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ViRUS Pottage
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:43:00 -
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Hai. Just postin.
I look forward to fighting with our brothers, I wish you luck No.Mercy, for the wrath of TFS is about to hit you. On top of that, you're reading my sig.
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Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 30/10/2009 22:51:29
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone I find this whole topic really funny actually.
It is funny because by your own admission the Amarr are weak and unable to hold their own on the battlefield without the Caldari or your Mercs.
So many times I have seen your Caldari masters and the Amarr against the single republic of Minmatar. Two against one. Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL. Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.
And you dont even fight when the numbers are even. You hang your head in shame and walk away even when you have a shot at winning a good battle while taking losses.
That is a sign of cowardice, not bravery. There is no respect earned by us or your own Amarrian FW mates who are complaining against you.
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Bashiri
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 30/10/2009 22:51:29
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone I find this whole topic really funny actually.
It is funny because by your own admission the Amarr are weak and unable to hold their own on the battlefield without the Caldari or your Mercs.
So many times I have seen your Caldari masters and the Amarr against the single republic of Minmatar. Two against one. Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL. Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.
And you dont even fight when the numbers are even. You hang your head in shame and walk away even when you have a shot at winning a good battle while taking losses.
That is a sign of cowardice, not bravery. There is no respect earned by us or your own Amarrian FW mates who are complaining against you.
come on jade post with your main already
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Captain Vaguy
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Hai. Just postin.
I look forward to fighting with our brothers, I wish you luck No.Mercy, for the wrath of TFS is about to hit you.
We look forward to seeing our TFS brothers and sisters back.
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Rosalund Shaw
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.10.30 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bashiri
Originally by: Amun Khonsu Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 30/10/2009 22:51:29
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone I find this whole topic really funny actually.
It is funny because by your own admission the Amarr are weak and unable to hold their own on the battlefield without the Caldari or your Mercs.
So many times I have seen your Caldari masters and the Amarr against the single republic of Minmatar. Two against one. Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL. Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.
And you dont even fight when the numbers are even. You hang your head in shame and walk away even when you have a shot at winning a good battle while taking losses.
That is a sign of cowardice, not bravery. There is no respect earned by us or your own Amarrian FW mates who are complaining against you.
come on jade post with your main already
ITT everyone who ain't 24th or their mercs is an alt of Jade Constantine c/d?
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Vorgx
Minmatar THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:08:00 -
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We are about to enter war dec mode in a few i wish good luck to everybody.
and btw if REPO noobs shows up i will shoot at them aswell
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A Field100
Minmatar Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Vaguy
Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Hai. Just postin.
I look forward to fighting with our brothers, I wish you luck No.Mercy, for the wrath of TFS is about to hit you.
We look forward to seeing our TFS brothers and sisters back.
Yes I also welcome you too the battle.
amarr tactics are a simple flowchart. Fail - ship up Fail again - get guardians Guardian gets ganked - cry to caldari
Bahamut420 > CVA is the diet cola of evil - just one calorie...not eveil enough
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Kazzzi
Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:18:00 -
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Not a day goes past where the Amarr militia doesn't complain about "neutrals" like Star Fraction, Electus Matari and Ushra'Khan "interfering" in the warzone. For some reason they can't grasp the concept that not all enemies of their crusade are sanctioned by concord.
FYI, these "neutrals" were fighting this conflict long before your petty militia was even a gleam in the Sarum b*tches eye.
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 30/10/2009 23:21:56
Originally by: Rosalund Shaw
ITT everyone who ain't 24th or their mercs is an alt of Jade Constantine c/d?
Last time I checked, there's only been one Amarr corp who ever hired mercs which has died over a year ago - now under that light, I actually really, really do believe SF haven't paid stand and repo for their services - they just whined to some old friends for long enough .
Now with stand, I don't bother as we've seen them joining and leaving the Minmatar milita often enough to know how hard they fail.
repo will probably be a totally different matter, as they obviously were handed down to dec FW corps on 'friensdship services' by carebaears like SF who can't defend themselves whilst having 3500+ support and only deccing 100 whilst still being above that since all the lucrative contracts are soaked up by Noir.
Have a nice day
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ViRUS Pottage
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 30/10/2009 23:21:56
Originally by: Rosalund Shaw
ITT everyone who ain't 24th or their mercs is an alt of Jade Constantine c/d?
Last time I checked, there's only been one Amarr corp who ever hired mercs which has died over a year ago - now under that light, I actually really, really do believe SF haven't paid stand and repo for their services - they just whined to some old friends for long enough .
Now with stand, I don't bother as we've seen them joining and leaving the Minmatar milita often enough to know how hard they fail.
repo will probably be a totally different matter, as they obviously were handed down to dec FW corps on 'friensdship services' by carebaears like SF who can't defend themselves whilst having 3500+ support and only deccing 100 whilst still being above that since all the lucrative contracts are soaked up by Noir.
Have a nice day
Another guy who has to post with an alt. Scared to show your face to the might of the stand, I don't blame you, sir. On top of that, you're reading my sig.
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Originally by: CCP Taera May I have your stuff?
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.10.30 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: ViRUS Pottage
Another guy who has to post with an alt. Scared to show your face to the might of the stand, I don't blame you, sir.
/me shivers...
p.s.: I really do...
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Jelosavich
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Posted - 2009.10.31 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 30/10/2009 22:51:29
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone I find this whole topic really funny actually.
It is funny because by your own admission the Amarr are weak and unable to hold their own on the battlefield without the Caldari or your Mercs.
So many times I have seen your Caldari masters and the Amarr against the single republic of Minmatar. Two against one. Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL. Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.
And you dont even fight when the numbers are even. You hang your head in shame and walk away even when you have a shot at winning a good battle while taking losses.
That is a sign of cowardice, not bravery. There is no respect earned by us or your own Amarrian FW mates who are complaining against you.
Wow. The amount of irony in this post is utterly amazing. In particular "Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL.", "Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.", "And you don't even fight when the numbers are even."
Who are these amarrian FW mates who are complaining against us? Please tell me you're not referring "Johnny Traveller" are you?
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.10.31 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris It was us who assisted the Pirates in attacking the POS
These things happen, we keep fighting. It is war after all. Many pirates are angry at us and No.Mercy have No.Honor when it comes to employing those who they think are criminals. Indeed this proves the point about the Hypocrisy of Empires.
Regaurdless, it is a good war. We fight for right and freedom and they fight for the Glory of Garst Tyrell.
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Pyyracy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 02:43:00 -
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Ill be there cap, gotta love fightin the cowards, keeps me in salvage, kinda smells funny though....
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Garst Tyrell
Amarr No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 02:54:00 -
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Alt posts, best posts. "I long for death, not because I seek peace, but because I seek the war eternal" |
IHaveTenFingers
Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Violent Society
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Posted - 2009.10.31 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: IHaveTenFingers on 31/10/2009 03:25:01 To be honest, Violent Society is no better than Star Fraction for interfering with faction warfare.
edit: Also, who is Violent Society anyway?
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Captain Vaguy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 03:42:00 -
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Like Jade, I too can reply to posts from other threads in order to bump my own.- Garst
BUMP - sorry garsty i couldn't resist lol
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Song Tuo
Amarr Demonic Empire Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2009.10.31 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Song Tuo on 31/10/2009 04:08:13 To all parties involved, your isk is just as good as the other sides. I have no fondness for any parties involved, until my CEO tells me a contract has been accepted and you become blue. The life of a merc is to help the client, period. Certainly there are times where you are not able to, and there are times when one time enemies are now clients. All I know, is one week we have war targets, the next week we have different war targets somewhere else. It's not personal for me and my corp mates, it's purely business, and we accept business from any client that wishes to entertain that idea.
Like I said, all parties have no emotional attachment to me, isk is isk. Your isk is just as good as the others in this conflict.
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Liriel Del'Armgo
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Posted - 2009.10.31 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rathion Amarr Militia did not Hire MERC's the third party forces on the field for the Kam POS bash, were volenteers, Also thats pretty funny considering Star Fraction Isn't part of the Minmatar Militia.
Also No Mercy has been war Dec'd by 3 seperate corps at request by Star Fraction, 2 of which are 100 man alliances.
No Mercy now has 4 inc war dec's 3 of which are from alliances outside the Minmatar Militia and one from a Corp outside the militia. And you want to complain, that the Caldari, our militia allies BY GAME DESIGN, and other Third party Forces are stepping in?
Lets see how well your forty man corp deals with 3800 militia targets and over 300 personal corporate war dec targets at the same time.
Yeah, because >3800 people are gonna rush to defend a SF POS in Kamela. I believe that, I really do. Now stop complaining about the original poster complaining when he didn't even write that.
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 31/10/2009 10:10:55 Ever hear of the saying "A picture says a thousand words"
Accepting amarr slaves to spit shine my rokh. __________________ Built like a Rokh |
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.10.31 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Droog 1 on 31/10/2009 10:35:56 I don't know why the Minmatar militia are making 'Ammar can't fight without outside help' comments when they've had SF helping them for ages. Maybe if the Minnies hadn't shot their Gallente allies I wouldn't be spending so much time laughing and would instead be in a combat ship en route to help.
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The Yzzerman
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.10.31 10:59:00 -
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I am looking so forward to this, so dont forget to bring your big ships
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.10.31 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 31/10/2009 11:35:01
Originally by: Droog 1 Edited by: Droog 1 on 31/10/2009 10:35:56 I don't know why the Minmatar militia are making 'Ammar can't fight without outside help' comments when they've had SF helping them for ages. Maybe if the Minnies hadn't shot their Gallente allies I wouldn't be spending so much time laughing and would instead be in a combat ship en route to help.
The difference being that the Amarr will not engage when there are equal numbers. They alway go for overkill. You do not accept losses well and get all bent out of shape over it. It tells people that you dont want a fight. You only want fly around and look cool ganking a ship here a there that has absolutely NO chance against your blobs. I have been in 5 engagements where Amarr and Minmatar have had equal numbers and each time you turn back and dock up. We never turn back from an equal fight and love a good Epic engagement.
Even beyond that, you dont engage smaller forces that still have no chance of winning against you without 5 guardians to back you up. LOL What cowardice in warfare.
Another difference is that we dont PAY Star Fraction or ask them for help when we can handle our battles with equal numbers of Minmatar forces.
You Amarr dont have the stomach for war. You only want to fly in force and annihilate the single ship or small group that happens to stray in your path.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Amun Khonsu Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 30/10/2009 22:51:29
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone I find this whole topic really funny actually.
It is funny because by your own admission the Amarr are weak and unable to hold their own on the battlefield without the Caldari or your Mercs.
So many times I have seen your Caldari masters and the Amarr against the single republic of Minmatar. Two against one. Now you bring in your Mercs, LOL. Pathetic that you have no stomach for a good fight without having others do your fighting for you.
And you dont even fight when the numbers are even. You hang your head in shame and walk away even when you have a shot at winning a good battle while taking losses.
That is a sign of cowardice, not bravery. There is no respect earned by us or your own Amarrian FW mates who are complaining against you.
NEWSFLASH: Working with legitate allies now deemed cowadly and pathetic!!
By your logic the Minmatar Militia are pathetic for working with Star Fraction and vice versa By your logic Star Fraction are pathetic for getting TWO merc corps (113ish in one and 150ish in the other) to war dec a 43 man corporation. That is roughly 6-1 odds without counting Star Fraction and the Minmatar Militia involvement.
Fighting to your advantage is not 'weak'. if you see it as so i truely feel sorry for your lack of training as a capsuleer, and pity anyone under your command. We have held many battlefields without caldari, but we do not turn down their assistence needed or not, we value our allies. I can understand why you are not familier with this since yours kinda suck, but oh well.
We are not here for 'Good fights' just as the minmatar are not here for 'good fights'. They are here to free their people..unless you are suggesting that the Minmatar would rather have fun then free their brothers and sisters?
On the note of guardians. Go and tally the amount of guardians regularly used in battle over the last 6 months. Speaking from personal experiance the Minmatar 70-80% of the time have at least 1 Scimitar, often two. Im sure if you were a regular in FW you would be aware of this.
BOTH sides run when outnumbered BOTH sides use logistics BOTH sides get help
Get over it
---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2009.10.31 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 31/10/2009 13:20:05
Yes, paying Mercs to fight your battles is cowardice.
Running from a fight when the forces are equal is cowardice.
Calling in allies when they are clearly not needed to overwhelm your opponent is lazy, weak and cowardly just as the OP says.
I think the OP is spot on
Your logic is all of these things, very clearly. No wonder some Amarr are starting to show signs of disenchantment with their leadership. At least those Amarr are respectable fighters, not cowards like the rest who wont undock unless it is to gank one or two stragglers with a 50+ 5 guardian fleet.
LOL.
WU TANG!
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.10.31 13:20:00 -
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Ironically, the Amarr use of logistics the Minmatar complain about only emerged due to the Star Fraction trying to single out few pilots from fleets whom they could shoot in absolute safety without having to fear the rest of the fleet being able to help due to them flying in ships not able to tank sentry fire - guardians are a pure countermeasure to SF's coward tactics.
Same goes for the ROE some FCs enforce considering numbers, as they always have to bear an SF fleet jump-bridging into the engagement in mind. Equal numbers are not met with 30 Amarr vs. 30 Minmatar but 40 Amarr vs. 30 Minmatar +10 SF.
It would certainly be preferrable to fight this war without the constant interference from outside forces as it spoils the balance for both sides involved, but as recent developments with SF bringing roughly 300 more outsiders into the conflict in addition to their own 100+ pilots due to their own incapability to successfully interfere with a hanful of corporations they have wardecced show, things are getting worse.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.10.31 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Ironically, the Amarr use of logistics the Minmatar complain about only emerged due to the Star Fraction trying to single out few pilots from fleets whom they could shoot in absolute safety without having to fear the rest of the fleet being able to help due to them flying in ships not able to tank sentry fire - guardians are a pure countermeasure to SF's coward tactics.
Same goes for the ROE some FCs enforce considering numbers, as they always have to bear an SF fleet jump-bridging into the engagement in mind. Equal numbers are not met with 30 Amarr vs. 30 Minmatar but 40 Amarr vs. 30 Minmatar +10 SF.
It would certainly be preferrable to fight this war without the constant interference from outside forces as it spoils the balance for both sides involved, but as recent developments with SF bringing roughly 300 more outsiders into the conflict in addition to their own 100+ pilots due to their own incapability to successfully interfere with a hanful of corporations they have wardecced show, things are getting worse.
A very good point you bring up. It is true the amarr have often had to reconsider engagements due to Star Fraction. There are quiet a few minmatar that have also shown there frustration in local communicaitons about SF 'stealing fights' from them. If no other parties were involved (Ie: just caldari/amarr/minmatar/gallente) you would see much more even battles. Hell every time i am in a fleet, Fcing or just a pilot i never like to stupidly outnumber people myself. I also vouch for Garst doing the same thing. Many a time has he told us not to ship up because we KNOW we wont get a fight, and therefore we get bored having no minmatar to kill. Many a time we have had to ship up or leave because of SF caps ready to jump into our fleet of BC's and i know many a time minmatar are not aware of this constant factor.
SF claim this as a victory yes, and it is somewhat, but you must realise that our tactics have changed to incorporate their threat aswell, not purely the minmatar. And now they have changed to fight SF as a whole, one entity which SF kept telling us we were capable of doing. I guess we should thank them :)
---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
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Rick Wensbane
Gallente Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.10.31 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Rick Wensbane on 31/10/2009 14:04:13
Originally by: Sahriah BloodStone
By your logic the Minmatar Militia are pathetic for working with Star Fraction and vice versa...
The difference being that we don't actively seek the help of Star Fraction. They help us at times because the Tribal Liberation Force and SF happen to be two entities with somewhat similar goals. Yes, our paths cross sometimes while we both do our best to reach said goals, but that is full extent of our cooperation.
We are not SF's lap dogs. If they volunteer (key word right there) to help us kill Amarr, fine, we respect their dedication to the abolitionist cause and won't ignore their offer, but we certainly don't go knock at their door everytime the big bad "blob" of Battleships and Logistics pays us a visit, and it does so often!
Now, for some of the Amarr to actually go hire mercenaries and beg for the help of the State Protectorate, tells me two very important things:
1. The Amarr militia is no more than a band of cowards, tied together by the strings of their own dishonesty. Unable to fight their own battles, even. And... 2. The Gallente need to WAKE UP and REALLY fight for their systems again. Because, let's face it, if the Caldari have the time to fly here and comfortably sit on the lap of the No.Mercy corporation, the FEDEF must not be doing their part!
In any case, exciting times are ahead of us all, I'm certain...
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.31 14:31:00 -
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Locked. Conversation has gone off-topic and OOC.
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