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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:10:00 -
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Destroyer designs are limited in EVE. Personally I love using them and IMO are under-appreciated.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:15:00 -
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I want a tier 2 gank destroyer for every race. 400dps shortrage oriented so you drop a pack of em on an unsuspecting target and blast him to bits. Hull should be in the 2 mil isk range.
Originally by: CCP Casqade The forum does not represent anywhere close to 90% of the users. In fact it represents a clear minority of them.
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Kuronaga
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba I want a tier 2 gank destroyer for every race. 400dps shortrage oriented so you drop a pack of em on an unsuspecting target and blast him to bits. Hull should be in the 2 mil isk range.
Yes, let's give a 2 mil ship more DPS then most cruisers.
That sounds perfectly balanced and i cannot see any reason this should not be done.
Yarrr
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kuronaga Yes, let's give a 2 mil ship more DPS then most cruisers.
That sounds perfectly balanced and i cannot see any reason this should not be done.
There are plenty of bonus slots to balance it out like the current destroyers that get greater than cruiser range for their frigate guns. A rough draft would be a slow hull with a bit more hp than the tier 1 and a signature equal to a cruiser. Same method for balancing the guns could be used by having a tracking nerf instead of the rof one so they are really only effective vs larger ships than itself that are already webbed and tackled. The gank would come from a damage bonus instead of the range. *Poof* instant 'torpedo' destroyer that dies in droves but can bite like the big dogs for long enough to matter.
Originally by: Kuronaga Yarrr
Damn skippy matey..
Originally by: CCP Casqade The forum does not represent anywhere close to 90% of the users. In fact it represents a clear minority of them.
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:36:00 -
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second tier of logistics first plz - putting the gist back into logistics |
Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:39:00 -
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Sure, but serving what purpose and filling what role? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
destinationunreachable
Hello Kitty Fanclub
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:52:00 -
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As far as I understand, CCP plans to extend T3 ships to frigate sized ships, this would obviously cover destroyer size as well, as it is just a matter of slots between frigates and destroyers (just like cruiser <-> battlecruiser).
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Locke DieDrake
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:21:00 -
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I'd love to see some more destroyers. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. MOAR DESTROYERS.
I don't know what they plan for the T3 Frigs, but I'd love to see a bomber sized destroyer with 2 bomb launchers, or even 5x torp launchers and only 1 bomb launcher. Or possibly a fleet destroyer with the roll of anti tackle. Give it a good tank and fast ROF with low damage.
I could come up with some other ideas for destroyers, but CCP has been fairly resistant to the idea so far, so I won't bother.
I can see possibly why they feel that way. Because having sub cruiser sized ships with high firepower or big tanks is unbalancing. Frankly I'd just be happy with a teir 2 hull for destroyers.
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1mp0st3r
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:22:00 -
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I would like to see another variant from the interdictors and destroyers, not more firepower, but more of a tank, both destroyers and interdictors cant fit a tank at all (bar speed on a dictor). Maybe more small ship missions would aid the devolopement of this, or visa versa.
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CCP Ildoge
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:27:00 -
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Intigo
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider second tier of logistics first plz
Second tier of a T2 ship that already fills a really big role? Hurrr. ___________________
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba I want a tier 2 gank destroyer for every race. 400dps shortrage oriented so you drop a pack of em on an unsuspecting target and blast him to bits. Hull should be in the 2 mil isk range.
Catalyst does 350 dps, use that one then. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:41:00 -
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There are no more roles that need to be filled by a destroyer hull. Besides, they already have one of the most valuable T2 variants of any ship class - interdictors. -----
Originally by: "CCP Whisper" Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Reikenji Saito
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:47:00 -
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I wouldn't mind another T1 type destroyer just to give a bit of variety in choice to fly per race rather than being shoved into one per race ship for one skill book.
Maybe a destroyer variant with rof rather than range?
Or something.
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mirel yirrin
Gallente Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:57:00 -
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Look at more specialized roles. Dedicated sal/arc hull? An anti-fighter variant with specific weapons that have great tracking versus fighters, drones and perhaps missiles? ---------------------------------
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Darthewok
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:05:00 -
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simple. faction dessies..
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:05:00 -
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A fleet command vessel for frigate/destroyer sized gangs.
Though I don't understand why one can't just give t1 destroyers ganglink -slots.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:15:00 -
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Mmm. It's hard to see what you'd do different with them really.
I guess a Tier 2 with an extra slot would be sexy, but what else would differentiate tier 2 from tier 1?
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Roemy Schneider second tier of logistics first plz
Second tier of a T2 ship that already fills a really big role? Hurrr.
well... minnies could do with an armor repper and i see little reason to not bonus some remote sensor booster, remote eccm
but sure, i'd settle for a faction logi cruiser, sisters of eve - with both RR, possibly even remote hull, too ^^ - putting the gist back into logistics |
Konarr
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: Konarr on 08/12/2009 10:26:12 Destroyers are so versatile in their limited variety that you don't really need too many models.
With that said, variety is the spice of life and I would not mind seeing more choices.
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Intigo
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Roemy Schneider second tier of logistics first plz
Second tier of a T2 ship that already fills a really big role? Hurrr.
well... minnies could do with an armor repper and i see little reason to not bonus some remote sensor booster, remote eccm
but sure, i'd settle for a faction logi cruiser, sisters of eve - with both RR, possibly even remote hull, too ^^
First they need to add more remote hull modules! T2 and named would be nice. ___________________
HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it. |
Exitar Stormscion
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:38:00 -
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Just few ideas ...
New Tech t2 or t3 destroyers:
Dedicated to smartbombs anti drone / frigate support in the deferent way. or Dedicated Sensor Linking supporting larger ships with better tracking / optimal bonuses etc. or Dedicated defender / FoF missiles ( fix those as well ). or Destroyers with gang links and sentry drones.
This could be t3 as well you could mix any of those for some fun new game play.
BTW i would never support any kind of logistics with RR because i believe we have more then enought of that and they dont make anyone happy or produce much fun :)
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Pookie McPook
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:44:00 -
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Personally I think there should be more T2 noob ships. -----
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.12.08 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Darthewok simple. faction dessies..
Probably the simplest and best idea I've seen on these boards in a long time. -- CCP's stated intentions and their actual motivations are separated by the gaping abyss of lack of credibility |
Lagruna Zegata
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:07:00 -
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Speaking of faction dessies... I read about the existence of an Elite Thukker Thrasher through the BPO calculator website (through a drop-down menu when "Thrasher" is searched)...is this currently in-game?
~LZ
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:25:00 -
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I always wanted a tier2 destroyer that followed in the same design an bonuses as the tier1 battlecruisers and tier3 battleships.
So a tank bonus plus a turret bonus.
Perhaps them a role bonus to each races ewar drones? Just for something different.
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Proxyyyy
Caldari The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Proxyyyy on 08/12/2009 13:48:30 If ccp introduced a tier 2 destroyer there would be no need to every fly assault ships! Im under the assumption that a tier 2 destroyer would have more damage than a tier 1 version!
I could not imagine a coacer like destroyer with full tackle, that would be hella scary! You know? One that only takes 2 vollies to kill drones and is hella faster than most cruisers. You would get many kill mails of this new amarr destroyer taking out Rupture"s, thorax's and Moa's.
But its an intresting idea i guess? i just hope it doesnt happen = )
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Jonah Sands
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:09:00 -
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Two words:
mini Drake.
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Seralder
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Posted - 2009.12.08 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Seralder on 08/12/2009 15:04:21 350dps catalyst are stupid... you got only 3k HP for close combat. 200dps catalyst with 9K+ HP are bether...
with 3k HP you fit SNIPER Fitting with Rails + Speed.
350dps vs 200dps catalyst fight, the 200dps wins :)
t3 or new t2 variants: BOMBER Destroyer without stealth :D
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Arrador
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Posted - 2009.12.08 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Seralder Edited by: Seralder on 08/12/2009 15:04:21 350dps catalyst are stupid... you got only 3k HP for close combat. 200dps catalyst with 9K+ HP are bether...
with 3k HP you fit SNIPER Fitting with Rails + Speed.
350dps vs 200dps catalyst fight, the 200dps wins :)
t3 or new t2 variants: BOMBER Destroyer without stealth :D
this is what the Rail cormorant tries to do, but fails. not enough PG and 1 lowslot...
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