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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.08.18 12:54:00 -
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But does this fix the cowbell triangular circles floating in the giraffe nation of the pineapple people on the pingu bread carpets who ally to the potato kingdom of the alliance of turnips?
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.08.18 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Vector Aeon Okay, this does have the potential to screw up what some people believe to be vital sov mechanics in one way or another.
However, the absolutely earth-shattering step CCP could be taking, merging EVE with a futuristic combat MMO platform (thinking PlanetSide-like here)... well, as someone who has played a lot of EVE and a lot of FPS... this could be the greatest merge of gaming and game genres of all time.
My only gripe is @ the 'console only' bit... those two words guarantee the game will be dead in 5 years. That will need to be fixed, IMO. I can count on one hand how many still-active online shooters have come off consoles with fingers to spare. And, let's face it, an experimental title like this is unlikely to be the next Halo.
Don't crucially integrate EVE's slow-burning environment with the FPS console world of three-month half-lifes and rapid playerbase decay. Instead go with the Half-Life like PC FPS communities that refuse to die. People still play CS and PlanetSide as well as the Unreal games. Because, 10 years from now when PS3 and X360 are dead technology, and people are still upgrading and playing EVE on new boxes (hedging a bet this game will survive 10 more years, forgive me) that FPS integration means absolutely nothing.
I won't lie, I'm absolutely in love with this idea, but let's just tread with caution when dealing with console games and the gamers they produce- while the concept is incredible the playerbases are critical as well to success or failure- and hordes of raging 13-year-old XBL pubbies could do what many others have failed to do- make EVE unplayable.
TL:DR; Awesome potential, but console games burn out way too fast, integrating with slow-mo EVE is asking for instability in both game 'worlds'. Also consoles are fail.
Tottaly agree
Awesome idea. Bold move.
But why the hell consoles only ????
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Chryzopraz
Caldari REPUBLIKA ORLA
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Posted - 2009.08.18 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.
No, it's not. Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC processor, not x86 one. It's not compatible with PCs in any way!
Regards
Chryzopraz
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Chryzopraz
Originally by: Zeba The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.
No, it's not. Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC processor, not x86 one. It's not compatible with PCs in any way!
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Chryzopraz
Well its still directx based so I guess thats what I meant to say. Its still easy to port over as the directx interface handles the hardware. Sorry if I got the details a bit mixed.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Chryzopraz
Originally by: Zeba The 360 is easy for pc programmers to develop on as its just an un-upgradable x86 based machine.
No, it's not. Xbox360 is based on a PowerPC processor, not x86 one. It's not compatible with PCs in any way!
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Chryzopraz
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Argounova
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:07:00 -
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Having only been playing a few months, I humble my opinion to those who have been playing for years. That said, I actually sort of like the idea of an outside input that is, while not totally inaccessible, but somewhat removed from the current EVE game. I like the idea of there being some factors that can't be easily controlled from one game or the other. I think it would be interesting for there to be some "disconnect" between ground forces and space forces, both looking after their own interests, but having to work together, even if begrudgingly, to make some goals easier to achieve. I like the scenario of some mistrust/animosity/disinterest between the forces rather then just having all your corp mates play both. And what better groups for that than PC vs Consolers. Think it could be brilliant. I give CCP props for taking a stab at it.
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Joxias
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:08:00 -
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People need to calm down. You do not have all the specifics but yet you are already jumping off a cliff. CCP is taking a massive gamble and this could if done right change the MMO landscape for the better. Not all console players are 10 yr old mouth breathers as I am sure many of you play them. PC gamers are the gaming minority. I do not own a console but still its a bigger market and sooner or later had to be tapped. I am quiet interested in the mechanics of this actually.
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James Saga
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:15:00 -
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DonĘt get me wrong here but dust look Fing amazing and could really do great things for the eve universe, and expand the player base. But at the moment I have seen no mention a pc version. I have a 360 and enjoy games on it but I only ever buy an FPS on the 360 when there is no pc version (such as halo). So please ccp make a pc version.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:21:00 -
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cant wait till it comes out for my ps3 :)
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Siona Windweaver
Placeholder Holdings
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Siona Windweaver on 18/08/2009 13:23:04 If there's no PC support, it shouldn't "interact directly" with Eve.
Very disappointing news.
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Tar Murk
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ivanna Nuke But does this fix the cowbell triangular circles floating in the giraffe nation of the pineapple people on the pingu bread carpets who ally to the potato kingdom of the alliance of turnips?
Potato People
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ISHKUR MASTER
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:30:00 -
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lololol
purchase game, 1.how do I enable single player option? I just want to fight the npc soldiers, these rl players are too hard, I want the offline version, My internet connection isn't fast enough for fps. 3.So people without financial investment (buy client, log in, affect sov) ie, skill training time, hard labour isk creation aka grind get to be affected by players that just bought and logged in. 4. Only works if the EVE players can nuke the crapper out of the planet from orbital bombardment. Teach these skilless foot soldiers a lesson for interfering in their sov. 5. Big lols - patch day (never patched a console myself)
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:34:00 -
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The Dust 514 trailer: The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:35:00 -
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Next to follow. Eve Online Racing Eve Online Sports Eve Online Quiz Eve Online Treasure hunter Eve Online Dogfight ....
Anyway. If they can have planetside fighting who knows they will include it in stations as well. So the border between Dust and WiS will become really thin. Or even fighting on board of ships.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: fuze Next to follow. Eve Online Racing Eve Online Sports Eve Online Quiz Eve Online Treasure hunter Eve Online Dogfight
Tbh, of those, only EVE Sports would be a new addition… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:37:00 -
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Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban |
Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades
then you live 5 years ago I guess.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades
I saw five of them yesterday. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Marmios
Elite Aeronautic Developer Syndicate Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades
Perfect statement about how wrong people can be about consoles. Guys this isnt SNES anymore. Consoles have multicores, harddisks and high resolution video. Just controller and couch then chair an desktop.
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JitaBum
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades
/facepalm
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is Never seen a patch for a console game... and we all know how Well CCP rolls out bug-less/balanced upgrades
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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Ivanna Nuke
Daralux
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:03:00 -
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Can we skin the Dust chars? I want mine to be all pink with a 22inch dildo as a melee weapon.
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Zey Nadar
Gallente The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zeba Isn't that what I said? A direct influance that can only be made positive by hiring console players to fight against the ones you rival alliance hired to undermine your sov?
The question is, how much of an influence. How much is a planet worth? The same as a POS? More? What is the average ratio of Planets to possible POS placements in a system?
Indeed, this is the crucial question. Fiddling with sovereignty is a sure-fire way of getting Eve players 'play along' though..
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Tsumei Meyren
Creative Cookie Procuring
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:14:00 -
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I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.
There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
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Snasty
Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
This, so this.. ^^^
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GodsWill
Amarr Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.
There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
Fail in my opinion, very big fail.
Well.. They're mercenary grunts. You're a demi god. All you have to do is pay them and give them orders. If the 12-year old is rambling about how cruel his mother is, mute him or hire someone else.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: GodsWill
Originally by: Tsumei Meyren I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.
There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
Fail in my opinion, very big fail.
Well.. They're mercenary grunts. You're a demi god. All you have to do is pay them and give them orders. If the 12-year old is rambling about how cruel his mother is, mute him or hire someone else.
And there you have it.
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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Maculus
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tsumei Meyren There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
Really?
Besides this wont be out for years, depending on how many EON mags they sell giving sneak details on the new venture.
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Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: GodsWill
Originally by: Tsumei Meyren I thoroughly dislike the part where they want EVE players and Dust players to socialize.
There's a reason I play EVE, It's because the audience is a little more mature than that of other mmo's.
Fail in my opinion, very big fail.
Well.. They're mercenary grunts. You're a demi god. All you have to do is pay them and give them orders. If the 12-year old is rambling about how cruel his mother is, mute him or hire someone else.
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Thanasis Veggos
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Posted - 2009.08.18 14:31:00 -
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Hello everyone
This is what i dreamed about all the time for the entire part of my 30 some computergames experience years. The difference is that i would like to see the ability as a capsuleer to take part of that new game. What i would like to see though is a constant and consistand merge of the two worlds and game principles.
CCP.... Hilmar Torfi Nathan and the rest please invest the money we give you to new stuff members. Seek out and find those magicaly blessed progammers that make miracles happen. Hire them and merge this world. Take your time and make it for pc and console the like. I do not mind console people to have eve accesss like others claim to have. If you make it solid and beutifull i see no reasson why every little bit of MMO wet dream would not jumb in to life. This can only happen from a team with vision. You showed us you are up to this task, so are we.
Now fix Eve mail, give us new interface's and make a dedicated hull for each game and not only copy paste hulls from other ships.
AND KEEP NAGLFAR THE ONLY VERTICAL SHIP IN EVE
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