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Goto78
Caldari R E D E M P T I O N Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Goto78 on 18/04/2010 11:13:26 Top killers April 2010 # Corporation Kills 1. R E D E M P T I O N 1784 2. The Exploited. 1263 3. Unknown-Entity 1216 4. Imperium Forces 1100 5. Polaris Rising 877 6. Sacred Templars 868 7. I.M.M 720 8. Hikage Corporation 698 9. 4 wing 403 10. Phoenix Industries 316 11. ADVANCED Combat and Engineering 261 12. VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD 255 13. Steel Soldier's 213 14. StoneDogS 123
Quote: 15. Shadows Of The Requiem 71
16. The Dead Pod Society 67 17. The Amesha Spentaz Irregulars 38 18. legion of qui 18
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Montol
Gallente Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Montol on 18/04/2010 11:28:46
Originally by: Goto78 Edited by: Goto78 on 18/04/2010 11:13:26 Top killers April 2010 # Corporation Kills 1. R E D E M P T I O N 1784 2. The Exploited. 1263 3. Unknown-Entity 1216 4. Imperium Forces 1100 5. Polaris Rising 877 6. Sacred Templars 868 7. I.M.M 720 8. Hikage Corporation 698 9. 4 wing 403 10. Phoenix Industries 316 11. ADVANCED Combat and Engineering 261 12. VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD 255 13. Steel Soldier's 213 14. StoneDogS 123
Quote: 15. Shadows Of The Requiem 71
16. The Dead Pod Society 67 17. The Amesha Spentaz Irregulars 38 18. legion of qui 18
Ahh yes, the infamous number of kills reply and absolutely nothing else, as you lack knowledge of what to do after. Been with blast bout 15 days, tho been in eve early 06 ya been. How the fact that numbers alone isn't everything has escaped you is amazing. How many of those kills have been enjoyable? have given the rush? and how about how many in massive fleets, or ones you tagged along with IT? or the losses associated, and efficiency ratings? numbers are just numbers and tell nothing else, and without deeper information only provide the slightest insight.
For example, redemption has 223 or so members, and sotr has 44, but I know that sotr has a number of dead characters that we haven't gotten to cleaning, as well as a number out due to RL reasons such as deployment. We also have grown rapidly tired of massive blob warfare, hence our lack of participation in the last week of the campaign vs the NC (with the most active fleets also being EU timezone, and us being primarily a US corp).
Surface information only provides surface impressions, which sadly seems to be all that people desire to form their opinions these days...
Come back when you can learn to talk some.
*edit* I'd also like to know how the relevance of kills this month plays in. We just brought to light an event that unfolded out in Fountain.
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tyrol
Gallente R E D E M P T I O N Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: tyrol on 18/04/2010 12:33:38 montol - no, backstabbing itself is not cool, however if it had been a major battle over an important/strategic piece of space in a major war (which last night wasn't btw) and your acts had turned the tide of the battle then perhaps it would have been thread worthy. however as is usually the case, all you have done is highlight how trustworthy your corp is and thanks to goto, how vital your corp was to our alliances survival. 90% of these types of threads are from corps who acheieve very little in their eve lives and then brag about something which they consider huge which actually turn out to be insignificant in the grand scheme of eve politics and then they usually find most of the thread is taken up by people pointing that fact out.
enjoy your moment of glory, i wish your corp the best but continuing to try and justify your greatness is only going to make it worse. ;-)
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G
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Posted - 2010.04.18 12:41:00 -
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So.. killed some BS and ****?
I'm not understanding the importance of this. ________
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5n4keyes
Caldari Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 12:45:00 -
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Our space had an SBU dropped, so naturally we are going to run home, since sadly everyone doesnt login at the same time, we could only rush home a certain number of people, and hope people had jump clones, so sure gang size wasnt perfect.
I think either way you look at this, Panda's had things very very good, HAC's with logistics, and bombers to switch out to, realistically to kill an SBU you need Battleships and Caps, dont think theres anyone in the game that wouldnt of been at a disadvantage against that. So yep we lost more, some very good bombing runs, as Panda's usually do, but we got the SBU down.
Now for Shadows Of The Requiem, probably one of the worst attempts to backstab an alliance on the way out, first warping a smartbombing ship ontop of our main gang, killing a couple. Tho logic should of been to knock out one of the FCs in cloaking ships... And then the rather annoying fleet warp by the CEO of the corp no less, sure got a few battleships killed. Tho, now your kicked, and I wish you good luck, wonder if there are alliances out there that accept butthurt five year olds who really dont do this whole pvp and backstab thing very well.
And to Panda's, Ugh, really, why so many jammers :(
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Green Nephilim
Gallente Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2010.04.18 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Green Nephilim on 18/04/2010 12:55:36 After reading more of this drivel I think BLAST come out on top.
Great PR job.....
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Faekurias
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.04.18 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon So.. killed some BS and ****?
I'm not understanding the importance of this.
-Mad at own alliance -Helps trap it on occassion -Gets kicked -Post on forums
(Now is time for profit)
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GhostStalker
Amarr The Exploited. Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:06:00 -
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Who are these BLAST guys anyways?
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Kainos Kerensky
Caldari Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Green Nephilim Edited by: Green Nephilim on 18/04/2010 12:55:36 After reading more of this drivel I think BLAST come out on top.
Great PR job.....
With nearly 2000 members BLAST could come out on top if they would wake up and stop doing mistakes most of us would expect of a 10 year old playing this game... Warping Aeons to a gate, losing a mothership in a belt (or was it a complex) warping carriers to a gate and leaving them there without support during a battle, losing when you outnumber a local guerrilla forces 2/1 or even 3/1, screaming at your members till they refuse to log on.
The funny part is the other CEOs that talked to me before about leaving, peacefully in fact, back when I did so wish to do that, they were unhappy with BLAST leadership, couldn't stand the way favorites were played, now one is a head FC in the alliance and suddenly doesn't mind the problems that once were... Probably because there's a little more profit and sugar coating up at the top with the ongoing stroke fest.
Oh, and Green Nephilim, my PR can go through the ground for all I care, it is a game after all, and I play to have fun, which I am having more now that I'm free to fly and shoot as I wish, rather than abide by the fascist articles of debauchery BLAST implements. The real PR that above BLAST members want to hide by posting our low kills for the last month, are the highlights Montol already mentioned, the nearly 2000 member alliance that couldn't even get 100 pilots in fleet. And dont say you did BLAST because kill logs will show that HUN was there making up a part of that fleet. What they havnt told you is that nearly 150 pilots where online at most points of the day of that 2000 members alliance, and for the longest time there were 80 in fleet.
You say that it was hard to recall members? You have station systems to jump clone too, and orders to keep ships back on the home front. It was a Saturday morning (mid day EU) when this started, it crossed two time zones and yet people just didn't come. You managed to not even get 50% of the online alliance into fleet. Was it really short notice? Not so much, turbo sent out a mail immediately, SOTR saw it and got online for it, again with intention to kill Panda until the final straw that broke our patience. No, not short notice, lack of caring from so many in your "alliance"
How can you call yourselves allies of IT Alliance, or anyone else? You have proven over and over you cannot defend your space properly even when you were not deployed to pure blind and all assets are in NPC/Minotaur fountain. If the new goons marched on you overnight fountain would fall unless IT came and did the entire rescue themselves. But then again, one of your senior FCs yesterday did say that you all arnt worth a dime to him, you guys only join IT fleets, so their fleet would gain some cannon fodder. If senior personel are openly saying this, what does that tell you at the leadership level? They have no confidence in your ability to do anything on your own. You know what it tells me? It tells me many of you do not trust your alliance leaders or FCs to take you in battle, probably because they get you slaughtered like so many flies on a windshield.
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Necronym
Minmatar Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: 5n4keyes
wonder if there are alliances out there that accept butthurt five year olds who really dont do this whole pvp and backstab thing very poorly.
Helped fixed this part for you :) However, you have expressed my thoughts almost perfectly!
GL to the 5yr old lead SOTR.. gl getting into ANY alliance again.
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Montol
Gallente Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:30:00 -
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@tyrol, ahh, an oversight I guess, tho I tend to see those who have been out for near a month to have lost some of the loop, tho teaches me for 5am posts whilst getting that 'post on coad' off my to do list in eve... which has been shortened of late. but anyways! rest o corp asleep and I feel like givin some replies and ignoring the trolls.
Eh, glory is bull, and it would be wrong to assume we did this act or this post on a want of 'glory'. We found it entertaining, and felt that if others may find some enjoyment(and in my mind, some enlightenment as well) then it is well worth whatever disparaging remarks we may receive from those we have never heard of. Whether people see importance/value or not is up to them, people post if they feel it is worthy, that is all that matters.(The GM's determine if it is appropriate hehe)
People in EVE these days try to give things value too much now, or labels and reasoning(or lack thereof) for what is done. It is a game, we don't need to have a big huge motive or desire for some greater thing. We wanted fun, we found our current situation not conducive to that, so we set to leave. Just before we did a CTA came near us so we went with as a final fly together, but a final nerve hit us after some remarks and we decided to do what we ended up doing: 'betraying' you. Seeing as we have noted several times this wasn't our original intent, it obviously wasn't going to be premeditated as to get into your most epic betrayal list of all time.
For those that missed this remark of our original intent...
Originally by: Kainos Kerensky The leader of BLAST, TurboDog2 sent out a Call To Arms asking all pilots to retreat from the northern pure blind area to come protect the homeland. During this time the Corporation of Shadows Of The Requiem was preparing to part ways with BLAST due to a multitude of internal leadership issues in the alliance that had given a bad taste to the SOTR. Corporation, as well as so many BLAST pilots of other corps. The timing was however impeccable when the CTA went up and SOTR members joined to help as a final goodbye to the alliance they had served with over the last few months. SOTR leaders quickly became disheartened by what would be referred to as "disparaging" remarks from the BLAST leadership cursing its members, and one BLAST leader saying "these pilots are not worth a dime. All they do is join IT fleet in north!" SOTR Leadership decided enough was enough and an example would be made this day.
mmm, and at Tyrol again. Justifying my glory? I'm responding to the rebuttal of another in a thread. Then again defending myself is a matter of justifying, so I guess it is, but the same holds true for you and all others involved in the matter: Your responses are all in works to defend your own glory by giving your own justifications and definitions of what you determine who is right. For you it seems the number of kills is all. For us, its enjoyment.
To start wrapping up(and to avoid further post overlap, damn ninja posted by corpie making this), our value to the alliance survivability? Have you been blind to what kills most alliances that make it this far? It is internal factors, rarely ever is it truly due to just how many times your members get killed. I've been in half a dozen corps and alliances that fell either because the leadership conflicted and crashed, or the good leaders had to leave for whatever reason. Examples we can all also see are goons, a leader got mad, and look what happened, sure they've reformed, but you can hardly call them the same.
And oh, for all you smart***es wishing us luck on future alliances, we aren't looking, but we've already received offers from several mid-level pvp and pirate alliances. Don't you just love it when your retorts backfire? (I wonder how long til someone finds one of mine to do it on...)
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Green Nephilim
Gallente Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:37:00 -
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Thank you for the comprehensive reply I hope it did not take too long to compile
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Kainos Kerensky
Caldari Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Green Nephilim Thank you for the comprehensive reply I hope it did not take too long to compile
We type fast
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Raithius
Caldari Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Raithius on 18/04/2010 13:59:17 Was right next that hype when he started using smarties, in a claymore... got me to 70% shields before he was called primary for bein a **** went pop lol. And the only reason the logis went down is prob because of the amount of dps they already had on them, and the hype tipped the rr/dps scale a abit too much.
God job totally screwing you're corps reputation, dont let the door hit you in the ass now ya hear?...
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. |
Kainos Kerensky
Caldari Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Raithius Edited by: Raithius on 18/04/2010 13:59:17 Was right next that hype when he started using smarties, in a claymore... got me to 70% shields before he was called primary for bein a **** went pop lol. And the only reason the logis went down is prob because of the amount of dps they already had on them, and the hype tipped the rr/dps scale a abit too much.
God job totally screwing you're corps reputation, dont let the door hit you in the ass now ya hear?...
That was the idea of the hyp, to suicide in the middle of your ball causing dps everywhere to break the logis... Wasnt that mentioned?
There is no door in space genius, especially BLAST space. There are like 5 reds in your space as I type this, and around 40 or so "blues" and nobody is undocking for fear of death.
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innot
Minmatar The Exploited. Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:09:00 -
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sorry, who are Shadows Of The Requiem?
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Montol
Gallente Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:14:00 -
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*sigh* I'm going to soil myself and match troll for troll...
Originally by: innot sorry, who are Shadows Of The Requiem?
uhmm, sorry, who are you? plugged IN NOT working? sorry, don't know you either, carry on.
See what happens when people just post meaningless posts at an attempt of insult? it degenerates!
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Raithius
Caldari Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:14:00 -
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Not a fan of the metaphor i guess lol
And forgive me for not reading all this drival, was just trying to pick out the highlights :-P
And i am at work, is why im docked :)
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. |
vulnevia
Gallente The Exploited. Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Montol and sotr has 44 (members), but I know that sotr has a number of dead characters that we haven't gotten to cleaning, as well as a number out due to RL reasons such as deployment.
Funny that you talk numbers when many induvidual members of BLAST have more kills than your whole corp during April. So I guess size doesn't matter this time
EVE is what you make it to be, so you can hardly blame the BLAST leadership for bad PVP when many people enjoy the PVP in BLAST. --------- the EVE Crafting Blog |
Montol
Gallente Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Montol on 18/04/2010 14:43:12
Originally by: vulnevia Edited by: vulnevia on 18/04/2010 14:28:44
Originally by: Montol and sotr has 44 (members), but I know that sotr has a number of dead characters that we haven't gotten to cleaning, as well as a number out due to RL reasons such as deployment.
Funny that you talk numbers when many induvidual members of BLAST have more kills than your whole corp during April. So I guess size doesn't matter this time
EVE is what you make it to be, so you can hardly blame the BLAST leadership for bad PVP when many people enjoy the PVP in BLAST.
Also: Leave Innot alone!
Eh, can't have my fun with Innot? I thought it creative enough, I dislike just pure troll no thought, tho had to give it a shot, neways.
Yes good point, there are people with more kills than the whole corp, and also as mentioned EVE is what we make it to be. Just as matter of fact, no excuse or reasoning or whatnot, the past month we've been inactive as we were trying to find a way to find our enjoyment, as well as awaiting our illustrious leaders return from RL obligations. Take for what you will, but back on course...
Many seem to equate the number of kills to be all that matters, I myself with my screwy schedule of college studies and work, I find my bit of EVE to be the quality of action. I'd rather have 5 kills in a day where the action was close, hands keep shaking for minutes on end, and the battle could have turned on the actions of a single mistake, a single pilot error in a small group. Admittedly I wasn't always this way, I found enjoyment in being able to say I was with a giant fleet of 300 and we totally annihilated another blob, but now the matter of fact awesomeness of size is no more, and I desire more than, 'primary xxx' *click*, f1-f8, wait, next primary...
So yes, I will acknowledge that your point of our corp having fewer kills than a single given particular pilot, but I'd also point that a majority of those kills likely don't match my desires, and thus I don't see the fun in having 100 kills in a given month, week or even day if your just part of the blob. But, eh, as we can all (hopefully) agree, it is all what we make of it...which sadly makes any discussion over it tend to always have no chance of advancing. Opinions are such a hard thing to argue when treated as fact or the only way it can be...
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Master Zeuth
Gallente Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: vulnevia Edited by: vulnevia on 18/04/2010 14:28:44
Originally by: Montol and sotr has 44 (members), but I know that sotr has a number of dead characters that we haven't gotten to cleaning, as well as a number out due to RL reasons such as deployment.
Funny that you talk numbers when many induvidual members of BLAST have more kills than your whole corp during April. So I guess size doesn't matter this time
EVE is what you make it to be, so you can hardly blame the BLAST leadership for bad PVP when many people enjoy the PVP in BLAST.
Also: Leave Innot alone!
More kills in 200-man IT BS Gangs? Please stop trying.
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Kainos Kerensky
Caldari Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kainos Kerensky on 18/04/2010 14:55:44 Edited by: Kainos Kerensky on 18/04/2010 14:54:37
Originally by: vulnevia
many people enjoy the PVP in BLAST.
Indeed, and by enjoy you mean the inevitable loss of fleet comms, screaming, yelling, throwing carriers on a gate, cursing and general anarchy that occurs during fleet operations like this one... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5887459
or... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5865338
or... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5828761
or better yet... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6361130
Theres your PVP, and theres your numbers m8, enjoy yourself! See you on the internet spaceship battlefield :-)
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.18 14:59:00 -
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80/150 isnt terrible, accounting for alts and AFK'ers
if you get upset by things like that, don't bother joining any alliance - ever ----------
~bitter dog~
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CamMan
Caldari Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:09:00 -
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maybe you should think of renaming your corp to the "delusionary cry babies".
because this is how the summary of all your posts in here read, I didnt like being in BLAST because they werent l33t enough for me. So instead of leaving like a gentleman "I backstabbed them for lols, as I am awesome".
Although your corp has no presence on the BLAST killboard, your backstabbing was ineffective, and you couldnt even kill an afk SC at a gate even with hostile help. But you still think any alliance would be lucky to have a corp that backstabs when things dont go their way, has next to no active members, and cries on CAOD about .... hmmm .... well I dont even know what to call it.
good luck in your future ... whatever your corp name is, I think you are going to need it.
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Kainos Kerensky
Caldari Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: CamMan
maybe you should think of renaming your corp to the "delusionary cry babies".
because this is how the summary of all your posts in here read, I didnt like being in BLAST because they werent l33t enough for me. So instead of leaving like a gentleman "I backstabbed them for lols, as I am awesome".
Although your corp has no presence on the BLAST killboard, your backstabbing was ineffective, and you couldnt even kill an afk SC at a gate even with hostile help. But you still think any alliance would be lucky to have a corp that backstabs when things dont go their way, has next to no active members, and cries on CAOD about .... hmmm .... well I dont even know what to call it.
good luck in your future ... whatever your corp name is, I think you are going to need it.
All I heard was... whaa... my poor pets! whaa!! Dont make them come to fountain cause we cant use them as cannon fodder against the NC! whaa!
Oh and btw, if a 100 man fleet couldnt save a super carrier against a group of 40-50 in a home system with other cap support... the devs would probably have had to disband BLAST themselves
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innot
Minmatar The Exploited. Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:16:00 -
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Boring thread is boring, you wont be missed
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Raithius
Caldari Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kainos Kerensky Edited by: Kainos Kerensky on 18/04/2010 14:55:44 Edited by: Kainos Kerensky on 18/04/2010 14:54:37
Originally by: vulnevia
many people enjoy the PVP in BLAST.
Indeed, and by enjoy you mean the inevitable loss of fleet comms, screaming, yelling, throwing carriers on a gate, cursing and general anarchy that occurs during fleet operations like this one... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5887459
or... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5865338
or... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5828761
or better yet... http://bsa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6361130
Theres your PVP, and theres your numbers m8, enjoy yourself! See you on the internet spaceship battlefield :-)
So i guess your corpie's rah rah post about the unimportance of alliance kb ranking is null and void with this post eh?
------------------------------------------------- And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. |
Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:38:00 -
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there is nothing like a good thread on caod and this is nothing like a good thread.
The Dark is Rising...
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AnatomicalFaith
Gallente Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:42:00 -
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At any rate it all comes down to this
Panda = 194 Members Blast = 1781 Members
... doesnt anybody else see something wrong with this?
Panda Team has been beating these guys like red headed step children from the time IT's clown car pulled up and they dumped these jokers into the Minotaur Const. So honestly at the end of the day I guess something to look at is this pplz lol WTH is wrong with BLAST's leadership to allow all this to go on? Turbodog2 < nough said
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exlore
Caldari Nictus Astartes Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.04.18 15:55:00 -
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All I can say is; Raiiden you suck.
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