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Finshraira
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.03 03:08:00 -
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I have all tech two fits on my ship and am almost ready to goto 0.0 space. But before i go i would like to know what kind of guns are the most effective for my ship vs same or smaller ships such as frigates, intercepters, and stealth bombers.
Currently i am in an Ammar ship and have 8 tec2 Beam guns.
Are rail guns a better thing to fit? maybe pulse? est?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.03 04:49:00 -
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Destroyers...
I have a hard time keeping them alive.
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Ran Khanon
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Posted - 2009.09.03 07:13:00 -
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Why not take a cruiser? Destro's are great in killing small stuff, but that is about it. A cruiser gives you the edge on most destroyers tankwise, and more diverse functionality, slotwise. Then again, why not take a Battle Cruiser? Even more slot options, a large array of weapon hardpoints and an even better tank and still quite affordable. Then again ...
Nevermind that. I reckon you want to fly with frig speed, nimbleness and prices. As far as I know pulse CAN have an edge in dps / cap use ratio with a little less range. Though you don't need to be close to tackle since you don't have much to tackle with on a destro so if you prefer fighting from longer range you might as well stick with beams.
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Kezzle
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Posted - 2009.09.03 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Finshraira Are rail guns a better thing to fit?
Do you get bonuses for Rails or Lasers on that hull? Can you fit T2 Rails as well as Beams? Can you use them as well? Answer these questions and you'll probably be able to answer your own for yourself.
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Grumples McGee
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Posted - 2009.09.03 20:52:00 -
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Yeah, I wouldn't really use a destroyer. The problem is they're too big. You'll find yourself getting creamed by cruiser weapons which would have barely scratched a frigate. Yet, for that big increase in size, the destroyer doesn't gain a big increase in defenses.
The extra DPS is nice but I don't think it compensates for the terrible defense.
Anyway, I would either go with pulse or just switch to another destroyer type. Thrasher for projectiles or Cormorant for blasters can both be good. I don't think an Ammar destroyer would do terribly well as lasers are not a favored PvP weapon in general. You'd get better DPS out of something else, plus lasers drain your cap.
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Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.03 21:01:00 -
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Destroyers are awesome.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.04 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kezzle
Originally by: Finshraira Are rail guns a better thing to fit?
Do you get bonuses for Rails or Lasers on that hull? Can you fit T2 Rails as well as Beams? Can you use them as well? Answer these questions and you'll probably be able to answer your own for yourself.
This^^
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Zorai Miraden
Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.04 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Destroyers are awesome.
Please elaberate. Unless you are just fighting frigs, cleaning up rat droppings, or in a T2 Destroyer they're not so good. At the very least I've never heard of them being good for much else. In most cases you're better off in a frig or a cruiser. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |
ServantOfMask
Minmatar Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.04 10:24:00 -
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fit for speed and gank, go after frig sized stuff and dessies shine.. go up against anything else or let an inty get up close and personal and its over fast. "Misina Arlath
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Vasim Vio
Crazy Triangulators
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Posted - 2009.09.04 10:49:00 -
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With latest changes in rigs, destroyers should get more attention. With very cheap small rigs you can rig destroyer to be useful in many situations. For example, i've made PST cormorant (was experimenting with PST thrasher but couldn't make good dps+range combo) that could effectively fight in some COSMOS combat sites in Friggi (where only frigates/destroyers allowed, most of people use assault frigates there).
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Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.04 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zorai Miraden
Originally by: Cpt Branko Destroyers are awesome.
Please elaberate. Unless you are just fighting frigs, cleaning up rat droppings, or in a T2 Destroyer they're not so good. At the very least I've never heard of them being good for much else. In most cases you're better off in a frig or a cruiser.
They kill T2 frigs, don't get caught in just about every camp (like a cruiser does), and are cheap as peanuts compared to AFs/interceptors/etc.
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Pac SubCom
A.W.M
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Posted - 2009.09.04 11:34:00 -
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Destroyers render useless or kill most frigs on the field. Please help me understand why this capability should not be balanced with a larger sig radius so that the opposition has a chance to kill them.
EW and intelligent positioning go a very long way to protect your destroyers.
AF can be understood as anti-destroyer frigs. --------------- ∞ TQFE
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Mordachai
The Circle
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Posted - 2009.09.13 12:01:00 -
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personally i love the cormorant plus overload ^^¦
i max out dps and shield put on mwd 2 point scram and web then try to beat the other frig on DPS/tank... (be the first one to kill) i managed to beat a flycatcher in my cormorant alone but it was very very close call....
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Tyrone Bighams
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.10.25 01:13:00 -
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im seeing loads of alk about the cormorant, but wheres the love for the good old catalyst?
btw.....BUMP! happily being blown to shreds in the name of pvp experience, sincerely, Ty. |
Ulwithy Arillious
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Posted - 2009.10.25 05:55:00 -
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Just to let you know, you're going to get ****d if you go alone into 0.0 with a destroyer.
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FISHANDCHIPS
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Posted - 2009.10.25 15:07:00 -
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destroyers = AWESOME
thrasher = UNGODLY AWESOME
dessy gang = LOTS O FUN
frig,dessy,AS,SB,EWF,DICOTR gang = TONS O FUN and pretty cheap at the end of the day
sure they might be paper thin but there cheap as chips and fun to fly and at the end of the day thats all that counts in my books
(stuck up,arrogant,l33t prat pvp's need not applie to these gangs)
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Rovern Hashu
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.25 21:14:00 -
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T2 Pulses MWD DC + Heat Sinks (its a destroyer, they don't tank well)
Fit 3 locus rigs for range and use scorch crystals . . . cheap, anti frig/af/sb/eaf. Can be lots of fun, expect to lose a lot of them.
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The Tzar
T-Wrecks Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.25 23:40:00 -
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Pulse is one idea, I prefer to stay out of trouble in such a flimsy ship with a setup like this;
[Coercer, 50km] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Capacitor Power Relay II
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Energy Locus Coordinator I Energy Locus Coordinator I Energy Locus Coordinator I
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2009.10.26 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: FISHANDCHIPS thrasher = UNGODLY AWESOME
TD Thrasher w/locus rigs = mother of ungodly awesome
-- He said "The President is near."
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Flora Flynn
Woopatang
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:15:00 -
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Choose your target's carefully.
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Andracin
Minmatar Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.10.28 02:55:00 -
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[Thrasher, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 1MN Afterburner II
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
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Finshraira
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.10.28 04:27:00 -
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WOW! im flattered that this post is alive again after a month :D
Also thx for the info on flying 1. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.10.28 06:51:00 -
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This thread also helped me keep by desy alive.
Thanks, thread!
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2009.10.28 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Andracin [Thrasher, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 1MN Afterburner II
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
[Thrasher, Thrasher killer] 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S 250mm Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Monopropellant I Hydrazine Booster Warp Disruptor II F-392 Baker Nunn Targeting Scrambler, Optimal Range
Gyrostabilizer II Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Sm. Projectile Locus Coordinator Sm. Projectile Locus Coordinator Sm. Projectile Collision Accelerator
-- He said "The President is near."
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Xing Fey
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Posted - 2009.10.29 01:04:00 -
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280mm thrasher with 2 sensor boosters, a disruptor, and 2 gyrostabs. (Needs AWU V or an ACR)
lol, what pod?
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