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El Enterrador
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Posted - 2010.07.03 18:32:00 -
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I was wondering, do we get paid ISK if we decide to go test or no
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CCP Laurelle
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Posted - 2010.07.03 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: El Enterrador I was wondering, do we get paid ISK if we decide to go test or no
No ISK, just a better cluster :)
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The7SensE
a Lame Astral Dragon Yogurt
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Posted - 2010.07.03 22:28:00 -
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Yay for test day :) ... It was fun _________________
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shackattack
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Posted - 2010.07.04 10:04:00 -
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Last nights test was fun.
Had no problems whiles in fleet other than Traffic Control when jumping, upside of that was no jump took longer than 1 minute even if Traffic Control took place.
Found overview easier to use, targets not updating to quickly.
Problems: Major lag once battle commenced, even before cats arrived :). Launching of drones took forever, even got an error message, once drones launched though they responded very well. Activating missile module was 1 click, deactivating took a good few minutes, was quicker to warp away :( Major lag when warping away from battle as well :(
Overhaul was lots of fun :)
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2010.07.13 10:18:00 -
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Certain aspects of EVE combat that are prominent on Tranquility are not done or even banned on SiSi. Specifically dictor bubbles, bombs, titan bridging and podkilling. All these happen in abundance in real fights, would it not make sense to allow them in mass tests ? If one of these things is a major cause for lag we'll never discover it during mass tests.
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Rododen drone
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Posted - 2010.07.15 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: El Enterrador I was wondering, do we get paid ISK if we decide to go test or no
I wonder, how many people are willing to pay $ to CCP for doing their QA team job.
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partheelt
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Posted - 2010.07.15 21:09:00 -
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Lol this is so funny....
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Daan Sai
OHiTech
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Posted - 2010.07.19 03:32:00 -
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If fixing lag is so important, and I think it is, and SiSi is not a good simulation of TQ, why can't we have an extended downtime where we load the SiSi DB onto the TQ cluster and run a realistic large battle. Give everyone lvl 5 skills and you'll get plenty of pilots. Then just put TQ DB back and we're good to go. A day spent like this may be worth weeks on SiSi.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:13:00 -
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My windows ingame are not minimizing properly. They turn into a "X" on the leftbottom of the screen, next to the clock. When I dock up, all my windows get dragged to the middle of the screen, including the Station Services.
My overview is freezing after one jump, and will only work again if I dock up again. Some elements from the UI are showing glitchs (like when you drag one object, the sprite following the cursor is just wrong)
I can't get to group windows too.. they get really bugged.
Is all this happening to everyone?
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Conan Piter
Ways and Means
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Posted - 2010.07.26 17:26:00 -
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During the last two mass tests I participated in, at the jump-in stage my client went into a tight loop writing log files and produced about 5gb before I gave up. FPS went down to a few frames per minute. In both cases I asked in the mass testing questions channel if these logs are useful and, if so, how should I submit them. In both cases I did not receive and answer, so I assumed they weren't wanted. I thought it might be a good idea to follow-up here in case this data is useful to someone.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar Forsaken Legions Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Conan Piter I thought it might be a good idea to follow-up here in case this data is useful to someone.
Most probably your logs show nothing
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Matty5960
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:27:00 -
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Will we get a fresh flash or would CCP grant us SP on SiSi for the test. I think it would be beneficial if CCP did give us SP so even the lesser skilled people can get out there and have some fun. Nobody wants to bring a t1 fitted frigate to a large scale fleet fight.
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Matty5960 Will we get a fresh flash or would CCP grant us SP on SiSi for the test. I think it would be beneficial if CCP did give us SP so even the lesser skilled people can get out there and have some fun. Nobody wants to bring a t1 fitted frigate to a large scale fleet fight.
Last time everyone got all skills at level 5 on SiSi anything but testing occured.
A T1 fitted T1 frig will cause just as much server load as a Titan anyways.
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Darth Vapour
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Posted - 2010.07.31 13:38:00 -
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The UI on SiSi at the moment is a huge mess. I've made six bug reports in 20 minutes as basically nothing works as it should. I hope you get all this fixed before this mass test.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.31 14:23:00 -
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Serious honest question:
Nobody has ever said why you can't and don't install the monitoring software on the live server, and run it when you A) see a fight, B) get a node reinforcement request.
Its an honest question, it seems the metrics you want, as well as the bodies you need are readily available in those areas, and honestly, if "it would make TQ lag worse" is the answer, you should probably review that, because it really can't get much worse for us.
The main reason I ask, is that your scheduling during the week is mainly during work hours for most of the US tz, so the chances of me taking off, or being home, and NOT having something important going on on the live server are pretty damn slim, so organizing time for this is extremely hard.
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Rex Hargrove
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.31 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 31/07/2010 16:41:09
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Nothing but truth
Seriously, I understand you can be a bit less "invasive" on sisi but why can't you take some data from TQ? Due to the nature of sov warfare and node reinforcement requests, you KNOW when fights are likely to happen. There's giant f'in timer in space for christ sakes, so you know if something really important like a CSAA or a station is coming out in 1 day 18 hours and 17 minutes, it's probably gonna be a fight there. At worst you say hey, "You guys get to get off work early today, and you get tomorrow off during the day. Show back up at 2 in the morning and prepare to collect data for about 5 hours while our players black screen and figure out why the servers are melting." You get the data you go home, repeat for the next 3 weeks of fights, and then spend the next 2 months trying to find a fix.
At this point there's enough broken stuff on TQ where no one will really care if you break the game for a couple hours while collecting data as long as you are working towards a fix for all of these problems.
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Cade Windstalker
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Posted - 2010.07.31 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 31/07/2010 16:41:09
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Nothing but truth
Seriously, I understand you can be a bit less "invasive" on sisi but why can't you take some data from TQ? Due to the nature of sov warfare and node reinforcement requests, you KNOW when fights are likely to happen. There's giant f'in timer in space for christ sakes, so you know if something really important like a CSAA or a station is coming out in 1 day 18 hours and 17 minutes, it's probably gonna be a fight there. At worst you say hey, "You guys get to get off work early today, and you get tomorrow off during the day. Show back up at 2 in the morning and prepare to collect data for about 5 hours while our players black screen and figure out why the servers are melting." You get the data you go home, repeat for the next 3 weeks of fights, and then spend the next 2 months trying to find a fix.
At this point there's enough broken stuff on TQ where no one will really care if you break the game for a couple hours while collecting data as long as you are working towards a fix for all of these problems.
Well, for one TQ doesn't have test patches and all that fun stuff.
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Spc One
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.01 00:37:00 -
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I hope you fix GUI problems on sisi so we can mass test it on 5th.
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JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2010.08.01 02:39:00 -
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I'd like to participate now that it's back to weekdays (I work weekends, couldn't do those), but I've never had SiSi before, and have a question. Since the test is for testing fleet engagements and I'm required to be in at least a battleship, how am I to do that if I've not played on SiSi before? Or does that server follow some different rules and all characters you make there start with max skills and billions of isk or something?
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.01 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Cade Windstalker
Originally by: Rex Hargrove Edited by: Rex Hargrove on 31/07/2010 16:41:09
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Nothing but truth
Seriously, I understand you can be a bit less "invasive" on sisi but why can't you take some data from TQ? Due to the nature of sov warfare and node reinforcement requests, you KNOW when fights are likely to happen. There's giant f'in timer in space for christ sakes, so you know if something really important like a CSAA or a station is coming out in 1 day 18 hours and 17 minutes, it's probably gonna be a fight there. At worst you say hey, "You guys get to get off work early today, and you get tomorrow off during the day. Show back up at 2 in the morning and prepare to collect data for about 5 hours while our players black screen and figure out why the servers are melting." You get the data you go home, repeat for the next 3 weeks of fights, and then spend the next 2 months trying to find a fix.
At this point there's enough broken stuff on TQ where no one will really care if you break the game for a couple hours while collecting data as long as you are working towards a fix for all of these problems.
Well, for one TQ doesn't have test patches and all that fun stuff.
They don't really need the test patches, they need data, lots and lots of data.
They have a hard time getting appropriate numbers on the test server to generate the amount of data they need, so instead of having monitoring software on the test server, put it in the damn live server where you can get your data.
Test patches have nothing to do with data gathering, the important bottleneck in the process.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 04:23:00 -
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I've been wondering - Why does CCP need 500 people for testing when you can reliably reproduce the lag with over 200 on an unreinforced lowsec node.
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Bishop Bob
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bishop Bob on 01/08/2010 09:11:03
Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas I've been wondering - Why does CCP need 500 people for testing when you can reliably reproduce the lag with over 200 on an unreinforced lowsec node.
Probably the same way I can reproduce my car breaking down by not putting any fuel in it. Having the same symptoms doesn't mean it's the same cause.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.01 09:14:00 -
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That's bad news for CCP then, it means they've got two things to fix.
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ZiggyMeister
Minmatar Wings of Freedom Muppets Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.01 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: ZiggyMeister on 01/08/2010 19:07:33
Originally by: JonnyRandom I'd like to participate now that it's back to weekdays (I work weekends, couldn't do those), but I've never had SiSi before, and have a question. Since the test is for testing fleet engagements and I'm required to be in at least a battleship, how am I to do that if I've not played on SiSi before? Or does that server follow some different rules and all characters you make there start with max skills and billions of isk or something?
To use SiSi now you don't need to have used it before.
If you can fly a BS for at least 30 days you'll probably be able to fly it on SiSi, as SiSi is a mirror of TQ made a few days ago. I have no idea when it was made, but I guess they will probably make a fresh one before the Mass Tests begin.
Regarding ISK, you'll have the same ISK you had when they made the mirror from TQ, but all market items on SiSi are 100 ISK/unit, so you'll have no problem buying and fitting a BS.
For more info you should refer to the firts page of this Thread and check the help/tips CCP links there.
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Budsin Adar
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:14:00 -
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I would go there but i have no idea where that system is. Also the station enviroments and places out side and after every jump have not been fixed on the test server. So till they get that stuff fixed I won't go anywhere as of yet. WHy not Jita? since there should be less of a problem there okay you can't DDD it but wait you can do somethings CCP Tanis hope you can get this fixed then I may find some way of getting there but atm going from system to system is a pain in the butt auto piloting is the only way there then if getting an item it works cuz then bring up market and find it then warp to dock and have to repin everything again SISI has to many bugs and no 1 atm can use drones on there ships get that fixed then we have a game Peace all and fly safe. I will join with an alliance or CCP for that time who ever calls first laters all 0/
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Gandolf
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:31:00 -
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gather your data from REAL fleet battle im 99.9% sure people wouldnt mind as long as u let them know u were doing it and there was going to be a benifit at the end
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GermxXx
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Posted - 2010.08.02 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: ZiggyMeister
To use SiSi now you don't need to have used it before.
If you can fly a BS for at least 30 days you'll probably be able to fly it on SiSi, as SiSi is a mirror of TQ made a few days ago. I have no idea when it was made, but I guess they will probably make a fresh one before the Mass Tests begin.
Regarding ISK, you'll have the same ISK you had when they made the mirror from TQ, but all market items on SiSi are 100 ISK/unit, so you'll have no problem buying and fitting a BS.
For more info you should refer to the firts page of this Thread and check the help/tips CCP links there.
Made a few days ago? Well my account hasn't been mirrored in like 2 months or so... I'm still waiting for that mirror to happen so my sisichar can catch up.
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Morgrim Firebrandt
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:27:00 -
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I have an idea that will get you the testers you seek, maybe too many.
Make it a policy that anyone who logs in for the scheduled tests gets 100,000 bonus sp on Tranquility for the character they logged in to test with, prorated to the length of time they were on vs the length of the test. If it's a 4-hour test and you stay for 1, you get 25,000 sp. The amount might need some tuning, but I guarantee you'll have people hammering the server to get on during test time and you are not out any cost to get the players except the time it takes to parse the server logs and give those people their sp.
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Josef Huffenpuff
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.03 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Budsin Adar I would go there but i have no idea where that system is.
Autopilot like the rest of us
Originally by: Budsin Adar Also the station enviroments and places out side and after every jump have not been fixed on the test server
Huh? I Don't know what you mean. Bug report it, that's what the test system is for
Originally by: Budsin Adar WHy not Jita? since there should be less of a problem there okay you can't DDD it but wait
Answered your own point there. Also - cant cyno, cant use caps, cant use super caps. Not everyone lives in Jita.
Originally by: Budsin Adar auto piloting is the only way there
Yep, same as the rest of us or try a "moveme" request in the chat channel
Originally by: Budsin Adar have to repin everything again
Check your pinned window settings in the 'Esc' menu, sounds like you've got them wrong
Originally by: Budsin Adar SISI has to many bugs and no 1 atm can use drones on there ships
SiSi has the same bugs as TQ. If you cant use drones you could ermmm.... bug report it maybe ?
Originally by: Budsin Adar I will join with an alliance or CCP for that time who ever calls first laters all 0/
If you're not going to join and aren't actually looking for help to your problems, why are you posting here ?
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Xiaodown
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:07:00 -
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Do we get paid for this now?
Or are we still doing their QA and integration testing for free? --
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