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Kaigon Jane Caldari LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:17:00 - [61] - Quote sniper!! did i come to quickly as usual
Hubris Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:25:00 - [62] - Quote Originally by: Dianabolic BoB "rose" to power whilst outnumbered and blobbed by the NC. We won. Then we moved to Delve and took on the FA (the next biggest alliance). We won there, too. We took on FIX, they held. Then we took on ASCN (after EC-P8R) and we won, including the first titan kill. What were you saying about how we "rose to power in the first place"? I was doing a radio show a while back and yes the blob was your main tactic then. I said it over and over BOB was a blob. Granted you also had the largest group that could use the newest equipment more xp at the time. But was also the largest battleship blob as well. And back then the battleship was also the uber ship able to do a lot it cannot nowdays. BTW not counting when bob was a new group and couldn't muster many pilots. Its not worth arguing over, its just how eve was and now is again. Blob warfare. Originally by: XoPhyte Tears from PL, NC, Goons et all regarding blobs are the best tears! Perhaps when PL/Goons fall apart and form together again they can form irony overloaded No tears, i have said it for a long long time that eve ends up being blob warfare with out a blob counter. Not sure how facts are now considered tears. I haven't cried about being outnumbered or when we outnumbered IT. Its just how it is in eve. I'm sort of a realist on this subject, but i see you have an issue with it. Originally by: Coranor Your attempt to credit us as the creators of the blob are quite funny mate. Reading someones post before posting helps. I am not sure, as you see i cannot just scroll up and read, but i didnt say bob invented the blob. Just that its been bob's and now IT's main tactic. Nothing new, groups blob each other on a regular basis. I used bob/IT as an example to show how nerfing DD's has returned us to EVE pre area effect DD's. ie: blobbage has a massive advantage without a counter. - uncensored eve discussion and battle reports www.BattleDB.com
Major Raditz Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:26:00 - [63] - Quote Originally by: Kaigon Jane sniper!! did i come to quickly as usual Yes and snipe?
Princess Jodi Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:40:00 - [64] - Quote Originally by: Dianabolic We took on FIX, they held. One of the nicest compliments to FIX I've heard in awhile. Great bunch of guys then.
Coranor Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:41:00 - [65] - Quote Originally by: Hubris Originally by: Coranor Your attempt to credit us as the creators of the blob are quite funny mate. Reading someones post before posting helps. I am not sure, as you see i cannot just scroll up and read, but i didnt say bob invented the blob. Just that its been bob's and now IT's main tactic. Nothing new, groups blob each other on a regular basis. I used bob/IT as an example to show how nerfing DD's has returned us to EVE pre area effect DD's. ie: blobbage has a massive advantage without a counter. Cause i really care so much about the specifics. You whined about us blobbing and i pointed out that you blobbed too. Thats the summary of the last few posts tbh. Now you're assessment of titans being the ultimate anti blob weapon kinda leaves out what happens when the blob has titans too. So blobbing has always had an advantage its nothing new that the side that has the most numbers might shock horror win. You did it to us in delve last time and we came back so quit whining and help put your alliance back together.
Greg DaimYo Caldari Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:42:00 - [66] - Quote Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Hubris DD nerf took out of the game the only answer to the blobs of old EVE. Domination has caused the necro of the blob to its previous power. CCP just turned the clock back to pre DD. Which is why before and after the patch we nicknamed it (mostly inside PL) the F PL patch. None of us were really surprised on the outcome. We relied on DD's to deal with the massive fleets we couldnt counter with numbers alone. Take that away and the blob will control the battlefield once again. Blobs have been done all through EVE's history. IT's return to this strategy is not new and not clever in the least. Its how they rose to power in the first place. I do wonder what CCP will do to release a counter to the blob this time. Right now there isn't one minus Bombers, LOL. Should be interesting. BoB "rose" to power whilst outnumbered and blobbed by the NC. We won. Then we moved to Delve and took on the FA (the next biggest alliance). We won there, too. We took on FIX, they held. Then we took on ASCN (after EC-P8R) and we won, including the first titan kill. What were you saying about how we "rose to power in the first place"? AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh god, this is too much for me. I am currently a part of the Fail-NC and while we manage to lose fleets on a daily basis, there is nothing any attacker can do in the long run. The fricking blob rules everything, no matter if it is labeled NC, IT, Goons, TriCo or whatever. Anyone who thinks different is just suffering from a very selective memory. As long as you manage to get the larger number of people to login, you win (especially after AOE-weapons got nerfed). I am not saying that what you did or claim you did is wrong and/or bad, but it ain't something that was achieved because of anything than superior numbers. That is pretty much all for tonight (I am an uncle as off now and pretty excited), Greg
RevrendStyx Caldari Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:44:00 - [67] - Quote Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Hey Jita camper, I got a fmailiar post for you and your very well informed opinions on 0 sec. NAP TRAIN IT Alliance Aeturnus AAABlack Star Alliance COVEN COW GCAtlasRed Overlord SYS-K Tri Stain If I missed anyone just know that we don't care if you blob and then still whine about ours, we enjoy your hypocrisy and lack of skill immensely Hey now! You forgot the DOT in Aeternus. get it right please or stfu.
Gordo Fartis Caldari 13th Squadron E C L I P S E	Posted - 2010.01.14 23:56:00 - [68] - Quote This discussion about blobbing reminds me of that scene in one of the indiana jones films (dont remember which one) where on the other side of the bridge there is this guy doing samurai tricks with two swords he gets the gun out and shoots it.. en of story. In other words any alliance of group of alliances will do everything possible to win and will not fight fair... end of story Otherwise we should then fight wars by proxy (i.e. torunament) and how boring will that be... I like fleet battles (even with the lag) as well as small gang engagements, they are both fun.
Hubris Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:03:00 - [69] - Quote Originally by: Coranor Originally by: Hubris Originally by: Coranor Your attempt to credit us as the creators of the blob are quite funny mate. Reading someones post before posting helps. I am not sure, as you see i cannot just scroll up and read, but i didnt say bob invented the blob. Just that its been bob's and now IT's main tactic. Nothing new, groups blob each other on a regular basis. I used bob/IT as an example to show how nerfing DD's has returned us to EVE pre area effect DD's. ie: blobbage has a massive advantage without a counter. Cause i really care so much about the specifics. You whined about us blobbing and i pointed out that you blobbed too. Thats the summary of the last few posts tbh. Now you're assessment of titans being the ultimate anti blob weapon kinda leaves out what happens when the blob has titans too. So blobbing has always had an advantage its nothing new that the side that has the most numbers might shock horror win. You did it to us in delve last time and we came back so quit whining and help put your alliance back together. Please learn to read, please. I never whinned about blobbing i said its return has happened and its without a counter. I also spoke about us having titans and using them. I used BOB/IT as an example now and then about advantages of the blob tactic that has not counter. I also said that the titan was a way overpowered counter to the blob. Coranor take a step back then read what someone posts. Then think for a minute before posting. It does help if you want to enter a conversation. Pro tip there buddy, lol...... seriously you and diana are useless to talk to. way too touchy to have a simple back and forth about the game now and pre titans. - uncensored eve discussion and battle reports www.BattleDB.com
Dark Sidhe Minmatar Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:07:00 - [70] - Quote Originally by: Gordo Fartis This discussion about blobbing reminds me of that scene in one of the indiana jones films (dont remember which one) where on the other side of the bridge there is this guy doing samurai tricks with two swords he gets the gun out and shoots it.. en of story. Yep, the first movie, some huge dude showing Indiana his moves in preparation to carve up Indiana-who doesn't have time for that and just shoots the guy in the middle of the market bazaar. Great movie. /back to blob vs. Titan drive-by verus possible IT forays into Delve. ------------------------------- "Back away from the Tatoo Ink"

Pheboe Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:10:00 - [71] - Quote Originally by: Tzujeih itt the difference is we don't have a ridiculous superiority complex or sense of entitlement we suck at this game, we know why we win, we know why we lose i don't think you'll ever see so much crybaby NAPtrain comedy out of us, or such ridiculously, unhealthily bitter posters as you and if IT reclaims delve we know exactly what will happen, posturing, bragging, and edgy molle poasts the likes of which can only be seen via eve-searching bob circa 2004ish u mad? Cuz that's a lot of serious-posting out of such a little Goon.
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:11:00 - [72] - Quote Dear Molle, try to put up a fight for longer than a week this time. love, Goons. -----------------
Dream Raven Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:14:00 - [73] - Quote Originally by: Scatim Helicon Dear Molle, try to put up a fight for longer than a week this time. love, Goons. Dearest Molle Delve is no longer as hot as it used to be. Please do bring the heat. Sincerly Frozen Neckbeards Goons. ~ cute vampress ~
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:16:00 - [74] - Quote Originally by: Scatim Helicon Dear Molle, try to put up a fight for longer than a week this time. love, Goons. Hahahahahah PL Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
Sinwagon Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:34:00 - [75] - Quote Originally by: White Tree Grrrrr, I hate my life. It's ok emo-kid, someday you'll meet other people like yourself when you realize there are stairs out of your grandma's basement. Originally by: White Tree i too am gay While true, it wasn't under debate. And again, refer to my first statement.
Itzena Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:42:00 - [76] - Quote Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Scatim Helicon Dear Molle, try to put up a fight for longer than a week this time. love, Goons. Hahahahahah PL Wait, you're expecting us to board-warrior for PL or something?
Neborov2 Amarr Deliveries	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:44:00 - [77] - Quote Originally by: White Tree i don't understand how you braindead pubbie mongoloids still think you can 'defeat' goonswarm in the sense that you muppets constantly drone on about, showering CAOD with your endless ass blood because they've crippled your internet honor. this place is like GBS in space. And this poast reads: WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:52:00 - [78] - Quote Originally by: Hubris I was doing a radio show a while back and yes the blob was your main tactic then. I said it over and over BOB was a blob. Granted you also had the largest group that could use the newest equipment more xp at the time. But was also the largest battleship blob as well. And back then the battleship was also the uber ship able to do a lot it cannot nowdays. BTW not counting when bob was a new group and couldn't muster many pilots. Its not worth arguing over, its just how eve was and now is again. Blob warfare. You almost got it Hubris. BoB rose to power not by blob tactics but rather by using the advantages that high SP characters had. We could engage fleets much larger than ours because we could out-range and good tactics allowed us to pick of fleets whilst taking only minimal return fire. That is when we used to be called "Elitist", because we had high minimum requirements and expected members to be able to fly the ship setups which maximized our advantages. As time passed everyone could hop in to a T2 fitted BS, and the range advantage was gone. There was no new advantage to having higher SP characters, and so eventually (with the exception of titans) they only way to fight a blob was to become a blob. That really began to be the case after the end of BoB vs ASCN war. To say BoB rose to power through the use of blob tactics is inaccurate, but I agree that eventually (because of the leveling of the playingfield) the only way to fight a blob was either to equal it or DD it. Elitism just doesn't work in Eve as it stands (and maybe that isn't a bad thing). アニメ漫画です
Dianabolic Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:56:00 - [79] - Quote Damn you, Avon!
Ethan Hunte Gallente Ninjas With Frikkin StarShips	Posted - 2010.01.15 00:59:00 - [80] - Quote third page and only 2 goon posts. yup dead. the greatest poster ever

Tzujeih Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:10:00 - [81] - Quote Originally by: Pheboe u mad? Cuz that's a lot of serious-posting out of such a little Goon. ****, wrong character.
thearrowofapollo Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:12:00 - [82] - Quote good read to be honest but hell D3 here we come !!!!
Zyck Gallente Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:15:00 - [83] - Quote Originally by: Dark Sidhe Originally by: Gordo Fartis This discussion about blobbing reminds me of that scene in one of the indiana jones films (dont remember which one) where on the other side of the bridge there is this guy doing samurai tricks with two swords he gets the gun out and shoots it.. en of story. Yep, the first movie, some huge dude showing Indiana his moves in preparation to carve up Indiana-who doesn't have time for that and just shoots the guy in the middle of the market bazaar. Great movie. Funny thing about that scene is there was originally meant to be a big fight there. But Harrison Ford had gotten dysentery and would've **** his pants if he had to do. So he asked Spielberg why not just shoot the guy. And hence a classic was born.
laotse Gallente The Flying Dutchmen	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:25:00 - [84] - Quote bob it all the same ****
Tobruk Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:31:00 - [85] - Quote Quote: I'm calling it now, Goons will dominate 0.0 politics and most of EVE sov within 1-year of the release of DUST 514. Quote: am going to have to step in here to correct this: GoonSwarm is the new BoB. Quote: PL/MM/RZ are taking select areas strategically so that when the opportunity arises they can finally kick their "Pet" Goontards to the side Quote: As it stands now Goons`.your pet PL was castrated by the Titan nerf ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
enjoi Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 01:32:00 - [86] - Quote hahahahahahahahahaha just sayin' lmao Real men structure tank.
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.15 02:17:00 - [87] - Quote Originally by: Snot Shot We were promised great things by Goons if BoB, which brought war to most regions of EVE No you weren't
Anope Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.01.15 03:43:00 - [88] - Quote Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Hey Jita camper, I got a fmailiar post for you and your very well informed opinions on 0 sec. NAP TRAIN IT Alliance Aeturnus AAABlack Star Alliance COVEN COW GCAtlasRed Overlord SYS-K Tri Stain If I missed anyone just know that we don't care if you blob and then still whine about ours, we enjoy your hypocrisy and lack of skill immensely Oh thats how it is? I thought it was 1.) ZAF/Goon/PL/SOT (and co.) VS IT/HUN/BLADE (and co.) 2.) CVA/LF/PXT/BRCK/SEV3RANCE (and co.) VS AAA/UK/Sys-K/Coven (and co.) 3.) RZR/LT/MH/MM/ME/WI/RAGE (and co.) VS TRI/COW/EVOKE/ROL/INIT/SOLAR (and co.) Is it really so hard to see the difference? The fighting is happening on 3-4 different fronts. This is very different then how NCgoonSPLOT operate, which is all fighting on one front. Remember Trisurgency vs how many NC alliances?
Darth Syphils Amarr Noshikkan	Posted - 2010.01.15 05:04:00 - [89] - Quote Originally by: Hubris DD nerf took out of the game the only answer to the blobs of old EVE. Domination has caused the necro of the blob to its previous power. CCP just turned the clock back to pre DD. Which is why before and after the patch we nicknamed it (mostly inside PL) the F PL patch. None of us were really surprised on the outcome. We relied on DD's to deal with the massive fleets we couldnt counter with numbers alone. Take that away and the blob will control the battlefield once again. Blobs have been done all through EVE's history. IT's return to this strategy is not new and not clever in the least. Its how they rose to power in the first place. I do wonder what CCP will do to release a counter to the blob this time. Right now there isn't one minus Bombers, LOL. Should be interesting. I am not trying to troll you bro but I seem to remember after someone clicked a disband button your alliance spearheaded the largest "BLOB" in eve history attacking space that was very hard to defend due to sov mechanics. That is all good but we all also had to read hundreds of chest beating posts from your alliance M8's about how terrible BOB was while your alliance was doing exactly what your complaining about now, blobbing. The only difference is that at the start of the fountain campaign numbers were pretty even and no one 1 click killed your sov defenses. As for the titans, blob warfare has turned into cap blob warfare. I think CCP's intent was to turn the titans into anti cap blobs opposed to using them to kill a 12 man inty gang or ruin a good night of fleet fights for hundreds of people with the click of a button. I am not saying it was a good move but that's another forum. Anyhow good luck.
VonKaplanek III Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.15 05:09:00 - [90] - Quote Edited by: VonKaplanek III on 15/01/2010 05:11:34 I love how wonderfully cyclic this game can be. We said goons will never build up in 0.0 again and they did and they said we would never build up in 0.0 again and we have and........ I suspect when (if) we manage to cement our position in 0.0 we will **** off enough people that they will mass together to have a go at us again. But this time it will be different. You will not be able to one click disolve an alliance. Unlike PL I am fully confident in saying that you will burn out going system by system taking this or any space from us. Oh and speaking about cyclic, doen't anyone see that it is ccp controlling our game. They nerfed remote dd and that changed the tide in 46dp and now they nerfed aoe and it changed the tide in Fountain Core. Seems that everytime CCP wants to reinvent excitement in eve they change the way titans are used and abused. just my 2 cents

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