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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:42:00 -
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I was looking at the map and the pattern is pretty predictable. Central high sec which fades outward into low sec and then a big patch of null sec.
I think it would be interesting to have two central high sec areas BUT have them divided by a big patch of null sec space.
The challenge for those that play it safe is to continue with business while trying to bridge outlaw space.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:46:00 -
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Even within Empire activity is concentrated in Jita, and other places to a lesser degree. Why would people unwilling to even spread out within Empire do business across unsafe borders? |
Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Even within Empire activity is concentrated in Jita, and other places to a lesser degree. Why would people unwilling to even spread out within Empire do business across unsafe borders?
well I cant speak for all but I would just for the challenge. |
Shadowy Assistant
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:47:00 -
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Actually, I really like this idea. Would lead to two distinct markets and much profitability for those who succeed in the dangerous task of hauling between the two pockets of high-sec. |
masternerdguy
Gallente Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:48:00 -
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yes...danger....
aka big alliances charge tolls for moving across OR they simply do the trading themselves and shoot all neuts. |
yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy I scared... hold me pls
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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.11 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowy Assistant Actually, I really like this idea. Would lead to two distinct markets and much profitability for those who succeed in the dangerous task of hauling between the two pockets of high-sec.
exactly.
CCP could also add to the drama by having certain resources available at one pocket but not the other, though i believe there would bee too much whining if it went that far.
BUT THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE AWESOME!! |
masternerdguy
Gallente Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2010.04.11 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: yourdoingitwrong
Originally by: masternerdguy I scared... hold me pls
hahaha i see wut you did there
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Rpeg
Minmatar Rosa Castellum
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Posted - 2010.04.11 20:31:00 -
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I'm a Hi-sec player and I say we need LESS hi-sec space. -- autechre - ep7 - track 1: rpeg estevancarlos.com |
Amberlamps
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Posted - 2010.04.11 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch I would just for the challenge.
Why don't you go do that now? Perhaps set destination for a certain area of 0.0 and get some trade skills for remote selling and buying... Go buy a crapton of vital equipment and put them back up on the market at a stupid mark up price. Trust me it works... I got away with selling Covert ops cloaks at 15mil a piece. Even though I had just bought them for about 7mil in empire.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 00:17:00 -
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Actually, I love little high-sec "islands". They're grossly underpopulated, the market is terrible, and a sense of independence is there without getting shot in the face.
If they made two large islands, I can really all sorts of conflicts arising. That, or make players HAVE to travel in low-sec to get between the four empires. It would decentralize the economy.
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Jathlor
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Posted - 2010.04.12 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jathlor on 12/04/2010 00:42:37 Good idea...why not have each of the four empires have their own high sec island surrounded by low sec, and make certain materials/ore spawn only in one section. Would definitely decentralize Jita and make hauling a more lucrative profession. I wouldn't think it would have to be null sec seperating the areas though. It would sure take a lot of reworking the map though.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.04.12 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Even within Empire activity is concentrated in Jita, and other places to a lesser degree. Why would people unwilling to even spread out within Empire do business across unsafe borders?
CRUMPLECORN! When did you come back?!
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 12/04/2010 01:04:02
Originally by: Amberlamps
Originally by: Atticus Fynch I would just for the challenge.
Why don't you go do that now? Perhaps set destination for a certain area of 0.0 and get some trade skills for remote selling and buying... Go buy a crapton of vital equipment and put them back up on the market at a stupid mark up price. Trust me it works... I got away with selling Covert ops cloaks at 15mil a piece. Even though I had just bought them for about 7mil in empire.
Hmmm.
I hadn't thought of that. I'm still fairly new to eve and still need to learn all the ins and outs.
Thanks!!
Originally by: Jathlor Edited by: Jathlor on 12/04/2010 00:42:37 Good idea...why not have each of the four empires have their own high sec island surrounded by low sec, and make certain materials/ore spawn only in one section. Would definitely decentralize Jita and make hauling a more lucrative profession. I wouldn't think it would have to be null sec seperating the areas though. It would sure take a lot of reworking the map though.
Oh man...that would be GREAT!!!
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Audit Services Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:05:00 -
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Just a few downsides.
Primarily Choke Points. How many is not enough? Secondly Isk Sink. When industrialists lose ISK how much more ISK are you willing to pay for your combat shenanigans.
Add in the future effects of Planetary Infrastructure and you're on course to make the good Dr weep all over his beautiful graphs.
A decentralized market i.e not just Jita, IS something I do support however but that will only come about when assets and opportunities are spread more equitably throughout the Empires.
And some Ore isn't available in other empires regions too which the new loot tables will hopefully demonstrate when that kicks in.
This new patch will have a profound effect on the markets for the first month or two before things stabilise (if PI output is maintained) to a new equilibrium.
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Culmen
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.12 04:35:00 -
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So... Isolate the empires from one another. Makes perfect RP sense to create a lawless border zone inbetween them, simulating the fact that the empire wont want to escalate conflicts by sending in ships.
This will nerf Jita by making it only accessible to a quarter of highsec.
The only way to get mass amounts of cargo from one trade hub to another will be by Jump Freighter....
As a Rhea pilot, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY ENDORSE THIS IDEA!!
and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.04.12 06:16:00 -
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Personally, I'd be all for starting by shifting Jita and the surrounding systems to 0.4. Enough violence happens there to warrant it RP-wise.
Right... Fantasies aside, I've always liked the general idea of splitting the empires up a bit more.
My preference would be to do it with some sort of 'midsec'. Mainly because large swatches of lowsec/NPC nullsec right through the heart of highsec makes cyno logistics from one side to the other even easier than they already are. - Paknac Queltel
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.12 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: Crumplecorn Even within Empire activity is concentrated in Jita, and other places to a lesser degree. Why would people unwilling to even spread out within Empire do business across unsafe borders?
CRUMPLECORN! When did you come back?!
According to EVE-search, today. At least to the forums. Had a good break, I hope? ---
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.12 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 12/04/2010 07:12:23
Originally by: Atticus Fynch well I cant speak for all but I would just for the challenge.
Many would not. Forcing lowsec travel to move between the empires would probably work out well (aside from the delicious tears), but an island of hisec that doesn't force people to be there for one reason or another will simply have very few people I think, and a single split down the middle would simply see everyone 'stay at home'. Though that might at least improve some local markets.
Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Lance Fighter CRUMPLECORN! When did you come back?!
According to EVE-search, today. At least to the forums. Had a good break, I hope?
In the near future I expect we'll see black helicopters with EVE-search logos on the side around, so Chribba can track us all even if we're away. Indeed, it was more or less today I got back. I signed up on friday, but was too busy reading dev blogs and playing with the new DB dump to... actually play the game. Glad to see my sigs are still around :D. -
Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know! |
rubico1337
Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.04.12 07:17:00 -
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tbh i have always liked the idea of separating the empires with troughs of lowsec, maybe even some nullsec Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. |
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Ephemeron
Retribution Corp. Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.12 07:19:00 -
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In my honest opinion, the current design is best optimized for small playerbase.
However, now that EVE is well populated, a split high sec would definitely make things more interesting.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
I was looking at the map and the pattern is pretty predictable. Central high sec which fades outward into low sec and then a big patch of null sec.
I think it would be interesting to have two central high sec areas BUT have them divided by a big patch of null sec space.
You could also look better and see this isolated highsec region named Solitude. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
Zaknussem
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jathlor Edited by: Jathlor on 12/04/2010 00:42:37 Good idea...why not have each of the four empires have their own high sec island surrounded by low sec, and make certain materials/ore spawn only in one section. Would definitely decentralize Jita and make hauling a more lucrative profession. I wouldn't think it would have to be null sec seperating the areas though. It would sure take a lot of reworking the map though.
I wasn't around in the early days of EvE, but...aren't you pretty much describing how things were back then?
Yulai was once the center of the universe (the Hi-Sec part of it at least) but sec ratings of systems and stargate placements were changed to make the gameworld what it is today.
Also, the idea of another Hi-Sec area of space seperated by null-sec space will never work, unless the space in question is W-space...and I'm not even sure if that will solve the camping problem. |
Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: rubico1337 tbh i have always liked the idea of separating the empires with troughs of lowsec
This.
New systems added between the 4 empires such that you must go through low sec to travel between the empires would be great. _____________________
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:48:00 -
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I know, why not have the noobs just spawn in a specific nullsec system station and all null sec pilots can get a notification that a new victim has arrived. This way you'll have the exact thing you're advocating: easy targets with which to inflate your egos. But, instead of CCP having to re-write the map, they can just change a variable or two.
Ok, ok, yeah that's a bit unrealistic. Seriously, if hisec was split up the way you're advocating how are you going to fight your wars with your capital ships parked at gate camps to battle it out with the oncoming hordes of industrial ships invading your space? Oh wait, sorry, I'm being sarcastic again.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:20:00 -
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Well.. after WTZ, EVE got small.. really damn small.. Would be nice to think again about flying those 15jumps to Rens from Dodi or not.. especially if you can't use the AP.
In the earlier days, there was always a central hub. But the other hubs had a higher market share.. nowadays jita is just some jumps away.. all the world buys there..
I really wish Eve would be big again.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:27:00 -
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I still don't understand why they had to ruin Yulai.
But this idea is great. When you cross the border to another country you have to travel through lawless, pirate infested and extremely hostile territory, amirite? Yeah, this is a game and you guys are wannabe fail pirates, whining because... you fail.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:38:00 -
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I, too, support the idea of lowsec between all empires. And a better police system than old all-or-nothing-CONCORD.
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Liorah
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:40:00 -
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People will tend to congregate and create a market/trading hub. It's good for business, its good for customers. It's not good for hardware resources (which shouldn't be a concern of the playerbase), and it's not good for someone new to try to break into trading. Why the Jita hate? Someone undercut you?
If you put lowsec/nullsec between hisec empires, the majority of people will just stay in their little safe zone. Those that don't, and who explore out once or twice will get smacked and never do it again. The now smaller hisec areas would become more populated, and you'd still have lowsec pirates whining about lack of targets. Oh, maybe you'd have slightly larger markets in the other three empires, but the real trading would still be in Jita, or in whatever primary market hub was chosen.
If you want more people in lowsec so you can yarr, then change the "safety" curve from 0.5 to 0.4 to something other than a dip to negative infinity. Don't try to force carebears into lowsec, cause they won't go. They're carebears, not stupid (necessarily).
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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.04.12 13:07:00 -
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+1 support for low sec separating empire.
It's been proposed before, and usually the carebears show up en-mass and complain until the thread chokes to death under the mighty weight of the carebear stare.
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