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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 01:23:00 -
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I can fly Minmatar Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers. Amarr Frigates and destroyers. Gallente Frigates, AFs, Destroyers, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships.
I can use a prototype Cloak, T2 small Hybrid Blasters and rails (And T1 every other gun), Tech 2 Explosive and Thermal drones up to Medium drones (This next Wednesday I will finish Combat Drone Operation V). I have all the pre-reqs for Thermodynamics, but no skillbook yet, I have (I think) all the pre-reqs for T1 Sentry drones.
What I want to do is move to Providence, with nothing but a cloak frigate and +3s (Please tell me there is a better way to get there, I'm really not familiar with the space, even if I have to stick with an empty clone to make it there). I want to do this because my corp has been inactive for too long, and I'm leaving the corp very soon, I wanted to fix my -3.something sec status to be able to move back to highsec with my other alt who runs missions all the time. To see from there where I want to go, since I doubt with my schedule many corps would take me, or if my.. mess of skills will prevent me from being taken seriously.
I welcome trolls and flames, what I give out I don't mind to get in return. Thanks everyone for advice and I'll be obviously posting on here adding in what I think of the advice. Please ask me if you need to know what skill I have for what items, or what standings to what corp. I just want to PvP again ________________________________________________
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.29 01:49:00 -
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I'm not...entirely sure what the question is.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lexa Hellfury I'm not...entirely sure what the question is.
How would I be able to effectively rat to increase my sec status.
What ship would be the best with skills listed. The problem I have is when I see a thread about ratting, I see fits that I can't entirely use, people going "Oh use a HAC" is something that I can't do. And I've always been uneasy with using a BS to rat and always had trouble ratting angels in anything less than a BS.
Or is it a stupid idea all together and I should just look for a pirate corp sinc eI want to PvP. ________________________________________________
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Shitzen Giggles
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:03:00 -
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The rats in providence aren't all that dangerous, you should be fine in a BC. Ratting in a BS is often just a liability
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Janice Jankowski
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:04:00 -
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Fit lasers
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Talon Calais
Gallente 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest
What I want to do is move to Providence, with nothing but a cloak frigate and +3s (Please tell me there is a better way to get there, I'm really not familiar with the space, even if I have to stick with an empty clone to make it there).
Providence is currently full, please come back in 3-4 months.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:11:00 -
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Get amarr cruiser up to 4 asap and use the bog standard arbi ratter. Cheap as chips even with no insurance and will eat providence rats alive.
[Arbitrator, Budget ratter] Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Photon Scattering Field I 10MN Afterburner I
Heavy Beam Laser I, Microwave M Heavy Beam Laser I, Microwave M Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead I x5 Hobgoblin I x5
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Get amarr cruiser up to 4 asap and use the bog standard arbi ratter. Cheap as chips even with no insurance and will eat providence rats alive.
[Arbitrator, Budget ratter] Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Photon Scattering Field I 10MN Afterburner I
Heavy Beam Laser I, Microwave M Heavy Beam Laser I, Microwave M Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead I x5 Hobgoblin I x5
While awesome I really wouldn't like to spend my time training more. That will currently take me the time it takes to train from Amarr frigate 3 to 4, then Amarr Cruiser up to 4, including the laser skills and shield skills.
I have mostly Armor tanking skills and Hybrid weapon system skills. All my support is to IV with 5 days left on surgical strike V that I stopped training to train something that was closer. I do also have Medium and Small Projectile weapons trained to only III, because it was for a Rifter and Myrmidon fit I wanted. ________________________________________________
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:27:00 -
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If most of your tanking skills are armor, I'd recommend using either a Myrm (to be on the safe side) or a vexor. Granted, I don't have any Gallente experience, but I used to have a corp mate who loved ratting in a vexor. Also, I wouldn't pigeonhole myself into Providence. If all you're doing is ratting to get your sec status up, you can do that in pretty much any 0.0 space. Just avoid the main entry points, and you shouldn't run into many (if any) camps.
Just as an FYI (which you probably know, but just in case you don't) you only get a sec status increase per system every 15 minutes, according to the highest rated rat you killed in that system. So, pop into a belt, pop a BS rat, head into another system, pop another rat, etc. ______ Why has the number of players online dropped from 50k to 25k? BECAUSE OF SWINE FLU |
Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pater Peccavi If most of your tanking skills are armor, I'd recommend using either a Myrm (to be on the safe side) or a vexor. Granted, I don't have any Gallente experience, but I used to have a corp mate who loved ratting in a vexor. Also, I wouldn't pigeonhole myself into Providence. If all you're doing is ratting to get your sec status up, you can do that in pretty much any 0.0 space. Just avoid the main entry points, and you shouldn't run into many (if any) camps.
Just as an FYI (which you probably know, but just in case you don't) you only get a sec status increase per system every 15 minutes, according to the highest rated rat you killed in that system. So, pop into a belt, pop a BS rat, head into another system, pop another rat, etc.
I know that.
I currently live in Curse, in a very crowded system that I think I'd have trouble just leaving. I have tried ratting angels in a Myrm, but even with T2 drones it had too low DPS to kill a BS before a neut enters the system. I've tried an Ishkur and Enyo which both can tank it, but I'd have to kill the frigs --> BCs first, and I couldn't kill the BSes with their tank. ________________________________________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest While awesome I really wouldn't like to spend my time training more. That will currently take me the time it takes to train from Amarr frigate 3 to 4, then Amarr Cruiser up to 4, including the laser skills and shield skills.
Fair enough. However even with med energy weapon 1 and shield upgrades 1 you will fare much better vs providence rats than trying to armour tank and use hybrids. Getting those skilled should take only a few hours to get small energy to 3 so you can train med energy turrets.
So thus: Bit less em and therm resists but should still be moar than enough if you keep the transversal up. You can fit pulses if you wish for a bit moar damage but I find I like the choice of shooting them from a distance better as it keeps you out of the belt instead of right near the warp in point if you go for a tight orbit. [Vexor, Amarr ratter] Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I 10MN Afterburner I
Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead I x5 Hobgoblin I x5 Warrior I x5
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Bestofworst Worstofbest on 29/08/2009 02:45:49 Ok seems more reasonable. So if I train up the skills needed for the tech 1 pulses and shield mods I can basically fit this:
[Vexor, Amarr ratter] Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I 10MN Afterburner II
Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M Focused Medium Beam Laser I, Microwave M
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
While I do have trouble since I can't rig my own stuff past CCCs, the problem is trivial since skill training time is less than a day to get Lvl1 for these.
189 DPS 4M Cap 14,388 EHP
Defence: 36 36
..I think somethign is wrong with EFT. without AB it says I go 19 m/s, with AB I go 45 m/s... Edit: Ok, now it wont update my cahrs for some reason, it keeps saying I need gallente drone spec II for hob goblin II's but nothing for the Hammerhead II's...
Btw I seem to suck very much at this game and I just now come to terms with how much I suck. I just really need to find a way to get out of curse, to a safe spot to rat my sec status back up, or find a low sec PvP corp (which is what I want anyway, PvP) that will take me with my hectic schedule. ________________________________________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.29 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest ..I think somethign is wrong with EFT. without AB it says I go 19 m/s, with AB I go 45 m/s...
Turn off the cloak. Oh and a tip. Go for the bc and not the bs then move on as you get a good percentage of the increase from killing a bs and can visit many more systems in a row with the much faster kill time. Find a nice six system stretch that is interlinked as much as possible and get positive with a quickness.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest ..I think somethign is wrong with EFT. without AB it says I go 19 m/s, with AB I go 45 m/s...
Turn off the cloak. Oh and a tip. Go for the bc and not the bs then move on as you get a good percentage of the increase from killing a bs and can visit many more systems in a row with the much faster kill time. Find a nice six system stretch that is interlinked as much as possible and get positive with a quickness.
Ok fixed. And as for the drone thing, I trained Gallente drone spec to IV on SiSi but not on TQ. ________________________________________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.29 03:06:00 -
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Train it up as you rat.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.29 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Train it up as you rat.
4 days 2 hrs left on Combat drone Op V, and while I train that I have T2 Valks to use. ________________________________________________
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.29 11:20:00 -
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For sec status returns it's not what you fly, it's how you fly it.
Firstly, only kill 1 rat in a given system... BS is best, and move on. You can do this handily in a stealth bomber and still keep yourself alive in hostile territory.
Kill 1 BS, go to another system, rinse & repeat. This is because the eve system only tabulates security gain on the highest return ship you've killed in a given system in the last 15 mins. So, if you can kill 1 BS in 3 mins or less per system you can make a circuit of 5 systems and get security returns every 3 minutes versus every 15. Do this with a gang of 4 stealth bombers and 1 inty/fast cruiser (to keep the rat frigs busy or kill them) can ace this tactic magnificently.
With the right setup and rapid find & kill of rat BS you can get about 1 point of sec status an hour (about 3-5 mins per system on average). A SB gang can do this even faster and still avoid the occasional camp.
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