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nercius
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Posted - 2010.03.19 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: nercius on 19/03/2010 15:01:50 I was on an alliance outing to take down a russian tower near our borders, their pets were tipped off, and way to quickly. we retreated to a deathstar we placed within the same system, unfortunately landorcan warped to the edge of our pos, and stayed under the pretences it was a small group, I however had a bm on edge aswell, but i went inside the shields, i made sure even on the bubble retraction and expansion that the model of my thanatos was fully incompased within the shields. 75 pets warped to pos and killed landorcan....verry unfortunate and unintended, however, this is where the question comes into play, the group of 75 pple rotated around the shields to my position 50km off, killed the warp scrammers....broke into 3 teams......3-5 interceptors as a group began diving...and i mean if in relation to water, piercing the shield and ramming me and being ejected, team 2 retained its position, team 3 made of a few bc's and more ceptors, warped in from behind the bubble and 2 of the 7, pierced the shields and rammed me, rotating me 180 degrees and ejecting me then out of the shields. now i came to rest only 500 meters outside the shields, however the model was outside the shields fuly where i then came under attack. regardless of scrams i was able to rotate 180 degrees and return 60% into the shields, where most of my ship was once again incompased, however their attacks continued uninterrupted, where i then died. where i was supposed to be safe and the deagression and delock was sposed to be failed to kick in....my wreckage was also 60% inside the shields, neither side could destroy it. there were 20 of our alliance sitting and watching and taking screenshots, this has gone to petition and they assure me pos bowling cant happen and as they dont accept proof of pictures, continue to deny me and refuse reimbursement for 3 weeks now.they also refuse to escalate me to a dev for a possible exploitation.now there are 2 issues here, one being the fact that i was pos bowled and 20 pple watched, and the fact i returned into the shields and was not disengaged.
Furthermore i know half of the pple im asking will either ripp on me or there of twist what this post was for, and i say now, yes i have an inappropriate, or odd ship fit, so if u are the type to look at killmails, ill save you the trouble....drone controll units, sensor boosters warp scramms webbifyers drone link augmentors, i fit for station camping, i try to be the equivalent of station guns, its my form of entertainment...and i had no intention of being killed this day, and had i not been exploited, it would not have been an issue. i wish to now open this as a questionair and a petition to ccp, is the system that flawless that pos bowling is guaranteed to not happen, is it appropriate i lost my ship to pos bowling and the fact i re-entered the shields only to still be destroyed?
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.03.19 15:24:00 -
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my eyes!
please |
Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2010.03.19 15:26:00 -
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They did a good job. |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.19 15:41:00 -
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Fixing:
I was on an alliance outing to take down a Russian tower near our borders. Their pets were somehow tipped off really fast. We retreated to a deathstar we placed within the same system their tower was in, unfortunately some guy warped to the edge of our POS force field. He stayed there under the pretense that it was a small group. Despite having a bookmark that would take me to just the edge of the force field, I instead fully enveloped my Thanatos within the force field, but staying just near the edge. Suddenly, 75 pets warped to POS and killed that guy (he was clearly a moron,) which to me was unfortunate.
Now, listen, as this is where my question comes into play. A group of 75 people orbited the force field about 50km off, killed the scram batteries and then broke into three teams. The first team, which consisted of 3-5 interceptors made a really cool formation and divebombed the POS force field which resulted in them breaking into the force field and bumping me out. The next team held position, and the third team which consisted of a few battlecruisers and interceptors warped in from behind the force field. Two of the guys managed to pierce the force field and again I was bumped, this time rotating me 180 degrees and kicking me out of the force field completely.
Now I was 500m outside of the force field but I instantly was under attack. I started approaching the force field, and as I appeared to be entering the force field the attacks continued. Finally, I died. Now, here's the kicker: My wreck was inside the force field. Both alliances took thousands of screenshots and submitted them via petitions. CCP told me like, 50 times that they won't accept screenshots as evidence, and they continue to deny it is their fault and have refused reimbursement for 3 weeks now. They won't even escalate my petition! Now, there are two clear issues: the first being that I was "bowled" out of the force field, and the second that I was appearing to be inside the force field but the attacks continued.
I am a silly poopoo who lost a lolfit carrier.
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Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.03.19 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: nercius is it appropriate i lost my ship to pos bowling and the fact i re-entered the shields only to still be destroyed?
Yes+
Note: I edited out the irrelevant parts of the post for easier viewing. |
Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 19/03/2010 18:01:21 If they didn't have the shield password then you should re-write the petition to emphasize this. It's considered an exploit.
If they did have the password (which it sounds like they didn't by your description of events) then it is allowed.
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Triple Entendre
Emergence Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:02:00 -
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HOLY CHEST HIGH WALL OF TEXT, BATMAN!
Also, ibt Boomer saying it! |
Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:04:00 -
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boring/no one cares/making a thread about it will change nothing |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:09:00 -
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You tried to exploit a POS shield by sticking your nose out and were destroyed. You should have known of the risk before trying the maneuver. Case closed.
Had you been at 0 m on the tower and got knocked out, then you might get some support.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:12:00 -
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WOAHHH! What a wall of text. NO WAY. |
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NEMESIS SIN
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: NEMESIS SIN on 19/03/2010 18:15:46 Does calling them "pets" make you feel better about how they made you drop the soap? |
Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander You tried to exploit a POS shield by sticking your nose out and were destroyed. You should have known of the risk before trying the maneuver. Case closed.
Had you been at 0 m on the tower and got knocked out, then you might get some support.
Pretty sure the interceptors did that for him. I read the wall of text. |
Strafee
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:20:00 -
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CCP's reinbursment policy is a joke within itself. I lost a hulk the other week because I warped to the grav site, saw rats, attempted to warp out, but got D/C'd, i logged back in and i was sitting in high sec. Apparently, rats can pod now, but I had no killmail for the pod. Petition, got my implants back, but not my hulk. They stated that because they could not find anything in their logs about my D/C, they couldn't reinburse me.
Kind of dumb if you ask me that I pay real money to play this game, and they cant throw me some in game money, even a partial reinbursement. It's stupid how non leinent they are about reinbursing. So, in short, I lost 200mil for no reason other than CCP ****ed me. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.19 18:42:00 -
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Long story short
POS bowling is an exploit and is a bannable offense.
This was made bannable back during revlations when the drone regions just opened up. I would say about 3 months after. But there was an article about it, dev posts and what not.
But you need evidence that they did this. either fraps or xfire vid. |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.19 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Long story short
POS bowling is an exploit and is a bannable offense.
This was made bannable back during revlations when the drone regions just opened up. I would say about 3 months after. But there was an article about it, dev posts and what not.
But you need evidence that they did this. either fraps or xfire vid.
I don't believe it is bowling when your ship is partially sticking out of the bubble.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.19 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: AdmiralJohn on 19/03/2010 22:04:02
Originally by: nercius where i then died. where i was supposed to be safe
Hey, handy Eve tip: You're only safe when spinning in station.
Mods, please lock this thread in case stupid becomes contagious.
Edit: why is everything I type in italics? |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.19 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 19/03/2010 22:37:53
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
I don't believe it is bowling when your ship is partially sticking out of the bubble.
I am by no means defending the OP and the situation. I have even less to go on then does CCP, but he said that when he warped into the POS he was fully inside the POS.
He said he was bumped out by 3 interceptors to a point where his tail was 500m out of the bubbble. He then was able to turn 180 degs and get his ship back into the shields, but the visuals of his tail was sticking out of the bubble. That is where he lost his ship.
So; I will have to agree with Kuars' post below on this one.
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 19/03/2010 18:01:21 If they didn't have the shield password then you should re-write the petition to emphasize this. It's considered an exploit.
If they did have the password (which it sounds like they didn't by your description of events) then it is allowed.
\ Originally by: AdmiralJohn
Hey, handy Eve tip: You're only safe when spinning in station.
Mods, please lock this thread in case stupid becomes contagious.
Edit: why is everything I type in italics?
That happend to me yesterday. Pretty wierd. I think it has something to do with messing up the originals quote and then fixing them agai. As you can now see when I quote you there is no longer any italics. Even more wierd.
Slade
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nercius
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Posted - 2010.03.22 14:45:00 -
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for those of you that are being appropriate and helpfull and trying to take this somewhat serious i appreciate it, and those hellbent on trying to make others look like fools, grats, you really show us all how mature you can be.
second, to clarify, or restate, my ship model never had any part outside the shields, as i said the ship model was completely inside the shields, even for the retraction and explansion of normal shield operations.
also, the pos was just put up and we only got the password to the shields by private convo from the owner, whom is one of our main alliance members, and is guaranteed trustworthy.
furthermore, 20 people and I have pictures upon my destruction of my ship trying to return inside the shields, but then there of 60% in, destroyed, yet the wreckage unable to be locked or destroyed, this is a 2 for 1 exploit and bug.
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