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Soleil Fournier
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.09.09 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Soleil Fournier on 09/09/2009 00:05:48 Just wanting to know if there's a time frame that the meeting minutes from last weekends meeting could be posted?
Thanks
Sol
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Treelox
Amarr Evolution
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Posted - 2009.09.09 05:51:00 -
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If the last couple CSM/CCP Iceland minutes are anything to go by, your looking at a +3week wait before the sanitized minutes get posted.
I for one expect them to sadly be further delayed because of CCP focusing on getting the finishing touches on Fan Fest that takes place in less than a month.
If we are real lucky, the minutes come out before FF, giving those who are able to attend a basis from which to form smart questions to the CCP QnA panels at FF. I suspect this is just wishful thinking on my part. --
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:34:00 -
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I'll see what I can do to speed things up Director of Education :: EVE University Your signature file is too large. Please use one that is no larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout Chairman of the CSM
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RansomList
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Posted - 2009.09.09 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: RansomList on 09/09/2009 22:28:48 You can read an account of the CSM experience here, with everything covered by the NDA redacted, while you are waiting.
Mazzilliu's Iceland Trip Report~
EDIT: Or you could if CCP didnt censor URL's !
Smart people can quote the post and g to the linked address manually after trying to navigate to www.xxxxxxxxxx.com thanks to the censors.
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Meissa Anunthiel
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Posted - 2009.09.10 00:10:00 -
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The minutes are being written as we speak, have done nearly nothing but that today, there's about 40 pages of notes to go through and format in a readable and concise fashion, bear with me here...
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.09.10 12:08:00 -
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the best meeting minutes, pre-release edition. its all you need to know.
page 1 http://i27.tinypic.com/2qt9wkm.jpg
page 2 http://i25.tinypic.com/2e1gjte.jpg
yeah i also posted that in my trip report
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu the best meeting minutes, pre-release edition. its all you need to know.
page 1 http://i27.tinypic.com/2qt9wkm.jpg
page 2 http://i25.tinypic.com/2e1gjte.jpg
yeah i also posted that in my trip report
uhh, since you left out brunch and break. I sincerely believe that what you all are doing.
p.s: whatever your doing in real life, keep doing cause you suck big tim at drawing lol. Well, you would rock as a Caldari design engineering team though
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Cryten Jones
Gallente Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2009.09.15 10:13:00 -
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Any news on that speeding up ??
-CJ
Originally by: Nogap toosmall
and your understanding of probability is on par with a radish.
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RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.09.15 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cryten Jones Any news on that speeding up ??
-CJ
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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GuntiNDDS
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Posted - 2009.09.16 09:06:00 -
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i have shortened version for you:
csm: {insert issue text here} ccp: no, we not gonna do that. csm: ah ok. sorry for asking this crap. do you feel well ? can i do you a quick blow-job ?
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Cryten Jones
Gallente Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2009.09.16 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: GuntiNDDS i have shortened version for you:
csm: {insert issue text here} ccp: no, we not gonna do that. csm: ah ok. sorry for asking this crap. do you feel well ? can i do you a quick blow-job ?
Please, just format your C drive and sell your computer.
-CJ
Originally by: Nogap toosmall
and your understanding of probability is on par with a radish.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre REIGN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.19 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cryten Jones Edited by: Cryten Jones on 17/09/2009 20:46:13 Can we please have a status update on these minutes guys!
-CJ
\o/ Yes... must know about my proposed issue! Did it get pushed through or not? ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= |
Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.09.20 13:13:00 -
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minutes have been finished and sent to CCP as far as I'm aware. Director of Education :: EVE University Chairman of the CSM
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Happy Joymaker
Conflagration.
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Posted - 2009.09.22 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Happy Joymaker on 22/09/2009 16:11:10
Originally by: RansomList Edited by: RansomList on 09/09/2009 22:28:48 You can read an account of the CSM experience here, with everything covered by the NDA redacted, while you are waiting.
Mazzilliu's Iceland Trip Report~
EDIT: Or you could if CCP didnt censor URL's !
Smart people can quote the post and g to the linked address manually after trying to navigate to www.xxxxxxxxxx.com thanks to the censors.
Thanks Maz, but no way in h*ll will I go to kugut*sumen site ________________________
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2009.09.23 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Happy Joymaker Edited by: Happy Joymaker on 22/09/2009 16:11:10
Originally by: RansomList Edited by: RansomList on 09/09/2009 22:28:48 You can read an account of the CSM experience here, with everything covered by the NDA redacted, while you are waiting.
Mazzilliu's Iceland Trip Report~
EDIT: Or you could if CCP didnt censor URL's !
Smart people can quote the post and g to the linked address manually after trying to navigate to www.xxxxxxxxxx.com thanks to the censors.
Thanks Maz, but no way in h*ll will I go to kugut*sumen site
its also on SHC http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=29013
MAZZILLIU 2009. CHANGE I CAN IMPOSE ON YOU. |
RedSplat
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Posted - 2009.09.24 18:14:00 -
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Does it really take this long to redact and censor a document?
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Cryten Jones
Gallente Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2009.09.25 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Does it really take this long to redact and censor a document?
I agree, it's getting stupid! I get that Fanfest is next week and there is allot to do but quite frankly I don't give a monkeys!
Either do the job properly or don't do it at all IMHO.
-CJ
Originally by: Nogap toosmall
and your understanding of probability is on par with a radish.
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Micia
Minmatar Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2009.09.25 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: Happy Joymaker Edited by: Happy Joymaker on 22/09/2009 16:11:10
Originally by: RansomList Edited by: RansomList on 09/09/2009 22:28:48 You can read an account of the CSM experience here, with everything covered by the NDA redacted, while you are waiting.
Mazzilliu's Iceland Trip Report~
EDIT: Or you could if CCP didnt censor URL's !
Smart people can quote the post and g to the linked address manually after trying to navigate to www.xxxxxxxxxx.com thanks to the censors.
Thanks Maz, but no way in h*ll will I go to kugut*sumen site
its also on SHC http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=29013
Brilliant.
It's everywhere except on EVE's own site - you know - where most actual paying pilots go?
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:57:00 -
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BUMP!
The more this is delayed, the more we get bad impressions. Complete farce if this is not out monday or tuesday, so people have time to go through it before fanfest next weekend.
There was a half mile of things put on the public list of potential subjects to be raised.
OP asked for this 9/9, we have 27/9 now. More than 2 weeks. 18 days to be exact. What *good* reasons are there such a delay.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2009.09.27 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/09/2009 23:56:09 Its a pretty poor show but theres not a lot you can do about it Im pretty sure nobody cares about the people posting in here.
Perhaps if the people who are complaining they want to raise points at FanFest were to actually complain vocally at fanfest, rather then backslapping each other, making beer jokes, comparing Eve Bum bags, at guffawing at awful gags in devs speeches perhaps something might be done for next time.
To be fair though, in all probability (and gathering what we can from the various CSM hints) there will be things in the responses to the issues brought up, which would ruing the "suprise" of the unveiling of other things at fanfest - and thus they want to keep it underwraps.
SKUNK (o)
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2009.09.29 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/09/2009 23:56:09 Its a pretty poor show but theres not a lot you can do about it Im pretty sure nobody cares about the people posting in here.
Perhaps if the people who are complaining they want to raise points at FanFest were to actually complain vocally at fanfest, rather then
I'm not going to fanfest, others are. They could be asking questions, but it is hard to know what the CSM questions should be and if there are any worth using the opportunity to ask, when we don't even get to see the minutes. And thats not even taking into consideration the forum discussion of the minutes. Who does not remember the infamous "40%" quote from one of those minutes, and all the talk that spawned. There were lots of things that could have been debated, so it won't be necessary to waste time with them at fanfest - or at least you would have been far better prepared to go in depth with them if they have been opened up on the forum first.
What's the whole point of it, if it is just going to be some closed counsil that doesn't give the feedback people need? Has it has become a empty shell that goes through the motions, but noone involved, neither CSM or CCP, really care one bit and certainly don't care to inform the general public? I am at lack for the english equivalent, but the danish readers might know what i mean when i ask: er det gset hen og blevet en syltekrukke?
CSM used to be trumpeted as a democratic step forward and unique among MMO's for improving the player-dev information flow, something important and to be applauded. The current state is giving the impression of slacking and not caring.
I think you are right about noone caring about the posts in this section of the forum. It is quite likely assumed that anyone with anything worthwhile to say is already directly connected to either a CCP'er or a CSM delegate.
And 'Assembly Hall' is looking more and more like Features and Ideas, with the difference that most people have learned to slap [Proposal], [Idea] or [Issue] on their horse to make it look official.
I can just note that today, tuesday during downtime, they have still not been posted and the thing kicks off on thursday, less than 48h from now.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.29 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ariane VoxDei Complete farce if this is not out monday or tuesday, so people have time to go through it before fanfest next weekend. [/quote
It is possible there are parts of the CSM meeting discussions that regard new that CCP want to announce during the Fanfest, so they don't want the minute published before the official announcement as it will reduce the impact of the new.
So probably we will see the minutes only after the Fanfest.
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small chimp
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Posted - 2009.09.29 13:32:00 -
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This is pretty outrageous. Why don't you publish those meeting minutes?! You lazy bastard poodles!
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OwlManAtt
Gallente Yasashii Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.30 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul It is possible there are parts of the CSM meeting discussions that regard new that CCP want to announce during the Fanfest, so they don't want the minute published before the official announcement as it will reduce the impact of the new.
So probably we will see the minutes only after the Fanfest.
Communicating that would be nice. Completely ignoring everybody for a month is terribly unprofessional.
From my understanding, somebody inside CCP is the hold-up on getting these published. Can one of the CSM delegates tell us whose inbox we need to start filling with daily reminders to get the minutes published? --- Owl |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:03:00 -
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For that matter, did the minutes of the last CSM2 meeting ever get posted?
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2009.10.02 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto For that matter, did the minutes of the last CSM2 meeting ever get posted?
yep ----------------------
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2009.10.04 14:46:00 -
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So the fanfest turned out to be a damp squib (information wise) so one wonders whats the big hold up with the much more important minutes
SKUNK (o)
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.10.04 20:59:00 -
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To show you it is even worse, I am now a CSM 3 members and I don't have the minutes of the meeting yet either. I would have expected to have gotten the raw version sent to me immediately after I was appointed as a replacement.
They must be very "special" to have taken this long.
Issler
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Mynxee
Minmatar Hellcats The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.10.05 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Mynxee on 05/10/2009 01:15:01 Could someone on the CSM suggest that the actual DATE be put at the top of the raw logs and the meeting minutes themselves when they are posted? Labeling them using the format "3.008" is decidedly unhelpful and incomplete when you are wondering when exactly the discussion took place.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2009.10.06 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee Edited by: Mynxee on 05/10/2009 01:15:01 Could someone on the CSM suggest that the actual DATE be put at the top of the raw logs and the meeting minutes themselves when they are posted? Labeling them using the format "3.008" is decidedly unhelpful and incomplete when you are wondering when exactly the discussion took place.
Good idea
For the meeting minutes we are waiting for, perhaps 14/02/2010 might be an appropriate date
SKUNK (o)
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