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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ran Khanon on 21/03/2010 01:48:05 Edited by: Ran Khanon on 21/03/2010 01:36:53
This idea popped up during lengthy discussions in the C&P channel about:
A: How thieves and ninja's should have their own, optimized ship class
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B: How parrots and specifically kakapo's are so very cool but sadly not game related
We figured to solve both problems in one go and hereby suggest the "Parrot" a battlecruiser derived ship class with optimizations for the not so 'honest' professions in EVE online.
Bonus and ability wise there are a lot of options. Here are a few picks:
- Can enter cans up to 10km - Codebreakers also work on secured containers - Can tractor anyone's wrecks - Can smuggle any booster, drug or other illegal cargo. - Can agro aggressive and passive set drones with a feint 'shag-attack'
Ofcourse there should be negatives to instil this with some balance. So far we came up with Parrots needing a specific fuel such as 'crackers' which would require a new production branch; new pos modules, skills, certain primary components, etc., from which industrial players could profit and with that making it a win-win addition across the board.
Please tell us what you think, ofcourse we are open for additional suggestions.
Fairly quick photoshop sketch of what a "Parrot" could look like:
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Colonel Evans
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:52:00 -
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+1 interwebz to you sir.
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mundus123
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:04:00 -
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That sounds a little on the much side and making your job too easy. So my suggestion is keep it, but put it on a fast frig hull instead of a bc with a paperbag for a tank.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:25:00 -
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this is as broken as the request from mission runners to have auto looting and tractor pulling bubbles.
thumbs down.
especially the tractor pulling and aggro part are just stupid. same for opening cans from 10k. mission item stealing much?
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Izztyrr Maemtor
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:38:00 -
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Great idea, can't wait to get one of these.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Companion Qube
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever this is as broken as the request from mission runners to have auto looting and tractor pulling bubbles.
thumbs down.
especially the tractor pulling and aggro part are just stupid. same for opening cans from 10k. mission item stealing much?
u mad?
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Companion Qube
Originally by: darius mclever this is as broken as the request from mission runners to have auto looting and tractor pulling bubbles.
thumbs down.
especially the tractor pulling and aggro part are just stupid. same for opening cans from 10k. mission item stealing much?
u mad?
actually no. ninjas never visit my missions, but it sounds a bit like "spoon feed me mission runner kills". ninjas should work for their kills aswell no?
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Slade Hoo
Amarr Corpse Collection Point
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:10:00 -
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+1 for awesome picture! ------ Make Lowsec useful! Vote in the CSM-Forum! |
KaiserSoze434
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:20:00 -
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This idea is stupid. I ninja and this is just as bad as all of the lame "make things easier" carebear posts. The drone thing in particular is a stupid ass plea for an "iwin" every bit as pathetic as the anti-cloaker's ideas. There is a kernel of usefulness here though. The peanut in the turd if you will.
1. Don't make a ship class that can tractor anyone's wrecks and cans. Make it so that anyone can do this out of the box. 2. T2 codebreakers that can break into cans, not a ship. Also, t2 containers resistant to hacking. 3. Enhanced smuggling should be added to blockade runners.
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kano donn
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:26:00 -
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agreed, bad idea. makes it too easy and no balance. to much work to develop.
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Tamahra
Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch TriMark Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.21 07:25:00 -
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doesnt quite fit with the lore to have a parrot head attached to a space ship.
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Finn McCaan
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Posted - 2010.03.21 08:41:00 -
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yes lets have a specialised ninja looter ship, probably not as Over Powered as what your describing - but lets not allow it to join fleets. If you can ninja away salvage and cargo, and make it to safety -on your own- you deserve the reward.
the idea of code brakers working on secure containers is not to bad - if its difficult (low incidence of sucsess) and the container only remains unlocked for a short period of time perhapse?
rather than being able to enter cans at 10 km (thats just a tad unballanceing - wheres the fun in the last ditch race to a can if the ninja can jump into it as 4 times the range )some form of scanner perhapse that allows you to peek.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.21 10:08:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies so far. I appreciate the criticism as well.
The initial list is perhaps a ... *coughs* ... slight bit unbalanced.
I do agree that Parrots should be more flimsy and that opening containers at larger ranges should not be possible.
I'm going to take this back to C&P channel were we shall discuss the matter further.
OP updated.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.03.21 14:33:00 -
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A Destroyer/Cruiser Class Exploration Specialized Ship? IT MUST BE A PARROT
250% Range Bonus to Salvage Modules* 50% Activation Time Increase for Salvage Modules* 15% Bonus chance of salvage retrieval
Destroyer/Racial Cruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to cargo capacity per level 7.5% bonus to Speed/Capacitor/Agility/Activation Time for Salvage Modules
Oh wait, now this sounds stupid.
Nevermind
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.21 15:44:00 -
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This is a great idea. High sec griefers have it way too hard at the moment. This innovative craft should allow even more people to post their wonderful stories of tears and courageous lulz for our entertainment.
It should have the ability to fit a special mod that automatically posts local and private chatlogs to the forums with a generic "Look at these tears omg I'm really affecting this persons play experience!!!!1111" comment whenever a miner or mission runner replies to your goading. The drawback would be that it posts these regardless of the presence of any genuine upset.
All it needs is a lower tier ship noobs can fly right away. You could call it the budgie. Signature removed, ♥ Parrots, but they aren't EVE Online sigs. Zymurgist |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.21 16:02:00 -
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Thank you Boomershoot and Lady Spank for your great suggestions. I shall add them to the OP right away. Help us to make parrots game related today! |
Sir Carnage
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Posted - 2010.03.23 17:27:00 -
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We are in need of a second destroyer class ship. I say we name them after the most oft "not eve related" sigs, starting with the Kakapo.
Quote: A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams
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trenny jr
Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: trenny jr on 24/03/2010 11:35:08 supported but only if it cant fit weapons! Signature removed not EVE related - Adida [00:18:49] Lady Spank > /emote squiggles
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Winters Chill
Amarr Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.03.24 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon
- Auto-forum reply module: "It should have the ability to fit a special mod that automatically posts local and private chatlogs to the forums with a generic "Look at these tears omg I'm really affecting this persons play experience!!!!1111" comment whenever a miner or mission runner replies to your goading. The drawback would be that it posts these regardless of the presence of any genuine upset."
Thats the best bit.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.24 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Carnage Edited by: Sir Carnage on 23/03/2010 19:29:39 We are in need of a second destroyer class ship. I say we name them after the most oft "not eve related" sigs, starting with the Kakapo.
also, parrots, now with eve related content.
Thank you, sir.
This is a great impression of how great a "Parrot" would look while docked in station. You can see that it got quite dizzy from a good spinning session and now has to deal with the vertigo attack induced by typical Gallente station architecture. I feel for this particular "Parrot"; as a sufferer from vertigo myself I never dock at Gallente stations. (Also my bacteriophobia prevents me from docking at Minmatar stations but that is beside the point). Help us to make parrots game related today! |
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Free Will Sacrifice
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Posted - 2010.03.24 12:41:00 -
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this whole thread, the op AND the provided links made me laugh long time, er thankyou sir!
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Aznwithbeard
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Posted - 2010.03.24 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 24/03/2010 14:28:28 You guys serious? Lets make ninjaing easier? Seriously? All you do is scan random ships down and start salvaging. how much easier wcould it get? u flip cans, they blow you up, u kill them in pvp ship.
If anything, i think CCP should make salvaging Criminal worthy.
And before "u mad? tearz, blah blah", no, im not. You guys are as weak as the mission runners asking for drone salvagers.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.24 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 24/03/2010 14:28:28 You guys serious? Lets make ninjaing easier? Seriously? All you do is scan random ships down and start salvaging. how much easier wcould it get? u flip cans, they blow you up, u kill them in pvp ship.
If anything, i think CCP should make salvaging Criminal worthy.
And before "u mad? tearz, blah blah", no, im not. You guys are as weak as the mission runners asking for drone salvagers.
Confirming I am a mission runner who doesn't ask for done salvagers but for a parrot shaped ninja-utility ship. And yes. We are dead serious ... because parrots deserve it. Help us to make parrots game related today! |
Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.03.25 10:13:00 -
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And what is wrong with just a dedicated salvager? That's appease missioners and ninjaers alike.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.25 22:54:00 -
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I lol @ the pic. But seriously, one really stupid ****ing idea.
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Krennel Darius
Caldari Nova Security Systems
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Posted - 2010.03.26 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever this is as broken as the request from mission runners to have auto looting and tractor pulling bubbles.
thumbs down.
especially the tractor pulling and aggro part are just stupid. same for opening cans from 10k. mission item stealing much?
Man, tough crowd on the humor department today.
+1 to the OP, this is about as good as the 'What to do with prostitutes' thread in EVE General Discussion.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Reverse Psychology.
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Posted - 2010.04.05 06:47:00 -
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bumping this due to high level of importance!
Signature removed. It needs to be EVE related. Zymurgist Pirates have Parrots therefor its Eve related. |
Villian
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Posted - 2010.04.05 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Carnage Edited by: Sir Carnage on 23/03/2010 19:29:39 We are in need of a second destroyer class ship. I say we name them after the most oft "not eve related" sigs, starting with the Kakapo.
also, parrots, now with eve related content. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/eve_parrot.jpg
Updated the image to a URL - Adida
Squawking in Stations
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.05 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Villian
Originally by: Sir Carnage Edited by: Sir Carnage on 23/03/2010 19:29:39 We are in need of a second destroyer class ship. I say we name them after the most oft "not eve related" sigs, starting with the Kakapo.
also, parrots, now with eve related content. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/eve_parrot.jpg
Updated the image to a URL - Adida
Squawking in Stations
This deserves some trill.
Also, my parrot/dominix hybrid is very related to eve. ----
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.04.05 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bongo Debbie
Originally by: Villian
Originally by: Sir Carnage Edited by: Sir Carnage on 23/03/2010 19:29:39 We are in need of a second destroyer class ship. I say we name them after the most oft "not eve related" sigs, starting with the Kakapo.
also, parrots, now with eve related content. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/eve_parrot.jpg
Updated the image to a URL - Adida
Squawking in Stations
This deserves some trill.
Also, my parrot/dominix hybrid is very related to eve.
I can't see how that signature could be anymore game related, in fact. Apart from the icons and the Dominix it even features the name of a well known EVE player. My hat off to you, miss Bongo! Help us to make parrots game related today! |
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