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PeHD0M
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Posted - 2009.10.23 17:08:00 -
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1. i like to be free and do what i want
2. i don't need corp services of any kind
3. i hate waiting for someone or something
4. don't use mic
5. sometimes i'm too lazy to do anything (including chat conversations)
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.10.23 18:14:00 -
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Roughly half of the people playing at any given time are thief/pirate/scammer alts. The game does everything to encourage that behavior, and even praises it in the news. The Guiding Hand betrayal is treated like the greatest thing to ever happen by CCP, the aniversary has been celebrated, and the people involved revered. I don't think i've ever seen a player held up as an example of good morals, it doesn't seem like CCP designed the game with a way for those people to be anything but victims, so the honest and noble find themselves alone simply for self preservation.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.10.23 18:19:00 -
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In the corporate world: When you dig a good ditch, you don't get a day off. You get a bigger shovel, while everyone who sucks gets a day off. ----------------
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Tristan Acoma
Caldari Dirah Dominion Dirah Dominion.
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Posted - 2009.10.23 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai In the corporate world: When you dig a good ditch, you don't get a day off. You get a bigger shovel, while everyone who sucks gets a day laid off.
Fixed that for you. |
BurnHard
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai In the corporate world: When you dig a good ditch, you don't get a day off. You get a bigger shovel, while everyone who sucks gets a day off.
Haha, great quote.
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Ladani
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Ladani on 23/10/2009 19:03:52
I find that most players playing this game are not very smart, their IQs are just not very high. When I join corporations I would like that for a change I could learn from others and be lead by others having more clue than me. Somehow this just doesn't happen. I suspect that some high-end corporations do have this, but I am not hardcore enough of an EVE player to join them.
I eventually end up in a leadership position when I join as I typically act as one of the responsible players. Then I find that there are very few people who are interested in helping corp develop. Most want to go out have fun and let other people do the boring **** of running a corp. They take and take and take with their attitude "you're the leader, now what can you offer me and how can you entertain me" and give nothing back. Eventually I thought **** this. You think corp leaders can be selfish an arrogant? Trust me it goes both ways.
Devoting time to running a corp takes away time from any personal projects I would like to pursue in this game. Sometimes I don't want to log on and lead Jonny and Mary on a roam because they just can't entertain themselves without me. I want to log on and do some scan probing for wormholes or whatever. Just do my own thing.
Quite a few immature players out there and players with personality and/or ego problems. Being a female EVE player I get anything from offers of threesomes with their wives to some guys calling me "mommy" in some kind of childish defiance when I dare tell them what to do, while in real life some of them are old enough to be my fathers. Some start playing some kind of sick power games, being dishonest, etc. but I can see right through all of it. Once again I eventually came to the "**** this" conclusion, can get enough of this irl.
No corps could help me make more ISK than I already make on my own. I am self-sufficient and I know that I can always rely on myself rather than waiting for somebody else to come online and help me do something.
I still join and try out different corps, mainly for social interaction. But I have no problems taking off and playing alone as well. I can always find something to do and entertain myself with and don't need other people to entertain me. Sometimes I find corporations that have very little of the negative things I described above, but it's rare.
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Norgana
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:16:00 -
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I fly solo because i am afk very often and i like to do that whenever i want.I would never join some corp and ''work'' for them.I mean when you need to login when ceo says and when you need to fight internet spaceships when there is beautiful day outside it becomes work/job not a game .I prefer to play when i want how i want and log off when i want.So solo all the way.Oh and imagine situation when your friends invites you for beer and you send them sms: ''Sorry guys today we need to take down POS well you now serious business.''
P.S.sorry for uber english skilzzz
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Jacob Mei
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard Do you play solo? I mean have your own corp, just you and your alts, nobody else, occassionally interacting with others out there in space, but generally solo? I'm curious to know why and see if those reasons are the same as mine:
What keeps me away from most corps is really they are too serious, out to stab you in the back and I dont have the time or inclination to deal with corp (clan, fleet, insert generic online group term) drama.
That said, Im not above joining groups of players that I know just to hang out and have fun with what little time they can give with and if I found a corporation that was casual play oriented I may even join it. Problem is in my opinion is that CCP devs seem only interested in "ecouraging" 0.0 gameplay, which is something many either are not interested in or simply dont have the time to do. I would have to say that the main killer of casual play is the wardec system being a pay to grief system and the soon to be change of an NPC corp tax just rubs salt in the wound.
CCP wants to see less people in the npc corps and more in player corps, they need to fix that system first. On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod! |
Jaitee
Tecknotic
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:23:00 -
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(1) but ummmmm i like killing real ppl, (3) and (6)
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2009.10.23 19:24:00 -
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I belong to a corp of very understanding folks. My play schedule is varied and not in the least predictable or plannable due to real life (wife, kids, a billion other things that keep me busy).
I can certainly see why folks like me would choose to play solo...it's because then you can't let anyone down by not showing up or participating in corp operations.
Cooperation is a two way street. In some ways it is inconsiderate to join a corp under such circumstances unless all the players are in the same situation. Forget about doing anything in 0.0 if you have a busy life outside the game...that just ****es everybody involved off.
There are good reasons to play solo that have nothing to do with the game itself. Never being reliable is one such reason.
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OFFT
OFFT FORM LIFE
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Posted - 2009.10.23 20:56:00 -
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I work for myself, no one tells me when to do anything. I work at my own speed.I make my own mistakes.
I dont have to finish a misson , I dont have to mine a roid.
If I can do it alone I will.
Social expectations don't bind me. I can when I chose...engage with others ....at my choice.
I have some people I have known on EVE for 5 years , never had to please them nor do what they wanted. We co exist and chat. We banter and berate each other. Its all good fun :)
One day ....I might change ...maybe :)
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Ukucia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.10.23 21:31:00 -
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In my case, it's a lack of things a corp can offer me.
I'm one of those strange folks that actually likes logistics, production and research. So that's what I'm doing.
Most corps attract players by supplying them with logistics, production and research, so joining a corp would actually reduce the time I spend doing things I find fun....unless they were crazy enough to let a new recruit into corp-thief heaven.
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GeneralMartok
Legion of Alts
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Posted - 2009.10.23 21:43:00 -
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at this point in my life, I have a hard time dedicating myself to others schedules
I have a job that keeps me late, and a wife and baby at home.
being a soloist... I can still use text chat to keep in touch with those that matter (in game) while not being stuck on vent/TS listening with headphones while ignoring those that matter (RL)
If it weren't for RL circumstances, I'd still be in the corp I was most recently in.
I miss it :(
Social interaction is one of the highlights of this game IMO, but that doesn't mean there's no merit's to answering to no one but youself Hab SoSlI' Quch! |
Aeroxe
Minmatar Ghost Blade Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.10.23 21:44:00 -
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There are obviously some nice things that you get from running your own corp. The best for me is the increased ability to stay organized. The wallets, divisions etc. etc. Second I can see the reason for a corp tax but I have NEVER felt like I was getting anything out of that tax. For a tax to work, players need to feel like they are getting something in return. I will give one corp a high five, EVE University. Free frigates and great classes, that's a tax well spent. Unfortunately most corps don't work that way and can't hold up to promises that they will.
Talking about an Alliance of solo corps. Not a bad idea, but e something a little less official? What about starting a chat and moving from there.
1) Find people there will common likes and do a few join ops together if that's the wish. If they are found to be like-able and "trustworthy", stick with those players. 2) Come with the understanding that trust is earned and not given is ok. If your are a industrial pilot and no one will let you haul their ore for a percentage, no big deal. 3) Zero requirements for operations. Zero responsibility. 4) Start your own public chat for your corp and when you feel that you like and "trust" someone, invite them. 5) No recruiting, just a little respect and a lot of fun. 6) Keep notes! Don't like someone, block them. If anyone at anytime backstabs, betrays or anything of the like, ban the person from the chat.
Fact is I would love to be able to pull from the resources of a massive, honest and hard working corp but I like the freedom of running with my own. Take the time, make a chat and find those players that are honest. They's plenty out there, that's why so many of us are in here. I have one other player in my corp that's not an alt and he is a RL friend. Most fun I've had in a corp!
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AeonOfTime
Minmatar Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.10.23 22:53:00 -
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I have always been more of a loner. I started playing EVE about three years ago because of what the game offered. I was quite happy to see that you can survive and thrive on your own - but having contacts ingame is a great thing. Not necessarily through a corporation though.
I opened my own corporation to players a bit over a year ago, with a no duties philosophy in mind to cater to lone wolves like myself. I was quite surprised to see that there are quite a lot of solo players, as this thread shows once more.
I never wanted to join a corporation mainly because of the attached strings. RL goes first, EVE is just a game that I want to be able to hop into, and then it is best if no one relies on me. I think that's why Sytek works - nobody expects anything from anyone. but we're still together. When the occasion presents itself, we do joint operations... The corporation itself has no higher goals, so no strings attached there either.
IMO that's the best way to play an MMO if you know you cannot dedicate yourself fully to it, or do not want to get involved too much.
In the end it's all about the fun, and some people are just not group players :) -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies |
Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.24 00:53:00 -
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Yep, reason being like most people posting in the affirmative.
1)I don't trust you people. 2)I play when I feel like it and dislike activities that demand I play x role at x time. 3)I don't trust you people. 4)No taxes, no noise, and no wardec nonsense cos I'm not a smacktarding ass in Local, just the forums(OHAI! Mai posting alt...let me show u it!) 5)I don't trust you people.
BTW, it really is nothing personal, but...I don't trust you people. Srsly. Rule One of EVE will always remain for me "It's NOT paranoia. They really ARE out to get you."
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AdmiralJohn
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:12:00 -
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I'm solo in every way that really counts. Sure, my corp has a few people in it, but we're all friends and 95% of the time we're doing something else IRL. I'm the only one on in my time zone (doesn't help that we couldn't be worse-off time-zone wise). I like being solo because I can give myself orders, no tedious mic or whatever. I still talk with people, in fact I do a lot of in-game socializing, but not with any "superiors". I've been so spoiled, I doubt I could go back to a "regular" corp now.
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TechDealer
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:18:00 -
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1) corps dun like ppl who works in real life for 7 days a week. 2) only able to play like 1 hr a day or 5 hrs a week.
So still playing solo and doing boring missions
lol i am back to haunt the veterans hehe |
Laciter
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Posted - 2009.10.24 03:43:00 -
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My answer is simple. Real life is more important to me. I don't just mean that I am too busy (I kind of am), but real life social activities are more important to me too. It's not uncommon for me to go on a date, hang out with friends or go to a bar/party/show on short notice. I don't want to feel I am letting any corpmates down by blowing them off, so I would rather not join. When I was in college, I started table-top roleplaying with some friends who got way too serious about it later. What started out as a fun weekly gaming session became more and more like work. I quickly realized that I was missing out on the best years of my life so I separated myself from them. Too many of the corps in EVE remind me of that. When you forget it's a game, it's time to quit.
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Bekka Jae
Gallente Stonewall Interstellar
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Posted - 2009.10.24 04:46:00 -
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Y'know it's interesting. I was in a corp then left to form a manufacturing corp with a friend where I was a Director. I've done the corporate management thing, and now that I'm back in EvE after two years away I'm finding that the fact that I'm currently in a corp where I'm the only member is a nice thing.
I'll probably join a player-run corp again at some point in the near future. I enjoy playing this game with others. But the truth is that right now I'm really enjoying soloing (and I'll like it even better when I get my PC back from the shop and can log in again) and I'll probably keep doing it for at least a couple of weeks.
I like both solo and team play, it's just sometimes hard to find time for both. My EVE Blog: Just A Girl And Her Thorax |
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.10.24 05:53:00 -
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Just commenting on your reasons cause you covered mine pretty much.
Originally by: BurnHard People can be ****s, especially random people. Better to avoid them in the first place (but in that case, why play an MMO?)
Mostly this. Nobody can be trusted in this game, ever, period. And if you trust anyone, you deserve whatever you get.
The reason to keep playing is to avoid the other players. Honestly the most fun I have is doing personal hauling runs through vast stretches of low-sec. Everybody needs a purpose, eh?
Quote: When running with a corp I get the feeling the CEO is mining me for ISK. (Certainly true in some, but not all cases)
The money is always going <nowhere> or <somewhere you don't want it to>. I'll make my own 1-man corp and join the alliance though!
Quote: Love to do my own thing: personality like a cat, mostly a loner, but occassionally come around for some affection
That's a given.
Quote: Unreliable to corps in terms of log-in times. Don't play 23/7, cannot commit to fleet operations, although enjoy them occassionally when time permits.
I log in when I want, for as long as I want, and I sure as hell don't go sit on gates for hours "because you said so".
Quote: Not making progress with corp, because time taken on corp jobs takes away from time needed to earn shiny bling, more efficient to rat/mine/mission alone.
Doesn't really apply to me.
Quote: More challenging to live out there (WH, 0.0) on your own efforts.
This has always been a big draw to soloing for me, not just in EVE. Killing "that big monster" by myself is a lot more satisfying than doing it in a group where it was trivial. Doesn't hurt that I get all the reward to myself, either
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Landrassa
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.10.24 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Conrad Davanev Several reasons. I have been an alliance, 0.0 player before but am now pretty mch purely solo because:
1) time pressure - I play when I want not when a corp needs me as dictated by having a real life. In both Eve and other online games I did the whole - "be on at 2am for an op" thing (anyone remember planetarion ?). Now I cant/dont want to get involved in that.
2) this way I do what I want- mission, rat, mine, pvp. My call.
3) Most corp chat irritate me, badly arrangedcorp ops drive me nuts. Cmbine the two for a typical corp roaming gang and I want to throw up.
You had to bring up Planetarion, didn't you? Spent 4 seasons as CEO of Rock, and as much fun as it was....god i want those years back --------------------------------------------------- Recruitment thread |
AmarrettoDiAmarr
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Posted - 2009.10.24 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard
(1) People can be ****s, especially random people. Better to avoid them in the first place (but in that case, why play an MMO?)
(3) Love to do my own thing: personality like a cat, mostly a loner, but occassionally come around for some affection
#3, #1, and I simply don't trust you people. |
Corporate Thief
Caldari Code Triage
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Posted - 2009.10.24 08:40:00 -
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At this point, even my Alts don't play in the same Corp as I do
For me, it's operational convenience. The fewer Corps I'm in legitimately, the less I have to worry about mixing it up with an illegitimate one (or vise-versa). I know nobody cares about a Thief, but I felt compelled to contribute ---
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Who wants to make me a Sig? Mail me in-game! \O/ |
John Grimm
Amarr Rendili StarDrive Yards
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Posted - 2009.10.24 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: John Grimm on 24/10/2009 09:21:45 Pros: 1. 0% tax. 2. Do what the hell i want. 3. Do it when the hell i want to.
Cons: 1. It's lonely. 2. Though to get a few buddies and go kill something. 3. It's really lonely. (my alts don't have much to say)
Though to find a good corp, most good once don't recruit much or at all. I was in a 0.0 Alliance, but we got kicked around really hard, too many times, and i got tire of it.
Serious Internet Spaceships is serious bisness, but my job is more important.
Edit: Spell check.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.10.24 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion Why play an MMO? Because it gives me a feeling of insignificance in a sea full of other fishes; some bigger, some smaller. It gives me the choice to make a difference... Or not. But the choice is still there. And I love that. I guess it's the feeling of being somebody and nobody at the same time.
Sometimes I feel like playing with others. Sometimes I don't. So yes, personality like a cat.
This summed it up for me. I never understand the retorts about single-player RPGs, being solo in an MMO is a completely different experience and a very fun one - plus we lauded (or used to) those that went out and got solo kills as really understanding their game. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... Environmental Effects
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Melthariumin
Gallente Tactical Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2009.10.24 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Corporate Thief At this point, even my Alts don't play in the same Corp as I do
For me, it's operational convenience. The fewer Corps I'm in legitimately, the less I have to worry about mixing it up with an illegitimate one (or vise-versa). I know nobody cares about a Thief, but I felt compelled to contribute
But dude, your name, isn't it kind of..ah..obvious?
And to contribute to the topic a bit more:
I played a lot of MMO's solo, or mostly solo just because i like a realistic environment. Most game AI can't provide that really. I also like to watch all the politics and drama, as long as i'm not really involved. Last but not least, i have a strong aversion for the whole "stay in line and do as you were told to" thingy. When you got lot's of this stuff IRL, you really want to be a li'l internet spaceship anarchist in your spare time.
For the loner spirit: freedom yeah!!
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Sentious Trill
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
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Posted - 2009.10.24 12:43:00 -
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So far my corp is solo, pretty much for all the reasons posted. If anyone wants to join understand this: There is no tax There is no guiding hand There are on requirements There are no restrictions There are no goals There are no expectations
I will accept only independent minded souls who do not need a mommy or daddy to lead them around. Whiners get booted.
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Gideon Kross
Caldari Kross Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2009.10.24 13:58:00 -
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1.) Did the whole Corp/Alliance thing... Niether turned out well (review my employement history ingame sometime, and you'll get my meaning). Bone Tired of throwing my hard earned assets away on the whim of unreasonable people that don't Think Things Through completely before they act.
2.) I'm a subsistance player nowadays... My RL Pockets aren't as deep as they were 2 years ago. I do whatever strikes me as fun to raise the isk for a Plex off the market, or if I'm lucky a 60 day GTC off the Bazzar.
3.) I'm on at irratic times throughout a given month. I may be on 7 days a week for several hours a day, or I may be out of game for weeks on end... My Time is My Own (see point 1 above).
4.) I don't need to socialize ingame much. But I often do Help those in need of answers to questions they may have. If I want to just chew the fat, there's allways someone to chat with in local... Not so much in Low-Sec/0.0.
- Build a man a Fire, and he'll stay warm for as long as the fuel lasts. Set a man Afire, and he'll stay warm for the rest of his very short life. -
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Capitalist Swineherder
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Posted - 2009.10.24 15:41:00 -
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I don't have enough time to take internet spaceships seriously. If I find a corp that doesn't care if you log in a couple times a week and only have time to undock a couple times a month, I might give it another try.
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