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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2010.01.08 12:17:00 -
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Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec
Not all suicide gankers are outlaws with perfect -10 status, jetting around in shuttles and pods in hisec.
As I handle a lot of trade in hi-sec, I prefer to keep my security rating above -2.0. So every gank requires a bit of repair work to avoid outlaw status.
A successful gank in 0.5 space will usually set you back -0.3 security points. This goes up in higher-sec space. (IE, in 0.7, its closer to -0.5 points) Ratting a 'pirate faction' Battleship earns between +0.02-0.025 points, every 15 minutes. This means you will have to destroy a NPC battleship, every 15 minutes for 3-4 hours to earn back the penalty for a single gank. TOO LONG - but there are ways to speed this up quite a bit.
Myself, I can usually erase the penalty for a successful Hulk gank in less than an hour. (IE, +0.3-0.4 points of security status in one hour - in hisec space)
CHANGING SYSTEMS The 15 minute timer is specific to the system you are in. If you kill rats in two different systems, your security status increases twice as fast. Three different systems? Three times as fast, and so on.
Its well known that you can earn sec status quickly by ratting in 0.0 (where the large NPC battleships roam in the asteroid fields). The bonus per battleship is the same, a player intent on ratting for security status can jump between multiple systems and get a sec bonus each time - limited only by jumping to new systems, gatecamps and the time it takes to find a suitable belt rat.
This is also possible in high-sec, via LVL 4 missions. If you run two Level 4 missions, side by side, in two systems you achieve the same effect (without wasting time hunting for rats in asteroid belts.) Of course, not all rats grant security bonuses: AVOID faction kill missions, drone missions, EOM missions.
CHANGING RACIAL RATS Another multiplier: Killing two rats (in the same system) of two different factions grants you an additional timer, multiplying your gains as well. IE, if you kill a Gurista, an Angel, and a Serpentis NPC within the same system, in 15 minutes, you will get THREE security increases every 15 minutes.
This actually is an advantage for hi-sec ratting, as NPC belt rats are distributed geographically - you won't find multiple races of NPCs in belts within one system.
SO, what does it mean?
My preferred method of 'speed status repair' involves:
Setting up (between my main and alt) 4 separate Level 4 missions, in two adjacent systems.
After clearing the frigates and cruisers, you can move between these systems 'harvesting' the Battleships at a rate of about 4 every 15 minutes, increasing my security status by 0.08 - 0.1 point each 15 minutes - or 0.3-0.4 an hour.
I aim for 'The Blockade' (lots of Serp. high value BS, no gates) in two different systems, and 'Angel Extravaganza' or 'Pirate Invasion' (lots of Angel BS, few gates) in the same two systems.
With multiple LVL 4 agents, turning down inappropriate missions, and intelligent farming (allowing the mission to reset at DT, rather than turning it in) - its surprisingly easy to set things up this way.
In 15 minutes: Kill Serp BS, warp to Angel Mission. Kill Angel BS, warp to gate, jump to next system, warp to 2nd Serp mission. Kill Serp BS, warp to 2nd Angel Mission. Kill Angel BS, warp to gate, return to first system. Rinse repeat, with +0.1 sec status, each repetition.
Don't have access to LVL 4 missions? Find a friend and get the bookmarks (which will be good for several days if nobody ends the mission) OR scan down mission runners and shoot THEIR rats. You don't even have to kill them, just target paint them for a second at let the MR do the work.
Sad, 'running' missions for any reason, but I'm looking to get maximum Empire ganking/hour.
TLDR: Ratting speed increases when you: A) Change systems B) Kill different 'races' of NPCs
You can erase a suicide gank penalty, in hi-sec, in a single hour.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 13:36:00 -
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O_O
that is...very cunning
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General Paul
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.08 13:42:00 -
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very informative, ill try hopping between different faction rats =)
Its a nice go between until ccp introduces bribeable concord/DED representatives.
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FU22
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.08 13:50:00 -
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Whats this? An informative and constructive thread in Crime and Punishment?
Whats this world coming to!
Originally by: Millie Clode Dear santa, for christmas I would like an endless supply of noobs to march across my screen so I can pretend I'm playing duck hunt
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Ventii
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Posted - 2010.01.08 14:30:00 -
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what about worlds collide...that work?
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2010.01.08 15:06:00 -
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I'm not sure about Worlds Collide, TBH. Long distances, and sometimes it seems like you are killing NPCs and not getting a bonus, even if they are the 'correct' pirate factions.
Not sure why, could be mistaken. I tend to reject it and take the ones that I know work.
Wasn't sure about posting this - hate for carebear complainers to make a big deal of it. "WHAT? only one hour of ratting to pop my hulk, consequence free?" I've been pushing for 'pirate amnesty' or sec status for ISK, and this makes farming sec-status pretty painless, TBH.
But also want people to take advantage of it to maximum effect during Hulkaggedon - don't want the -10's to have ALL the fun.
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General Paul
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.08 15:29:00 -
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Not sure if all are the same but im pretty sure WC for minny or amarr agents gives no sec status for the ships.
Perhaps to stop eager pirate types from hopping from one faction to another too easily, because spending an hour is not enough recompense for killing a robot =)
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Miyuki Shirafune
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:22:00 -
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Seeing as my combat skills are limited to the minimum for ganking, and my alts don't have access to level 4 missions, I shall try to find someone in-game to tag along with.
Thank you for your very well-written how-to guide.
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Solomar Espersei
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Miyuki Shirafune Seeing as my combat skills are limited to the minimum for ganking...
Try target painting then. It's often the case that MR get sent to the neighboring system to their Lv 4 Ho... er.. um Agent. Scan up a couple of missions in the hub. Target paint a BS or two in whatever missions you find, then jump to the neighboring system and repeat.
Great Post HW. all the best, solomar |
arthura hobbes
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:41:00 -
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Great post.
The op didn't mention it, but training fast talk speeds up your sec gains when ratting.
Minimizing the sec hit you take saves ratting time later. You can minimize your sec loss when ganking by choosing a lower security system and targets with lower security status, as sec loss depends on system security, victim's security, and your own.
If you do not care about getting a loss mail, attacking miners who have drones out and set on aggressive will also ameliorate your sec loss. When you attack such miners, their drones will attack you. So, you will not get the penalty for their ship destruction, only for aggression. (They also won't have kill rights on you, if you care about that sort of thing.)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.01.09 20:31:00 -
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the gurista/serpentis wc doesn't give sec status increases
but damn it would be nice if it did.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:46:00 -
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An alternate, easier route is to probe out mission runners and kill their rats rather than waiting for the perfect set of missions yourself (which is gay). --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:49:00 -
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I fitted my vigil with the following,
dcII mwd probe launcher pulse lazor stuffs ~
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Neyko Turama
Minmatar Black Arrows
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Posted - 2010.01.10 00:47:00 -
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Question concerning this. Is it true that the sec gain is only affected by the "best" rat u kill every 15 minutes (so u got only to kill 1 BS)? Or is it like, the more, the better?
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.10 00:54:00 -
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It's true, although the op is saying this is per faction as well as the established per system. ~
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:50:00 -
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Yes, if you don't have access to Level 4 missions, you can scan out other people's missions.
Main issues with that with regards to speed: Scanning takes time. Lots of Lvl4 Mission provide no bonus - Drones/Mercs/EOM/Faction Mission runners sometimes bail on the mission and don't finish off the target right away, (if you don't have the firepower to kill the NPC yourself)
and the big one:
You can't really control the pace at which the mission is completed. You can snag a bonus here and there (provided the MR finishes the mission) - and then flit off to find another mission.
But in my experience, just arranging your own missions is faster, as you can farm them at whatever pace your choose - they stick around for 5-6 days - and they don't need to be scanned down.
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