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Imbosol Norand
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Posted - 2010.01.22 06:29:00 -
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What i want to know is, who the hell needs anything other than low, i do not look at my ship ever, it is covered over with a myriad of other screens and i play the game entirely from the HUD and overview. I dont want to look up the butt of my ship while it flies, i would rather have the interface represent the internals of a ship showing me the readouts of the various sensors and computer screens that would be there at my disposal with the option to look out the window in the rare time i need to fly manually, and that's pretty rare. |
Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Imbosol Norand What i want to know is, who the hell needs anything other than low, i do not look at my ship ever, it is covered over with a myriad of other screens and i play the game entirely from the HUD and overview. I dont want to look up the butt of my ship while it flies, i would rather have the interface represent the internals of a ship showing me the readouts of the various sensors and computer screens that would be there at my disposal with the option to look out the window in the rare time i need to fly manually, and that's pretty rare.
Well, as for the rest of us that arent colorblind or myopic, we appreciate some of the realism that the high shaders provide.
Tell me, how popular would StarWars have been if the special effects were vector graphics?
Immersion is part of the game, and the low shader just doesnt cut it. |
Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Zartanic
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Wouldn't it be logical to do away with "low" and make "medium" the new "low?"
Not while people are still running on a ZX81.
So EVE players either have the latest nuclear powered video cards or a hamster in a a wheel?
Why the extremes?
Exactly which is why it's stupid. I have a decent system yet for some reason EVE is the only one I had shading issues with so I had it at medium.
If they are going to do the graphics they need to be smarter and introduce more options anyway while they are at it. Screwing up mid range and some more advanced cards is not sensible. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:41:00 -
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My computer is three years old. It wasn't highend when I bought it back than and it definitely isn't now. Only upgrade since then was an additional gig RAM to a whopping 2gig. Yet it has no issues with high graphics settings.
I am not sure what kinds of computers you have, but someone must have ripped you off. |
Genya Arikaido
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Posted - 2010.01.22 09:16:00 -
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GeForce GTX 260 runs EVE at ~80fps at 1920x1080, max details. It's not that expensive either. Should last you 1-2 yrs at the rate CCP goes.
GTX 260 @ $190 |
Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.01.22 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Wet Ferret on 22/01/2010 09:35:31
Originally by: Lazarann They said the cost to maintain it was not worth it for the lack of people using it (or something along those lines). Wasn't worth it basically. Simple business decision, it may not be the best as far as some people are concerned but it makes sense.
That's CCP logic if I ever heard it. If so many people aren't using it let's not support it anymore regardless of the reason people aren't using it.
BTW, the sound engine says hi. It's sitting in the garbage bin right next to the medium shaders setting that "nobody" used.
Also BTW, low shaders and high shaders both look like ass. I'm really loving this game right now. It gets to look bad and sound like crap all at once.
*Amarr station environment in high shaders = like sitting in a chimney chute. As if the godawful chanting wasn't torment enough. |
chaosjj
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:02:00 -
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with dominion, my client stopped crashing all the time, i thought i could finnaly enjoy the game, but no... CCP had to remove the medium shaders
BTW: low shaders produce MORE lag then the medium one |
nakKEDK
Gallente Night Riders with AKs
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:59:00 -
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OH Noes.. i bet theres a HUGE difference between medium and low shader model, how will we survive |
Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: nakKEDK OH Noes.. i bet theres a HUGE difference between medium and low shader model, how will we survive
In terms of appearance, yes. Yes there was.
In terms of workload… maybe, or at least so they claim. |
Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zartanic
Exactly which is why it's stupid. I have a decent system yet for some reason EVE is the only one I had shading issues with so I had it at medium.
Pretty much this. Computer is old, but it's a Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz (or thereabouts) with 4GB of memory and an ATI 4850 HD card. I can run plenty of other newer games with good FPS at high settings (e.g, Fallout 3, L4D2, etc).
I would run windowed (1366 x 768) with medium settings and effects turned off because it was a good compromise between looks and performance. Now I either buy a new PC (don't have the cash for that) or I go to low graphics which makes exploration unnecessarily difficult because of shader issues?
If they fix the shader issues, I'll be happy. I'd rather get the medium shaders back so I have a semi-decent looking game, but correcting the exploration graphics issues on low settings will be enough.
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Takeshi Zakharov
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nye Jaran
Originally by: Zartanic
Exactly which is why it's stupid. I have a decent system yet for some reason EVE is the only one I had shading issues with so I had it at medium.
Pretty much this. Computer is old, but it's a Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz (or thereabouts) with 4GB of memory and an ATI 4850 HD card. I can run plenty of other newer games with good FPS at high settings (e.g, Fallout 3, L4D2, etc).
I would run windowed (1366 x 768) with medium settings and effects turned off because it was a good compromise between looks and performance. Now I either buy a new PC (don't have the cash for that) or I go to low graphics which makes exploration unnecessarily difficult because of shader issues?
If they fix the shader issues, I'll be happy. I'd rather get the medium shaders back so I have a semi-decent looking game, but correcting the exploration graphics issues on low settings will be enough.
i play on all high settings with a 4850?
maybe replace your drivers?
4850 can more than handle this game on high settings
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Grytok
Evoke. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:44:00 -
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What are people complaining about? I really can't understand any of your complaints tbh.
My second rig is an Atom 330 with nVidia ION GFX, 2 GB of DDR2 800 and a 2.5" 5400PM HDD and I have no problems running EvE on it at 1280x1024 and all GFX-settings at low. I even take it to the fights, where there's 600 ppl in local either as a CovOps (read: all brackets turned ON!) or as a backup-interdictor or whatever is needed.
Any PC, that's even remotely decent (i.e. built within the last two years) should've no problems with High shader settings, and anything older should not even start to complain about being forced to use low settings, as the problem is on your end in this case.
My main-rig is a Core2Duo E8400 with an ATi 4870 1GB and 4GB of DDR2 800 and there's no problem running EvE on all GFX at high settings (Shadows, Shaders, Textures, LOD, no HDR) @ 1920x1080. And no, there's no overclocking involved or anything fancy like watercooling. It's all stock-parts and clocks.
You people need to stop complaining and get to know your hardware and system-setups, as there's the problems you're searching for in this case.
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basjah
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:01:00 -
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Gotta love my 2x 295GTX + i7 920
I run eve at 1920x1080 @ (without interval 500+fps ) With 4x interval 60fps standard.... even in huge battles..:D
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Aricaan
Profit Union
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:07:00 -
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I havnt seen the high end graphics and play with low settings(could play higher, but would rather have a high frame rate) and I cant complain. I still think eve looks awesome! :P
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Myrkala
Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Bah. Sucks. Still, I wonder when they did the data collection on that, seeing as how I had to downgrade to medium after Dominion was released.
I had to downgrade as well, the game froze for 5-10+sec whenever the game did a session change. (Undocking, docking, initiating warp, dropping out of warp, jumping a gate, arriving through a gate.) Unplayable. -
Thanks CCP, I knew you had it in you! <3 Long live Naglfar! |
Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:34:00 -
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I always used medium on my Linux install for lag reasons. Dual accounting now is like night and day between the 2 pc's. It's like I traveled back in time to fleet up with my character 2 ys ago.
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Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Takeshi Zakharov maybe replace your drivers?
4850 can more than handle this game on high settings
Drivers were last checked around the 27th of December. Can't hurt to check again, I suppose. And it runs 1 client perfectly fine, even at 1920x1080. Knock the res down and run a second account, and the FPS drops dramatically (a fixed 60 fps to 8-12ish), unless I go to interval immediate, which starts to run the graphics card hot.
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Takeshi Zakharov
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Nye Jaran
Originally by: Takeshi Zakharov maybe replace your drivers?
4850 can more than handle this game on high settings
Drivers were last checked around the 27th of December. Can't hurt to check again, I suppose. And it runs 1 client perfectly fine, even at 1920x1080. Knock the res down and run a second account, and the FPS drops dramatically (a fixed 60 fps to 8-12ish), unless I go to interval immediate, which starts to run the graphics card hot.
no idea dude, i run two clients and wow open at the same time no problem?
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:48:00 -
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So they removed this to have less complexity, fine, I understand, so now you will have more time to fix the sound right? Or is this new, and so far not good for anything, sound engine too complex?
Besides that, having no AA makes minmatar stations look like a christmas tree on steroids ! ( not to mention all the other glittering, flickering stuff ! )
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE / EVE Online ( Pre-Dust514 ? ) |
Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:13:00 -
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Keep this thread alive. It is the only way (that I know of) that CCP will HEAR us. Medium shader must come back or the "low" must be improved. ___________________________________________________ ...and the medium shader setting had to go because? |
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Jim Luc
Caldari Free Masons United Inc. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:47:00 -
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Meh, the only time I ever used the medium shader was when I was on location trying to run EvE on my macbook pro.... bad choice as I lost a fully-loaded T2 Raven, and a T2 Drake within 2 weeks because of lag. Now I'm only playing eve on my 3-screen powerhouse at home, and it's much more enjoyable.
On a different note, when are they increasing the texture resolution for battleships and larger??? And DX11! Removing the Medium shader and adding an Ultra-High shader option would be killer
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Checkcheckit
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Posted - 2010.01.22 22:59:00 -
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Oh hai, this thread is still here? Thought it would have been dismissed already.
Protip: Invest in a decent card. I bought mine 5 years ago (ATI MSI x1950) and it's still chugging along gleefully at high settings.
Troll: Petition for a new card
tl;dr: HTFU.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.01.22 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Checkcheckit Oh hai, this thread is still here? Thought it would have been dismissed already.
Protip: Invest in a decent card. I bought mine 5 years ago (ATI MSI x1950) and it's still chugging along gleefully at high settings.
Troll: Petition for a new card
tl;dr: HTFU.
Buy a new card is not a solution. It's like when Vista came out and some XP people couldn't run it. Solution: buy a new computer.
Get out of here. I need to fork out more bucks to get what I had already paid for? I paid a year for EVE, so I think I have some say.
___________________________________________________ ...and the medium shader setting had to go because? |
Swiftgaze
Elysium Holdings Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I paid a year for EVE, so I think I have some say.
XD
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Get out of here. I need to fork out more bucks to get what I had already paid for? I paid a year for EVE, so I think I have some say.
If you can play the game on low settings then you have no say. If you want to play it prettier then you know what you've got to do and whining isnt it.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: brutoid
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Get out of here. I need to fork out more bucks to get what I had already paid for? I paid a year for EVE, so I think I have some say.
If you can play the game on low settings then you have no say. If you want to play it prettier then you know what you've got to do and whining isnt it.
Taking seat in a busy street with a cup and whining may be helping, though. --------
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar Taking seat in a busy street with a cup and whining may be helping, though.
Lol, its true, if he can make just $10 a day then its less than 3 weeks of whining and he can buy that card linked above.
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Drathon Irkar
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Posted - 2010.01.23 00:55:00 -
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What about those of us who are forced to play this on (in my case) a tablet with an integrated graphics card due to college requirements? I can't afford a new PC, I've got tuition to pay, so that won't work. Please bring back the medium shader option CCP.
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something somethingdark
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Posted - 2010.01.23 01:00:00 -
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since dominion 1.1 1 client 80fps 2 clients 11fps
apocrypha over 120fps ?
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.01.23 04:06:00 -
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Allow me to reiterate for the career morons in this thread: my card runs this game on high just fine. It just looks bad. Medium looked the best of the three, with less visual garbage on the screen like the layer of fog in my station (and low is just bland, colorless crap). Without AA most structures look awful from a medium distance as well, which was fine on medium.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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