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LonTas 5
Minmatar United Citizens of EVE
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Posted - 2010.04.03 01:17:00 -
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Whats the deal with these things? They're expensive, flimsy, dont provide high DPS, and cant fit armor plates or the speed dies. They go fast, granted, but once you web them they just kinda settle down and accept their fate as my autocannons rip them to shreds. I can tank the dps that 3 of them put out, and thats just in a crappy fit stabber! WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET THEM AND DECIDE TO BUG ME!!!!!!!! I SEE NOTHING OF VALUE IN WASTING 60 million isk to buy... a glorified missile Tell me again why people buy these? THERES THIS GREAT NEW-FANGLED CONTRAPTION CALLED A STASIS WEBIFIER. IT MAKES YOU GO VERY VERY SLOW. YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT BEFORE YOU BUY THAT INTERCEPTOR AND GO PVPING. |
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.03 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Whats the deal with these things? They're expensive, flimsy, dont provide high DPS, and cant fit armor plates or the speed dies. They go fast, granted, but once you web them they just kinda settle down and accept their fate as my autocannons rip them to shreds. I can tank the dps that 3 of them put out, and thats just in a crappy fit stabber! WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET THEM AND DECIDE TO BUG ME!!!!!!!! I SEE NOTHING OF VALUE IN WASTING 60 million isk to buy... a glorified missile Tell me again why people buy these?
Fail troll is fail. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? http://www.wi-alliance.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 |
Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.04.03 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Whats the deal with these things? They're expensive, flimsy, dont provide high DPS, and cant fit armor plates or the speed dies. They go fast, granted, but once you web them they just kinda settle down and accept their fate as my autocannons rip them to shreds. I can tank the dps that 3 of them put out, and thats just in a crappy fit stabber! WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET THEM AND DECIDE TO BUG ME!!!!!!!! I SEE NOTHING OF VALUE IN WASTING 60 million isk to buy... a glorified missile Tell me again why people buy these?
The real question is:
Why do stupid interceptor pilots get too close to larger ships?
A secondary question is:
How the hell are you managing to spend so much on interceptors?
Observation:
I've done pretty well in intereptors. Granted I've killed an awful lot of them as well, but I put that down to just being plain better, not a weakness in the ship class.
I love interceptors, they're awesome. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |
Trader20
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Posted - 2010.04.03 02:48:00 -
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u can use them for pos bashing but pve/lvl 5's are their main role
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.04.03 03:07:00 -
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Here's their true purpose as far as the forums go.
1. Buy one. Any one you want. Fit it however you want
2. Die to a dramiel
3. Come to the forums crying about said ship. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.04.03 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 u can use them for pos bashing but pve/lvl 5's are their main role
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.04.03 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 I can tank the dps that 3 of them put out, and thats just in a crappy fit stabber!
My claw wants to meet your stabber.
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2010.04.03 03:53:00 -
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Seriously. Have one of these things latch onto you and orbit at 28km going 5km/s+. Watch as your drones nibble at it... Meanwhile 20 of his buddies have jumped into system and you know they're en route to you. You'll get the idea real fast. In 0.0 they're even more prolific b/c there's no gate guns to get in the way.
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Cunane
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Posted - 2010.04.03 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cunane on 03/04/2010 11:00:52 Interceptors are good at intercepting.
*edit for hungover spelling fail
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Taja Calaren
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Posted - 2010.04.03 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cunane Interceptors are good at intercepting.
Who had thought it....
@OP: you're lucky so many interceptors attack your stabber and are stupid enough to get into your web/neut range... because thats probably the only thing a stabber CAN kill, frigs with stupid pilots
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.03 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zarnak Wulf Seriously. Have one of these things latch onto you and orbit at 28km going 5km/s+. Watch as your drones nibble at it... Meanwhile 20 of his buddies have jumped into system and you know they're en route to you. You'll get the idea real fast. In 0.0 they're even more prolific b/c there's no gate guns to get in the way.
Then you MWD away, and unless they got faster ships than your ship they cant do **** to you since that intie is only preventing you from warping out. If you want to tackle something you need to put a scram/web on him.
(Not that it matters since then your ship still cant hit the ceptor, hell it probably has a way larger chance to rip it apart at 28km than at 2km, only neuts will be a potential issue).
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Panch0Villa
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.03 21:10:00 -
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Seems to me OP is saying inties are fail because they can't kill an anti-frigate ship. Which would be beside the point...
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.04.03 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: dtyk on 03/04/2010 22:07:40
Originally by: LonTas 5 Whats the deal with these things? They're expensive, flimsy, dont provide high DPS, and cant fit armor plates or the speed dies. They go fast, granted, but once you web them they just kinda settle down and accept their fate as my autocannons rip them to shreds. I can tank the dps that 3 of them put out, and thats just in a crappy fit stabber! WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE GET THEM AND DECIDE TO BUG ME!!!!!!!! I SEE NOTHING OF VALUE IN WASTING 60 million isk to buy... a glorified missile Tell me again why people buy these?
Because their purpose is to tackle things, quickly. And they cost 15 mil, not 60. If you're within stasis web range and get killed because of it, you have failed. Badly.
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LonTas 5
Minmatar United Citizens of EVE
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Posted - 2010.04.03 22:23:00 -
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Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image? There's this new thing called a stasis webifier. You should really read about it before you buy that interceptor... |
Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.04.03 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed
Speed=Tank. Also called speedtank.
If you get webbed in an interceptor by a battlecruiser, then you are doing something seriously wrong.
Interceptors are the most fun to fly ships in eve for a mere 15mil for the hull. Sounds like a bargain to me.
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.04.03 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image?
If an interceptor gets webbed by a battlecruiser, the interceptor has ****ed up really bad, or has chosen to die. An interceptor can scramble the battlecruiser from OUTSIDE THE BC WEB RANGE.
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G
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Posted - 2010.04.03 23:54:00 -
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Inties are even better now that overloaded webs are worthless, the only defense a large ship has anymore is heavy neut. Any good inty pilot will murder Warrior II's before they even scratch the paint. ________
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Great Artista
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.04 00:26:00 -
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I have made 732m ISK in ransoms with crusader, can I help?
____ Rockets need a boost. CCP status: [_] Told. [x] Not told.
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Minerva Moore
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Posted - 2010.04.04 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Edited by: LonTas 5 on 03/04/2010 22:20:25 Thanks to the large reply, this now basically is a thread for people to debate interceptors. I still stand by my "glorified missile" statement. Low DPS, bad tank, all they do is go fast. So what do you think?
I think you're just trolling.
But if you're not, then you must have zero experience of pvp since you don't understand the concept of fast tackle. Obviously, there isn't much point with inties outside pvp.
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Word
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Posted - 2010.04.04 03:57:00 -
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Dramiel overloaded = 10 km/s, almost like the good old days.
But actually cheaper than what a Gisti A type MWD used to cost.
The Claw makes an awesome low sec salvager, and with cloak, not a bad blockage runner hauling low volume high value stuff.
I do all my Jita runs through Rancer, melted ribbons, BPCs, in a Claw + cloak. I want to be LUDICROUS |
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.04 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image?
If an interceptor gets webbed by a battlecruiser, the interceptor has ****ed up really bad, or has chosen to die. An interceptor can scramble the battlecruiser from OUTSIDE THE BC WEB RANGE.
It depends on the situation, but just putting a point on a target very often isnt enough. Sure he wont warp away, but he just mwds away while your intie is zooming around it, too scared to get closer. Not to mention that BCs can also easily rip it apart when it stays nicely at range where tracking isnt really a large problem.
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Segita
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.04 07:00:00 -
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If you are at interceptors, fitting MSE - good or bad thing?
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.04.04 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image?
If an interceptor gets webbed by a battlecruiser, the interceptor has ****ed up really bad, or has chosen to die. An interceptor can scramble the battlecruiser from OUTSIDE THE BC WEB RANGE.
It depends on the situation, but just putting a point on a target very often isnt enough. Sure he wont warp away, but he just mwds away while your intie is zooming around it, too scared to get closer. Not to mention that BCs can also easily rip it apart when it stays nicely at range where tracking isnt really a large problem.
Scram range > web range.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.04 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image?
If an interceptor gets webbed by a battlecruiser, the interceptor has ****ed up really bad, or has chosen to die. An interceptor can scramble the battlecruiser from OUTSIDE THE BC WEB RANGE.
It depends on the situation, but just putting a point on a target very often isnt enough. Sure he wont warp away, but he just mwds away while your intie is zooming around it, too scared to get closer. Not to mention that BCs can also easily rip it apart when it stays nicely at range where tracking isnt really a large problem.
Scram range > web range.
Overloaded they have the same range and with Inties 4 the scram has 800 more meters then the web. All they have to do is Overload their web/scram and they most likely have you. Especially without dual prop or if they are sporting Null/any Projectile ammo, really. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? http://www.wi-alliance.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 http://roadkill.igs-corp.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=32678 |
Ninja Joseph
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Posted - 2010.04.04 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: LonTas 5 Then if you load all your ints slots wit webbers and scrammers then u hav no tank in your in a pretty light frigate against a battlecruiser that now has you locked and webbed Ps whats the right format for a signature image?
If an interceptor gets webbed by a battlecruiser, the interceptor has ****ed up really bad, or has chosen to die. An interceptor can scramble the battlecruiser from OUTSIDE THE BC WEB RANGE.
It depends on the situation, but just putting a point on a target very often isnt enough. Sure he wont warp away, but he just mwds away while your intie is zooming around it, too scared to get closer. Not to mention that BCs can also easily rip it apart when it stays nicely at range where tracking isnt really a large problem.
Scram range > web range.
For as long as you can keep overheating, with t2 you have 500m extra range than the BCs web. If you are trying to scramble a BC in an inti, and he wants to web you.. he will eventually. Unless you are tackling for a gang or know that the BC pilot is underskilled, there is no point. |
Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.04 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 I still stand by my "glorified missile" statement.
So basically, you agree that you have no idea what they're for.
Quote: Low DPS
Irrelevant.
Quote: bad tank
Irrelevant.
Quote: all they do is go fast
Incorrect, and also one of the key points of the ship. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2010.04.04 12:29:00 -
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I smell a troll, but....
1. They all have that lovely 80% reduction to the cap cost of propulsion jamming mods. This makes them pretty much the only class of ship that can run an MWD and a warp disruptor forever (depending on weapon use, other modules, etc.) and still go really fast while doing it.
2. They all also have a lovely 15% reduction per level to the signature radius penalty for MWDs. So in addition to being really fast and able to point targets from long range forever while going really fast, they're also really hard to hit with anything bigger than frigate-class weapons as long as they don't stop or reduce their radial velocity.
3. Half of them get a 50% damage bonus to their primary weapon system. 50%. That's huge. There's a reason why anyone who wants to fly an Enyo flies a Taranis instead.
4. The other half get a 5% bonus to disruptor/scrambler range per level. At level IV, that's a base 28.8km range on a T2 disruptor before any other common bonuses (overheating, gang bonuses, etc.). That's nothing to sneeze at.
Having said all of that, they're not the ZOMGWTF solo-pwnmobiles that Dramiels, but I still think that they're better pure tacklers than a Dramiel. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
LonTas 5
Minmatar United Citizens of EVE
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Posted - 2010.04.04 16:48:00 -
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Low DPS and bad tank arent irrelavent, the taanks and damage output are what make a ship. If you get one- volleyed in your ship and it would take you an hour to kill aa destroyer, is taht useful? Plus, destroyers can fit scrammers, burners, anad other things that can just ruin an interceptor pilot's day... There's this new thing called a stasis webifier. You should really read about it before you buy that interceptor... |
Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2010.04.04 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 Low DPS and bad tank arent irrelavent, the taanks and damage output are what make a ship. If you get one- volleyed in your ship and it would take you an hour to kill aa destroyer, is taht useful? Plus, destroyers can fit scrammers, burners, anad other things that can just ruin an interceptor pilot's day...
<facepalm>
Besides, have you even ever undocked from a station?
Or heard of RANGE or TRACKING?
Or considered the possibility of the importance of tackling?
Or, come across a Sader, Ranis or Claw?
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Kirzath
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.04.04 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: LonTas 5 If you get one- volleyed in your ship and it would take you an hour to kill aa destroyer, is taht useful? Plus, destroyers can fit scrammers, burners, anad other things that can just ruin an interceptor pilot's day...
150 to 300 DPS is bad for a frigate that goes over 5km/s? And if you get volleyed in an interceptor, then you deserve the lossmail for being such a **** pilot.
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