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Detur Digniori
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:30:00 -
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First of all a simple question: was 0.0 was created for ratting or PVP?
I recall that some time ago one of the devs stated that solo/small gang PVP will be boosted. Unfortunately, this
statement was forgotten. From my point of view solo/small gang (2-3 ppl) have no real options in eve because of
current state of affair in EVE mechanics.
Despite of the fact that space in EVE is vast and enormous PVP in EVE is centered around gates and other celestial
objects.
It is important to understand that PVP is usually avaliable only in hostile environment, where you have to face
enemy intel, blobs, poses...
But what makes it worse is the mechanics of EVE itself.
Gates - lets spoil the fun or the ultimate anti-pvp device.
Gates are the most common place of engagement, but there are no actual means to tie enemy in the combat. Your
enemy always has the option of going back if he wishes to do so: aggrotimers, logoffski...
For isntance:
-in case if you catch a BS (unarmed, no scout support), have no real opportunty to stop him from jumping back. Even
in a ceptor.
-in case if you find yourself in a trap - no hope of survival: aggrotimer prevents you from jumping away.
Local to be or not to be?
Simply put: local sucks ass. Why? Several reasons. Local is an instrument of intel but is used as such. 100%
option to see the enemy before you even scan him - 0 chance of sneaky tactics. What is the most used tool that afk
ratters use? ("WAR on isk sellers"? Srsly guys?) Cmon guys, you know the answer.... (tip: starts with "loc", ends
with "cal")
TLDR: EVE mechanics is against solo/small gang pvp, which sucks ass. Please fix it.
The "big why"? Mkay... There is no 0.0. Should be? My guess - HELL YEAH!!! KILL EM ALL - LET THE GOD SORT EM
OUT!!!
CCP your move?
Small disclaimer. Non PVPers please refrain from writing in this thread. I know you think you won EVE by fitting a
drake that can tank 99999 dps.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2009.11.05 14:53:00 -
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my drake can tank local.
I dont see your problem.
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Thera Romana
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Posted - 2009.11.05 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Thera Romana on 05/11/2009 15:30:11
First, try wormholes for pvp, no local.....and pvp there still usually revolves around one of the wormholes. Wormholes would be a good place for you to go to, and then make suggestions on the pvp side.
Second, local is a double edged sword, not only do they get to see you, but you them. Without local, roaming gangs would have to scan every system just to see if there was anything in it. In big systems directional scan will not show you everything in system, depending on where the gate is, so your going to need probes. The game for 0.0 pvp is cat and mouse.
You jump into system, and pop up on local, the game is can they safe up, before you scan them down. I know many a gang who have gotten very fast at dividing up and attacking systems.
If you can't catch miners/BS ratters in a belt as is, you really need to work on your skills. Exception would be those systems with like 20 belts, they are a pain in the butt, to catch someone, but thats the game.
IF you drop local, your time between pvp encounters will actually become longer, not shorter. Just think how many systems you just zoom through because local is empty, no local you would have to scan each one.
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Detur Digniori
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Posted - 2009.11.06 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Detur Digniori on 06/11/2009 11:39:30
WH bad idea - coz olny pex must bee a meet place. SO my pvp ship cant tank sleepers while they reagro from me, and 2,5k sys to trevel its too much. WH its different part of game, and they not look like Free spcae, only like sleepre plex space.
so u dont understan me, and main idea of topic. Today lockal = intel, its wrong.
Use local to scouting its too casual and not logical.
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Kanatta Jing
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Posted - 2009.11.06 18:55:00 -
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Gates, If you can't kill a Battleship before it can walk 15km back to the gate... You are simply using insufficient amounts of DPS.
Local is very powerful intel gathering tool... But it's kind of required for the ratters, to give them an honest chance. |
Grarr Bexx
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kanatta Jing
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Gates, If you can't kill a Battleship before it can walk 15km back to the gate... You are simply using insufficient amounts of DPS.
Local is very powerful intel gathering tool... But it's kind of required for the ratters, to give them an honest chance.
Scanner, align to, using a HAC, 100km safes on every belt (whoever thought it'd be smart for rats to spawn relative to the player warping into the belt, jesus christ). There's really no excuse for getting caught ratting, ever.
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Detur Digniori
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Posted - 2009.11.07 12:53:00 -
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oh, if u can kill goob bs for a 30 sec its increcable!
but i talk about only keep him takled and jump for him if he reached the gate
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.11.07 15:42:00 -
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Myth.
Small gang and solo PvP has died, all hail the blob... and the remote-repping ****s outside stations.
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Krennel Darius
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2009.11.07 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: I SoStoned
Myth.
Small gang and solo PvP has died, all hail the blob... and the remote-repping ****s outside stations.
Agreed.
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Solstice Systems Development Concourse
Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.11.07 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Krennel Darius
Originally by: I SoStoned
Myth.
Small gang and solo PvP has died, all hail the blob... and the remote-repping ****s outside stations.
Agreed.
Welcome to World of Spacecraft, where you can't pvp without your priest. .I mean scimitar.
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