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Homo Erectus
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:29:00 -
[1651]
WELL IT'S BEEN FUN OWNING YOU. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOUR FORUM POSTING SKILLS HAVE IMPROVED. PERHAPS ELITISTOPS CAN TEACH YOU SOME TRICKS. THEY PAID 10 BUX SO THEY ARE PROBLY AWESOME.
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hattifnatt
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:32:00 -
[1652]
I personally find IT guys taking the moral high ground on exploits interesting.
And a caps version for the people who are in the process of learning to read.
IT WHINING ABOUT EXPLOITS IS LOL!!!
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cigarellos
Path of Now and Forever
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:43:00 -
[1653]
Originally by: Grath Telkin ...i found the reference of male genitalia in your name disturbing, so i reported you instead.
lol FACEPALM
-cig
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LoudMouth InLocal
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:50:00 -
[1654]
Originally by: hattifnatt I personally find IT guys taking the moral high ground on exploits interesting.
And a caps version for the people who are in the process of learning to read.
IT WHINING ABOUT EXPLOITS IS LOL!!!
Keep deflecting, brah :)
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Cartune
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:53:00 -
[1655]
Originally by: hattifnatt taking the moral high ground on exploits
Originally by: Romale you do realize you talking to kugu's boys right?
What's truly lol is the ally posturing themselves as kug's pets being so tiresomely fail at social engineering
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Dianeces
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.25 21:58:00 -
[1656]
Originally by: Cartune
Originally by: hattifnatt taking the moral high ground on exploits
Originally by: Romale you do realize you talking to kugu's boys right?
What's truly lol is the ally posturing themselves as kug's pets being so tiresomely fail at social engineering
I'm not sure you understand what social engineering is.
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FactorLT
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:13:00 -
[1657]
Its starting to be discusting,with a PL campaing shouting in every local they go "Monkeysphere is our hero" what does it means that he is gratest cheater from PL??? Man you need to fire your PR officer.Couse now from Pandemic Legion you became Pathetic Legion In RA we trust |
Pr1ncess Alia
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:17:00 -
[1658]
Originally by: Homo Erectus WELL IT'S BEEN FUN OWNING YOU.
shouldn't you be busy recruiting another few thousand members?
I don't think you have enough.
"A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game." |
LdyScrltisfat
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:53:00 -
[1659]
Originally by: kaisersauzee ITT bobbits claiming the morale high ground in an exploit thread
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DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.25 22:58:00 -
[1660]
Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL OR DID IT APPEAR RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOM
I lol'ed
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Ronos
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:10:00 -
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LOL. I love this thread ! Kill the Bots ! Allow exploiters to kill the Bots !! Only one issue with this..... what happens when the exploiters get bored with the bots and the bot like ratters ? What happens when they decide to share the exploit with thier friends and start taking down alliances etc....
I remember awhile back the talk about changing or delaying local abit when you jump into a system in 0.0, looks like some of that info found its way into monkeysphere's hands.... if ccp can catch him exploiting... do you ban him or hire him as a dev?..... LOL
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL OR DID IT APPEAR RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOM
Your insensitivity to real life issues is most disturbing, considering the ehonor accompanying your enormous pile of douchebaggery that you refer to as an alliance, I would have expected more when dealing with real life tragedies.
Oh wait, you mean this wasn't you trolling? Was this seriuz biznus?
Oh and, u mad?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:29:00 -
[1663]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 as no one would know to distinguish between the two.
This is the theme of the thread really.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:30:00 -
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You know I really really hate to drag this thread back ontopic but does anyone at all have any evidence that monkey is using exploits past the testimony of a guy who herd it from another guy who happened to read it on a fan forum? Now before people get all huffy and stuff I'm not saying he isn't exploiting but simply curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act?
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba You know I really really hate to drag this thread back ontopic but does anyone at all have any evidence that monkey is using exploits past the testimony of a guy who herd it from another guy who happened to read it on a fan forum? Now before people get all huffy and stuff I'm not saying he isn't exploiting but simply curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act?
Don't worry. Let CCP put the puzzle together. They will. All the pieces are there.
And the evidence you seek, you know, him FRAPSing himself cheating and exploiting, because it's the only evidence that some of you will accept along with a signed confession from him, to my knowledge does not exist. But to anyone with even a little bit of sense of obviousness all these discrepancies lead to something definitely not being right. And PL's claim that he's just using this legit but "supder duper and seekrit technique" to amass all those kills is suspect at best.
If this were true PL would have no problems in letting CCP know what this "super seekrit technique" is and just letting this whole issue die. But the fact is that there is smoke and it's coming from Pandemic Legion's house.
But again, us having to provide you with proof is not even necessary at this point. You'll have to ask CCP to prove to you that the monkeydude is cheating, not us.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Kazexinca
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:46:00 -
[1666]
Edited by: Kazexinca on 25/04/2010 23:48:26
Originally by: Homo Erectus WELL IT'S BEEN FUN OWNING YOU. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOUR FORUM POSTING SKILLS HAVE IMPROVED. PERHAPS ELITISTOPS CAN TEACH YOU SOME TRICKS. THEY PAID 10 BUX SO THEY ARE PROBLY AWESOME.
Plz Sir mOLLE keep your Band of cheaters in check for future reference.
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Ellatan Deruimte
Surreal corp Stain Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.25 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba You know I really really hate to drag this thread back ontopic but does anyone at all have any evidence that monkey is using exploits past the testimony of a guy who herd it from another guy who happened to read it on a fan forum? Now before people get all huffy and stuff I'm not saying he isn't exploiting but simply curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act?
Enlighten us, how would you catch him in the act. Are you going to fraps all day long just in case he comes over your system? I think you would run out of hard drive space. If you push to fraps after he appeared out of nowhere, then all you are going to record is Arazu tackling you in the belt. You can't see it coming, so it's near impossible to get "proof" or record it. In any case that proof doesn't mean anything to CCP, they don't accept player made screenshots and videos as evidence, they only rely on their server side logs. The videos that were made to demonstrate the bug were not for CCP, they were made for the community awareness. CCP received detailed bug reports about the mechanic behind the exploit, so hopefully they will figure out a way to seal the breach in their client. There are dozens of reports by different people on the Russian forums, describing the same Monkeysphere experience, which is exactly the same as was shown in the videos. Can they all be wrong at the same time? I don't think so.
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Orephia
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Posted - 2010.04.26 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act?
In the early pages of the thread, Lee Kin recounts himself and a group of covert gate watchers observing The Monkeysphere pass thru a series of systems without appearing in local, and said screenies were made. 'Seems credible', but what is proof?
PL et al has spammed the thread with enough disinfo to gag a maggot, starting with nonsense posts & Animal Farm and progressively attempting to "stack ****" higher than a hung dead python. If the Lee Kin account is true, then among that group of pilots, there is proof. The larger community can only wait for CCP to harvest all the info they've acquired & hope that the logs can be analyzed in a manner that will reveal something that the perps are unaware of.
Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL...
biggest bellylaugh in the thread atm. ancient vets rule |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.04.26 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ellatan Deruimte
Originally by: Zeba You know I really really hate to drag this thread back ontopic but does anyone at all have any evidence that monkey is using exploits past the testimony of a guy who herd it from another guy who happened to read it on a fan forum? Now before people get all huffy and stuff I'm not saying he isn't exploiting but simply curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act?
Enlighten us, how would you catch him in the act. Are you going to fraps all day long just in case he comes over your system? I think you would run out of hard drive space. If you push to fraps after he appeared out of nowhere, then all you are going to record is Arazu tackling you in the belt. You can't see it coming, so it's near impossible to get "proof" or record it. In any case that proof doesn't mean anything to CCP, they don't accept player made screenshots and videos as evidence, they only rely on their server side logs. The videos that were made to demonstrate the bug were not for CCP, they were made for the community awareness. CCP received detailed bug reports about the mechanic behind the exploit, so hopefully they will figure out a way to seal the breach in their client. There are dozens of reports by different people on the Russian forums, describing the same Monkeysphere experience, which is exactly the same as was shown in the videos. Can they all be wrong at the same time? I don't think so.
Yes yes we know all this and I don't for a millisecond think that any side of the argument so far has been unbiased as far as the 'testimony' is concerned. Noone in this game is going to admit to anything unless they are literally pinned to the wall with absolutely 100% unrefutable proof. This is exactly what this thread has been saying the last 5X pages. Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.26 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act
Yes, a few players have, if they're to be believed. Originally by: Zeba with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
Solid proof as in FRAPS? No.
But I doubt it will now be possible to FRAPS him as I highly suspect he'll maintain a very low profile for the next few months. I doubt he'll be using his super seekrit technique" any time soon. And I expect his killboard stats to become less bloated with kills too.
But, it is up to CCP to share all the findings with us (I doubt it). But I do believe they should be able to determine within reasonable certainty whether this monkey dude is cheating or not.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
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Lady Aja
Caldari IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.26 00:45:00 -
[1671]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act
Yes, a few players have, if they're to be believed. Originally by: Zeba with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
Solid proof as in FRAPS? No.
But I doubt it will now be possible to FRAPS him as I highly suspect he'll maintain a very low profile for the next few months. I doubt he'll be using his super seekrit technique" any time soon. And I expect his killboard stats to become less bloated with kills too.
But, it is up to CCP to share all the findings with us (I doubt it). But I do believe they should be able to determine within reasonable certainty whether this monkey dude is cheating or not.
no matter what the russians claim to know how to duplicate the advantage, so only a matter of time till most of eve can do it.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.26 00:50:00 -
[1672]
Originally by: Lady Aja
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act
Yes, a few players have, if they're to be believed. Originally by: Zeba with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
Solid proof as in FRAPS? No.
But I doubt it will now be possible to FRAPS him as I highly suspect he'll maintain a very low profile for the next few months. I doubt he'll be using his super seekrit technique" any time soon. And I expect his killboard stats to become less bloated with kills too.
But, it is up to CCP to share all the findings with us (I doubt it). But I do believe they should be able to determine within reasonable certainty whether this monkey dude is cheating or not.
no matter what the russians claim to know how to duplicate the advantage, so only a matter of time till most of eve can do it.
Well then, Monkeyman's killboard stats should only improve by a huge margin when he figures out how to execute the exploit , because you know, he's not already using it. I guess we should expect an improvement to his KD ratio, not a decrease :P. We'll see who's right.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Ellatan Deruimte
Surreal corp Stain Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.26 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
What is "the solid proof"? We are going around in circles, the only possible solid proof is in the hands of CCP, you should ask them. I doubt that they will let you know though.
Originally by: Lady Aja No matter what the russians claim to know how to duplicate the advantage, so only a matter of time till most of eve can do it.
Of course at some point more people might figure it out, that's why the bug was reported in detail, so CCP can prevent players from abusing it. What one man can do, another can do, prevention is the key.
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2010.04.26 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL OR DID IT APPEAR RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOM
You just made my day. PL really needs to figure out they arent improveing the situation by spamming, just ****ing more people off. I'd be very intrested to hear CCP's result regardless of whether or not monkey was cheating. The exploit should be resolved now that its proven possible.
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Elyseum
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Posted - 2010.04.26 03:22:00 -
[1675]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL OR DID IT APPEAR RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOM
I lol'ed
as did I
best comment of this thread
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DarkFollower
Amarr The Edge Foundation Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.04.26 04:43:00 -
[1676]
Edited by: DarkFollower on 26/04/2010 04:54:56
Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
You guys are deluding youreselfs if you think for one second this is a court of law , where you need proof to get banned or if it's any relation to a court of law This a game that is owned by CCP ,and when i say owned i say they own everything
This is CCP's game and they can do whatever they want , whenever they want and to whomever they want if it refers to anything of their property wich is the game , your accounts , ingame items etc. And you all agreed to this when you pressed accept on that EULA
So with that said , CCP doesn't need undeniably proof that monkey or whomever for that fact committed an exploit , as a matter of fact they don't need any proof at all They can use the ban hammer at any time if they feel it will benefit the game and/or them
I hope both of you "sides" understand this because it applyes to each one of you The fact that they are trying to find the truth and not ban an innocent(s) is commendable but they are not bound by anything to do it.
edit: also HTFU
Cap rechargers on PvP ships Suxxor monkey ballzorz!!
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Aphser
Amarr Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.04.26 04:47:00 -
[1677]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We have received the bug reports and gone over the information in this thread and other discussions. We're investigating the issue and we'll post updated information as soon as we can.
That was like 3 days ago? Any update?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.04.26 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: DarkFollower Edited by: DarkFollower on 26/04/2010 04:54:56
Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act with solid proof to back up the claim or not?
You guys are deluding youreselfs if you think for one second this is a court of law , where you need proof to get banned or if it's any relation to a court of law This a game that is owned by CCP ,and when i say owned i say they own everything
This is CCP's game and they can do whatever they want , whenever they want and to whomever they want if it refers to anything of their property wich is the game , your accounts , ingame items etc. And you all agreed to this when you pressed accept on that EULA
So with that said , CCP doesn't need undeniably proof that monkey or whomever for that fact committed an exploit , as a matter of fact they don't need any proof at all They can use the ban hammer at any time if they feel it will benefit the game and/or them
I hope both of you "sides" understand this because it applyes to each one of you The fact that they are trying to find the truth and not ban an innocent(s) is commendable but they are not bound by anything to do it.
edit: also HTFU
Heh, this was exactly the point I was going to make but was waiting to snipe the page. Oh well, you said it better than I was going to. But yeah if ccp looks at the killmails from the api and comes to the conclusion that there was no possible way he could make it to each kill in time using unmodified game mechanics then they can ban him simply because they can and not ever say another official word on the subject past a carefully generic 'yup we plugged the sploit and banned some naughty players'.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.04.26 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Aphser
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We have received the bug reports and gone over the information in this thread and other discussions. We're investigating the issue and we'll post updated information as soon as we can.
That was like 3 days ago? Any update?
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Frug
Omega Wing
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Posted - 2010.04.26 05:21:00 -
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I feel the need to contribute to this epic thread.
By posting.
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