** off the campers.
Wait, that is the issue? I thought that was the desired effect that everyone agreed on should stay.
The only problem are those who agress on station and then can always deagro without any risk due to their plates, trimarks and slaves combined with neutral guardian support.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.21 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
The only problem are those who agress on station and then can always deagro without any risk due to their plates, trimarks and slaves combined with neutral guardian support.
A problem trivially solved by RR giving aggro.
Possibly scaled dock timers per ship meaning somewhat longer for BS and noticeably longer for capitals if its still needed.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.04.21 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shirley Serious Trader20 was one of the chars that got hit by the "audrey bitoni" thing a while back.
I lol'd when I saw it.
it was pretty hilarious :P
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.21 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Furb Killer The only problem are those who agress on station and then can always deagro without any risk due to their plates, trimarks and slaves combined with neutral guardian support.
A problem trivially solved by RR giving aggro.
…more specifically: by having RR give the same docking timers as offensive actions – the aggro is already there in terms of being allowed to shoot the logistics, but since they don't have the timer, they can just redock and shake off any attack.
Quote: Possibly scaled dock timers per ship meaning somewhat longer for BS and noticeably longer for capitals if its still needed.
This is needed as well. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.04.21 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Average Jack on 21/04/2010 12:39:09
Originally by: Cpt Branko Then don't play them. You don't have to feed some station camper targets, you know. Only a idiot is going to die on said station when you can stop your ship and simply redock as soon as session timer goes away; the guy is going to get one volley off at best and it's not like you cannot dock while someone has a point on you.
It's not an option simply "not to play them". Blocking people from undocking (by camping the station) is a required part of any attack on a station system. What should I do? Simply allow the hostiles free access to their station because the game mechanic is so frustrating?
Again: undocking should be a commitment and not a stupid game to "blueball" the attackers because the defender lacks the skill (and balls) to fight properly. This is not only problematic when you have neutral logistics involved (that's just an added ******ation-bonus by CCP). It sucks in any situation and finally should be addressed properly.
Originally by: Cpt Branko Undocking&redocking only annoys the station campers. Which is quite fine with me; station campers really do not need a boost.
A boost? Because they can't play their games any more without being killed...? U mad? You seem to be forgetting that the station campers are the people who would suffer the most from this change (because after being forced to dock they can't undock again). That's sorta the point of camping a station, no?
The only difference would be that the people with docking rights at a station could no longer bore other player to tears. Either they stay docked or they undock and can be engaged. Either or.
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