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Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:47:00 -
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Are amarr ships banned in this tournament? Because I haven't seen a single amarr ship this far in the tournament. |
Fish Brain
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:53:00 -
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Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived. |
Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
13
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Posted - 2012.06.30 17:55:00 -
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This is normal - Amarr are susceptible to neuting, TDing, and aren't optimal in other categories like sensor strength, speed, etc.
The result is that most setups tend to be Caldari or Minmatar, some Gallente, and then the rare Amarr-heavy team that banks on the fact people bias racial jammers to counter the other more common races. One of the final teams last year did it with great success.
The exceptions to this general rule are the Curse, Guardian, Bhaalgorn (albeit its Blood Raider). |
Loysy
PamPam Flying Circus Astromechanica Federatis
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:39:00 -
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Need big buff to amarr ship... DPS and Fitting (harbiger need big up to fitting) Amarr ship is very sensitive to neut/speed/tracking distrup... Where the balancing. CCP please. |
Zastrow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:43:00 -
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Fish Brain wrote:Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived.
You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:48:00 -
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Zastrow wrote:Fish Brain wrote:Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived. You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday
Were they obliterated? |
Zastrow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:49:00 -
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it wasn't pretty |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
48
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:51:00 -
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Zastrow wrote:Fish Brain wrote:Amarr has 100% survival rate so far. One Punisher was fielded and lived. You must have missed the Oracle team yesterday
I believe it hadn't been fielded at the time that message was posted. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
72
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:53:00 -
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Do you expect that more Amarr ships will be fielded in the 100 points phase of the tournament? Like... Amarr being better than others for fleet comps, but worse for gank comps. |
Raziphan Rebular
Polished Diamond Industries Vortek Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:54:00 -
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I personally found it pretty amusing that CVA fielded an all minmatar team, they did the same the previous years as well I think. I guess they don't much do the roleplay thing any more. |
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Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
149
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Posted - 2012.07.01 18:56:00 -
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http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=ships&sortby=race&range=all
several amarr ships actually.. what yes still the least used. |
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
159
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:48:00 -
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http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=general
So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones. |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
209
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:49:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones. it is almost as if they were.. cursed The Order of the Falcon or Hin +ˇslenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
51
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Posted - 2012.07.08 15:57:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:http://at.eve-ic.net/10/?view=statistics&tab=general
So why are Amarr ships not used more in this tournament? I remember they were quite popular in previous ones.
Well, Cyclone/Sleipnir teams seem to be pretty common. Minmatar T2 native resists make bringing Amarr ships an exercise in futility, especially with the limited amount of points in qualifiers. I'm thinking we'll see more of them in the last two weekends, like always. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
534
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:38:00 -
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Yeah, the big thing your comp has to counter (unless you have a meta advantage with spies, etc.) is Minmatar Rush. It's actually worse this year, because last year Sabres were the hotness and those have pretty **** resists vs. lasers, whereas now the Jaguar is fielded instead and it has awesome laser resists. |
Faife
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
63
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:24:00 -
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sure is a lot of registered bhaalgorn flagships though. |
Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:30:00 -
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Speaking as a theorycrafter there is one thing missing from the vast majority of Amarr ships. DPS.
Amarr has some fantastic ships but it has a supporting cast of some very slow very tanky low DPS ships.
Oh and damage types. |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
46
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:40:00 -
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We used two of them to great success, I don't know what you're talking about SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
46
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:41:00 -
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bah SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
358
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:48:00 -
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We had two Vengys. Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/ http://kbarmy.heretic-army.biz/
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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
46
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:26:00 -
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Just to add, the camera work on my vengy keeping pace with the vindi and then shooting off into gunfire was some of my favorite cam work so far and would have been even if it had not been me. More of that please. SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Solomar Espersei
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
197
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:52:00 -
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Funny how when you talk about lasers, all anyone can talk about is their limited damage type. Not sure why the same point of criticism doesn't apply to blasters.
I think the real story is the relative lack of mid slots and limited ability to control range. That and of course, the lack of synergy with the various ASBs.
It will be interesting to see if more Amarr ships show up during 12v12. Recruiting is OPEN Please join our public channel The Ninja Dojo for more info |
Garr Earthbender
Quantum Cats Syndicate
46
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Posted - 2012.07.10 00:23:00 -
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Didn't I see an Amarr Rush team with 2 Legions, a Guardian, and 3 Punishers? I THINK SO!!!!
http://at.eve-ic.net/10/index.php?view=match&id=54 -Rock is overpowered, Scissors is fine. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
71
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Posted - 2012.07.10 11:34:00 -
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Wait.. No Amarr ships at all?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCwI5YC0Fs
I must be going craZy |
B'reanna
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:56:00 -
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pretty sure i killed an abso on sunday |
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