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Markahn Vaedris
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Posted - 2010.03.23 13:09:00 -
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I'm interested in mining low sec in my hulk and was wondering if anyone had any tips. How to fit the Hulk for max protection and what I'm likely to encounter?
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.03.23 13:17:00 -
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Just wondering, "Why?" Almost every hisec ore is worth more than the lowsec ores and if you loose one Hulk, that is your profits for a day or two+. If you need a specific mineral, personally, I would mine Scord or Veld and then buy the mineral I needed with the profits from the hisec mining.
If you are dead set on mining in lowsec, almost any tank you fit to a Hulk can be one or two shotted. Very few people mine in lowsec, if at all. -----------------------------------
Originally by: Kali Zero Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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Markahn Vaedris
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Posted - 2010.03.23 13:20:00 -
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How is it possible that lo sec minerals are less profitable? If you look on the market, Zydrine and Morphite are way more expensive than Isogen or Megacyte.
But thanks for your reply.
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.03.23 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Markahn Vaedris How is it possible that lo sec minerals are less profitable? If you look on the market, Zydrine and Morphite are way more expensive than Isogen or Megacyte.
But thanks for your reply.
Zyd can be found a little bit in lowsec ore, but Morph is NULL sec only (as is megacyte). If you have a supply of Gneiss or Dark Ochre rocks, then those are valuable. Although I am not sure if they can be found in lowsec. Jaspet, Hemo and Hedbrg are 46, 51 and 68 ISK per m3 atm. Where as Scord, Plag and Veld are 104, 96, 84 ISK per m3.
Still do not believe me: Here is an ore profitability chart for you. (Make sure you update the prices before you look at the profits for accurate results. I am using The Forge prices.)
But, what do I know... I have only been mining on my indusrty alt since early 2006... -----------------------------------
Originally by: Kali Zero Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.03.23 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Markahn Vaedris How is it possible that lo sec minerals are less profitable? If you look on the market, Zydrine and Morphite are way more expensive than Isogen or Megacyte.
But thanks for your reply.
Actually, that guy was 100% correct, so you should probably can the attitude and figure out what you're missing. I don't even mine and I know where you're going wrong (as will pretty much everyone else). --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
Markahn Vaedris
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Posted - 2010.03.23 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: Markahn Vaedris on 23/03/2010 16:10:29 I thank the both of you for your explanations. I appreciate your replies. I now understand.
FYI SurrenderMonkey there is no need for me to can anything as my question contained no attitude. It was a simply query. The problem about text messages is that inflection is not transmitted. So, perhaps before assuiming attitude, neutrality ought to be your first position.
Once again thank you both.
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Whacky Iraqi
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Posted - 2010.03.23 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Markahn Vaedris I'm interested in mining low sec in my hulk and was wondering if anyone had any tips. How to fit the Hulk for max protection and what I'm likely to encounter?
It is indeed a great idea and very profitable. If you want to fleet up for bonuses just head down to raravath for some great ores and profit. See you in the belts!
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Halada
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.23 22:47:00 -
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I would strongly advise against mining solo in low-sec. You will die for sure, and the time it takes to replace the losses will not be worth the effort and stress. THE COMPLETE MINER'S GUIDE - VERSION 3.0 EXTENDED EDITION |
Asarah
First Star To The Right
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Posted - 2010.03.23 23:37:00 -
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It's not entirely an exercise in futility, at least not if you have a lot of low sec experience and can concentrate on local and directional while you work, instead of just coma mining like most high secers.... there's virtually no competiton for the rocks so you'll be pleasantly suprised by the planet sized scord roids you have to munch on every day, and if you can find yourself a nice secluded (preferably dead end) system in deep low sec you can have a fair expectation of relative safety. Also low sec gravis are your friend, they regularly spawn Gneiss, Ochre and better.
Did I mention it's a hell of a lot more fun when you spend the whole time biting your nails?
Your biggest issue would be logistics, as unless you are in a place where large quantities of low end mins are moved in the low sec market on a regular basis, you're going to need to be able to ship large volumes of cheap mins back to a hub.
I used to mine for a living in a nice little forgotten corner of Aridia and made a fair bit doing it but it's never gonna be anything above and beyond high sec mining and with the advent of wormholes, if you have a couple hundred to drop on a tower and refinery you might as well be mining ABC!
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Greygal
Gallente Sephray Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:13:00 -
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Should you decide to go forth and solo mine in losec, I suggest using a Covetor. Much cheaper and fully insurable. It is a bit less efficient than a Hulk, but should you get ganked, your losses are relatively minimal and easily recovered.
I also suggest scanning around hisec for grav sites. They are fairly common and some of them have awesome roids to munch :)
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.03.24 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 24/03/2010 00:22:43 Two things.
1. Op probably wants untouched roids instead of the ones in hi sec that get vaporized 2 seconds after appearing.
2. In before the, "I'll guard you tell me where you will be" guys.Edit: too late. |
Faia Arashi
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Posted - 2010.03.24 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Markahn Vaedris I'm interested in mining low sec in my hulk and was wondering if anyone had any tips. How to fit the Hulk for max protection and what I'm likely to encounter?
I forget whether it was 0.4 or lower, but we encountered rather large rats, but I would be worried more about other players.
My alt is still working on the Orca, but at present with a Hulk and an Ity 5 I am pulling about 7 mil per hour in a 0.6 system with stations where I have 8.0+ standing (for the non-skill related portion of refining efficiency). I guestimate (at current local prices) about 80 minutes per day to buy a plex per month, and that is with the Hulk being able to remain in the belt that entire time.
Unless you need specific minerals for manufacturing (and you can buy them with profits from what you *are* mining) there is considerable risk to not a great profit for *solo* mining low-sec. On the other hand, if you can join a corp that runs mining ops with an Orca, you can generally (depending on skills) increase your Hulk yield by 55%. The 120k m3 capacity of a naked Orca (can only be improved by skills and mods) is also handy.
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Ikonia
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Posted - 2010.03.24 09:19:00 -
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Well, tbh, LowSec Mining is a bad idea. If you dont know what you do, it is just waste of time and material.
If you need those low/0Sec ores, i guess that is why u asking here, there are simple ways to do so.
If you need, and do NOT want to mine in LowSec: 1.) Go and scout Drone Nests. The materials of them contain the stuff you need. 2.) There are good missions in L4 with lots of drones.The materials of them contain the stuff you need. 3.) There are special missions with even 100s of drones. Example? Mandoo System, Concorde Mission. Not sure if L4, think it is L5. get some friends and offer them to help at this mission. Offer it to other persons too. Only thing you want as price is the loot of the drones. Or simply scout the mission site and fly in. Not many are taking the stuff from the drones.
If you want to mine in LowSec: 1.) Dont take the belts. Scout hidden sites. Prepare a safespot far out of being tracked. Check local. If others come in, dont wait, but warp. Place container at far out safe spot. Drop the ore there. 2.) Get support by having a second char. I recommend to use captial ships. Gankers in most situation cant handle a dreadnought and a rorqual, since they fly bareley bigger things than cheap ships. 3.) Dont mine in systgems with heavy traffic. Especially when wars are going on in systems around or when it is a system on the route to LowSec or a trade route. 4.) Place a station in the system, it can protect you.
If you still want to mine in lowsec, but cant use the options above: 1.) Scouting. Explore for gravimetric sites. 2.) Scouting. Wormholes class 1-3 are quite nice for mining. 3.) Mining missions in 0.5 can also sometimes bring the materials you are looking for, if the agent is high enough in quality and your standing is outstanding high. 4.) Go join mining corps and fly in fleets to sites.
Hope that helped. Cheers, Iko
--- Honker:"Damn! Ok, I'll go and loot my wife now..." --- HighSec Gankers? Well, every world has its psychpaths. |
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