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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Originally by: King Rothgar /signed, consoles suck for gaming unless playing mario, even then, a good PC is better.
Excellent example good sir!!! It's a honor, no a privilege to game with someone as honorable as yourself.
I think we've all been trolled good sirs! ------
0800-LAG-A-NODE
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Emma Royd
Caldari Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2010.03.04 16:50:00 -
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Pointless discussion, CCP will do as they please as usual so roll over and accept it
PC's are totally different to consoles, as a motorbike is totally different to a car, both have their own strengths and weaknesses, I've not had a console since a PS1 many years ago, and have resisted the urge to buy an xbox as I don't think I'd get the use out of it to justify the expense, but maybe when Dust comes out I'll think again.
It amuses me the people who won't 2-300 bucks for a console but have a massive gaming pc where the graphics card alone would probably cost 2-300 bucks
I doubt my machine would do dust justice so I'd have to upgrade, and since that'd cost more than an xbox then I'd get an xbox (I hear they're cheap on fleabay :p)
I don't get the great divide between pc gamers and console gamers, granted I guess a PC can out perform a console if you spend enough cash on it, but the console runs straight out of the box, no setting up to do, looks better sat next to the telly, and a huge wedge of cash cheaper than a good gaming pc.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.03.04 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 04/03/2010 16:53:29 simple really, console players view PC players as elitest snobby stuck up ****s and PC players view console players as mouthbreathing sexist racist homophobes with ADD.
the fact both of these views are utterly wrong is for some reason never considered.
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.03.04 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Darek Castigatus Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 04/03/2010 16:53:29 simple really, console players view PC players as elitest snobby stuck up ****s and PC players view console players as mouthbreathing sexist racist homophobes with ADD.
the fact both of these views are utterly wrong is for some reason never considered.
u would say that you snobby stuck up **** PC player!
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.03.04 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kendon Rid****
Originally by: Darek Castigatus Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 04/03/2010 16:53:29 simple really, console players view PC players as elitest snobby stuck up ****s and PC players view console players as mouthbreathing sexist racist homophobes with ADD.
the fact both of these views are utterly wrong is for some reason never considered.
u would say that you snobby stuck up **** PC player!
lol, i see what you did there :P
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Darek Castigatus PC players view console players as sexist racist homophobes
That's a bit hypocritical don't you think? ------
0800-LAG-A-NODE
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 17:25:45
The only ppl against a PC port would be:
1. Ppl to poor to afford a sufficient gaming pc. Your poverty shouldn't hold back a better gaming experience for me and other hard working ppl.
2. Bitter PC gamers. Maybe u got a "blue screen of death" or ur cpu/gpu melted. Maybe ur mad at CCP because they got rid of the standard eve client? Either way ur lowering ur standards (playing consoles) just to shut out the bad experience u had on a pc.
3. Unintelligent Ppl. You really think consoles are more technological advandced. While your gaming on ur subpar console I'll be playing games in ultra high res, 16xAA, DX11. You'll say,"But I have a 65' plasma/lcd 1080p". I'll say,"Doesn't matter, I'll be gaming at 1900x1200 or even higher res while ur stuck at xxxx/1080 res."
Final Note: Xbox and PS3 gpu's are equal to about a Nvidia 7800GTX, which is generations behind my gtx285 (700mhz core,1320mhz mem) and with Nvidia upcoming "fermi" the gpu standard will be going up. Also my i7 920 (3.7ghz oc on air) whips the cpu in the xbox and PS3.
So you can't deny that pc gaming is at a higher level then console gaming. So the only defence that console fans have is price tag. I spend thousand of dollars a year on pc gaming/hardware, which I enjoy and don't mind spending money on but don't bring my gaming levels down just because u can't afford it.
So should we take away all the nice cars because some ppl can't afford them, of course not. Don't let someone elses poverty lower ur standard of living. So CCP, release a high quality PC version and a lower quality console vrson. Your wonderful game, Eve online shows ur gfx skills so don't let console hardware restrictions hold u back.
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Serge Bastana
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 17:27:20
The only ppl against a PC port would be:
1. Ppl to poor to afford a sufficient gaming pc. Your poverty shouldn't hold back a better gaming experience for me and other hard working ppl.
2. Bitter PC gamers. Maybe u got a "blue screen of death" or ur cpu/gpu melted. Maybe ur mad at CCP because they got rid of the standard eve client? Either way ur lowering ur standards (playing consoles) just to shut out the bad experience u had on a pc.
3. Unintelligent Ppl. You really think consoles are more technological advandced. While your gaming on ur subpar console I'll be playing games in ultra high res, 16xAA, DX11. You'll say,"But I have a 65' plasma/lcd 1080p". I'll say,"Doesn't matter, I'll be gaming at 1900x1200 or even higher res while ur stuck at xxxx/1080 res."
Final Note: Xbox and PS3 gpu's are equal to about a Nvidia 7800GTX, which is generations behind my gtx285 (700mhz core,1320mhz mem) and with Nvidia upcoming "fermi" the gpu standard will be going up. Also my i7 920 (3.7ghz oc on air) whips the cpu in the xbox and PS3.
So you can't deny that pc gaming is at a higher level then console gaming. So the only defence that console fans have is price tag. I spend thousand of dollars a year on pc gaming/hardware, which I enjoy and don't mind spending money on but don't bring my gaming levels down just because u can't afford it.
So should we take away all the nice cars because some ppl can't afford them, of course not. Don't let someone elses poverty lower ur standard of living. So CCP, release a high quality PC version and a lower quality console vrson. Your wonderful game, Eve online shows ur gfx skills so don't let console hardware restrictions hold u back.
TL;DR version: PC gaming > Console gaming
Can you get your head into high sec, due to it not fitting through gates?
------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag.
Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited! |
Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Iva Posavec on 04/03/2010 17:38:40
You trolled me you bastard... I tip my hat to you good sir
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Iva Posavec CEO of Posavec Innovations |
Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:40:00 -
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It's blatantly not gonna happen.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
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Jarik Utoni
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jarik Utoni on 04/03/2010 17:43:30
Originally by: Zhana Agonskaya Yet every PC gamer feels that they deserve a PC port, why? console gamers do not moan about not having a console version of EVE..
On this topic I would like to begin the Moaning for EVE to be also on console.
*scribbles gibberish on your signature list*
edit: fixed spelling that scared even me __________________ -Jarik Utoni, --Cov Ops Pilot ---T2 Frigate Specialist d(^.^)b
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:45:00 -
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Only those who are Ewoks with paw fungus problem are allowed to post below this.
Hah, take that!
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MadManMaura
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:49:00 -
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the reason it needs to be pc port becuase I dont like the idea of console bastards dictating how eve plays out. I am still aprehensive about dust 14 affecting the eve universe.
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Kazang
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:51:00 -
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The actually shooting is going to be terrible with ****** friendly controls and stuff like "perks" for being **** at the game (oh hi MW2 I didn't see you come in, no no no I was talking about some ummm, other game yeah......).
Console window lickers can keep Dust514 and even if the console version isn't totally awful, which I sincerely doubt, the chances of them doing a decent port to pc are slim to none.
Kazang
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 17:52:20
Originally by: MadManMaura the reason it needs to be pc port becuase I dont like the idea of console bastards dictating how eve plays out. I am still aprehensive about dust 14 affecting the eve universe.
Eve commnity is always complaining about WoW players and such, well wait till u get a bunch of 12 year old Halo/Cod console players screamin swears and racist remarks at you.
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Jarik Utoni
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 17:52:20
Originally by: MadManMaura the reason it needs to be pc port becuase I dont like the idea of console bastards dictating how eve plays out. I am still aprehensive about dust 14 affecting the eve universe.
Eve commnity is always complaining about WoW players and such, well wait till u get a bunch of 12 year old Halo/Cod console players screamin swears and racist remarks at you.
confirming that on Xbox the kids are annoying, fortunatly i have mad live chat troll abilities... those 3 year olds won't stand a chance __________________ -Jarik Utoni, --Cov Ops Pilot ---T2 Frigate Specialist d(^.^)b
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Senghir
Amarr Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Senghir on 04/03/2010 18:25:00
Originally by: Kazang The actually shooting is going to be terrible with ****** friendly controls and stuff like "perks" for being **** at the game (oh hi MW2 I didn't see you come in, no no no I was talking about some ummm, other game yeah......).
Console window lickers can keep Dust514 and even if the console version isn't totally awful, which I sincerely doubt, the chances of them doing a decent port to pc are slim to none.
This senseless PC fanboyism and console hostility is the typical reaction of a smaller group of people that feels threatened. The logic breaks down like this:
Person is part of a smaller group, the characteristics of which go against the grain of a more popular group.
Person questions why they are part of the less popular group.
Person applies logic that members of either group have an equal spread of intelligence, perception etc. Person draws two (not logical, but nevertheless is what seems to happen) conclusions.
The first conclusion is that: The wisdom of many is greater than that of the individual, therefore the larger group must be better than the smaller group. If so, person has made a poor judgement in selecting the smaller group, and thusly feels slightly silly.
This is not ideal for person. Humans of today seem to be particularly prone to blaming others rather than themselves for mistakes. First conclusion is not desirable as it hints at a fault with person. This leads to the second conclusion: Despite appeal of large group, smaller group is actually superior, but takes greater intelligence to notice. People of a higher than average intelligence are not as numerous as those of average inteligence and below. Therefore it is logical that a better group requiring higher intelligence to identify would only be populated by the smaller group of intelligent people, leaving the larger group to be populated by the masses. This allows person to fall into the intelligent category, rather than the masses category, which makes person feel secure and not at fault.
From here on, it's a culture of persecution and unjustified elitism. Groups were unfortuantely not populated as person assessed. In this case, the reason for the smaller group is simply due to changing times, the user friendly nature of a console, the cheaper price, the problem free installs and the universal platform that devs can all work from to perfect their games, rather than living in an ever changing environment of hardware, software and user specs.
In short, you shouldn't feel threatened because you chose a PC. It was (and is to some extent even now) a valid choice for gaming. But you need to accept the fact that consoles are selling better and becoming the standard for gaming.
You have to look at this logically.
The console share of the market is much much larger than the PC. More games are coming out on consoles and not being ported to the PC. Original PC games that arent console ports are on the decline.
This doesnt mean therefore that all people using consoles are stupid, just because they aren't standing on your sinking ship. And yes, whilst there is an abundant supply of idiots on games like Halo, this is because the market is so much larger and therefore much easier to be exposed to such idiocy. Jeez, one look at CAOD or Gen Dis on an average day should show you that the PC crowd has it's share of idiots too :)
Me personally, I have both a PC and a 360. Personally, I use my PC for MMORPGs, and my 360 for games like Assassin's Creed 2, Bioshock, CoD, and Mass Effect 2. Personally, I use whatever is easiest for me to get the enjoyment from games I want. For me, that's mainly a 360. I dont go about abusing PC gamers though, or describing them as window lickers (despite how accurate that would seem to be in some cases).
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Doctor Cal'torien
Gallente The Vikings of the Black Sea
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Senghir Will edit for spelling in a sec.
your wall of text needs more then spelling fixes -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien in before the "OP lacks content + witty dialogue" from Shadow
*click* You just did it for me.
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Senghir
Amarr Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien
Originally by: Senghir Will edit for spelling in a sec.
your wall of text needs more then spelling fixes
You might need this
Perception Level 1 |
Emma Royd
Caldari Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Bastana Can you get your head into high sec, due to it not fitting through gates?
ROFL
[rant] Hey look at me, I'm playing in my parent's basement, with nothing else to spend my burger flipping money on. Maybe a little harsh but the poor English seems to indicate teenager who's used to txting m8's or however it's done.
Spare a thought for people in the real world who can't afford to spend "Thousands of dollars" a year on a luxury such as the latest graphics gizmo before rubbing their noses in your apparent wealth. People with mortgages, kids, other real world expenses who haven't got the free disposable income you've got, but manage to play eve by careful financial planning.
I'm not aiming to come over all holier than thou, but your attitude stinks, nobody likes a showoff.
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Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity |
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Doctor Cal'torien
Gallente The Vikings of the Black Sea
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Senghir
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien
Originally by: Senghir Will edit for spelling in a sec.
your wall of text needs more then spelling fixes
You might need this
Perception Level 1
your jokes sir, they sting
honestly i can understand it... just don't feel like reading something i have to scroll down to finish... unless it's a good story. props on making paragraphs though, makes it less Wall-like -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien in before the "OP lacks content + witty dialogue" from Shadow
*click* You just did it for me.
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MadManMaura
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:36:00 -
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signed
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Th0rG0d
Pilots From Honour
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:39:00 -
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If we are talking about "real" gamers.... I would say I qualify. I not only game on the PC, but also on the 360, the Wii, a DS, a PSP, and then some more on my brothers PS3 too.
So CCP, please port to all of the above, just so you can sastify the real gamer here!
-------------------------------------- Adrift in New Eden
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 18:43:11
Originally by: Senghir blah
Read first couple sentences (u need a tl;dr version).
Pc gamers go off hardware specs and console gamers go off trend. Any unbiased person can see that pc hardware is leaps and bounds above console hardware and they can play games at a higher res/gfx with higher fps. The funny thing is u trick urself into thinkin console are higher quality but I guess a man has to live with wat he can afford.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 18:52:31
Originally by: Emma Royd
Originally by: Serge Bastana Can you get your head into high sec, due to it not fitting through gates?
ROFL
[rant] Hey look at me, I'm playing in my parent's basement, with nothing else to spend my burger flipping money on. Maybe a little harsh but the poor English seems to indicate teenager who's used to txting m8's or however it's done.
Spare a thought for people in the real world who can't afford to spend "Thousands of dollars" a year on a luxury such as the latest graphics gizmo before rubbing their noses in your apparent wealth. People with mortgages, kids, other real world expenses who haven't got the free disposable income you've got, but manage to play eve by careful financial planning.
I'm not aiming to come over all holier than thou, but your attitude stinks, nobody likes a showoff.
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It's capitalism, if u don't like it move to a communist/socialist country. This ain't a charity, I can do watever I want wit my money and I sure as **** don't need to "spare a thought for ppl" because u can't make me.
Edit: Let me guess, ur a liberal, frakin commy . Ppl like u take away financial freedoms and hold progress back.
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Mabuse How are console players supposd to compete on a level playing field with keyboard/mouse PC players?
Oh I don't know… by using a keyboard and mouse combo?
Originally by: Trader20 The only ppl against a PC port would be:
…CCP, who have no interest and little to gain from releasing it on PC.
Originally by: Trader20 Any unbiased person can see that pc hardware is leaps and bounds above console hardware and they can play games at a higher res/gfx with higher fps.
They also see that none of that matters… that is, if they're actually unbiased. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Senghir
Amarr Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 18:43:11
Originally by: Senghir blah
Read first couple sentences (u need a tl;dr version).
Pc gamers go off hardware specs and console gamers go off trend. Any unbiased person can see that pc hardware is leaps and bounds above console hardware and they can play games at a higher res/gfx with higher fps. The funny thing is u trick urself into thinkin console are higher quality but I guess a man has to live with wat he can afford.
I wholly accept that after the initial release period, PC hardware will be ahead of console hardware. I dont think anyone disuptes that. The problem however is that that hardware is often very expensive, prone to stability issues occasionally, and if you buy it all asa package deal it's even more costly. Another massive issue (and I think the main one really) is that on a console, developers have a platform to produce their games for that the *know* will be around in years to come, and *know* that they can still sell their games on it. Their target audience is using the same hardware. On the PC, developers have to worry about what hardwarre specs their users have. Are they pitching their game too high? Are they alientating those with older machines? Then there's what operating system they are using, what drivers etc. Is it all compatible? Will it be compatible in a year? All this means that more ongoing support will be needed.
Finally, with today's technology, even though the 360 is 5 (bit less? bit more?) years old, games still look great on it. And running those games on the highest spec PC isn't the difference it once was. The high spec PC will make it a little shinier, it might run a bit faster. That's it. We're not talking showstoppers here. It's not as if the PC version runs whilst the console version looks patched together and clunky. |
Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 19:20:00 -
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All trends and prices aside, pc hardware will always be better then console hardware. It's funny ppl find all these excuses to put consoles above pc's but in the end you can't deny the facts. A pc port will not hurt anyone but u still try to stop, hmm how odd? Maybe you try to stop it because u can't afford it, a little jealous are we?
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 All trends and prices aside, pc hardware will always be better then console hardware. It's funny ppl find all these excuses to put consoles above pc's but in the end you can't deny the facts.
What fact is that? That it doesn't matter, as the market is proving more and more for every day that goes. Also, if you actually read the responses, you'd probably notice that no-one is putting consoles above PC:s.
Quote: A pc port will not hurt anyone but u still try to stop, hmm how odd?
No-one is trying to stop it… well, no-one except maybe CCP, since it probably hurts their business strategy.
Quote: Maybe you try to stop it because u can't afford it, a little jealous are we?
Says the guy who can't afford a console and who's jealous about what they might get that he won't.
At any rate, trust me, you can't afford the PC:s I have, boyo. Fortunately, I can afford those and a console or two. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Trader20
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Posted - 2010.03.04 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2010 19:36:14
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Trader20 All trends and prices aside, pc hardware will always be better then console hardware. It's funny ppl find all these excuses to put consoles above pc's but in the end you can't deny the facts.
What fact is that? That it doesn't matter, as the market is proving more and more for every day that goes. Also, if you actually read the responses, you'd probably notice that no-one is putting consoles above PC:s.
Quote: A pc port will not hurt anyone but u still try to stop, hmm how odd?
No-one is trying to stop ità well, no-one except maybe CCP, since it probably hurts their business strategy.
Quote: Maybe you try to stop it because u can't afford it, a little jealous are we?
Says the guy who can't afford a console and who's jealous about what they might get that he won't.
At any rate, trust me, you can't afford the PC:s I have, boyo. Fortunately, I can afford those and a console or two.
Lol looks like ur a little butt hurt.
So wheres those specs of ur leet imaginary comp (i'll wait for u to pull up newegg and list the most expensive hardware). You list a pc but no specs = ur lying. Face it, ur poor and I have a better rig then u. Do me a favor, stop postin cause I just ownd u.
Also I have a ps3 but I only use it for bluray movies.
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