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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2010.01.06 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 06/01/2010 18:50:55
A new (well, newly acquired 2 months ago) anti-whaling ship of the Sea Shepherd organization got rammed and cut in half by a Japanese whaling ship. Apparently the ship cannot be salvaged due to the ramming. All the crew was rescued though (although how a nimble and speedy looking ship like this gets rammed by a fishing boat I have no idea).
Looks like fun times! Good guy pirates in bad ass boats! (boat looks like the batmobile in the water)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8443309.stm
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Doctor Tiberium
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Posted - 2010.01.06 19:33:00 -
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The japanese did a good thing.
a boat as kickass as that in the hands of those people is like a titan in the hands of a highsec mission runner.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2010.01.06 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Tiberium The japanese did a good thing.
a boat as kickass as that in the hands of those people is like a titan in the hands of a highsec mission runner.
The reverse actually.
The anti-whalers are going in to low sec to pew pew with the whalers (guess they didn't read the patch notes where bumping mechanics were changed so ramming your inty into an Orca [see what I did there] doesn't turn out as well as it once did).
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.06 19:54:00 -
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They actually should put Stan from Southpark in command of the 'operation'.
It'd be much better.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:11:00 -
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lol, that's awesome.
The ecomentalist morons are clearly in a far more agile vessel, doing at least equal speed and are cutting across the bow of the Japanese vessel when the collision happens.
If anyone could have taken action to stop the collision, it was person at the helm the ecomentalist's vessel. To me from that video it actually looks as if the Sea Shepard is the one doing the ramming, to be honest.
The Japanese need to start shooting at these morons with harpoons. They'll soon stop being morons when they're busy dodging stainless steel arrows.
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:36:00 -
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Maybe they were trying to board the whaling ship to start a drum circle or something and miscalculated the approach. Either way, I LOL'd. _ |
Amon Fyre
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:44:00 -
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Was it the new ship, The Steve Irwin?
Cause, well, that would be messed up on so many levels.
The whaling ship wasn't named sting ray or something was it?
Originally by: Gone'Postal Don't worry hunny, With your transversal I might as well be shooting blanks.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
lol, that's awesome.
The ecomentalist morons are clearly in a far more agile vessel, doing at least equal speed and are cutting across the bow of the Japanese vessel when the collision happens.
If anyone could have taken action to stop the collision, it was person at the helm the ecomentalist's vessel. To me from that video it actually looks as if the Sea Shepard is the one doing the ramming, to be honest.
The Japanese need to start shooting at these morons with harpoons. They'll soon stop being morons when they're busy dodging stainless steel arrows.
Why don't we just kill off the japanese and save the oceans?
There are some fine ass environmentalists out there
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:52:00 -
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Ahahaha that was awesome. Bonus points to the japanese fishermen for blasting them with a high pressure hose as they slid past. \o/
Tbh these econuts are lucky that little fiberglass batboat didn't go under the ship or they would all have been turned into fish food by the propellers.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:59:00 -
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Good work by the Sons of Nippon.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:10:00 -
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Ecohippies, that's what you get for trying to ram a clearly marked and harmless research boat.
Also lol'd at the hippie batmobile boat. Were they really expecting to come out of that crash in one piece, or even damage Glorious Nippon's peaceful research vessel Shonen Maru no.2?
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Lorth
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:16:00 -
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Man batman is going to be ****ed about this. Serves him right for lending it out though.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:24:00 -
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The japanese should hire the french secret service if they really want to get rid of these nutcases.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Verone The ecomentalist morons are clearly in a far more agile vessel, doing at least equal speed and are cutting across the bow of the Japanese vessel when the collision happens.
IIRC the eco-vessel in the vid has a potential top speed of 50 knots. So, could be lots faster than the Japanese ship. Certainly more nimble.
It may be they wanted to get rammed so they can sue the whalers. I think ships on the starboard side have the right-of-way (been ages since I had to know that so may be remembering wrong). So, technically, the Japanese ship should have given way.
Stupid? Maybe but I'm at a loss for any other explanation. Batboat captain had to know his ship would lose and lose badly in any collision with that factory ship.
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Dannerkongen
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:35:00 -
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serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:50:00 -
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Danner's gonna be in Trooouuubbbblleee _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
It may be they wanted to get rammed so they can sue the whalers. I think ships on the starboard side have the right-of-way (been ages since I had to know that so may be remembering wrong). So, technically, the Japanese ship should have given way.
They operate in international waters so there is no lawsuit motivation. They would want international attention though. It also isn't the first time they've tried to make it look like the Japanese do more than their best to just ignore them. _ |
illford baker
Pilots of Damnation death from above..
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:09:00 -
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they are lucky they only rammed them, if i was the whalers i would shoot them with my harpoon gun in the face!
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dannerkongen serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
I've no love for the Japs and some of their methods but Sea Shepherd are nothing short of pirates.
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Rolk Anderson
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:33:00 -
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Personally im on the side of the sea shepherd, i mean it gets the hippies out of the way.. thats got to count for something right?
Also it would be nice if teh "research" they do on whales was more than just finding out how they taste.
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/01/2010 23:35:54 Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/01/2010 23:34:59
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Originally by: Dannerkongen serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
I've no love for the Japs and some of their methods but Sea Shepherd are nothing short of pirates.
Yeah, you know, with those hundreds of pirates ships seized from the Japanese whalers and lots of Japanese whalers for hostages demanding Tokyo to stop whaling.
Seriously? "Nothing short of pirates"? I think the Somalis would like a word with you!
Nothing short of pirates, but actually pirating. *facepalms*.
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nawt Ovarpwiced on 06/01/2010 23:39:01 So you're supporting the Japanese killing Whales??
Great logic there guys.
Do me a favor and go earn a Darwin award for yourselves.
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:40:00 -
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I am no fan of the practice of Japanese whaling but "Greenpeace ecoterrorism" is my second favorite oxymoron spawned from dogma, right behind "Pro-life assassin." _ |
JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:45:00 -
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I've seen that show more than a few times, the captain/helmsman of the Sea Shepherd should have known better.
Perhaps they'll stop being so aggressive now.
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trenny jr
Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: trenny jr on 06/01/2010 23:47:44
Originally by: Dannerkongen serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
and you would rather I didn't eat meat just so some mass bred cow could live?or perhaps you would rather I refused to use medicine as at some point it was probably tested on animals.
Animal rights activists annoy me as they put the life of an animal higher than that of a human which is flawed on SO many levels. To further my point on medicine if it wasn't tested on animals first it would need to be tested on humans which with could result in a human life being lost which could have been avoided (not saying all testing catches things that kill but a lot).
PS Please don't use short hand on fourms you have plenty of time to type and edit your posts take care and love them.
[EDIT] I have no love for whaling but greenpeace would have us eating like rabbits so i detest them [EDIT]
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: trenny jr Edited by: trenny jr on 06/01/2010 23:47:44
Originally by: Dannerkongen serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
and you would rather I didn't eat meat just so some mass bred cow could live?or perhaps you would rather I refused to use medicine as at some point it was probably tested on animals.
Animal rights activists annoy me as they put the life of an animal higher than that of a human which is flawed on SO many levels. To further my point on medicine if it wasn't tested on animals first it would need to be tested on humans which with could result in a human life being lost which could have been avoided (not saying all testing catches things that kill but a lot).
PS Please don't use short hand on fourms you have plenty of time to type and edit your posts take care and love them.
[EDIT] I have no love for whaling but greenpeace would have us eating like rabbits so i detest them [EDIT]
But just on that logic, What gives us the right to place ourselves as a higher priority than that over animals?
Just because we deem ourselves smarter?
When you have a close look at human behavior, we're nothing more than feral animals who've learnt how to dress nicely and act polite to save face. (look at the world we live in in detail, its quite disgusting how we will walk all over eachother, sell children into slave labor, kill people for their organs, and generaly be nasty, foul, evil people just for the $$) At least animals kill out of necessity to stay alive (eat)
I'm not a greenpeace supporter, and i love my Meat, im just saying :P
On another note.... This will realy, realy, REALY mess with the Vegetarians/Vegans/Greenpeace.
They can GROW meat.
http://www.sphere.com/article/scientists-create-lab-grown-pork-bacon-industry-unmoved/19262314
They're doing it with Bacon, needs alot of fine tuning, but it can be done... how long till we will have Vatt grown meat? Since it will not be coming from an animal, and no anmials will be harmed to make it in any way shape or form.. will the Vegan's/Vego's eat it? or will the cry foul and team up with those religious pricks that think that Abortion is wrong even if the person that wants it is 16 and was ****d and has a mental condition which would not allow them to cope with the child.
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/01/2010 23:35:54 Edited by: Xen Gin on 06/01/2010 23:34:59
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Originally by: Dannerkongen serious?
u guys take the side og goo.k animal molesters with 2" coc.ks over HERO greenpeace activists with dic.kballs the size of your fu.cking p.ussyass head!??!
u guys rly impress me with ur uber personalities! i bet u guys have loads of rl friends!! and girls rly like u!
greenpeace ftw
I've no love for the Japs and some of their methods but Sea Shepherd are nothing short of pirates.
Yeah, you know, with those hundreds of pirates ships seized from the Japanese whalers and lots of Japanese whalers for hostages demanding Tokyo to stop whaling.
Seriously? "Nothing short of pirates"? I think the Somalis would like a word with you!
Nothing short of pirates, but actually pirating. *facepalms*.
I trol u.
Seriously though... what makes a whale so special in comparison to any other mammal, fish, reptile, bird or insect? It's far more humane to hunt, kill and eat an animal which has lived it's life in the wild and not known the levels of sustained pain and suffering which some intensively farmed species endure. As long as it is done in a sustainable way then what's the issue?
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illford baker
Pilots of Damnation death from above..
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced
But just on that logic, What gives us the right to place ourselves as a higher priority than that over animals?
Just because we deem ourselves smarter?
When you have a close look at human behavior, we're nothing more than feral animals who've learnt how to dress nicely and act polite to save face. (look at the world we live in in detail, its quite disgusting how we will walk all over eachother, sell children into slave labor, kill people for their organs, and generaly be nasty, foul, evil people just for the $$) At least animals kill out of necessity to stay alive (eat)
what are you saying, we do have a way higher priority than those dumb animals (and don't give me that dolphins are smart crap, lets see them make their own tools and do the underwater equivalent of fire) because we are smarter. survival of the fittest, sure we are not the biggest or strongest but we made up for it with tools and our intellect. i love meat, and would watch a cow get raised from birth and get killed then eat it without a second thought, but the first thought would be "damn this is fresh". oh, and i have never been hunting, but i would go hunting for sport.
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:13:00 -
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trenny jr
Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced <SNIP> They're doing it with Bacon, needs alot of fine tuning, but it can be done... how long till we will have Vatt grown meat? Since it will not be coming from an animal, and no anmials will be harmed to make it in any way shape or form.. will the Vegan's/Vego's eat it? or will the cry foul and team up with those religious pricks that think that Abortion is wrong even if the person that wants it is 16 and was ****d and has a mental condition which would not allow them to cope with the child.
I agree we aren't perfect but even a feral species value their own above another I'm just being honest here
also I don't agree with abortion (not in all cases, EG the one you described, but most) and am religious please find that comment very offensive tarring a whole ideology with the same brush because of people who have a warped sense of reality.
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Nawt Ovarpwiced on 07/01/2010 00:27:09 Sorry if i have offended, my view on religion is summed up very well by the movie an invention of a lie.
The ammount of war's and arguments and violence started because of relgion & religion vs another religion clashes should make one wonder if the wold would have been better off without any religion whatsoever.
Perhaps if the religions/churches were not used en-mass as sanctuary by peadofiles, tax evasion, hypocrits and sexist ********s i would not look at it so harshly.
I should also bring up, people also would not hate relgion as much if it was not forced apon them, but their choice to choose to learn it during schooling etc. an organisation as old as the church should know very well by now that forcing things on people is not the way to draw them in.
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trenny jr
Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced Edited by: Nawt Ovarpwiced on 07/01/2010 00:27:09 Sorry if i have offended, my view on religion is summed up very well by the movie an invention of a lie.
The ammount of war's and arguments and violence started because of relgion & religion vs another religion clashes should make one wonder if the wold would have been better off without any religion whatsoever.
Perhaps if the religions/churches were not used en-mass as sanctuary by peadofiles, tax evasion, hypocrits and sexist ********s i would not look at it so harshly.
I should also bring up, people also would not hate relgion as much if it was not forced apon them, but their choice to choose to learn it during schooling etc. an organisation as old as the church should know very well by now that forcing things on people is not the way to draw them in.
I don't force my views on anyone no one in my family does either no one religious that I know forces their views upon anyone (I'm from UK btw).
I actually find there is a more overwhelming amount of "OMFG YOU BELIVE IN A GOD LOL YOUR STUPID LOL I R THINK I KNOW YOUR FAITH YOU DONT BELIVE IN EVOLUTISDFONS" all over the place the Internet is a prime example 90% of the people i have spoke to try to convert me(the irony) to atheism which in a way makes me wonder, would there be no war without religion? I for one highly doubt it religion gets bad press due to people who use it as an excuse for wars man by nature will fight be it for religion, supplies or land its inevitable.
alas while this is a debate that isn't flamey we should really stop about here to avoid going to far off topic (if you wish to further it just drop me an eve mail you seem more like someone with alot more backing to their points than the usual trolls)
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:46:00 -
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Without straying too far off topic if you look into things you'll find that almost all 'religious wars' have been about things other than religion. It may be used to justify it to the masses but those in the know had other reasons.
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nahtoh
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Antaeus Combine
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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:15:00 -
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So a smaller faster and more manovable boat gets totaled by a larger slower less manorvable ship...oh yeah thats got to be the whaling ships fault...like hell it is.
Moral of the story small fiberglass craft should not play chicken with large metal boats, what a bunch of loons. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.07 01:47:00 -
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i like you Trenny, we can have a civil conversation on the topic without screaming :) But yeah best we drop it before it goes nuts.
Just had lunch (im at work) and was looking @ the local paper, seems its Aussies/Kiwi's on the ship (im an aussie)
From the report, the whaling ship was in Australian waters, the enviromentalists had been shadowing the ship the entire time, and had run low on fuel so had parked beside one of the whaling ships (2 whaling ships, 2 enviromentalist ships) when 1 of the whaling ships started up and rammed it.
The ship that rammed the enviromentalists ship was the "bodygard" to the actual ship which was doing the whaling.
That is how a small nimble ship gets rammed by a big one. By the little one sitting there not moving and the big one starting up the charge from short distance.
Japan has also been using charterd planes in Australia to fly over the area as lookout/relay information to the whaling ships. Sounds to me like someone's in Aussie waters looking to harpoon some whales illigealy.
Enviromentalists were there to try and make sure they did not. Whalers got ****y they couldent shoot any whales and rammed them on the way out.
Full story here: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26560747-952,00.html
So, now that the event has been explained, and its not "enviromentalists were harassing a boat which rammed them" are you still on the whalers side?
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Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:01:00 -
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If whales taste good, we should eat them.
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Major Cannabis
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Major Cannabis on 07/01/2010 02:29:10 I am so happy to replay to this thread.. You know, people who run around trying to help the whales have some nerve! Those people are only do gooders for their own agenda.
They just wanna show some family pics of "Oh look what i did for the world" Who are they to head into international waters and tell other countries how to live!
Let's see these same arm chair goodie doers take a portion of their pay checks and send it to people who are dying from starvation, not just once, but for life, Yeah right, picture that! What a bunch of hypocrites. I say the Japanese should SINK that whole fleet!
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Dannerkongen
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:45:00 -
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its not about wheter or not its cruel to farm and kill a cow for food. its about protecting the species!
caspian, bali and javan tigers r dead! i guess we didnt need them anyways! RIP focking cats.
what abotu them bottlenose dolphins!! good ridins! now we can powerboat down the amazon without worryign about our propellers
and whales! seriously the posters look stupid and they sing like crap who needs them!! and moby **** wtf?
lets extinct (insert name of human subrace here)! i certainly dotn need them! especially not on my block!
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Nawt Ovarpwiced
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Posted - 2010.01.07 03:00:00 -
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Let me tell you something.
Since we're an allmighty and superior species.... us being alive depends on an insect.
You're thinking bull**** right?
How do you get fruit?
Trees
How do tree's make fruit? By flower's that are pollinated by Bee's.
Guess what's happening to the Bee's?
They're becoming endangerd. the USA is IMPORTING bee's from Australia. A mite is attacking bee's, latching onto them and hitching a ride to the hive, then chow'ing down on the bee larvae. Bee populations are plummeting because of this.
Bee's Die?? = No produce from tree's/plants
No produce from tree's/plants? We dont get to eat it, and move to other food supplies
Can the world live off a food supply that consists entirely of Meat?
No.
So "superior" are we to nature and the animals, but how easily we forget how dependant we are on them.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.07 03:07:00 -
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I hope all you do gooders realize that whales are no longer in danger of going extinct and that the current US compiled list of 'endangered' whales has faaaaar moar to do with international politics than any real sense that japan is about to kill all teh cute whales in teh pacific for evah and evah.
Here is a nice little summary of teh ebil nippons plans to kill all teh whales.
Quote: Endangered species
This year's hunt will include the sei species of whale, which has remained untouched for the past 26 years.
Japan's planned whale catch 150 minke 50 Bryde 50 sei 10 sperm
The United States lists the pointed-snout sei whale as endangered, but Japan says the species has swelled from 9,000 in 1978 to about 28,000.
"Sei whales are much larger than other whales, such as the minkes, and eat more fish," said Takanori Nagatomo of the Japanese Fisheries Agency.
"It is impossible to know their impact on the marine environment without knowing how much, and what, they eat," he said.
Japan blames the whales' huge consumption of fish for a 50% drop in fish catches over the past 20 years.
Washington has in the past threatened sanctions over the expansion of Japan's whaling programme, but Japan remains defiant, accusing its critics of hypocrisy and insisting there are enough stocks for a return to controlled commercial whaling.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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nahtoh
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Antaeus Combine
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Posted - 2010.01.07 03:13:00 -
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Edited by: nahtoh on 07/01/2010 03:14:31
Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced i like you Trenny, we can have a civil conversation on the topic without screaming :) But yeah best we drop it before it goes nuts.
Just had lunch (im at work) and was looking @ the local paper, seems its Aussies/Kiwi's on the ship (im an aussie)
From the report, the whaling ship was in Australian waters, the enviromentalists had been shadowing the ship the entire time, and had run low on fuel so had parked beside one of the whaling ships (2 whaling ships, 2 enviromentalist ships) when 1 of the whaling ships started up and rammed it.
The ship that rammed the enviromentalists ship was the "bodygard" to the actual ship which was doing the whaling.
That is how a small nimble ship gets rammed by a big one. By the little one sitting there not moving and the big one starting up the charge from short distance.
Japan has also been using charterd planes in Australia to fly over the area as lookout/relay information to the whaling ships. Sounds to me like someone's in Aussie waters looking to harpoon some whales illigealy.
Enviromentalists were there to try and make sure they did not. Whalers got ****y they couldent shoot any whales and rammed them on the way out.
Full story here: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26560747-952,00.html
So, now that the event has been explained, and its not "enviromentalists were harassing a boat which rammed them" are you still on the whalers side?
Your link says absolutly nothing about running low on fuel and the vid clearly shows it was under power, in fact most of it was about a mbr of the green party wanting the Aus goverment to replace the privte boat from goverment funds and requesting a naval ship on station in the area... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced Let me tell you something.
Since we're an allmighty and superior species.... us being alive depends on an insect.
You're thinking bull**** right?
How do you get fruit?
Trees
How do tree's make fruit? By flower's that are pollinated by Bee's.
Guess what's happening to the Bee's?
They're becoming endangerd. the USA is IMPORTING bee's from Australia. A mite is attacking bee's, latching onto them and hitching a ride to the hive, then chow'ing down on the bee larvae. Bee populations are plummeting because of this.
Bee's Die?? = No produce from tree's/plants
No produce from tree's/plants? We dont get to eat it, and move to other food supplies
Can the world live off a food supply that consists entirely of Meat?
No.
So "superior" are we to nature and the animals, but how easily we forget how dependant we are on them.
We can make robot bees! We have the technology!!!!
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Information i got was from the newspaper article, went to the news website and it had that article there, guess its not the same as the one in the paper.
Because im incredibly bored, i'll type it lol.
Source: Thursday 7th Jan 2010 - The Courier Mail - Front page (continued page 2)
"Whale War" Diplomatic row flares as protesters rescued from rammed boat
Writer: Emma Chalmers - Canberra
Anti-whaling protestors have accused the Japanese of a high-seas hit-and-run after their boat was rammed in the Southern Ocean yesturday, propelling Australia into a diplomatic storm. Six crew were rescued from the trimaran Ady Gil after it was involved in a dramatic clash with a security ship shadowing the Japanese whaling fleet about 2300km south of Tasmania. Australia and Japan appeared headed for another diplomatic imbroglio last night, with the FEderal Goernment calling for an end to the violence and Japan accusing protestors of "felonious behaviour" and demanding the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society be reined in.
Enviromental Minister Peter Garrett last night condemned the clash and said the collision between the warring parties was very concerning. "The Government takes very, very seriously, very seriously indeed, any violent or dangerous activity that's conducted in the Sothern Ocean" he said. "We repeat our call for restraint to all parties"
The Sea Shepherd group kept up its war in words, saying the attack was unprevoked and deliberate, "ripping eight feet of the bow of the vessel completel,y off", with the $3 million trimaran probably unsalvagable.
"The Japanese whalers have now esculated this conflict very violently," Sea Shepherd captain Paul Watson said. "We now have a real whale war on our hands"
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He said if the Japanese whalers believed Sea Shepherd's remaining two ships would retreat from the Southern Ocean they were mistaken.
Crew of the damaged vessel Ady Gil said the trimaran had been stopped in the water when the Shonan Maru No.2 "suddenly started up" and careerd towards them, ramming the boat and taking off its nose. The crew was rescued by sister ship the Bob BArker. There were no injuries.
Capt Watson accused the Japanese of abandoning the damaged vessel and urged the Federal Government to send the navy to protect the lives of the 21 Australians trying to impede the Japanese hunt, which protesters say is illegal.
The collision with the Shonan Maru No.2 followed the Ady Gil's confrontation with tthe Japanese whaler Nisshin Maru, with Japan alleging its crew was fired on with butyric acid-filled projectiles and laser beams. Vision released by the Japanese yesturday showed the Ady Gil shadowing the Nisshin Maru.
Japan's institute of Cetacean Research also accused the activists of trying to jam its vessel's rudder with towing rope and said the protesters were becoming more violent. "The Institute of Cetacean Research strongly condems the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society extremist actions which threaten the safety of Japanese whale research vessels and crews," it said.
The ICR called on Australia, with New Zealand and the Netherlands (the flag states of the Sea Shepherd vessels) to stop the protesters and observe "their international obligations and deal with the Sea Shepherd in a strict and objective manner"/
The incident comes two years after Australia-Japan tensions flared when two anti-whaling protestors were held hostage after boarding a Japanese ship.
It was also revealed yesturday that the Japanese Government was spying on the group in the Southern Ocean using planes charterd in Australia. Acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the Government was taking urgent legal advice to see wether it could stop the spy planes.
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(article 2/2) Source: The Curior Mail - Thursday 7th Jan 2010 - Page 2
"One crunch and the bow was gone" By Jason Stewart - Ady Gil Crew Member
"WE'D had different skirmishes with the Nisshin Maru, the factory ship, but we were running low on fuel and so we basically disengaged and were sitting next to the Bob Barker.
"We were basicly stopped more or less alongside them sort of waving goodbye when the Shonan MAru II came up behind them and just rammed us and took the whole nose off our boat.
"I couldn't see because i was inside the boat. But i could hear the sonic equipment and i could hear them getting closer and closer.
"I looked out the port side window and i could see the bow of the Shonan Maru II coming straight at us.
"I was stunned basically and the next minute, wack. There was a big crunch and they took the front of the boat off.
"I looked forward and i could see daylight out the front of the boat. Other crew members were spun around but i diddnt have that perception from inside. The boat has't sunk, we were very lucky i guess.
"I think one of the things that contributed to that was we were low on fuel so the bow was sitting proud off the water. If the bow had been sitting lower it would have taken on water. We were lucky we had the Bob Barker nearby and they were able to come to our rescue.
"I was told to put out a mayday call, which i did, and the Bob Barker responded to that. They put all the crew on an inflatable boat and brought htem over to the Bob BArker.
Infobox thing: Ady Gil
= Previously called Earthrace = Speed up to 50 knots (92km/h) = What it does: Used to intercept and block Japanese harpoon ships from slaughtering whales =What it is: A timaran reinforced with kevlar for strength. Coverd with radar-deflective paint.
"No stepping back from the annual 'scientific' slaughter"
JAPAN is one of the five nations involved in commercial whaling, along with Canada, Norway, Iceland and Greenland. There was hope that Japan's new centre-left Government might alter the country's policy on whaling, but there has been no change in official support for the annual slaughter. Last season japan took about 960 whales from Antartic waters, said to be for scientific research. Whale meat is widely avaliable as food in Japan. Japanese proponents of the annual hunt say the meat is a traditional source of food and attack Australia for attempting to impose on its culture. Australia is one of seven countries to lay claim to Antartic territories, but the claims are not universally recognised. A series of treaties means all nations can explore Antartica for scientific purposes.
zzzz im still bored after all that. 2hrs till i can go home, yey.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Pixie Cats
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Posted - 2010.01.07 04:13:00 -
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the incident from another viewpoint
Shows that the Japanese Shonan Maru is highly manuverable for its size and moves towards the ady gil just before the collision and away from it after, notably this is a protection vessel and not a whaling trawler. I can see no bow wave on the ady gil so assume it must be stationary.
There seems to be a lot of nutcases on both sides of this argument, sure environmentalists can go too far but more often money goes too far in the other direction.
I'm glad that sea shepard and greenpeace are out there doing what they are, not because I'm an environmentalist but because we live on the scabby crust of a molten ball of ferrous gloop that has a habit of wiping out most of its inhabitants every now and again.
Until the day mankind has stable populations independent of planet earth we should respect how mother nature doesn't give a crap about us and learn to safeguard our own resource supplies.
Originally by: Neil Armstrong
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer I trol u.
Seriously though... what makes a whale so special in comparison to any other mammal, fish, reptile, bird or insect? It's far more humane to hunt, kill and eat an animal which has lived it's life in the wild and not known the levels of sustained pain and suffering which some intensively farmed species endure. As long as it is done in a sustainable way then what's the issue?
The issue is that it's a ****ing insult to real pirates to call those loons "nothing short of pirates". Now if they started taking down Japanese "Research" vessels, taking captives and asking questions later on, then we can talk.
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Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.01.07 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat the incident from another viewpoint
Interesting angle and it certainly looks like the security vessel veered into the econuts. But that only goes to prove it has been a long bitter war on both sides. What never seems to come out in the press is when they endanger the lives of the fishermen by throwing various noxious chemicals onto the decks of the whalers that cause extreme nausia and sickness or even use weapons grade lasers to blind the pilots and harpooners of the ships sometimes with permanent loss of vision. Sea Shepard is nothing moar than a bunch of glory seeking cowboys doing anything and everything to sell ratings on their discovery channel show. Ya there is mucho money involved on all sides and everyone is dirty.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.07 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer I trol u.
Seriously though... what makes a whale so special in comparison to any other mammal, fish, reptile, bird or insect? It's far more humane to hunt, kill and eat an animal which has lived it's life in the wild and not known the levels of sustained pain and suffering which some intensively farmed species endure. As long as it is done in a sustainable way then what's the issue?
The issue is that it's a ****ing insult to real pirates to call those loons "nothing short of pirates". Now if they started taking down Japanese "Research" vessels, taking captives and asking questions later on, then we can talk.
I bolded the important part for you.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 12:42:00 -
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save the whale-thread
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Thuranni
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced
But just on that logic, What gives us the right to place ourselves as a higher priority than that over animals?
The fact that we are the dominant species on the planet and have the capability to murder the hell out of them when we so desire gives us the right to claim whatever animals we please as pray.
I never understood anti-whalers. Go ahead, eat that cow but OH GOD SAVE THE WHALES.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni I never understood anti-whalers. Go ahead, eat that cow but OH GOD SAVE THE WHALES.
Cattle are bred for their meat en mass. Whales are not, and are fairly quickly going extinct. You're comparing a Rifter to a Raven...
Edit: No, really, that comparison makes no sense! I don't care either way on the issue itself, but your reasoning is several degrees of madness.
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Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Thuranni I never understood anti-whalers. Go ahead, eat that cow but OH GOD SAVE THE WHALES.
Cattle are bred for their meat en mass. Whales are not, and are fairly quickly going extinct. You're comparing a Rifter to a Raven...
Edit: No, really, that comparison makes no sense! I don't care either way on the issue itself, but your reasoning is several degrees of madness.
ill make it make some sense compare it to a noob in a rifter in low sec and a mission runner in a raven in low sec
the second ones a dying breed :(
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.07 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni
Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced
But just on that logic, What gives us the right to place ourselves as a higher priority than that over animals?
The fact that we are the dominant species on the planet and have the capability to murder the hell out of them when we so desire gives us the right to claim whatever animals we please as pray.
I never understood anti-whalers. Go ahead, eat that cow but OH GOD SAVE THE WHALES.
One species is endangered, one is not. Quite simple really. Now pass me the tiger sausage!
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:13:00 -
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LAUNCH THE WHALE FARMS
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 07/01/2010 14:20:15
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
One species is endangered, one is not.
All the more reason to enjoy their tasty goodness while we still have the chance.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 07/01/2010 14:20:15
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
One species is endangered, one is not.
All the more reason to enjoy their tasty goodness while we still have the chance.
I hear people taste better.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Thuranni
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Thuranni on 07/01/2010 14:27:18
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Cattle are bred for their meat en mass. Whales are not, and are fairly quickly going extinct. You're comparing a Rifter to a Raven...
Edit: No, really, that comparison makes no sense! I don't care either way on the issue itself, but your reasoning is several degrees of madness.
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
One species is endangered, one is not. Quite simple really. Now pass me the tiger sausage!
The species of whales mostly commercially hunted around the globe, the species of whales these particular hunters were hunting, the Minke whale, is about as endangered as the domesticated cow.
At least try to get some information on the subject before buying into the eco-terrorist propaganda.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni Edited by: Thuranni on 07/01/2010 14:28:31
Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Cattle are bred for their meat en mass. Whales are not, and are fairly quickly going extinct. You're comparing a Rifter to a Raven...
Edit: No, really, that comparison makes no sense! I don't care either way on the issue itself, but your reasoning is several degrees of madness.
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
One species is endangered, one is not. Quite simple really. Now pass me the tiger sausage!
The species of whales mostly commercially hunted around the globe, and the species of whales these particular hunters were hunting, the Minke whale, is about as endangered as the domesticated cow.
At least try to get some information on the subject before buying into the eco-terrorist propaganda.
Yet it's ok to buy into wikipedia notes and capi-terrorist propaganda? If not monitored I'm fairly sure these whalers would nail every species of whale they could land.
You can trust a fisherman as much as you can a hunter, opportunists both.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Thuranni
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Thuranni on 07/01/2010 14:54:05
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Yet it's ok to buy into wikipedia notes and capi-terrorist propaganda? If not monitored I'm fairly sure these whalers would nail every species of whale they could land.
You can trust a fisherman as much as you can a hunter, opportunists both.
Way to put words in my mouth. I simply used the wikipedia article to demonstrate what exactly a Minke Whale is, since many people would not know. It is a very established fact that Minke are not endangered in the least, and the small numbers hunted each year have a negligible effect on their population.
And these whalers are monitored. By these things called "governments". Not by a bunch of quasi-activist reality TV stars. Also, I take a lot of offense to your demonizing of all fishermen and whalers. It's very easy to be arrogant like that from the comfort of your privileged, first world living from behind the glow of your computer monitor.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.07 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
I trol u.
Seriously though... what makes a whale so special in comparison to any other mammal, fish, reptile, bird or insect? It's far more humane to hunt, kill and eat an animal which has lived it's life in the wild and not known the levels of sustained pain and suffering which some intensively farmed species endure. As long as it is done in a sustainable way then what's the issue?
They are being hunted into extinction?
Hunting endangered animals makes about as much sense as punching yourself in the balls to prevent your woman from getting pregnent.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
They are being hunted into extinction?
Hunting endangered animals makes about as much sense as punching yourself in the balls to prevent your woman from getting pregnent.
WHALES ARE NOT BEING HUNTED TO EXTINCTION. ONLY A TINY NUMBER OF WHALES ARE HUNTED EACH YEAR, AND THE SPECIES BEING HUNTED AREN'T EVEN REMOTELY THREATENED.
Christ. You people need to at least pretend to know what you're talking about before sprouting bull****.
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.07 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
I trol u.
Seriously though... what makes a whale so special in comparison to any other mammal, fish, reptile, bird or insect? It's far more humane to hunt, kill and eat an animal which has lived it's life in the wild and not known the levels of sustained pain and suffering which some intensively farmed species endure. As long as it is done in a sustainable way then what's the issue?
They are being hunted into extinction?
Hunting endangered animals makes about as much sense as punching yourself in the balls to prevent your woman from getting pregnent.
No they're not. See the post above yours.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:12:00 -
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Currently North Atlantic Cod and Tuna fisheries are in more dire situations then most whale species.
Where are the fish protectors?
Fish rarely get the activist attention because they are neither cute nor fuzzy. Also when fish do get the attention it will usually be in the US and they will typically be fresh water species.
Only when something like the 1970's collapse of North Atlantic Cod population do salt water species get much attention. We will also slowly begin to see this with the tuna fisheries but it will never reach the activist level that comes close to the whaling protest boats. Especially in the North Atlantic fisheries
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Hunting endangered animals makes about as much sense as punching yourself in the balls to prevent your woman from getting pregnent.
May not make sense but historically has happened numerous times.
For instance Canada refused to rein in its fishermen and the utterly collapsed the Cod stocks they had there. There is a similar row going on in the US now where they want to impose severe limits on some fishing. The fishermen are furious because it is their livelihood. But the fact remains, left to themselves, they would annihilate fish stocks and then everyone is screwed.
This is not about being a tree hugging vegan. This is about proper management of resources. Left to themselves fishermen and hunters will absolutely hunt a species to extinction (witness Bison which came very, very close to extinction via hunting).
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Left to themselves fishermen and hunters will absolutely hunt a species to extinction (witness Bison which came very, very close to extinction via hunting).
Many species of whales North American Grey Wolves Puma and/or the North American Mountain Lions Many sub species of apes Most species of large Asiatic and African cats Most species of African and Asiatic Elephants Many species of larger deer, elk, and other large and small subspecies in the Cervidae family. More the a few species of seal.
For some ****s and giggles; there are those that would say the North American Ancestors approximately 10-12,000 years ago hunted a few species to extinction.
* woolly mammoths
* Columbian mammoths
* American mastodons
* three types of ground sloths
* glyptodonts
* giant armadillos
* several species of horses
* four species of pronghorn antelopes
* three species of camels
* giant deer
* several species of oxen
* giant bison
University Of California, Santa Barbara (2001, June 8). Humans Hunted Mammals To Extinction In North America. ScienceDaily.
Well my opinion is that the human species is a parasite with the capability to control their destiny. Whether or not we do that has yet to be determined.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon Currently North Atlantic Cod and Tuna fisheries are in more dire situations then most whale species.
Where are the fish protectors?
Fish rarely get the activist attention because they are neither cute nor fuzzy. Also when fish do get the attention it will usually be in the US and they will typically be fresh water species.
There are fish protectors out there. They just do not get the press. Activists absolutely rail against factory fishing which use drift nets and such.
Problem is fishing is a big industry and whole communities depend on it for their livelihood. When the public is faced with starving families versus a Cod they tend to sympathize with the humans.
When it comes to fish it is about sustainable harvesting. Unfortunately the market is bigger than what is sustainable.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:46:00 -
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If mankind dies out within the next few thousand years, the next intelligent species evolving in some 20-60 million years will recognize our existence merely as a mass extinction event. --------
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
There are fish protectors out there. They just do not get the press. Activists absolutely rail against factory fishing which use drift nets and such.
Problem is fishing is a big industry and whole communities depend on it for their livelihood. When the public is faced with starving families versus a Cod they tend to sympathize with the humans.
When it comes to fish it is about sustainable harvesting. Unfortunately the market is bigger than what is sustainable.
Most definetly. "Where are the fish protectors?" Was more of a redundant question.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Minmatar Pixie Cats
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Posted - 2010.01.07 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Thuranni
WHALES ARE NOT BEING HUNTED TO EXTINCTION. ONLY A TINY NUMBER OF WHALES ARE HUNTED EACH YEAR, AND THE SPECIES BEING HUNTED AREN'T EVEN REMOTELY THREATENED.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:07:00 -
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Nothing more than attention w.hores. The message they try to send to the world is ok, but their aggressive behaviour is just plain stupid.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: FinalFlash84 Nothing more than attention w.hores. The message they try to send to the world is ok, but their aggressive behaviour is just plain stupid.
Famous quote of the Japanese ():Inappropriate comments removed. StevieSG
haha loser flash calls others for attention *****s!!
what a joker
also you must ask your babuscka to tell you difference between aggressive and protective behavior! silly noob! go and be mean to a kitten you little teenager
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Originally by: Trathen I am no fan of the practice of Japanese whaling but "Greenpeace ecoterrorism" is my second favorite oxymoron spawned from dogma, right behind "Pro-life assassin."
I couldn't care less to be honest, whale tastes good and very little of them gets wasted in comparison to many other animals that are hunted for food.
Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced Let me tell you something.
Since we're an allmighty and superior species.... us being alive depends on an insect.
You're thinking bull**** right?
How do you get fruit?
Trees
How do tree's make fruit? By flower's that are pollinated by Bee's.
Guess what's happening to the Bee's?
They're becoming endangerd. the USA is IMPORTING bee's from Australia. A mite is attacking bee's, latching onto them and hitching a ride to the hive, then chow'ing down on the bee larvae. Bee populations are plummeting because of this.
Bee's Die?? = No produce from tree's/plants
No produce from tree's/plants? We dont get to eat it, and move to other food supplies
Can the world live off a food supply that consists entirely of Meat?
No.
So "superior" are we to nature and the animals, but how easily we forget how dependant we are on them.
I can't possibly take a lecture by you on anything even remotely seriously until you learn how to correctly utilise apostrophes.
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This is funny:
Quote: After Sea Shepherd purchased a small submarine in 1994, the Canadian navy said it would be too dangerous for a civilian to operate. Watson's reply to Canada: "Since World War II, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has boarded more ships, rammed more ships, engaged in more high-seas confrontations and sunk more ships than the Canadian navy."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1952194,00.html#ixzz0byEWFOMc
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*Eh ...*
1) The reason for not killing whales and dolphins is that they are as intelligent as we are - if not more so. That is the reason for that. Not just that some of them were becoming extinct. We protect them because they are the other intelligent species on this planet. They were the other branch on the evolutionary tree - that went back to the water. Killing a whale or a dolphin is like killing a human being. *shrug* If you can't see that - look in a mirror and see an idiot.
2) I watched the Whale Wars videos on the Animal Planet channel and the Sea Shepard folks are a bunch of jack asses. They have no idea what they are doing out there. These clowns keep trying to get up next to a large processing ship with multiple water cannon and throw their little bottles of chemicals onto the deck to try and taint the meat so it can't be used. These jack asses have a helicopter! They could just fly above the ship - or along side one of the whalers and bomb the meat from there. All in all - yes - they are just a bunch of silly hippies with no real idea what they are doing.
3) The idea that that Japanese boat is a research vessel is absurd. That's just a lie they've made up to circumvent treaties Japan signed.
4) The idea that it is the whales responsible for the depleted fishing grounds is equally absurd. Very highly organized, efficient fish harvesting is responsible for depopulating the fishing grounds. What's really going on here - is that like a farmer who'd shoot ten wolves to save one of his sheep - the fishing industry doesn't care how much the whales are eating - they care that the whales are eating ANY of it.
5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
6) There are a number of efforts to try and breed fish in ocean pens but that's just starting out.
7) If you watch that Whale Wars show ... if it comes on again, you'll see that the Sea Shepard people have really antagonized those Japanese whalers. They have had at least one collision in the past where they tried to cut in between a whaler and the processing ship to try and keep it from transferring the whale it had killed. So I'm not surprised that the whalers finally got ****ed off enough to just go ram one of them (as the you tube video shows).
8) As to the Sea Shepard vessels - the Steve Irwin is a fairly large trawler type. It is a substantial vessel. What the did in the past was launch Zodiacs and a helicopter to act as their fast attack craft. Now, apparently, they have a couple of lareger vessels in addition to the Irwin, the Bob Barker and ... up until lately ... the Ady Gil. I don't know about any more but they seem to have gotten some more money.
9) What the legality of all this is ... I have no idea. The Japanese whalers are lying about being research vessels - the Sea Shepard's are very aggressive in harassing them. Both sides are skirting along the edge of the law, essentially getting away with what they can. The Irwin had police waiting when it came home after the ramming.
10) All in all - I'm surprised no one has been killed in all this. A Japanese sailor fell over board once ... and they may have had other industrial casualties as most such operations do - but I'm unaware of anyone being killed or if the Japanese have had anyone injured seriously by the Shepards.
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Culmen
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Edited by: Culmen on 07/01/2010 23:42:25 Put it on the killboards
2010.01.07 03:30:00
Victim: Ady Gil Corp: Sea Shepherds Alliance: Ecohippies Faction: NONE Destroyed: Fiberglass Trimaran System: Antarctic Ocean Security: 0.2 Damage Taken: 1337
Name: Shonan Maru 2 (laid the final blow) Security: -0.03 Corp: Institute of Cetacean Research Alliance: Nakabe Scientific Research Centre Faction: Japan Ship: Yushin Maru class harpoon vessel Weapon: Solid Steel Hull I Damage Done: 1337
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Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 08/01/2010 00:06:50 They really should have tanked kinetic.
Put it on the killboards
2010.01.07 03:30:00
Victim: Ady Gil Corp: Sea Shepherds Alliance: Ecohippies Faction: NONE Destroyed: Fiberglass Trimaran System: Antarctic Ocean Security: 0.2 Damage Taken: 1337
Name: Shonan Maru 2 (laid the final blow) Security: -0.03 Corp: Institute of Cetacean Research Alliance: Nakabe Scientific Research Centre Faction: Japan Ship: Yushin Maru class harpoon vessel Weapon: Solid Steel Hull I Damage Done: 1337
LOL!!
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Love Denied
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.08 02:03:00 -
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nuke the whales
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Imperator Jora'h
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Originally by: Verone I couldn't care less to be honest, whale tastes good and very little of them gets wasted in comparison to many other animals that are hunted for food.
Never saw Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home did you? What kind of self respecting internet spaceship guy are you? Had you seen that you'd know we are all doomed when the whale aliens come looking for their buddies!
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Minmatar
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Verone I couldn't care less to be honest, whale tastes good and very little of them gets wasted in comparison to many other animals that are hunted for food.
Never saw Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home did you? What kind of self respecting internet spaceship guy are you? Had you seen that you'd know we are all doomed when the whale aliens come looking for their buddies!
Just the Japanese and only the anime freaks and console tards will care
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc. Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2010.01.08 07:24:00 -
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"The bigass ship always has the right of way".
It is quite obvious why here .
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Foodpimp
Gallente Heaven's Harvesters Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.01.08 07:36:00 -
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Whales and Eve Pilots....
Two things that move in Pods!!!!
WACKA WACKA WACKA!!
I'll be here all week folks....remember to tip your waitress!!!
GOOD NIGHT!
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Imperator Jora'h
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Originally by: Foodpimp Whales and Eve Pilots....
Two things that move in Pods!!!!
We've got a Rorqual and Orca too!
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Thuranni
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk *Eh ...*
1) The reason for not killing whales and dolphins is that they are as intelligent as we are - if not more so. That is the reason for that. Not just that some of them were becoming extinct. We protect them because they are the other intelligent species on this planet. They were the other branch on the evolutionary tree - that went back to the water. Killing a whale or a dolphin is like killing a human being. *shrug* If you can't see that - look in a mirror and see an idiot.
You seriously believe that whales and dolphins are as intelligent, or possibly moreso, than human beings?
Quote: 5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
It's called making a living. It's kind of important to grown ups, and vital to their continued existence.
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Minmatar Pixie Cats
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Edited by: yani dumyat on 08/01/2010 14:30:20
Originally by: Thuranni
Quote: 5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
It's called making a living. It's kind of important to grown ups.
Fishing cod till the stock collapses isn't grown up, it's gross stupidity on so many levels.
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Path of Now and Forever
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Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 08/01/2010 00:06:50 They really should have tanked kinetic.
Put it on the killboards
2010.01.07 03:30:00
Victim: Ady Gil Corp: Sea Shepherds Alliance: Ecohippies Faction: NONE Destroyed: Fiberglass Trimaran System: Antarctic Ocean Security: 0.2 Damage Taken: 1337
Name: Shonan Maru 2 (laid the final blow) Security: -0.03 Corp: Institute of Cetacean Research Alliance: Nakabe Scientific Research Centre Faction: Japan Ship: Yushin Maru class harpoon vessel Weapon: Solid Steel Hull I Damage Done: 1337
does anyone know if they dropped good loot? well at least their rubber pod got away
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Originally by: Thuranni Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
It's called making a living. It's kind of important to grown ups.
I am not sure if you realize how much man can truly **** up ecosystems.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Imperator Jora'h
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Originally by: Thuranni You seriously believe that whales and dolphins are as intelligent, or possibly moreso, than human beings? I don't even know what to say, man. Recent studies show that Dolphins *may* be as intelligent or slightly more intelligent than chimpanzees - Which demonstrate, at most, intellect similar to a 3 year old child. I am not familiar with *any* studies which show that the commonly hunted whales such as Minke are any more intelligent than your average cow.
I find it completely mind boggling that media hype has convinced people like yourself that whales are as intelligent as human beings, or possibly even more intelligent. If they are so ****ing intelligent, why haven't they made some attempt at contacting us to tell us that, "Hey, guys, can you please stop murdering us?".
I find it completely astounding that media hype and groups like Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd have managed to convince people like yourself that whales may be our intellectual superiors.
Do me a favor.
Define intelligence.
Not the dictionary definition. Really pin it down for us. Realize if you manage that you will have done something no one has been able to manage in human history despite a lot of attempts. For instance your cat (if you have one) would seem pretty dumb trying to play chess. From the cat's perspective you'd look pretty dumb running around a field trying to catch a mouse.
Further, tell me how intelligence is the sole arbiter of value? Is it ok to kill someone who is severely mentally deficient? They may be dumber than my dog so no biggie if I run them over or something right?
Certainly we are less concerned smushing a bug than (say) a cat but the point is the value of something is measured on numerous levels. Intelligence is just one.
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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OK; if whales are so intelligent, why do they keep swimming so near to Japan?
Hah. Answer that and stay fashionable.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain OK; if whales are so intelligent, why do they keep swimming so near to Japan?
Hah. Answer that and stay fashionable.
Nobody sold them maps. Duuuh. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 09/01/2010 05:51:45
Quote: 5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
Yeah every time I get a copy of Forbes, there is a damn Japanese whaler on the cover. A pox on the wicked soul who accepts one of the most dangerous jobs in the world to support his family. Oh, and if he didn't take the job, it would be a victory for anti-whalers everywhere! Take that, debatable progress towards a lowered whale population! I may live in a cardboard box while my children starve, but I will not support carnivores.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 09/01/2010 11:44:46
Originally by: Thuranni Edited by: Thuranni on 08/01/2010 13:10:31
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk *Eh ...*
1) The reason for not killing whales and dolphins is that they are as intelligent as we are - if not more so. That is the reason for that. Not just that some of them were becoming extinct. We protect them because they are the other intelligent species on this planet. They were the other branch on the evolutionary tree - that went back to the water. Killing a whale or a dolphin is like killing a human being. *shrug* If you can't see that - look in a mirror and see an idiot.
You seriously believe that whales and dolphins are as intelligent, or possibly moreso, than human beings? I don't even know what to say, man. Recent studies show that Dolphins *may* be as intelligent or slightly more intelligent than chimpanzees - Which demonstrate, at most, intellect similar to a 3 year old child. I am not familiar with *any* studies which show that the commonly hunted whales such as Minke are any more intelligent than your average cow.
I find it completely mind boggling that media hype has convinced people like yourself that whales are as intelligent as human beings, or possibly even more intelligent. If they are so ****ing intelligent, why haven't they made some attempt at contacting us to tell us that, "Hey, guys, can you please stop murdering us?".
I find it completely astounding that media hype and groups like Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd have managed to convince people like yourself that whales may be our intellectual superiors.
Quote: 5) I've known some fishermen ... and by and large - they are only interested in putting money in their wallets. They don't give a damn - for the most part - about anything else. Now ... that said ... I also know people - who know fishermen who were killed by sharks trying to save dolphins caught in nets ... so it isn't one way ... but mostly - these guys work very, very hard - so they can make lots and lots of money. They have done to good a job and now we are having a problem. With all the money they have invested in their ships and equipment though - they don't care that they are depopulating the oceans ... they just won't look that far ahead. To focused on making money - NOW!!!!!
It's called making a living. It's kind of important to grown ups.
1) I've also worked with a lot of people who worked with Dolphins and such as - part of their jobs. That's where I got my understanding of their intelligence. Don't know where you got yours. Oh ... and I did say "if" not more so ... The thing is - chimps are actually pretty damn smart. They can talk to us using sign language and a number have been trained to do so. Even if they are only as intelligent as three year olds - 3 year olds are humans and ... if it's OK to hunt, kill and eat animals with the intelligence of a three year old human - then is it OK to hunt, kill and eat 3 year old humans?
2) How many people do we have who make a living killing and eating Chimps? Is that condoned by the international community? Most of the people in the world - who don't have eating whales and apes as part of their culture - pretty much condemn eating such intelligent species.
- Remember that part where I mentioned looking in the mirror?
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 12:52:00 -
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I make a living killing and eating chimps... Hulkageddon!
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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kangwo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgQ0mXFoTsg
boo hoo the garbage scow got sanked
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