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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.09.01 02:54:00 -
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don't failfit your ships and well then it should be easy enough to get along with him!
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
If Mr.X constrained his self admiration to fail fits no one would really care. Rant more though about how the Megathron is garbage and the only BS worth flying are Geddon and Dominix.
Wut. I don't recall saying that the megathron is garbage... I realize you are upset that I embarrassed you in front of the fleet the other night, it's okay. You can let the tears flow here.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence You just basically repeat the same **** we can read here except in an overstated way - failing to grasp that fleet PVP is not like solo PVP
Do ho ho. I c ur insinuations. Well you have fun with your mega in those large gang fights you just mentioned; I'm busy stroking my scorch L.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Edited to add: And if you were FC'ing, I really wouldn't care. But this is in chat. I don't need a recap of lovely comments like "Stealth bombers are useless" and "Assault Frigates are useless", etc. They aren't the end all and be all but they have a purpose and they suit those purposes and watching you rant about it for an hour
Nice imaginary quotes there. I did not say that bombers were useless. Just because you take SB fleets against inties and die terribly, please do not assume that the rest of the EVE population is equally inept.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence when I'm checking for WT intel doesn't make me respect you any more.
Considering you advocate the use of "stealtbomber only" fleets against roaming frig gangs, yeah, I really don't seek your "respect"
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:49:00 -
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[03:55:22] Psyflame > lol. beltanis is such a scrub [03:55:34] alden good > y? [03:55:42] Psyflame > He's crying on eve forums because I insulted his assault frigate [03:55:51] alden good > o lol [03:56:06] Psyflame > definitely going to pop him now [03:56:13] alden good > .......... [03:57:40] Stertanis > heheheh
Someone didn't read the warning in my first post and posted the truth with his main. Your days in militia are numbered, Beltranis
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Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:06:00 -
[64]
Can't fit Scorch L in tech 1 guns. derp derp.
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DUYSheep
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:39:00 -
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U can always join the gallente militia, we don't like psyflame either. Scrubs like that don't have a place here. We won't trust you tho, but u will get the chance to kill him and his buddies now and then. Everyone who is sick of caldari bull**** should come gallente side. We may not approve of your failfits but we will politely inform you of alternatives. Everyone here is appreciated, even the spies.
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Beltantis Torrence
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:30:30 Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:30:04
Originally by: Psyflame
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
If Mr.X constrained his self admiration to fail fits no one would really care. Rant more though about how the Megathron is garbage and the only BS worth flying are Geddon and Dominix.
Wut. I don't recall saying that the megathron is garbage... I realize you are upset that I embarrassed you in front of the fleet the other night, it's okay. You can let the tears flow here.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence You just basically repeat the same **** we can read here except in an overstated way - failing to grasp that fleet PVP is not like solo PVP
Do ho ho. I c ur insinuations. Well you have fun with your mega in those large gang fights you just mentioned; I'm busy stroking my scorch L.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Edited to add: And if you were FC'ing, I really wouldn't care. But this is in chat. I don't need a recap of lovely comments like "Stealth bombers are useless" and "Assault Frigates are useless", etc. They aren't the end all and be all but they have a purpose and they suit those purposes and watching you rant about it for an hour
Nice imaginary quotes there. I did not say that bombers were useless. Just because you take SB fleets against inties and die terribly, please do not assume that the rest of the EVE population is equally inept.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence when I'm checking for WT intel doesn't make me respect you any more.
Considering you advocate the use of "stealtbomber only" fleets against roaming frig gangs, yeah, I really don't seek your "respect"
Ha. You embarassed me in front of fleet but I'm making stuff up? You've never said anything to me in fleets, I just get tired of your whining. I don't fly stealth bombers - I have no missile skills to speak of.
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Beltantis Torrence
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 01/09/2009 12:50:57 ---------- [ 2009.08.14 01:27:37 ] Psyflame > mega is a joke ship after the web nerf. even the devs said so ... [ 2009.08.14 01:30:39 ] Psyflame > I would much rather have a geddon or a rokh, oh wait i have both ... [ 2009.08.14 01:31:19 ] Psyflame > abaddon does more dps and has better tracking from 5km-55km.mega can't even track @ sub 5km.It's pathetic. ... [ 2009.08.14 01:32:15 ] Psyflame > my triage nid laughs at these puny rr ----------
Anyway, that's like one days worth of logs. He drones on and on like that all day.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:04:00 -
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I'm so gonna make an alt and have him join FW.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:25:00 -
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Quoting this so you can't edit it away.
Originally by: Beltantis Torrence
Some choice Psyflame quotes :
[ 2009.08.24 22:54:36 ] Psyflame > you mean you are a scrub who has not been playing as long as i have [ 2009.08.24 22:54:49 ] Psyflame > and confuse a NH with a real ship, like a vulture -------- [ 2009.08.26 01:37:27 ] Psyflame > Public Service Announcement:Properly flown t1 cruisers will DESTROY t2 frigates every time.Assault frigates are not pvp ships.If you want a t2 frig, fly an inty! They are great! [ 2009.08.26 01:39:18 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > i've been in af fleets and we've owned bc and t2 cruisers [ 2009.08.26 01:39:18 ] Psyflame > facepalm?oh you want to try assault frigs vs t1 cruisers? [ 2009.08.26 01:39:36 ] Psyflame > i have been in badger fleets and we have owned bc and t2 cruisers [ 2009.08.26 01:39:44 ] Psyflame > does that make badger a pvp ship? [ 2009.08.26 01:39:50 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > now if you are talking 1v1 fights then you are right... every thing i talk im talking fleets [ 2009.08.26 01:40:13 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > and i fly a maller and i know what i can do [ 2009.08.26 01:40:26 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > and i dont fly a hawk [ 2009.08.26 01:40:27 ] Psyflame > af have even less reason to be in a fleet.They lock slower than interceptor, can't speedtank, cant local tank, can't rr, don't have any ehp, and cost way too much [ 2009.08.26 01:40:28 ] Limyc > what can a af do that an inty can't do better? AFs are just heavy tanking tacklers [ 2009.08.26 01:40:30 ] Lexang > so your AF is going to contribute more dps than a t1 cruiser in a fleet? are you that bad at fitting cruisers? [ 2009.08.26 01:41:12 ] Limyc > who u talking to lex? [ 2009.08.26 01:41:13 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > if your doing a fast moving frig fleet then af are your only real dps [ 2009.08.26 01:41:16 ] UDSaxman > hirri is empty [ 2009.08.26 01:41:23 ] Beltantis Torrence > that being said a nos fitting repping AF can hold most BS tackled indefinately, even if they're fitting neuts [ 2009.08.26 01:41:24 ] Psyflame > "fast moving frig fleet" [ 2009.08.26 01:41:36 ] Limyc > afs are NOT fast [ 2009.08.26 01:41:38 ] Psyflame > you realize that my private hac gangs move faster than your plated AF's will ever dream, right? [ 2009.08.26 01:41:52 ] StupidMonkey's Bro > got me more kills in frig fleets then bs roams [ 2009.08.26 01:42:02 ] Psyflame > ydiw [ 2009.08.26 01:42:05 ] Beltantis Torrence > the benefit they have over HACs is lock time [ 2009.08.26 01:42:12 ] Beltantis Torrence > but yeah [ 2009.08.26 01:42:13 ] Infected Cure > Psy what does 'local tank' mean [ 2009.08.26 01:42:17 ] kerbochard > friggin crap..... do we have to have this damn argument in militia chat again? [ 2009.08.26 01:42:17 ] Beltantis Torrence > i'd usually rather fly hacs or cruisers [ 2009.08.26 01:42:37 ] Psyflame > personal reps.aka "i don't like teamwork and disapprove of rr" ... [ 2009.08.26 01:46:53 ] Psyflame > af don't tackle fast.I have cruisers that tackle faster than af, do more dps, and tank better. ... Goes on for like another hour. -------- [ 2009.08.26 02:49:20 ] Psyflame > are there any fleets that don't consist of stealth bombers and tackle interceptors [ 2009.08.26 02:49:22 ] Psyflame > if so, x
Out of context quotes ftw. Don't include what was said before the statement, just take little snippets that you think support your case.
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Psyflame on 01/09/2009 16:48:14 Man, so much stuff out of context, where to start?
The NH guy maybe. We had a guy trying to join fleet with a nighthawk. He posted the fit. HML and full recharge. SPR's and CDFP's, etc. Claims it does "over 2000 dps, not volley damage" We ask him to go get another ship (for obvious reasons) and chat devolves into him bragging about his amazing nighthawk. I stand by my statement that Vulture is superior (we had basi/scimi in gang and the link for rep time would have been nice) and honestly, NH is fairly useless in FW gangs.
The PSA. Some dude were going on and on and on about how amazing his enyo was. I type that up and copypasta it whenever it is warranted, which was the case. The text that follows it... heh. Well you can see quite clearly what's going on.
I don't know why he included the next part. Out of context again, but whatever. Some dude was saying that AF are superior tacklers and kept repeating it. 95% of Caldari FW is blobtastic gate fights. I have used a 3x sebo HIC several times in the past and yeah, it has superior scanres to the AF in fleet.
Ahh the next part. I see some x's in militia chat so I thought "why not" only targets that were active were a plexing gang of about 15 t1/t2 frigates. I could have some rifter fun or something. Get into fleet and what do I see? 1 ares, 1 raptor, 7 manticores. "we have enough tackle, you need to bring a stealthbomber"
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Ezevector
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Posted - 2009.09.01 18:46:00 -
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...It ain't me, if that's what you're all thinking. So far I've only laid down oceanic shockwaves of profanity and implications of mutually-consensual incest in four cases:
1. Gankers 2. Players who reply to the subject line and not the post 3. Players who think "WoW" is a valid counterargument for anything and everything 4. Similar examples of people who's IQ doesn't gain any digits when squared
Anyway, good luck to you and your squids, even if I am going to have to murder all of you at some point for daring to strike at our noble allies in the Gallente Federation.
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MaxxOmega
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Suukovesta I prefer to fly with a newb that has bad fittings but actually fights when required, instead of a coward with the right fitting, who isn't there when you need him.
That would be me. I would be there to support you, I want to have fun not just worry about kills. If I can help others get on the killboard by using my jamming skills, I'm all for it...
Quote: Militia is about fun pvp, you didn't pay a single isk for someones ship so it's none of your business what they fly.
Exactly, everyting I look at a thread asking for help for a fitting most of the replies are a "fly something else" response. When looking for fits for my Tengu all I heard was fly a ****ing Drake...
I tried to join the Militia last night but sadly my standing isn't high enough. Maybe later I can join up...
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MaxxOmega
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan Edited by: Ulstan on 31/08/2009 21:17:16 I would suggest that if reading something someone writes always makes you mad, stop reading it.
Learning how to deal with personalities that clash violently with yours is an important skill in MMO's.
I'd also suggest that many members of the caldari militia could definitely use some fitting advice.
Not only do I welcome fitting advice, most of the time I need it. I'm not proud I know when I don't know...
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.03 02:36:00 -
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Megathron is not totally useless. It's bad, but it hasn't gotten to that point - yet. Just because neutrons + antimatter range make baby jesus cry doesn't mean the ship is useless. --- I smack just for myself.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:42:00 -
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hehe, nice chatlogs. ROFL FW full of nerds with big big e-peens i think.
Good Read
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.09.03 15:58:00 -
[76]
Nerds with big egos in my EVE?
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GavinGoodrich
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:23:00 -
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Could always just ignore the guy.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Chat logs
He's right about AFs though. They die to T1 cruisers and have no real role in gang.
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Suukovesta
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Posted - 2009.09.05 04:52:00 -
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Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE. Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy. This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia. I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
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Corewin
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.09.05 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Suukovesta Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE. Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy. This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia. I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
Umm... Psy does not ruin morale dude. Sure he may make people sad pandas when he turns their idea of "PVP" upside down, but for the most part its of a "tough love" educating nature. Caldari Militia has always had a fair share of hostility within its ranks, and that is purely out of a difference of opinion on several levels, something you cannot avoid in a large organization.
Psy speaks the truth on matters of PVP, versions of ship types can be argued on a personal level I suppose, but when information is coming from external sources rather than just himself its really not that hard to understand. He is simply telling it as it is, suck it up and deal with it.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.09.05 06:45:00 -
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I've certainly had my share of arguments with Psyflame and his corporation. Their main issue seems to be that a) I fly a caracal (aka crap n00b ship) b) fight inside plexes c) use it's said reputation to bait people.
This is somehow not proper way of fighting in FW so for example, above fight (which also had ishkur that escaped on structure mind you) simply got of flak because it was not a "proper fight", whatever that is supposed to mean. However, to OP, block button has been invented.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Psyflame
Overview Glitch
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Posted - 2009.09.07 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Psyflame on 07/09/2009 22:07:51
Originally by: Suukovesta Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE. Before Psiflame started to poison the chat channel, there was a feeling of togetherness within militia, they were one force and solid against the enemy. This is not the case anymore. Nowadays the militia is characterised by distrust, quarrels, anger and bitterness. I recently talked to someone who has excellent Minmatar skills and usually uses T2 large projectile guns. But instead he brings Amarr ships, because he doesn't want to argue with Psiflame, as Psiflame claims that all Minmatar ships are garbage and as the words of Psiflame are law within militia. I think this Psiflame did more damage to Caldari by undermining of military moral than any of the pirate corporations.
All matar ships are garbage? lolwut? scimitar? muninn? broadsword? claw? cane? vaga? rupture? claymore? phoon?
I love how you throw out blatant lies in an attempt to push your personal agenda
Originally by: Damar Rocarion e-peen waving, something about killing newbies in frigs
My opinion on assault frigates has already been stated in this thread. You must excuse me if I don't fall down in awe when an AF dies to a T1 cruiser (kind of like I have been saying for years) I stand by my statement that caracals are not welcome in our RR BS / Guardian fleets. Caracal is great if you want to solo some trial accounts in frigs. It is not great for our rr gangs.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:59:00 -
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Funny how Psy keeps making sense.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2009.09.08 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Suukovesta Military Experts are calling this UNDERMINING OF MILITARY MORALE.
We don't have any military experts in the caldari militia.
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p1ccard
The Happy Spacemen
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Posted - 2009.09.09 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: p1ccard on 09/09/2009 00:05:15 Having been in caldari militia on two seperate occasions I can safely say that the only reason effeciency has notdropped below 30% is [people not posting losses] several select corps (GL2U and Close Combat to name a couple). Militia as a general rule is regarded by the majority of the PVP community as "Failcakes". I invite any militia corp that thinks they're "the sh*t" to dec me and prove their worth.
and mr. alt, grow some male genitalia and troll psyflame like a man-child.
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Lola Fang
Space Assassination Service
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Psyflame
I think Mr X should be kicked out of the militia because he is obviously too mean to the WoW players.
Motion Passed ---------------- "You lost your eye to a seagull dropping?," "Well," said the pirate, "it was my first day with my hook"
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Lenartowicz
Caldari Hive Bound Technologies Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.09 13:35:00 -
[87]
yawn tl;dr
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.09.09 15:21:00 -
[88]
If you don't all shut up we will come back and you can argue about how to get out of high sec again.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.09.09 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Peeping on 09/09/2009 16:05:07 [ 2009.08.26 01:40:27 ] Psyflame > af have even less reason to be in a fleet.They lock slower than interceptor, can't speedtank, cant local tank, can't rr, don't have any ehp, and cost way too much
Holy Heck... up until some of these quotes, you guys tossed out, I figured he was probably good for you. I got nothing to say about "How" he says stuff, I'm sure you've got a valid complaint there, but now he's sorta proving that he's not all that experienced after all.
That (among other tidbits) has historically been true, but is not true any longer. Looks like another know it all who can't keep up with the changing nature of eve.
Edit... I see his post about out of context quotes. Fair enough... still, I'd be careful about saying stuff that's not true, regardless of the context. Depending on the circs, AF can have a valuable place in fleets, and what's with the can't speed tank line? It's not really all that hard to ST in an AF. What gives there?
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weebil
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:23:00 -
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personally I think there has to be a bit of come an go. An FC can't scan every ship in fleet for noob fittings, a couple of which could lead to him overestimating the capabilities of the whole fleet and losing it.
On the other hand that's probably no excuse to rant and rave at individuals for ages in militia chat. The guys there are eager to fight and learn pvp. A long rant will probably see them return to high sec safety never to return to pvp...if not quit the game completely.
A shipfitting forum would help the newer members fit properly, directing people there instead of ranting away in chat would be much more useful and not lose moral and members. Most ships in eve have some type of place, and its on the FC to learn how to use them to his best advantage.
He'd also have to have a fair idea of the capabilities of the gang, and take that into account with calculations. Either that or learn to politely say no. If someone tries to x up in an AF for a RR battleship gang, its best just to inform them politely that they can either reship, leave fleet or come along and help tackle, but if they are attacked then the rest of the gang can't do anything to help them, so its at their own risk.
A little bit diplomacy and common sense gets people much further and much more respect than a tantrum.
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