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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:35:00 -
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Second pvp video. Been done for a week but i've been having a lot of trouble with my encoder. Really glad to finally have it up. I hope you guys enjoy it. Its entirely solo cyclone action, except for one fight where corp mate and I are in BSs. 100% minmatar... similar to my first... which id also linked if you missed it and have interest.
Force of Nature 2 Force of Nature |
Endless Subversion
Annihilate. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:36:00 -
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DOWNLOADING!!!!
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Osiris Occido
R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:48:00 -
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gettin it!
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Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:49:00 -
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Down of the loading
Garmonation 7 - A pure pvp movie |
Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:39:00 -
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Some really good fights and the last clip was really awesome.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:11:00 -
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Just how did you encode it ?
VLC tells me i need to upgrade and MPlayer refuses outright to play it.
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Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:37:00 -
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That wasn't just good, that was ****ing amazing, excellent job!
Don't give up what you're doing, keep at it
Music still didn't agree with me though
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Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:37:00 -
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downloading
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Soft Alan
Vale Tudo. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:40:00 -
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Possibly the best Cyclone video ever. The last fight is one of the best of the year, just fantastic!
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Wensley
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:02:00 -
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Wow, I loved it. That was brilliant, thanks. Like others have said the fight with the Broadswords was brilliant. I love the way you kept staying for one more kill. Must... fly... Cyclone...
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:22:00 -
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WoW ... just wow. Without a doubt one of the best vids to come up lately, and that's saying a lot, considering the competition - Garmon's vid/Flix's vid/Rawr Cristinna's vid, and the fact that the editing is not that great. :) The heat managemant was awesome.
PS: You didn't have Crystals on, did you ?
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Ashley Judd
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:17:00 -
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Even better than expected. Who is that masked geddon pilot?
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:59:00 -
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That was some fine piloting my friend. Great video.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.25 08:49:00 -
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Very good fights. Well done m8.
Originally by: RedSplat The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Dannerkongen
1st Recon
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Posted - 2009.08.25 09:54:00 -
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yay for nice eve vids :)
first one was good too but i forgot to post
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Landrassa
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:30:00 -
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Thank you for providing yet another club I can use in my collection of "pvp is about more than just skillpoints and numbers" arsenal of cluebats Awesome vid! --------------------------------------------------- Recruitment thread |
Jarek Konecnik
Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:30:00 -
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the last fight was ****ing ace!
great vid!
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Violatohr on 25/08/2009 13:59:03 Wow guys thanks for all the positive feedback. Great to see after getting blobbed and permajammed so frequently, makes it all worth it! :)
I hope Muad' Dib got it working. I encoded it with adobe encoder... its just a regular *.wmv file as far as i can tell. Force of Nature 2 |
Babanu
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:51:00 -
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VERY good stuff my friend. Don't let the blobtards get you down, footage like this makes it all worthwhile <3
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Grann Thefauto
Spook Division BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Grann Thefauto on 25/08/2009 17:11:26 Great video man! As a chinese friend of mine would say "YOU CRAZY MAING!"
MKV 247MB
Edit: I fail at linking
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fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:45:00 -
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Everyone should watch this video
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Phelan Boots
Queens of the Stone Age Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.25 22:30:00 -
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wow, those are some ace fights right there.
Quote: info It's not a good idea to place an Exotic Dancer in a Giant Secure Container. The Exotic Dancer will not survive intact, if transported in such a container.
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Cerui Tarshiel
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.25 22:35:00 -
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Woot, another force of nature \o/ downloading noaw.
P.s. did you manage to find use for that domi lsb?
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FU22
The Furry Toast
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:29:00 -
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Very good video, much enjoyed and that last fight had me on the edge of my chair
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Kil2
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:59:00 -
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put me down with everyone else in support.
great engagements. awesome ship choice, anytime matar is putting on a show i think the community is going to be excited.
one question i had - when fighting the astarte, do you not think its worth it to try and get into falloff and abuse astarte range? obviously cyclone can handle point-blank but i always think of matar as having a range and speed advantage to exploit against gallente.
anyway keep it up, really cool to watch.
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2Bad4Ux2
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:53:00 -
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Awesome, wish it were longer tbh. Thinking the same thing kil2 was vs astarte thought you were crazy sitting at 500 meters, i always take advantage of sucky range of blasters. ------- LTI(new) 9Lives UTS! WB2A!
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Endless Subversion
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Endless Subversion on 26/08/2009 12:12:26
Originally by: Kil2
one question i had - when fighting the astarte, do you not think its worth it to try and get into falloff and abuse astarte range? obviously cyclone can handle point-blank but i always think of matar as having a range and speed advantage to exploit against gallente.
Cyclone/Astarte Numbers RF EMP = 1.5+10 Barrage = 3+15 GN Antimatter = 2.3+9.4 Null = 5.6 + 12
My guess is he was trying to get max dmg by being close so that his dps+sentries would bring the Astarte down as quickly as possible.
Plus the cyclone really doesn't have a range advantage on the astarte (see above) and V's cyclone just has a scram, no point, so to prevent them running he needs to be around 9km or closer.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Violatohr on 26/08/2009 13:21:20 I figured hed wait to flag to when he got to zero and then would scram + web me, making pulling distance hard. He did that plus he had an AB (which i didnt know). So i loaded up hail hoping that my dmg plus sentries would overpower what i assumed was an active rep. Definitely a downside of the cyclone that i only have one slot for tackle to keep any semblance of a shield tank, i am forced to use a scram to hold things close, so i am never really able to engage outside of 9km.
Thanks for the comments, appreciate the input
I also wish it was longer :(, I tried for a solid week to get one more decent fight in a BC and mainly just got lots of massive local flares. Also essentially all of accursed either left or went inactive during this time, so to keep my eve sanity i put the movie out. What length of movie is a good length? I think both of mine have been around 15 mins. Force of Nature 2 |
Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Resdayn on 26/08/2009 13:38:56 The main reason people want it to be longer was because it was so good
30-40 minutes of it would of been cool, but if it's hard to find fights for you which is pretty understandable these days then 15 is cool too
Also an advice, I really suggest you go to CVA low sec for a shot some time to try to fight their pets under sentrys, you might get an epic fight
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Apollo Balthar
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Apollo Balthar on 26/08/2009 16:56:03 wauw great video man. keep it going
could you put a tracklist down here? liked the music a lot
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Kil2
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:36:00 -
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ah yes your scram obviously makes range impossible, i didnt think of that.
usually with sentries on my site though i think kite MORE not less. if you have sentry dps you dont have to have much of your own if you can get outside range. also does anyone actually use/bring null?
anyway scram means it makes no difference. again great fights. if theres strats to analyze im having fun watching =D
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Aekrhe
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Aekrhe on 27/08/2009 18:57:10 Naaoo! Naaaoouu! Stop revealing to everyone that the cyclone is a good ship, now people won't fight me anymore XD. Duct tape! Scrap and duct tape! Amarr are overpowered, boost minmatar!
Awesome video and fights, keep it up!
Edit: Fail post, main is Kuentai
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Nogomojo
1st Recon
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:25:00 -
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i want a collectors edition
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Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.08.28 01:53:00 -
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Definitely in my top pvp videos ever man, in terms of content. The last fight was amazing, really impressive how you manipulate and win.
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adriaans
Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:11:00 -
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that was great use of the cyclone!
do you use crystal implants? -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze crystals for Amarr!
Originally by: UMEE if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
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Xandi Crews
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Posted - 2009.08.28 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kovorix Definitely in my top pvp videos ever man, in terms of content. The last fight was amazing, really impressive how you manipulate and win.
Word, anybody here looking to make a pvp video of your own: This is how it's done.
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Elise Randolph
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 06:16:00 -
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Respek for Cyclone enthusiasts. Last fight was fantastic. ----------
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Cmndr Griff
Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.29 11:08:00 -
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I can see why people complain about it only being 15 minutes. Being a fan of the Cyclone aside, this is an awesome video. That last fight was sweet. Shame you don't see their reactions.
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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2009.08.29 11:23:00 -
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dl
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Per Ole
Anonymous Alcoholics Wrath.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 18:57:00 -
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Inspiring... so inspiring. Very good work, mate. Very good fighting, you got madzz skillzzzz -------------------------------- Screw you guys, I'm going home |
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.08.29 23:45:00 -
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Awesome guys. I never thought the community would be this happy with it. You all make me wish i was a better editor to give you a more high quality visual product , with fancy zoom ins and transitions and things. Definitely got my interest back in the game, cheers. Force of Nature 2 |
Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.30 00:26:00 -
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I'd still like to know if you had LG or HG crystals. :) --- I smack just for myself.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.08.30 17:02:00 -
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I have LGs in, sry for the delay. Force of Nature 2 |
Emeril Lurch
Blood Money Bootcamp The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.30 20:20:00 -
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Solid solid work. I know it's been said, personally I would have taken advantage of the Astarte's range, but good job nonetheless.
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Resdayn
Amarr Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.31 19:00:00 -
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bump because this deserves to be on 1st page
Garmonation 7 - A pure pvp movie |
Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.09.01 22:02:00 -
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Really enjoyed this, mate. I like it when vid-makers include some losses. Absolutely loved the final fight on gate. _____________________________
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Flinx Evenstar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.01 23:01:00 -
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Very sexy. The cyclone is an underestimated beast, in your hands, it shined.
Very cool head under pressure as well, nice flying. Enjoyed that a lot. --- I spent 3 months in Delve, and all I got was a lousy Shrike mail
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:12:00 -
[48]
Nice one! Really good piloting skillz!
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gpfault
Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Violatohr Awesome guys. I never thought the community would be this happy with it. You all make me wish i was a better editor to give you a more high quality visual product with fancy zoom ins and transitions and things.
Honestly, when you have footage of that quality the editing really dosn't matter.
Quote: Definitely got my interest back in the game, cheers.
Excellent, we'll be seeing more from you then?
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Prozacxx
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:43:00 -
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Awesome fights > Editing.
Good stuff!
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sp3cial forc3s
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.09.04 11:34:00 -
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Watched this a few times now, absolutely love it. saving for a cyclone now.
ashley and endless smell...
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Mopsy Six
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Posted - 2009.09.04 16:28:00 -
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Very impressive skills!
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FatFreddy
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Posted - 2009.09.05 01:24:00 -
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Very good stuff indeed.
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Elektrea
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:48:00 -
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brb buying cyclones. ----------
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AtheistOfDoom
Amarr The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.05 05:30:00 -
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Epic fights to say the least! I think this one is even better than the first
Originally by: Chribba
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Nova Satar
UK1 Zero KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:21:00 -
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i touched myself and everybody in the room
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Saikron
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Posted - 2009.09.06 02:29:00 -
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Fancy zoom ins and effects would only disrespect the quality of the content in this case.
I'd be pleased to see more solo BC vids even half as good as this one. --------
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fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.09.06 16:59:00 -
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Bumping dis~
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Fon Revedhort
XMX Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.09.06 21:31:00 -
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Very good, man. Awesome work %)
The very last fight with all the tactics envolved was especially great. One of the best single fights I've personally seen the last year.
Your .mkv version got those crappy black borders, that's the most major flaw I can point out ---[center] Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Stubnitz
Exiled. Xenogenesis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:42:00 -
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Honestly one of the best pvp vids i have ever watched, ****ing awesome
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: gpfault
Excellent, we'll be seeing more from you then?
Yah ive been pretty active over last couple weeks. Corp seems to have essentially given up, but endless subversion and ashley judd are around, so im getting some decent small gang fights.
Appreciate eve mails and bumps.
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DreamingInDigital
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Posted - 2009.09.11 17:06:00 -
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cyclone 4tw
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kessah
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.12 16:26:00 -
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Man that last fight was sick.
Cyclones not for me, but its really well flown. Hate capping out all the time. Damn shield tanking.
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Xikorita
Mob Thought
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Posted - 2009.09.12 16:38:00 -
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very very very nice video. Moar ;D
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KaiH
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.09.14 12:43:00 -
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This is really really good. I say this as a matter of fact.
Great music too, for the most part.
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fmercury
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.09.16 04:18:00 -
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What are your thoughts on large vs. x-large boosters on the cyclone
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Holy Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:32:00 -
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Excellent video mate!
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Goo Spew
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Posted - 2009.09.16 11:44:00 -
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amazing stuff with a fantastic ship o/\o
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Comrade Bliss
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.16 19:30:00 -
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I love the cyclone but the "average" cyclone appearance in pvp videos is a poor noob in lowsec ratting or mineing with the beauty, getting ****d. That's why i love your videos the last was really good and this one were even better keep up the good work Life is a grave...Dig it... |
Psiri
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Posted - 2009.09.17 22:06:00 -
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Sorry, not that thrilled tbh. Implants and a pill will make any shield bonused ship fearsome and there were few hostile ships on your grids that could take advantage of your fits obvious weaknesses.
The music just felt cheesy for most part, mweh, like I said, I wasn't that thrilled.
On the flip side I found the video capture to be great and the fights themselves weren't onesided enough to make it a boring watch.
Sorry if I seem overly negative, it's really a good video it's just that I quite can't resonate with all of the positive feedback I'm seing in this thread.
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MellaRinn
Gallente Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.17 22:57:00 -
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absolutely awesome video! great watch!
✖Veto Corp. Officer✖ Click the sig 4 my vids |
Adamantium Beams
Section XIII Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.17 23:29:00 -
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dl'ing
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.18 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: fmercury What are your thoughts on large vs. x-large boosters on the cyclone
More dmg on large booster, also much more cap stable. Dont have to worry about toggling ur booster on and off while trying to run mwd and scram and cap booster. Less micro management. Very susceptible to neuts. Low peak tank.
X-l booster. Less dmg (~60 less). Less tech 2 ammo, which can somewhat limit you in certain situations (i downgrade my missile launchers because my projectiles are much better). More micro management, very easy to cap urself out if ur not careful. Harder to overload because ur turning the shield booster on and off. More neut resistant as u can use ur cap quickly, converting it very fast to shield.
Overall i like the large fit if im 100% solo because the extra 60 dps will help when dealing with active tanks, the quicker you get something down the more manageable the incoming fire can become. And I find it a lot of micro management with the x-l which can be painful, and dangerous to capping out and losing MWD. For example the first time i ran the x-l, i managed to escape a mega gank, then get retackled because i had capped myself out running the xl . You can get good peak numbers with the x-l if u dont have to do it for long.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.18 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri Edited by: Psiri on 18/09/2009 00:02:36 Sorry, not that thrilled tbh. Implants and a pill will make any shield bonused ship fearsome and there were few hostile ships on your grid that could take advantage of your fit's obvious weaknesses.
The music just felt cheesy for most part, mweh, like I said, I wasn't that thrilled.
On the flip side I found the video capture to be great and the fights themselves weren't onesided enough to make it a boring watch.
Sorry if I seem overly negative, it's really a good video it's just that I quite can't resonate with all of the positive feedback I'm seing in this thread.
Sry you didnt like it. Thanks for the input though. Run some of the numbers on the fit though, it may not be as 'fearsome' as you think. Remember that many other pilots in low sec are also using implants and pills making my advantage less. If you're doing anything outnumbered or outgunned it is important to squeeze as much as you can out of your ship.
As for no ships being on grid obviously exploiting my ships weaknesses, this takes time, and preparation this is not normally by blind chance (though that helps tremendously). If my ship is specifically vulnerable to a certain type of ship i am going to do everything in my power to make that ship's life difficult in exploiting my weakness, or delay its arrival or impact as long as possible while i attempt to deal with the rest of the gang. If that means moving gangs around for poor warp in spots for that support to add in or delaying engagements until certain ships are separated enough to have a chance, then ill try to do that. If a ship exploited my specific weaknesses then i would be foolish to let it engage me on its terms.
Anyways appreciate the post.
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Endless Subversion
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.18 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Endless Subversion on 18/09/2009 14:03:55 Edited by: Endless Subversion on 18/09/2009 14:03:39
Originally by: Psiri
Sorry, not that thrilled tbh. Implants and a pill will make any shield bonused ship fearsome and there were few hostile ships on your grid that could take advantage of your fit's obvious weaknesses.
Confirming! When I'm in a gang of Navy Mega, Scorp, Hurricane, Drake, Sac, 2x Broadsword, Omen , we also find lg-crystal'd, pilled cyclones lauaghable unkillable.
It is, at best, mediocre play on the cyclone's part if anyone is able to get away. There is nearly no way our gang could take advantage of and/or defeat him! And picking on red-blinkies too! Why doesn't he put away that over-used, overpowered minmatar t1 bc and go fight a gang who is accustomed to pvp!
Quote: On the flip side I found the video capture to be great and the fights themselves weren't onesided enough to make it a boring watch.
Here I think you give too much credit. No where in this video does Violatohr defeat enemy gangs with proper carrier logistic support, nor does he capture or hold territory in his cyclone. Perhaps next time if he were able to storm a properly set up cyno-jammed sov 4 system and hold the field and/or capture delve this would be watchable.
Quote: I can't quite resonate with all of the positive feedback I'm seing in this thread.
I know, right? Why anyone would post positive feedback in such a thread? He pilots like a stupid carebear. Always MWDing away from fights and picking on the small, weak battlecruisers and HICs in his big, bad cyclone. Why doesn't he man up and toe-to-toe some battleships? He had a perfect opportunity with that navy mega and scorpion and he just RUNS AWAY! And people think that's good!??
Also, since I feel Psiri and I have spent enough time complimenting this overly liked, not-quite-boring fights video I feel I deserve the right to advance my own goals too.
Elite Pirate Corp Sound Off! Hoo-ah!
Obviously Psiri and I are alts, but if any of you big 0.0 NBSI alliances with great ratting space are looking for a 4-5 man pirate corp with some REAL pvpers, who bring small gang and solo work to a new level contact Psiri or Endless Subversion and, if we grow a pair (and can find them) we'll contact you on our mains(the ones who do the pvping instead of the talking) and then the **** can hit the fan!
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kessah
Anonymous Alcoholics Wrath.
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Posted - 2009.09.18 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Endless Subversion Edited by: Endless Subversion on 18/09/2009 14:13:39
Originally by: Psiri
Sorry, not that thrilled tbh. Implants and a pill will make any shield bonused ship fearsome and there were few hostile ships on your grid that could take advantage of your fit's obvious weaknesses.
Confirming! When I'm in a gang of Navy Mega, Scorp, Hurricane, Drake, Sac, 2x Broadsword, Omen , we also find lg-crystal'd, pilled cyclones laughable unkillable.
It is, at best, mediocre play on the cyclone's part if anyone is able to get away. There is nearly no way our gang could take advantage of and/or defeat him! And picking on red-blinkies too! Why doesn't he put away that over-used, overpowered minmatar t1 bc and go fight a gang who is accustomed to pvp!
Quote: On the flip side I found the video capture to be great and the fights themselves weren't onesided enough to make it a boring watch.
Here I think you give too much credit. No where in this video does Violatohr defeat enemy gangs with proper carrier logistic support, nor does he capture or hold territory in his cyclone. Perhaps next time if he were able to storm a properly set up cyno-jammed sov 4 system and hold the field and/or capture delve this would be watchable.
Quote: I can't quite resonate with all of the positive feedback I'm seing in this thread.
I know, right? Why anyone would post positive feedback in such a thread? He pilots like a stupid carebear. Always MWDing away from fights and picking on the small, weak battlecruisers and HICs in his big, bad cyclone. Why doesn't he man up and toe-to-toe some battleships? He had a perfect opportunity with that navy mega and scorpion and he just RUNS AWAY! And people think that's good!??
Also, since I feel Psiri and I have spent enough time complimenting this overly liked, not-quite-boring fights video I feel I deserve the right to advance my own goals too.
Elite Pirate Corp Sound Off! Hoo-ah!
Obviously Psiri and I are alts, but if any of you big 0.0 NBSI alliances with great ratting space are looking for a 4-5 man pirate corp with some REAL pvpers, who bring small gang and solo work to a new level contact Psiri or Endless Subversion and, if we grow a pair (and can find them) we'll contact you on our mains(the ones who do the pvping instead of the talking) and then the **** can hit the fan!
omg LMFAO SHUT DOWN!
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.09.19 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Psiri on 19/09/2009 00:17:16 GahrghlÖ, EVE forums are a pain, reply is coming soonÖ
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.09.19 01:16:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Violatohr
Sry you didnt like it. Thanks for the input though. Run some of the numbers on the fit though, it may not be as 'fearsome' as you think. Remember that many other pilots in low sec are also using implants and pills making my advantage less. If you're doing anything outnumbered or outgunned it is important to squeeze as much as you can out of your ship.
As for no ships being on grid obviously exploiting my ships weaknesses, this takes time, and preparation this is not normally by blind chance (though that helps tremendously). If my ship is specifically vulnerable to a certain type of ship i am going to do everything in my power to make that ship's life difficult in exploiting my weakness, or delay its arrival or impact as long as possible while i attempt to deal with the rest of the gang. If that means moving gangs around for poor warp in spots for that support to add in or delaying engagements until certain ships are separated enough to have a chance, then ill try to do that. If a ship exploited my specific weaknesses then i would be foolish to let it engage me on its terms.
Anyways appreciate the post.
I didn't like it that much, that's all, it's still a good video and (obviously) some people are nuts about it so that'd if anything tell you it's a job well done. You can't please everyone afterall.
As for the Cyclone, no it won't become an unstoppable monster just because of an LG set and a pill but any cookie points awarded for it being a mere tier 1 BC are lost. It's important not to forget the underestimation factor either, which for a Cyclone already is quite significant.
Either way, if you so had done it all in a HAC it still would have been an impressive display. As for the lack of problematic targets on grid if anything just shows that you're able to pick favourable fights and know what to expect from your opposition.
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Neriel Odershank
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Posted - 2009.09.19 11:30:00 -
[79]
Where can you find all these noob? -.-
Nice video btw ;) |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War Banzai Boyz
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Posted - 2009.09.19 13:00:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Psiri
What I'm saying however is that there weren't much on the field that could properly capitialize on his ship's weaknesses, as such I found the outcomes of each individual encounter to for most part be not all that surprising.
Oh, come on. How would you expect a vid to contain clips where author's weaknesses indeed got exploited? Those usually make encouters greatly one sided, and cases where any given ship is able to overcome those counter-ships are rare as a million lotto win.
I've heard the same stuff on my last vid as well - they told 'he's just fighting noobs, bla-bla' or 'one heavy neut and you're screwed!'. But what are they trying to actually prove? The fact there are no invincible ships or that every ship will die to a proper blobbing? Wow, hot news!
The cyclone is a very vulnerable ship, like most others. It takes just rapier/arazu combo to completely shut it down and chew it slowly. And the fact the author has stayed clear out of these comboes just shows his skill/luck and nothing else really.
Finding proper targets to shoot is a huge chunk of a player's skill, too.
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Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.19 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri
- Sorry, not that thrilled tbh.
- The music just felt cheesy for most part, meh, like I said, I wasn't that thrilled.
- ...the fights themselves weren't onesided enough to make it a boring watch.
- I didn't like it that much, that's all...
- Either way, if you so had done it all in a HAC it still would have been an impressive display.
- ...just that I never found it to be that good
No matter how you try to twist it, these aren't compliments. Try telling your girlfriend on of these:
- The sex wasn't bad, I just didn't like it all that much, that's all.
- Either way, if you had done it all wearing the black panties it'd have been an impressive display
- ...I never found it [the sex] to be that good
Paraphrased becomes, "Although that wasn't awful, it should have been better" which clearly isn't positive feedback.
However, you're entitled to your opinions. His music choices didn't suit you. You didn't care for his editing skills, camera work, overview setup, whatever. Those are all reasonable things to point out, they are criticisms with a basis in reality. They're actual places where there is room for improvement (or personal taste).
What your comments show is one of two things (on reflection, I suppose it could be both), and I'd appreciate you letting me know which it is. Either you're an idiot, or you're ignorant. Let's explore!
Quote:
- However I was really referring to each individual pew-pew, in what often was a long chain of events.
- That was never the point I was trying to convey but rather that a Cyclone with a LG set and pill is far from the underdog ship that one normally percieves the Cyclone as.
- It's a bit like watching a faction fit ship tear apart ship after ship, even if it's against overwhelming odds
- What I'm saying however is that there weren't much on the field that could properly capitalize on his ship's weaknesses, as such I found the outcomes of each individual encounter to for most part be not all that surprising.
- To sum it up, while it's impressive and the guy must be bat**** insane... my fingernails remained quite intact.
- Either way, if you so had done it all in a HAC it still would have been an impressive display
1) You believe by splitting an enemy gang up and engaging it piecemeal the fight is less, rather than more, impressive. 2) You believe that a no-pill, no-crystal cyclone's tank (272 dps) is an underdog, but that a pill+lg crystal cyclone tank (412dps) is a "far cry from an underdog". 3) You believe that adding 140dps tanked to a cyclone is roughly similar to watching faction, deadspace or officer fit BS tanks.
4) You believe that shield canes, HML drakes, HICs and cruisers are unable to capitalize on a cyclone's weaknesses with heavy backup close by.
5) The outcome of a cyclone (tourny value 11) versus 2x Bs, 2x Bc, 2x HIC, 1x Hac, 1x Cruiser (approx 115) was unexciting to you. 6) You believe defeating odds in a cyclone is less impressive than defeating odds in a HAC.
Your comments imply you think great PvP is engaging pilots outnumbered 8:1, where they have equal piloting skill, ship setups, implants, training skills and boosters and doing it without splitting them up and at 0km.
So which is it? Do you just not get the piloting, planning, fitting required to do this or do you honestly think the result just isn't impressive?
Quote: yes I've been considering settin up a corp consisting of less experienced IRL mates, seems I forgot how that somehow invalidates any subjective opinions and feedback that I may have about this video
Where to start? Less-experienced IRL mates? You leading something? The fact that the video is about 2-10 man pirate gangs getting stomped? The fact you specify good ratting space? The implication that someone should want you in their alliance?
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.09.20 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Psiri on 20/09/2009 00:15:17
Quote: Paraphrased becomes, "Although that wasn't bad, it could have been better" which clearly isn't positive feedback.
Fixed that for you. Also, this guy isn't my girlfriend and even if he was *blush* I'd still be straight (uhm.. okay maybe not straight) with him.
Either way, unlike you he seems to take it with some cool.
Quote: Let's explore!
Oh lets do.
Quote: 1) You believe by splitting an enemy gang up and engaging it piecemeal the fight is less, rather than more, impressive.
No, once again you just make poor assumptions. If he hadn't attempted to split up the HIC gatecamp gang he'd obviously have been instantly toast and how much fun is that? However that doesn't change that I thought several of the encounters to be a little bit static and predictable.
Quote: 2) You believe that a no-pill, no-crystal cyclone's tank (272 dps) is an underdog, but that a pill+lg crystal cyclone tank (412dps) is a "far cry from an underdog"
Don't use quotes when you're not actually quoting anyone.
Yes, the Cyclone using a LG set and and pill becomes IMO on par with more highly thought of ships like the cane. I'd wager that the vast majority of the people in these clips vastly underrated his Cyclone, a ship which even normally tends to be underrated (much like the Ferox).
Quote: 3) You believe that adding 140dps tanked to a cyclone is roughly similar to watching faction, deadspace or officer fit BS tanks.
It actually ammounts to a fair bit more once you overheat, but yes it makes the ship into something that the vanilla Cyclone quite isn't and hence takes away some of the magic, in the way that faction items can too. As for wether or not they're comparable or not depends on which specific modules and their quantity. Unlike this Cane however you'd know that a faction fit ship would be an expensive loss, which makes things a little more exciting.
Quote: 4) You believe that shield canes, HML drakes, HICs and cruisers are unable to capitalize on a cyclone's weaknesses with heavy backup close by.
Yes I believe that these ships can't exploit his ship's lack of web and neuts in the same way that say, an AF or say, a 'ranis could.
Don't get this confused however with these ships' ability to just plain tackle and beat him. Good piloting, excellent timing and some luck kept this from happening however.
Quote: 5) The outcome of a cyclone (tourny value 11) versus 2x Bs, 2x Bc, 2x HIC, 1x Hac, 1x Cruiser (approx 115) was unexciting to you.
Mmyup, just didn't feel that captivating. It's very impressive but didn't IMO make for that great of a watch, for whatever reason.
Quote: 6) You believe defeating odds in a cyclone is less impressive than defeating odds in a HAC.
Once again I never said that, it's just you trying to project things onto me once again and quite frankly it's getting a whee bit tiresome. I said that even if he had been piloting a HAC it'd still have been very impressive.
Quote: Your comments imply you think great PvP is engaging pilots outnumbered 8:1
It's all in your head, honey.
Quote: So which is it? Do you just not get the piloting, planning, fitting required to do this or do you honestly think the result just isn't impressive?
I think Usain Bolt's records are impressive, I'm not entertained by watching him run.
Quote: Where to start? Less-experienced IRL mates? You leading something? The fact that the video is about 2-10 man pirate gangs getting stomped? The fact you specify good ratting space? The implication that someone should want you in their alliance?
What relevance is there to any of this? As for ratting space it's just for them to have means to sustain themselves as they probably won't be able to from PvP activities alone, especially as they currently favor killmails to ransoms.
- Oh, running out of characters and care.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.20 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri wow you're quite the zealous fanboi arn't you?
Endless is the best pilot i have ever flown with and by far the best eve pilot that i know. He is also a major part of the accursed, the banner that i fly under. Understand that a lot of work was put into the making of this movie and take from it whatever you want, i am trying to bring to you the best PvP that i have to offer. Im unbelievably happy that it was so well received, and thank everyone for helping me continue to play after all these years. If you do not like it plz do not spend hours of your time talking ****, i understand you dont like it, please can we move on. Force of Nature 2 |
AtheistOfDoom
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.20 02:12:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Psiri
So in order for the video to be good the cyclone needs to be badly skilled and have no advantages whatsoever? come on.
@ violatohr: you wouldn't happen to be making a 3rd video would you? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Yeyra
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Posted - 2009.09.20 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Yeyra on 20/09/2009 04:31:03 Awesome, but too short. Need a third video.
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.09.20 11:20:00 -
[86]
Originally by: AtheistOfDoom
Originally by: Psiri
So in order for the video to be good the cyclone needs to be badly skilled and have no advantages whatsoever? come on.
/facepalm
Originally by: Violatohr
Endless is the best pilot i have ever flown with and by far the best eve pilot that i know. He is also a major part of the accursed, the banner that i fly under. Understand that a lot of work was put into the making of this movie and take from it whatever you want, i am trying to bring to you the best PvP that i have to offer. Im unbelievably happy that it was so well received, and thank everyone for helping me continue to play after all these years. If you do not like it plz do not spend hours of your time talking ****, i understand you dont like it, please can we move on.
It was your buddy Endless that started this ordeal, I merely made a short but blunt input here and Endless decided to throw a tantrum over it. I believe I have every right to defend my views and reply to groundless accusations. However, I absolutely respect your wish for us to keep it out of this thread, a concern that you've only expressed just now.
Fly safe.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.09.20 12:18:00 -
[87]
Originally by: AtheistOfDoom
Originally by: Psiri
@ violatohr: you wouldn't happen to be making a 3rd video would you?
maybe Force of Nature 2 |
Killian Pirx
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 06:52:00 -
[88]
its nice to see that you're still tearing it up V, nice vid
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Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.23 10:46:00 -
[89]
There's a reason you're posting on an alt Psiri, please STFU, a lot of respected movie makers have given their opinion on this video, and they are all good, I'm just posting incase Violatohr is having second thoughts about how good his movie is, dont mate, this movie is awesome Sig removed, inappropriate content - Mitnal
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.09.23 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri Sorry if I seem overly negative, it's really a good video it's just that I quite can't resonate with all of the positive feedback I'm seing in this thread.
pleas to be linking to ur vids, aprecited bye _____________________________
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MinmatarCitizen2323
Minmatar Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.09.23 17:18:00 -
[91]
As a former UWAR pilot I am very proud for mentioning us in your awesome movie. It's good to see you're still in space and kicking.
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fmercury
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.09.24 20:44:00 -
[92]
If Psiri doesn't think this is good, I'd like to see what he considers to be good
Bump for a great video.
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Scarabrax
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.09.29 14:35:00 -
[93]
Sweet video of one of my favourite ships, flown well.
As the passing Pilgrim in the Astarte fight I'm sure it would have been a solo win for you without my interference, but a flashy CS on a low-sec gate was too much temptation for me to pass :P
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Arx Eladios
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.03 12:13:00 -
[94]
Awesome video. Loved every second of it, especially the last fight.
Only thing I want to ask: Why do you fit medium guns on your Typhoon? Don't you lose half the ship's bonuses? Is it for the times when you find targets too small for your torpedos?
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Klee Tarris
Amarr Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.10.03 15:08:00 -
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Great piloting, and fab movie !! Loved it :)
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AtheistOfDoom
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.10.04 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Arx Eladios Awesome video. Loved every second of it, especially the last fight.
Only thing I want to ask: Why do you fit medium guns on your Typhoon? Don't you lose half the ship's bonuses? Is it for the times when you find targets too small for your torpedos?
The phoon (like all tier 1 bs) has a hard time fitting everything you'd want it to.
PS: oops I sorta reported your post... I should pay attention more sorry :( ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:11:00 -
[97]
Stop slacking off. Get number 3 out already! There has been a serious lull in awesome pvp videos and I want my frapsed pew pew fix!!
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound
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Posted - 2009.10.11 09:23:00 -
[98]
That is indeed some awesome stuff right there! I wish I was ballsy enough to go out and do something like this ^^
Originally by: Cors 1vs1's are as close to PVP as a Boxing ring is to being jumped in an alley by 4 people with knives and baseball bats.
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Violatohr
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.10.12 18:34:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Violatohr on 12/10/2009 18:34:49 MC!!!
Originally by: MinmatarCitizen2323 Im the man.
MC
agreed... sux we never fly together anymore but i know ur more into the crazy fleet stuff anyways
Originally by: Scarabrax
As the passing Pilgrim in the Astarte fight I'm sure it would have been a solo win for you without my interference, but a flashy CS on a low-sec gate was too much temptation for me to pass :P
I still got that lewt from the astarte so i wasnt too upset, probably would have looked cooler .
Originally by: Arx Eladios
Only thing I want to ask: Why do you fit medium guns on your Typhoon? Don't you lose half the ship's bonuses? Is it for the times when you find targets too small for your torpedos?
Yah grid is a pain on the phoon. Also dmg from the guns is pretty low, low from the torps too cause of sig but i digress..
Originally by: Endless Subversion Stop slacking off. Get number 3 out already! There has been a serious lull in awesome pvp videos and I want my frapsed pew pew fix!!
The process is not going very smoothly and im at the stage where i hate all my fraps...
I also am drinking away all of my weekends these days, which is killing my eve time.
Edit: And thx for the bumps! Force of Nature 2 |
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