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Clone 231B
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:07:00 -
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All I am asking for is a way to probe them down. Covert ops cloaks work fine, its every other ship in the galaxy that fits cloaks and can disengage and hide without consequence. Is this really what is intended?
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Billy Cornpipe
Cornpipe Tactical and Logistics
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:09:00 -
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yes
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McBrite
Blackwater Forceful Aquisitions
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B All I am asking for is a way to probe them down. Covert ops cloaks work fine, its every other ship in the galaxy that fits cloaks and can disengage and hide without consequence. Is this really what is intended?
So how do they manage that? If you can't cloak while locked?
Dumb troll thread, request lock... http://www.battleclinic.com/kill_sigs/signature_display.php?string=McBrite |
Clone 231B
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Clone 231B on 19/12/2009 19:23:25 I wonder.... I would guess you stay aligned, anything comes thru thats remotely threatening, and you warp/cloak and become invulnerable.
Please don't troll threads
EDIT: I mean to ask, is it intended that you can sit invulnerable without any way for other players to interact with you in enemy space? IF so, why even have combat probes?
Hell, people can dock up, but you KNOW where they are, and you can disable station services.
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B Is this really what is intended?
Yeah it is. Why would you cloak if not for that reason?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: McBrite
Originally by: Clone 231B All I am asking for is a way to probe them down. Covert ops cloaks work fine, its every other ship in the galaxy that fits cloaks and can disengage and hide without consequence. Is this really what is intended?
So how do they manage that? If you can't cloak while locked?
Dumb troll thread, request lock...
Hunter warps to belt. Prey warps to ss and cloaks rendering even probes useless to find him. Its like a logoffsky that you don't have to logoff to do. However I don't mind the mechanic because if you missed pointing him on the warpin then he would have just logged at the safe anyways and I like my cloaking carrier deep in nullsec.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Alex Raptos
Caldari Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: McBrite
Originally by: Clone 231B All I am asking for is a way to probe them down. Covert ops cloaks work fine, its every other ship in the galaxy that fits cloaks and can disengage and hide without consequence. Is this really what is intended?
So how do they manage that? If you can't cloak while locked?
Dumb troll thread, request lock...
Hunter warps to belt. Prey warps to ss and cloaks rendering even probes useless to find him. Its like a logoffsky that you don't have to logoff to do. However I don't mind the mechanic because if you missed pointing him on the warpin then he would have just logged at the safe anyways and I like my cloaking carrier deep in nullsec.
We shall call this, Cloakoffski!
Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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Clone 231B
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Clone 231B on 19/12/2009 19:28:22
Originally by: Zeba Hunter warps to belt. Prey warps to ss and cloaks rendering even probes useless to find him. Its like a logoffsky that you don't have to logoff to do. However I don't mind the mechanic because if you missed pointing him on the warpin then he would have just logged at the safe anyways and I like my cloaking carrier deep in nullsec.
CCP, honestly you don't see a freaking capital ship cloaking as a problem?
I mean I wanted guerilla warefare as much as the next guy, believe me, but this is the wrong way to do it.
If you want sneak attacks, remove local, don't basically remove the ship from interaction.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B CCP, honestly you don't see a freaking capital ship cloaking as a problem?
I mean I wanted guerilla warefare as much as the next guy, believe me, but this is the wrong way to do it.
If you want sneak attacks, remove local, don't basically remove the ship from interaction.
Sneak attacks with a cloaking carrier? Wat? It's my mobile pos for when I'm arsed to do exploration for the only sites worth running which are all in nullsec. Now otoh I do have a sneak attack cloaking geddon that I sit in a safespot at a uniform distance from the majority of belts so that when I tackle something juicy in my rapier it can just warp to me. Cloak targeting delay runs out on the way in warp and the scan res penalty is nullified by a sebo with res script and max gang skills. Oh how they rage when I cloak back up after killing someone who thought they were hunting me.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:50:00 -
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because of dark matter.
Win a Aeon mothership for 10M ISK |
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Clone 231B
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Clone 231B CCP, honestly you don't see a freaking capital ship cloaking as a problem?
I mean I wanted guerilla warefare as much as the next guy, believe me, but this is the wrong way to do it.
If you want sneak attacks, remove local, don't basically remove the ship from interaction.
Sneak attacks with a cloaking carrier? Wat? It's my mobile pos for when I'm arsed to do exploration for the only sites worth running which are all in nullsec. Now otoh I do have a sneak attack cloaking geddon that I sit in a safespot at a uniform distance from the majority of belts so that when I tackle something juicy in my rapier it can just warp to me. Cloak targeting delay runs out on the way in warp and the scan res penalty is nullified by a sebo with res script and max gang skills. Oh how they rage when I cloak back up after killing someone who thought they were hunting me.
I was addressing CCP, not you, sorry for the confusion. It was meant as seperate statements based on the spacing. Kinda like #1) cloaking cap ship = LOL, then #2)cloaking is not a good way to implement guerilla warefare/sneak attacks from a gameplay standpoint.
Anyway, allow me to recount your geddon tale from a different POV.
Someone was hunting you, so you warped to a safe and became invulnerable to everyone. Then on the way to kill him, a negative side effect of your invulnerability wore off en route, leaving a small penalty easily negated.
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame you in the same way I didn't blame the big alliances for spamming AOE DDs and the rediculous of current DDs. If there is a way to mount an insurmountable advantage, of course your gonna take it.
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 20:06:01 Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 20:05:38 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1217512&page=9
Furb Killer got spanked in Ships and Modules, good idea to post on faceless alt in General Discussion. Yeah, no-one can put 1+1 together.
Grow some and undock.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:08:00 -
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I just tested my cloak it works fine, so dont worry
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Clone 231B
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tagami Wasp Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 20:06:01 Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 19/12/2009 20:05:38 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1217512&page=9
Furb Killer got spanked in Ships and Modules, good idea to post on faceless alt in General Discussion. Yeah, no-one can put 1+1 together.
Grow some and undock.
I love this statement, grow some and undock. You can see how that is easily turned against you right? How is docking any different than safing up and cloaking? Please explain this too me. Tell me how brave it is to sit in a system 100% invulnerable cloaked, and how that is any different from sitting in a station?
I am waiting.
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Passageway
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:13:00 -
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wah wah, I don't like cloaks
suck it up, deal with it
it's a game
:D
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genette devo
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:43:00 -
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oh dear, it's so funny to see the l337 pvp tough guys crying when they fail a gank
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Spurty
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.19 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: genette devo oh dear, it's so funny to see the l337 pvp tough guys crying when they fail a gank
confirming that i was called a Wussie for cloaking my recon in local with 470 hostiles in it.
CCP may remove cloak when they allow me to tank that many peoples drones popped at gates
Would be cool to see more capital sized modules in game though. Sane module that recharges a frigate does the same to a capital. Will not mention lack if stacking penalties with cap recharge modules just in case this thread derails
Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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WarlockX
Amarr Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:15:00 -
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Worthless changing cloaks won't do anything. Instead they will SS + logoff or dock. ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B I was addressing CCP, not you, sorry for the confusion. It was meant as seperate statements based on the spacing. Kinda like #1) cloaking cap ship = LOL, then #2)cloaking is not a good way to implement guerilla warefare/sneak attacks from a gameplay standpoint.
I was addressing an opinion put forth in a general discussion thread in the general discussion forum, sorry for the confusion.
Originally by: Clone 231B Anyway, allow me to recount your geddon tale from a different POV.
Someone was hunting you, so you warped to a safe and became invulnerable to everyone. Then on the way to kill him, a negative side effect of your invulnerability wore off en route, leaving a small penalty easily negated.
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame you in the same way I didn't blame the big alliances for spamming AOE DDs and the rediculous of current DDs. If there is a way to mount an insurmountable advantage, of course your gonna take it.
If you knew what systems I was doing that in and how I had to butcher the geddon to make it viable you would praise me for innovation. I wasn't trying to avoid a fight but to get one on my terms.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B How is docking any different than safing up and cloaking? Please explain this too me.
You can't refit for a better ship to handle the situation as it evolves, why do you ask?
Quote: Tell me how brave it is to sit in a system 100% invulnerable cloaked, and how that is any different from sitting in a station?
The difference is that the ones sitting in station who are complaining – not the cloakers. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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thisisnotright
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B Edited by: Clone 231B on 19/12/2009 19:28:22
Originally by: Zeba Hunter warps to belt. Prey warps to ss and cloaks rendering even probes useless to find him. Its like a logoffsky that you don't have to logoff to do. However I don't mind the mechanic because if you missed pointing him on the warpin then he would have just logged at the safe anyways and I like my cloaking carrier deep in nullsec.
CCP, honestly you don't see a freaking capital ship cloaking as a problem?
I mean I wanted guerilla warefare as much as the next guy, believe me, but this is the wrong way to do it.
If you want sneak attacks, remove local, don't basically remove the ship from interaction.
You are cloaking your main with your stupid alt. You want CCP to fix cloak, post with your main.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: thisisnotright
Originally by: Clone 231B Edited by: Clone 231B on 19/12/2009 19:28:22
Originally by: Zeba Hunter warps to belt. Prey warps to ss and cloaks rendering even probes useless to find him. Its like a logoffsky that you don't have to logoff to do. However I don't mind the mechanic because if you missed pointing him on the warpin then he would have just logged at the safe anyways and I like my cloaking carrier deep in nullsec.
CCP, honestly you don't see a freaking capital ship cloaking as a problem?
I mean I wanted guerilla warefare as much as the next guy, believe me, but this is the wrong way to do it.
If you want sneak attacks, remove local, don't basically remove the ship from interaction.
You are cloaking your main with your stupid alt. You want CCP to fix cloak, post with your main.
Originally by: Akita T We don't hate people like you, we look at you with mostly pity and a hint of disgust balled up in a big wad of "notto disu shi'tto agen".
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar Celtic industries The AsyIum
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Posted - 2009.12.19 21:55:00 -
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They're working as intended.
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AFK Cloaker
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.12.19 22:57:00 -
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Purple Reign Entertainment
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Posted - 2009.12.19 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Clone 231B All I am asking for is a way to probe them down. Covert ops cloaks work fine, its every other ship in the galaxy that fits cloaks and can disengage and hide without consequence. Is this really what is intended?
What do you suggest? Remove cloaks completely?
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NEMESIS SIN
FURY.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:10:00 -
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So a few days ago, some fool logoffski's his Thanatos to keep us from killing it. However he has aggression . . .
Since he has aggression, we were able to probe down his carrier and commence PWNing him.
Half way through however he logs back on, and hits the auto-destruct. He blows himself up and we receive no killmail.
Fussing over cloaks is the least of the exploits that a person can use. You seem somewhat butt hurt, and in your butt hurtness you are being exceedingly short sighted about cloaks in general. But by all means keep whining to CCP, im sure they are listing
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Kazacy
Caldari Cugir SA - Arms FACTORY
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:12:00 -
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Better remove local than cloacks.
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Schayol Sunkeeper
Imperial Crusade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:16:00 -
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OP,
there is no need to fix something that only exists because of your local channel meta gaming
get rid of local, now
-> no afk cloaking -> no instant safespot & cloak as soon as 1 neutral enters system
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Mkiaki
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:28:00 -
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Why is it all i see is
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I can't pew pew the cloaky.
HTFU, if they're cloaked and you can't find them, and it's a carrier, well they are not exactly going to drop out of warp and decloak and surprise buttsex?
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:32:00 -
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Confirming that cloaking works and is in no need of fixing.
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