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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 11/01/2010 15:54:33 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 11/01/2010 15:54:11 Approximately 72 hours ago, State Protectorate forces, spearheaded by Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United put the control bunkers of solar systems Jovainnon, Vifrevaert and Old Man Star into state of vulnerability.
While control bunkers of Jovainnon and Vifrevaert were taken quickly by forces belonging to State Protectorate, Old Man Star was kept vulnerable over the weekend.
This achieved the strategic goals of State Protectorate by humiliating Federal Defence Union in numerous engagements where they lost against smaller but better equipped and coordinated fleets of the PERVS.
As expected, valiant efforts were put forth by FDU to reverse the state of vulnerability in Old Man Star but to no avail as PERVS were able to defeat FDU in all battles over warfare complexes.
Today, fleet consisting members of State Protectorate, PERVS, Pillow Fighters, War-Team, Costolle Military Assistance Corporation and Intaki Militia finally destroyed the control bunker in Old Man Star. Gallente commander admitted defeat in communication with PERVS fleet commander and no resistance was encountered by State's forces.
Thus, entire Essence region has again been occupied by Caldari forces.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Bootius McGee
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:11:00 -
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So, tell us again how that afk plexing works?
Did you guys use the old, but tested and true method of running away from the NPC rats until the timer expired, or the new and improved version of getting sufficient standings so that the NPC rats just ignore you completely while enjoing a short nap awaiting the timer expiry?
Perhaps a combination of both?
FW won't become "interesting" until the capturing of a plex consists of killing all of the NPC units in the plex.
Broken system is broken. Not your fault, of course, but it is what it is.
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:42:00 -
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Congrats to pervs.
Who showed the big mouthed idiots in Gallente who sprouted such crap about "working real hard together" to re-capture those systems in some back water places. Who Laughed at WOLFY who said "we still don't care, but when pervs come back they will just take the systems back".
and guess what you did. No shock at all.
However to not rub you too much in one way.
Still means nothing, always has.. and looks like always will
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Useless trolling
Said the guy whose corp, despite having the numbers and the timezone coverage, provided absolutely no help towards plexing for the six months in which we were trying to reclaim those systems, insisting that, against ALL evidence, "FW is just PvP", electing instead to constantly lose ships on the Nourv gate in Tama as if camping one entrance to Caldari space was actually going to change anything.
Just shut the **** up. -----
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BacardiDesire
Caldari The 8th Order
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: BacardiDesire on 11/01/2010 17:00:06
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Useless trolling
Said the guy whose corp, despite having the numbers and the timezone coverage, provided absolutely no help towards plexing for the six months in which we were trying to reclaim those systems, insisting that, against ALL evidence, "FW is just PvP", electing instead to constantly lose ships on the Nourv gate in Tama as if camping one entrance to Caldari space was actually going to change anything.
Just shut the **** up.
tbh, have you ever seen a usefull evil synss post in Warfare in tactics, apart from the chestbeating, trolling replies or ''see how awesome we are on a killboard'' threads?
guess not but i heard they are increasingly getting good in losing allot of faction battleships these days with their pirate friends in amamake :)
oh yeah, nice job pervs, lolled a bit to see oms vurnable for 3 days all i want is some cake. |
Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:01:00 -
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Against Star Fraction, of all people. And, of all the people in the world, they're associating with my old friend MirrorGod, as well - which disappoints me, I always thought he had far better taste. -----
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bootius McGee So, tell us again how that afk plexing works?
Did you guys use the old, but tested and true method of running away from the NPC rats until the timer expired, or the new and improved version of getting sufficient standings so that the NPC rats just ignore you completely while enjoing a short nap awaiting the timer expiry?
Perhaps a combination of both?
FW won't become "interesting" until the capturing of a plex consists of killing all of the NPC units in the plex.
Broken system is broken. Not your fault, of course, but it is what it is.
Recapturing essence for Caldari was made purely legit and non lame ways, no speed tanking, no standing exploits, no self running plexes etc. Almost all NPC was destroyed on every complex. Only thing was that most of plexes were taken just after downtime, but as those spawn after dt there is not much other options.
Fightning for plexes and for bunkers were really fun and all can be happy that gallente managed to take those systems earlier back and made them defence again.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:06:00 -
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Well done PERVS (and Damar, and Damar's alts (Yuri), and Damar's alt's alts ;) ), well done.
Pretty impressive sniper plexing fleet you had there this weekend.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 11/01/2010 17:18:03 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 11/01/2010 17:15:25 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 11/01/2010 17:14:32 Some of the moments from our "Let's keep OMS vulnerable for three days" operation:
Sunday's bunker fight or Visitors 25, Home team 1
Saturdays bunker fight or thrasher died later to sniper Apoc...
Saturday night fever aka medium plex spawns in middle of night and gives gallente last chance to save OMS
Last but not least, minor plex which returned OMS to vulnerable as Gallentes did manage to get it back to contested at one time.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Zetler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:14:00 -
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o/ Andreus
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Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:19:00 -
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Yup, Congrats to the Pervs and friends - See you eventually took OMS, must be a record length of time for a system to be vulnerable!
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger Only thing was that most of plexes were taken just after downtime, but as those spawn after dt there is not much other options.
And of course, you're well known for opposing any change to the DT plex shuffle. -----
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane And of course, you're well known for opposing any change to the DT plex shuffle.
To be fair the Gallente have capped systems almost exclusively when PERVS have been off line during USTZ. Weird 12 hour out of phase plexing war... Both sides know how to take advantage of mechanics. PERVS are just more committed to doing it right now.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:36:00 -
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You know full well that the advantage of being on just after DT (which is when I'm usually available, you should try it sometime) far exceeds that of being online during USTZ. They fiercely oppose removal of the DT shuffle because it would screw up their battleplan. Stop giving them credit they do not deserve. -----
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Michael Mena
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Posted - 2010.01.11 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 I Don't want to be rude, but I just want to point out a few things.
1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme. 2, On all the killmails you are at the bottom with your stupid caracal. 3, Only needed the 2 macheriels, the 2 harbingers and the hurricane to win the fights. 4, Mayby go to 0.0 and see how far you get there? 5, Capturing territories means nothing, 90% of the gallante militia doesn't even care nor they care to defend it. 6, Stop bragging about nothing.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.11 18:57:00 -
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LoLFW Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Congrats to pervs.
Who showed the big mouthed idiots in Gallente who sprouted such crap about "working real hard together" to re-capture those systems in some back water places. Who Laughed at WOLFY who said "we still don't care, but when pervs come back they will just take the systems back".
and guess what you did. No shock at all.
However to not rub you too much in one way.
Still means nothing, always has.. and looks like always will
Wtf are you commenting for? You left FW and went and camped gates elsewhere. At least have the decency to become irrelevant and remain quiet while doing so. |
Lilith Velkor
Minmatar Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Against Star Fraction, of all people.
Yes, we clearly should have beaten their 44 BS with our 12, shows what terrible pvpers we are.
I know this is a strange concept for FW, but some people engage even if they havent the advantage in numbers and might actually lose.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Mena Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme. 2, On all the killmails you are at the bottom with your stupid caracal. 6, Stop bragging about nothing.
1. Untrue. As i've said repeatedly, we take trustworthy plexers to our fleets such as Blaze Doran (And he did splendid job in one of the bunker fights) who can be trusted and who have shown they are willing to do the ungrateful plexing work.
It's our little way of rewarding them. PERVS is not a slot machine which every random guy can put a coin in and ask to be entertained. And yes, I do relay commands in english in such case when we have plexers in our fleets.
2: Untrue, sometimes i'm on the bottom with with my stupid drake.
6. But still you wanted me to x you to fleet?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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olzi
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Mena 1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme.
Now now, some of my best friends are black swedish multilingual.
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Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Struyk on 11/01/2010 19:45:29
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Michael Mena Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme. 2, On all the killmails you are at the bottom with your stupid caracal. 6, Stop bragging about nothing.
1. Untrue. As i've said repeatedly, we take trustworthy plexers to our fleets such as Blaze Doran (And he did splendid job in one of the bunker fights) who can be trusted and who have shown they are willing to do the ungrateful plexing work.
It's our little way of rewarding them. PERVS is not a slot machine which every random guy can put a coin in and ask to be entertained. And yes, I do relay commands in english in such case when we have plexers in our fleets.
2: Untrue, sometimes i'm on the bottom with with my stupid drake.
6. But still you wanted me to x you to fleet?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
1. How can people prove they are trustworthy if they can never proof themselves?
2. That's just sad
6. Sure, especially now I'm back in nme1 now :)
PS; Michael here, no idea why it uses my noob chat now lol
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Ralnik
Mutineers
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ralnik on 11/01/2010 19:57:44
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Useless trolling
Said the guy whose corp, despite having the numbers and the timezone coverage, provided absolutely no help towards plexing for the six months in which we were trying to reclaim those systems, insisting that, against ALL evidence, "FW is just PvP", electing instead to constantly lose ships on the Nourv gate in Tama as if camping one entrance to Caldari space was actually going to change anything.
Just shut the **** up.
It's hard to do anything useful when all you do is sit on a gate camp all day. The crews get fat and lazy then next thing you knew they can barely run off to a station when something scary comes in...
...but hey, look at the kill stats. It's obviously l33t PVP they are doing shooting noobs on a high sec gate.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Struyk 1. How can people prove they are trustworthy if they can never proof themselves?
If they are "out there" doing the good work we will find them eventually, talk to them and bring them to the fold. It's not a fast process by any means.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Struyk 1. How can people prove they are trustworthy if they can never proof themselves?
If they are "out there" doing the good work we will find them eventually, talk to them and bring them to the fold. It's not a fast process by any means.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Sorry but they can't do the good work "out there" without a fleet, try again.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Struyk
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Struyk 1. How can people prove they are trustworthy if they can never proof themselves?
If they are "out there" doing the good work we will find them eventually, talk to them and bring them to the fold. It's not a fast process by any means.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Sorry but they can't do the good work "out there" without a fleet, try again.
Some people can, and those are usually welcome to our fleets
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Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Struyk
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Struyk 1. How can people prove they are trustworthy if they can never proof themselves?
If they are "out there" doing the good work we will find them eventually, talk to them and bring them to the fold. It's not a fast process by any means.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Sorry but they can't do the good work "out there" without a fleet, try again.
You CAN'T do the good work "out there" without a fleet, mainly because galls never fly alone. Some people can, and those are usually welcome to our fleets
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:56:00 -
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I actually know people who have been in PERVS, and some who have been associated with you, and they have made it very clear no-one gets into PERVS without speaking excellent Finnish, partly because some of you, such as Kuolematon, don't speak English very well (Bad Messenger being a more obvious example of this). But of course, you were just being ironic, right? -----
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane and they have made it very clear no-one gets into PERVS without speaking excellent Finnish, partly because some of you, such as Kuolematon, don't speak English very well (Bad Messenger being a more obvious example of this). But of course, you were just being ironic, right?
Correct. Unless you speak Finnish, you have no hope of joining PERVS. However, as said above, we take good people to our fleets and relay commands to them because unlike many in Eve, I have a pretty good grasp of spoken english.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Zetler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane I actually know people who have been in PERVS, and some who have been associated with you, and they have made it very clear no-one gets into PERVS without speaking excellent Finnish, partly because some of you, such as Kuolematon, don't speak English very well (Bad Messenger being a more obvious example of this). But of course, you were just being ironic, right?
For joining PERVS(corp) u need to know Finnish (excellent Finnish is not required and all our members are not from Finland). For joinin our FLEETS u dont need to know Finnish.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:12:00 -
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So, you were being ironic. Thanks for the clarification. -----
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Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Struyk on 11/01/2010 21:33:44 Sorry I wasn't being ironic as I wasn't talking about the corp but about the militia fleet. Only pervs and some random people who speak finnish may join it. All those excuses about english people who proven themselves is bull****, any random guy who speaks finnish may join it. I'm not the only guy who wasn't allowed to join because I didn't speak Finnish, and that was before you found out I'm being a jerk to you.
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Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:50:00 -
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Congratulations on a job well done. We clearly aren't as committed to the plexing effort as you guys are. However...
The resistance lives on. Endurecete cabr=n! |
Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Struyk Edited by: Struyk on 11/01/2010 21:33:44 Sorry I wasn't being ironic as I wasn't talking about the corp but about the militia fleet. Only pervs and some random people who speak finnish may join it. All those excuses about english people who proven themselves is bull****, any random guy who speaks finnish may join it. I'm not the only guy who wasn't allowed to join because I didn't speak Finnish, and that was before you found out I'm being a jerk to you.
I wouldn't worry yourself too much. PERVS are well known for their tendency towards compulsive lying. |
Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:31:00 -
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Yeah just ask damar how many alts and spies he has XD
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:35:00 -
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I was more referring to the fact that PERVS repeatedly make promises that they break, and then deny breaking them. -----
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:42:00 -
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Noob question:
Is it a requirement to be completely intolerable, pointlessly contentious and entirely without a sense of humor to join Gallente/Caldari FW?
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney Noob question:
Is it a requirement to be completely intolerable, pointlessly contentious and entirely without a sense of humor to join Gallente/Caldari FW?
No, but it helps. -----
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TooNu
Caldari Nefarious Activities General Panic.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Mena Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 I Don't want to be rude, but I just want to point out a few things.
1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme.
I don't want to be rude, but you are very wrong here. The PERVs are always inviting the regular plexing groups to their fleets to co-ordinate better, they may not chat too much in English/Swedish but they do invite and they are friendly enough to do just that.
GJ Damar and GJ PERVs |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:46:00 -
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Congratulations.
A fool like you Damar has finally found a home with a bunch of cowards, you were made for eachother.
Re: OMS - Its a shame, but occupancy is of little consequence. I personally would rather let you take occupancy of all the FW systems, just to see how you would spend your hours then?
Perhaps the Caldari might even put a PVP fleet out? Nah, crazy thought.
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Super Chair
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Congratulations.
A fool like you Damar has finally found a home with a bunch of cowards, you were made for eachother.
Re: OMS - Its a shame, but occupancy is of little consequence. I personally would rather let you take occupancy of all the FW systems, just to see how you would spend your hours then?
Perhaps the Caldari might even put a PVP fleet out? Nah, crazy thought.
If I recall the only way to get a fight this morning was to go to villore.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I personally would rather let you take occupancy of all the FW systems
Do you mind sodding off to whatever hole WOLFY crawled into? Your view of FW isn't helping the Gallente situation either. -----
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Dr Deadbolt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion I have a pretty good grasp of spoken english.
so why on fleet coms do you sound like a 12 year old boy thats been donkey punched too many times ?
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Struyk
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: TooNu
Originally by: Michael Mena Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 I Don't want to be rude, but I just want to point out a few things.
1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme.
I don't want to be rude, but you are very wrong here. The PERVs are always inviting the regular plexing groups to their fleets to co-ordinate better, they may not chat too much in English/Swedish but they do invite and they are friendly enough to do just that.
GJ Damar and GJ PERVs
Not another Damar alt..
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: Vyktor Abyss I personally would rather let you take occupancy of all the FW systems
Do you mind sodding off to whatever hole WOLFY crawled into? Your view of FW isn't helping the Gallente situation either.
oh the anger ... did we touch you? u mad? Is your corps stated goal of retaking systems falling flat in your face?
The last thread about OMS had 2 posts, WOLFY post once and 2 PAGES! \0/
You guys should relax. Take it easy and just admit that Pervs are better at plexing, want it more, do more about it, have the advantage and are just better than you!
If you can't admit to that.. then you really have problems.
I just posted here cause when the systems got recaptured I stated "Pervs will come back" and you all said "no problem, they can't undo what we did"... AND THEY HAVE.
And don't you worry your sweet little head about our killboard. Its our goal to be a PvP corp in eve, yours is to take systems...
hows that working out for you x
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Mena Edited by: Michael Mena on 11/01/2010 18:55:08 I Don't want to be rude, but I just want to point out a few things.
1, Your a racist, no fleet invite unless you speak Finnish is pure racisme. 2, On all the killmails you are at the bottom with your stupid caracal. 3, Only needed the 2 macheriels, the 2 harbingers and the hurricane to win the fights. 4, Mayby go to 0.0 and see how far you get there? 5, Capturing territories means nothing, 90% of the gallante militia doesn't even care nor they care to defend it. 6, Stop bragging about nothing.
1. OUTRAGEOUS! I will report this stupid corporation to CCP and make sure EVERYONE involved will get banned! I mean, demanding that people who join speaks Finnish in order to ensure clear channel of comms! (Or fact that Bad Messenger is total ****head when it comes to English .. aka. he doesn't speak it)
2. OUTRAGEOUS! I will report this stupid ship to CCP and make sure NOONE ever uses caracal again!
3. OUTRAGEOUS! I will report this faction ship nberness to CCP and make sure THEY GET NERFFED! Oh and NERF AMARR!
4. OUTRAGEOUS! I will report this 0.0 space to CCP and make sure THEY FIX IT TO BE EASIER! And make sure there is some kind of mechanic involving to capture this space, perhaps some PLEX or CONTROL POINT.
5. OUTRAGEOUS! I will report this worthless FW mechanic to CCP and make sure THAT NO GALLENTE WILL EVER HAVE TO CARE FOR THEIR TERRATORY!
6. OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!! I WILL REPORT THIS PERSON TO CCP AND MAKE SURE HE WILL NEVER HAVE KIDS AND HIS GENEPOOL IS WASHED DOWN FROM EARTH! Oh wait, I'm 12 years too late!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Death on 12/01/2010 11:06:43
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: Struyk Edited by: Struyk on 11/01/2010 21:33:44 Sorry I wasn't being ironic as I wasn't talking about the corp but about the militia fleet. Only pervs and some random people who speak finnish may join it. All those excuses about english people who proven themselves is bull****, any random guy who speaks finnish may join it. I'm not the only guy who wasn't allowed to join because I didn't speak Finnish, and that was before you found out I'm being a jerk to you.
I wouldn't worry yourself too much. PERVS are well known for their tendency towards compulsive lying.
Hi, I'm from Wolverhampton, England. I speak English, a tiny bit of French (Je voudrais un pomme de terre!) and an even smaller amount of Korean (Cheesu rammen hannoyo!). So I guess I'll never get accepted into a PERVs fleet because I fly solo and in crap fitted ships and don't speak Finnish whatsoever.
Oh wait...
Originally by: Dr Deadbolt so why on fleet coms do you sound like a 12 year old boy thats been donkey punched too many times ?
How would you know? Are you from Finland? PERVs only fleet with people from Finland. Andreus LeHane said so. It must be true.
Originally by: Vyktor Abyss
Perhaps the Caldari might even put a PVP fleet out? Nah, crazy thought.
Yes, I think it's disgusting that when you warp your fleet to the bunker it instantly switches to the secret PvE server and no-one is allowed to shoot at you. We should all instead be teleported to the Nourv/Tama gate as soon as we log on so that we can PvP properly.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Death So I guess I'll never get accepted into a PERVs fleet because I fly solo and in crap fitted ships and don't speak Finnish whatsoever.
Oh wait...
Apologies to Mr. Death, I missed Hyasyoda corporation from the press release. Glad to have you on bunker with us.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Vincent Death So I guess I'll never get accepted into a PERVs fleet because I fly solo and in crap fitted ships and don't speak Finnish whatsoever.
Oh wait...
Apologies to Mr. Death, I missed Hyasyoda corporation from the press release. Glad to have you on bunker with us.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Ja kaikki mitS piti tehdS, jotta herSttSS oli viettSS kuusi kuukautta Suomen kielen opiskelu!
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente VA Holding Void Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Rayo Congratulations on a job well done. We clearly aren't as committed to the plexing effort as you guys are. However...
The resistance lives on.
Viva La Resistance ! Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie ROTDK is recruiting
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:51:00 -
[50]
I am confirming Pervs are nice chaps (despite being Finish ;) ) IBS participated on ops in the area a bit and was able to cooperate with them.
Underline: And yes being humorless moron is prerequisite to be virtual French (ie Gallente).
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Bunzan Cardinal
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Emergence.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:56:00 -
[51]
great now just need gallente FW corps to leave heyd and we can go back to the way things were 3 months ago.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.12 12:06:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Vincent Death Ja kaikki mitS piti tehdS, jotta herSttSS oli viettSS kuusi kuukautta Suomen kielen opiskelu!
Not quite right but keep practicing
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Hussain
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.01.12 14:57:00 -
[53]
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Congrats to pervs.
Who showed the big mouthed idiots in Gallente who sprouted such crap about "working real hard together" to re-capture those systems in some back water places. Who Laughed at WOLFY who said "we still don't care, but when pervs come back they will just take the systems back".
and guess what you did. No shock at all.
However to not rub you too much in one way.
Still means nothing, always has.. and looks like always will
Congratz to the PERVS ? OF course they do make serious efforts in FW.
But can someone please, honestly explain to me who are this mythical WOLFY guys ?
You see I did was there all the way to the last one when we were loosing systems after systems to the caldari, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there in the long months trying to re-capture one system, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there when we started to get systems back, there was some PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there right after DT trying to defend OMS and Vifrevaert when they went vulnerable, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there trying to bring OMS and Vifrevaert back to our control and defend the bunkers, well I think by now you know how it goes... there was ALL of PERVS there but not a single WOLFY.
So who are this WOLFY guys?
How they dont seem to be arround when PERVS are in for serious business ?
I understand they dont care for this plexing and system control stuff, but somehow EVIL SYNNs always post something badmouthing the Federation fighting forces in posts regarding that issue, why ?
Do you think you are missed in the Federation Militia ?
Things started to get hot for FDU the first time arround WOLFY sorta of dissapeared, WOLFY was a part of MDP until it got hot and so they left... and now just looking at WOLFY kill board for the last month, tens maybe a hundered Gallente and Minammatar militia kills not a single Caldari.
How do you have the nerve of saying anything against the Federation Milita ?
You were always self-promoting pirate scum, nothing more nothing less.
PS: I know my best efforts pale in comparison to others in FDU, but at least I do try to make something positive.
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2010.01.12 16:03:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Hussain
Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Congrats to pervs.
Who showed the big mouthed idiots in Gallente who sprouted such crap about "working real hard together" to re-capture those systems in some back water places. Who Laughed at WOLFY who said "we still don't care, but when pervs come back they will just take the systems back".
and guess what you did. No shock at all.
However to not rub you too much in one way.
Still means nothing, always has.. and looks like always will
Congratz to the PERVS ? OF course they do make serious efforts in FW.
But can someone please, honestly explain to me who are this mythical WOLFY guys ?
You see I did was there all the way to the last one when we were loosing systems after systems to the caldari, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there in the long months trying to re-capture one system, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there when we started to get systems back, there was some PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there right after DT trying to defend OMS and Vifrevaert when they went vulnerable, there was lots of PERVS but not a WOLFY.
I was there trying to bring OMS and Vifrevaert back to our control and defend the bunkers, well I think by now you know how it goes... there was ALL of PERVS there but not a single WOLFY.
So who are this WOLFY guys?
How they dont seem to be arround when PERVS are in for serious business ?
I understand they dont care for this plexing and system control stuff, but somehow EVIL SYNNs always post something badmouthing the Federation fighting forces in posts regarding that issue, why ?
Do you think you are missed in the Federation Militia ?
Things started to get hot for FDU the first time arround WOLFY sorta of dissapeared, WOLFY was a part of MDP until it got hot and so they left... and now just looking at WOLFY kill board for the last month, tens maybe a hundered Gallente and Minammatar militia kills not a single Caldari.
How do you have the nerve of saying anything against the Federation Milita ?
You were always self-promoting pirate scum, nothing more nothing less.
PS: I know my best efforts pale in comparison to others in FDU, but at least I do try to make something positive.
Calm down dear, its only a forum.
I think you need to learn reading, maybe before writing. But before you hit REPLY, read on...
I am abusing those that came on this very forum and gloated about taking systems when Pervs were away doing their FAILed haxx'ed fleet stuff in Minmatar space. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1232988
I have many friends in the gallente, many many pilots who I admire and salute. Those that plex I have NOTHING but admiration for, nothing but love and respect. Yes WOLFY didn't plex much, if at all we always stated it was not our bag.
So I AM NOT ABUSING ANYONE WHO PLEXES... THOSE THAT GLOATED AND THREW ABUSES AT PERVS AND HOW UBER THEY ARE TAKING THE SYSTEMS BACK Thats the people I posted against.
Those that came here to say HEY WE ARE UBER I'm sorry to say Pervs have shown you that your not even good in the plexing department.
As for who WOLFY are young person, I think if you ask around people will tell you. Every time we leave caldari come out of their hole when we come back they slink back into Nourv and wait it out.
Pervs are Finnish and we are mostly UK/US so our timezones never crossed much. They murdered us one night in a plex in Nenn (we didn't know the rats were so nasty) but that was our only engagement with them. We've ganked a few of them, them a few of us.
tl;dr I'm only flinging S.H** at those that gloated about taking systems back, who abused pervs and who said even if pervs came back it wouldn't be a concern. Those guys were fools then, fools now.. and likely fools for ever.
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Cearain
Caldari ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.12 16:35:00 -
[55]
Why do you guys plex so much?
No this is not a troll. I really wonder. If you want pvp don't you find more of it by doing roams? If you want to do pve aren't missions more fun? They at least provide some reward. The actual activity of shooting npcs seems the same in missions or plexes.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Overdogs
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Posted - 2010.01.12 16:41:00 -
[56]
Wolfy... zzzzZZZZzz
Victor... zzzzZZZZzzz
PERVS.... GJ
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NobodyHolme
Gallente Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:21:00 -
[57]
Edited by: NobodyHolme on 12/01/2010 17:22:08
Originally by: Hidden Snake I am confirming Pervs are nice chaps (despite being Finish ;) ) IBS participated on ops in the area a bit and was able to cooperate with them.
Underline: And yes being humorless moron is prerequisite to be virtual French (ie Gallente).
Oi!
Some of the PERVS are jerks too...
Yeah, anyway, some of us virtual french are human. You clearly never met Bacardi. (I'd name more people, but I CBA)
Oh, and you cowards wouldnt engage me until all the enemy milita died, even though I was red flashy to the lot of ye. I call exploit, etc, etc, etc, whine whine whine. Because I can. |
Printer Jam
Printer Repair and Maintenance Specialists
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Posted - 2010.01.12 18:31:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Cearain Why do you guys plex so much?
No this is not a troll. I really wonder. If you want pvp don't you find more of it by doing roams? If you want to do pve aren't missions more fun? They at least provide some reward. The actual activity of shooting npcs seems the same in missions or plexes.
In theory if plexes where a bit more balanced and everyone got involved in doing it they would provide a great arena for fun balanced fights without docking games or gate camps. It also adds a bit of RP and motivation to fight for them if you pretend that occupancy means something even if it only means you get bragging rights. Unfortunately it didnt work out like ccp probably hoped it would. |
Dibsi Dei
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.12 19:08:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Printer Jam
Originally by: Cearain Why do you guys plex so much?
No this is not a troll. I really wonder. If you want pvp don't you find more of it by doing roams? If you want to do pve aren't missions more fun? They at least provide some reward. The actual activity of shooting npcs seems the same in missions or plexes.
In theory if plexes where a bit more balanced and everyone got involved in doing it they would provide a great arena for fun balanced fights without docking games or gate camps. It also adds a bit of RP and motivation to fight for them if you pretend that occupancy means something even if it only means you get bragging rights. Unfortunately it didnt work out like ccp probably hoped it would.
This,
if people wanted to fight at gates and stations they could it outside fw too. The whole idea of fw is fighting in the different sized complexes.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.01.12 19:31:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
if people wanted to fight at gates and stations they could it outside fw too. The whole idea of fw is fighting in the different sized complexes.
Actually, a huge part of FW is also to make frigate / destroyer class pvp viable in the whole of lowsec and not just in belts, without completely throwing the idea of "no general frigate tackle on gates" out of the window completely.
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Dibsi Dei
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:05:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
if people wanted to fight at gates and stations they could it outside fw too. The whole idea of fw is fighting in the different sized complexes.
Actually, a huge part of FW is also to make frigate / destroyer class pvp viable in the whole of lowsec and not just in belts, without completely throwing the idea of "no general frigate tackle on gates" out of the window completely.
Sure, disrupting the enemy from sending troops to defend/capture plexes is great.
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Ikathis sihtaki
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:43:00 -
[62]
CCP hurry and give the ai that sleepers have to the plexes, this would solve the abuse of stupid ai. |
Draco C
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Posted - 2010.01.13 01:39:00 -
[63]
*Sigh*
Here we go again.
To the PERVS - nicely done. Will look forward to taking you on, finally.
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2010.01.13 04:36:00 -
[64]
Well done PERV's.
Seems they have more balls than most of the Federation militia. Any Federation fleets tend to avoid Ladistier completely and go off fighting pirates instead of the Caldari militia. TBH I expected such a thing from a militia based in Federation space although the Caldari militia isn't always better. I hope when I get back to the Gallente militia there will more fight in them but I doubt it.
As for Bad Messenger not speaking English....
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:27:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki CCP hurry and give the ai that sleepers have to the plexes, this would solve the abuse of stupid ai.
LOL sleepers does not have AI. They are just tough and have random aggro and webs (missioning AI has same).
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Mirthe
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Posted - 2010.01.13 08:58:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Terranid Meester
... Any Federation fleets tend to avoid Ladistier completely and go off fighting pirates instead of the Caldari militia. ...
Correction. The Federation advises its members not to travel through Ladistier solo or in very small gangs, because the chances of being ganked by PERVS are indeed almost 100%. 10+ Fed Fleets have no problem travelling through Ladistier, but there is no point doing that either, as the PERVS, choosing their fights very... cautiously (I almost typed cowardly ), immediately hug station and dock when equal forces comes in.
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.01.13 10:18:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Terranid Meester I hope when I get back to the Gallente militia there will more fight in them but I doubt it.
Well, from the opposing side, the Gallente Militia have almost too much fight in them. They regularly bring 60-70 strong fleets out but have yet to realise, or dont care, that Caldari Militia CANNOT match these numbers. So if you see them going after pirates more, its probably because chasing Frigate gangs with a RR BS fleet is kind of stupid.
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NobodyHolme
Gallente Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.01.13 10:22:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Mirthe
Originally by: Terranid Meester
... Any Federation fleets tend to avoid Ladistier completely and go off fighting pirates instead of the Caldari militia. ...
Correction. The Federation advises its members not to travel through Ladistier solo or in very small gangs, because the chances of being ganked by PERVS are indeed almost 100%. 10+ Fed Fleets have no problem travelling through Ladistier, but there is no point doing that either, as the PERVS, choosing their fights very... cautiously (I almost typed cowardly ), immediately hug station and dock when equal forces comes in.
Well it keeps your K/D nice and high... Because I can. |
Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:16:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Vincent Death
Originally by: Terranid Meester I hope when I get back to the Gallente militia there will more fight in them but I doubt it.
Well, from the opposing side, the Gallente Militia have almost too much fight in them. They regularly bring 60-70 strong fleets out but have yet to realise, or dont care, that Caldari Militia CANNOT match these numbers. So if you see them going after pirates more, its probably because chasing Frigate gangs with a RR BS fleet is kind of stupid.
Which is the EXACT opposite of 6 months ago - FW cyclable blah blah blah
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:22:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Vincent Death
Originally by: Terranid Meester I hope when I get back to the Gallente militia there will more fight in them but I doubt it.
Well, from the opposing side, the Gallente Militia have almost too much fight in them. They regularly bring 60-70 strong fleets out but have yet to realise, or dont care, that Caldari Militia CANNOT match these numbers. So if you see them going after pirates more, its probably because chasing Frigate gangs with a RR BS fleet is kind of stupid.
Wolfpacks for win :)
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.13 12:29:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Vincent Death
Yes, I think it's disgusting that when you warp your fleet to the bunker it instantly switches to the secret PvE server and no-one is allowed to shoot at you.
Nah mate, we warped our fleets to the bunker in Jove and OMS and in response the Perv fleet attacking the bunker warped to the station and docked.
After doing this for an hour or so, people decided to do something slightly more interesting. Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
CrazySpaceHobo
Caldari Mysterys Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.13 13:33:00 -
[72]
GLORY TO THE STATE!
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2010.01.13 15:51:00 -
[73]
I don't really care much about the plexes to be honest. The Caldari militia can have them all.
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.13 15:55:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
Nah mate, we warped our fleets to the bunker in Jove and OMS and in response the Perv fleet attacking the bunker warped to the station and docked.
After doing this for an hour or so, people decided to do something slightly more interesting.
lol. we won! and in what ships lol!
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NobodyHolme
Gallente Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.01.13 16:15:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
Nah mate, we warped our fleets to the bunker in Jove and OMS and in response the Perv fleet attacking the bunker warped to the station and docked.
After doing this for an hour or so, people decided to do something slightly more interesting.
lol. we won! and in what ships lol!
Posting to confirm that boring the other side to death isa valid tactic in FW.
Enjoy your pixelated space "ownership" Because I can. |
Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.13 17:06:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
Originally by: Vincent Death
Yes, I think it's disgusting that when you warp your fleet to the bunker it instantly switches to the secret PvE server and no-one is allowed to shoot at you.
Nah mate, we warped our fleets to the bunker in Jove and OMS and in response the Perv fleet attacking the bunker warped to the station and docked.
After doing this for an hour or so, people decided to do something slightly more interesting.
We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.13 17:28:00 -
[77]
We've had and will, eventually, get plenty of PVp from teh Caldari Militia.
I'm perfectly happy for your Corp to waste their time in plexes whilst we get the killmails.
Have fun orbitting that button. Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.13 18:54:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Bad Messenger
We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
Real reason: MDP in FW for fights. Best way to get them out of FW (and therefore win) is to not give them fights.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.13 19:06:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Bad Messenger We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
As usual, nothing but trolling and hypocrisy, with obvious duplicity to taste. -----
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.13 19:32:00 -
[80]
Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Bad Messenger
We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
Real reason: MDP in FW for fights. Best way to get them out of FW (and therefore win) is to not give them fights.
Today your corp mate bugged one minor plex in heydelies, i am sure it was important to do. So real reason is EXPLOITING.
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Ninlarra
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Posted - 2010.01.13 19:37:00 -
[81]
Originally by: BacardiDesire but i heard they are increasingly getting good in losing allot of faction battleships these days with their pirate friends in amamake :)
Ha. I have personally bear witness to this truth for some time now.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.13 20:19:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Bad Messenger Today your corp mate bugged one minor plex in heydelies, i am sure it was important to do. So real reason is EXPLOITING.
/me needs to have a talk with him to make sure he uses that exploit more than once each time he's online. Doing exploit only once doesn't have an impact on the plexing war.
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Jin Gle
Asgardreia
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Posted - 2010.01.13 21:35:00 -
[83]
I have to comfirm that whilst we were shooting caldari missionboats in Jita, Motsu and nourvakaiken people were cheering and celebrating the glorious victory in essence even whilst their ships were exploding. Never before have I seen such a strong united caldari front.
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.14 00:11:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Bad Messenger
We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
The master exploiters themselves crying about someone else. LOL...
Remind me again what plexing and system control actually accomplishes? Ya, that's what I thought. I'd rather punch myself in the junk - repeatedly - than plex.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.14 06:34:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Cromwell Savage
Originally by: Bad Messenger
We have clear policy to avoid battle against mutual depression pact members. Reason is that those people exploit all fw bugs all the time, have a fun without fights.
The master exploiters themselves crying about someone else. LOL...
Remind me again what plexing and system control actually accomplishes? Ya, that's what I thought. I'd rather punch myself in the junk - repeatedly - than plex.
There is clear difference using game mechanics as those are working as intended or abusing bugs that are not working as intended. If you can point out where we have exploited i will petition it myself.
I am sure you will do everything to stop your corp mates exploiting bugs, right?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.14 07:54:00 -
[86]
BSdis! I just got to STO beta and man, it's totally fun game! Can I create Space Perverts there too? Plz? They will be SO awesome as Plingons using their Bird of Preys cloaking haxploits!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.14 10:51:00 -
[87]
Please can we stop all the finger pointing he did, they did crap - Seems to be every thread thats about plexxing and system taking ends up in the same arguments and its been covered stupid amounts of times now.
As said before, well done to the Pervs and friends for taking back those systems credit where credit is due tbh.
And @ BM - Mutual depression pact comment made me chuckle mate (kinda catchy that ), Maybe you wont fight us because we actually put gangs together that will give you a decent scrap as opposed to you chaining lemmings that for some reason continue to jump into you, who knows
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:25:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki CCP hurry and give the ai that sleepers have to the plexes, this would solve the abuse of stupid ai.
LOL sleepers does not have AI. They are just tough and have random aggro and webs (missioning AI has same).
*LOL* Failpost is failpost:
http://www.massively.com/2009/02/23/eve-online-developer-explains-new-ai-for-the-sleeper-race/
Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :) |
Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:22:00 -
[89]
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki CCP hurry and give the ai that sleepers have to the plexes, this would solve the abuse of stupid ai.
LOL sleepers does not have AI. They are just tough and have random aggro and webs (missioning AI has same).
*LOL* Failpost is failpost:
http://www.massively.com/2009/02/23/eve-online-developer-explains-new-ai-for-the-sleeper-race/
well i was game developer for 10 years so I am just telling you my observation .... and well such nice statements about advanced AI I have written tons ;)
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:30:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Ikathis sihtaki CCP hurry and give the ai that sleepers have to the plexes, this would solve the abuse of stupid ai.
LOL sleepers does not have AI. They are just tough and have random aggro and webs (missioning AI has same).
*LOL* Failpost is failpost:
http://www.massively.com/2009/02/23/eve-online-developer-explains-new-ai-for-the-sleeper-race/
well i was game developer for 10 years so I am just telling you my observation ... and well such nice statements about advanced AI I have written tons ;)
Dosn't matter failpost is still failpost...and you powers of observations is cleary subpar.
But nice try to wiggle out and pretend you wern't wrong...2/10
Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though... And yes I am an alt :) |
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Cearain
Caldari ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.15 01:10:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Printer Jam
Originally by: Cearain Why do you guys plex so much?
No this is not a troll. I really wonder. If you want pvp don't you find more of it by doing roams? If you want to do pve aren't missions more fun? They at least provide some reward. The actual activity of shooting npcs seems the same in missions or plexes.
In theory if plexes where a bit more balanced and everyone got involved in doing it they would provide a great arena for fun balanced fights without docking games or gate camps. It also adds a bit of RP and motivation to fight for them if you pretend that occupancy means something even if it only means you get bragging rights. Unfortunately it didnt work out like ccp probably hoped it would.
Yes I think plexes have great potential. But in the current system I donÆt see why one would actually ôdoö a plex. I *check* them all the time û if there is a potential wt in local. But if there is no one in local why sit in the plex and wait 10-15 minutes fighting npcs and hoping someone shows up? I mean just keep going to different systems looking for a plex that is occupied and have some pvp-if thatÆs what your looking for.
It seems if you want to plex you do best to look for empty systems and pelx. If you want to pvp you look for locals with wts fight the battle and donÆt waste time on actually orbiting the button.
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.15 03:32:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Cearain
Originally by: Printer Jam
Originally by: Cearain Why do you guys plex so much?
No this is not a troll. I really wonder. If you want pvp don't you find more of it by doing roams? If you want to do pve aren't missions more fun? They at least provide some reward. The actual activity of shooting npcs seems the same in missions or plexes.
In theory if plexes where a bit more balanced and everyone got involved in doing it they would provide a great arena for fun balanced fights without docking games or gate camps. It also adds a bit of RP and motivation to fight for them if you pretend that occupancy means something even if it only means you get bragging rights. Unfortunately it didnt work out like ccp probably hoped it would.
Yes I think plexes have great potential. But in the current system I donÆt see why one would actually ôdoö a plex. I *check* them all the time û if there is a potential wt in local. But if there is no one in local why sit in the plex and wait 10-15 minutes fighting npcs and hoping someone shows up? I mean just keep going to different systems looking for a plex that is occupied and have some pvp-if thatÆs what your looking for.
It seems if you want to plex you do best to look for empty systems and pelx. If you want to pvp you look for locals with wts fight the battle and donÆt waste time on actually orbiting the button.
If you get system contested enough some part of enemy militia gets interested about that system and may come to defend plexes. Little orbiting and you have nice bait
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.01.15 10:37:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Gallactica Please can we stop all the finger pointing he did, they did crap
Not until PERVS make good on their promise and leave FW. -----
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Akaraman
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Posted - 2010.01.15 11:52:00 -
[94]
Congratulations for your victory, if so many people in your faction do it (plexing)... it means that is important for you and it seams you are doing it good.
I understand that you are one (the) leader of the Caldari Militia, so how is possible that you do not encourage fleet fights ? ex: when you fc a fleet you engage ONLY if you have a 2-1 ratio or, against a bc down fleet you match their numbers in BS's ? About the PERVS... you know that as good that they are in plexing, they run and dock at the first sign of a enemy fleet they see with all the alts and spy's they have...is embarrassing. I'm not saying that you should fight every day but ad least from time to time it will be nice... Like the Amarr they are a worthy opponent!
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YORK CRAFT
Caldari KRAFTWERK
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Posted - 2010.01.15 11:52:00 -
[95]
Im a bit late in here, but I said it already to Caldari Militia : well done pervs, Damar and all others involved.
We do care about plexes and they have multiple advantages.
Keep up the good work o7.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.01.15 12:44:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 15/01/2010 12:54:55 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 15/01/2010 12:54:01
Originally by: Akaraman I understand that you are one (the) leader of the Caldari Militia, so how is possible that you do not encourage fleet fights ?
PERVS has never FC'ed a militia fleet and I don't believe they have any intention to do so. The reasons for this is probably the fact that corp fleet is more trustworthy, has faster response time and people know each others capabilities.
I do run plexing gangs on occasion but I have no intention to FC a fleet running up and down the OMS-Tama pipe. Likewise, why would anybody fight when odds are clearly stacked against them?
No one (at least smart) stays when jesus blob lands on their direction and if we can inflict damage with current means, such as forcing the freighter to self-destruct two jumps from Villore (and thus causing another 20 gallente to leave FW), why wouldnt we? This is war isnt it? That's why Gallentes take their mega-blobs to Motsu/Jita almost daily isnt it?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Cearain
Caldari ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.15 16:04:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Akaraman Congratulations for your victory, if so many people in your faction do it (plexing)... it means that is important for you and it seams you are doing it good.
I understand that you are one (the) leader of the Caldari Militia, so how is possible that you do not encourage fleet fights ? ex: when you fc a fleet you engage ONLY if you have a 2-1 ratio or, against a bc down fleet you match their numbers in BS's ? About the PERVS... you know that as good that they are in plexing, they run and dock at the first sign of a enemy fleet they see with all the alts and spy's they have...is embarrassing. I'm not saying that you should fight every day but ad least from time to time it will be nice... Like the Amarr they are a worthy opponent!
At least for Amarr Minmatar, plexing and fleet battles are completely different creatures in the current fw mechanics. Plexing is best done when no other wartargets are around. Fleet battles can occur anywhere regardless of whether there is a plex. If the plexes actually meant something then we would see many large battles in plexes. But they don't mean anything close to the value of the ships involved in pvp battles so the decision to engage is never really influenced by arguments like "we have to defend this plex!" At least after a few months of fw I *never* heard an fc say anything like that. And indeed it was only about once or twise that an fc actually brought a fleet into a plex. When that happens its just to limit the size of the opponents ships. Then the comms went something like this: pilot: "FC since we are here should we run the plex?" FC: "Well ok if you want, but I want most of the ships at the warp in, and we may not stay long enough for the plex to finish"
In other words plexing is at best an afterthought and very low on an fcs priority list. PVP can happen in plexes but no one puts enough value on taking a plex to even have that enter the equation on whether they should risk a ship.
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Vikarion
Caldari Chorus of Nephilim
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Posted - 2010.01.15 16:06:00 -
[98]
I'm really sorry I missed this last week, RL and job and all that. That said, it's been a lot of fun working with PERVS and the other Caldari plexers. John Tanashima, Cosmic Raider, Vincent Death, and others have been awesome and worked hard for this. And of course, Damar, who I've flown with in fleet and is fun to work with.
I haven't ever seen PERVS intentionally use an exploit, and, to be fair, haven't seen most of the Gallente do it either, so I think that the finger-pointing is pretty useless. FW is buggy as hell, but that's no one's fault but CCPs.
Anyway, good job to all, and I'll be out there plexing hard again next week! --- CHORI is recruiting! |
Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.15 20:02:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Akaraman Congratulations for your victory, if so many people in your faction do it (plexing)... it means that is important for you and it seams you are doing it good.
I understand that you are one (the) leader of the Caldari Militia, so how is possible that you do not encourage fleet fights ? ex: when you fc a fleet you engage ONLY if you have a 2-1 ratio or, against a bc down fleet you match their numbers in BS's ? About the PERVS... you know that as good that they are in plexing, they run and dock at the first sign of a enemy fleet they see with all the alts and spy's they have...is embarrassing. I'm not saying that you should fight every day but ad least from time to time it will be nice... Like the Amarr they are a worthy opponent!
Your wiev to fw is leading you to wrong track. You think it too small scale. You see only one fight and how we run. But if you look at it on our side, we have less than 50 member against your whole militia with 4236 members, we do get get some support from other caldari militia members but our own people is only thing we count for.
You assemble fleet for 2 hours and get number who can crush our small fleet, sure we run. But at the same time when you assembled that fleet we killed numerous random gallente members and took all plexes. So you got your fleet to win, but it was too late, there was no more reason to fight for us.
Our goal is to take and keep systems, no matter occupancy has no meaning at all.
FCing big blob does not serve our goal, those do not want to plex And plexes are the key for changing occupancy.
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Terrus Valkin
Gallente ArmoredCore Armed Forces
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Posted - 2010.01.16 01:52:00 -
[100]
I leave home for a few days, and look what happens...
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Akaraman
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Posted - 2010.01.16 09:33:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Damar Rocarion Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 15/01/2010 12:54:55 Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 15/01/2010 12:54:01
PERVS has never FC'ed a militia fleet and I don't believe they have any intention to do so. The reasons for this is probably the fact that corp fleet is more trustworthy, has faster response time and people know each others capabilities.
I do run plexing gangs on occasion but I have no intention to FC a fleet running up and down the OMS-Tama pipe. Likewise, why would anybody fight when odds are clearly stacked against them?
No one (at least smart) stays when jesus blob lands on their direction and if we can inflict damage with current means, such as forcing the freighter to self-destruct two jumps from Villore (and thus causing another 20 gallente to leave FW), why wouldnt we? This is war isnt it? That's why Gallentes take their mega-blobs to Motsu/Jita almost daily isnt it?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
I believe I did not underestimate your intelligence so please do not underestimate mine. I think my words were clear, and the question was simple. I'm not talking about "blob situations" I was talking about even fleets and the occasions when a Caldari and a Gallente fleet run in to each other and you know that happened and still happens.
I was just curios because I believe that FW is about fighting and I know that there are a lot of Caldari players seeking more then smack talking in local and fighting rats.
...becouse Yes it is war Rocarion !
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Akaraman
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Posted - 2010.01.16 09:53:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Akaraman Congratulations for your victory, if so many people in your faction do it (plexing)... it means that is important for you and it seams you are doing it good.
Your wiev to fw is leading you to wrong track. You think it too small scale. You see only one fight and how we run. But if you look at it on our side, we have less than 50 member against your whole militia with 4236 members, we do get get some support from other caldari militia members but our own people is only thing we count for.
You assemble fleet for 2 hours and get number who can crush our small fleet, sure we run. But at the same time when you assembled that fleet we killed numerous random gallente members and took all plexes. So you got your fleet to win, but it was too late, there was no more reason to fight for us.
Our goal is to take and keep systems, no matter occupancy has no meaning at all.
FCing big blob does not serve our goal, those do not want to plex And plexes are the key for changing occupancy.
It is one thing to engage the enemy, occasionally, with a superior force (gate camps) and another thing to do it all the time... It has no honor no glory and... no fun. you will see that one day you will get bored to play in your "little box". As you have seen our FC's don't even bother with you. Doesn't this bother you? It means that you are not longer a par of this... one more thing I personly seen you "retreat" from a 10 men t1 frig fleet you were 8 but you had 3 bc's (just an example and if this is still a blob...)
Then again, this is just my Personal opinion, I do not take pride in my wisdom I was just asking from "curiosity" some simple questions.
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Rail Gun
Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.16 22:35:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Rail Gun on 16/01/2010 22:36:06
Originally by: Akaraman ...Doesn't this bother you?...
No.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2010.01.17 10:41:00 -
[104]
Just an observation and a small summery.
"Oh no they brought MOAR ships" "Oh no they Ran away from my fleet becuase it a blob" "Oh no they have more plexers, they must HAXZOR" "Oh no we don't care about plexing but we will anounce a huge campaign and plex like mad"
I think most of eve have heard this before, and most luagh as it resembles two 5 year old fighting over an actionman. I Lol'd.
Battle.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.01.17 13:19:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 17/01/2010 13:20:06 Wow. Some of you guys are really immature.
edited because i did not specify "some"
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Intigo
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.17 15:03:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 17/01/2010 13:20:06 Wow. Some of you guys are really immature.
edited because i did not specify "some"
Oh wow. ___________________
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.01.18 08:09:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 17/01/2010 13:20:06 Wow. Some of you guys are really immature.
edited because i did not specify "some"
Ohhai Siigari, got any juicy T3's to spend?
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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