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00sage00
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Posted - 2009.10.26 19:35:00 -
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I am sure you have seen this warning message that pops up before you enter lowsec or nullsec:
It warns people that they are leaving CONCORD protection; i.e. leaving safe space for "unsafe" space. Similar warning messages should be implemented for when you are about to enter space in which you are Kill On Sight (KOS).
Pilots with a low security status should be given a warning message before entering dangerous highsec space. For example, a pirate with a -2.67 security status should receive this warning prior to jumping into a 0.9 security system: "The destination system is 0.9 security status. This is extremely dangerous as CONCORD police will confront you. Do you want to proceed?"
In addition, pilots with low faction standing (e.g. missioners) should also receive a similar warning message. For example, a Caldari missioner with -5.38 Gallente faction standing should receive this warning message before entering Gallente highsec: "The destination system is Gallente-controlled. This is extremely dangerous as faction police will pursue you. Do you want to proceed?"
Such warning messages could prevent countless fatal mistakes when traveling through New Eden; it is a simple solution to a massive problem.
(Original post is here: http://00sage00.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/proposal-kos-space-warning-messages/) --
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Avan Sercedos
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.10.26 19:43:00 -
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This would be nice.
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Bunyip
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.10.27 06:35:00 -
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So you're looking to make having a low security status easier? One of the things that appeals people to a life of piracy is the attraction to living life on the edge.
The warning is there so new players don't make the mistake, but there's no way a new player (not an alt or such) will use this message. I do not support this idea.
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Mynxee
Minmatar Hellcats The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.10.27 12:20:00 -
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As a -10 individual, I occasionally take shortcuts through high sec (assuming I'm in a fast enough ship to avoid the Faction Police) to escape pursuers who might not be so keen to follow me there. I don't want or need any message like that popping up and stopping my progress in the heat of the moment.
In general, I don't support any kind of hand-holding in New Eden for folks with negative sec status. You break the law, you live with the consequences. If you're too dumb to figure out what systems you can or can't go it, you deserve whatever ill fate awaits you.
If such an idea were implemented, it better be a setting in the Options window that was by default set to NOT give me those warnings.
Easiest solution: Just embrace the -10 and avoid confusion altogether.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.10.27 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee As a -10 individual, I occasionally take shortcuts through high sec (assuming I'm in a fast enough ship to avoid the Faction Police) to escape pursuers who might not be so keen to follow me there. I don't want or need any message like that popping up and stopping my progress in the heat of the moment.
In general, I don't support any kind of hand-holding in New Eden for folks with negative sec status. You break the law, you live with the consequences. If you're too dumb to figure out what systems you can or can't go it, you deserve whatever ill fate awaits you.
If such an idea were implemented, it better be a setting in the Options window that was by default set to NOT give me those warnings.
Easiest solution: Just embrace the -10 and avoid confusion altogether.
Pretty much this. It's not like you can become KOS without some indication that you're headed down that path (you blew up the opposing empire's ships, you got CONCORDED, whatever) so this shouldn't be a surprise to the player. --Vel
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.10.27 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee As a -10 individual, I occasionally take shortcuts through high sec (assuming I'm in a fast enough ship to avoid the Faction Police) to escape pursuers who might not be so keen to follow me there. I don't want or need any message like that popping up and stopping my progress in the heat of the moment.
In general, I don't support any kind of hand-holding in New Eden for folks with negative sec status. You break the law, you live with the consequences. If you're too dumb to figure out what systems you can or can't go it, you deserve whatever ill fate awaits you.
If such an idea were implemented, it better be a setting in the Options window that was by default set to NOT give me those warnings.
Easiest solution: Just embrace the -10 and avoid confusion altogether.
OMG i agree with a pirate.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.10.27 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Mynxee As a -10 individual, I occasionally take shortcuts through high sec (assuming I'm in a fast enough ship to avoid the Faction Police) to escape pursuers who might not be so keen to follow me there. I don't want or need any message like that popping up and stopping my progress in the heat of the moment.
In general, I don't support any kind of hand-holding in New Eden for folks with negative sec status. You break the law, you live with the consequences. If you're too dumb to figure out what systems you can or can't go it, you deserve whatever ill fate awaits you.
If such an idea were implemented, it better be a setting in the Options window that was by default set to NOT give me those warnings.
Easiest solution: Just embrace the -10 and avoid confusion altogether.
OMG i agree with a pirate.
Don't let it surprise you - Mynxee is a real pirate, not a griefer in pirate's clothes. I find I agree quite frequently with the former. --Vel
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.10.27 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin Don't let it surprise you - Mynxee is a real pirate, not a griefer in pirate's clothes. I find I agree quite frequently with the former.
I know. but it is still scary when people sell me datacores in their home system. :p
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soldieroffortune 258
Trinity Council Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee As a -10 individual, I occasionally take shortcuts through high sec (assuming I'm in a fast enough ship to avoid the Faction Police) to escape pursuers who might not be so keen to follow me there. I don't want or need any message like that popping up and stopping my progress in the heat of the moment.
In general, I don't support any kind of hand-holding in New Eden for folks with negative sec status. You break the law, you live with the consequences. If you're too dumb to figure out what systems you can or can't go it, you deserve whatever ill fate awaits you.
If such an idea were implemented, it better be a setting in the Options window that was by default set to NOT give me those warnings.
Easiest solution: Just embrace the -10 and avoid confusion altogether.
Bolded is the reason I would agree with this. While I'm not really a full fledged pirate (IE, I'm not all -10 and Flashy everywhere) I do my fair share of naughty stuff, and I did recently lose a ship because of this, jumping into a 0.6 system, not because I was running from anyone, but because I was simply roaming in random directions looking for something, and I jumped into a 0.6 and died a horrible death to the Faction Navies.
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Scerolikk Teromni
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:47:00 -
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Not supported.
I AM in support of a way to more easily see the sec-rating of the system on the other side of the gate, though. The way things are now takes too long to obtain that information. How about just putting the sec status in parentheses behind the gate name? Stargate (Jita) (0.9) or Stargate (Jita: 0.9), or maybe put the sec-status like you put the bounty amount in the Info window in the top-right:
Stargate (Jita) Security: 0.9
If your sec-status is low enough that you can't go into some high-sec systems, then you (should) have enough experience to know which sec-ratings you cannot go into, and CCP should not be holding your hand via popup boxes.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.10.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Scerolikk Teromni Not supported.
I AM in support of a way to more easily see the sec-rating of the system on the other side of the gate, though. The way things are now takes too long to obtain that information. How about just putting the sec status in parentheses behind the gate name? Stargate (Jita) (0.9) or Stargate (Jita: 0.9), or maybe put the sec-status like you put the bounty amount in the Info window in the top-right:
Stargate (Jita) Security: 0.9
If your sec-status is low enough that you can't go into some high-sec systems, then you (should) have enough experience to know which sec-ratings you cannot go into, and CCP should not be holding your hand via popup boxes.
did you already notice those shiny little dots on the left side on your screen next to the system name in the route listing? they give you a nice idea about the sec status. doesnt helps with fscked faction standing. oh well you cant have everything i guess.
though i am not sure what all the crying is about. i even run cruisers through highsec with the navy chasing me.
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Scerolikk Teromni
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Posted - 2009.10.28 19:31:00 -
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Sometimes people just roam around without setting a destination.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.28 20:34:00 -
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The first time faction police started shooting my i had no idea that they would attack you if standing with faction drops below 5. Please make some sort of warning. As we all know, all pop-ups can be turned off. Fix Destroyers |
darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.10.28 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Scerolikk Teromni Sometimes people just roam around without setting a destination.
maybe use the tools god err CCP gave you. especially if you know that jumping in certain systems can get you killed.
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Grunanca
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 20:51:00 -
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Putting a warning in saying CONCORD will come to kill the pirate is a lie. Concord doesnt care about sec status, only faction navies does.
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