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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.23 15:27:00 -
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It's always been my biggest beef with EVE, so you'll get my two votes.
If you're that person, please speak now and provide some links to you contributions toward UI improvements or posts or whatever about them as evidence.
Here is my ancient thread with some improvements in case you're unfamiliar with any of the problems. Scant few of which have made it into the game, despite there being no downsides to UI improvements. And all of those improvements were as a result of the devs directly polling players, not my machinations.
If you're in favor of improvements, it's a quick couple of votes and a chance to advocate something that helps every single player, and nerfs no one and nothing. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.23 15:41:00 -
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Inanna Zuni *runs* 
To be honest, the CSM raised many UI issues but usually got this as answer from CCP: "Yeah we want to redo the whole UI, some time" ---
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Caldari Citizen4714
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Posted - 2009.11.23 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Caldari Citizen4714 on 23/11/2009 15:57:02
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Inanna Zuni *runs* 
To be honest, the CSM raised many UI issues but usually got this as answer from CCP: "Yeah we want to redo the whole UI, some time"
Why are you pimping another candidate? - Support DISBANDING the Alliance CCP Renamed at the Alliance's Request |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.23 16:01:00 -
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The UI issues have been raised time and time, first on the forums and then by the CSM when it was introduced, I'm fairly sure CCP are aware of it and we will see improvements soon(tm)

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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.23 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Inanna Zuni *runs* 
To be honest, the CSM raised many UI issues but usually got this as answer from CCP: "Yeah we want to redo the whole UI, some time"
Well, keep it up. If they eventually fix things just so you'll stop bringing it up, then all the better.
I love how they extol the virtues of the sandbox nature of the game, yet via the UI, they only allow you a solitary, immutable, tool with which to interact with the sand.  - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz The UI issues have been raised time and time, first on the forums and then by the CSM when it was introduced, I'm fairly sure CCP are aware of it and we will see improvements soon(tm)
They've been saying that for almost three years. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.23 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen for almost three years.
Just like they said alliances will be allowed to join Factional Warfare in Empyrean Age 1.2, err November 2008, err Q1 2009, err first thing after Apocrypha; and we will have an Interbus station and storyline agent soon, and 90% of the other things they promised to the CSM were added to the backlog and be dealt with Soon(TM).
The reality is that CCP is rushing one expansion out after the other, and before they even patched out all the bugs and missing features with the last one, they're already on the hypemobile for the next expansion. There is no time to fix much of the existing content, because the moment one expansion is out, the deadlines for the next expansion are already rapidly approaching.
I told them this in rather strong and uncensored words half a year ago, but there isn't much the CSM can do about their business decisions until the players realize what is wrong and demand of CCP to change their strategy. ---
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.23 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: TeaDaze on 23/11/2009 20:09:02 This is one of those topics where nobody will disagree, thus as a differentiator between candidates it isn't that useful.
I was at a roundtable during fanfest where CCP Hammer stated his wish to throw the UI away and build it again from scratch. Thus it is on the radar and apparently has been for ages.
The CSM can bring it up again and maybe CCP will finally put some time into the development, we can only hope.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.11.24 00:09:00 -
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I ran on a moddable UI as a big part of my last two campaigns, linking your thread both times to illustrate my point, and the only reason I'm not this time is that it was taken to CCP by CSM3 and rejected(which didn't surprise me, but did make me a very sad panda). There's too many changes that need to happen for it to be useful for me to list them all in mid-campaign, but I do feel strongly about the topic, and will raise UI issues a fair bit if elected.
That said, I'm hardly alone in that. If you want to vote on the UI, I think I'd be a good person to vote for, but there are others as well. We all play Eve, we all know it needs work. Here's hoping CCP finds room in their dev cycle for that overhaul soon.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.24 01:06:00 -
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Just vote for Herschel cause he needs the votes and he's good candidate. I hope he gets in this time. ---
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2009.11.24 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I ran on a moddable UI as a big part of my last two campaigns, linking your thread both times to illustrate my point, and the only reason I'm not this time is that it was taken to CCP by CSM3 and rejected(which didn't surprise me, but did make me a very sad panda).
As some said, it's hard for candidates to disagree that the UI need work. Yet ehre is a point that we actually can disagree on: I would oppose a mod-able UI. Strongly in fact. Not that it will be an issue as CCP has allready rejected the idea. I like the fact that EvE is not like other MMO where it is not the strength of your player skills that determine who wins but the strength of your UI modding powers...
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |

Ashina Sito
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.11.24 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I ran on a moddable UI as a big part of my last two campaigns, linking your thread both times to illustrate my point, and the only reason I'm not this time is that it was taken to CCP by CSM3 and rejected(which didn't surprise me, but did make me a very sad panda).
As some said, it's hard for candidates to disagree that the UI need work. Yet there is a point that we actually can disagree on: I would oppose a mod-able UI. Strongly in fact. Not that it will be an issue as CCP has already rejected the idea. I like the fact that EvE is not like other MMO where it is not the strength of your player skills that determine who wins but the strength of your UI modding powers...
QFT.
I want a new/changeable font ASAP.
All if this is a long time waiting though.
Ashina Sito for CSM
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.11.25 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I ran on a moddable UI as a big part of my last two campaigns, linking your thread both times to illustrate my point, and the only reason I'm not this time is that it was taken to CCP by CSM3 and rejected(which didn't surprise me, but did make me a very sad panda).
As some said, it's hard for candidates to disagree that the UI need work. Yet ehre is a point that we actually can disagree on: I would oppose a mod-able UI. Strongly in fact. Not that it will be an issue as CCP has allready rejected the idea. I like the fact that EvE is not like other MMO where it is not the strength of your player skills that determine who wins but the strength of your UI modding powers...
You're right, we do disagree. I really fail to understand how allowing players to fix the obvious mistakes that CCP won't qualifies as an unfair advantage, especially given that every other game with mods has like 90% of those mods being built for public use.
That said, CCP has already said it won't happen, so this is all a moot point.
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Mike Azariah
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Posted - 2009.11.26 02:01:00 -
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I'd love to see if someone is damn fool enough to say 'no, UI is great'.
Of course we would like to see it better, faster, cleaner. Making that a plank in the campaign platform is so redundant that most of us do not bother. Those that do might be looking for something more than adjustable and moving into mods from outside sources which have both their ups and down. I believe the current eula forbids such things so I do not see CCP making a turnaround on that anytime soon.
mike
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