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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.02.28 13:18:00 -
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i already get 100% mining refinement in high sec so i still see no need to go to low sec for anything. let alone take a hulk and orca to mine in space where miners and industrialist know that they are the primary targets for all the incentives to go mine in low sec would have to be massive for me to want to risk whats in essence about 500 to 1 billion isks worth depending on whats in cargo bays, rigs etc. i find its much safer to travel and mine in worm holes where i dont appear in local and i just got to keep an eye on the directional for probes and incomming warships.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.02.28 14:26:00 -
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i totally agree with you there the fact that most miners and industrialists ships cost so much to be risked in low sec is insane unless you can get a security force to come with you which more often than not you cant as most pew pewers get very bored very quickly and want to shoot stuff so they go off not to mention that if you try to warp out the likes of an orca takes years to engange th enegines and can be easily knocked off alignment by a fast frig that ends up locking you up for his bigger friends to come in and finish you the risk to profit factors go something like this in low sec. risk -10 profit +2 do a simple division and you get -8. so basicly untill we miners/industrialists get some stuff going our way for a change low sec can stay dead of players as far as we are concerned.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.03.01 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Dralos on 01/03/2010 19:19:24 a friend of mines the other day said that the easiest way to attract mining and hauling ships into low sec is to re-classify them as T1 ships that way they can be insured.
which funny enough if i could insure my ship for 100% return id be more inclined to go to low sec to mine but as likes of hulks are T2 and insurance on T2 sucks no way im gonna waste time and assets going to low sec.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.03.04 17:10:00 -
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i like how the pvpers love to denegrate the poor miners and haulers calling us carebears like thats a bad thing well us miners have asked for things to be made for mining ships to help them survive attacks from pretty much any ship out there as everyone knows who actually flys in a miner/hauling ship they are nothing more than pinyada's easy to break and generally full of delicious goodies. the next problem is if you lose a warship at most you are losing what somewhere between 25 and 100 mill which unless your using T2 can be insured for 100% so totally no risks there of losing much isks and if things getting too hot for you guys you just hit your big red button which is get me the f*** out of here in 5 seconds or less warp drive. now then as for us miners and haulers we press our big red button which might activate the warp drive and if we aint being scrammed or such like might get us out in about a minute or two before our glass tank falls apart. which by the way our ships generally start at 100 mill and work their way up in isks the only one of the mining ships that even has a basic tank ability is the hulk and its T2 so your pretty much out of luck to insure it. this is risk hundreds of millions of isks in low sec to be either jumped at gates scrammed in roid fields or just harrassed pretty much by everyone who want to have an easy and expencive kill for their kill boards. you want to know what risk vs isks is like id like ccp to increase the initial costs of warships to equal that of mining and hauling ships then you could see the picture from our view point a little better.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:41:00 -
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actually you can buy covetors for around 17.5 mill add on lasers and rigs looking closer to 25 mill and still super easy to pop it still comes back to same thing i posted before risk vs isk. try reading what i wrote also i was on about warship costs vs mining ship costs before you go into your little stupidity mode of trying to flame. flamers are lame especially when they flame before they read imo.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.03.05 18:57:00 -
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to be honest id love to see a roving war fleet of cap ships from a few of the 0.0 empires to jump through low sec and kill everything in its path and block off strategic choke points in low sec for several weeks just to be annoying to the pvpers but alas i know thats not going to happen so........... pvpers should stop whining about the way miners are hiding in hi sec wanting ores removing or concord protection to be removed etc. its not gonna happen and its not gonna get us to come out to play in low sec i prefer wh space myself if i want the rarer ores you cant get in hi sec as for removing ice do you know that most peeps rely upon ice in high sec for pos's all over eve it would have a detrimental effect on everyone if they where only allowed to be mined in 0.0.
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Lord Dralos
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Posted - 2010.03.15 15:55:00 -
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well from what ive been reading in this posting i can safely say the miners/industrialists and yes even the carebear pve guys and girls have 0% interest in going into low sec so the pirates and pvpers have only got themselves to blame for the state low sec is in
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