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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
649
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:17:00 -
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We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD).
However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas.
The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha.
Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods.
Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition.
The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.
The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore.
As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize.
Fly safe. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
800
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:21:00 -
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Rule number 5 makes this a stupid competition. My opinion of course. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
649
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:23:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Rule number 5 makes this a stupid competition. My opinion of course.
For the first iteration, I believe it appropriate. It's easier to tell if a Marauder or Strat Cruiser is a PVE ship than, say a drake. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:24:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD). However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas. The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha. Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods. Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition. The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore.
As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize. Fly safe.
Why not Faction BS as well?
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
650
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:24:00 -
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Bossy Lady wrote:
Why not Faction BS as well?
Fair enough, forgot about those. Added. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
nonames nofaces
The Cult of Foamy our Lord and Master
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:26:00 -
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Even better and easier targets are Off grid boosters. Usually incursion boosters are fitted so tightly that there is no room for tank. All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time. |
Boooop
State Protectorate Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:31:00 -
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nonames nofaces wrote:All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time.
I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character.
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Ituhata Saken
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
245
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:31:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Rule number 5 makes this a stupid competition. My opinion of course. For the first iteration, I believe it appropriate. It's easier to tell if a Marauder or Strat Cruiser is a PVE ship than, say a drake.
extender rigs vs purger rigs are usually a dead giveaway, also invuls vs rat specific hardeners & nanos vs spr's. You know what an answer is? It's a terminus -- an end. Answers are fine, but questions are where it's at. Questions bring us closer to understanding, -áthey can start a conversation or spark a revolution. So you might as well start asking... now.-á ~See you on the other side 6/6/12~ |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:31:00 -
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Yet another excellent way to kill carebears for prizes! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
650
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:33:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Rule number 5 makes this a stupid competition. My opinion of course. For the first iteration, I believe it appropriate. It's easier to tell if a Marauder or Strat Cruiser is a PVE ship than, say a drake. extender rigs vs purger rigs are usually a dead giveaway, also invuls vs rat specific hardeners & nanos vs spr's.
I get where you're coming from but I don't want to get into an argument about what exactly is a PVE ship. Easier to restrict the field to faction battleships, marauders, and strategic cruisers.
If this event gets participation and generates lulz, I will be doing it against and we can further refine the rules.
It's the first one man Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Price Check Aisle3
66
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:33:00 -
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I like the idea behind this event and I am considering adding a PLEX into the kitty for second prize. Some considerations to think about:
1. Push back the start and end dates by a few days to let this circulate a bit more. 2. Put a minimum on the number of kills in order to qualify for a prize?
Thoughts?
Boooop wrote:I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character. Ganking Tengus is easy when you have a gang and a spotter on a station undock. |
Culmen
0utLaw. Northern Coalition.
74
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:41:00 -
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But I thought ganking Missionbears was it's own reward....
Or at least the faction/deadspace/officer loot they drop. There is a fine line between a post and a signature. |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:42:00 -
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Boooop wrote:nonames nofaces wrote:All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time. I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character.
On the other hand T3s are routinely fitted with faction and deadspace loot.
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
Torvin Yulus
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:45:00 -
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oh good more greefers.
at least i use a drake so you cant get me. |
Nostradamouse Riraille
Blackreach. SRS.
16
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:47:00 -
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Long overdue |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
137
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:52:00 -
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Isn't that a lot of expense for the chance to win one plex? Sure, you have the chance of some drops, but you're still looking at a lot of upfront cost, unlike ganking a hulk or mackinaw.
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Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:53:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Isn't that a lot of expense for the chance to win one plex? Sure, you have the chance of some drops, but you're still looking at a lot of upfront cost, unlike ganking a hulk or mackinaw.
And people gank hulks for profit |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
138
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:54:00 -
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Greyscale Dash wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Isn't that a lot of expense for the chance to win one plex? Sure, you have the chance of some drops, but you're still looking at a lot of upfront cost, unlike ganking a hulk or mackinaw.
And people gank hulks for profit
100M for 10 hulks is quite a bit of profit i'd say.
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
79
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:55:00 -
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*puts paladin in the hangar and undocks in apoc* Yep, have fun. |
Nyreanya
Astrum Research Pina Colada Armada
113
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:57:00 -
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Price Check Aisle3 wrote:Ganking Tengus is easy when you have a gang and a spotter on a station undock. Sounds like effort, so you can count 99% of gankers out. |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:00:00 -
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And what if Tengu is T2 fitted?
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
64
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:00:00 -
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*puts warp scram on ship and go farm.. |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:02:00 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:*puts warp scram on ship and go farm..
Good. You'll be flying a PVP ship for a change. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
1194
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:06:00 -
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As time goes on, I only grow to like MNG more and more. I may have to start ninja-salvaging again. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
661
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:09:00 -
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Oh yeah, I'm all over this. I think though rule number 6 is dumb. Remove it. You want us to take these people out, it shouldn't matter how their ships are fitted. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
64
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:16:00 -
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Greyscale Dash wrote:Mina Sebiestar wrote:*puts warp scram on ship and go farm.. Good. You'll be flying a PVP ship for a change.
Nevah il put it in cargohold :)
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
651
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:24:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Oh yeah, I'm all over this. I think though rule number 6 is dumb. Remove it. You want us to take these people out, it shouldn't matter how their ships are fitted.
Revised. If they have taken rat damage they CAN carry a warp disruptor/scram. However, rat damage must be on their kill. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:46:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:Oh yeah, I'm all over this. I think though rule number 6 is dumb. Remove it. You want us to take these people out, it shouldn't matter how their ships are fitted. Revised. If they have taken rat damage they CAN carry a warp disruptor/scram. However, rat damage must be on their kill.
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
661
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:50:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ginseng Jita wrote:Oh yeah, I'm all over this. I think though rule number 6 is dumb. Remove it. You want us to take these people out, it shouldn't matter how their ships are fitted. Revised. If they have taken rat damage they CAN carry a warp disruptor/scram. However, rat damage must be on their kill.
That's what I am talking about!
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Flakey Foont
134
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Posted - 2012.06.04 23:59:00 -
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A completely different demographic than Hulk gankers... |
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
136
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:21:00 -
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Just one plex to one person? Don't start competitions if you aren't willing to fork over the isk to be worth people's effort. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
186
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:30:00 -
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So is this for suicide ganks only, or does baiting them count too? Post with your monkey. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
651
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:32:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:So is this for suicide ganks only, or does baiting them count too?
You can kill them however you like mate. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
80
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:32:00 -
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Show me where the carebear touched you.
I swear you mouth frothing "pvpers" are going to run out of targets one of these days. |
Amera Khan
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:33:00 -
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A plex... a single plex is the reward? honestly??? That's embarrassing. Make it interesting and throw up 5B or something. What a snoozefest. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:38:00 -
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So, basically, you're admitting you've only ever had sloppy seconds, huh?
That's just pitiful, man. Maybe it's time to go back to Aeon (since you sound like you've been kicked out of WoW) |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:42:00 -
[37] - Quote
If the dates got pushed back, and a bit of organisation went into it, and a trusted 3rd to hold onto the prizes I'd be willing to throw in a plex or chunk of ISK. I lied :o
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Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:50:00 -
[38] - Quote
Nice move bears - you take an originally good idea and re-suggest it using the most idiotic troll character you have available... |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
1195
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:53:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote:Nice move bears - you take an originally good idea and re-suggest it using the most idiotic troll character you have available... Wait, bears are suggesting an idea to kill bears, using a character who has professed to hate risk-free bears, which will likely lead to bears getting killed?
I don't get it. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
179
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Posted - 2012.06.05 00:55:00 -
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Hulkageddon is over, Goon payouts on specific Exhumers are not. There is a difference.
e: I approve of the idea, but it needs more... something. |
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Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
68
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:00:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:Hulkageddon is over, Goon payouts on specific Exhumers are not. There is a difference. e: I approve of the idea, but it needs more... something.
Marketing. You need to be able to get the word out. The only problem is the more people involved the less you are able to pay out in prizes. Maybe charge an entry fee and pay winnings out of the pot. Just thinking out loud here.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. by Mors Sanctitatis |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1127
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:04:00 -
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Welps, I was hoping to put something like this together.
Tornados vs boost tanked mach...har har har.
Lot of mission ships in .5-.7 space by default. You don't know |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
124
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:05:00 -
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lol
The bulk of your gankers can't stomach fights - why do you think they join up with the other efforts? So you want to pick fights with ships that have weapons, tank and actually shoot other things? ...
Let's see - if I recall correctly, around the time of the first hulkageddon an anti-L4 mission runners geddon was tried. It didn't go over well. Something about 4:1 and more ratios while getting lossmails had participation much lower than shooting ships that don't generate lossmails nor shoot back, especially when you fail the gank - which is not uncommon.
You see the bulk of them can't handle published lossmails and that doesn't show with things like industrials, noctis and the bulk of your mining ships. As such, this will flop -- maybe if you did a "shuttles" geddon. They don't have guns so you should be able to attract more participants.
Good luck with your effort but honestly, I do not see this panning out. It takes too many willing to actually fight to do this stuff and your geddon types don't have that in them -- or they'd be off actually fighting others somewhere. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
79
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:18:00 -
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This should prove interesting. I'm really curious to see if there are going to be a lot of people bothering to probe or not and whether the mission runners are going to dock up or shoot back.
As for not being profitable, lets just say I have seen kills where there was immense profit while using the same cheap ships used during hulkageddon.
Almost makes me want to break out the old Fleet Tempest and run a few missions to see what happens. When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:25:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD). However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas. The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha. Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods. Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition. The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders, Faction Battleships and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder, Faction Battleship, and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore****
As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize. Fly safe. ****If they have taken rat damage, and it is on their killmail, this rule can be ignored. Take that, mission farmers who know how to adapt!
lol thanks you for reminding me why I will shortly be playing MWO and not this crap lol
Degren wrote:Welps, I was hoping to put something like this together.
Tornados vs boost tanked mach...har har har.
Lot of mission ships in .5-.7 space by default.
why arent you guys behind this idea? Too much fight?
Amera Khan wrote:A plex... a single plex is the reward? honestly??? That's embarrassing. Make it interesting and throw up 5B or something. What a snoozefest.
Wait till Goons get behind this one too lol
Hey wait... why arent they |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
186
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:45:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:JamesCLK wrote:Hulkageddon is over, Goon payouts on specific Exhumers are not. There is a difference. e: I approve of the idea, but it needs more... something. Marketing. You need to be able to get the word out. The only problem is the more people involved the less you are able to pay out in prizes. Maybe charge an entry fee and pay winnings out of the pot. Just thinking out loud here. Could do with a more original name too I think. The prizes don't even need to be huge since killing the ships listed here typically yields more loot than the average hulk gank by an order of magnitude or two, but a few more 'achievements' would be nice. Post with your monkey. |
Selinate
947
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:46:00 -
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Would think you should offer a couple of plex for something like this, those tanks are hard as hell to crack.
I support this nonetheless. |
Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:46:00 -
[48] - Quote
Just gank everything in highsec. Gank Jita and try to lag it so bad the servers crash and catch fire. Each type of ship has a point value.
Nothing like a sandbox MMO to for players to be forced into playing the way others want. So much freedom.
So tell me, when the new players have had enough of being bullied and leave Eve and new players stop joining due to what they hear and read about Eve. What will you all do?
For Eve to exist it needs real income. Lack of new players plus raising cost of living an hardware upgrades and repair amongst other things and Eve does start to stumble and go where it does not want to go.
Haters will hate and gankers will gank.
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
84
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:50:00 -
[49] - Quote
^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. |
Gealbhan
Used Shuttle Sales Representative
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 01:57:00 -
[50] - Quote
My Tengu has an EHP of 50k and the lowest resist is only 82%... Pls don't gank me bro |
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
186
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:02:00 -
[51] - Quote
Large Marg wrote:Nothing like a sandbox MMO to for players to be forced into playing the way others want. So much freedom. When I gank someone, I'm not forcing them to do a single thing. I make their ship explode. No more, no less.
Post with your monkey. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:04:00 -
[52] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key.
My atlas will be the best atlas. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key.
screw waiting, Im buying a Founder pack lol
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
403
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:04:00 -
[54] - Quote
JamesCLK wrote:Hulkageddon is over, Goon payouts on specific Exhumers are not. There is a difference. e: I approve of the idea, but it needs more... something.
It lacks flair and panache, who the **** wants to get on board with a dude named: masternerdguy? . |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
85
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:05:00 -
[55] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. My atlas will be the best atlas.
Is that the next game on the "ruin list" ? |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:05:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:JamesCLK wrote:Hulkageddon is over, Goon payouts on specific Exhumers are not. There is a difference. e: I approve of the idea, but it needs more... something. It lacks flair and panache, who the **** wants to get on board with a dude named: masternerdguy?
Ah I understand its takes :effort:
Its ok.
Kiteo Hatto wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. My atlas will be the best atlas. Is that the next game on the "ruin list" ?
They gotta get ppl working for the company first but Im thinking its cause itll be a beta. They get to learn the exploits early on and hope they make it in the game |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. My atlas will be the best atlas. Is that the next game on the "ruin list" ?
Stop being such a bitter girl. Goons are in every game you have ever played. |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
85
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:08:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. My atlas will be the best atlas. Is that the next game on the "ruin list" ? Stop being such a bitter girl. Goons are in every game you have ever played.
Its in beta, hence why Im askin'. Stop being such a bitter bee will yah ? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
381
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
What is it with pubbies and awful contests with even worse prizes? |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
85
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:12:00 -
[60] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:What is it with pubbies and awful contests with even worse prizes?
Got to jump the "cool asswipe" bandwagon before it departs :P. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel now trying to come up with "pixel hardman" ideas. |
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drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:14:00 -
[61] - Quote
so what was the positive effect from hulkageddon?? goon miners selling more minerals?? it seemed pretty fail this year..... you can't even get the goons excited... going to fail.. Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061& |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
183
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:19:00 -
[62] - Quote
Oh man. Why are you wasting your time with this?
The ex-goon (or not ex-goon) lead dev will be at the Vegas convention that is NOT a goon event. (The fact that 2 of the 7 links on the main page for that point to the the goon leader's blog and to the goonswarm main page is purely co-incidental).
At that "convention", I am sure the percentage that L4 missions bounties and payouts will be reduced will be sorted out. The damage the null sec zealots do in-game to high sec is a trifle compared to the damage the null sec zealots within CCP do to high sec. |
Spineker
162
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
I hope 4 asswipes try to gank my Nighthawk. Will be funny to watch the splodingtard fleet from Concord. Yeah try this and I will break it out and let us see how 3 or 4 of you can break it with your 5 million isk ships. Will be good for an Ale night LAWL.
One more Nerf with CCP retards breaking the hi-sec game and they can stick this and Dust up their arse. For good. |
Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
7
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me. |
Spineker
162
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair.
I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining. |
Spineker
162
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me.
What will be funny is when these people who think they can easy kill a Tengu get baited into attacking a full Assault Tengu with their Crusiers and Destroyers on people who actually go out looking for a fight everyday. The LAWL will be high. |
Ocular Shadows
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:27:00 -
[68] - Quote
Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth. |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:30:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ocular Shadows wrote:Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth.
Yeah its called "putting a target on your back" there Except THERE Ill take you on lol Where Im not losing anything of value rofl |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:30:00 -
[70] - Quote
Spineker wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me. What will be funny is when these people who think they can easy kill a Tengu get baited into attacking a full Assault Tengu with their Crusiers and Destroyers on people who actually go out looking for a fight everyday. The LAWL will be high.
It's a ratting Tengu. I PVP in other stuff. |
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Spineker
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:34:00 -
[71] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Spineker wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me. What will be funny is when these people who think they can easy kill a Tengu get baited into attacking a full Assault Tengu with their Crusiers and Destroyers on people who actually go out looking for a fight everyday. The LAWL will be high. It's a ratting Tengu. I PVP in other stuff.
Yeah I understand that just saying their will be people hoping they get ganked
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Valya Niell
Lobster of Babel The Dark Nation
4
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:42:00 -
[72] - Quote
you know, maybe i should just get everyone i know who plays this to let their accounts slip and just troll the threads waiting for eve to give in and go f2p so i can come back and join all the tards still on here.
While we're at it why don't we just start ganking everything in game? until the only people that are left are the ones who wanna go blow each other up? why not just take out missions and roids and just give everyone whatever ships and fittings they want? XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within. |
Valya Niell
Lobster of Babel The Dark Nation
4
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
you guys are all ********. i'd say hey, lets launch a tarddageddon, but then i'd be just like you guys. XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
185
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:47:00 -
[74] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining.
As my previous post states, the lead dev does far more griefing of high sec that these clowns can hope to muster. But, that being said, and as much as I hate these pricks, the economics of what is being proposed is sound.
IF, and it is a big IF, a crew of sociopaths can organize, they can be very effective in shutting down a busy mission hub.
Some math:
1 scanning alt required, maybe 4-5 Tornado's.
Alt scans down a ship. Waits for a couple minutes, until potential target is under full aggro in say, a 0.6 system. 4 Tornado's warp in.
Target has about 6 seconds to GTFO of the mission, and is toast if scarmmed. 4 Tornado's unleash about 40,000 alpha with a large sig radius. A speed tanking Tengu will mitigate most of this, but a near stationary Rattlesnake, or shield tanked Nightmare? Nope. They take full damage.
Now, remember, the target is under full attack from the rats, so may be operating near full rep capacity. The first alpha from the Tornado's won't put him down. The 2nd alpha, which the gankers WILL get off in 0.6 space, will indeed blow up the target.
Now sociopaths whip out of mission in their pods and grab mission ships to acquire aggro while the alt in the scout ship grabs a Noctis and salvages 4 Tornado's plus a faction fitted mission ship.
I would guess that the average mission BS has about 1 billion of mods on it. If half drop, that is 500M.
Suicide Tornados go for about 100M.
If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M. A 95% efficiency.
Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1241
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:50:00 -
[75] - Quote
I lol'ed. Some cheap bears like me use a ****-fit that only ever costs the t2 mods. But yea, if people do fly expensive stuff, atleast ll know which thread to check for kills/lols. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
385
|
Posted - 2012.06.05 02:57:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ocular Shadows wrote:Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth.
Depends on the game. In WoW there are a few "Goon Squads" that are barely known to the greater community save for whacky hijinks. Most of the people that really freak out about us are Eve players and Second Life players. Eve players are well, special in how heavy they freak out, and most people in second life are furries. Need I say more?
In TSW I don't think anyone cares about the Goonimati. The world of Tanks clan has been chugging around forever. The draGoons are a respected part of the M&B community (Line battles are fun!).
So yeah really it's just Eve and Secondlife.
In Eve we're just doing what a thousand other pirate corps are doing daily on a larger scale. In Second Life... well furries lol. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
79
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Posted - 2012.06.05 02:58:00 -
[77] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD). However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas. The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha. Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods. Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition. The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders, Faction Battleships and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder, Faction Battleship, and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore****
As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize. Fly safe. ****If they have taken rat damage, and it is on their killmail, this rule can be ignored. Take that, mission farmers who know how to adapt!
Awesome. The best part is that my PVE Tengu flies with a warp disruptor...
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Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
8
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:02:00 -
[78] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Spineker wrote:Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining. If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M. A 95% efficiency. Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops.
Maybe. I can see slow-moving afk'ers like a domi or rattlesnake falling to this, since they are probably watching youtube in a browser window and not exactly expecting anything that didn't happen the first 2000 times they did this mission. These probably aren't going to drop many faction mods, if any. Many probably won't even have T2 mods, since level 4's can be done without a lot of training if you go with a drone boat.
As you said though, the Tengus which are supposedly the reason for the event, are not going to be sitting still... they will be 100km from the warp in point, going pretty fast, and will likely warp out as soon as you show up on grid and long before you can lock and fire a shot.
Maybe you will get a lazy or scrammed tengu, but most people flying a Tengu are either ready for a fight, or super paranoid and ready to run at the first hint of conflict anyway.
But, let's see where this goes. I'll be happy for the adrenaline rush.
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Scott Webb
Scott Webb Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:03:00 -
[79] - Quote
This threat translates ..... CCP apologist butt boy helps ccp shore up ways of making isk. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
653
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:09:00 -
[80] - Quote
Gianath wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Spineker wrote:Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining. If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M. A 95% efficiency. Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops. Maybe. I can see slow-moving afk'ers like a domi or rattlesnake falling to this, since they are probably watching youtube in a browser window and not exactly expecting anything that didn't happen the first 2000 times they did this mission. These probably aren't going to drop many faction mods, if any. Many probably won't even have T2 mods, since level 4's can be done without a lot of training if you go with a drone boat. As you said though, the Tengus which are supposedly the reason for the event, are not going to be sitting still... they will be 100km from the warp in point, going pretty fast, and will likely warp out as soon as you show up on grid and long before you can lock and fire a shot. Maybe you will get a lazy or scrammed tengu, but most people flying a Tengu are either ready for a fight, or super paranoid and ready to run at the first hint of conflict anyway. But, let's see where this goes. I'll be happy for the adrenaline rush.
I'd just alpha them when they undock. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Spineker
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:11:00 -
[81] - Quote
Gianath wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Spineker wrote:Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining. If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M. A 95% efficiency. Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops. Maybe. I can see slow-moving afk'ers like a domi or rattlesnake falling to this, since they are probably watching youtube in a browser window and not exactly expecting anything that didn't happen the first 2000 times they did this mission. These probably aren't going to drop many faction mods, if any. Many probably won't even have T2 mods, since level 4's can be done without a lot of training if you go with a drone boat. As you said though, the Tengus which are supposedly the reason for the event, are not going to be sitting still... they will be 100km from the warp in point, going pretty fast, and will likely warp out as soon as you show up on grid and long before you can lock and fire a shot. Maybe you will get a lazy or scrammed tengu, but most people flying a Tengu are either ready for a fight, or super paranoid and ready to run at the first hint of conflict anyway. But, let's see where this goes. I'll be happy for the adrenaline rush.
Paranoid right, I run a good many missions in low sec. Never lost a real ship there in years, lost a badger I think was last one with pod but oh well. That was in COSMOS which I didn't doubt would happen sooner or later in low sec. However when running low sec missions which most of the places are dead of players. When players jump in just do a D-scan look for combat probes and if they are deployed run around making the 3 or 4 players waste their time scanning down and poof they get sick of it. I get lawls of wasting their time. Is funny when they start yelling about a "fair fight" and all that. Just Dscan when new players pop into your mission area if you see Combat Probes start moving around they get all red faced.
A damn bit different than non-moving Hulks which any tard could attack. |
Spineker
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:17:00 -
[82] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:Gianath wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Spineker wrote:Gianath wrote:If my Tengu happens to kill all of these wannabe-gankers that stumble into my deadspace assuming I'm a lol-fit carebear, are you going to pay me a plex too?
It's only fair. I have been "ganked" in low sec and they ran away. Of course dual box Tengus is a little more interesting for "gankers" than Hulks mining. If my math is right, 4 Tornado pilots just got a 2 billion (1 billion for ship, 1 billion for mods) killmail for a loss of 100M. A 95% efficiency. Plus, they recouped their losses if 500M from ganked boat drops. Maybe. I can see slow-moving afk'ers like a domi or rattlesnake falling to this, since they are probably watching youtube in a browser window and not exactly expecting anything that didn't happen the first 2000 times they did this mission. These probably aren't going to drop many faction mods, if any. Many probably won't even have T2 mods, since level 4's can be done without a lot of training if you go with a drone boat. As you said though, the Tengus which are supposedly the reason for the event, are not going to be sitting still... they will be 100km from the warp in point, going pretty fast, and will likely warp out as soon as you show up on grid and long before you can lock and fire a shot. Maybe you will get a lazy or scrammed tengu, but most people flying a Tengu are either ready for a fight, or super paranoid and ready to run at the first hint of conflict anyway. But, let's see where this goes. I'll be happy for the adrenaline rush. I'd just alpha them when they undock.
Tengus? Really? You realize in danger areas most tengu pilots have a straight out jump point right? About 400 clicks off the front of the dock. How will you do that?
Do you really think ganking mission ships is something you invented? Really? LAWL |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
654
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Spineker wrote:
Tengus? Really? You realize in danger areas most tengu pilots have a straight out jump point right? About 400 clicks off the front of the dock. How will you do that?
And hulk pilots always fit a tank Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Spineker
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:19:00 -
[84] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:Spineker wrote:
Tengus? Really? You realize in danger areas most tengu pilots have a straight out jump point right? About 400 clicks off the front of the dock. How will you do that?
And hulk pilots always fit a tank
Oh you are so badass! I am impressed dudette! Think I will quit playing! |
Spineker
164
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:22:00 -
[85] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Ocular Shadows wrote:Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth. Depends on the game. In WoW there are a few "Goon Squads" that are barely known to the greater community save for whacky hijinks. Most of the people that really freak out about us are Eve players and Second Life players. Eve players are well, special in how heavy they freak out, and most people in second life are furries. Need I say more? In TSW I don't think anyone cares about the Goonimati. The world of Tanks clan has been chugging around forever. The draGoons are a respected part of the M&B community (Line battles are fun!). So yeah really it's just Eve and Secondlife. In Eve we're just doing what a thousand other pirate corps are doing daily on a larger scale. In Second Life... well furries lol.
They actually play SecondLife? LOL of course they do hahahaha they need it.
I play M&B but never heard of any Goons there 51st 83rd et al. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
355
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:35:00 -
[86] - Quote
Nuts, I was hoping few people would notice the ISK fountain that is blapping PVE Tengus. |
nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
25
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
so that mean there going to have to scan a ship first i see.
"put scams and all my t2 bs ,faction bs and t3"
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Sycotic Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:42:00 -
[88] - Quote
Ganking a Tengu in high sec is'nt as easy as it sounds or else people would be doing it already. Try ganking a passive fit Tengu and see how easy it is.
Personally I think all the action we are going to see from this event is right here on the forums and not in game. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:45:00 -
[89] - Quote
Spineker wrote: They actually play SecondLife? LOL of course they do hahahaha they need it.
I play M&B but never heard of any Goons there 51st 83rd et al.
W-hat and voted 5 in SL, both are regularly banned en masse due to griefing.
M&B is saDragoons, we've been doing a lot of EU and NA line battles. We're getting kind of known for heroic and suicidal charges. |
Spineker
165
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:47:00 -
[90] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Spineker wrote: They actually play SecondLife? LOL of course they do hahahaha they need it.
I play M&B but never heard of any Goons there 51st 83rd et al.
W-hat and voted 5 in SL, both are regularly banned en masse due to griefing. M&B is saDragoons, we've been doing a lot of EU and NA line battles. We're getting kind of known for heroic and suicidal charges.
Ahh ok M&B rocks I will not comment on Secondlife just the name is funny. But yeah Suicidal bayonet charges are awesome!
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nat longshot
New Eden Inc.
25
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Posted - 2012.06.05 03:52:00 -
[91] - Quote
Bossy Lady wrote:masternerdguy wrote:We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD). However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas. The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha. Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods. Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition. The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore.
As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize. Fly safe. Why not Faction BS as well?
my god another loser that cant handle the war dec sytsem |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
654
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:04:00 -
[92] - Quote
By the way, the competition is officially open.
Happy ganking. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Large Marg
University of Caille Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:04:00 -
[93] - Quote
You'd think this Masterbaterguy would not have to bribe players to do his bidding cause he and his girl scouts can do it themselves.
Go figure. The gears of a ganker grind exceedingly dumb. |
Ketov Aktar
Grey Wolff
6
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:08:00 -
[94] - Quote
Spineker wrote:I hope 4 asswipes try to gank my Nighthawk. Will be funny to watch the splodingtard fleet from Concord. Yeah try this and I will break it out and let us see how 3 or 4 of you can break it with your 5 million isk ships. Will be good for an Ale night LAWL.
One more Nerf with CCP retards breaking the hi-sec game and they can stick this and Dust up their arse. For good. +1 I'd love to see that too |
Ketov Aktar
Grey Wolff
6
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:22:00 -
[95] - Quote
While you are there in my Level 4 Assault, Do you mind killing a few of those jamming battleships for me while I wait for CONCORD to gank you? |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:40:00 -
[96] - Quote
Boooop wrote:nonames nofaces wrote:All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time. I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character. I think thats the point
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Spineker
165
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Posted - 2012.06.05 04:42:00 -
[97] - Quote
I didn't get ganked tonight. Whew! I thought I was dead for sures! |
Bossy Lady
Aliastra Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.06.05 05:43:00 -
[98] - Quote
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Ocular Shadows wrote:Fun Fact: Join a new MMO/Online game and say that X server is going to be the official Goon server on the forums. Watch all the hate and whining pour forth. Yeah its called "putting a target on your back" there Except THERE Ill take you on lol Where Im not losing anything of value rofl
What "of value" are you losing in EVE?
Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M. |
Rustling
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:31:00 -
[99] - Quote
Bossy Lady wrote: What "of value" are you losing in EVE?
Honor, dignity. |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
383
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Posted - 2012.06.05 06:32:00 -
[100] - Quote
Rustling wrote:Honor, dignity.
She said "of value" |
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
185
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:27:00 -
[101] - Quote
Flakey Foont wrote:A completely different demographic than Hulk gankers...
Yeah, shoot at targets that can shoot back?
"Real" PvPers no likey! Gallente is what America believes itself to be.
Caldari is how America is in reality. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
332
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:37:00 -
[102] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:Rustling wrote:Honor, dignity. She said "of value"
She was right.
I believe that our game selves reflect a little of the person behind it.
Tal
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
634
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:42:00 -
[103] - Quote
Good idea, however gankers now a days aren't looking for a challenge. Hence why Hulkaggedon is so popular because its easier then shooting rats. Never understood how people can find it fun. |
Kerist Lafayette
The Lafayette Family
25
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Posted - 2012.06.05 07:54:00 -
[104] - Quote
I swear I read "Tonguegeddon" in the forum window. My brain got dislocated trying to think of a way to compete. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
54
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:02:00 -
[105] - Quote
I don't get it - why limit to missioning ships only?
It could be logical to include all ships in hi-sec assuming they are varios forms of carebears. Especially those easy to spot targets without any tank like ganking geddons and BCs. Tornados, nagas, oracles have just paper tank a-la hulk or even less. Surely they are inexpensive - but they are easy to find and there are many of these at every gate in 0.5-0.7 systems + in Jita.
It's a miracle nobody offered this yet. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
333
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Posted - 2012.06.05 08:29:00 -
[106] - Quote
I can see allot of hi sec mission runners re-fitting for gank and hoping : )
Oh like someone else said if you come in and see jamming NPC rats, would you mind awfully old chap, thiers a good sausage.
Tal
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
75
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:09:00 -
[107] - Quote
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Good idea, however gankers now a days aren't looking for a challenge. Hence why Hulkaggedon is so popular because its easier then shooting rats. Never understood how people can find it fun.
But shooting rats is fun. |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:24:00 -
[108] - Quote
Ageddon is over, from this point on its just Goonbuttsniffageddon until next year. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
70
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:32:00 -
[109] - Quote
why not mittanigeddon or ccpgeddon, this concept is wearing thin.
Just stick to how you play EVE best and enjoy it. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
138
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:35:00 -
[110] - Quote
This is a good ideia, EvE needs a cleansing of Tengus. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
790
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:42:00 -
[111] - Quote
Problem with alphaing Tengus is that any smart pilot will orbit something with his AB running. 1400s won't track that well, so your best bet is to find them on a gate. Problem there is that they align fast and you'd have to have scanned them on their way to your trap.
Hulks are flown by bears who think they are completely safe with 6k EHP in a full yield fit. Many (if not most) Tengu pilots know that they're flying ISK pinatas and will take steps to mitigate the risk involved. eh |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
789
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Posted - 2012.06.05 09:52:00 -
[112] - Quote
ctx2007 wrote:why not mittanigeddon or ccpgeddon, this concept is wearing thin.
Just stick to how you play EVE best and enjoy it. The point of these geddons is that this is already how people play EVE, and people are creating competitions out of it.
Emergent Gameplay FTW. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2350
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:04:00 -
[113] - Quote
Contest to gank high level mission runners in high security.
DMC
P.S. Guess you never heard the ole saying - "Best to let sleeping dogs lie."
Basically that means you shouldn't disturb or provoke something as the end result is usually bad for those who do.
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Cushi
Planet Buffy
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:15:00 -
[114] - Quote
Sycotic Deninard wrote:Ganking a Tengu in high sec is'nt as easy as it sounds or else people would be doing it already. Try ganking a passive fit Tengu and see how easy it is. Personally I think all the action we are going to see from this event is right here on the forums and not in game.
It happens regularly. Standard mission fit just takes 6 destroyers. Passive fits are the minority. |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
76
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:16:00 -
[115] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Contest to gank high level mission runners in high security. DMC P.S. Guess you never heard the ole saying - "Best to let sleeping dogs lie." Basically that means you shouldn't disturb or provoke something as the end result is usually bad for those who do.
Yeah best not to awaken the SLEEPING DRAGON of fierce dangerous badass mission runners. If anyone tries to mess with that dangerous bunch of rootin' tootin' fightin' bitin' die-hards they'll KNOW they've stepped into a WORLD OF HURT, boy.
And by that I mean a TWENTY PERCENT hike in the price of faction ammo.
Yeah, I though that'd make you just walk on by, boy. Good thinking there you just keep RIGHT ON WALKING. Say hi to your momma and your sister from me when you get home, ya hear? |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
333
|
Posted - 2012.06.05 10:20:00 -
[116] - Quote
Pheusia wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Contest to gank high level mission runners in high security. DMC P.S. Guess you never heard the ole saying - "Best to let sleeping dogs lie." Basically that means you shouldn't disturb or provoke something as the end result is usually bad for those who do. Yeah best not to awaken the SLEEPING DRAGON of fierce dangerous badass mission runners. If anyone tries to mess with that dangerous bunch of rootin' tootin' fightin' bitin' die-hards they'll KNOW they've stepped into a WORLD OF HURT, boy. And by that I mean a TWENTY PERCENT hike in the price of faction ammo. Yeah, I though that'd make you just walk on by, boy. Good thinking there you just keep RIGHT ON WALKING. Say hi to your momma and your sister from me when you get home, ya hear?
But most mission runners are enjoying the hike in faction ammo as they probably produce it : )
Thats right keep on walking
Tal
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
789
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:26:00 -
[117] - Quote
Pheusia wrote: And by that I mean a TWENTY PERCENT hike in the price of faction ammo.
Sure am glad I use pirate faction ammo, when I use faction ammo Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
HaxTis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
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Posted - 2012.06.05 10:50:00 -
[118] - Quote
Put the prize pool with a 3rd party and I'll start fitting my ships yesterday. |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
168
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
Looks like it's time for me to park The Great Space Spud for a bit. IGÇÖve been wondering how long the mission running loot pi+¦atas would go unnoticed.
+1 for more emergent content.
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Proteus Maximus
Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:51:00 -
[120] - Quote
Boooop wrote:nonames nofaces wrote:All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time. I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character.
I stereotype gank pilots as lazy and only want easy targets using a throw away alt.."Fixed" Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2353
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Posted - 2012.06.05 11:59:00 -
[121] - Quote
Pheusia wrote:
Yeah best not to awaken the SLEEPING DRAGON of fierce dangerous badass mission runners. If anyone tries to mess with that dangerous bunch of rootin' tootin' fightin' bitin' die-hards they'll KNOW they've stepped into a WORLD OF HURT, boy.
And by that I mean a TWENTY PERCENT hike in the price of faction ammo.
Yeah, I though that'd make you just walk on by, boy. Good thinking there you just keep RIGHT ON WALKING. Say hi to your momma and your sister from me when you get home, ya hear?
Aside from the amount of sarcasm and trol..........er, taunting contained in your reply, the context of your statement failed.
If it was intended to induce fear, well...................seems that also failed as well.
But hey, nice try.
I'm sure your contest may snag a couple of ships. Hell, even a blind squirrel gets lucky and finds a nut every once in a while.
DMC |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
29
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:03:00 -
[122] - Quote
whats this talk of super rich mission runners, wasnt it the incursion runners who generated 1000000% of the isk in the game hence the ungodly chest thumping and screaming and carrying on followed by the songs of praise, worships and rejoice when incursions got "fixed"
make up your mind dammit |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:24:00 -
[123] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote:whats this talk of super rich mission runners, wasnt it the incursion runners who generated 1000000% of the isk in the game hence the ungodly chest thumping and screaming and carrying on followed by the songs of praise, worships and rejoice when incursions got "fixed"
make up your mind dammit
It's far more funny to launch 10 or 15 bombs at some fleet, bring some cloacky hauler with extra bombs, shrapnel and Matar bomber is a must Bubble station undocks and gates kill lazy people, use cloacky Sabres and gank haulers, bomb JB's, spot cyno arrays and gak capitals/whatever jumps through.
This is funny
brb |
Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
102
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Posted - 2012.06.05 12:26:00 -
[124] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote:whats this talk of super rich mission runners, wasnt it the incursion runners who generated 1000000% of the isk in the game hence the ungodly chest thumping and screaming and carrying on followed by the songs of praise, worships and rejoice when incursions got "fixed"
make up your mind dammit
Shhh or they'll cry about nerfing our already "high profit", "effortless" and "risk free" mission running.
/sarcasm |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
339
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Posted - 2012.06.05 15:58:00 -
[125] - Quote
bump
Tal |
Generals4
801
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:00:00 -
[126] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:Aramatheia wrote:whats this talk of super rich mission runners, wasnt it the incursion runners who generated 1000000% of the isk in the game hence the ungodly chest thumping and screaming and carrying on followed by the songs of praise, worships and rejoice when incursions got "fixed"
make up your mind dammit Shhh or they'll cry about nerfing our already "high profit", "effortless" and "risk free" mission running. /sarcasm
I thought they already cried about that before incursions came along ? -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Roisin Saoirse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:05:00 -
[127] - Quote
VaMei wrote:+1 for more emergent content. 'Emergent'? None of this is new, ganking mission runners has been going on for as long as mission runners have been fitting expensive modules to their ships and active tanking.
EVE might not be dying, but imagination seems to be. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:09:00 -
[128] - Quote
Generals4 wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:Aramatheia wrote:whats this talk of super rich mission runners, wasnt it the incursion runners who generated 1000000% of the isk in the game hence the ungodly chest thumping and screaming and carrying on followed by the songs of praise, worships and rejoice when incursions got "fixed"
make up your mind dammit Shhh or they'll cry about nerfing our already "high profit", "effortless" and "risk free" mission running. /sarcasm I thought they already cried about that before incursions came along ?
They also cried because null sec income was very poor compared to high sec. Well I still see hundreds of end ores in belts and no one mining those when isk/h would be for sure a lot better than gank a few hulks, and thousands of wrecks split all over null systems and no one/very few looting.
Then seems another argument is that high sec comrades like instant gratification, but the more I think about the more I find these arguments funny to read.
Yep nerf high sec ! Please make it impossible to be there, low and null sec are already ruined enough now lets ruin high sec once and for all brb |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:13:00 -
[129] - Quote
OP is such a moron. Why is this guy still posting his stupidity??? |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:31:00 -
[130] - Quote
Doc Severide wrote:OP is such a moron. Why is this guy still posting his stupidity??? He wants to give away a PLEX? |
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Iosue
0verload. IMPERIAL LEGI0N
87
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:33:00 -
[131] - Quote
so just fit a warp scram and all is well |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:43:00 -
[132] - Quote
Iosue wrote:so just fit a warp scram and all is well Definitely for traveling! |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:46:00 -
[133] - Quote
Iosue wrote:so just fit a warp scram and all is well
Actually a NOS and ECM drones would be a better pick to counter some mission gank, but it's just my opinion.
Notice the difference in between "GANK" and actually pick the wreck loot and try to get aggression from the missioner. If the first can't get away he's doing it wrong, the second just deserves to die anyway.
Also: neutral reps 4TW brb |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:50:00 -
[134] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Iosue wrote:so just fit a warp scram and all is well Actually a NOS and ECM drones would be a better pick to counter some mission gank, but it's just my opinion. Notice the difference in between "GANK" and actually pick the wreck loot and try to get aggression from the missioner. If the first can't get away he's doing it wrong, the second just deserves to die anyway. Also: neutral reps 4TW The reference is to one of the rules that says if the ship has a warp scrambler or web, then it's not a legitimate target, unless they've taken damage from a rat. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:53:00 -
[135] - Quote
Wilma Lawson wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Iosue wrote:so just fit a warp scram and all is well Actually a NOS and ECM drones would be a better pick to counter some mission gank, but it's just my opinion. Notice the difference in between "GANK" and actually pick the wreck loot and try to get aggression from the missioner. If the first can't get away he's doing it wrong, the second just deserves to die anyway. Also: neutral reps 4TW The reference is to rules #6 that says if the ship has a warp scrambler or warp disrupter, then it's not a legitimate target, unless the ship has taken damage from a rat.
Rules are meant to be exploited, this is Eve. brb |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
169
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:00:00 -
[136] - Quote
Roisin Saoirse wrote:VaMei wrote:+1 for more emergent content. 'Emergent'? None of this is new, ganking mission runners has been going on for as long as mission runners have been fitting expensive modules to their ships and active tanking. EVE might not be dying, but imagination seems to be.
Ganking mission runners isn't new. Incentivising ganking isn't new. Incentiving the ganking of mission runners is new. Masternerdguy may not deserve even a +1 for originalty, but he is organizing a community event against something that's been bitched and whined about for years, and that'll do. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
659
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:12:00 -
[137] - Quote
VaMei wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:VaMei wrote:+1 for more emergent content. 'Emergent'? None of this is new, ganking mission runners has been going on for as long as mission runners have been fitting expensive modules to their ships and active tanking. EVE might not be dying, but imagination seems to be. Ganking mission runners isn't new. Incentivising ganking isn't new. Incentiving the ganking of mission runners is new. Masternerdguy may not deserve even a +1 for originalty, but he is organizing a community event against something that's been bitched and whined about for years, and that'll do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VgvM7av1o1Q#t=20s Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:38:00 -
[138] - Quote
Time to start ninja salvaging and flipping again.
Where did I put that pvp cane..... |
Spineker
189
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:44:00 -
[139] - Quote
VaMei wrote:Looks like it's time for me to park The Great Space Spud for a bit. IGÇÖve been wondering how long the mission running loot pi+¦atas would go unnoticed.
+1 for more emergent content.
What you think this is new or even exciting?
What is wrong with you people? This has been going on since the first mission ship slipped out of Jita during Beta.
"Emergent Content" what tard came up with that BS. |
Spineker
191
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:45:00 -
[140] - Quote
VaMei wrote:Roisin Saoirse wrote:VaMei wrote:+1 for more emergent content. 'Emergent'? None of this is new, ganking mission runners has been going on for as long as mission runners have been fitting expensive modules to their ships and active tanking. EVE might not be dying, but imagination seems to be. Ganking mission runners isn't new. Incentivising ganking isn't new. Incentiving the ganking of mission runners is new. Masternerdguy may not deserve even a +1 for originalty, but he is organizing a community event against something that's been bitched and whined about for years, and that'll do.
What are you his sidekick or lover? |
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Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
156
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:11:00 -
[141] - Quote
I doth protest the rules of this competition. There are many highsec carebears in Tengus that come and run sites in my lowsec system. Since I am a persona non-grata in highsec proper, I cannot participate in said contest. This makes pirate baby Jesus cry. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
659
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:13:00 -
[142] - Quote
Daemon Ceed wrote:I doth protest the rules of this competition. There are many highsec carebears in Tengus that come and run sites in my lowsec system. Since I am a persona non-grata in highsec proper, I cannot participate in said contest. This makes pirate baby Jesus cry.
I'm a -10 too mate, I feel your pain. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:36:00 -
[143] - Quote
Spineker wrote:VaMei wrote:Looks like it's time for me to park The Great Space Spud for a bit. IGÇÖve been wondering how long the mission running loot pi+¦atas would go unnoticed.
+1 for more emergent content.
What you think this is new or even exciting? What is wrong with you people? This has been going on since the first mission ship slipped out of Jita during Beta. "Emergent Content" what tard came up with that BS. The Mittani.
Edit: Here's the link. |
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:37:00 -
[144] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:Daemon Ceed wrote:I doth protest the rules of this competition. There are many highsec carebears in Tengus that come and run sites in my lowsec system. Since I am a persona non-grata in highsec proper, I cannot participate in said contest. This makes pirate baby Jesus cry. I'm a -10 too mate, I feel your pain. Gankers whining about ganking? |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.06.05 18:50:00 -
[145] - Quote
Wilma Lawson wrote:Gankers whining about ganking?
No, just more people with bought toons spending more time on the Forums than actually playing the game. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
252
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:26:00 -
[146] - Quote
Has anyone actually posted a kill under this event yet? Didn't see one. CCP: Fix Inferno war decs.-áAllies should not be free and unlimited. -á-á |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
92
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Posted - 2012.06.05 19:29:00 -
[147] - Quote
I buffer fit my Tengu and it has a bigger tank, a smaller signature, more punch and more speed than my Drake or my Raven by a long shot, close to my Rohk, its only T2 fit and I'm pretty sure the alpha fleet that can take it out before a concord response is going to cost more than it does. Good luck with this. |
Stan Smith
Remenent British Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:07:00 -
[148] - Quote
Dufuq did i just read? |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
184
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Posted - 2012.06.05 20:10:00 -
[149] - Quote
Is anyone actually participating in this? |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
659
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:05:00 -
[150] - Quote
Zyress wrote:I buffer fit my Tengu and it has a bigger tank, a smaller signature, more punch and more speed than my Drake or my Raven by a long shot, close to my Rohk, its only T2 fit and I'm pretty sure the alpha fleet that can take it out before a concord response is going to cost more than it does. Good luck with this.
Good for you. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.06.05 21:19:00 -
[151] - Quote
Tengu pilots:
We have you surrounded by two slashers, a navitus, and an extremely annoying internet troll in a exequror. Surrender now or we sick the internet troll on you. All I hear is goons this and goons that, it's like you people are the villiagers from goons village. |
Doc Jackville
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:56:00 -
[152] - Quote
Ok, so this crap is really going on..C'mon now. I've been missioning for ever and never had someone warp in until today. ****, scared the pissed out of me. I had worked hard missioning since i can only play hour a day. Six months of grinding, down the pisser. To the OP, thanks again for giving the griefers some other reason to make us wanna quit the game. |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
165
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Posted - 2012.06.06 00:02:00 -
[153] - Quote
Doc Jackville wrote:Ok, so this crap is really going on..C'mon now. I've been missioning for ever and never had someone warp in until today. ****, scared the pissed out of me. I had worked hard missioning since i can only play hour a day. Six months of grinding, down the pisser. To the OP, thanks again for giving the griefers some other reason to make us wanna quit the game.
if you've been grinding missions for 6 months, you should be able to replace your ship about 20 times over ... not to say your other point is untrue ...
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
184
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Posted - 2012.06.06 01:11:00 -
[154] - Quote
Rengerel en Distel wrote:Doc Jackville wrote:Ok, so this crap is really going on..C'mon now. I've been missioning for ever and never had someone warp in until today. ****, scared the pissed out of me. I had worked hard missioning since i can only play hour a day. Six months of grinding, down the pisser. To the OP, thanks again for giving the griefers some other reason to make us wanna quit the game. if you've been grinding missions for 6 months, you should be able to replace your ship about 20 times over ... not to say your other point is untrue ... I've been doing this over a year and can't afford to replace any of my mission ships 20 times even though they are all T2 fit, but then I actually use the isk for things other than just sitting in my wallet. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2012.06.06 01:14:00 -
[155] - Quote
Linna Excel wrote:Tengu pilots:
We have you surrounded by two slashers, a navitus, and an extremely annoying internet troll in a exequror. Surrender now or we sick the internet troll on you.
I see what you did here.
Fear the Execuror.
brb |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:18:00 -
[156] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:By the way, the competition is officially open.
Happy ganking.
Look, the wanna be Mittani |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:25:00 -
[157] - Quote
How many dead Tengus tonight any score count? masterbater can't even go to highsec to try out his elite ganking skills since he is too busy doing what? He claims he destroys Hulks but how is that if he on the other side of his face says he is -10. I mission in Low Sec and never seen him. |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:27:00 -
[158] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Is anyone actually participating in this?
No because it takes skills and NO FAKE FREE ALTS to kill Tengu. If Tengus were so easy to kill it would be on going already. |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:29:00 -
[159] - Quote
Rengerel en Distel wrote:Doc Jackville wrote:Ok, so this crap is really going on..C'mon now. I've been missioning for ever and never had someone warp in until today. ****, scared the pissed out of me. I had worked hard missioning since i can only play hour a day. Six months of grinding, down the pisser. To the OP, thanks again for giving the griefers some other reason to make us wanna quit the game. if you've been grinding missions for 6 months, you should be able to replace your ship about 20 times over ... not to say your other point is untrue ...
BS is BS we all know what it is. Smell funny and is mushy like the OP |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1168
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:45:00 -
[160] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Is anyone actually participating in this? No because it takes skills and NO FAKE FREE ALTS to kill Tengu. If Tengus were so easy to kill it would be on going already. It is going on already, it just isn't commonplace. Only suicide gank I've ever done was a tengu, killed it with a few maelstroms back before the insurance nerf.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:50:00 -
[161] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Spineker wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Is anyone actually participating in this? No because it takes skills and NO FAKE FREE ALTS to kill Tengu. If Tengus were so easy to kill it would be on going already. It is going on already, it just isn't commonplace. Only suicide gank I've ever done was a tengu, killed it with a few maelstroms back before the insurance nerf. But was it because it was a Tengu or just for the mods on it? I just bought a tengu too : ( |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1147
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:55:00 -
[162] - Quote
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Degren wrote:Welps, I was hoping to put something like this together.
Tornados vs boost tanked mach...har har har.
Lot of mission ships in .5-.7 space by default. why arent you guys behind this idea? Too much fight?
Pretty sure I just said I was. A 22 day old member of a large alliance doesn't have much pull.
PS: There is no fighting in a gank. There is death and laughter. Don't make the mistake of thinking a mission ship has a chance.
PPS: Don't have so much feel
Richard Desturned wrote:Problem with alphaing Tengus is that any smart pilot will orbit something with his AB running. 1400s won't track that well, so your best bet is to find them on a gate. Problem there is that they align fast and you'd have to have scanned them on their way to your trap.
Hulks are flown by bears who think they are completely safe with 6k EHP in a full yield fit. Many (if not most) Tengu pilots know that they're flying ISK pinatas and will take steps to mitigate the risk involved.
Many are also bots, and many are also bought characters/isk. All those failfit tengu links are encouraging You don't know |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:56:00 -
[163] - Quote
Many people will avoid a tengu over say a faction fit Mara or Faction Battleship.
The reason is simple. Tengu is fast hard to hit and if not scrammed, webbed it is almost impossible to keep it from warping. With D-scan a tengu can mission or rat in any system. Only takes a little common sense. I use to fly Mara which was like turning a whale to warp but even then I was always aligned to a planet or station or gate. Insta warp.
Your Tengu will be safe Tyberious just use its speed run out to 100 50 or 110 kicks from the warp in zone and kill the mission objectives. I can kill at 110+km with a tengu no need to hover around the warp in becon. Just hit afterburn run out to your max kill range. Even if they come in with stealth you will see them come in they can't use gates stealthed.
EHP is subjective, I run two small shield boosters that cost less than 100 mil when I bought them. They can absorb a lot of damage. Also get an alt and dual box 2 tengus is far more dangerous than 1.
Not to mention it is hard to jam even in a baseline 35 sensor strength which is 9 more than Mach and 25 more than Mara. Can't track it, can't jam it, can't reach it. 3 rules to live by. |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:59:00 -
[164] - Quote
Degren wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Degren wrote:Welps, I was hoping to put something like this together.
Tornados vs boost tanked mach...har har har.
Lot of mission ships in .5-.7 space by default. why arent you guys behind this idea? Too much fight? Pretty sure I just said I was. A 22 day old member of a large alliance doesn't have much pull. PS: There is no fighting in a gank. There is death and laughter. Don't make the mistake of thinking a mission ship has a chance. PPS: Don't have so much feel
Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. |
Sid Hudgens
Totally not an NPC Corp
114
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:15:00 -
[165] - Quote
EVE Roy Mustang wrote: Wait till Goons get behind this one too lol
Hey wait... why arent they
Well, I would imagine you'd have to evaluate how this will increase demand for tech to figure that out. It's used for marauder hulls but I don't see that many of those flying around really. (Maybe that's just due to the areas I frequent.) I'm not sure if tech is used in building a tengu, it certainly isn't used for faction BS hulls. So then you're left with T2 modules and I don't think that will compare much with the amount of tech that goes into something like ... I dunno ... a hulk.
But hey what am I talking about - goons sponsoring hulkageddon is all about "emergent gameplay" and has nothing to do with isk. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1338
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:31:00 -
[166] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it.
"The right hands" don't run missions.
Tornado alpha best alpha. You don't know |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:33:00 -
[167] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha.
Money where your mouth is... Surely you could win the contest were what you were saying true |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
292
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:34:00 -
[168] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts) People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis. Sometimes in iteron V's
Wow, what a macho internet database operator you must be. "The right hands" are not playing Eve at all. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1338
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:35:00 -
[169] - Quote
EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Money where your mouth is... Surely you could win the contest were what you were saying true
No one wants to lose 8 or so tornados for a single plex. You don't know |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:43:00 -
[170] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts)
Tornado hitting a tengu at 100+ with large guns? ALPHA STRIKE ALPHA SCRATCH. What happens when I get under your guns genius? You die in 2 or 4 volleys in your paper tiger... Oh wait there is going to be 10 of you vs. 1 WOW epeeness from null sec or drop a cap on me?
The Right hands don't run missions? I have done everything in this game from Null Sec to "Pirate" to small gang to fleet action. What makes you think you know anything? Because you won battles with more people than the enemy? WOW I mean WOW. |
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Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:45:00 -
[171] - Quote
Degren wrote:EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Money where your mouth is... Surely you could win the contest were what you were saying true No one wants to lose 8 or so tornados per kill for a single plex. Ban Bindy wrote:Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts) People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis. Sometimes in iteron V's Wow, what a macho internet database operator you must be. "The right hands" are not playing Eve at all. I'm sorry, was I epeen stroking? I didn't think I was, since I didn't mention anything about what I do. Awkward! I think you're mad, bro!
Yes you were stroking. Your tornado is ****.
Please come attack me with your tornado please. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1340
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:46:00 -
[172] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Tornado hitting a tengu at 100+ with large guns? ALPHA STRIKE ALPHA SCRATCH. What happens when I get under your guns genius? You die in 2 or 5 volleys.
The Right hands don't run missions? I have done everything in this game from Null Sec to "Pirate" to small gang to fleet action. What makes you think you know anything? Because you won battles with more people than the enemy? WOW I mean WOW.
Hi! Hello! Mission runners don't buffer fit. Often, they fit mission specific hardeners.
8 or so tornados will kill most mission running tengus, navy issue ravens, machs, etc, etc.
Grats to you for not being completely ********? Maybe? Something?
Hush now.
Spineker wrote:Yes you were stroking. Your tornado is ****.
Please come attack me with your tornado please.
Oh I get it. You think I mean solo. Clearly, sweetcheeks, I mean group ganks. Even a weak buffer tank on a mission ship would stop a solo ganker. You don't know |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:47:00 -
[173] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Tornado hitting a tengu at 100+ with large guns? ALPHA STRIKE ALPHA SCRATCH. What happens when I get under your guns genius? You die in 2 or 5 volleys.
The Right hands don't run missions? I have done everything in this game from Null Sec to "Pirate" to small gang to fleet action. What makes you think you know anything? Because you won battles with more people than the enemy? WOW I mean WOW. Hi! Hello! Mission runners don't buffer fit. Often, they fit mission specific hardeners. 8 or so tornados will kill most mission running tengus, navy issue ravens, machs, etc, etc. Grats to you for not being completely ********? Maybe? Something? Hush now.
I don't use specifics, I use the same damn setup for every mission. All of my resist are 69+. What do you know you are too good to run missions and work for a living. You think it is so damned easy to dodge every tard in low sec and use D-Scan constantly and work and understand rats and idiots who would gank you in a moment? You don't know what you are talking about. Please bring your tornado and attack me. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1340
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:47:00 -
[174] - Quote
Spineker wrote:I don't use specifics, I use the same damn setup for every mission. All of my resist are 69+. What do you know you are too good to run missions and work for a living.
It's a video game.
Holy ****. I love your posts. You don't know |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:49:00 -
[175] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:I don't use specifics, I use the same damn setup for every mission. All of my resist are 69+. What do you know you are too good to run missions and work for a living. Work for a living. It's a video game. Holy ****. I love your posts.
Oh but you think your special for ganking people. Using 10 people to kill a hauler or a hulk. So badass dude so badass I need your picture to hang on the wall. Such internet warriors you people are. I would not kill a Hulk or a hauler I found in low sec because there is no thrill in it.
I bet you a billion isk I kill your tornado before you can align to run away. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1340
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:51:00 -
[176] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Oh but you think your special for ganking people. Using 10 people to kill a hauler or a hulk. So badass dude so badass I need your picture to hang on the wall. Such internet warriors you people are. I would not kill a Hulk or a hauler I found in low sec because there is not thrill in it.
Man, so many tears, and I didn't even gank anybody.
Nor have I.
You're just so mad, it's adorable. You don't know |
Spineker
193
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:52:00 -
[177] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Oh but you think your special for ganking people. Using 10 people to kill a hauler or a hulk. So badass dude so badass I need your picture to hang on the wall. Such internet warriors you people are. I would not kill a Hulk or a hauler I found in low sec because there is not thrill in it. Man, so many tears, and I didn't even gank anybody. Nor have I. You're just so mad, it's adorable.
Tears? I laugh at you poor jokers you are pathetic. |
Desi Valeri
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:53:00 -
[178] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Oh but you think your special for ganking people. Using 10 people to kill a hauler or a hulk. So badass dude so badass I need your picture to hang on the wall. Such internet warriors you people are. I would not kill a Hulk or a hauler I found in low sec because there is not thrill in it. Man, so many tears, and I didn't even gank anybody. Nor have I. You're just so mad, it's adorable.
Flawless Victory |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1340
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Posted - 2012.06.06 04:55:00 -
[179] - Quote
Spineker wrote:Tears? I laugh at you poor jokers you are pathetic.
Emotions running high in Spineker's corner. You don't know |
Boomhaur
84
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Posted - 2012.06.06 08:58:00 -
[180] - Quote
Little heads up to all would be suicide ganking Tengu haters. Try Caldari space, they have a bounus to kinetic missiles, the rats there to my knowledge is weak to kinetic damage. And solar systems with multiple lv4 security agents will probably be popular for lazy mission runners as they can decline missions once every 4h and not lose standing so in the mean time they can use the other agent in the same system for simplicity.
Here I have even done a bit of leg work for you of what is possibly some of the more popular areas. Mainly the ones with the most lv4 security agents in Caldari space.
Region: The Citadel, Solar System: Paara 0.8 space, 2x lv4 agents Region: The Citadel. Solar System: Motsu 0.9 space, 2x lv4 agents Region: The Citadel. Solar System: Kusomonmon 0.8 space, 2x lv4 agents Region: The Citadel. Solar System: Eitu 0.5 space, 2x lv4 agents
Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2012.06.06 10:57:00 -
[181] - Quote
Degren wrote:Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is cheaper and easier, are defenceless anyway while mining in belts
People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis.
First fixed some stuff
yadayada old rabble high sec far too rich yadayada blahblah Tengus blahblah carebears blahblah
brb |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:05:00 -
[182] - Quote
Boomhaur wrote:Little heads up to all would be suicide ganking Tengu haters. Try Caldari space, they have a bounus to kinetic missiles, the rats there to my knowledge is weak to kinetic damage.
If you still find dudes missioning in Tengus with specific rat hardeners when subs at 5 lowest resist therm/kin is already -/+ 75%, those are idiots. If you still find dudes that don't have at least 1K extra dmg type missiles in their cargo, those are idiots.
Everyone knows an idiot mission ganker will always fit hardeners accordingly to the ship he's baiting: Tengu will for sure not be EM.
Then a single large ancillary shield booster is nothing hard to fit in to Tengus If those haven't fitted one yet, those are idiots
brb |
Amera Khan
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:51:00 -
[183] - Quote
Holy Hannah! ! A whole plex???? Wow. Are u sure??? Has that much isk even ever been seen in game???? Jumping jehosaphate!! I cant believe it, a whole fking plex!!!! Sweet baby Jesus!!! |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
344
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Posted - 2012.06.06 12:11:00 -
[184] - Quote
Amera Khan wrote:Holy Hannah! ! A whole plex???? Wow. Are u sure??? Has that much isk even ever been seen in game???? Jumping jehosaphate!! I cant believe it, a whole fking plex!!!! Sweet baby Jesus!!!
I think you made her moist .......
Tal
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Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
117
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Posted - 2012.06.06 13:02:00 -
[185] - Quote
Talon SilverHawk wrote:Amera Khan wrote:Holy Hannah! ! A whole plex???? Wow. Are u sure??? Has that much isk even ever been seen in game???? Jumping jehosaphate!! I cant believe it, a whole fking plex!!!! Sweet baby Jesus!!! I think you made her moist ....... Tal
Here Tal +1 |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
303
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Posted - 2012.06.06 13:14:00 -
[186] - Quote
Greyscale Dash wrote:Yet another excellent way to kill carebears for prizes!
Yeah a whole free plex , awsome |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.06.06 13:58:00 -
[187] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote: I'd just alpha them when they undock.
Oh look, 2 maelstorms (___ whatever else):
- Ctrl+Space-->dock, or - Warp to undocking bm, or finally - Hardeners on, full speed at 45 degrees |
Eyezpiddydafooh
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:09:00 -
[188] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Tears? I laugh at you poor jokers you are pathetic. Emotions running high in Spineker's corner.
This guy is going places in the world! |
Blanchet
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.06 14:32:00 -
[189] - Quote
lol...OP if you put two more Plexes into that, i might think about selfdestructing my good old mission Domi. Come on..make the offer more tempting! |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Valiant Star Operations
1
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:31:00 -
[190] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:*puts paladin in the hangar and undocks in apoc* Yep, have fun.
This pretty much... Doesn't threaten ANYONE, the cost in the OP is exaggarated (or just overfit ships, which can never have such low EHP), and who will gank a lot of ships that have WAY more tank than an exhumer for a measly plex? Just buying the damn thing would be way cheaper... Nice try though ;D "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
349
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Posted - 2012.06.06 17:34:00 -
[191] - Quote
Kiteo Hatto wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Amera Khan wrote:Holy Hannah! ! A whole plex???? Wow. Are u sure??? Has that much isk even ever been seen in game???? Jumping jehosaphate!! I cant believe it, a whole fking plex!!!! Sweet baby Jesus!!! I think you made her moist ....... Tal Here Tal +1
I've just been a little sick in my mouth.
Tal
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:33:00 -
[192] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts) People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis. Sometimes in iteron V's If I recall the Megathron killed was buffer fit and using large rails. Not to mention the pilot made the poor choice of engaging in his mission ship. Though without help, the same setup would likely be much less effective against a ship with decent maneuverability or the capacity to hit close targets. The tengu has both and even mission fit the encounter would probably have turned out differently provided the pilot was willing to engage. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2012.06.06 19:55:00 -
[193] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts) People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis. Sometimes in iteron V's If I recall the Megathron killed was buffer fit and using large rails. Not to mention the pilot made the poor choice of engaging in his mission ship. Though without help, the same setup would likely be much less effective against a ship with decent maneuverability or the capacity to hit close targets. The tengu has both and even mission fit the encounter would probably have turned out differently provided the pilot was willing to engage.
Well, even thou rails are the worst option for Vindis T2 short range rails ammo (+25% tracking) and Vindi web bonus (provided he wasn't that lazy and fitted one) he could have got it. Addition of lazy pilot with bad ship for "x" job and a lazier fit always leads to lol snowflake KM's brb |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:08:00 -
[194] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Boring mission ship has no chance? Seriously what crack are you smoking? Especially Tengu.
yeah they die all ships die but a Tengu in the right hands you are silly. If they were that easy to kill everyone would do it. "The right hands" don't run missions. Tornado alpha best alpha. No one does it cause killing hulks is funnier and are in set locations (mine belts) People willing to kill mission ships (scan them down, track them, bait them) do so on a regular basis. Sometimes in iteron V's If I recall the Megathron killed was buffer fit and using large rails. Not to mention the pilot made the poor choice of engaging in his mission ship. Though without help, the same setup would likely be much less effective against a ship with decent maneuverability or the capacity to hit close targets. The tengu has both and even mission fit the encounter would probably have turned out differently provided the pilot was willing to engage. Well, even thou rails are the worst option for Vindis T2 short range rails ammo (+25% tracking) and Vindi web bonus (provided he wasn't that lazy and fitted one) he could have got it. Addition of lazy pilot with bad ship for "x" job and a lazier fit always leads to lol snowflake KM's KM is linked here. This was a T1 megathron, not a Vindi, so no web bonus and it had T1 guns, so no T2 ammo. Granted the fit was poor for other reasons. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1359
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Posted - 2012.06.06 20:11:00 -
[195] - Quote
The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. You don't know |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:39:00 -
[196] - Quote
Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. I wasn't aware fitting for a purpose was poor fitting practice. And anything not setup like a brick is defenseless against a fleet of tornados, and in many cases fitting like that won't get the job done and just results in even more tonados from determined gankers. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2012.06.06 21:41:00 -
[197] - Quote
Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex.
WTF do you care how other people fit their ships? |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1178
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Posted - 2012.06.06 22:12:00 -
[198] - Quote
Just out of interest has anyone tried suicide-neuting mission runners?
I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:02:00 -
[199] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote: I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission?
And that ship would be... Bhaalgorn? Also, it's hard to kill something that can warp off. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1178
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:10:00 -
[200] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission?
And that ship would be... Bhaalgorn? Also, it's hard to kill something that can warp off. You can fit neuts on anything, it's a PvE T3, you can cap it out in a few cycles even with medium neuts.
And it can't warp off until concord comes and destroys you.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
791
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Posted - 2012.06.06 23:14:00 -
[201] - Quote
If you can find a better way to document this ( a private killboard that isn't 'feeded' or something) and I'll put up a decent chunk of change.
A list of fixes for the new inventory
Dual Pane idea clicky |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:01:00 -
[202] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Tornado hitting a tengu at 100+ with large guns? ALPHA STRIKE ALPHA SCRATCH. What happens when I get under your guns genius? You die in 2 or 5 volleys.
The Right hands don't run missions? I have done everything in this game from Null Sec to "Pirate" to small gang to fleet action. What makes you think you know anything? Because you won battles with more people than the enemy? WOW I mean WOW. Hi! Hello! Mission runners don't buffer fit. Often, they fit mission specific hardeners. 8 or so tornados will kill most mission running tengus, navy issue ravens, machs, etc, etc. Grats to you for not being completely ********? Maybe? Something? Hush now. Spineker wrote:Yes you were stroking. Your tornado is ****.
Please come attack me with your tornado please. Oh I get it. You think I mean solo. Clearly, sweetcheeks, I mean group ganks. Even a weak buffer tank on a mission ship would stop a solo ganker.
I like all the talking like youll do it lol
Very Napoleon Dynamite I could totally do this but I dont WANT to....
Im too rich to lose 8 tornadoes to gank a Tengu |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:40:00 -
[203] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote: You can fit neuts on anything, it's a PvE T3, you can cap it out in a few cycles even with medium neuts.
Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1178
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Posted - 2012.06.07 00:51:00 -
[204] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can fit neuts on anything, it's a PvE T3, you can cap it out in a few cycles even with medium neuts.
Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it Neuting capabilities are what? And why would you suicide gank in a pirate faction BS, that's just silly.
My point is that even my rather shiny wh tengu only has ~2,700 capacitor capacity. And that's with the cap reservoir subsystem and a capacitor battery, since it runs at ~50% cap stable you could easily cap it out with medium neuts. A regular tengu would be capped out even faster.
Makes me think two gank canes with neuts would actually be better for killing t3s than tornados. Might be best with one cane and a tornado, or two canes and a tornado. I suppose it depends on the NPC DPS in the mission.
But anyway, my observation was merely that you could probably gank a T3 more effectively with neuts than alpha or pure DPS. I'll have to test it on sisi later with my alts.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:23:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can fit neuts on anything, it's a PvE T3, you can cap it out in a few cycles even with medium neuts.
Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it Neuting capabilities are what? And why would you suicide gank in a pirate faction BS, that's just silly. My point is that even my rather shiny wh tengu only has ~2,700 capacitor capacity. And that's with the cap reservoir subsystem and a capacitor battery, since it runs at ~50% cap stable you could easily cap it out with medium neuts. A regular tengu would be capped out even faster. Makes me think two gank canes with neuts would actually be better for killing t3s than tornados. Might be best with one cane and a tornado, or two canes and a tornado. I suppose it depends on the NPC DPS in the mission. But anyway, my observation was merely that you could probably gank a T3 more effectively with neuts than alpha or pure DPS. I'll have to test it on sisi later with my alts.
you will have at max 20seconds to kill the victim before concord shows up. You are not going to neut him\her out and kill them in that time, it will have to be an alpha strike. But curious to know your testing out come
Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061& |
Price Check Aisle3
81
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:36:00 -
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EVE Roy Mustang wrote:Im too rich to lose 8 tornadoes to gank a Tengu You don't need Tornados to gank a Tengu. Scope out your target, find one that's active-tanked, get a few friends in Thrashers and blow the **** out of that smug Tengu when it undocks. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1361
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:18:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. I wasn't aware fitting for a purpose was poor fitting practice. And anything not setup like a brick is defenseless against a fleet of tornados, and in many cases fitting like that won't get the job done and just results in even more tonados from determined gankers.
Katja Faith wrote:Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. WTF do you care how other people fit their ships?
Hi. Welcome to the conversation. As you can see above, people were doubting the ability of gankers to alpha/gank mission ships.
Additionally, people were suggesting no one would go through the effort to gank mission ships.
The iteron V video handily showed both claims (gank, not alpha) are false. All the talk about having a fleet of tornados was to counter the latter point.
Return to your **** posting, mouth breathers. You don't know |
0ccupy 4-4
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:27:00 -
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Buttmad Dredditor
Just because some people already gank mission ships doesn't mean people are going to come together to do it so they can possibly win a plex. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1361
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:29:00 -
[209] - Quote
0ccupy 4-4 wrote: Buttmad Dredditor Just because some people already gank mission ships doesn't mean people are going to come together to do it so they can possibly win a plex.
Hence the "too bad it's just a plex" You don't know |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:37:00 -
[210] - Quote
Degren wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. I wasn't aware fitting for a purpose was poor fitting practice. And anything not setup like a brick is defenseless against a fleet of tornados, and in many cases fitting like that won't get the job done and just results in even more tonados from determined gankers. Katja Faith wrote:Degren wrote:The point was mission runners **** fit. Even a non-shitfit mission runner is defenseless to a fleet of tornados, and it would actually be an isk efficient kill.
Too bad the reward is only a plex. WTF do you care how other people fit their ships? Hi. Welcome to the conversation. As you can see above, people were doubting the ability of gankers to alpha/gank mission ships. Additionally, people were suggesting no one would go through the effort to gank mission ships. The iteron V video handily showed both claims (gank, not alpha) are false. All the talk about having a fleet of tornados was to counter the latter point. Return to your **** posting, mouth breathers. I'll admit that I, apparently erroneously, assumed you were referring to suicide ganking but the conversation seemed to revolve around tornados which excel as suicide ganking ships due to their alpha.
The link you posted in response was not a suicide gank so I addressed that directly for the merits it contained, but then you went back to tornados, which led me to believe you were back on the subject of "suicide" ganking vs combat in general, though how that Itty V vs. Megathron fight counts as a gank I'm not sure as the mega chose (foolishly) to engage IIRC.
This doesn't, however negate the point that fitting accordingly to the task you are trying to accomplish is usually a good decision. I still don't see how doing so qualifies as a poor decision. Mission runners typically have to deal with sustained incoming damage more than a sudden alpha so concentrating on EHP in particular doesn't make sense. How is this fundamentally wrong?
Maybe you have an explanation that relies on something other than insults? |
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Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1361
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:41:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:I'll admit that I, apparently erroneously, assumed you were referring to suicide ganking but the conversation seemed to revolve around tornados which excel as suicide ganking ships due to their alpha.
The link you posted in response was not a suicide gank so I addressed that directly for the merits it contained, but then you went back to tornados, which led me to believe you were back on the subject of "suicide" ganking vs combat in general, though how that Itty V vs. Megathron fight counts as a gank I'm not sure as the mega chose (foolishly) to engage IIRC.
This doesn't, however negate the point that fitting accordingly to the task you are trying to accomplish is usually a good decision. I still don't see how doing so qualifies as a poor decision. Mission runners typically have to deal with sustained incoming damage more than a sudden alpha so concentrating on EHP in particular doesn't make sense. How is this fundamentally wrong?
Maybe you have an explanation that relies on something other than insults?
They don't have to deal with sustained damage from 8-12 tornados. And yes, I am referring to suicide ganking.
Please stop, you are hurting my brain. You don't know |
Slow P Oke
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.06.07 03:56:00 -
[212] - Quote
EVE NEWS: DEGREN SAYS "Yes, you can totally gank mission ships." CAREBEARS COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO TRY TO SAY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
209
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Posted - 2012.06.07 04:36:00 -
[213] - Quote
oh goodiy!! can we do noob ship-a-geddon next...... and shuttle-a-geddon.. and I got it! Jovian-a-geddon. and then ....
this is just transparent.. sorry. It's dumb. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Dead On Arrival Alliance
378
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Posted - 2012.06.07 04:55:00 -
[214] - Quote
Drowning in tears. So many delicious tears and hard men in ratmobiles. Om nom nom. The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
137
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Posted - 2012.06.07 05:36:00 -
[215] - Quote
Slow P Oke wrote:EVE NEWS: DEGREN SAYS "Yes, you can totally gank mission ships." CAREBEARS COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO TRY TO SAY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
I doubt anyone with a brain would say it can't be done - "in theory". Just that your "geddon" types will find it too expensive and takes both way too much time and cooperation with other "like minded" types to pull it off.
"in theory" a highsec alliance could form up enough people in secret to go to SOV space and knock down an entire region's SOV status in 1 day.
Plenty out here would cheer either type of effort - with respect to their interests. Just don't expect too many to jump on the bandwagon and go running out to try either of the above.
it's nice to dream and theory craft at times about such things so let's not trample your dreams.
Go for it! |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Dead On Arrival Alliance
380
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Posted - 2012.06.07 06:10:00 -
[216] - Quote
Well, Mocram just exposed himself as an iggernant hisec carebear. One does not simply go to sov space and flip sov in one day. The RF timers on Ihubs, SBU's and stations dictate that it takes a minimum of about 7 days to flip one system.
Unless, of course, one was refering to one's own experience with the game, as perforce one has spent all of it within the padded cell that is EVE Uni, within hisec, learning everything there is to know about sov grinding from fellow inmates? The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1300
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Posted - 2012.06.07 09:11:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Well, Mocram just exposed himself as an iggernant hisec carebear. One does not simply go to sov space and flip sov in one day. The RF timers on Ihubs, SBU's and stations dictate that it takes a minimum of about 7 days to flip one system. Unless, of course, one was refering to one's own experience with the game, as perforce one has spent all of it within the padded cell that is EVE Uni, within hisec, learning everything there is to know about sov grinding from fellow inmates? I remember when E-Uni took a "class" to go teach some nubs about how sov worked. Only, none of them actually had a clue how it worked and they got their own TCU flipped on them by a guy in a cheetah. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1185
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:29:00 -
[218] - Quote
drdxie wrote:you will have at max 20seconds to kill the victim before concord shows up. You are not going to neut him\her out and kill them in that time, it will have to be an alpha strike. But curious to know your testing out come
Well, I tested it, turns out I was massively overestimating the difficulty of level fours.
My only real PvE experience is in WHs, and the higher level plexes. Turns out in level fours in a T3 you can turn your booster off for extended periods of time and nothing bad will come of it.
Ahh well, was worth a try.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
803
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:36:00 -
[219] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Well, Mocram just exposed himself as an iggernant hisec carebear. One does not simply go to sov space and flip sov in one day. The RF timers on Ihubs, SBU's and stations dictate that it takes a minimum of about 7 days to flip one system. Unless, of course, one was refering to one's own experience with the game, as perforce one has spent all of it within the padded cell that is EVE Uni, within hisec, learning everything there is to know about sov grinding from fellow inmates? I remember when E-Uni took a "class" to go teach some nubs about how sov worked. Only, none of them actually had a clue how it worked and they got their own TCU flipped on them by a guy in a cheetah. Wonder how many NPC Null systems they tried to SBU first. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
59
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:39:00 -
[220] - Quote
This thread show that only a few actually care about the "real" ganking.
Ganking a missioner requires an effort. Ganking a miner doesn't. Those not willing to participate in this, but only against defenceless ships are worse than carebears. |
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Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
19
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:40:00 -
[221] - Quote
Degren wrote:Spineker wrote:Oh but you think your special for ganking people. Using 10 people to kill a hauler or a hulk. So badass dude so badass I need your picture to hang on the wall. Such internet warriors you people are. I would not kill a Hulk or a hauler I found in low sec because there is not thrill in it. Man, so many tears, and I didn't even gank anybody. Nor have I. You're just so mad, it's adorable.
Why are you considering it tears when he is calling you a chickenshit ?? |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
803
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:43:00 -
[222] - Quote
Dors Venabily wrote:Why are you considering it tears when he is calling you a chickenshit ?? Tears are proof that someone had an emotional response. Calling someone chickenshit on an internet forum is pretty solid proof that someone is mad.
Hence, tears. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
138
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Posted - 2012.06.07 10:54:00 -
[223] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Well, Mocram just exposed himself as an iggernant hisec carebear. One does not simply go to sov space and flip sov in one day. The RF timers on Ihubs, SBU's and stations dictate that it takes a minimum of about 7 days to flip one system. Unless, of course, one was refering to one's own experience with the game, as perforce one has spent all of it within the padded cell that is EVE Uni, within hisec, learning everything there is to know about sov grinding from fellow inmates? I remember when E-Uni took a "class" to go teach some nubs about how sov worked. Only, none of them actually had a clue how it worked and they got their own TCU flipped on them by a guy in a cheetah. A bit off-topic but I'll go ahead.
As you say. It was a snicker moment - as for a class. Naw, that was a "lets go pick a fight with big guys and see what happens. Fly with a clean clone!". (Russian group held SOV there and they tend to be a scrappy sort. Fun trivia: That outpost there? The uni helped build it "back in the day" when the uni was out of nullsec -- long before my time.)
OUtside of that, I have messed with it a bit on SiSi before - when we do some classes on SOV, caps and such and parts are done on SiSi at times. "Safe" while you run folks around and CCP has some fully upgraded systems so we can show what the different upgrade levels look like/benefits, etc. while explaining them.
"In theory" - it can be done in about a day - flipping it neutral vs owned. In practice? Hell no. Part of the impossible outside of theory.
SBU goes up, reinforce the IHUB or what not - come back tomorrow to blow it up the rest of the way except they are dual reinforced so you can't do it really in 1 day - it takes 2 unless...
Unless you have an idiot or spy/traitor as a Director type in the owning group who specifies a shorter time window to come out of reinforced then, "in theory" - you can pop it in about 1 day. Lots of theoretical to get it done - system by system across a region. Wouldn't you agree?
PS: That SBU flip was a real /facepalm moment. They don't say that during anchoring the friggn thing can be flipped by a wiley pilot in a frigate, but it can... We popped the bad one, set another up... got bored waiting 3 hrs -- left. The details are on our KB. Pretty boring stuff sitting around like that.
The russians did show up later and blew it to hell and gone pretty fast - a few capitals and super carriers, with support, but it was a bit late so there weren't any uni really around at those hours. Gotta love time-zone issues. It would have been fun. I don't usually get in on those "let's go get blown up" big-ship runs. They're only done every few months is all and that would have been my first time getting to do one. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2012.06.07 11:02:00 -
[224] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Just out of interest has anyone tried suicide-neuting mission runners?
I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission?
You can always try, it might work on badly ftted and low skills pilot.
brb |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1187
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Posted - 2012.06.07 11:13:00 -
[225] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Just out of interest has anyone tried suicide-neuting mission runners?
I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission? You can always try, it might work on badly ftted and low skills pilot. Yeah, I must admit I've tested this now and it didn't work. But this was tested on my WH Tengu, which has perfect skills, 30k EHP and the capacitor reservoir engineering subsytem.
I might try it again later on a cheaper T2/partial deadspace fit and see what happens.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
673
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:01:00 -
[226] - Quote
So far this is looking to be the best investment I've ever made. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Valiant Star Operations
1
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:10:00 -
[227] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:So far this is looking to be the best investment I've ever made.
Maybe you should become the new trololo guy... ;P "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Eyezpiddydafooh
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.06.07 14:28:00 -
[228] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:So far this is looking to be the best investment I've ever made.
No, your best investment was the kneepads for when your smooching Goon ass, it has kept you from years of damage to bone structure. |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.06.07 16:27:00 -
[229] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it Neuting capabilities are what? And why would you suicide gank in a pirate faction BS, that's just silly. You have a good understanding of indirect questions, which is nice. I've got your answer here though, good luck webbing Tengu with Tornado and Cane |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1188
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Posted - 2012.06.07 16:39:00 -
[230] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it Neuting capabilities are what? And why would you suicide gank in a pirate faction BS, that's just silly. You have a good understanding of indirect questions, which is nice. I've got your answer here though, good luck webbing Tengu with Tornado and Cane Erm, standard cane fit has a web? And tank doesn't matter, as shown by Tippia's blog on concord response times tank is irrelevant to how fast you explode. Plenty of space for webs/TPs.
Unless you mean range, in which case who cares? Web range is around the same as medium neut range, and a cane/tornado both go helluva lot faster than a PvE tengu.
I still honestly don't understand what point you are trying to make. I get the impression that you believe webbing a tengu would be difficult? Trust me, it isn't, I kill them in low sec all the time.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
154
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:12:00 -
[231] - Quote
Snow Axe wrote:What is it with pubbies and awful contests with even worse prizes?
Every good post I visit today has already bin taken =(
ezh, +1 |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2012.06.07 17:48:00 -
[232] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote: I get the impression that you believe webbing a tengu would be difficult? Trust me, it isn't, I kill them in low sec all the time.
You and what army? |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1188
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Posted - 2012.06.07 18:21:00 -
[233] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: I get the impression that you believe webbing a tengu would be difficult? Trust me, it isn't, I kill them in low sec all the time.
You and what army? My personal army of alts and awoxxers.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Gerrards
Cosmological Ventures
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:26:00 -
[234] - Quote
Tallian Saotome wrote:Dors Venabily wrote:Why are you considering it tears when he is calling you a chickenshit ?? Tears are proof that someone had an emotional response. Calling someone chickenshit on an internet forum is pretty solid proof that someone is mad. Hence, tears.
You sound like a **** but I feel emotionally empty writing it. Is that tears ? |
SabotNoob
Sabot Industries
50
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:32:00 -
[235] - Quote
So where are we with this? Has it started? Any updates on the number of high sec mission runners ganked/baited yet? |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2012.06.07 23:43:00 -
[236] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Just out of interest has anyone tried suicide-neuting mission runners?
I'm thinking about testing this on the test server, but am I right in thinking that you could probably kill a tengu purely by webbing, neuting and target painting it during it's mission? You can always try, it might work on badly ftted and low skills pilot. Yeah, I must admit I've tested this now and it didn't work. But this was tested on my WH Tengu, which has perfect skills, 30k EHP and the capacitor reservoir engineering subsytem. I might try it again later on a cheaper T2/partial deadspace fit and see what happens.
I don't know if your WH has some negative effects on your ship, shields or resists but a normal setup should give you about 40K global ehp and a much larger buffer if specific dmg type
Actually to make it work you can't do it other way than immobilise the ship (tengu) and immediately apply about 45k Alpha, but in high sec this means either is a guy afk/noob skills or concord exploit brb |
EVE Roy Mustang
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.08 00:36:00 -
[237] - Quote
Slow P Oke wrote:EVE NEWS: DEGREN SAYS "Yes, you can totally gank mission ships." CAREBEARS COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO TRY TO SAY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
Ive been telling him to put his money where his mouth is actually.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
681
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Posted - 2012.06.08 02:08:00 -
[238] - Quote
Eyezpiddydafooh wrote:masternerdguy wrote:So far this is looking to be the best investment I've ever made. No, your best investment was the kneepads for when your smooching Goon ass, it has kept you from years of damage to bone structure.
Aaaw shucks sweetie. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
24
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:41:00 -
[239] - Quote
Greyscale Dash wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Isn't that a lot of expense for the chance to win one plex? Sure, you have the chance of some drops, but you're still looking at a lot of upfront cost, unlike ganking a hulk or mackinaw.
And people gank hulks for profit
A semi-tanked hulk will have about 11k EHP. A well tanked tengu will have at least double that. A well tanked faction battleship might have 60k or more EHP.
Which ship would you go after if a scan revealed a pure T2 fitting?
Note that a single tempest with 1400s and gyros can easily do 11k alfa even without T2 guns or T2 ammo. The question then becomes, "What can I gank with the least amount of cost to me since the likelihood of external reward is so small?"
I think the hulk becomes the overwhelmingly obvious choice if ganking is required. :)
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strikethree
Purple Passion Procurements
24
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Posted - 2012.06.08 04:57:00 -
[240] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can fit neuts on anything, it's a PvE T3, you can cap it out in a few cycles even with medium neuts.
Neuting capabilities are not the on... first reason why i've mentioned Bhaalgorn. I'm sure you know there's more to it Neuting capabilities are what? And why would you suicide gank in a pirate faction BS, that's just silly. My point is that even my rather shiny wh tengu only has ~2,700 capacitor capacity. And that's with the cap reservoir subsystem and a capacitor battery, since it runs at ~50% cap stable you could easily cap it out with medium neuts. A regular tengu would be capped out even faster. Makes me think two gank canes with neuts would actually be better for killing t3s than tornados. Might be best with one cane and a tornado, or two canes and a tornado. I suppose it depends on the NPC DPS in the mission. But anyway, my observation was merely that you could probably gank a T3 more effectively with neuts than alpha or pure DPS. I'll have to test it on sisi later with my alts.
I saw your later response about this idea not working. Here is why...
First things first: neuting is a passive attack. It can be fairly useful but does no damage itself. When time is critical, as it obviously is when a CONCORD response is expected, the very first thing that needs to be considered is alfa.
This is not to say that neuting is useless. Far from it. Check my deaths out (yes, this really is my main character). Look for a suicide gank performed upon me by The Executioners. It was fast, very professional, and my tengu was dead before I was even certain there was a threat. They used a neut domi and 7 tempests. Please take note of the tempests. They were for alfa. The domi was not even needed since the tempests were dealing enough damage to go beyond my EHP.
I do not fly faction fits any more but that has made the game more boring. Actually, in a few days, I will not be flying anything any more at all. Enjoy the ganking.
Cheers.
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Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.08 07:00:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me.
Somebody did not read the rules. Nobody is going to come afer you and it has nothing to do with being in Goonsville. You will have to go to high sec if you want to be a target. Not very likely so quite the bravado. I think you are too chicken to go to high sec! |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1190
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Posted - 2012.06.08 07:35:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:I don't know if your WH has some negative effects on your ship, shields or resists but a normal setup should give you about 40K global ehp and a much larger buffer if specific dmg type
Actually to make it work you can't do it other way than immobilise the ship (tengu) and immediately apply about 45k Alpha, but in high sec this means either is a guy afk/noob skills or concord exploit I was testing my Tengu fit in a mission environment, so no it wasn't WH effects. And my EHP is from EFT, not from the in-game tool.
I recommend you fit up some of the popular Tengu fits into EFT, some of them have as low as 15k EHP against EMP.
strikethree wrote:I saw your later response about this idea not working. Here is why...
First things first: neuting is a passive attack. It can be fairly useful but does no damage itself. When time is critical, as it obviously is when a CONCORD response is expected, the very first thing that needs to be considered is alfa.
This is not to say that neuting is useless. Far from it. Check my deaths out (yes, this really is my main character). Look for a suicide gank performed upon me by The Executioners. It was fast, very professional, and my tengu was dead before I was even certain there was a threat. They used a neut domi and 7 tempests. Please take note of the tempests. They were for alfa. The domi was not even needed since the tempests were dealing enough damage to go beyond my EHP. Oh wow, I had no idea neuting didn't do any DPS. Lol.
My point originally was that in a null sec plex (or a WH site) being neuted flat would kill you in a few seconds, especially with additional DPS/webs/TPs. I merely underestimated how easy lvl4s are, and the fact that you could probably very easily turn your tank off for most of them.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
684
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Posted - 2012.06.09 01:01:00 -
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confirming I am receiving EVE mails about kills. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
29
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Posted - 2012.06.09 04:46:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Would think you should offer a couple of plex for something like this, those tanks are hard as hell to crack.
I support this nonetheless.
as someone noted it's active tanked, which is something neuts will take care of easily enough |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
29
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Posted - 2012.06.09 04:47:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key.
sigh wish i'd gotten one of the last batch of 500 keys issued lol, be interesting seeing how many buy the founders pack :)
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Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
29
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Posted - 2012.06.09 04:50:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:^right behind ya with MWO, can't wait for my key. My atlas will be the best atlas. Is that the next game on the "ruin list" ? Stop being such a bitter girl. Goons are in every game you have ever played.
screaming "LEEERROOOYYY JJJEENNKKIINSS!!!!!!!" ? :) |
Boomhaur
84
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Posted - 2012.06.09 05:40:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:My tengu is in VFK at the moment. I encourage anyone to come at me. Somebody did not read the rules. Nobody is going to come afer you and it has nothing to do with being in Goonsville. You will have to go to high sec if you want to be a target. Not very likely so quit the bravado. I think you are too chicken to go to high sec!
"I think you are too chicken to go to high sec!" In all my years of eve I have NEVER once heard those words uttered. Something must be wrong with pilots these days. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Reina DeLaMuerte
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.09 22:59:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:We all know about ganking hulks, and it has had a mostly positive affect on EVE gameplay (only downside is it generating carebear entitlement posts in GD). However, suicide gankers focusing on hulks has left out some pretty juicy loot pinatas. The typical mission ship has minimal EHP for its class because it focuses on active tanking incoming damage. However, it doesn't matter if you can active tank when you're facing alpha. Did you know that many tengu pilots have less than 15k EHP? These tengus cost upwards of 2, 3, even 5 billion isk in high value faction/deadspace mods. Bearing in mind that hulkageddon is now infinite, I hereby announce a new competition. The character who kills the most ISK in Carebear Marauders, Faction Battleships and Strategic Cruisers by June 25, 2012 EST will recieve a free PLEX from everyone's favorite forum warrior masternerdguy.The competition will open on June 5, 2012 EST. Read on for competition rules
- All destroyed PVE ships must be destroyed in hi security space (0.5 sec status or higher)
- Vanilla EVE-Kill will be used to evaluate the market value of a ship at the end of the competition.
- To be considered, you must send an EVE-Mail of your successful gank to masternerdguy. Please include a killboard link using EVE-Kill in said mail.
- Only API verified kills will be counted, API verified by vanilla EVE-Kill.
- Only Marauder, Faction Battleship, and Strategic Cruiser kills will be counted in this competition.
- The guy you ganked cannot carry any warp disruptors or warp scramblers. If they carry one, they are not a hi sec PVE ship anymore****
NOTE: You don't need to suicide gank them, just kill them. Suicide ganks are nice but if you can do it without losing a ship all the better!As an additional bonus the guy who loses the most expensive mission boat because of this competition will receive a free consolation prize. Fly safe. ****If they have taken rat damage, and it is on their killmail, this rule can be ignored. Take that, mission farmers who know how to adapt!
I'll donate 1B to the prize pool as soon as I get home from work. One plex is just not sufficient. |
Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club Transmission Lost
100
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Posted - 2012.06.09 23:22:00 -
[249] - Quote
Only one PLEX?
Comeback when you're a bit
RICHER! |
drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2012.06.10 08:43:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:confirming I am receiving EVE mails about kills.
confirming Chribba subs my accounts from veldspar he mines for me see easy.. anyone can do it...
Missile enhancers.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235061& |
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Skorpynekomimi
221
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:28:00 -
[251] - Quote
So, my T2 fit Mael is safe from all this?
Good. I can't be bothered upgrading to anything more expensive, and you're justifying that. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2012.06.10 12:07:00 -
[252] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:confirming I am receiving EVE mails about kills.
I saw a Nyx flying over Paris last night, and he send all his drone orbit around Eiffel tower, was pretty brb |
John Caligan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.06.10 14:33:00 -
[253] - Quote
Remind me how mission runners are "Carebears" again? Last I saw, they still get shot at and loose their ships. |
Salonmom
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 15:04:00 -
[254] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:confirming I am receiving EVE mails about kills.
Yet he gives no direction to any such kill mails. Not even a go look at the killboards.
Proof? |
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.06.10 21:14:00 -
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Boooop wrote:nonames nofaces wrote:All it takes is some decent probing skills and some time. I don't think this will be very successful. It's just easier to kill an unaware hulk and you can do it with a week old character. So what you're saying is... gankers are lazy and go for easy pickings? If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
killroy v2
Thorn Project Black Thorne Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.06.11 20:22:00 -
[256] - Quote
thank you for making us whers richer |
Dirty Addict
HelpMyMissioners Epsilon Shimmy Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:47:00 -
[257] - Quote
I see Huge flaws with not only this idea but every "geddon" wannabe.
S adly plan hasn't been thought through. H ow will the reward's get anyone interested? I don't think you have the abilities or contacts to pull this off T o sum up, you need to think about it, save some isk/investors and get your corp/alliance interested before you hit the forums.
Sit down, play some music and eat before you try again. Like This |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
611
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Posted - 2012.06.16 11:52:00 -
[258] - Quote
Dirty Addict wrote:I see Huge flaws with not only this idea but every "geddon" wannabe. S adly plan hasn't been thought through. H ow will the reward's get anyone interested? I don't think you have the abilities or contacts to pull this off T o sum up, you need to think about it, save some isk/investors and get your corp/alliance interested before you hit the forums. Sit down, play some music and eat before you try again. Like This
Haha, well done with your 'sentence structure' and, I agree.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
97
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Posted - 2012.06.16 13:32:00 -
[259] - Quote
Please forgive me for being obtuse but if you use eight or more Tornadoes to suicide gank a high-sec mission runner in a T2 or Faction Battleship, how do you then split a PLEX eight ways. Sell it and give everyone in the gang gank 60m ISK? I don't get it. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Stalafur
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:22:00 -
[260] - Quote
I'm waiting for people to begin crying when the tengu pilots who aren't botting actually fights back. |
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LtCommander Tarkin
Shadow Core Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2012.06.16 16:25:00 -
[261] - Quote
Oh man, all of you guys are so pro mlg at pvp. |
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club Transmission Lost
29
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:09:00 -
[262] - Quote
Only one plex? Geez hulkageddon had billions in prizes for ganking easier to kill expensive T2 exhumers.
But now you're asking for us to gank Battleships and T3 which take more ships to gank all for a measly chance to win only a single plex?
I don't care what those missioning ships drop, if you want to a start an event you gotta have the good prizes to make it really happen.
Make it 15 Plexes as the top prize at the very least along with more prizes for 2nd, 3rd, and runner ups. Then we can talk about having a real event.
A single plex is an insult go make some more money. |
Norm Tempesta
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.16 19:53:00 -
[263] - Quote
Yep, agreed the prize is kinda wimpy.
There are a few dedicated MR griefers out there who kill a lot of battleships and marauders. I imagine one of them could walk away with the prize fairly easy. One of the pros who use an orca at a safe to grief out of, nice strat. |
Ashera Yune
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:17:00 -
[264] - Quote
How about you give me your plex and then i will go gank some expensive mission ships. |
Daemon Ceed
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
180
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Posted - 2012.06.17 00:52:00 -
[265] - Quote
Spineker wrote:How many dead Tengus tonight any score count? masterbater can't even go to highsec to try out his elite ganking skills since he is too busy doing what? He claims he destroys Hulks but how is that if he on the other side of his face says he is -10. I mission in Low Sec and never seen him.
I'm just going to leave this...here: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16594174
-10's can still gank in Highsec. Post with your main or GTFO! The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
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