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EthanPow
Caldari Drakeal Inc. Drakeal Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.13 06:32:00 -
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I wanted to throw something out there that harder... the rewards are worth it and the its worst than sleepers. the unknown Faction.
The unknowns are a Faction in mystery. Jovians have been hunting them for ages. their goals have been the complete elimination of Jovians(in order to take control of the galaxy of new Eden). They are not stupid. they employ tactics normal npcs will not do.
-They will try to pod you. -They will have more random damage ratios. -They bring in friends if you do (alts/allies will make it harder) -They use probe lanuchers -They will use Titan doomsday device -They have no bounties -Their resistances are random -they have no salvage -they have no tags -they have no loot -they come to you, even at stations with Jovian patrols -they attack poses... hard
Not only that in Jovian space, you have limited access to their stations, Jumpclones will be impossible yet if you want to give up theres a perm exit wormhole to somewere in new eden in highsec or lowsec. to taunt you... though no one will be able to find you... locator agents/API will get word your in some other place. though you need 10.00 Jove standings you will lose all your standing for taking this Exit. and Unknown always hate you. there is no diplomacy or Ransom... they play to win, the true NBSI policy. and Jovains have no medical Bays that are public or able to access...
not only you have the unknown and the 10.00 standings to worry about. how will you fight a foe so hard.... with the best fits in capital ships. Missions that Jovians give you will have you using more than your gunnery, missile, electrionic or drone skills... there will be room for logistical to keep Jove Battleships and Capitals alive when they are trying to attack form being jammed, neuted, webbed and anything that keeps them form operating. its your job to take it to a new level. missions are hard to beat.. you don't get much form them... and it can require you to keep yourself operating your pos and mining in capital ships (yes they will assault you often... ) but you still need to get there... thats when a Jove Agent will give you a message to goto a system (normally lowsec) to a wormhole of special nature... only you can scan and access.. any size ship can use this portal... yes titans and SuperCarriers as well. coming prepared is always a good option. though you only have one chance... and if you miss it you will lose some standings making you to work up standings again with Jovains to get chance for a message. when I mean standings... I mean PERSONAL standings. you can't leech it easy and once you got it... its hard. those that get a chance have to work alone in the terms of doing missions.
so HIGHEST RISK, HIGHEST REWARDS, HARDEST TO ACCESS, one chance to gain the rewards... lose your ships... lose your pod... you back were you started.
so tell me I am insane... because anyone that does this has to be the most epic and Ready to take on the next level of missions. its possible if your able to get the best of the best fits and best skills and in large vessels... no battleship will be able to handle the Stress and immune to electionical warfare might be useful to survive.
What ever you do, DO NOT, for love of god, do not use that smartbomb |
Some Dewd
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Posted - 2010.03.13 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: EthanPow
missions are hard to beat.. you don't get much form them... so HIGHEST RISK, HIGHEST REWARDS, HARDEST TO ACCESS,
so you dont get much from missions but you get a alot..... interesting
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RootEmerger
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Posted - 2010.03.13 14:00:00 -
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Let me see... you are proposing a space reserved to missioning in titan and supercarriers? You forgot again your meds today, aint you?
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Cassidy Solo
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Posted - 2010.03.13 14:06:00 -
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Quote: The upsides -Titans and Supercarriers get speed bonuses though the roof in Jove space -Titans and supercarriers able to use all Jove gates to move around (like a normal ship) but unable to use jump drives or jump bridges or clone vat bays. like wormhole space. -your able to place POSes for yourself... make it possible to rebuild as long your able to (mining becomes a fight for survival in a super cap)
First off, I'm going to assume you've never even seen a capital or super-capital ship. If you have, or even claim that you fly one, I'm going to assume that it would be one of those 9.5m SP "Titan" pilots, who can sit in one but can't do a damn thing with it.
Second off, that's an upside? Seriously? Just a chance to see your Ragnarok or Erebus fly around faster? In exchange for busting your ass and spending countless weeks risking everything?
- No Salvage - No Loot - No Tags - No Bounties
What am I missing here? I fail to see why anyone would even take this idea seriously.
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Valandril
Caldari Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2010.03.13 14:33:00 -
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1 jove frigate can solo half of current eve, so no.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.03.13 15:02:00 -
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Silly idea to go against the race that provides you with the tech to actually fly your ship. They'd just hack into your pod, make it self-destruct and not send the clone data off. --------
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Lord Zekk
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 16:12:00 -
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Go to 0.0 you will get that stuff ----------------------------------------
We are recruiting. Visit us at http://www.22ndbrdu.com |
Cassidy Solo
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Posted - 2010.03.13 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar Silly idea to go against the race that provides you with the tech to actually fly your ship. They'd just hack into your pod, make it self-destruct and not send the clone data off.
His suggestion wasn't about going against the Jovians, his suggestion was about have a new, more sinister enemy that is fighting the Jovians, and we, as Pod Pilots, are asked to assist the Jovians in their fight. This does not enhance the viability or the interest in his idea, I'm just clarifying what his suggestion was. The idea of a high-risk, no reward, go run missions in my super-capitals, gotta mine 22/7 (The other two hours are to run missions in my Ragnarok!) in order to pay for being here, etc, line of missions or area of space is absurd. No one is going to want to get into such a hassle-filled situation without a reason. Even then, making the space only available to capital pilots is silly. There are not that many good capital and super-capital pilots in the game, in a relative sense, and the ones we have, are almost never cross-trained to allow mining and setting up/running POSes, etc. With the way it is described, you are stuck in hostile space as a solo player, in a capital. That is not how capitals are supposed to work, and any good POS or mining operation is going to need more than one person to run it. Again, the idea is inherently flawed, and utterly absurd.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2010.03.13 20:41:00 -
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Confirming that I am already doing what the OP suggested.
Super hard enemies, often best fit, they will pod you, bring friends, DD you, assault your POS, and killing them brings you no bounties and often little in return.
PM ME FOR SECRET LOCATIONS
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Uskos
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Posted - 2010.03.13 21:18:00 -
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Change you're dealer dude cause you're current one must be giving you some nasty **** instead of the mary jane you want.
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Sefredius Mengsk
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Posted - 2010.03.14 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: EthanPow walloftext
plain stupid ideas
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EthanPow
Caldari Drakeal Inc. Drakeal Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.16 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Some Dewd
Originally by: EthanPow
missions are hard to beat.. you don't get much form them... so HIGHEST RISK, HIGHEST REWARDS, HARDEST TO ACCESS,
so you dont get much from missions but you get a alot..... interesting
what I ment is that you get the best big reward vs small constant rewards
Originally by: RootEmerger Let me see... you are proposing a space reserved to missioning in titan and supercarriers? You forgot again your meds today, aint you?
Have you forgot yours sir?
Originally by: Cassidy Solo
Quote: The upsides -Titans and Supercarriers get speed bonuses though the roof in Jove space -Titans and supercarriers able to use all Jove gates to move around (like a normal ship) but unable to use jump drives or jump bridges or clone vat bays. like wormhole space. -your able to place POSes for yourself... make it possible to rebuild as long your able to (mining becomes a fight for survival in a super cap)
First off, I'm going to assume you've never even seen a capital or super-capital ship. If you have, or even claim that you fly one, I'm going to assume that it would be one of those 9.5m SP "Titan" pilots, who can sit in one but can't do a damn thing with it.
Second off, that's an upside? Seriously? Just a chance to see your Ragnarok or Erebus fly around faster? In exchange for busting your ass and spending countless weeks risking everything?
- No Salvage - No Loot - No Tags - No Bounties
What am I missing here? I fail to see why anyone would even take this idea seriously.
you still get Loyalty Points and Ore that is out there. My Suggestion is to Rethink how you play Eve. though its pure Ramblings. there still room for changes. I want something else than 0.0 blobbing. you can still win.
Yet I am want supercap missions. I am not saying it will be a complete waste of time
Originally by: Valandril 1 jove frigate can solo half of current eve, so no.
who says that the Jove ships would be the Elite ones that they we have seen? who to say it will have the best of the best... but it should be better on the level of the current frigates. so even that your thinking and I am thinking are two different thinking.
so don't quickly shoot down something just because something happened in the past... you know that CCP would nerf it anyway. What ever you do, DO NOT, for love of god, do not use that smartbomb |
EthanPow
Caldari Drakeal Inc. Drakeal Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.16 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sefredius Mengsk
Originally by: EthanPow walloftext
plain stupid ideas
plain stupid Reply
Originally by: Lord Zekk Go to 0.0 you will get that stuff
so tell me this were will you get elite +7 implants and Jovian skillbooks and such? tell me
Originally by: Uskos Change you're dealer dude cause you're current one must be giving you some nasty **** instead of the mary jane you want.
I don't need that **** to be insane.
anyway I redid the suggestion again. thought at first I was aiming for titan, supercarrier missions since that can't work. we will have to aim for smaller ships in unknown space. What ever you do, DO NOT, for love of god, do not use that smartbomb |
Birdman Ravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.16 04:19:00 -
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I've been toying with the idea of a submitting the idea of a new rat faction that's got no boundaries and is really just out there to ruin a mission runner's day, but even to me this is massive overkill.
You're just giving large 0.0 alliances with the resources to pull off this level of PVE access to even more riches, like they didn't have enough as it is.
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Slippery Slug
Hulk Insurance Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.16 09:05:00 -
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Aren't you one of the guys who got scammed by Project Nemesis?
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2010.03.16 12:29:00 -
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Ok, there is something game that is almost exactly what you state.
-They try to pod you -They will DD you if there is a titan around -Some have bounties; most do not -Resistance could be omni or focused -Some salvage; not much -They will come to you -They will attack your pos -They will gatecamp -They make your life in <their space> a living hell.
Its called pvp. If you want something harder than missionrunning with more risk, there it is. Everything you've asked for is already in game. Go find it.
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JeanLuc Blindtard
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Posted - 2010.03.16 13:02:00 -
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God forbid people ask for a smart new way to make isk..
"Give us titan missions so only me and 250or so more can do them and have lots of isk..."
...let the rest of the 250.000 suckers stay in 0.0 /empire and rat/run missions in bs's or carriers or whatever...
You really didn't thought of these allot didn't you?
Titans are "large ****s" althou in RL one of those might get you lots of cash in eve they're not suppose to.
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