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Samuel Cole
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.01.31 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Samuel Cole on 31/01/2010 19:39:24 This thread is not about The Star Fraction's killboard stats in Providence, or Severance's inability to notice that we've maintained close to 90% efficiency since the beginning of this campaign. Nor is this thread about how we lost six cruisers to them two nights ago, nor Severance's inability to note the 2.13 billion isk of damage we have done to their alliance alone in the last three days. Nor is this thread about Black Lustrum in general, nor Severance's inability to notice that their industrial indexes continues to fall under our guns.
No, this thread is about the fact that CVA's leadership is either astonishingly incompetent or dangerously insane. It is about the fact that if you continue to follow them, -A- will burn through Providence, demolishing your homes and salting the earth in their wake.
Open your ears, people of faith. Sorus Chatelain has promised to attack you if you do not prosecute this war of folly. Are these the words of a godly man?
Equinox Daedalus has claimed to have a "vision" from God commissioning him to send you to your deaths. Is it hard to notice that Daedalus's God hates all the people he hates and holds all the opinions he holds? He has succeeded in making God in his own image; he has caught a glimpse of his own reflection and fallen down to worship it. There is a word for this - it is called idolatry. Perhaps if this idolater spent more time in the Ammatar Church, he would know something of the relationship between God and the oppressed.
-A- is not the first foreign empire to be used by God to crush a chosen people for their iniquity. Turn away from your leaders who lead you astray. Break away from the corruption that has you doing the work of man rather than the work of God. Flee your CVA masters and take your destiny into your own hands. Dare to dream.
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Serious Rikk
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: A sucks -A- won dg for two reason lag and spy thats the only reason why you have dg now our numbers outnumber you that night but stupid ccp lag was in your favor, and for your spys our cap fleet whould have murderd you your titans whould have went down and you whould have went home crying lets see if you could fight without having to get our pos pw to ambush our cap fleet make it a straight up fight and see who whould win
-A- won D-G for one reason. We are a more capable ahnd experienced battle force than anything the providence holders can deploy.
You had your chance to take a shot at our titans at that POS, instead your fleet commanders chose to jump out. You lost your cap fleet because your fleet commanders chose to come back.
Had it been a straight fight you would have got some cap kills. But the fight would still have been lost.
Nice how you hide behind an cloak. I hope to see you on the battlefield, but it would be much more fun if I were to know when I am targetting you. Hiding your face is a cowardly act and speaks volumes about how quickly we believe providence holders will loose the will to fight. _________________________
-- Noble Scumbag
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Dru McCarty
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:34:00 -
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People of Providence,
Question your leaders. Is this your will? Is this what YOU want? Your leaders decision to start this senseless aggression has imperiled YOUR prosperity...and possibly your existence.
Lord Sideous has offered the carrot, why do you dare him to use the stick?
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Anope
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:41:00 -
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Unlike the cruel Curatores Veritatis Alliance, who demanded that you stand, Against All Authorities require only that you kneel.
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Ellatan Deruimte
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Anope Unlike the cruel Curatores Veritatis Alliance, who demanded that you stand, Against All Authorities require only that you kneel.
Do not pay much attention to this one, he is a very special person in our alliance.
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Booster Terrikk
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Posted - 2010.01.31 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Anope Unlike the cruel Curatores Veritatis Alliance, who demanded that you stand, Against All Authorities require only that you kneel.
This makes as much sense as the rest of the thread - OP seems to be slightly confused as to what he's offering (I don't actually see any offer - can someone quote it to me please) and the constant referral to "unwritten rules" and "unmarked lines" muddles me further.
-A-'s wonderful protection of Providence when CVA was disbanded was obviously a beautiful period, with everyone on good terms and cheerfully sharing their wealth. I wasn't around at the time, but would have loved to witness that joy.
Quote: "We have no hate for the people of Providence, we bear no malcontempt for its Holders, on the contrary"
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Either way CVA loses and you know it.
They've lost anyway. It's just a question of how much they can extract from the armistice terms. I'd say this looks like a very favourable deal. ----------
~bitter dog~
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DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Either way CVA loses and you know it.
They've lost anyway. It's just a question of how much they can extract from the armistice terms. I'd say this looks like a very favourable deal.
You really don't know CVA don't you ?
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Christos Hendez
Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:30:00 -
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Citizens of Providence,
Why do you follow your disiulluiosned leaders? why do you abandon a relationship so fruitful? Why do you march to your deaths? You know this will never end well for you, so while you have the time, convince your inconsiderate leaders that it is time to stop and make amends.
We harbour no hate for you. We have nothing against you. We are willing to give you another chance - hear us now, or forever live with your leaders mistake as your burden!
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LordMordred
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:38:00 -
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We are not offering you forgiveness. We are offering you mercy.
If we were to offer you forgiveness, it would be a great insult to both us and you. Rather, we offer you a chance to simply walk away and keep both the honor and pride as independent Proviholders. Some say this offer of mercy is more than you deserve. We'll see. -----
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Colonel Vatutin
Caldari Tread Combat Industries Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: LordMordred We are not offering you forgiveness. We are offering you mercy.
If we were to offer you forgiveness, it would be a great insult to both us and you. Rather, we offer you a chance to simply walk away and keep both the honor and pride as independent Proviholders. Some say this offer of mercy is more than you deserve. We'll see.
Lord Mordred - Please read through my columns and understand that either is not really an option for CVA - not a happy one at least, and that there is little difference for them. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Public's take on IT(BOB) vs. Goon drama:
Kishmull > was like watching two gays fight over who gets to wear the dress
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Anna Valerios
Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.31 22:58:00 -
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh rolee plaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ~ avs |
a newbie
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Posted - 2010.01.31 23:31:00 -
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CVA is battered and bloodied, but far from down for the count. However that can become a possibility if things continue as is. Currently the ranks on both sides are harking for war, or suing for peace. I don't know about you or your fellow compatriots, but regardless if it was the leadership who made the choices, the only way to make the leadership pay, is to bring the castle down around them.
CVA made a calculated and informed decision. Not the fault of any capsuleer other than the decision makers that the blaring signs of alarm were not heeded. They gambled, and lost. And while there are those that like the status quo, others are foaming at the mouth. This war was not my own originally, but I am more than happy to jump head long into this fray.
I call for the dogs of war to be released...and let CVA eat their own words.
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CONQUERINGAZ
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.01 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: A sucks -A- won dg for two reason lag and spy thats the only reason why you have dg now our numbers outnumber you that night but stupid ccp lag was in your favor, and for your spys our cap fleet whould have murderd you your titans whould have went down and you whould have went home crying lets see if you could fight without having to get our pos pw to ambush our cap fleet make it a straight up fight and see who whould win
Obviously A sucks is the most capable, intelligent, and sensible person in his entire 3rd grade class. That or another troll that is taking the "going down to the stupidity of your enemies thing" to a whole new level.
In either case, we offered d-g back to prov in return for them to rescind the Operation deliverance for catch. As Manny stated, the offered was refused, and know the fun will begin.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 01:03:00 -
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I support this product and/or service.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Xan Dolran
Minmatar Smegnet Corp
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Posted - 2010.02.01 06:30:00 -
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A followup:
It seems that a non posting edict has been sent down from on high in LFA. As my corp is the industrial branch of SMEGI but not actually *IN* LFA I was not aware of this when I made my first post and that caused us to be fined 50 million isk as a result. Sorry guys! (I would never want to do such a thing on accident).
As things stand now in Providence, from a non-enlightened perspective... The lives of many are in the hands of few. As I gather, there's more to just "Stay out of our yard and you can keep your playground." At this point it appears CVA has told AAA to go raindance on a lightning rod, so I see AAA responding with extreme prejudice. However, it appears that AAA might've left options open for holder alliances to work out arrangements with them. Can't confirm it, as again I'm not enlightened :)
As a retrospect thing... I'm still trying to wrap my head around the decisions that got us here. There seems to be two major goals influencing the Catch invasion.
First, the RP element of Project Deliverence which obviously wasn't nearly as spectacular as the retaliating project retribution on AAA's part. I can't see though, how leaders could think that this was the right course of action, the right timing, or the right target...
The other part of the decision seemed to stem from the fact that Providence was stagnating... Maybe true. But considering all of the good will in the past between the two blocs... I would've done it a lot differently. AAA and CVA in the past have arranged various challenges/skirmishes/etc... If the leaders decided that what we really needed was good exposure to sov warfare and capital engagements, why not open dialogs with AAA about setting up a sandbox... a chunk of Catch that they'd be willing to let be contested under the conditions that it was in good fun and not a threat to their empire... Hell it would've worked in Providence as well and I fear would've gotten even better turnout from the Providence pilots as it would be our home town.
But instead, we pulled a Tortuga...
As much as I love Providence and the NRDS/open-arms nature of the region... No one in their right minds should think that we can go toe to toe with the Catch bloc. We just don't have the military might needed to play in the same ballpark at this time.
Hell, Mercenary Coalition was top tier and they couldn't pull off this move, I do not understand why we are trying it. Agreeing to a cease and desist isn't this huge deal that everyone outside of the two blocs is making it out to be. It benefits both sides...
Ahh well, I'm off to transfer another 50 mil to my corp's wallet (Hate for them to get stuck with a bill for my holding to the first amendment of that great nation from Earth-That-Was.)
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Icarus3
Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.01 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xan Dolran A followup:
It seems that a non posting edict has been sent down from on high in LFA. As my corp is the industrial branch of SMEGI but not actually *IN* LFA I was not aware of this when I made my first post and that caused us to be fined 50 million isk as a result. Sorry guys! (I would never want to do such a thing on accident).
As things stand now in Providence, from a non-enlightened perspective... The lives of many are in the hands of few. As I gather, there's more to just "Stay out of our yard and you can keep your playground." At this point it appears CVA has told AAA to go raindance on a lightning rod, so I see AAA responding with extreme prejudice. However, it appears that AAA might've left options open for holder alliances to work out arrangements with them. Can't confirm it, as again I'm not enlightened :)
As a retrospect thing... I'm still trying to wrap my head around the decisions that got us here. There seems to be two major goals influencing the Catch invasion.
First, the RP element of Project Deliverence which obviously wasn't nearly as spectacular as the retaliating project retribution on AAA's part. I can't see though, how leaders could think that this was the right course of action, the right timing, or the right target...
The other part of the decision seemed to stem from the fact that Providence was stagnating... Maybe true. But considering all of the good will in the past between the two blocs... I would've done it a lot differently. AAA and CVA in the past have arranged various challenges/skirmishes/etc... If the leaders decided that what we really needed was good exposure to sov warfare and capital engagements, why not open dialogs with AAA about setting up a sandbox... a chunk of Catch that they'd be willing to let be contested under the conditions that it was in good fun and not a threat to their empire... Hell it would've worked in Providence as well and I fear would've gotten even better turnout from the Providence pilots as it would be our home town.
But instead, we pulled a Tortuga...
As much as I love Providence and the NRDS/open-arms nature of the region... No one in their right minds should think that we can go toe to toe with the Catch bloc. We just don't have the military might needed to play in the same ballpark at this time.
Hell, Mercenary Coalition was top tier and they couldn't pull off this move, I do not understand why we are trying it. Agreeing to a cease and desist isn't this huge deal that everyone outside of the two blocs is making it out to be. It benefits both sides...
Ahh well, I'm off to transfer another 50 mil to my corp's wallet (Hate for them to get stuck with a bill for my holding to the first amendment of that great nation from Earth-That-Was.)
I never thought I would see the day where a Provi resident spoke his/her mind openly and freely. Surely you have the sense of freedom flowing through your veins. For that alone... I salute you.
Do all providence residents a favor... Don't pay any more fines!
Take your freedom(in all forms) and embrace it!
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Samuel Cole
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.01 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xan Dolran Ahh well, I'm off to transfer another 50 mil to my corp's wallet (Hate for them to get stuck with a bill for my holding to the first amendment of that great nation from Earth-That-Was.)
No one should have their right of self-expression stripped from them. I'm sending you a donation towards your fine, and hope that others do the same.
I understand that you were attracted to CVA because it is NRDS, but it is not the only NRDS entity who would welcome you - Ushra'Khan is NRDS, as is The Star Fraction. If you grow tired of tyranny, gag orders, and foolhardy wars, we would be happy to help you find a new home.
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Xan Dolran
Minmatar Smegnet Corp
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Posted - 2010.02.01 07:21:00 -
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A, thank you for the donation... It was not needed but I am very grateful!
As far as the payment, the only reason I'm making it is so that my friends in Smegnet do not have to bear the burden of my decisions. I'm a believer that I am the only person accountable for my actions.
NRDS is not the sole reason I fly where I do. I fly under my CEO's flag. I've been sailing with this group for several years and will continue to do so as long as I can (barring Gerrin decides to join goons lol, no disprespect to them but they don't play my version of EVE ;) ).
Again, thanks all for response. Fly dangerous everyone! :)
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Manks Girl
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:13:00 -
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*Surrounded by trolls* dont you guys belong in caves?
-A- only really won the fight due to exreme metgaming, knowing pos passwords and form up times. -A- might be a well oiled war machine but when it comes to a straight up fight how come they have to resort to spies on our vent servers and in our fleets? I tell you why, because they arent sure they can beat the proviblok without them.. and resort to primarying all main target callers and fc's. Some think this is acceptable, reminds me of those people that have to cheat, bribe, lie in sports that just cant win without them. I wouldnt be proud of your accomplishments there -A-. i would be ashamed and have no integrity.
You strength yourself on honour, duty. In reality this is folly.
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Mighty Baz
FORSAKEN LEGENDS
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mighty Baz on 01/02/2010 11:31:17
Originally by: Rebnok Burn them all
Harsh words were spoken. Be careful your words might rebel against AAA. Providence is sill loved by most of EvE community, because of individual feature. We followed yours steps. I don't want to be a prophet of your destiny, but history knows very well the similar acts of aggression. It seems many neutral alliances just consider to join CVA and start chasing AAA, permanently. Who knows how long will the war go on?
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Icarus3
Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Manks Girl *Surrounded by trolls* dont you guys belong in caves?
-A- only really won the fight due to exreme metgaming, knowing pos passwords and form up times. -A- might be a well oiled war machine but when it comes to a straight up fight how come they have to resort to spies on our vent servers and in our fleets? I tell you why, because they arent sure they can beat the proviblok without them.. and resort to primarying all main target callers and fc's. Some think this is acceptable, reminds me of those people that have to cheat, bribe, lie in sports that just cant win without them. I wouldnt be proud of your accomplishments there -A-. i would be ashamed and have no integrity.
You strength yourself on honour, duty. In reality this is folly.
All is fair in love and war.
You speak of honor, you speak of fairness, yet you are the exact opposite. You hide behind this mask. You show no corporation nor alliance. You are muzzled, a muzzled creature who lacks individuality.
-A- on the other hand express their rights and freedoms on this very page. I have never flown with them nor do I know any of them personally but for the reasons stated above they have earned my respect.
The worst part about this scenario is that we are now receiving reports that the CVA is now threatening to open fire upon those who have defended their Sov and boosted their economy for years. Attempting to force the innocent into taking part in "their" battles. The CVA asked for this... the neutral providence residents did not.
The CVA can NOT draft that of which they do not "own"
Reclaim your freedom!
Operation Deliverance indeed has it's purpose... to rid providence of it's holders!
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Manks Girl *Surrounded by trolls* dont you guys belong in caves?
-A- only really won the fight due to exreme metgaming, knowing pos passwords and form up times. -A- might be a well oiled war machine but when it comes to a straight up fight how come they have to resort to spies on our vent servers and in our fleets? I tell you why, because they arent sure they can beat the proviblok without them.. and resort to primarying all main target callers and fc's. Some think this is acceptable, reminds me of those people that have to cheat, bribe, lie in sports that just cant win without them. I wouldnt be proud of your accomplishments there -A-. i would be ashamed and have no integrity.
You strength yourself on honour, duty. In reality this is folly.
I fear you live in a utopia that does not exist if you think that CVA and the Provi Bloc do not also use spies and clandestine operatives to gain intel on others movement. Espionage is a part of any war, ask any of the Provi Bloc spies that have sat in on Ushra'Khan comms and fed intel back to CVA in the past.
Killing enemy FC's and target callers first? Hardly a new tactic, it has been around throughout all history and no one is going to stop calling high value targets like this first. I suggest your FC's learn how to delegate and utilise redundancy more effectively.
As for a straight up fight and CVA winning? No. D-G was lost before you entered the field, the question was only how much you would lose by.
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Xan Dolran
Minmatar Smegnet Corp
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Posted - 2010.02.01 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Xan Dolran on 01/02/2010 11:53:55
Originally by: Manks Girl *Surrounded by trolls* dont you guys belong in caves?
-A- only really won the fight due to exreme metgaming, knowing pos passwords and form up times. -A- might be a well oiled war machine but when it comes to a straight up fight how come they have to resort to spies on our vent servers and in our fleets? I tell you why, because they arent sure they can beat the proviblok without them.. and resort to primarying all main target callers and fc's. Some think this is acceptable, reminds me of those people that have to cheat, bribe, lie in sports that just cant win without them. I wouldnt be proud of your accomplishments there -A-. i would be ashamed and have no integrity.
You strength yourself on honour, duty. In reality this is folly.
Meta-gaming doesn't exist... once Vent/TS becomes a part of the game... Spies using those resources are just part of the game as well. If you've got a mole/sleeper inside enemy lines then that's just a resource to tap... There isn't a real nation on this earth that doesn't at least *try* to put spies into organizations of interest... Why's it so taboo in a game?
I truly, really, would like -A- to GTFO of Providence... This is CVA/LFA/Sev/PXF/etc,etc... territory... but talking trash isn't going to help our cause.
Wake up and face the fact that even had we not made the grievous error of jumping fleets in and out... We would've almost certainly been beaten... Based simply on how Providence form-ups are, with multiple alliances having to work together to make the BACKBONE of operations of this magnitude.. Our discipline isn't nearly at the level needed for joint military ops... and I don't know TBH, if the way our leadership set things up can get us far enough up the learning curve to change this. I'm guessing we shall very soon see.
TL,DR: metagaming doesn't really exist (maybe hacking), I hope the Prov situation either IS or settles down to manageable. If we go to war with em Manks, guess it's time to hoist the colors and begin loading guns ;)
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Pradege D'Hallur
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.01 12:23:00 -
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It amazes me how many of you are coming here crying and whining on the forums about the fight in d-g or this campaign in general. Fact of the matter is we would not had been in this situation if CVA and all you providence dwellers had not gone for our space. To all of you crying about pride and saving face. If it were different and we had invaded without cause or provocation i could maybe understand where you were coming from but since that aint the case maybe you all should sit back a look at how we got to this point. You all started this pure and simple.
We dont want providence we just want you all to stay off our turf pure and simple. Seems most of you all lost that point along with all the *****ing and moaning. Aralis has had a proposal brought to him that would get use out of campaign mode and give you back the d-g station, while going back to the normal raiding we used to call fun. Aralis said **** it basically and pretty much has bent Paxton over and has no plans to lube up for the next love session.
If you want to ***** and moan about why we are greifing the **** out providence then aralis is the man to talk to and send all your love mail to at this point.
Regards
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Freya Gleamingstar
Amarr Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Freya Gleamingstar on 01/02/2010 13:00:40 Operation deliverance: a Crusade called in the name of God fueled by the avarice of corrupt men can only be doomed to failure. Many in Providence have and will continue to suffer and die for the pig-headed stubborness of a lofty few.
I would seriously ask those who vehemently fought for the defence of D-G to look at how they were represented by their CVA Lords and Commisarrs. Such stalwart words from them are not represented in the reports of that week, where many Holder Alliances brought many times more to the battle, fought, and died for the indescretions of others. The reports do not lie.
A time of transition is near, with the infinitely generous offer from -A- to kerb the slaughter. A level headed offer that should not be cast aside so lightly by those claiming to speak for the whole of Providence.
Some serious discussion should be made within the Holders; whether they wish to be the ones ordered to march into the fire to preserve someone elses unwavering pride, or to be the ones that collectively can restore some semblance of balance to the Region.
[color=#FF0000]{SGX}<AM> Curmudgeon and Veteran Sabre Rattler[/color]
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 13:09:00 -
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I do wonder how much of Providence will stand with CVA if they are still sticking two fingers up in -a-'s face tomorrow.
Some of the Bloc are in it for the long haul and have fully bought into CVA's campaign of slavery and oppression.... I wonder how many just go along for the simple life and how many of these are interested in other options that don't result in billions in losses and destruction of their player base.....
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Manks Girl
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Posted - 2010.02.01 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pradege D'Hallur It amazes me how many of you are coming here crying and whining on the forums about the fight in d-g or this campaign in general. Fact of the matter is we would not had been in this situation if CVA and all you providence dwellers had not gone for our space. To all of you crying about pride and saving face. If it were different and we had invaded without cause or provocation i could maybe understand where you were coming from but since that aint the case maybe you all should sit back a look at how we got to this point. You all started this pure and simple.
We dont want providence we just want you all to stay off our turf pure and simple. Seems most of you all lost that point along with all the *****ing and moaning. Aralis has had a proposal brought to him that would get use out of campaign mode and give you back the d-g station, while going back to the normal raiding we used to call fun. Aralis said **** it basically and pretty much has bent Paxton over and has no plans to lube up for the next love session.
If you want to ***** and moan about why we are greifing the **** out providence then aralis is the man to talk to and send all your love mail to at this point.
Regards
Infact -A- left those particular systems unclaimed. So in reality it was really fair game. It wasnt *your space* as you so eliquently put it at the time.
But nevertheless was an expected response.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.01 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Manks Girl
Infact -A- left those particular systems unclaimed. So in reality it was really fair game. It wasnt *your space* as you so eliquently put it at the time.
But nevertheless was an expected response.
If you try to read more carefully you'll notice that CVA and -a- had an agreed boundary based on discussion not based on who held what sov.
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kossaw
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.02.01 14:29:00 -
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You can spin the propaganda in a million different ways, but it boils down to some simple facts ......
1. Provibloc and -A- are sparring partners, not natural born enemies 2. When CVA lost Sov due to a malfunction of the CONCORD database, -A- was among the groups who stepped up to help you 3. LFA's leadership have made a stupid decision to try and change the mutualy understood borders of our space 4. -A- have responded to LFA's aggression with a show of force but followed up with an offer to return to the status quo between us
The choice is now up to you. We have made our offer.If you choose to accept then we will welcome the return to our previous happy (ish) relationship which I believe we both benefited from. If not, then -A- will burn Providence to the ground.
We do not ask or expect servitude. You are our respected neighbours. We only ask for the same respect that we have shown you.
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