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Tamahra
Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch
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Posted - 2009.08.31 10:13:00 -
[361]
i personally dont find it annoying. i just klick my d-scan every 2 seconds now
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FT Cold
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.31 10:14:00 -
[362]
Also posting to let CCP know that scanning for hostiles in w-space to check for threats is officially bullsht. How do you say, "hey let's make them use the scanner 24/7 and take out local!" and then go right around fcking take the scanner out of the picture too? |
Frug
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.31 10:39:00 -
[363]
Originally by: FT Cold Also posting to let CCP know that scanning for hostiles in w-space to check for threats is officially bullsht. How do you say, "hey let's make them use the scanner 24/7 and take out local!" and then go right around fcking take the scanner out of the picture too?
Yeah, they are supposed to wait until they gave us a better scanning tool before talking about removing local from 0.0 or the rest of space. Forcing you to click a button every 2 seconds is lame and needs fixing. Still, wormholes are fun to play in. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Mira O'karr
Minmatar UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:35:00 -
[364]
we at least need to know that this is not the be all end all to intel gathering and scanning that requires actual skill and not skillbooks.
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Deathhawk
Hammersmith Hardmen Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.31 17:36:00 -
[365]
usually most changes dont bother me i just adapt and get on with it but this one is seriously ****ing annoying....
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Vim
Spook Division
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Posted - 2009.08.31 18:21:00 -
[366]
So. I jumpin, I hit 180 towards one end of solar, hit 180 towards other end. 1 second or so. Find anything, narrow down to 30, scan clusters, initiate warp to belt in cluster, if in cluster, scan 90, 60, 30, (5) warp. This took about 5-6 seconds and you had a slight chance of catching the occasional slow ratter. Thats 3 scansweeps nowdays. Thank you ccp, I better be realy lucky to even get the drop on stephen hawking before he manages to click his warp button.
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Bfoster
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 18:51:00 -
[367]
Posting to confirm this is one more reason I am starting to dislike this game.. Keep piling them up CCP, you will make my wife happy one day soon... ------------
My Killboard- The Python Cartel |
Vixx Vandenberg
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:56:00 -
[368]
GAAAH, this is getting more and more annoying the more I see that popup
Changing angles to narrow down a target takes waaayy to long now.
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Opertone
Caldari Monsters
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:48:00 -
[369]
the nasty message scanner recalibrating is annoying
Maybe the system scanner should auto-update on itself?
Is it a good idea to make the button unclickable for 2 seconds to get rid of the message?
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Dixi Zi
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:53:00 -
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I suppose that scanner was used not only to actually scan for something but to scan for incoming threats. How about we get an active autoupdated list of things around? I mean same info but only about ships, with some filters that is updated automatically. That will help with server load snice ppl will not mash buttons repeatevly.
Becasue current delay made it uncomfortable to use for actuall scanning. Like I change angle to 60, still see an object, change to 30 and blah "scanner recalibrating".
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Robdon
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:06:00 -
[371]
Its horrible to scan now :(
Also, the popup message stays on the screen for about 5 seconds, but you can rescan every 2 seconds.
This means that when you do the next scan, even though its > 2 seconds later, the old message is still there, so its hard to know if you got a new scan or not.
A successful scan should remove any 'old' message immediately.
Its really horrible to try to scan for POS's and locations now, as every time you change the angle you have to wait :(
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:15:00 -
[372]
this change is the greatest fail I ever saw CCP did.
remove that annoying fuk
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Opertone
Caldari Monsters
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:43:00 -
[373]
remove the annoying pop up
set button to be clickable every 1.5 sec, if not clickable it should be submerged
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Captain Vampire
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:10:00 -
[374]
This change is affecting too many aspects of the fundamental gameplay.
It changes the balance between the hunter, and the pray, a balance that has already been skewed in favor of the pray several times during the last couple of updates.
Local + delayed scan = God mode for prey Delayed scan alone = meh
the carebear is growing stronger in eve..
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Rachel Melach
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:08:00 -
[375]
Edited by: Rachel Melach on 01/09/2009 13:10:53 Not enough quality control was conducted on this change. The 2 second delay is bad enough; the new scan and subsequent 2 second delay upon angle change is bad enough; the error message staying on the screen for way too long is bad enough; taken together, the results are very annoying, impeding game play, and generating a sense of hopelessness while hunting in large systems.
edit to add the obligatory: change it or I leave, no you can't haz my stuffz, I have 15 accounts and all will go, my (alliance, corp, clan, guild) will all quit with me and you will lose 1 bajillion accts. oh and nerf amarr buff minmatards!
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:19:00 -
[376]
Is it possible the direction scanner was being macroed by some and actually causing serious performance hits on the server?
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:27:00 -
[377]
I am personally shocked that CCP would do something stupid like this.
Oh wait.
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Barashi Nugan
Gallente Zero Point Group
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:46:00 -
[378]
Edited by: Barashi Nugan on 01/09/2009 14:50:16
Originally by: Ana Vyr Is it possible the direction scanner was being macroed by some and actually causing serious performance hits on the server?
I never thought of that - if that is the case then I understand why they have changed the scanner.
But regardless, it has seriously impeded normal gameplay. The more I use it, the more frustrated I become with this very-ill thought out change. I wasn't even aware of how frequently I need to scan when trying to pin down a target. It's absurdly maddening to have to wait 2 seconds between scans. That easily compounds into 30+ seconds to scan down a target in a celestial-rich system; more than enough time for them to notice you and warp to safety.
If you must put a limiter on it, make it on total amount of scans within a time-frame. I.E. 30 scans within 1 minute. You still have your total of 2 seconds per scan, and it adds a limiter function to the scanner encouraging pilots to be careful to preserve scans that you actually need.
EDIT: You could even perhaps make it ship dependent - where recon/scout oriented ships get a bonus to the amount of scans permitted per minute and larger ships are more vulnerable.
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Remus Andromedus
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:39:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Xen Gin Hey what happened to the old EVE saying?
"Mmmm, Carebear Pirate tears are delicious"?
lol
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Johnny Guns
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:08:00 -
[380]
please revert.
it makes a quick narrowing down dscan of a cluster of belts impossible. this is game breaking for a pirate (and you know everyone eventually turns pirate or quits, one or the other).
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B1FF
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Vampire This change is affecting too many aspects of the fundamental gameplay.
It changes the balance between the hunter, and the pray, a balance that has already been skewed in favor of the pray several times during the last couple of updates.
Local + delayed scan = God mode for prey Delayed scan alone = meh
the carebear is growing stronger in eve..
LOL Removing local is viewed as a pirate buff by the carebears. Amusing.
I think you're right though. It's totally a bear buff.
Hunting now takes effort.
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Doctor Dinkeldoofer
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:07:00 -
[382]
Bumping so CCP knows this change is still fine. (except for the notification pop-up issue, of course)
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:19:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Remus Andromedus
Originally by: Xen Gin Hey what happened to the old EVE saying?
"Mmmm, Carebear Pirate tears are delicious"?
lol
Funny thing is, i'm a carebear and i hate this change. Especially since when you narrow a scan it AUTOMATICALLY SCANS. Ruining both timing and slowing you down.
Have fun catching those uber scanners who utilize the "Totally Skillfull" 5-10 second 100% result trick. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:45:00 -
[384]
Pages of this thread in GD: 13 Supports in CSM forum: 966 (more than any thread before) Attention received by CCP: 0
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OOPS iJustBlasted
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Posted - 2009.09.01 18:14:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Feilamya Pages of this thread in GD: 13 Supports in CSM forum: 966 (more than any thread before) Attention received by CCP: 0
The lesson: It's their game and their call. Innernet forum "/signs" don't mean jack, kiddo. Seeing these ragewhines [rightfully] ignored by CCP: Priceless
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eKuivocal
Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.01 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: eKuivocal on 01/09/2009 20:10:31 Yet another pop-up window where I have to wait for EvE to catch up to me. There are already pop-up windows and wait time telling me to wait for:
-jumping -docking -changing ships -jump cloning -any 1 of 100 session change windows
& now! scanning. Gosh! I'm sure sick of 'waiting' for this game. I probably won't have to wait in Jumpgate Evolution :) What happens when your customers get sick of waiting for your game and leave for that CCP?
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.09.01 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: eKuivocal & now! scanning. Gosh! I'm sure sick of 'waiting' for this game. I probably won't have to wait in Jumpgate Evolution :) What happens when your customers get sick of waiting for your game and leave for that CCP?
They could probably reverse the annoying lag-based changes so we foolish morons that like Eve Online could play in peace, free from the whining of apparently ADHD twitch kiddies.
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VoiceInTheDesert
Inroads
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: VoiceInTheDesert on 01/09/2009 21:03:39 Server performance notwithstanding, all this did was further eliminate the ability of pvp pilots to find their targets. Thanks for boosting local as a defense CCP. Now the majority of pilots will have at least 10 seconds before his pursuer can even begin to warp towards his possible location.
I understand why this change was made...and I'm all for server improvement...but this just underscores why local needs serious nerfing.
EDIT: As far as I can tell, the cooldown occurs regardless of if the scan actually happened. IE: if I scan again at 1.9 seconds, I have to wait another full 2 seconds to scan again even though I didn't get any new results. This is a total ***** if it's true, but maybe it's just lag on my end.
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Xen Gin
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: VoiceInTheDesert Edited by: VoiceInTheDesert on 01/09/2009 21:03:39 Server performance notwithstanding, all this did was further eliminate the ability of pvp pilots to find their targets. Thanks for boosting local as a defense CCP. Now the majority of pilots will have at least 10 seconds before his pursuer can even begin to warp towards his possible location.
I understand why this change was made...and I'm all for server improvement...but this just underscores why local needs serious nerfing.
EDIT: As far as I can tell, the cooldown occurs regardless of if the scan actually happened. IE: if I scan again at 1.9 seconds, I have to wait another full 2 seconds to scan again even though I didn't get any new results. This is a total ***** if it's true, but maybe it's just lag on my end.
If that's true, then that would need addressing.
I suppose you could always see the change as, well now you need a Cov-Ops in you gang, kinda thing. Brining people together.
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:33:00 -
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still annoying still not fixed. All aboard the fail train ccp is takin us for another ride! yeehaw!
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